This Student is Ready to Sue Desantis Over Black History

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GET WOKE GO BROKE @VICENews

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How's your bankruptcy going Vice News? LMAO

[@FASBLAQUE]

@@snap392 What ever happens they are still going to have more money than you. Sit down!🙄🤭

[@snap392]

@@FASBLAQUE you sound severely butthurt from my comment. Bahahaa

[@KtotheL]

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." - George Orwell

[@KtotheL]

And that's not going to be allowed in Florida and that's because Florida is a part of the United States of America and that's not going to be happening here MEATBALL. You might get away with it today along with all your other bs but there's definitely a time limit on that meaty 😊

[@sylezjusz]

I'm sure Orwell would wholeheartedly agree that "queer studies" should be an integral part of all people's histories, and it has nothing to do with cramming blatantly political activism into scientific disciplines. Did you even watch the video?

[@unadanni]

@@sylezjusz He probably would, as Orwell didn't fear knowledge. Not teaching about gay people won't make them go away, and they and their history is a part of America, so it should be taught.

[@tylerchapman9234]

Trying to radicalize kids with the BLM movement is ok to be stopped. The dude put American identity and White supremacy in the same category. Biased

[@sylezjusz]

@@unadanni the fact that you don't know a single famous gay is not a reason for injecting political activism which any "queer studies" are, into disciplines that should be driven by scientific rigor. This mockery of history definitely has an Orwellian feel to it.

[@technopriest8686]

"People are trapped in history, and history is trapped in them." - James Baldwin

[@saintrodgersdomino7384]

Well-known Democratic socialist😊

[@kemdreamz4371]

If u can’t learn from history it’s bound to repeat itself 👍🏿

[@sumudsterling]

I like how the students aren’t even a part of the conversation. Like hypothetically (which this isn’t the point) but what if I’m an exchange student or adopted or studying abroad and I want to learn about all of us history… then what? This isn’t the 1950s where everything is sugar coated and cookie cuttered.

[@jdbrady1977]

You have to hate when stuff gets cuttered

[@yoloswaggins1579]

"all of us history"

[@Micksmix256]

History is written by the winners. Nothing has changed and honestly mine as well be the 50s

[@barnsnoble3105]

The entire US student body knows less about US history than in the 1950’s.

[@staylucky4727]

@@Micksmix256 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LClaypool]

Makes for a good college entrance essay topic.

[@monopolizedopamine]

An even better doctoral thesis or dissertation.

[@py_a_thon]

He is set already on that front most likely. The question still remains: "Who should control pre18 education? And how, when, where, why? I default to the democracy of parents. That is the only way I can slightly make sense of state ran education. I have no right to control the will of adults and their children.

[@georget.5048]

@@py_a_thon parents aren't experts. parents are the ones who would delete evolution, sex ed, climate change, and "woke" things like african studies from the curriculum. protecting the privelage of experts in education and the respective subjects they teach to bring up new skilled and learned individuals is crucial if we don't want every american to be a florida man robbing the local mcdonalds of 1000 pounds of mayo.

[@juz882010]

college? LOL

[@Ri57490]

​@@juz882010 What's 'LOL' about that?

[@RudieObias]

News flash: Black History IS American History

[@shirayuri4345]

White man really trying to cover up the mass genocide of Native Americans. America was made by slaves, blood and death of the Africans and natives.

[@alexbrown200]

Therefore so is Chinese it's not exactly a huge revelation come on

[@FASBLAQUE]

Yes, it is, but told by white folks.

[@dreadedkitty980]

​@@alexbrown200 yet the Republicans are blocking history. Is the point.

[@mostlysunny582]

@@alexbrown200 then why should we have a black history month? where's the Chinese history month?

[@SolitudeStarer]

As a black man living in FL, my heart breaks for the youth that actually want to learn our history and have had that opportunity taken from them. Keep up the fight young man, because one day your generation will be leading the future.

[@schnarfschnarf5886]

KZbin Thomas Sowell.. Please the man is a genius and it's bought or sold

[@freedomsands8891]

Haha dude don't even feel bad about that. Why would any sane parent trust and leave it 100% to school to teach their kids history? Even if the lesson plans didnt follow a narrative, some teachers are biased af and traumatized and pass on that trauma to their students. As a parent I would never trust schools to teach my kids history, math and English yeah no problem but not history.

[@py_a_thon]

I'll be slightly extroverted for once. (I usually guard myself with introversion). I kinda wish my school had waited a few years to teach me some of the history I was *forced* to learn. (Assuming I wanted good grades) The past was violent and evil in so many ways I would prefer to forget, and then have the alternate memory of learning about it at an older point in time. Maybe senior year or college. I did not need to see Auschwitz footage in 8th grade or see people attacked for protesting, and learn about how evil people can be while the only comfort available was weed and druqs. I sought out comfort, and I had no help. You catch my drift? I wish I had been taught maths better tbh.

[@anthonydressler8698]

The governor in Florida is great

[@phatmanjake4336]

@@anthonydressler8698 liar

[@Chamelionroses]

Do it...that would be an interesting court case. Sounds like the movie on court case of science on evolution , and banned books. Well good luck to bring to the supreme court.

[@bfattori01]

If the supreme court ruled against science and were for banning books (which we know 6 of the nine are exactly that way) then the court would have zero legitimacy and yet another constitutional crisis would occur. Republicans appear to be set on writing Hitler's new history where whites rule the US.

[@skontheroad]

It's nice that you recall that there was a movie on the court case about the science of evolution. But, apart from knowing the name, do you know that it was a very famous book? Before it was a movie??? Did they not teach that in school? And if not, what did they replace it with?

[@Chamelionroses]

​@@skontheroad Inherit the Wind. Yes. 😊

[@Chamelionroses]

Depends on the schools and how things are done world wide. Replace what exactly? Is it like the replacement conspiracy where no one really gets really replaced though already exists as human beings?

[@skontheroad]

@@Chamelionroses Um, no. I was just asking what the school replaced the book with. If you didn't read it in school--as it is a very important play to read and discuss, not only from a literary perspective--what did the school replace it with on the curriculum? That's all I was asking. Not that deep...

[@RiVer-Parish]

This country as a whole doesn't want the truth being taught or known.

[@shepardvasnormandy]

It's not a problem inherent to the US, but it sets a precedent for the rest of the world to justify such actions.

[@barleyhopps]

No one wants the truth, which is why no one reads the 1611KJV Bible. It is nothing new

[@aliensyndrome4280]

this is a distraction. most Americans don't even realize the US currency lost over 80% of it's value. Powers to Be just puts this nonsense like this video/subject as a distraction

[@FASBLAQUE]

@@aliensyndrome4280 Why don't you look at the reasons why it fell. Everything effects everything. Of course, your little mind can't comprehend that.

[@aliensyndrome4280]

@@FASBLAQUE if you had commonsense you'd realize I'm 100% correct

[@danadane827]

I'm a Floridian. I love my state. I look at my nieborhood (redlined), my mother went to segregated schools, and my next door neighbor is 102. Black history/ American history is all around us. We need to have open discussions with the elders. They are a living witness of our history. These politicians probably have black and brown people right in their homes taking care of the children. Teach every child about American history.

[@HOG-cn8zd]

We need Native American, Asian, South American history courses as well.

[@basednoamchomsky]

We had those in HS 15 years ago and they will be gone next.

[@YungTsundere]

Whataboutism

[@SinSeared]

That’s fine but that’s not the conversation at hand, concerning this particular video. Please remain focused on the topic at hand.

[@BabbleCacophony]

​@@YungTsundere this was a "what about ism?" Totally thought this was a supportive comment that was suggesting more history courses.

[@seblasian]

@@YungTsundere Deflecting by accusing other people of deflection

[@cherubfemme]

Goodness. Even I learnt about Malcolm X and the Civil Rights Movement at my school over here in Australia. Now they’re taking it away over in the States? It makes no sense

[@fromSpringfield]

That's because they aren't.

[@mattbarkers9167]

*learned

[@melissab8871]

They aren’t

[@blakegammon1023]

Aussie i promise you no schools over here are taking it away I always went to conservative schools and I learned all of black history and then some from them, no one is taking it away

[@markbisson6166]

Did you also learn that he was an antisemitic POS?

[@H0lland0ates79]

I’ll take it a step further, exactly how much does anyone get taught about Native American history? The act of suppression by the people in power in this country over people of color goes far beyond just this issue. But a good story and video by Vice.

[@asli9812]

Yes! Thank you!! People seem to forget that they were murdered and raped to the point of near extinction

[@H0lland0ates79]

@@asli9812 yeah I have Native American ancestry, as well as Hawaiian who are to this day still being screwed over by the US government

[@asli9812]

@@H0lland0ates79 I feel for the indigenous people of this country, as well as the rest of this continent, South America, and Australia.

[@YungTsundere]

Whataboutism.

[@meiteiluwang4550]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stretch1807]

It is important for people from all racial and ethnic backgrounds to understand and appreciate their own cultural history, as well as the histories and cultures of others. Multiculturalism typically emphasizes the value of studying and learning from various cultures, promoting empathy and understanding among diverse groups. While some individuals may prioritize learning about their own cultural history for personal reasons, such as identity or empowerment, it is essential to avoid generalizing the interests and attitudes of a particular racial or ethnic group. A focus on one's own history does not necessarily imply a lack of interest in other cultures or a lack of support for multiculturalism. The diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) movement aims to create a more inclusive and equitable society by addressing systemic barriers faced by marginalized communities. It does not advocate for the exclusion or silencing of majority groups or other minority groups, but rather seeks to uplift all individuals and create a more understanding, respectful, and inclusive environment. The issue of racial and cultural identity is complex and influenced by various factors, such as historical context, societal norms, and individual values. It is important to recognize and appreciate the diversity within racial and ethnic groups and avoid oversimplifying or stereotyping their experiences and perspectives. By fostering understanding, respect, and collaboration among individuals from different backgrounds, we can work towards creating a more inclusive society.

[@paulcooverjr.6947]

Bullshit, go to a library.

[@wd89601]

Lol I feel like this was wrote by gpt , but I agree with what it says none the less 😂

[@jameson3500]

There is literally no reason for whites to be learning African studies. Enough of. I am a white man, I have my own culture and history, my ancestors created a country for ME. I don't care about Africa, blacks contributed NOTHING, it's all designed to dumb us down.

[@Tri.dawg1]

@@wd89601 you can tell you have no college experience cuz they teach you that when you have a business discussion

[@TheOneAboveAll1369]

Yea but don't ask for reparations . If African Americans are due payment for slavery and subjugation, what about Native Americans, who lost a whole continent? What about Mexican-Americans, who were deprived by the Mexican-American war of the right to migrate into half their former country? Japanese Americans, interned during World War II. Mexican Americans Japanese Americans native americans you don't hear them complaining crying wanting reparations ..those activists and politicians wanting reparations you have opened a Pandora's box, something that causes a lot of problems to appear that did not exist

[@DTA-me3kv]

The world is losing its minds.

[@swaggitypigfig8413]

The world isn’t but a bot like you surely is 😂 richtickle: DTA 4321 is literally a computer run account.

[@richttickle]

@@swaggitypigfig8413 calling everyone a bot is the most bot thing ever

[@godsstrongestschizo]

Plural minds yeah. You’re a real bright one, aren’t you?

[@JXC25]

@@swaggitypigfig8413 "like you surely is".

[@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists]

you misspelled U S A 😂🤣

[@jeffersonwright6249]

Black History IS American History. Truest thing ever said!

[@Thowe]

@Ann Taylor Asian history isn't as prominent in America nor is it under threat by any group. Stop being racist

[@Rockstarmade224]

@Ann Taylor that’s Bc they aren’t erasing it

[@internetuser881]

​@@AnnTaylor-em3cgThey are certainly events, such as, The "Asian"Japanese-Pacific Incarcernation Camps-- Through the Executive Order 9066 by President Franklin D. Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor. From 1942 to 1945, it was the policy of the U.S. government that people of Japanese descent, including U.S. citizens, would be incarcerated In Isolated camps-- that today the education system have longly been teaching students the good and the ugly of American History. Until now, some Federal officials like DeSantis' believes Elementary, Middle and High School students shouldn't learn about the development pieces of American History In which completes the overall view of reality. The Important pieces that explains *How* influencial from all parties became that made life for what it is today... A question that students will eventually ask Why are people like this... my question for you is... who do you think is more suitable to answer? SUBJECTIVE OR OBJECTIVE? Teacher or parent?. Side mote; In other words; DeSantis would rather have students learn a limited-portion off the good american side of history like; Presidents Roosevelt, and ripped chapters off the history book about the 100th battalion Infrantry Division and accomplishment that shaped the ww2 era eventhough their families were Incarcerated by their own government. Which I believe it is problematic to put kids inside a bubble knowing full-well how the world works, and how people are. In Cities and towns of districts from public schools and communities we know they are different level of class-Income. At this point, I see the removal of a context In education and not a single piece of adjustment that can help solve the "Problem" they are discussing. It rather seems DeSantis, and Company wants to take advantage of the general public through Social Behavior and Economics-- Because these two combinations creates a new wave of generations that are going to break-easily and blindfolded to the truth of others. The new generation are going to soon walk into the real world; Whether at a job, or public areas without a conscious of thought to how to financially or physically react to these changes of legislations, Personal or Social discrimination because In this rethoretical aspect-- History repeats itself. They are basically putting the new generations to an uncertain situation where opportunities within a system and their expectations will highly unmatch. Unfortunely, I believe the system is been adjust it as we write-- to help high profiles within the Government and Third party associations in order to maintain their power, and make profit out of the future generations awaits to come. Out of context;These Federal Officials have in the past advocate against higher education of College free-tuition for students who are struggling with debts or whatnot. Which is quite strange because these students typically come from low income-communities... where he now wants certain books to ban from teaching.

[@EJ-bq1nu]

Stop claiming "America". We are so much greater than that made up genocidal country.

[@Sarappreciates]

In a twist of irony, DeSantis is unintentionally making black AND queer history more important than ever. Good job bringing attention to the topics that need it most, Ron.

[@akirebara]

Streisand effect in full force.

[@emilie658]

Knowing about your roots and the history they are embedded in,is important for a deep understanding of society,of yourself,about politics and sometimes even global conditions and developpments. Sometimes history hurt, sometimes you might feel ashamed or frightend ,but in the end your knowledge makes you aware or WOKE in future, more conciousness gave me a lot of security throughout my life, and feeling woke never seemed negative to mer.Regards from Germany, our history is nothing I can be proud of, but it makes me happy that I have had the possibility to learn and inform myself.

[@fayekalantzis4523]

Your history is long thousands of years long and only a very short part of your history wasn't marked You have a beautiful language food culture architecture commitment to saving the planet ,on the forefront of technology , an education system that confronts it past, learns from it and connects closely with Israel in trade and guides the EU in a positive way You are not defined by a short period in history

[@carlosocatavious3363]

So your r saying German history is just limited to Nazis?

[@emilie658]

@@carlosocatavious3363 Of course not!Like I don´t think, that American history is limited to slavery,the genocid of the first nation or crimes of war ,that are negociated.

[@carlosocatavious3363]

@@emilie658 but you said German history is nothing you can be proud of, why is that?

[@emilie658]

@@carlosocatavious3363 Hiho, I want to answer your question , but it might sound weird to you. I´m not proud to have a light skin. I´m not proud to be a protestant woman, I´m not proud to be German. To start with the easier part, it´s difficult for me to be proud of something you´re born into, I would prefer to say happy or glad. If I break my honest reason down, "race" is a construct to me which for me is not relevant or exsisting. Religion doesn´t make any sense to me, I don´t believe in God or any other form of religion, nationalities are a construct as well, Some thing you can perfectly study looking at the history of the African continent. Pride, to me, includes a form of being better,being special, being above. Pride seperates and unites at the same time. I,we,us our against you ,they,their,them. This can quickly become a competion , I admid sometimes positive (sport,games), But history convinced me, that mostly this pride of being ..... went terribly wrong. Often this type of identification was the base for conflicts,fights and war. Hope your question is answered. Some facts at the end. Retired hospize nurse (63) , married, four grown up boys and five grandchildren. Living quiet and satisfied in a very rural part with two dogs. Just average.

[@tomford1376]

Such an awesome young person. Go, Elijah! You rule!

[@ronchabot3449]

How can tell someone that they can't learn about their history that boggles my mind

[@a.d.4536]

Because its a lie. They are pushing blksupremacy and woke garbage as history.

[@Andrina-fl9ef]

Apparently, they can't.learn about it by going to their library or research online.

[@phatmanjake4336]

@@Andrina-fl9ef you missing the point

[@TheVelvetLoungeLife]

GOOD 👍🏽🎉 This is why I have hope for the future even though the baby boomer generation has lost their ever loving last bit of good mind sometimes. Not all baby boomers but too many of them. The younger generations are not taking that bull crap and they're not going to have their futures destroyed by greedy old money-mongers, and wanting to go backward to live bad history wannabe tyrants. They want the real deal, the real story, a real chance, the real truth and a cleaner future which is what they deserve. BRAVO 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🎉🎉🎉

[@starstuff5371]

Thank you for saying that not all of us boomers have lost our minds! 🤣 I'm one of those whose mind is fully intact, and I stand with and support this younger generation fighting for justice... social, racial, economic, and climate justice, and human rights for all. 🫡 ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿

[@supnerd3852]

Just shut up whatever you say sounds dumb this generation is dumber than anything that could have ever come and I wish I was apart of this generation

[@jstn616]

Shoutout lil bro. Do big things

[@email5023]

....and avoid getting shot.

[@swaggitypigfig8413]

@@email5023 you wanna calm down?

[@maddbabbleralways9103]

I don't have much but I am tired of southern children getting an absolutely awful education. I'm old but I raised alot of kids mine related and some strays because they were to precious to waste. The only good thing about this insanity is the new generation knows there enemy and will overcome. Gave up on current power and now I am looking to see who will be the future. I helped 12 kid's get there diplomas. If I can help this young man or other future people I am in. You note I never referred to race. It only matters when monster's like de Satan try to use it for a weapon.Bless you and yours. I am very proud of you. Like I said I'm old and poor but would be proud to throw a few dollar's at a truly just cause. All children should be loved and assisted by all adults g

[@havik7069]

The student said it best towards the beginning, black history is American history. Meaning that all of it should be put into one history course!

[@CC-vw1cs]

So proud of these kids for taking action, it should not have come to this, but strength is tested in dark times.

[@mostlysunny582]

LOL they have no clue what they're doing.

[@lickmyloafbruh]

⁠@@mostlysunny582At least they’re doing something positive

[@mostlysunny582]

@@lickmyloafbruh positive in a sense that they want to take action in societal issues, but clueless on this particular issue. Desantis is trying to teach them real history. Not a revisionist history.

[@lickmyloafbruh]

@@mostlysunny582 Black History IS real history….? It’s American history

[@unfathomablyunfathomable]

@@mostlysunny582 Desantis is trying to limit the kids ability to learn about their past, and about black history (which is real history, big shocker).

[@oranjmusemeyer968]

They can sue, but when I was last in a classroom, the state has the right to select curriculum to be taught to students. There are laws on number of minutes PE is taught, (usually by the week) and core curriculum is divided into how the school district sees fit. Good luck! There should also be a class on Native American history!

[@swax7124]

aND ASIAN HISTORY AND EUROPEAN HISTORY. YOU MAKE WHITE HISTORY WORTHLESS WITH JUST BLACK HISTORY. personally i view it as racist.

[@derpphil5400]

@@jrambo7495 ?? This kid just wants to take an ELECTIVE advanced placement class that teaches more about African American history he is interested in. Extra applicable knowledge that should really just be considered critical American history from what I learned in the class later in college. Also what's being asked for in this video isn't more, but something they already had which was removed by Florida Governor De Santis. Why are you so dishonest?

[@phatmanjake4336]

@@jrambo7495 found the racist

[@vladtepes97]

@@jrambo7495 that's what he's suing the florida governor for. you're right, they've already taken everything, and they're still not satiated. but people, like this fine young man, are fighting back and trying to take back from them what belongs to everyone, like history.

[@jrambo7495]

THEY'LL ALWAYS WANT MORE AND MORE AND MORE ...... Everyone owes them something and they always want free stuff. THE "LADY" THAT WENT TO TARGET AND DEMANDED REPARATIONS FROM TARGET!! 🤣🤣 You can't make this crap up!! BLUE ASH, Ohio: Newly released bodycam video shows the arrest of a “belligerent” woman who allegedly told Target employees they should give her more than $1,000 worth of items for free because she deserved reparations. The reported incident happened in October 2022 at a Target store in Blue Ash, Ohio. According to court documents, 37-year-old Karen Ivery became “belligerent” and “totally unruly” when she did not have enough money to pay for the merchandise that had been scanned, totaling $1,051, a cashier told police. The cashier flagged a supervisor, who told police Ivery asked that Target give her “reparations” while going on a spiel about how she was owed the items, an officer wrote in court documents.

[@Turquoise4eva]

DeSantis quoted “This course on Black history, what's one of the lessons about? Queer theory. Now who would say that an important part of Black history is queer theory?'' 🤔I too do not agree with that having to do anything with African American Studies but I'm sure the majority of Floridians have no problem with removing that from the curriculum. He also has a problem with (BLM) Black Lives Matter which I believe is a part of African American Studies. The study will also include education on white supremacy which he says violates legislation dubbed the Stop WOKE Act he signed last year. This right here In my opinion is what leads me to believe, a certain group of elites who are backing him up do not want this taught to our young. Remember when blacks were not allowed to go to school, nor allowed to read? A lack of education is so that they may continue to keep us ''in check''.

[@BabbleCacophony]

the most iconic figure in the queer rights movement was Marsha P. Johnson, a black trans woman. Queer history is black history.

[@Turquoise4eva]

@@BabbleCacophony 😑No its not. Queer History is in its own category apart from Black History. Lets be honest. White nor Asians elites and especially the older generation in America and outside would never accept Queer Studies in their children's curriculum in 2023. The reason being is because a person's sexual preference or gender of choice has nothing to do with that country's centuries and even years of its people fighting to survive wars, epidemics, government take overs, natural disasters etc. You think our people were being *ung because they were queer? They were whipped and chopped because they were queer? Women and young children were *aped because they were queer? You honestly believe centuries of our people suffering and fighting just to be treated as equals was because they were queer? It brings tears to my eyes till this day remembering the gruesome picture of Emmett Till. DO NOT bring LIES here about Queer History being Black History. Our Black Children were not being murdered and buried in over MILLIONS of mass graves because the were queer! U and some of the ppl in this country have gone mad! The disrespect U have towards those who died for black rights and the innocent is INFURIATING!😡

[@ladymondegreen]

Everyone in the state of Florida needs to sue DeSantis. That would be amazing and deserved.

[@haroldcampos9661]

won't be long before he's in a room full of guns....

[@siyar-mc1xz]

And turn it into NYC and Chicago? No thanks.

[@jessieharringtonlaguna4023]

@@siyar-mc1xz these liberals are crazy lol we love how Florida is

[@siyar-mc1xz]

@@jessieharringtonlaguna4023 Remember how they fled their cities during Covid to spend their holidays in Florida? While simultaneously claiming that Floridians were dying in masses due to the Governor's handling of the situation.

[@josephparker5678]

I'm black born and raised in south Florida and he should become president best governor

[@romainbourque]

I'm a Canadian historian and it's just a shame what politicians in your country are doing. my history Prof in university happen to American and a very well known professor even at other universities, played football at U of Michigan during his school days. and we had substantial material on that part of AMERICAN history. better not let the gop gain power cause they'll never give it up again.

[@asli9812]

Canadian schools also sugar coat about the indigenous genocide wdym

[@Student0Toucher]

Lol dude as if Canada isn’t the same with Native Americans😂 Native Americans in Canada continue to be oppressed and fight for their history while white Canadians go after American social issues… Lol I pray for my Native brothers up North.

[@lindystanway8110]

​@@asli9812 Oh balderdash.

[@nvrndingsmmr]

​@Yea Okay foo "Oh yeah? But your country does bad things too!" Isn't helpful or constructive. The dude is totally right lol. Can't you just engage with what they said instead of feeling like you have to defend what, America's dignity? What dignity? Politicians are literally trying to limit and censor education that is particularly empowering for marginalized people. These conservative leaders aren't even trying to hide how objectively evil they are lol.

[@Who_Cares05]

@@Student0Toucher yea but in Canada we educate ourselves about what happened and the government gives money to help young children to grow up

[@apexjailor9349]

If only there were a subject that wasn’t as narrow as white history or black history, but rather focused on all aspects of the past for a broad and nuanced understanding. I’d call such a subject something like „history“.

[@huggymchug]

AP courses are supplemental and go into depth on a single subject, they're meant to be similar to college classes

[@apexjailor9349]

@@huggymchug but it’s a subject you can’t really look at in isolation. I’d consider something to dive into more like an event, a war, or even a nation in a certain period. Studying a specific race is just weird… the history of black people is obviously very intertwined with the history of everyone else in the US, and I don’t really see the benefit academically of separating it.

[@parismcknight8290]

@@apexjailor9349 You must not be aware that you can GRADUATE with a degree in African American studies, even earning a doctorate degree in it (audible “wow”). I’ll use your suggestion of looking at specific wars as an example. Let’s take a look at the civil war and how it is typically covered in FL classrooms. Even though the war was predominantly started because of slavery rarely do we ever talk about the issues, hardships, and struggles of enslaved and freed African Americans during that time(p.s. that is called an Afrocentric perspective, which I learned in my AA class). Before making comments on issues that you probably are uninformed on, I would consider doing personal research or better yet maybe even taking an AA class at your local institution.

[@apexjailor9349]

@@parismcknight8290 it would be great to take a healthy view of things. Not including the suffering of black people and the impact of slavery in study of the civil war is a great failure. I don’t think that changes what I’m saying though, in that it’s still not academically valuable to only study the experience of one race in my view.

[@marcellusbivens754]

I don't the queer theory and feminism should be included in black history. That's like having a math class then tossing in a potato salad with raisins.

[@jesuscastellom7432]

No matter what happens in this country we will continue to talk about it and keep teaching it to our youth. I remember being in elementary school in Topeka, KS and being able to look out my classroom window and being able to see the school Linda Brown attended before she won her case in Brown v. Board of education. It was powerful to be able to experience that as a child.

[@haroldcampos9661]

american history is "remember who was boss once"

[@GearsinMotionGraphics]

If you don't know your past you don't know your future upon where you're going!!!🕛One's Foundation is built upon how they build their future🔄🕛🪞

[@py_a_thon]

This is why public libraries are valuable. Including some moral and ethical yarrr.... My favorite story from perhaps the entirety of american history is Robert Smalls. He stole a confederate boat, rescued a bunch of slaves and his family and then sailed to a Union occupied space and surrendered while requesting amnesty. He delivered a gunship on a silver platter. So fucking awesome. Robert Smalls. Perhaps the first black american pirate. Banning that is stupid. However, teaching socialism based CRT is going to ruffle some feathers. Also, I really dont care. I just wish they would tone down the brutality of history in some ways, until people know how to think for themselves. Math, philosophy, language and logic is often far more important in the formative years than the past you cannot do anything about. Or atleast that is my opinion.

[@bjdefilippo447]

I agree that banning coverage of Smalls is ridiculous. However, it's possible that you have a misconception about CRT. I agree that teaching it in high school might ruffle some feathers, but that's because it's a theory class taught in law school. Nobody it teaching it anywhere else, because it wouldn't make sense to.

[@py_a_thon]

@@bjdefilippo447 There is a very distinct possibility that I know more about Critical Theory, Post Modernism and Critical Race Theory, than you assume I know.

[@thepredhulkchronicles5934]

I disagree with the toning down of history. Sugarcoating what happened in the past often leads to idealistic portrayals of a utopian past in what was in reality a poverty-stricken and unbalanced past.

[@unfathomablyunfathomable]

Learning about the past is important because you have to look at the past to see society's mistakes and tragedies, and also the things we achieved. What worked and what didn't. To not repeat those mistakes or horrible actions again.

[@py_a_thon]

@@unfathomablyunfathomable I am not saying that history is unimportant. I am suggesting that it is more valuable and less harmful when taught at proper points within a curriculum. When those points and moments are? I honestly don't know. That is a social issue for others to consider. I mean, I don't think a 1st grade class should see Auschwitz footage for example.

[@Hollergirlohio]

If we forget our history we are doomed to repeat it. So important to know from beginning to current.

[@mattbarkers9167]

He should sue Biden

[@erindaniel4053]

Primarily, other cultures learn about their history by visiting their country of origin. Their parents, grand parents teach their true history. We as African Americans only go back as far as slavery. We don’t even know which tribes in Africa we descended from, or even care to investigate. While, I do think this topic should be taught in schools, and have taken an AP AA studies course, there’s a bigger issue here. The public/private school agenda is not for you to become more aware or intelligent. It is for you to be more compliant and obedient and ready for the work force. I would encourage parents who claim that they value their history this much to do their own research and actually VISIT Africa and find out where they came from. Schools will NOT teach you this. Sorry

[@rafaelmoreno9597]

I pray that they are successful n this suit!

[@rociojuarez5489]

You know you can study about other cultures OUTSIDE of school. 🙄 I didn’t learn about Mexican history in school. 😂

[@Axiohm000]

Bingo

[@Gr-kk8vd]

You're absolutely daft because you definitely did learn and touch upon Mexican history. Where tf do you think Texas came from?

[@thepredhulkchronicles5934]

You didn’t learn about the Mexican-American War started by President Polk and the subsequent Mexican cession? Much of Mexican history is in some way tied to US history with stuff like the Monroe Doctrine, Roosevelt Corollary, the Gadsden Purchase, and the Zimmerman Telegram. This argument is kind of nullified regardless since the College Board also provides AP European History and AP World History courses, so yes in schools we do learn about all country’s histories.

[@rohitmishra670]

Why not make that subject elective. Let people who want to learn it take it as a module.

[@dgever1]

If the democratic county commissioner who teaches black history at Florida A&M and acknowledges that DeSantis is a racist supports the ban because of the content of the curriculum I am not sure this is really about banning black history. It sounds like people who oppose this curriculum are opposed to the queer studies element. Why not repot on that?

[@lizbarrett3248]

If the class isn’t teaching the truth it’s already been taken away.

[@HerAeolianHarp]

Way to go! Keep up the fight. This ignorance must be stopped.

[@deusvult8544]

“I always like…wanted to learn about myself” What an eloquent, intellectual young man.

[@calebhopkins7382]

There's gotta be graph somewhere that shows people with lower quality education are more likely to have a defensive reaction to the quality of their education getting called into question. Not sure how that negative feedback loop can be broken.

[@johnhardy7764]

There’s gotta be a graph somewhere that shows people who have been privileged have a defensive reaction when others just want EQUALITY!! 😊

[@ElonEpstein]

This is the new cancel culture

[@chicho5359]

Teach the kids how to do math first please

[@thepredhulkchronicles5934]

Yes because math is definitely not being taught in schools anymore 🙄

[@arseniipianykh8425]

it is important to understand why and not listen to woke trash such as the new vice

[@yuriajones]

Here's an interesting observation: both DeSantis and Prof Bill Proctor (who supports DeSantis) keep referring to this issue as Black HISTORY or African American HISTORY. However, the AP course in question is actually an "African American Studies" course. This connotes a much wider scope than just plain ole history. Of course it includes history, but I'm sure they expect to examine contemporary ideas in Black culture, and to my mind, Queerness, Reparations and BLM could easily fall under that scope. Furthermore, DeSantis makes specific mention of Black Queer Theory (as does Prof Proctor, who says "it is not the focus on queerness") as one of his reasons for disallowing the AP course, and the governor even suggests that including the topic must mean "that is someone pushing an agenda on our kids." But unless the Black Queer Theory section is inordinately long when compared with the other topics, how can one section among 100 be seen as 'an agenda'??

[@andreasnrby4639]

I'm not american but i really fail to understand how querness has anything to do with black history. Just seems kinda weird. I think that the slaves chained to the floorboards on slaveships had bigger worries than what gender they felt like on a given day.

[@yuriajones]

@@andreasnrby4639 I'm not American either, but would you agree that Black history is inextricably linked with the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s? Well, many activists from that era weren't only fighting for equal rights for Black and Brown people. Many of them were fighting for equal rights for queer people as well, in part because they were queer. To name a few, James Baldwin and Bayard Rustin were both gay. Langston Hughes might identify as asexual if he were alive today, and Pauli Murray would identify as transgender. In the fight for civil rights, the struggles of queer folks, people of color and women will always be closely linked. That's why it's important to explore the concept of 'intersectionality', which is another stated reason for DeSantis' denial of the AP course.

[@princessyarkor730]

It about BLACK queerness which makes it a “black concept” for them to study. Like the og commenter said it’s not only about history. Also black and or African American history doesn’t start at the beginning of the slave trade

[@avalonwarriormage35]

​@@andreasnrby4639perhaps you not understanding why Black Queerness is an important topic under the African American Studies program is precisely the reason it needs to be included, to learn is to understand.

[@andreasnrby4639]

@@avalonwarriormage35 There is a big difference between teaching the fact that many different groups benefitted from the civil rights movement and then specifically teaching about one small and very specific one of these groups.

[@hughjaass3787]

Native American History, Black, & Hispanic History IS AMERICAN HISTORY NO MATTER WHAT DICTATOR IS IN POWER!!!🖕🖕🖕🖕

[@thirdclasshero1148]

Ron desantis trying to act like hes not a racist is roughly as see through as a toddler with his mouth stuffed full of cookies claiming hes never seen a baked good in his life.

[@siyar-mc1xz]

Why because he does not want bs and propaganda taught with tax payer money?

[@luhso7552]

​​@@siyar-mc1xz Absolutely right. They should go back to teaching the non-propaganda that I learned in history class; like the "war between the states" which totally had "nothing to do with slavery". I'm glad I finished school before all this "propaganda" was taught to me at taxpayer expense.

[@EJ-bq1nu]

​@@siyar-mc1xz desantis said that America was never colonized 😂 he's a yt supremacist

[@siyar-mc1xz]

@@EJ-bq1nu Source: Trust me bro. Can you name an area that wasn't colonized by humans?

[@EJ-bq1nu]

@@siyar-mc1xz I can name a million locations where humans have migrated without the use of mass genocide and the mass extinction of millions of plant and animal species for profit but America isn't one of them 😂

[@daintycaked]

the homophobe dude not realizing that black people can be queer.

[@johnsmith-mi2uc]

" material is inaccurate or not important enough to teach " my guy it is literally their history.

[@RobBingham]

What does “queer theory” or any theory have to do with history? History is something that has been documented.

[@drjordan5706]

@@RobBingham Queer history has been documented since it's pretty recent

[@RobBingham]

But it’s listed as queer theory….not queer history. And regardless, what does that have to do with AA history?

[@drjordan5706]

@@RobBingham black people can be queer dude

[@RobBingham]

@@drjordan5706 Right….but what does that have to do with a history class? They can also be creationists, so can we have a course on creationism as well? Again, theory is not history.

[@mikehoncho5389]

Instead of suing descant is he should sue the whoever put the queer in the program.

[@Andrina-fl9ef]

😂

[@LadyK007]

Let College Board edit the curriculum!!

[@arjunchatterjee875]

they're gonna get him back for killing the guacamole

[@Paolagarcia-hc2pz]

i really wanted to take this class but i’m going to be a senior next year i doubt i’ll be able to ever take this course it seems very interesting and i want to learn more about black americans than the basic stuff that is taught. we’re taught like 3% of many historic events that have happened

[@yoyonaught]

Not all kids are smart. This is a well known fact.

[@asleepawake3645]

Anyone who sues desantis is a good person.

[@1fearnoman1]

I need more of this reporter, love the documentary, loved seeing black-beauty

[@mmor7380]

Black history is American history, doesn't need to have a separate class, just teach history, why divide history? everything ia divide now

[@genkai7278]

The elites don't want Americans of all backgrounds and races to unite because that would be a threat to the uber wealthy capitalist class

[@nonyabizness.original]

black history formally exists because without it, the history of black americans would be non-existent. we know that because before 'black history' became a month, schools taught exactly nothing about american black history. now kids learn the same narrow, well-worn, rewritten, sanitized history of a couple black americans. all history is mythology, traditionally written about and by the victors. no one will be learning about your life or mine in 100 years. american history as recorded and traditionally taught covers maybe 0.0001% of the people who have created and molded and contributed to our society as it is today. those few history creators never thought for one moment to write the untold stories of the millions of ravaged black slaves into our history. and as we see today, they ~still~ are striving to silence those stories.

[@wehrmeister]

The issue that I understand with the black studies in Florida is that many unrelated agendas are being thrown in that are unrelated to black studies. I don't think there would be an issue if the class was strictly black studies, without the other agendas. I knew this reporter was full of shite when she said that Desantis stated that the topic was "unimportant". Exactly where did he say that? Just like the "don't say gay" bill, where in that law was the word "gay" used? Impossible to talk to leftists, want to compare apples and oranges. Education in this country as it is now is screwed, we're just going to keep churning out woke potato heads who can't read or do math or understand science, and are going to be mad because they don't have the skills for real jobs.

[@basednoamchomsky]

The agenda to read

[@samshepperrd]

The distinction has to be made between banning books from the shelves of book stores, banning books from the shelves of libraries and banning books from the class curriculum.

[@yuriajones]

Agreed.

[@abrealgaming5649]

The smile that lit up across my face when I saw all those beautiful black people was immense. 😊

[@JmasTheKilla215]

This video is the reason they removed the dislike button!

[@swaggitypigfig8413]

They removed the dislike button years ago chump. This video came out today.

[@JmasTheKilla215]

@@swaggitypigfig8413 your so stunning and brave

[@InFamou5Killer]

The ministry of truth says black history is a big no no

[@ThePixel-Man]

I think the students are conflating history with political view point. The course in it if itself was not challenged but rather the specific curriculum. Look at the curriculum itself not the generalized topics that vice is highlighting. The issue again is the specific of the curriculum to generalize the argument as a blanket rejection of black history is a false statement.

[@Neake22]

That is true. They're using a black history curriculum as a way to shoe horn in lgbtq and other agendas.

[@venavanmil2761]

The problem is that history and politics are deeply intertwined. If you get rid of talking about BLM, you have to remove a long history of racialized violence stretching back to the Jim Crow Era, which was started in the Reconstruction Era, which was due to the Civil War, which was caused by slavery. You can't remove the parts of history that suit your political viewpoint because then you would have to remove it all.

[@Anne--Marie]

DO IT!

[@JohmathanBSwift]

I'm ready to sue over my Irish history.

[@derpphil5400]

Sure, Irish American history is American history. Do you have a specific grievance?

[@carolina0120]

Yea, Vice is definitely one-sided 🙄

[@stacielle3627]

You’re still watching though aren’t you? Thirsty heaux.

[@davegalloway4160]

Vice should do a series exploring why 55 of Chicago area schools report no proficiency in math or reading!

[@RobBingham]

Doesn’t support their narrative

[@RudeNico]

Doesn’t support their narrative and if they did , it would be a victim stand point

[@MEADiaz]

Yes, that would be a good one, to show how the lack of funds is affecting it

[@EJ-bq1nu]

Because black kids don't aspire to grow up and be mindless wage slaves to white corporations like you do 😂 give them education that activates their sense of community and identity and they will learn.

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

Better to have top many books, and challenge them, then to have too little due to banning and everyone loses.

[@skontheroad]

To put the BLM movement in the same classification as reparations is ridiculous!! Reparations is a concept that should be part of a larger discussion for a greater understanding of what they are, how they happen, why, how it affects the people receiving them, etc.

[@Stophatingjitt]

How tf blacks want reparations when whites basically granted up freedom they ain’t have to we ain’t fight for it so we ain’t deserve it

[@stephenbuck1280]

Slavery is an important part of our history and it should be taught in schools. There is nothing wrong with teaching American history from a black person’s perspective, but it should be taught within a wider world history. Slavery was endemic across the world until about 1820 when the British decided to enforce a ban across the whole world. Slavery has effected every race. The last white slaves were freed in the 1830’s. Over time slavery turned into serfdom, then into indentured servants and finally developed into the employment we have today. The really sad thing is that slavery still exists in the modern world, just look at what ISIS did in Syria. The problem with the black history lessons is they leave black American people feeling that they are the victims of slavery which they are not. If anything they have benefited from it as they now live in America, the richest country in the world and not West Africa which has some of the poorest countries in the world.

[@thelemon5069]

Even modern black Americans are still victims of the slave system my guy. Rosa parks died in 2005 racism hasn't just died and ended. Slavery just got moved to the prison system. You're a joke if you think black Americans don't know this and feel it.

[@parismcknight8290]

Jesus… that took a turn. My goodness, I’m really at a lost of words. The whole victimization of black people is not being done by the black community. Stating facts and having people like you flip the script creates such narratives. So let me be honest, factual, and punctuational, slavery has affected and still affects other groups of people to this day. The AA studies discipline is to look from a Afrocentric perspective of history (from the accounts of those enslaved who make up the African diaspora) compared to the Eurocentric perspective, which unintentionally and/or intentionally you are promoting in this post. Generalizing slavery into one is also a terrible way to go about this, their are to many branches to do that. Hence, why we have and WANT higher level classes that dissect such issues on a more microscopic level.

[@aristocraticrebel]

Vice will soon be over. Hahahahaha!!!

[@VAMPZDJ]

Lol no wonder vice went bankrupt

[@IAMLASHAIE]

African American Floridian here, I do not support DeSantis and his elimination of AA studies or the 999 bill. I wish that I would’ve known about the protest cause I definitely would’ve been there. I do believe that we as a minority do have the responsibility of teaching our children our history, American history in general. All minorities and religions do….cause there will be someone that has a problem with it and try to erase your people from the world. Why couldn’t DeSantis just eliminate certain lessons he didn’t agree with?

[@aus-li]

But in-depth “history” isn’t taught in general in the US, so I’ll never understand why everyone gets so upset over the education system, when it’s always been biased and filled with propaganda.

[@phatmanjake4336]

Because he’s an authoritarian fascist

[@aquasnippy]

Book and education banning is a classic, fascism 101 basics move

[@carbon_gc855]

i agree with the governor of florida, what does the lgbtq community have to do with black history?

[@atmanbrahman1872]

Black history happening in Chicago right now.

[@phatmanjake4336]

White history happened on Jan 6

[@atmanbrahman1872]

Epic.

[@parismcknight8290]

@@atmanbrahman1872 lawless

[@atmanbrahman1872]

@@parismcknight8290 Lucy. The warrior princess. Also epic.

[@yoloswaggins1579]

Democrat run since 1931 btw😂

[@nickd5117]

By the same logic, American schools should teach Irish, Italian and Native American history (maybe few more) because all those peoples history is American history Also learn it in its entirety, not just the convenient parts that agree with your internal biases

[@thepredhulkchronicles5934]

What parts would then disagree with their “internal biases”?

[@codmobilevets7208]

Man it's sad to see so many black people accept the victim mentality 😢

[@monopolizedopamine]

Scary to see so many white people accept the victim mentality because school shootings happen .

[@phatmanjake4336]

So sad to see so many white people not wanting to be held accountable for their ignorance and past

[@mrfake675]

Thomas Sowell will teach you more about history then this woke crap.

[@swaggitypigfig8413]

Land of the free and home of the lawsuit!

[@thenotorious2322]

So you’re okay with propaganda being taught in publicly funded schools? Black history is taught in us history

[@monopolizedopamine]

​@@thenotorious2322 delicious reactionary tears.

[@deadhand8819]

@@thenotorious2322 you got a victim mentality mindset

[@ereyes6718]

I hate DeSantis. I never hated Trump, I thought he was a clown. But there is this sinister drive behind DeSantis, there is competency, something Trump lacked greatly was competency.

[@GracesGarden80]

Between the ages of 14-16 I studied ‘Race Relations’ for GCSE History. In particular we focused on American, South African and colonist experiences and I live in the UK! This was a core topic and we covered everything from Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Rosa Parks, Civil Rights movement and act as well as Mandela, ANC and Apartheid. Why can’t American students learn about its own history? Surely that’s a violation of the First Amendment and Human Rights Act?? In the UK we had to confront the uncomfortable truths about colonialism, why can’t the USA? Baffling.

[@arjunchatterjee875]

they're gonna murder him for the chicken tikka masala

[@Burnlit1337]

Isn't this subject an elective? And is it popular in that state or the US for that matter? I think we should just let the schools and its students decide which subject to take or not. If there is enough demand for a subject then the school will supply more and vise versa.

[@ace-vb7lw]

One thing a yt person is going to do is whine and cry in the comments about problems THEY made. 😂

[@sylezjusz]

They mock your history by trying to make "queer studies" part of it and you still whine about whitey. Talk about dumbassery.

[@email5023]

A KZbin person?

[@omrohit3998]

They didn't do anything it was their grandparents their grandparents are not them so don't blame current white people

[@Ri57490]

​@@email5023 'yt' means 'white' - you say the letter Y then add the 'T' sound at the end.

[@R2d2..]

,,they”. You’re racist yourself. You’re categorizing a whole group of people based on their phenotype. Embarrassing.

[@arquilli1]

Hard not to disagree with Desantis…people pretending that not spending an entire semester devoted to one side view of queer theory and BLM is somehow like preventing kids from knowing about the Tulsa massacre

[@jamesbeemer7855]

I mean , really ? Yes , he has a few problems , but I think we can work with that . But changeing history is not the answer . History stories are lessons learned . If there is something wrong with that telling , add to it in rebuttle .

[@monopolizedopamine]

Yes.

[@rebeccaboudreau7589]

May they win, then become the next leaders of Florida. It’s the only hope to take it out of the armpit

[@meejinhuang]

He couldn't afford a lawyer.

[@eltiochusma]

People who can't afford lawyers deserve representation. It's called "pro bono." Look it up!

[@drjordan5706]

@@eltiochusma You just assumed that he can read?

[@deadhand8819]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jimjones1130]

They will never live down the indignity.. time to separate.

[@norrinradd9155]

Let them learn

[@skontheroad]

I know first hand that VICE always only tells one side of the story. Even the part that they present as "the other side" is incredibly curated. Like the gentleman marching towards the end said, "If you are not educated on the topic you cannot ask the right questions." Hopefully people can look past the production value of what they broadcast and ask the right questions--on ALL of their pieces!

[@nathangreen6638]

5:40-5:55 that's literally what queer folk have experienced. Dafuq is he talking about?

[@warden1969]

It’s easily possible to find out the truth online, without going to classes pushing an agenda.

[@basednoamchomsky]

Ron is pushing an agenda

[@MrDoesntUpload001]

And what is this "agenda" you all love to bring up?

[@thepredhulkchronicles5934]

Yes, because we all believe everything on the internet is more reliable than what is taught in a classroom 🤨