What is the Future of Immigration | Shane Smith Has Questions

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@MrCross-hh2wg
@MrCross-hh2wg 2 ай бұрын
Illegal immigration could be stopped overnight if the United States government really wanted to. Go after and punish the companies that hire them. Its that simple.
@TKevinBlanc
@TKevinBlanc 2 ай бұрын
@@MrCross-hh2wg Mitt Romney's "self deportation" model, which sounded so absurd when you just heard those two words. But instead, let's punish the illegal immigrants for following our defacto policy.
@SamMcKinley
@SamMcKinley 2 ай бұрын
Those companies fund the politicians. Why would they?
@MrCross-hh2wg
@MrCross-hh2wg 2 ай бұрын
@@SamMcKinley That's my point. They don't want to stop it.
@EmeraldEyesEsoteric
@EmeraldEyesEsoteric 2 ай бұрын
Is there some country where white Americans can immigrate to, and get a free house and UBI? If not then that's recist. I vote Trump because I am green with envy. If I'm not getting UBI, then no one should get it...
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 2 ай бұрын
Okay bro. And what will you do after all these agricultural companies get demolished by your idea? What will happen to the prices of goods? Hmmmm
@joshuaholder6818
@joshuaholder6818 2 ай бұрын
They need to track the money to these NGO’S.
@HeathSanders
@HeathSanders 2 ай бұрын
🧃
@ginnymobley8246
@ginnymobley8246 2 ай бұрын
You'll see the holy C helped a lot too
@checkeredcheese
@checkeredcheese Ай бұрын
🧠🪱
@Natsoc1488
@Natsoc1488 Ай бұрын
Whoa....whoa....whoa.... that's anti-semetic. 👀
@gregegg-ef1kl
@gregegg-ef1kl Ай бұрын
​@@Natsoc1488cause your broke right?
@jholden0
@jholden0 2 ай бұрын
One thing that wasnt explained well is: by adding to census numbers, and in turn, adding congressional districts, the number of electoral votes increase.
@einnAnnie
@einnAnnie 2 ай бұрын
I wish that Brandon Judd had seen that Shane didn't really understand that a state using illegal immigration to add districts (and, thus, increase its number of House seats) has nothing to do with unlawful voting by aliens so that Shane could question the second guest about it.
@jholden0
@jholden0 2 ай бұрын
@einnAnnie Although, I don't believe that adding congressional districts based on population growth is the driving force behind allowing anyone to enter the country illegally, it would be extremely advantagous to the Democratic party. Most elections over the past few decades have come down to very few electoral votes. I think the primary reason for this policy was to do the same thing that Trump did when he took office. To undo all of the major policy changes that Trump had campaigned on. Trump immediately tried to negate all of the progress Obama made during his tenure. If you want to see what a sudden uncontrollable population increase does to a country, you only have to look North to Canada and what effect it has had on the cost of housing, and the cost of living for all of its citizens.
@ModemMage
@ModemMage 2 ай бұрын
How did he obtain citizenship without understanding this? I thought that was very basic civics knowledge
@PatrickThomasBrady
@PatrickThomasBrady 2 ай бұрын
And let’s say we grant all of these illegal immigrants citizenship as the democrats want to do, if your the party that’s been advocating on your behalf to become citizens and they’ve been in control of where to send them around the country, it’s not hard to see how drastically that would change outcomes of elections, in a country that’s fairly evenly split especially the national vote for presidential elections, this almost guarantees a democrat president every year, throw in these congressional districts being added, it’s an artificial makeover to the voter base, and political power shifted solely towards democrats
@jholden0
@jholden0 2 ай бұрын
@@ModemMage I think you might be very surprised at the barriers to entry. Also, natural citizens don't know this. I would venture to say most Americans don't know this. Most Americans believe whatever they are told on tv and the Internet without researching facts and coming to an educated conclusion on any subjects, not just politics.
@mayito9100
@mayito9100 2 ай бұрын
The greatest challenge of this world is knowing enough about a subject to think you are right, but not knowing enough about the subject to know you are wrong…
@deserenitatem
@deserenitatem 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your anonymous social media Internet comment
@bsmlbn
@bsmlbn 2 ай бұрын
Part of it, i thought to myself if i were mexico how would i feel about the things going on? Well, id hold resentment for the way the us treats us and my people. our government doesn't care about those people and they know it. Why would anyone wana play one sided ball? Let us dare not talk about the corruption, on both sides. Let's not talk too much... you know nobody likes a know-it-all! When will people understand that the criminally minded will never play the ball us "good people" want to play.
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 2 ай бұрын
Rephrasing Dunning-Kruger doesn't make you sound insightful.
@bsmlbn
@bsmlbn 2 ай бұрын
@Zt3v3 let him cook! 😂😂 Or not 😂
@mikecoux
@mikecoux 2 ай бұрын
That’s exactly how I feel after watching this
@nasaihyana
@nasaihyana 2 ай бұрын
Let me get this straight...you fearlessly commit a crime, then get frightened when the consequences are on you and people are supposed to be compassionate???
@xchapix
@xchapix 2 ай бұрын
You paint a very inhumane picture… how about this, your economic situation in your country is so dire that you struggle to feed your children but you hear of a place where the streets are paved of gold. So you make the heat wrenching decision to leave your family, friends and everything you know behind to pursue the POSSIBILITY (not even a guarantee) of a better life for you and your family. So you risk your life to come through illegally (people die at the border all the time) and make it through. Now you take low paying labor intensive jobs to make money to send back home to support your family who all think you’re living the dream but in actuality you’re living in a one room rental working 10 hrs per day and also live with the fear that at any moment you could get caught by immigration and sent back home. The fear doesn’t even come from you not being able to live here anymore, the fear comes from you no longer being able to provide your family the better life style they’re living back home if you were to get deported. This my friend is when people lack empathy it’s because some politician has gotten you to view immigrants as not being real people. Because tell me if you were lucky enough to have been born in some other country you wouldn’t have done the SAME EXACT thing for your kids or family. None of this is to say that it justifies an illegal act but let’s not be hypocrites in the process
@nasaihyana
@nasaihyana 2 ай бұрын
@xchapix no disrespect but I'm not reading all that . The first sentence is enough...do the same thing every black person in America has had to do because we've never had anywhere else to run and become parasites. As we say in the hood "get it out the mud" .
@courtneymartinez8639
@courtneymartinez8639 2 ай бұрын
@@xchapixthat’s not how any of this works. They have to stop at the first safe country they come to. They choose not to do that. And financial asylum is not a legal reason to get asylum.
@DarkWoodsPresents
@DarkWoodsPresents 2 ай бұрын
@@xchapix Well you can apply to come in legally. When they come from South and Central America, they could have applied for asylum in Mexico.
@ColonelSanders17
@ColonelSanders17 2 ай бұрын
​@xchapix all that can be avoided by coming here legally.
@Jlopeztx
@Jlopeztx 2 ай бұрын
I'm all for a very tough but fair immigration policy. Stop illegal immigration, end catch an release, Put back the remain in Mexico policy, deport all new arrivals within the last 3 yrs. . Have a new immigration law that allows those here for more than 10yrs, have broken no laws, Work hard and are not on government assistance programs to create a path towards citizenship. Seems fair to me.
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 Ай бұрын
Five years that would cover the Biden Administration
@dolphus32
@dolphus32 Ай бұрын
You were right about what you said up until the end. No pathway to citizenship for anyone whose first act in a foreign country was to break the law.
@JohnJourdan88
@JohnJourdan88 Ай бұрын
‘Lopez’ Hmm I wonder why
@BroskiesHighland
@BroskiesHighland Ай бұрын
I am from Nepal and I fully support on policy to block entirely for illigal immigrant not only for US but for every nation
@alphansobeadle8462
@alphansobeadle8462 12 күн бұрын
No one is illegal on this EARTH GOD made humans to go and multiply All over the world no boarders to Support their system to make money and supports humans for their benefits
@crimpers5543
@crimpers5543 2 ай бұрын
Let's be honest. Is a criminal going to admit they are crossing to border to commit crimes? What a joke.
@JAdE143-ooo
@JAdE143-ooo 2 ай бұрын
Let's be even more honest that there's way more American citizens as criminals. Most crossing over from Mexico just want to work to support their family & it's cheap labor that's been taken advantage of Even djt has plenty of migrants in servitude @ MaraLardo
@dur9118
@dur9118 2 ай бұрын
@@JAdE143-ooo What a terrible argument. Of course there are more American citizens that commit crimes; there are way more Americans than there are illegal immigrants.
@jessiem276
@jessiem276 2 ай бұрын
​@@JAdE143-oooDo you know how dumb that sounds? Of course there's going to be more American citizens committing crime. Look at the ratio of American citizens verses illegal aliens. Illegals still commit a lot of crime!
@helenapayne3414
@helenapayne3414 2 ай бұрын
If you look at the crime statistics, these immigrants are committing far fewer crimes than the regular Americans.
@Oscuros
@Oscuros 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's the same out here in the free world, most of the crime is done by the natives still and consistently. I understand at the start of Scarface they allude to Cuba opening up their prisons to send their worst criminals to the US, but that's a movie set in the 20th Century? We don't really make policy based on imaginary scenarios, like these unquantified criminals of yours that they frightened you into voting for one side because you obviously don't understand about immigration policy to have such a simplistic view on it not actually based on reality, right.
@normalizedaudio2481
@normalizedaudio2481 2 ай бұрын
VICE is one guy now. They might have one employee.
@kovy689
@kovy689 2 ай бұрын
Vice went bankrupt lol No surprise as to why…
@EdwardsComment
@EdwardsComment 2 ай бұрын
GOOD. Easier to fix what happened to it.
@zach_harrison
@zach_harrison 2 ай бұрын
That one guy happens to be OG Shane Smith, the creator of Vice. Not just a guy fyi.
@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهر
@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهر 2 ай бұрын
Unpaid interns 😂😂😂
@georgiamarceau9455
@georgiamarceau9455 2 ай бұрын
Interesting how the right still lied. We've had the same Border policy since 1952. Biden didn't open the Border tRump was only allowed to use remain in Mexico because of Covid. The Supreme Court changed it which happens to be a Republican majority after Covid was under control. And they didn't talk about the Langford bill written by a Republican. And tRump stopped it from being passed.
@sheex410
@sheex410 2 ай бұрын
I have to be honest that I learned many specifics that politicians will not openly discuss, and it has informed how I view the issue. The one thing that never changes in our country, however: at the end of the day, it's all just a power play from the ruling class with a lot of collateral damage. We as voters need to actually inform ourselves and also demand transparency and accountability from our representatives. Until we hold ourselves accountable to this standard, the cycle will just continue.
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
Yes, significantly when your low-income district in the Bronx is slashing school and town budgets to make room for migrants to stay in schools, airports, etc. Also, it isn't Congress's fault because the liberal policies always have hidden caveats, like letting in 5,000 migrants or sending millions to Ukraine. All politicians are clowns, but these liberals have lied about the COVID lab leak and the border costing thousands of deaths.
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried 2 ай бұрын
Thanks to the Internet there is much we can learn even without transparency and I would highly recommend that you fact check what this person has claimed.
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried 2 ай бұрын
For instance Google how many immigrants were in the US for other years in the past.😊
@magoollaful
@magoollaful 2 ай бұрын
This is a very informative and clearly articulated discussion about the differing sides and points of view about this issue. And I agree, that it's a political football used to manipulate us more than anything. The people wouldn't be coming if the powers that be, whenever and whoever they be, did not want them here. And though I don't personally find anyone coming here to be an issue - increasing my understanding of why it is a several decades long political debate designed to cloud recognition of the more damaging issues - of which immigration is just a movable part of what is used to fortify the interests and entitlements of the nobles.
@Quasar-fv8to
@Quasar-fv8to 2 ай бұрын
what a nothing burger of a statement.
@Jayz4040
@Jayz4040 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this content Vice 👌🏾
@wednesdar452
@wednesdar452 2 ай бұрын
Shane failed to understand the census point, in which States gain representation in Congress based on population (legal or illegal).
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
First, there’s not enough illegal immigrants completing a census form every ten years to vastly change congressional districts, that argument in theory is true, but it’s not reality. Second, if we accept the hypothetical that immigrants greatly change the political landscape, the census is done every 10 years, it’s not like it’s an annual task. Finally, republicans change congressional maps through their gerrymandering efforts for every election cycle, that is a FACT vs their 10-year hypothetical census count!
@who_bob2641
@who_bob2641 2 ай бұрын
I think of that as an interesting point and rational point of view. But why is Texas bussing them to NY or other 'blue' states? Are they complicit on this? I certainly can't be just because the cities are sanctuary cities because then that would protect them more from immigration enforcement.
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
@@wednesdar452 first, how many illegal immigrants are filling out the census, that’s hysterical! Second, it’s counted every 10 years. But I’m sure there’s a study on how much the census has affected congressional districts in the last 50 years compared to the number of migrants entering the country.
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 2 ай бұрын
A lot of these immigrants go to red states. They benefit from the logical leap you are trying to make here
@WithoutRemorse12
@WithoutRemorse12 2 ай бұрын
We have people living as fugitives for decades. Who turned themselves in just to enjoy healthcare paid by the government.
@obfuscateidentity2329
@obfuscateidentity2329 2 ай бұрын
They are not in danger in Mexico. They can go home.
@APerls
@APerls Ай бұрын
Oh really? How about you go down there then? Tell us how it's like?
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 Ай бұрын
@@APerls@APerls, I do not understand. Are you suggesting someone who will become an EX-patriot and a foreigner in a country they do not have any connection vs. Native Mexicans going home? This is an interesting pushback.
@APerls
@APerls Ай бұрын
@@JerzCe73 What does this have to do with mexico being safe or not?
@obfuscateidentity2329
@obfuscateidentity2329 Ай бұрын
@APerls I've been there and ate the tacos 🌮 and did not get sick. I even drank a cola with local made ice cubes. It's safe and there is no excuse for coming to the USA illegally.
@sethfyou4750
@sethfyou4750 Ай бұрын
@@APerls they created the problem down there, they can go back and fix their problem
@BjtheLawyer_
@BjtheLawyer_ 2 ай бұрын
We got the best army ever assembled, but can’t stop an unarmed illegal immigrant with a middle school education from entering our southern border unlawfully is astounding!
@AshMorganComedy
@AshMorganComedy 2 ай бұрын
So you think that martial law is the answer. Interesting.
@DragnEYE
@DragnEYE 2 ай бұрын
@@AshMorganComedy I think enforcing the current law that has been ignored for 4 years is the solution. Illegally entering the country... is illegal.
@Yuyayayu872
@Yuyayayu872 2 ай бұрын
@@DragnEYEignored for 4 years? You mean decades. Ignored for decades. There are very wealthy people that profit immensely by hiring undocumented workers, workers who pay taxes.
@marcpelta4055
@marcpelta4055 2 ай бұрын
Our military is not allowed to protect our borders. I dont understand why we need so many soldiers and tanks if they’re not used along the border against the drug and human trafficking cartels who are well armed
@jol7772
@jol7772 2 ай бұрын
@@AshMorganComedy martial law is not needed here.. martial law is mobilisation for war.. we can just allow our military to protect our borders as Polish military does in Poland.. they are using real bullets and electric wall.. that’s why Poland is so safe for the CITIZENS of Poland who Polish government is representing… if you want to collect all the criminals around the world please accommodate them in your home! Charity should be voluntarily, NOT enforced! I am NOT participating in this insane charity any more! Same as the MAJORITY of the Americans who voted for TRUMP! ❤🇺🇸
@madelineanabella6400
@madelineanabella6400 2 ай бұрын
A lot of these immigrants cannot stand Americans. They think we have money handed to us just because we’re Americans. I’m sick and tired of losing jobs and I’m very qualified for just to have somebody else come along who’s not qualified get hired. I can’t believe that nobody’s doing anything about it either. I’ve sat and watched all of this go down the past several years. I’ve been really depressed over it. It seems like it just keeps getting worse, not better.
@13JDOG666
@13JDOG666 2 ай бұрын
Trump will do something about it.
@madelineanabella6400
@madelineanabella6400 2 ай бұрын
Thank God for Trump ! ♥️🇺🇸♥️. 🔔🔔🔔Philly Girl Trump supporter here.
@13JDOG666
@13JDOG666 2 ай бұрын
@@madelineanabella6400 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@OzixiThrill
@OzixiThrill Ай бұрын
As long as you don't get money out of politics, the situation is going to keep getting worse. Trump isn't going to change that either. Because at the end of the day, instead of foreigners being near you, being given your job, it will be foreigners in their own home nations getting your jobs given to them on-site.
@thegroovypatriot
@thegroovypatriot 2 ай бұрын
One need not understand all the complexities of policy to understand that our border is not secure and that we're already having problems from this massive influx.
@fernandomarquez3131
@fernandomarquez3131 2 ай бұрын
Outstanding, bringing in a selection of experts on a heated topic . Thank you VICE NEWS, always on point.
@pukelius4128
@pukelius4128 2 ай бұрын
More like "Vice news! Trying to stay relevant"
@horusthehorse
@horusthehorse 2 ай бұрын
@@pukelius4128 more like 'Shane Smith- the only one who gets paid at Vice! Now in working outfit with working dialogue!!'
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
​@@pukelius4128...by covering the news? 🧐
@nyranstanton203
@nyranstanton203 2 ай бұрын
Shane Smith is the only reason i watched VICE in the first place. Im actually watchign VICE again here and there because he seems to be doing a more active role and making interesting content again. Its not just about sex life in Japan.
@sallylauper8222
@sallylauper8222 2 ай бұрын
Did Vice just grow a pair? This was actually a non-biased report. The denial of immigrant vote buying is funny because there was every mention of how long it takes to get immigrant voting status, and no mention of the push for illegal immigrant illegal voting rights.
@prague7706
@prague7706 2 ай бұрын
Let’s see, just started watching, my expectations are not high.
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 2 ай бұрын
What about that right wing nut Gavin McGinnis? Isn't he worth watching?
@dongforrest5501
@dongforrest5501 2 ай бұрын
explain why no ID is required in blue states if it’s a plot ?
@allenliu8820
@allenliu8820 2 ай бұрын
Because the system worked before and still works. Like the statistics on the chances someone was able to vote without registration in the presidential election was literally in three digits, which is extremely small when about 150+ million people voted. Trump created mistrust in the voting system so he can win, which is why Trump claimed voter fraud in 2016, 2020, and 2024. Despite him winning in 2016 and 2024.
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie 2 ай бұрын
​@allenliu8820 There's definitely weird things that make it easier to believe that there might be fraud that they should address if they don't want people to take voter fraud claims seriously. Most states count their votes completely by a few hours after the polls close. But then the swing states are counting all night and morning. And California and Alaska take a week. Then there's computerized voting machines, which take longer to count, have errors every election, and don't leave paper records. Then there's a few states that always have a massive jump in votes for democrats at 3am from mail in ballots. It happened in 2024, too, in Wisconsin and New Mexico, just not enough for Trump to lose. In 2020, they explained it as democrats using mail in ballots more than Republicans, but in this election, mail in ballots were split evenly. But there was still that 3am spike for democrats. Also, Democrats used to claim election fraud when they lost, too. They complained about voting machines in 2000. If there's an explanation, why deflect from answering?
@DMU386
@DMU386 2 ай бұрын
@@allenliu8820wait a second. So in this country everyone, unless you live under a fucking rock, can see that it’s all a grift. Corruption is behind every single door, a scam around every corner. But you think voting and elections are on the level?!?! Let me ask you something, Do you think all election, both federal and state, are free of any type of corruption?!? Ill wait here for your answer
@jorgeenchilada
@jorgeenchilada 2 ай бұрын
Every comment I see by a republican I can tell why Trump won. Zero critical thinking skills. Zero research done. "California does not require voters to present PHOTO identification. However, some voters may be asked to show a form of identification when voting if they are voting for the first time after registering to vote by mail and did not provide a driver license number, California identification number, or the last four digits of their social security number." THIS IS THE MOST LIBERAL STATE. YOU STILL NEED IDENTIFYING INFO. There are single digit illegal aliens voting, if at all. It's not a large number at all. You've just convinced yourself it's a problem because a snake oil salesman who probably has a lower iq than you told you it was true.
@MichaelAbney-w6t
@MichaelAbney-w6t 2 ай бұрын
How do you know the system worked before? You have no idea, you're just making statements.
@zeke3388
@zeke3388 2 ай бұрын
That whole administration deserve jail time!
@einnAnnie
@einnAnnie 2 ай бұрын
Which one?
@shellimendoza7332
@shellimendoza7332 2 ай бұрын
Vote in midterms
@ColonelSanders17
@ColonelSanders17 2 ай бұрын
I agree a lot of people in the Biden administration should see jail time ;)
@steved1438
@steved1438 2 ай бұрын
@@einnAnnie The one that has an ex-president billionaire, supported by the richest man in the world (who also happens to be one of the pentagon's largest defense contractors)- who pretends they AREN'T 'insiders' or 'the elites'.
@maryoleary899
@maryoleary899 2 ай бұрын
Voter ID is NECESSARY!
@padraics
@padraics 2 ай бұрын
And asking for citizenship status on census to limit effect on electoral votes and congressional districts
@williamjameslehy1341
@williamjameslehy1341 2 ай бұрын
No it isn't. But if you really insist, then we need a free national ID card that's issued to all 330 million of us with minimal effort required on the individual's part. The fact that you fascist window-lickers bristle at that idea is proof that you just want to disenfranchise the demographic groups who are less likely to have a driver's license.
@amanky11
@amanky11 Ай бұрын
You’re right. It currently is necessary to have a voter ID to vote in all states.
@GielenKatie
@GielenKatie 2 ай бұрын
"who wouldn't want to move to the USA?" me. I don't.
@norwegianboyee
@norwegianboyee 2 ай бұрын
I might visit, but not for a moment have i thought the US seemed like a good place to live compared to Norway.
@jryland6
@jryland6 2 ай бұрын
@@norwegianboyee at this point, I WISH I COULD LEAVE!!!! Unfortunately, I’m AM 70, POOR & PHYSICALLY DISABLED DUE TO YEARS OF DEALING WITH PAIN CAUSED BY THOSE INJURIES. SO I’M STUCK HERE!!!!
@christianauswien
@christianauswien 2 ай бұрын
Way too dangerous & weird
@ep4423
@ep4423 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts 💯
@ep4423
@ep4423 2 ай бұрын
​@jryland6 I don't know your situation but if you've checked out assets to sell discreetly and if you collect you disability check straight in your bank account I'd consider cheaper European countries on the coasts a few months of the year if possible. I don't know your situation though but in winter in Spain in the Costa del sol you can rent in a place called torremelinos you can rent a small furnished apartment for €600 per month. It's full of English speaking retirees. Take care.
@alwayslive7460
@alwayslive7460 Ай бұрын
GREAT INTERVIEWS- THANKS FOR SHARING
@sullywully8742
@sullywully8742 Ай бұрын
As an immigrant, I'm wondering what this gentleman is smoking saying "the only way to come in is to go to the border and seek asylum". I came here for school, then worked, then got green card, like 100s of thousands of people every year. And I don't even hate my home country at all or had any issue back home so that I had to seek asylum. It's incredibly dishonest to frame it so dramatically, ignoring 100s of thousands of people getting in legitimately every year. To me the experience was simple: It's just that I got to do what I needed to do, and I contributed to the American society and I was given a chance after stated my reasons, rightfully so. I didn't even have to get my green card through marriage with my American spouse. If you have legitimate reasons to be here, aka you are a prospect of becoming a contributing member of this society, you have more than enough ways to get in. However we design this process with empathy and intelligence, it should probably be a bit harder than just turning up at the border.
@DesertflowerUSA
@DesertflowerUSA Ай бұрын
Great interviews, very informative
@dankelly2147
@dankelly2147 2 ай бұрын
As a resident of the borderlands along the Mexican border in the mountains of the Sonoran Desert, the situation here is insane in the extreme. Those of living here and the Border Patrol are the meat in this sandwich. The unwillingness of the Congress to institute a cogent immigration AND border policy so as to use scapegoating as a political whip has resulted in continuing deaths along our border; an unprecedented number of migrants swarming the border; the proliferation of vigilante militia violence in a miasma of fear-based hate against migrants. Our current situation is imbecilic and absurd in the extreme. The bill that Trump harpooned would have begun to institute the controls needed. What had been primarily Mexican and Central American migrants has now become a potpourri of Asians (primarily Chinese and Indians), South Africans and others who cross the line, sit down and await arrest to claim asylum. The libertarian last interviewed and the man preceding him presented the most cogent descriptions of the situation I have heard. Sadly, with the election of Trump whose modus is fear-mongering and to feed nativist paranoia, the pending wholesale deportations are an economic disaster waiting to happen. Until rational players in the Congress establish proper reforms and funding for addition of asylum judges to close the time gap on adjudicating asylum cases; for detention and deportation of those not qualifying; and for institution of reasonable legal means of migration reform making legal immigration available, we will have nothing but greater human tragedies along the border.
@upyorkstate5541
@upyorkstate5541 2 ай бұрын
The current border is too far north, and should be moved to the Panama Canal. Any wall or other physical barrier can be overcome. Minefields and active interlacing fields of fire via machine guns nests and mortar pits should supplement physical barriers. My family has hosted foreign nationals, and I have assisted with the citizenship process. The last 3.5 years of failed policy and handouts are NOT the way forward.
@Gibsonseven
@Gibsonseven 2 ай бұрын
Bravo very well put 😊
@chucktaylor4958
@chucktaylor4958 2 ай бұрын
@@upyorkstate5541the failed policy extends further back than 3.5 years.
@upyorkstate5541
@upyorkstate5541 2 ай бұрын
@@chucktaylor4958 Absolutely!
@mindyrosin
@mindyrosin 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic explanation, Thank you! I hear that it's such a complex issue and I'm sure resolving the root issues and such are but as for the US border/asylum issue, it seems fairly sensicle
@matthewreichlin4993
@matthewreichlin4993 2 ай бұрын
Most conservatives or Republicans are not opposed to all immigration. Just want legal immigration based on carefully thought out needs and what's best for Americans. We might be open to some kind of amnesty for those who have been here, but not if it is going to incentivize continued illegal immigration. The idea that every 10 or 20 years you can get amnestiated in seems enough of an incentive to keep people coming in illegally.
@themotofixery
@themotofixery 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely perfect! Very well put!
@sethfyou4750
@sethfyou4750 Ай бұрын
the fact youre even suggesting the idea of amnesty is ridiculous.
@colekrantzteacheseverythin5543
@colekrantzteacheseverythin5543 2 ай бұрын
I’ve always have enjoyed VICE NEWS. Thank you Shane for continuing your work.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Vice is still up! Nice!
@complexaltruist
@complexaltruist 2 ай бұрын
Catch and release was popular in the 80s because we didn't nor still do, have enough court processing power to process the amount of people. They aren't catching them and then just saying have a good day. They are processed then given a court date to appear at.
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried 2 ай бұрын
🎯. Facts.
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 2 ай бұрын
Which currently has a 7 year waiting period to get an initial court date.
@honieebean
@honieebean 2 ай бұрын
And they just don't show up
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 2 ай бұрын
@@honieebean That wasn’t the point.
@complexaltruist
@complexaltruist 2 ай бұрын
@honieebean they show up most of the time
@KingBond702
@KingBond702 2 ай бұрын
Great video
@kojosmith1210
@kojosmith1210 2 ай бұрын
Dang people are mad in this comments section even though the video is about "Trump's immigration policy"
@Big_Gords
@Big_Gords 2 ай бұрын
Is vice actually doing journalism again??
@juanluistennis1
@juanluistennis1 2 ай бұрын
With a bit of bias still but better than before
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 2 ай бұрын
@@juanluistennis1 The need to bring Gavin McGinnis back.
@machsimillian14
@machsimillian14 2 ай бұрын
Not really. The first dude they spoke to said trump fixed immigration when he was in office. That's patently false.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
​@@drmodestoesqThat would be incredible.
@currentcommerce4774
@currentcommerce4774 2 ай бұрын
americans have a right to say "no". its our country, and if you call that racist I'll say "yes Im a racist", because its better then standards being removed for our culture.
@hyena280
@hyena280 2 ай бұрын
Then why not approve the border bill that Trump said to reject? That would have helped.
@darrinatorrr
@darrinatorrr 2 ай бұрын
Agree
@fredgarvinMP
@fredgarvinMP 2 ай бұрын
@@hyena280 I trust Trump over Democrats.
@complexaltruist
@complexaltruist 2 ай бұрын
What standards are being removed? Pigment?
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried 2 ай бұрын
How are "standards removed" when less than 1%of the population is immigrants?
@stevewright6632
@stevewright6632 2 ай бұрын
"Don't get comfortable" -Holman
@campampates
@campampates Ай бұрын
"We've been comfortable since you took the land from us" --Every brown person in the brown person American Continent.
@natural_cycle
@natural_cycle 2 ай бұрын
Shane Smith the Canadian
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
@@natural_cycle he’s also an American citizen
@WithoutRemorse12
@WithoutRemorse12 2 ай бұрын
America is the biggest entertainment hub in the world. Vice could of still been big if it just remained in Canada. America offers way more opportunities for Capital investment.
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 2 ай бұрын
@@WithoutRemorse12 Smith got literally billions from suckers in the American investment community.
@zokpls8712
@zokpls8712 2 ай бұрын
Shane is the greatest ❤
@RioDuek
@RioDuek 2 ай бұрын
Shane broke all kinds of news here that should of spread more
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
This guy is showing his bias. As soon as Shane talked about his journey to citizenship, he changed his tune.
@RioDuek
@RioDuek 2 ай бұрын
We all have bias, Shane is an immigrant after all.
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
@@RioDuek sure we do, but thus “expert” should be stating facts, not speaking to persuade opinion. Shane’s journey is typical of someone entering through the northern border, if we were serious about migrants entering legally, we’d secure both borders exactly the same, but it’s more about who these ppl,are and where they come from than anything else. Americans will be sorry when they’re paying $10 for a bunch of bananas or oranges or a gallon of milk. Migrant workers do all the 💩 jobs that Americans don’t want to do, many within agriculture and food processing!
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
@@jeanniep1003 He visited the Darien gap. You know, where women and children are getting raped by cartels and where most people who take the journey die. I think he's a field expert for sure. Who are you?
@stefanbucur6472
@stefanbucur6472 2 ай бұрын
You will always see bias when you literally don't want to understand the difference between legal entry using visas and green cards and illegal entry in between ports of entry claiming "asylum".
@erc9468
@erc9468 2 ай бұрын
@@stefanbucur6472 Everyone has bias, but not everyone misrepresents the facts. The Left brags about the replacement of native born Americans. It isn’t a conspiracy theory if it is admitted to, whether or not you like Tucker Carlson.
@ctfinneman
@ctfinneman 2 ай бұрын
It's good to Shane back
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 2 ай бұрын
Shane back good see to.
@nirradical
@nirradical 2 ай бұрын
After Shane's embarrassing appearance on Rogan he needed to do this. He didn't seem to have a clue what was going on at the border. Great guest--this dude definitely knows what's going on.
@olebh
@olebh 2 ай бұрын
"Kids in cages" controversy, are you for real?
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser 2 ай бұрын
They are eating the dogs too
@ll4680
@ll4680 2 ай бұрын
You mean the cages that were built under Obama 🤡
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
@@JoeKyserthey’re eating the cats
@designjunky
@designjunky 2 ай бұрын
Kids in cages "controversy" 🙄
@jryland6
@jryland6 2 ай бұрын
Yep, kids in cages!!!!!!
@TheCrucialQ
@TheCrucialQ 2 ай бұрын
I see this as more of a corporation, large business(if that exist), to small business problem. They benefit the most from immigration to illegal immigration. The states, and the fed benefit as well, from undocumented worker taxes as well as sales tax. The party fight help shield the corporations, businesses that benefit most from all forms of immigration.
@jerleneh.
@jerleneh. 2 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯!
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 Ай бұрын
That is exactly why you see them funding both sides...CYA
@abalu5547
@abalu5547 2 ай бұрын
Enlightening.
@kristinrutherford8779
@kristinrutherford8779 2 ай бұрын
this is the number one reason why many democrats voted trump as well
@therealking6202
@therealking6202 2 ай бұрын
Keep telling yourself that.
@suzettegibson6407
@suzettegibson6407 2 ай бұрын
ok and they didn't want a qualified woman. they wanted .......
@williamjameslehy1341
@williamjameslehy1341 2 ай бұрын
Because of irrational fear? Yeah, we knew that.
@MyCamilla1989
@MyCamilla1989 Ай бұрын
I'm one of them. Enough is enough.
@therealking6202
@therealking6202 Ай бұрын
@@MyCamilla1989 Bot.
@Gforeveryone
@Gforeveryone 2 ай бұрын
Good to see balanced journalism on this issue affecting so many Western countries.
@TonyCanones
@TonyCanones 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video. An honest open dialogue on this topic helps clear the air.
@hyena280
@hyena280 2 ай бұрын
An open dialogue - but it's a soft interview. No pushback. No reference to data.
@m.singleton229
@m.singleton229 2 ай бұрын
It's not just about controlled. In orderly status, it's also about fairness. Those who have been waiting in line for years should be at the front of the line. Those who have applied even if they're still in their own countries, they should be ahead of the illegal immigrants
@johnwilliam2474
@johnwilliam2474 2 ай бұрын
The retired immigration guy was ok until he said the border problem is designed to bring socialism and stuff about California. Thats when he started to sound crack pot
@Rommie26
@Rommie26 2 ай бұрын
He won the medal of freedom from Obama lol
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
@@Rommie26 doesn’t mean he’s not a crackpot
@WithoutRemorse12
@WithoutRemorse12 2 ай бұрын
He a paid pundit who pretty much has agenda to make money than speak truth.
@ShovelShovel
@ShovelShovel 2 ай бұрын
he right though, it's well document, called the Cloward-Piven strategy, to intentionally overwhelm the welfare system to bring about political crisis and unrest.
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 2 ай бұрын
It creates more expensive government assistance for non-citizens at the cost to citizens. That's not a crack pot claim.
@Ammo10000
@Ammo10000 2 ай бұрын
R.I.P. VICE (2001-2007)
@LowTempLarry710
@LowTempLarry710 2 ай бұрын
Jesus.. that first guy wasn’t biased or anything…wtf
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 2 ай бұрын
honestly, idc if he was biased or not, but it would have been a lot more believable if he had literally any evidence lol. he even admits he didn't speak to any of the chinese migrants.
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
Second guy was even worse
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 2 ай бұрын
First guy sounded like a snake oil salesman
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
@@snowballeffect7812 Okay, well, there are multiple videos and documentations of it. Also, when children are getting raped, and cartels are profiting.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
He's right. And he reflects the majority of the people in America currently.
@morganstewart-kp2dy
@morganstewart-kp2dy 2 ай бұрын
Ice is back! Mr Homan gots a plan!
@timmoteus
@timmoteus 2 ай бұрын
Instead of deporting the ones who've already made it in, just issue them "suspended" deportations that will be enforced upon failing to abide by specified behavioural conditions. Also consider paying them to get out, as it would still be a massive saving compared to continual subsidies.
@inaeckhard1439
@inaeckhard1439 2 ай бұрын
People who did not like high prices are forgetting that it was the corporate greed that raised prices for profit. Undocumented people work in farms and if these people are deported, food prices will go up. These undocumented people paid 97 billion in taxes in 2022 via ITN number where taxes are deducted by employer, money that went to top up Social Security and Medicare despite they themselves are not eligible for Social Security.
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 2 ай бұрын
No to both. Re the latter, they figured out how to get to the US without US taxpayer assistance. They may work their magic on the trip home.
@thegroovypatriot
@thegroovypatriot 2 ай бұрын
No. No way.
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 Ай бұрын
That is what the UK and other European countries are doing now.
@vendorwave5069
@vendorwave5069 2 ай бұрын
I’m so confused why they hold so different definitions in terms of open border
@elliottbradshaw6856
@elliottbradshaw6856 2 ай бұрын
Because one side understand that the current policies create "fundamentally" an open border, not defintionally. The other side pretends that because it isn't "definitionally" an open border that it must also not be fundamentally one too. The games we play...
@dur9118
@dur9118 2 ай бұрын
@@elliottbradshaw6856 Nailed it.
@Thadude701
@Thadude701 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in southern California in the late 70s and early 80s ,the estimate back then was a " got away" every ten seconds and then Reagan gave millions of illegals amnesty ,let's see what happens this next four years .
@jerleneh.
@jerleneh. 2 ай бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾... folks always want to skip over the fact that Reagan did that.
@jryland6
@jryland6 2 ай бұрын
I, CERTAINLY, DID NOT VOTE FOR REAGAN!!!!! I VOTED FOR JIMMY CARTER!!!!!! 💙
@cinemapigeon4898
@cinemapigeon4898 2 ай бұрын
The thing is immigrants (Latinos) won't even be voting Democrats by the time they can vote. Hell, Hispanics are a big reason Trump is about to become president, so why exactly is there a conservative push to believe Democrats can successfully import future voters? Immigrants largely have conservative values, and by the time they can vote+issues at that time, there's no guarantee they would even vote Democrat.
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried 2 ай бұрын
​@@jryland6good for you?
@RussoConcerned
@RussoConcerned 2 ай бұрын
Just do it for the future of the country -- a non-partisan issue. --> will not incentivize illegals to cross the border and baby spit. Amend `U.S. Citizenship By Birth.` "Citizenship by birth" should be granted only to children born to U.S. citizens and permanent residents. In addition, at least one parent must be a U.S. citizen or a permanent resident (Green Card Holder). Children born to a person under any other visa (temporary - H1B/L1, etc.) category and those illegally residing in the U.S. should NOT be granted automatic Citizenship by Birth. England did the same in 1983.Post this on the door of every member of Congress in your state and all concerned voters in the community.
@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf
@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf 2 ай бұрын
Gavin made Vice, and Vice died the day he left.
@robertross9567
@robertross9567 2 ай бұрын
How this guy says MAGA says something…
@Catlady4Trump
@Catlady4Trump 58 минут бұрын
Why do some states not require proof of citizenship or even an ID to vote?
@beemarron3642
@beemarron3642 2 ай бұрын
Shane, you could have gone to: Alexander Betts; Madeleine Sumption; Audrey Lumley-Sapanski. Talk to real experts, not over-confident arse-dribbles like Bensman. You're a journalist, do better.
@sshomesteaders1776
@sshomesteaders1776 2 ай бұрын
You took the words out of my brain
@K-xor
@K-xor 2 ай бұрын
I was changing my mind a little bit by listening to this guy. Is he reliable?
@dallastaylor5479
@dallastaylor5479 2 ай бұрын
Excellent point.
@jryland6
@jryland6 2 ай бұрын
I think you’re missing the point. Duh!
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
Okay, well, there are multiple videos and documentations of it. Also, when children are getting raped, and cartels are profiting.
@NoSeasBurro
@NoSeasBurro 2 ай бұрын
The moment the guest said, "I talk to, thousands! I don't count them but I know it's thousands" i knew he was full of shhh it!! Sounds like, trust me bro😉, source😂
@702PARADISE
@702PARADISE 2 ай бұрын
Never in the whole video it was discussed that all those immigrants where processed by private American companies wich each immigrant was charged 5,000 dollars times 10,000,000 immigrants equals to 50,000,000,000 billion dollars all to the pockets of American private companies
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
@@702PARADISE huh? Share your source
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 2 ай бұрын
Where are you going to detain these people??? How and who will decide if they have a valid asylum claim? Only an immigration judge can determine that.
@gloriahulsewalker9026
@gloriahulsewalker9026 2 ай бұрын
They also been in central and south American not with war, but by using all the resources that the country has, then leave the countries, the economy become a mess, people loose their jobs of many years many countries never recover because of the crooked governments. Also I read that when a country gets a good leader that wants what is good for the country one way or the other the USA get rid of them and put a crooked leader that will work with the USA.
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 Ай бұрын
Hello, I agree that United States meddling is a prime issue. But this question is something I am continuously seeing. Loose=Lose, I am not a grammar nazi; I use Grammarly, but is this an ESL thing. I know that American English can contradict and have a confusing word structure, but I would like to know. if you answer or not. Thanks for your post.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
It's been decades since that was happening.
@Grandepau788
@Grandepau788 Ай бұрын
The greatest cause for these mass migrations is the policy combined with the fact our billion-dollar-funded non-profit organizations which we funded for the purpose of helping migrants get on their foot in another country (example Venezuelans fleeing to Colombia) are not truly accessible to those migrants who fled. They may hand out food at an event. But as far as migrants being able to contact them, and seek their help to find work, and helping connect them with affordable rent and open a bank account in new country. All of this seems simple enough but is actually insanely harder than it really is and I know for this from experience having been involved with humanitarian outreach for years. But this is what news does not ever cover. This is also what politicians never seek to resolve. So all I can do is try to raise funds to do what they aren't doing even though we've already given by tax dollars about just shy of 1 billion to these foreign aide groups for latin countries and for migrants fleeing to neighboring countries. Meanwhile we send billions to Ukraine and nearly a trillion in total to Ukraine and Israel if not more. We need to focus more on this continent which does more for us than those countries outside of this continent of the Americas.
@LanceJohn
@LanceJohn 2 ай бұрын
That 2nd guy has no clue what socialism is lol
@johnwilliam2474
@johnwilliam2474 2 ай бұрын
yep
@norwegianboyee
@norwegianboyee 2 ай бұрын
Almost nobody in the US knows. It's just a catch-all term for "things i don't like"
@LanceJohn
@LanceJohn 2 ай бұрын
@norwegianboyee facts
@Quasar-fv8to
@Quasar-fv8to 2 ай бұрын
Socialism is a plague on the human species, thats for certain. You wanna know why Africa, despite having so many people and so much resources to utilize, is the poorest continent in the world (where countries exist)? Its because of socialism. Over regulated, super sized governments that destroy the ability for entrepreneurs to even exist, to fire bad workers and hire good ones, and to spend billions of more dollars on garbage that provides no benifit to their people. Socialism is a plague that destroys every sector of society from agriculture, to construction, to education. It is a tool primarily utilized to clog the government up and breed the seed of communism, where atrocities truly happen. The worst invention before the nuclear bomb.
@MysticFnaticz
@MysticFnaticz 2 ай бұрын
Many legal ones are leaving now seeing how bad things got
@thomasbarchen
@thomasbarchen 2 ай бұрын
Moving to France
@AlexJuelo
@AlexJuelo 2 ай бұрын
All imma say is who voted for him?
@CollinMac96
@CollinMac96 2 ай бұрын
I did, MAGA
@Zatchillac
@Zatchillac 2 ай бұрын
@@CollinMac96 How's your cult going?
@damnsam9731
@damnsam9731 2 ай бұрын
@@CollinMac96thanks a lot. It may take you a little longer than average, but you will, straight up the booty like the rest of us now, MAGHOLE.
@Cosmo1093
@Cosmo1093 2 ай бұрын
More than anything, Trump's win along with GOP control of Congress probably says more about how out-of-touch the Democratic party has become. The Dems spent their time pandering to their base and defending unpopular positions on immigration, criminal justice, the economy, etc. instead of trying to win over moderate voters.
@Rommie26
@Rommie26 2 ай бұрын
Me
@Jay-z2x
@Jay-z2x 2 ай бұрын
When Ice deports them they should wear “ Latinos for Trump hats”
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
The Latinos who voted for Trump are legal immigrants. Do you realise why assuming all Latinos are federal criminals might not be very progressive?
@wikilee8928
@wikilee8928 2 ай бұрын
Your guests share a common fallacy, they all make the immigration issue such a complicated problem that it can never be solved, even experts, media and professional politicians cannot solve. The experts, the media and the professional politicians must keep it unsolvable, otherwise they will lose their jobs, so, they abandoned common sense. The Immigration issue is not that complicated. We are not the 13 colonies, we are a nation-state, and when we lose control of the border, we are no longer a nation. - If the demographics shows our nation is aging, work on incentives to create more babies. - If we need more farm workers, increase the quota for work permits. - If we need more engineers, increase the quota for H-1B visas. - If Americans become too lazy to work, work on education. - If Americans work force has lost the skill sets for hi tech jobs, work on training programs. - If Democrats and Republicans use brainwashing techniques to alter our attitude toward immigrants, tell them to stop. - If our government feeds us with false information, demand the truth. I am an immigrant waited for 10 years for my green card in my old country so that I can come here legally. I don’t regret for waiting. I love America, America is a great country, perhaps the greatest country, and Americans have big hearts.
@fredgarvinMP
@fredgarvinMP 2 ай бұрын
Good ideas, where did you emigrate from?
@alamogiftshop
@alamogiftshop 2 ай бұрын
- If Democrats and Republicans use brainwashing techniques to alter our attitude toward immigrants, tell them to stop. - If our government feeds us with false information, demand the truth. i got a really big laugh out of these points.
@wikilee8928
@wikilee8928 2 ай бұрын
@@fredgarvinMP Hong Kong, back then when it was a British colony.
@orangeyewglad
@orangeyewglad 2 ай бұрын
lol Incentivize to have more babies...There are 8 billion people, are we supposed to just grow exponentially? What about the rest of the species on this planet?
@raminsamii745
@raminsamii745 2 ай бұрын
So you waited for 10 years, than it means that one of your family member who had become a citizen of usa applied for you. I don't believe any other work visa, that you had to wait 10 years to come. This provision will probably disappear, because they don't want you to come and then bring all your family 10 years later... Nice job
@katebutler6386
@katebutler6386 2 ай бұрын
Why is everyone obsessed with growth?
@MrMlbfan6
@MrMlbfan6 2 ай бұрын
In the next 5 years yall gonna see the effect of this BS
@jeffmiller8197
@jeffmiller8197 2 ай бұрын
A strong economy, shutting down the illegal immigrants and child trafficking at the border. Not funding other countries to fight wars like Ukraine and Israel. Spending money on Americans bringing jobs to Americans. I can go on and on and I can't wait
@Bio-vj9vu
@Bio-vj9vu 2 ай бұрын
@@MrMlbfan6 of illegal immigration?
@MrMlbfan6
@MrMlbfan6 2 ай бұрын
@ ilegal immigrantion has been happening for the longest the biggest issue now is that the asylum seekers now they can’t get deported back . Trump is making it seems like is Mexico but meanwhile is Haiti and Venezuela and some African countries
@lettucesalad3560
@lettucesalad3560 2 ай бұрын
@@MrMlbfan6 You think Trump is going to fix it? Didn't Trump have 4 years from 2016-2020? Why didn't he fix immigration/asylum law? You know Trump hired HUNDREDS of migrants to work at Mar-a-lago? Every year Trump applies for migrant visa's to hire workers without permanent immigration status because "it costs too much" to hire non-migrant labor. Even Ann Coulter called Trump out for not being against Mass migration.
@jennifers2561
@jennifers2561 2 ай бұрын
Stop campaigning for the party, the majority didn’t vote for. You have absolutely no one to blame, but yourself. You did nothing the past four years. We hear you, we just don’t care.
@andyandyquick
@andyandyquick Ай бұрын
also, the bright areas of your set should be brighter and the darker, darker
@brianhench3192
@brianhench3192 2 ай бұрын
Why don't they let those who have been here working and paying taxes stay and get legalized? One requirement is that they learn the language and be educated on American history and civics to understand how to live in this country and follow the state and federal laws. If the US doesn't let migrants in, our financial problem will only get worse. They will vote for both parties based on what is best for their family. Get this behind us, and we can finally get serious about the cartel problem.
@deridramatthews76
@deridramatthews76 2 ай бұрын
Good luck with that. You got illegals been here 30 fkn yrs CAN'T speak English and not even TRYING to become legal. As a combat veteran this entire thing pisses me tf off. The entire BIDEN administration is TREASONOUS for ALLOWING this ALL OUT INVASION on AMERICA soil. WE CAN'T take on the ENTIRE 3RD WORLD POVERTY problem or care MORE about THEIR children safety than OUR OWN. Until it's not ONE HOMELESS VETERAN, Hungary ELDERLY persons that CAN'T AFFORD THEIR medications, CHILDREN HOMELESS Or in POVERTY, then it shouldn't be not ONE "ECONOMIC LOCUST" FLOODING OUR borders ILLEGALLY. PERIOD. EVERY DOLLAR spent on an ILLEGAL NO MATTER the reason is a TREASONOUS dollar that could have HELP a VET or OUR Hungary or OUR CHILDREN, OUR WORKING POOR. I don't mind feeding ANYONE but I'd HAVE to be a LUNATIC to feed YOUR children BEFORE MINE. LITERALLY makes no sense.
@Quasar-fv8to
@Quasar-fv8to 2 ай бұрын
Because thats not how the law works and when we start giving exceptions to criminals we teach our own people that the laws mean nothing. I dont give 2 fcks if they lived heree for 4 years and pay taxes, they need to pack it up and head back to the mexican side of the border and apply for citizenship the legal way. Americans born on america with american parents is the only people we should be caring for first and foremost. The average illegal immigrant is a MASSIVE strain and cost on our economy, and they take the jobs and houses real americans could be taking (they accept lower wages and rent out houses with 5+ people living in them) and benifiting from. There is no moral world, where you prioratize non-americans over americans, and your morality is corrupted if you think otherwise.
@einnAnnie
@einnAnnie 2 ай бұрын
Asking people whose first interaction with our laws was to break them, to obey our laws now, is laughable. And it's not even just their illegal entry into the country, but also all their years of working illegally, whether or not they paid taxes on their income.
@777sweet
@777sweet 2 ай бұрын
Most don’t pay no taxes. They really think they want the government to track them. They all make un taxed money and drop babies to obtain free money. I see it all the time on documents
@brianhench3192
@brianhench3192 2 ай бұрын
@@einnAnnie By no means is this a good deal, but we have to find a practical solution that will work out and get from there. Only some people talk about how we fix the broken system; both parties have used it to gain ground in elections and other gains, such as cheap labor. Now, we must somehow manage mass deportations at great expense, or better yet, we have to admit that we are the reason it is such a mess, which is due to the public's lack of interest until an election year. Our own proverbial kicking the can down the road has run out of road, so now we must have a complete reform and a serious effort to fix this problem, not to make a knee-jerk reaction to kick everyone out but instead, look at what is achievable. Less pointing fingers and more cooperating. Biden's white house was not alone in making things worse. He was just the one who lost and was left standing without a chair when the music stopped.
@daveseville7394
@daveseville7394 2 ай бұрын
Vice are getting better again
@MrRhinosilver
@MrRhinosilver 2 ай бұрын
How do you come in legally to the United States how long does it take? Could someone explain that?
@BluemanDrummer
@BluemanDrummer 2 ай бұрын
Usually about 2 years
@taco.escobat5565
@taco.escobat5565 2 ай бұрын
Depends what country they’re coming from too. Some countries are more “desirable” than others. I’ve known Mexican people waiting 20 years.
@taco.escobat5565
@taco.escobat5565 2 ай бұрын
And the process costs thousands of dollars.
@BluemanDrummer
@BluemanDrummer 2 ай бұрын
@ that’s a good thing! You’ve got to really work hard at anything worth having
@alinkilpatrick9302
@alinkilpatrick9302 2 ай бұрын
That is such a complicated answer. It depends. If you want your family member to immigrate : it depends on your relationship. So, if you are a citizen and you want to bring your mom, it is about 18ish months from start to finish. But your brother? That's close to 25 years. Work visas depend on any factors, not just what type of job.And work visas don't contemplate permanent immigration. They are to come here and work for a time,but some offer paths to permanent immigration. There are some work visas that are pretty quick to get - just a few months - but others take years. It's a cluster that needs an extreme makeover.
@Catlady4Trump
@Catlady4Trump 41 минут бұрын
The shift in the view on immigration has less to do with the politicians living in their ivory towers and more to do with WE THE PEOPLE who voted!!
@KL4life
@KL4life 2 ай бұрын
Why does Vibe always has something bad to say about Trump? Maybe we should cancel you!
@truross26
@truross26 2 ай бұрын
They keep skipping out illegal immigration 😅
@mariocarrillo2223
@mariocarrillo2223 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the first guy was a bit too Bias, he kept using quotes from the Trump campaign. “Social Experiment” but Shane mentioning Alice Island easily made his argument shaky.
@DegenAF
@DegenAF 2 ай бұрын
You mean Ellis Island? Which didn't make his argument shaky if you have any understanding of American History. The United States has a history of anti-immigration sentiment, which after years of mass migration through Ellis Island, led to the Immigration Act of 1924. It heavily restricted immigration even from Europe, and established quotas that limited the amount of people who could immigrate to the US legally. I am not endorsing these policies, but I am merely stating a fact. Electing Donald Trump for anti-migration policies is nothing more than Americans continuing the cycle of our own history.
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
He knows a lot more than you do. Been to the Darien Gap etc. You are just babbling about trump
@johnhenninger1980
@johnhenninger1980 2 ай бұрын
@@DegenAF No, he menat ''Alice in Wonderland''.
@nadademamaditas
@nadademamaditas 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, once Shane mentioned Ellis Island, this guy quickly changed the subject. The point is the US always has been a country of immigrants. The problem is the voting base of the Republican party would not allow common sense immigration reform and prefers to elect a clown that makes ridiculous promises such as " I will deport 10 million immigrants" . We all know how this is going to go down. They're going to do a couple of raids and show the video clips on Fox News to appease the masses, and there will continue to be millions of undocumented immigrants doing the jobs that Americans do not want to do themselves.
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 Ай бұрын
Do you mean ELLIS Island...Phew...
@leohall1337
@leohall1337 2 ай бұрын
and refrain the press ten miles. from the borders
@leohall1337
@leohall1337 2 ай бұрын
we don't let the in war zones. this a warzone. keep track of anyone from Europe. and especially foreign immigrants closely watched... longer times t becoming citizenzships
@stevebeschakis9775
@stevebeschakis9775 2 ай бұрын
"Think tank" = propaganda mill.
@DeecentAnimal
@DeecentAnimal 2 ай бұрын
Wow it is WAY too fxking late to switch gears VICE unbelievable 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@rossanthony6403
@rossanthony6403 2 ай бұрын
25:16 I don’t know the why, but I have to say that the Democrat base definitely does not want an “open border”; this second guest, Judd, doesn’t sound like an expert by making such a ridiculous claim. From what I’ve read, the progressive immigration policy wonks - many of them from the Sanders camp - have ideals with woefully unintended consequences… but also, there are lots of states that need low skill workers, especially when the economy is growing as it has been since the pandemic
@wewoweewoo
@wewoweewoo 2 ай бұрын
Naw automation gunna kill low skill jobs
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
The base doesn't, but the politicians do.
@mikearanda3533
@mikearanda3533 2 ай бұрын
The only President who ever promoted Amnesty was Reagan...
@OhhCats
@OhhCats 2 ай бұрын
A great guy
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
And we'll never forgive him for it. Tossed away California.
@mattmccallum2007
@mattmccallum2007 2 ай бұрын
Are we just suppose to become a country of 400 million, 450, 500 million? More? When does it end?
@robg5157
@robg5157 2 ай бұрын
We don’t want America to be overpopulated like India and China. With over a billion citizens. Not our problem. Can’t save the world and all the people.
@paradisedreaming6363
@paradisedreaming6363 2 ай бұрын
If Project 2025 becomes a reality in America, yes, the population will soar as birth control and abortion will both become illegal…..so, it would not be overpopulated by immigrants but it will be overpopulated nonetheless……
@KodakKid
@KodakKid 2 ай бұрын
Haha and the world’s population grows too! Oh noooooooo! 😆
@Cosmo1093
@Cosmo1093 2 ай бұрын
Well yeah, that would be a better option than the alternative of population collapse, like we're seeing in Japan, South Korea, and soon China.
@mattmccallum2007
@mattmccallum2007 2 ай бұрын
@@Cosmo1093 so we just overrun our country with Africans and pajeets?
@troyisfilming
@troyisfilming 2 ай бұрын
Well done
@brandonwilliams159
@brandonwilliams159 2 ай бұрын
I'm tired of laws we don't need no damn laws
@GearUp4Alan
@GearUp4Alan 2 ай бұрын
These fiys have never traveled beyond our borders or come from outside the USA, oblivion to the point of view of a migrant, although they come from migrants like most of us. Theyre defining basic concepts that everyone can find out without much border experience. They spent way too much time on the vid. For monetization purposes. The issues are simple but we choose to ignore them: our population growth rate is flat, our kids are having dogs and cats as kids and not having real kids, so WE NEED migrants to keep up with meeting our economic growth goals. As a former CBP employee I can atest that the real issue is that congress has kept from reforming the immigration processes in place to really be able to select the best part of the candidates and shut the unskilled ones or ones with dirty backgrounds, but for this to happen, the rest of tue world has to have a good background system in place first, and here is where the funds should go to as intl aid. My two cents.
@GearUp4Alan
@GearUp4Alan 2 ай бұрын
@34:15 YES we need immigration reform to avoid stalling our growth in a formal way
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried 2 ай бұрын
Although I would add that we also need unskilled labor to do the menial and physically demanding jobs like harvesting crops that Americans refuse to do or are incapable of doing due to physical demands.
@inaeckhard1439
@inaeckhard1439 2 ай бұрын
People who did not like high prices are forgetting that it was the corporate greed that raised prices for profit. Undocumented people work in farms and if these people are deported, food prices will go up. These undocumented people paid 97 billion in taxes in 2022 via ITN number where taxes are deducted by employer, money that went to top up Social Security and Medicare despite they themselves are not eligible for Social Security.
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 2 ай бұрын
@@IMSiegfried A country may permit temporary seasonal workers with a work visa that provides no pathway to citizenship. Plenty of countries do so. Who do you think is picking Australia's fruit and veg? If may be Americans won't do the job because the pay isn't worth it. It may be that these foreign workers keep wages in certain segments of the economy depressed.
@JerzCe73
@JerzCe73 Ай бұрын
@@IMSiegfried The Bracero Program was a federally-sponsored program that allowed Mexican workers to work in the United States on short-term contracts. The program was created to address labor shortages during World War II and lasted from 1942 to 1964. The program included a series of agreements between the U.S. and Mexican governments that guaranteed certain protections for the workers:
@davidjohnson4682
@davidjohnson4682 2 ай бұрын
Why would they think they could come here and take our jobs with no repercussions from us and speak their language and then Joe ignores the fact American people have their own culture and if that’s messed up there’s gonna be big trouble
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried 2 ай бұрын
"never before in our history" ...Odd because when I googled it I read that there were 14 million immigrants in the US back in the 70s as but one example.
@EagleEye-MJG
@EagleEye-MJG 2 ай бұрын
Prior to September 11, 2001 there was NO PHYSICAL BARRIER at all. . There were towns that literally straddled the border and people walked back & forth.... commerce was built in these areas, based on this openness. . These people are fabricating a convenient version of history, with the Southern Border to fit a political narrative.
@fartsfartington9019
@fartsfartington9019 2 ай бұрын
Shut up! No! Not true! Every second 5000 immigrants do a fentanyl crime! They commit secret crime!
@topfamous297
@topfamous297 Ай бұрын
Never in our history "had so many people been let into the country, without knowing who they are, in such a short span of time".... Read integration issues.
@fartsfartington9019
@fartsfartington9019 Ай бұрын
@IMSiegfried No there wasn't. That's fake Shut up. Stop talking. All the immigrants came in yesterday and I see them everywhere. I've been off my medication for months.
@IMSiegfried
@IMSiegfried Ай бұрын
@topfamous297 Every single immigrant is vetted when they enter the country.
@hardknoxblount
@hardknoxblount Ай бұрын
Wow!!! Is Vice actually doing fair and balanced stories now???
@alinkilpatrick9302
@alinkilpatrick9302 2 ай бұрын
Mr Bensman: I do immigration all day every day as well. It is also my job. And sir, you are wrong. You are are also one of those people who fails to understand immigration policy. People are not being "admitted" at the border. A person of your education and experience should now better than to say such a thing. See 8 USC §1101 13A which defines admission- it requires a lawful entry. Therefore, CBP is not "accepting and admitting eveyone" like you allege at min 6 to report to ICE later. The word 'admission" requires a lawful entry sunject to inspection. Border patrol serves Notices to Appear in Immigration Court for those who entered to appear and answer to charges of unlawful entry. Words matter. You are a journalist. Use them correctly. The point of this rant is to demonstrate that no one, no matter how much of an expert the individual purports to be - knows what they are talking about with regard to immigration, particularly when, as here, the speaker provides a lot general descriptions and personal anecdotes. It is just not the case that everyone who gets here gets in. Go do some interviews in detention.
@NWforager
@NWforager 2 ай бұрын
what are the criteria for not getting in and being detained ? what happens with the detainees ?
@Kogen123
@Kogen123 2 ай бұрын
A ton of people are able to get in falsely claiming asylum when they are here for economic reasons. If we open our doors to the entire world, the country will be destroyed.
@myparceltape1169
@myparceltape1169 2 ай бұрын
Just as immigrants we don't expect are admitted once on British soil and told to wait a few years while a decision is made about them. If they can be located.
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
Why was there an app for non citizens to schedule appointments then?
@Kogen123
@Kogen123 2 ай бұрын
They are admitting everyone who claims "asylum" without any evidence when it's obvious they are here for economic reasons.
@rm26367
@rm26367 2 ай бұрын
Fix the asylum policies as well. We need a unified immigration policy. If democrats are going to break the Trump policy and changes, then what is the point?
@rahulat85
@rahulat85 2 ай бұрын
A law can't be quashed by executive order. If republicans pass a law, then it will be hard for new government to quash it. President Trump issued many directives through executive order like other presidents. Signing law requires bringing something which acceptable to majority. This time President Trump came with strong legislative support so I think things may be different this time. Let's see.
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy Ай бұрын
​@@rahulat85I hope so!
@JoshAronoff
@JoshAronoff 2 ай бұрын
I thought Vice went bankrupt.
@Robert-xe7bp
@Robert-xe7bp 2 ай бұрын
This guy from VICE is so clearly a Dem supporter.
@steved1438
@steved1438 2 ай бұрын
You mean he doesn't support an ex-president billionaire, supported by the richest man in the world (who also happens to be one of the pentagon's largest defense contractors)- who pretend they AREN'T 'insiders' or 'the elite'? Welcome to the Oligarchic Idiocrasy 2024! Orwell was 40 years off but man. We got there at last!
@checkeredcheese
@checkeredcheese Ай бұрын
“They have almost a 90-100% chance of making it” - what does that even mean 😂
@Kevs_a_dawg
@Kevs_a_dawg 2 ай бұрын
Get em’ outta here.
@UppersDownersAllarounders
@UppersDownersAllarounders Ай бұрын
Respect to Shane
@theblondeone8426
@theblondeone8426 2 ай бұрын
Im a nurse (Bachelors) and I was literally replaced last year by filipino nurses…who paid 10% of what I paid for school and have no student loans….My hospital brought them in by the hundreds postpandemic and now theres no overtime, raises, extra pay/benefits at all! So I am now completely antiimmigrant and will prob remain so the rest of my life…(and Im a democrat) but Im glad Trump won. Remember. - Rome fell partially from inside, partially from outside. And if you dont like ur own country - then fix it! Oh, and they dont fit in with our staff, they sit and talk in Tagolog all night to each other, something Ive never seen before with any other nurses. Myself and many other nurses couldnt stand it plus it was unsafe so we left. (The filipino nurses have so much on the line with their jobs, visas, they wont risk it to speak up for safety which is required as a nurse.) Is this the environement you want ur mom taken care of in??
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you’ve directed your ire in the wrong direction. The problem you describe is a healthcare labor issue more than an immigration problem. Also, how did hospitals “bring in” these Philippine nurses? Was it under their auspices? Because that would need some kind of government approval. There’s a lot of holes in your story for me to believe the problem is the immigration system and not the labor/healthcare system.
@2dub2steady
@2dub2steady 2 ай бұрын
@@jeanniep1003 you could not be less informed
@jeanniep1003
@jeanniep1003 2 ай бұрын
@@2dub2steadyand you obviously have difficulty comprehending the written word, the fact that I asked questions implies I’m not wholly knowledgeable about the subject posted by the OP. I don’t claim to know everything, nor do I cast judgment on others about their knowledge like you did here, albeit wrong!
@2dub2steady
@2dub2steady 2 ай бұрын
@@jeanniep1003 Both of your comments are judgemental on their face. Calling my reading comprehension into question adds to my argument. You used "auspices" entirely out of context. No person close to you has the balls to tell you that you are entirely insufferable and frequently wrong. I can tell by your writing style that you see yourself as having high intellectual capital, but let's face it. You need to get high, laid or both. Be nice to people.
@Buckaroo1971
@Buckaroo1971 2 ай бұрын
Working in healthcare through COVID-19 as a healthcare provider in the ER (nurse practitioner), I had the opportunity to work with a wide variety of nurses. Filipino nurses are some of the best med-surg and ICU nurses I have ever worked with. They are reliable, kind, caring, and efficient. Filipino nursing schools are on par with US programs. Further, the Filipino nurses I had the pleasure of working with are some of the most teamwork oriented nurses I have ever worked with. One phrase you will never hear from a Filipino nurse is "it's not my job". The overwhelming majority of US educated nurses are equally amazing. This country has a nursing shortage. We need all the help we can get. If you lost your job to an equally educated RN with similar experience and you were not terminated for a disciplinary problem, your issue is with your former employer, not a Filipino RN here doing good work. If this is a problem in your area or with your hospital system, I would suggest a phone call with a nursing labor union. You are taking out your anger on the wrong people. Your fight is with corporate America, not good Filipino nurses who choose to speak their native language amongst their friends.
@Malikwaseem-p6m
@Malikwaseem-p6m 15 күн бұрын
L on
@borninvincible
@borninvincible 2 ай бұрын
America's fall into fascism is nearly complete and the American people love it.
@jryland6
@jryland6 2 ай бұрын
THIS WOMAN ISN’T HAPPY ABOUT IT, AT ALL!!!!! IN FACT, I’M PRETTY D*** ANGRY ABOUT IT!!!!!! THE MAGA CULT DID IT!!!
@wrathofgrothendieck
@wrathofgrothendieck 2 ай бұрын
Capitalism has made it this way, good old fashioned fascism will take it away
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
If Trump is such a fascist (lie told by the media), then why did all the political leaders around the world congratulate him?
@gagamba9198
@gagamba9198 2 ай бұрын
'Things I dislike are fascism.' Read Giovanni Gentile and you'll find what you think is fascism isn't fascism.
@NJRB23
@NJRB23 2 ай бұрын
​@@gagamba9198 The fact that they label him as a "threat" and try and suppress him too is ironic
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