THIS STUDENT SWITCHED TO LEAGUE AND DROPPED FROM DIAMOND TO IRON...

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NEACE

NEACE

Күн бұрын

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@caolanmcivor2819
@caolanmcivor2819 Жыл бұрын
The line of scrimmage reference is absolutely golden. Definitely something to keep in mind in all games
@omgsmsteel
@omgsmsteel Жыл бұрын
I wish every my f*cking jungler watches those 3 mins. And i'm emerald2...
@jonasemborg177
@jonasemborg177 Жыл бұрын
@@omgsmsteel u realize it goes both ways though right? You are or at least ADC/MID the ones to move this line of scrimmage, to make a play. Not saying drake is the play here. but if ur monster fed jungler pings drake from golems here. You better already be moving that line, before he arrives.
@omgsmsteel
@omgsmsteel Жыл бұрын
@@jonasemborg177 yes it goes both ways, but it's not the absolute rule. I mean, it WOULD NOT be possible to push and move in every game scenario possible. But yes, if jun pings me ahead his plan (yeah, 1% of them probably in masters+ lmao) then if the game state allows me to do it i will as a mid/adc. But if i just pushed and i'm 10% hp and 1% mana Ahri mid i will fucking recall and jun will be collapsed by enemy mid that just farmed 3 waves and has 90% resources and i will ping all of that but if he does this anyway well f them.
@ultimacloud3454
@ultimacloud3454 Жыл бұрын
Wow the line of scrimmage thing was pure gold ... I never thought of that ... and what issues I was causing for my teammates by playing over the line and doing things too far out. Thank you NEACE for that golden advice.
@jhomastefferson3693
@jhomastefferson3693 Жыл бұрын
I check out your videos every once in a while. I know a lot of people shit on you for being angry/toxic during coaching. I don't fault you for that. The game is hard and toxic and induces anger. I also know that a lot of people shit on you for the price of your coaching. I do think it's a little high and wish I could get it but I won't pay that. I also know people gave you shit over having an account with a stuck rank. I empathize. People have said shit to me like "playing since 2013 and still gold. Yikes" and it sucks to get rank shamed. I'm glad you're still out here, neace. And i love that you acknowledged in a short how teemo is a lot harder than he seems. Keep on with it, man.
@GandalfTheSilver
@GandalfTheSilver Жыл бұрын
Saw your tweet just now. My heart goes out to you brother. I don't know if you're into meditating or have tried meditating, but it's helped me a lot in some rough spots. Take all the time you need to reset.
@BabiCaxes
@BabiCaxes Жыл бұрын
“F that guy he can die in the pit alone . I’m tryna carry this game myself” Next sentence : “ this is a team game right?”
@daddydeath9135
@daddydeath9135 Жыл бұрын
I think he picked up what you were teaching pretty fast and starting trying to utilize it through out the game. I'd bet gold 3 atleast
@ChiefofPropaganda
@ChiefofPropaganda Жыл бұрын
I've consumed a lot of coaching and your explanation of " offence/defense " is so helpful
@CapnClutch08
@CapnClutch08 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the follow-up session with this guy. The line of scrimmage tip was super enlightening. And I don't even play league anymore 😅 not since the OG days of like 2010
@JonnyBoi12
@JonnyBoi12 Жыл бұрын
"What's your goal at the game?" "To figure out how to get better " 😂
@TimmehTRP
@TimmehTRP Жыл бұрын
Not that weird of an answer isn't it? That's kind of my goal too. Peaked master last season and know I won't ever get to grandmaster, so I'm just "learning" roles & champions for the fun of it.
@hdkonvick6299
@hdkonvick6299 Жыл бұрын
As a laner, the most annoying thing is when your jungler shoves the wave when he is not supposed to. And when you flame him he says "chill man, just 1 wave" they have no idea how much this 1 wave actually matters in early game. You can snowball 1 wave lead to be 12 wave lead worth of gold if you play well.
@marinmarinhola
@marinmarinhola Жыл бұрын
Flaming is still not the answer and is counter productive. I'm a plat jungler and the second I read a negative comment, I insta mute. Not going to deal with someone's tantrum, even if technically they are correct
@zekrom6537
@zekrom6537 3 ай бұрын
@@marinmarinhola yes instead should say nicely like: dude dont do this again cause now you ruin the wave state so i cant farm and fall behind
@joshuasoulliere7573
@joshuasoulliere7573 3 ай бұрын
not a long time viewer or anything, but ive watched a lot of your videos. this, i think, is the best one so far. super informative and helpful, but still entertaining. hope all is well nowadays
@stalliondave9338
@stalliondave9338 Жыл бұрын
Had a fresh account start in low bronze a while ago. The words "what is he doing" is the thing you say the most. Funnily enough it was the most fun solo games I ever had. Kind of wish I never climbed on that one
@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel
@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel Жыл бұрын
Bro I play JG and some of the funniest moments are talking to yourself while seeing some dumb shit happen 🤣🤣🤣 "It's fiesta time"
@stalliondave9338
@stalliondave9338 Жыл бұрын
@@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel lol yeah I wss crying laughing sometimes. Need to get another account going I think lol
@do__ob
@do__ob Жыл бұрын
Seriously tho this shaco must have been high or something. He looked like he was always trying to bait you to kill his clone, just wandering around not using abilities or attacking, and then it turned out it was not his clone, it was just him being dumb.
@stalliondave9338
@stalliondave9338 Жыл бұрын
@@do__ob wonder if he was literally just blazing up. Or maybe 6 years old or something lol
@markthree
@markthree Жыл бұрын
Other than mechanics, my take is: 1. He's new to the game and is playing one of the most impactful roles 2. Every champion takes a long time to master, but with viego turning into other characters he has to at least know the basics of 160 champions. By level 50 most people haven't played against all champions, especially since he is one tricking viego. The only practice he gets with those champions is when he controllers them for 5 seconds once or twice a game. 3. Heroes of the storm doesn't have a dedicated jg apparently, I haven't played but I feel that if he played top at least it would be more similar and he could use some more knowledge. I started playing jg at level 30 myself so I'm not judging, just sharing my thoughts.
@Cudderx
@Cudderx Жыл бұрын
ive been watching your vids for a while now and this seasons split started bronze 1 currently plat 3 and ranked 13 NA on xayah. offense and defense was one of the biggest eye openers
@eeyun5279
@eeyun5279 Жыл бұрын
What does “ranked NA on xayah” mean? Does one of the tracking sites track highest ranks of people who main a champ or something?
@thelanternexpress9371
@thelanternexpress9371 Жыл бұрын
No offense, but how can you be #13 on Xayah in NA but ur Plat.... by definition, any Xayah player Diamond+ is better than you.
@robe2029
@robe2029 Жыл бұрын
@@thelanternexpress9371 hes rank 13 in plat 3. Each division ranks you by LP
@louiswilson1374
@louiswilson1374 Жыл бұрын
@@robe2029 it does but never in a decade of league have I seen anyone include there actual LP when telling rank unless they're master/grandmaster LP
@Cudderx
@Cudderx Жыл бұрын
@@thelanternexpress9371 I’m ranked higher than a lot of masters and GMs on there at the moment. I’m not tryna brag or boast bjust neace vids helped the game click in my brain. And since it clicked I’ve been winning back to back
@Magisean11
@Magisean11 Жыл бұрын
“How did you get into iron?” *my placements this split: 3/5 wins* *Iron 1 27LP*
@wc4260
@wc4260 Жыл бұрын
sounds like you were iron last split bro...
@MilkyCamps
@MilkyCamps Жыл бұрын
i went 0-5 and got silver 1 and won 1 game and got instantly promoted to gold lol at 1-5. its how MMR works. you are in iron becuase you deserve to be there
@pairlover839
@pairlover839 Жыл бұрын
the start of split 1 i got placed in iron 1, dropped down to iron 2 but climbed all the way to silver 3 (68 lp) at my peak and finished silver 4(48 lp) at the end of split 1. Cus i kinda trolled near towards the end. split 2 i went 5 wins 0 loses in placements and got silver 4 (58 lp) so what u get placed in mostly depends on what rank u got last season and also ur win rate last season, i had a 54 winrate last season ending at 52% at the end and thats why i was placed silver 4 58 lp while going 5-0 so u probably were bronze 4 or iron 1 last season if i had to guess
@Magisean11
@Magisean11 Жыл бұрын
@@wc4260 mid bronze but yeah, pretty new and pretty satisfied with that result :)
@Magisean11
@Magisean11 Жыл бұрын
@@MilkyCamps yeah for sure lol, working on it though!
@Stanzbey69
@Stanzbey69 9 ай бұрын
This coaching sesh made me finally understand wave management, and it’s for a jungle coaching sesh. Gold 1 now, started silver 1 :)
@obscuraz
@obscuraz Жыл бұрын
Lmfao! "We are NOT ganking that! Ignore!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that had me rollin 😂😂😂😂
@ragnarmeh8156
@ragnarmeh8156 Жыл бұрын
Bro those 20 first seconds made me feel so guilty, goddamit I had to sub. I only watch these at work when I have time but I guess I gotta do what I gotta do
@demetrius3581
@demetrius3581 Жыл бұрын
My wife said "I can't help but notice you haven't been watching the nephew lately" I was like what are you talking about, she said "neace" 😭😭😭😂😂😂
@brendenpleasant6412
@brendenpleasant6412 Жыл бұрын
I don’t usually comment on videos - just wanted to say I love watching you. Keep up the good work my man !
@maxamiliousjungledifferilious
@maxamiliousjungledifferilious 5 ай бұрын
after watching neace I went from platinum 4 1lp 12 times removed to iron 3 thank you neace
@josephsmith7023
@josephsmith7023 11 ай бұрын
I'm only about 10 minutes into this video. My first thoughts as to why he's in iron is champion selection. Viego requires so much game knowledge to be good on and to add to that he's on Jungle role one of the most macro intense positions. These two things will certainly accelerate the client's knowledge gathering, but it's gonna put him on a losing streak almost guaranteed until his game knowledge catches up.
@derbestimmer1148
@derbestimmer1148 Жыл бұрын
In HotS it all comes down to playing your 4 or 5 man like one champ regarding the kits. You do that you win the team fights, winning the objectives,winning the map. Things like him not knowing how to approach on a gank or wave manage show the problem with the HotS player base missing out on Moba basics. That together with the problem that you can hardly Solo or Duo carry and the overall Refusal to improve in the Hits Community killed the game alongside the pro scene cancelation.
@YoungsterJoey151
@YoungsterJoey151 Жыл бұрын
I was silver 2 in like 2014. Had 17 ranked losses in a row and quit ranked. Came back to ranked last season and got put in iron. But happy to say I’m now climbing up through bronze thanks to your coaching videos. You’re awesome Neace!!
@blackersock
@blackersock Жыл бұрын
bruhhh im hardstuck in iron. my teammates genuinely int every single time
@peterpieterssen36
@peterpieterssen36 Жыл бұрын
Once you stop lying to yourself and blaming your teammates who are literal iron players just like yourself you can easily get to silver-gold
@blackersock
@blackersock Жыл бұрын
@@peterpieterssen36 no no. trust me. it’s actually them. i play with my friend watching as my intrusive thoughts. and no matter what I do someone always finds a way to throw. i can take accountability when inmake mistakes but i don’t intentionally throw the game. plus i play supp. im supposed to be getting carried
@peterpieterssen36
@peterpieterssen36 Жыл бұрын
@@blackersock Yeah no. You're the only person who is in every single one of your games. If you're unable to climb then you're the problem you're just in denial.
@babblestorm123
@babblestorm123 29 күн бұрын
Think of it like this. Statistically, the guys on the enemy team are no better than your team mates. You're the only consistent variable across all of your games. Also, even if you are 1-2 tiers lower than you should be, if you have a 55% win rate, that means you need to play 100 games just to win 5 more than you lose. That's what most league players don't realise. The game is designed to be a grind, and all low elo players focus on are the 45 games they lose.
@Nightdweller54
@Nightdweller54 Жыл бұрын
It’s not necessarily bad but for a newer player I think champion selection is super important. And maybe there were parts of the coaching that were edited out but to allow the student to play Viego isn’t the best choice just simply due to lack of champion knowledge. You have to have a basic understanding of all champion abilities. If you don’t you will fail as a viego player. I would not let a newer iron player play something that requires so much knowledge. Play other champions to learn the game so you know what they do and then teach viego. I think teaching a new player to play Warwick would be far more beneficial than trying to have them learn every champion in the game when they are new.
@hansjones5708
@hansjones5708 Жыл бұрын
39:40 what he should do is start warding. Putting a ward above where he is pushing isn’t gonna kill him and besides he still has all his wards from start…
@robthedude4861
@robthedude4861 Жыл бұрын
I'm playing wild rift and maining Pantheon in mid/jungle roles and got to Gold 2 but since then I dropped down to Gold 4. I suck.
@iamthejustin7420
@iamthejustin7420 Жыл бұрын
Iron is so low, its MORE EXPENSIVE to purchase an Iron account than a Bronze and Silver account. I personally tried to derank to Iron I lose 2 lp per game in BRonze 1 like how? And its like impossible to lose.
@Callmephobia
@Callmephobia Жыл бұрын
Please tell me why I started playing this game 3 weeks ago and learn off your videos tbh. Coming from Immortal and master player in Valorant and Apex this game has been fun thanks for the tips!
@ansonlau1141
@ansonlau1141 Жыл бұрын
same, i migrated from apex about a year ago and i now i only play league, i made it to around plat. League is so competitive, like so much so that it rewards you more than any other game for doing well. Love apex, but league took me…
@Callmephobia
@Callmephobia Жыл бұрын
@@ansonlau1141 yes
@anthonyg6083
@anthonyg6083 Жыл бұрын
Student definitely has potential. If they continue doing what they did this game, ez
@AbandonedKittyLiter
@AbandonedKittyLiter Жыл бұрын
The shaco... that's my team every game. 🙃
@bradleymoore2797
@bradleymoore2797 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to cs in heroes of the storm do you? Xp/gold is all shared by the team regardless of where you are too right?
@sgtpatton
@sgtpatton Жыл бұрын
I did 2 placement matches when i first started playing (and lost) did placements fully the next year and it started me in iron from game 1, think it was season 10 iirc
@iamthejustin7420
@iamthejustin7420 Жыл бұрын
I've done Vayne top to Diamond. Believe me, playing Vayne top is NOT easier than playing Garen top to Diamond. Especially if you end up facing a Malphite. Shen top is the easiest to get to Diamond with. I cannot count how many times, I win my bot lane, by simply clicking an ult, BOOM Bot lane won.
@82Dpaige
@82Dpaige Жыл бұрын
Hay man, I’m trying to do set up a coaching session with you, but it seems like your website isn’t working. Is there an email I can message to get a hold of you to schedule a perfect time?
@hansjones5708
@hansjones5708 Жыл бұрын
I’m trying to go iron 4 -100LP, it’s harder than climbing
@Ducklesswonder
@Ducklesswonder Жыл бұрын
Dudes account is only 56. He should just buy a fresh 30 account and play as he did and he’d be high silver at least. His mmr is ranked right now it’ll be much easier to climb fresh because there’s nothing to salvage on this account (not like he has 100 skins or anything)
@ShenlongNA
@ShenlongNA Жыл бұрын
this client was actually not that bad for a new player hope he climbs and gets to the elo he wants.
@Jakomaniac1
@Jakomaniac1 Жыл бұрын
This guy can easily get gold if he looks over this vid and apply that shiz
@kittytooth704
@kittytooth704 Жыл бұрын
This guy would lose it if he saw how i played
@brandongonzalez7427
@brandongonzalez7427 Жыл бұрын
Been watching your coaching content on youtube just climbed a whole division silver to gold in a week jamming kai'sa
@niopi1358
@niopi1358 Жыл бұрын
Peeping teemo!
@matthewoconnor3196
@matthewoconnor3196 Жыл бұрын
Best coach
@PrinnyLordNinjocity
@PrinnyLordNinjocity Жыл бұрын
I think he’s got it with time, kinda makes me wanna start grinding ranked rn.
@googloocraft1217
@googloocraft1217 Жыл бұрын
35min28 the video as little segment that repeat
@mateoparamod9953
@mateoparamod9953 Жыл бұрын
Guess we gonna finish mauw first lol
@310techrepair6
@310techrepair6 Жыл бұрын
Been playing for years and im still IRON ... FAWK
@sportrider89
@sportrider89 Жыл бұрын
Not that hard to get to iron....just play bronze you'll give up 15 games to inters and afks.
@kitooro7361
@kitooro7361 Жыл бұрын
lol im iron 2
@The_Aspired
@The_Aspired Жыл бұрын
bonka
@xiariser-213
@xiariser-213 Жыл бұрын
I find the intro to be lacking a real understanding of the beginner experience. It is honestly not that hard to get into Iron. Whats borderline impossible is getting back out again. It is extremely difficult once you are iron, to climb out of it. And even if you do succeed, the next 10 game placement will put you back in iron 1. I had to climb out of iron 3 when I started, got to silver, went 8/10 in the new season placements, and it placed me way back in iron again. The iron games are very tough, regardless of how well you play, there will always be games where you have to do and be capable of doing literally everything. And you have to be playing a champion capable of doing literally everything. games will feature a heartsteal Mundo 45 minutes unkillable, like we see in the end here. It's common. It's normal. There will be some unkillable tank that does more damage than you entire team combined.
@kcal12
@kcal12 Жыл бұрын
hard doubt
@zekrom6537
@zekrom6537 3 ай бұрын
because you dont play heroes that can 1 v 9 carry thats why you hardstuck on iron, pick 1 champ learn it very very well play 90% of your ranked games as that champ and the remaining 10% is if it gets banned, taken, or if you autofilled other role, if you master 1 carry champ then you can very very easily get out of iron or any other rank, you need to be kinda a 1trick to carry the lows of iron 😂😂 of course it would be best to have this 1 go to pick that can solo carry but stil have a 2nd pick in your pocket so like be extremely good at 1 and semi good at a second pick, when its autofill well thats though but you can have your carry champ to be someone that can do multiple roles maybe, if you stuck in iron even after months then its clear that you doing something wrong
@dziosdzynes7663
@dziosdzynes7663 Жыл бұрын
there's no way one can reach diamond in hots and not at least diamond in lol. hots is just so much more complicated and difficult
@sugero9322
@sugero9322 Жыл бұрын
eh. Different game Diff priorities I was Diamond in hots but there's no one that plays like my main so I'm feeling kinda stuck in plat in lol
@geminirox8635
@geminirox8635 Жыл бұрын
I'm masters in hots and i've peaked plat in league. Hots is a much less mechanically demanding game, and there may be a lot more going on in any given game but I don't think that means its harder. League is a lot more punishing of your mistakes and the laning phase of league is way more complicated than hots. Good macro in hots is enough to win most of your games, but in league you really need to macro and micro. There's also something to be said about League players just being better at league than hots players are at hots. League has been out a lot longer and has a lot more educational content than hots.
@NihilHS
@NihilHS Жыл бұрын
@@geminirox8635 I mean is there more going on in HotS? I don't think so. There are more maps but they all wind up equating to "team fight here, winner gets a push" with a few exceptions (like winner gets a nuke that does structure damage or winner gets coins that they can turn in... to do structure damage). It makes macro boil down to early game soak and go to objectives as 5, late game deathball as 5.
@dziosdzynes7663
@dziosdzynes7663 Жыл бұрын
@@geminirox8635 league is literally 1/10th as in-depth as hots is. its just way slower but w/e. also you peaking plat isnt reason that lol is harder lmfao
@geminirox8635
@geminirox8635 Жыл бұрын
@@dziosdzynes7663 you just said theres no way to be diamond in hots but not in league. I'm higher than diamond in hots and lower than diamond in league. That's literally all i was pointing out.
@nosehair805
@nosehair805 Жыл бұрын
imagine this comment got 100+ likes
@CarnageUndone
@CarnageUndone Жыл бұрын
Not happening
@glenndiddy
@glenndiddy Жыл бұрын
2 of my friends have been placed in Iron 2. I don't even know what they did to be placed that low. One of them used to be high plat, so he must have really deboosted his MMR somehow
@MrLinkDay
@MrLinkDay Жыл бұрын
I've been playing league since 2013, I reached like high gold/plat in 2016, but didn't play ranked at all in 2017 or 2018 due to college. Went back to it in 2019, and my placements were at iron 2 or something, although by the end of bo10 I was like at bronze 1. This mmr reset happens if you don't play for a season or more I guess.
@NELTIofficial
@NELTIofficial Жыл бұрын
I got similar situation for some stupid reason I just hard carries every game and eventually I got to plat
@fragglerocker8316
@fragglerocker8316 Жыл бұрын
I have a three accounts, one is my main account that I play with friends on, the second is my ranked account, and the third is my "hide from friends" ranked account that I only created in the last 5 months. I am D4 on my normal account and when I went to get my new account ranked I won 6/10 and got placed Iron. Let me tell you, that is not where you want to end up lol. I played a game with a duo in which they'd both played 34 games and had a 0% WR... you can probably guess, but we did not win. lol. I dont really get the MMR system at all. I play the same role on both with the same champion but have significantly different outcomes.
@DocGames01
@DocGames01 Жыл бұрын
Won 7/10 games, didn't feed at all. Placed iron 2 after 1st game with trolls. Wrote a ticket asking what happened to placing after 10 games? Got no answer, they just closed my ticket. The game has turned to shit. It's Called China's punishment to NA.
@copsarebastards
@copsarebastards Жыл бұрын
@@DocGames01 skill issue
@Digger-Nick
@Digger-Nick Жыл бұрын
This explains why all my teammates in Heroes of the Storm are absolute garbage
@albertcohee7757
@albertcohee7757 Жыл бұрын
Riot needs to lock Viego behind silver/gold Elo or like 500k mastery for ranked. I would bet money that thousands of games per week are thrown by low elo veigo players getting fed and throwing thousands of shutdown gold. Like Boi you don't even know how to play ONE champion, how do they expect to play the champ that requires knowledge on EVERY champion. Like perfect example: bro doesn't even know about shaco Q and it's not like shaco is an uncommon pick.
@TimmehTRP
@TimmehTRP Жыл бұрын
Same could be said for many champions tbh
@Wedcakskacdew
@Wedcakskacdew Жыл бұрын
unique player, you could tell he was good at a simpler moba, and just got lost lols depth
@copsarebastards
@copsarebastards Жыл бұрын
agreed, they started to pick things up pretty quickly, the potential is clearly there like decently challenging role viego is maybe not super easy compared to like amumu or something, idk, I was impressed.
@premiumfruits3528
@premiumfruits3528 Жыл бұрын
HotS isn't simpler, it's just completely different, a diamond player in LoL would be bottom of the ladder after their HotS placements, don't get it twisted, the flow of the game is a complete 180, everything like pacing, map movement, awareness, wave control, etc...it's all completely different, some of the skills you have for LoL are nonexistent in HotS and HotS has it's own things to replace them that don't exist at all in LoL
@Choopachoopapa
@Choopachoopapa Жыл бұрын
​@premiumfruits3528 It is different though, HotS is objectively simpler, it's known as "baby's first MOBA" for a reason - Not slamming it at all, I honestly actually prefer the comparable simplicity at times haha, and it has different merits that League doesn't, it's no hate man
@bret3925
@bret3925 Жыл бұрын
Idk man was gold, took like 5 seasons off got placed iron 2 when I came back, every split they take my rank and just take 2 to 4 tiers off of my rank even with like 68% win rate 😅 games elo system is bad
@Kevalanium
@Kevalanium Жыл бұрын
A new player shouldnt even be picking up viego at all. Also them E placements are somthing else but at least he wants to learn and get better.
@maxisblazzer3664
@maxisblazzer3664 Жыл бұрын
Alot of people who play hots are hot trash. It's just the blizzard community. And in that game it's a lot easier to not realize that you're the issue.
@christianross2567
@christianross2567 Жыл бұрын
Why is the first thing you told this guy not "don't play viego when you're new because it requires you know the kit of everyone on the enemy team which you probably don't if you're iron" ?
@yggreuyri5822
@yggreuyri5822 Жыл бұрын
He does seem like he knows a lot of champions since he knows how to pilot a niche champion in a dogshit role like Kalista.
@kcal12
@kcal12 Жыл бұрын
because most beginners or low elo players have to think of playing micro correctly, and adding an additional layer of complexity by playing Viego and having to perform on different champs mid teamfights is usually not something beneficial. But this is a general rule, it can vary individually.
@andrewhaskins1763
@andrewhaskins1763 Жыл бұрын
Honestly… iron-gold is nearly the same. I adjusted my playstyles like pinglish and map awareness and better ward placements. Better positioning and knowing when to engage and calculating if it’s better to counter engage just made the game so finite and simple. It is not hard to get out of iron-silver. I do notice the higher the ranking goes some people let go of ego more than the next guy but I still have some stubborn Susans that think they are always right. Good players will admit their mistakes and apologize. I’m in mid plat now and it’s been a lot more chill in the games. Even calling the shots will make a huge difference
@zekrom6537
@zekrom6537 3 ай бұрын
honestly even just watching these could improve many players gameplay so many people miss these points like having all lanes pushed in yet they decide to go do dragon then lanes try help and all dies 😂
@zekrom6537
@zekrom6537 3 ай бұрын
the only thing that annoys me about this player is that he never wanna use his 2 stack of smite so frustrating to watch you even told him several times to use his smite more but he doesnt 😂😂
@jhomastefferson3693
@jhomastefferson3693 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit you tell a jg not to give the enemy laners an xp advantage. Halle fucking lujah. I have had players do this to me. And they dont shove all thw way. And I play top, so it will lead to me getting frozen on. I'm not proud of it, but it has made me tilt hard. Good on you explaining this.
@EVERYTYME
@EVERYTYME Жыл бұрын
Why would a new player choose to play viego?? I would argue he is LITERALLY the worst champ for a genuine new player to try
@ZadenWoW
@ZadenWoW Жыл бұрын
i would absolutely not be paying viego if new to the game, hows he gonna know what half the champs do. get on some easy stat checker like olaf or warwick or atleast a tank jungle.
@dino2274
@dino2274 11 ай бұрын
Idk why but I think you overcomplicate things, sometimes i just cant get a hold of what youre saying, good coaching tho.
@somanaut4512
@somanaut4512 Жыл бұрын
"your d*** was hanging out the corner" THAT'LL BE $350 😂 Been a long time fan of your content. Nice session!
@michaelb.5573
@michaelb.5573 Жыл бұрын
you should check out rewired. shes an austrian streamer and always toxic to teammates, and thinks its her teams fault she is losing lp x'D
@evandroevandrissimo6316
@evandroevandrissimo6316 Жыл бұрын
I got into iron by playing nornal games loosing a bunch and going back to ranked to +12 lp per winn and -30 per loss
@mackinzie
@mackinzie Жыл бұрын
I think his confidence is low and probably needs more games. He seemed really solid inspite of that.
@jon1028
@jon1028 Жыл бұрын
Love the lower elo content, lot of my friends are stuck in that elo so I'm interested in knowing what tips they can have - some of their games seem so unwinnable in iron or bronze from my perspective
@NorseG4m3r
@NorseG4m3r Жыл бұрын
Asking for a friend 😏😏
@MittyNispa
@MittyNispa Жыл бұрын
Iron and bronze games are 100% winnable, knowing base micro/macro will win you the majority of those games, don’t do the simple bullshit low elos do. Fighting all the time, don’t. Towers and objectives. Aram is a sure fire way to lose ranked games.
@MittyNispa
@MittyNispa Жыл бұрын
If you play arc/jg/mid/top get a split push champ in those roles and just afk sidelines when the enemy allows you to do so. Stop playing with your team thinking they know what to do to win. The only time you want to defend is when they’re at your base taking turrets. /mute all and be selfish. Your team is bad, and will spam ping you when they fight 4vX. Their loss on that fight and not yours. They didn’t have to fight/get caught out. All they had to do was clear waves. It’s not rocket science.
@chrismcallister3495
@chrismcallister3495 Жыл бұрын
I find most content creators like neace have a completely warped sense of low elo. They always say they never build correctly, they never ward, never rotate, never gain prio before taking objectives. It's almost always false. It used to be a major difference in the elos 12 years ago. But riot has removed the thinking part of this game systematically over time. Players don't need to have game knowledge anymore. This used to be a huge part of what separated the ladder. The system tells you what to build, what summoners, what runes, what to build against which opponent, when timers and camps come back, when major objectives spawn, how long wards have left. Low elo from silver to Plat has almost no distinguishable characteristics. They play al.ost the same. Low elo rotate, ward, and do coordinated things like dive towers lvl 2. The issue with the ladder is they allow for smurfs, which harm the ladder, they don't punish active trolls but do punish the people who flame the trolls for purposely ruining the game. For you to solo carry a game in low elo you must be 2 tiers higher as a carry than the opponents you are facing. If you are bronze, you must be gold level player to solo carry. Normal people do not possess that large of a distance from their opponents. You can also have a 53% win rate and never climb. When you win 14 lp on a win and lose 18-23 lp on a loss. I have personally experienced a start of the season 10 placements, get placed in bronze 3, win 23 games straight with 26 lp wins, then it goes down to 23, 20, 19. Without losing it drops lp. I lose 2 games and it flips. I then for the rest of the season get 14-16 lp for wins and 17-23 lp for losses. With well over 60% win rates. Somethings is definitely wrong with the system, I blame the intelligence of the devs being so incredibly low today.
@jon1028
@jon1028 Жыл бұрын
@@MittyNispa I finished low plat last season (not high elo i'm just saying this for some idea of my background) so I also agree that iron/bronze are always winnable, but some of my friends who are worse don't have the mechanics to 1v9 or at least 2v8 which is what I see being necessary down that low
@TheGarkk
@TheGarkk Жыл бұрын
Neace have two channels on KZbin? something like lolcoaching?
@sir_quirkus7206
@sir_quirkus7206 6 ай бұрын
It’s extremely easy to get into iron you just have to suck like I do.
@iamn00ne90
@iamn00ne90 Жыл бұрын
Neace casually helping this guy lower his accounts worth.
@victoribarra9973
@victoribarra9973 Жыл бұрын
I was grandmaster in heros of the storm, both games are very different. still hate the farming system in league lol.
@maciejkleszczynski9808
@maciejkleszczynski9808 Жыл бұрын
As both lol and hots player i absolutely agree. Especially about the second part since farming minions is super annoying. Wish LoL changed in those aspects also removing minion stealing or even kill stealing. When i have all my team kills playing something like Reghar in Hots nobody flames me for it but try killing somone as a support in League...
@09Drdray
@09Drdray Жыл бұрын
Veigo probably not the best champ for a new player
@danielmartinsen1
@danielmartinsen1 Жыл бұрын
I got iron 2 when I returned to league a few days ago :(
@jasondewhurst7054
@jasondewhurst7054 Жыл бұрын
shouldnt a diamond know most of this already?
@roelknapen8487
@roelknapen8487 11 ай бұрын
that intro though, subbed just for that
@premiumfruits3528
@premiumfruits3528 Жыл бұрын
HotS has almost nothing in common with with LoL other than the fact that they're both mobas. Like literally nothing from that game transfers. By the same token, if someone in Diamond in LoL went to play HotS, they would immediately be at the bottom of the ladder. Everything is completely different.
@octavioavila6548
@octavioavila6548 Жыл бұрын
I think if someone was Diamond in LoL and went to HotS they would be high elo in HotS pretty quickly because HotS is an easier game. Therefore, the same wouldn’t be true the other way around
@TimmehTRP
@TimmehTRP Жыл бұрын
At 17:30 he just killed a scuttle without using his Q a single time..
@XXxbountyx
@XXxbountyx Жыл бұрын
did he quit the korea climb yet
@demolitioncarebear5462
@demolitioncarebear5462 Жыл бұрын
If he's iron I'm in wood 😢
@nicoseaton4567
@nicoseaton4567 Жыл бұрын
at like 35:25 same clip twice
@EKKAXAY
@EKKAXAY Жыл бұрын
damn hes improving
@Mikk528
@Mikk528 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't already, that whole line of scrimmage bit absolutely needs to be a short. I know way too many players personally who need to understand that concept.
@glenndiddy
@glenndiddy Жыл бұрын
A good thing to remember is, would I let myself die if I was the midlaner. If you answer yes, why the fuck are you doing it then?
@snicklesnockle7263
@snicklesnockle7263 Жыл бұрын
11:29 Does this mean you should never get dragon early game? I feel like dragon would be worth more than a couple minions.
@jaycee6764
@jaycee6764 Жыл бұрын
Great coaching. Just an extra info, at 6mn, the pathing mid is not great, you never ever gank mid from river except if he is at our tower. And if viego were to follow the top wall (herald side) very closely in order to get top side of the river, that would prevent any wards from seeing him
@neutricks
@neutricks Жыл бұрын
Do normal games affect ranked games for mmr? How hard is it to rank up if your mmr is in the gutter from normal play?
@GoatyGoY
@GoatyGoY Жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best videos explaining macro for beginner junglers I've watched.
@michaelwhitt28
@michaelwhitt28 Жыл бұрын
Would love to book a session but I feel like you'd refuse to coach me on locked screen. xD I turn off to look around but fight in locked. Not including like certain ults abilites.
@Kaninjäveln
@Kaninjäveln Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're halfway there.
@chunchunmaru5128
@chunchunmaru5128 Жыл бұрын
Hots >> Lol
@XD-XDXDXDXDXDXD
@XD-XDXDXDXDXDXD Жыл бұрын
1 month before the split i was bronze 3 after that i start watching your vids because i liked them and i learned so much and memorized everything I learned in my games to the point where i was gold 4 1 day before the split and now after the split with only 14 wins i am gold 1 going to plat thank you so much continue the good work ❤
@yiannisfinikas1048
@yiannisfinikas1048 Жыл бұрын
Ty neace I learn so many new things just by watching this video
@edwingee3628
@edwingee3628 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting for all the coaches to be like every patch do like a review like a panel
@АлександрСмирнов-н7д1я
@АлександрСмирнов-н7д1я 9 ай бұрын
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