This Switch Controller is a Dock | The Nitro Deck+

[@JakeSteinberg]

Hoping all these grip/controller things carry their knowledge forward to Switch 2!

[@terpfen]

The Switch 2's dimensions are supposedly 206 x 115 x 14 mm. If true, these dock-type controllers won't work with Switch 2. Joycon replacements should still work. That said, it's not like your Switch will die and stop working the second the Switch 2 releases.

[@emperorfaiz]

@@terpfenI'm more concerned if the third-party companies will made similar accessories for Switch 2 in its first or second year instead of at sixth or seventh year.

[@terpfen]

@@emperorfaizThey will get accessories on the market as close to the Switch 2's release as possible. That goes without saying. The question is if Switch 1 accessories are compatible, and there is indication that they will be.

[@tippedjoshua6802]

@@terpfenI think he means that he hopes there will still be similar things like this for the switch 2

[@fennsk]

Seems like an amazing feature for regular business travelers. Nice handheld mode for planes with dock built in for hotel rooms. Alongside the gaming you get to easily stream KZbin and Hulu on the TV, too. Doubt it's an enormous hit at this stage of the Switch's lifecycle, but could be really good for the right consumer.

[@Jahranimo_]

Nice Edit: This definitely seems like a good improvement but i don't know if buying another peripheral like this so late into the Switch is worth it for me. Doubling as a dock is super cool though! Thanks for the video Kevin

[@shepistired]

This would have been nice in the beginning of the switch's lifecycle not the end. As is, I can't really justify a new controller at this point Edit: Also not super happy with this company after they tried to cash in on the NFT trend with their first launch, and with their attempts at artificial scarcity

[@chipskylark8869]

I had a blue red switch and bought a zelda oled one and I don't know why...

[@JM-pm1yb]

I remember reading similar comments when the original came out.

[@warrenbadze]

The ps vita is still alive ... So the switch is just going through its falcon stage .. its burnt down .. now its waiting to rise again

[@helloitsdjwill]

They never actually did NFTs, they just had like "digital trading cards." I assumed that was a weird way to say NFT, but it was a completely different thing. It was just a way to digitally display your collection of Nitro Decks or other products from the company.

[@Eskoxo]

it’s kind of like gpu companies making new water blocks for 4090 when new ones about to come out.

[@jarathen1625]

What I would give for Satisfye’s ergonomics with this whole controller swap approach.

[@jamerv777smerf]

I have a switch grip lol solid af.

[@willwidrick8039]

I really appreciate your honest review

[@metalliholic]

After getting the Nitro Deck and the + I find it really hard going back to the joycons or even pro controller since it doesn't have back buttons

[@gabe5918]

8bitdo pro2 is GODLY if you want back buttons and custom loadouts for multiple games/playstyles.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

@@gabe59188bitdo also looks better than this thing or the stock Nintendo controller and Goycons.

[@daddykarlmarx6183]

You need to try the steam deck then, best controller of all time just built into the console

[@gabe5918]

@@daddykarlmarx6183 i own one and yeah its just as comfy as the others. Layout takes a lil time to get used to but i dont rly like the face buttons.

[@metalliholic]

@@daddykarlmarx6183 I got a steam deck too. Definitely a lot more comfy. But also wider.

[@DcProfDenzel]

Every time I watch his switch accessories/controller vids, I get more confused on which one to get for myself. Thanks a lot Kevin. 😅.

[@moe282]

The chance of me supporting this company twice is about 0%.

[@marlowencna]

Y? Is there a recent customer (after sales) shitshow?

[@Antisympathy]

@@marlowencnaprobably because they used their early buyers as beta testers for their first nitro deck product without the customer knowledge that their company were going to release a better version so soon after feedback from everyone who purchased so many suffered from fomo or just purchased the regular version when the company released the plus. At least that’s what I’ve gathered from the comments when watching their nitro deck plus release videos and reviews from nitro deck buyers.👀

[@DatRedBoy242]

I bought the first one and it didn’t work with my OLED. Got a replacement and it didn’t work either. Customer Service was fine but I’m not taking a chance again with this product.

[@letsmakepancakes3]

@@DatRedBoy242did you put it in wired controller mode? I’ve had 4 and love them all and had no issues. Most times I see people have issues they didn’t set it up properly.

[@DatRedBoy242]

@@letsmakepancakes3 according to CRKD they say I have a USB-C tolerance issue that came from a manufacturing inconsistency at the Nintendo factory. So because of that my OLED will never work with the ND. So I would have to buy a new switch and hope it doesn’t have the same issue and I’m not doing that. No way. The Mobapad 6 HD works just fine for me.

[@KrimsonWing]

I kinda wish they'd do a trade in program... I bought the old version a week before they announced this and I was kinda upset. I sucked it up and ended up loving it anyway but man still feels kinda bad.

[@danieleberly9629]

No need for a trade in program when you could have just returned the original when they announced the new one

[@oksure5963]

After watching multiple review for the plus version, you'd be glad that you made that purchase

[@quag311]

I see Switch accessory video, I click. I don’t care if it’s 8 years old.

[@trey_a_12]

Like most others, I’d have loved this at the start of the Switch era but not this close to the end, but I commended that on their Instagram saying I’d probably be interested in whatever they make for its successor. They claimed they’d be there for it, so that gives some hope.

[@Whoareyoucalling]

This company wasn’t founded until 2022 so wishing for things 6 years before they existed is just weird. I wish my iPhone was sold in 1990 it would have been great. People will still continue to buy the first gen switch so this cases coming out now doesn’t really matter. More people buy original hardware than emulate, also nintendo has one of the strongest collection market so you bet this cases will sell well for years to come.

[@Chuck_Tarnish]

Using this to play Metroid Prime is pretty awesome, will try other FPS games with it soon

[@Aries73]

Took a look at the website and I can roll with this accessory. the case's price is right, too.

[@ToxcynTV]

At the end of the day its more comfortable than a stock switch in portable mode.

[@Ice_2192]

Our thumbs on controllers were meant to sway from 10-12 oclock. This thing assumes our thumbs go 12 and 6 oclock. If you move your thumb down to the buttons, you're sacrificing placing your finger ready on the bumper and trigger. Now CRKD would probably say "Well, if you have trouble reaching for the buttons, that's why we have the paddles there to begin with" which isn't really a great argument since there are controllers out there with only 2 paddles but the stick and button placements are in convenient locations. The best way that i could say that if you want this control scheme to work is to buy the regular version for usual action and adventure games and this one for shooter games and that's just me being nice. I don't think alot of people are gonna buy both just for that "convenience" especially when the switch is basically out the front door at this time of its life.

[@Kevintendo]

Did you own a Wii U? This is reminiscent of that gamepad Also Steam Deck has the sticks aligned - idk they’re onto something

[@crkdgg]

We always appreciate your honest feedback. Banger of a video per usual, thanks Kevin! 🔥

[@GGdrive1]

The back buttons are mapped to abxy. I use those and it's the best.

[@acb238]

Im just hoping they can release one next year for the switch 2

[@o0junglist0o93]

I love the symmetrical sticks, I hope Nintendo does this with switch 2

[@Whoareyoucalling]

Agreed, diagonal sticks are terrible. Wish Nintendo and microsoft would put their pride away for a second and make a controller that is ergonomically compatible with human hands.

[@Kogami]

WiiU gamepad...2!

[@o0junglist0o93]

@@Whoareyoucalling that's why I love my steam deck. Although my favourite configuration is Wii u style with the sticks up top

[@MJGxo]

Only thing I dislike is the light u can't turn off!

[@TheGreatCatsby93]

You can. It has different levels of brightness but you can also just turn it off completely.

[@bracy2.0]

I wish it would retain the setting you last used so it would always be off or at that brightness the next time you turn it on

[@elcucuy640]

I hope the switch 2 is something along this design with better specs and targeted at an older demographic, I don’t really take off the joycon anyways unless I get a different color I like more

[@z3razerviper]

I hated the original I wish they just went full steamdeck layout on the right side.

[@jwill7998]

I don't know why they're hellbent on placing the action buttons directly above/below the right joystick. It's not comfortable.

[@jamerv777smerf]

Honestly man I'm torn between this version and the original. Mainly been seeing people upset the original leaves scratches on back of switch but the new one right thumb stick placement STILL isn't right🤦🏽someone who has this thing🗣📣please🙌asking for a friend lol what's the deal with them both

[@jamerv777smerf]

Mobo pad m6 are the ones😭🏁

[@lewa3910]

I did have this preordered, until i learned that the remappable customisation did not include stick axis-inversion (like the 8bitdo ultimate with halleffect sticks). Maybe if they do add that in the future i'll consider it, but seeing how close the switch 2 is to being announced, might wait for their nitrodeck for that, unless nintendo manages to make the perfect joycons for it at launch.

[@gatonegroloco]

I’m just waiting for these to circle back to the Wii U gamepad.

[@Toxic3610]

To be fair, it’s not the first one to become a dock, it was also the Nexigo grip con,

[@phinyo2066]

Mobapad M6 HD ftw

[@DanielPerez-hy6qi]

Agreed..

[@caetanodantas4880]

Yeah

[@PureEvil1138]

I think ill always like offset joysticks better than parallel

[@CuriousTinkering]

I think Nintendo Life made the best review about the Plus.

[@Mati-kun]

Thank you for the vid.

[@eliv.1033]

Just purchased atomic red crystal edition on sale for my OLED. Even though I also have the nexi go cosmic edition I have had no issues with my crkd.🤔

[@kennyrmrz]

Thank you for reviewing this! Can you also review the ZenGrip Ronin please?

[@howardmalone3]

Can it be used as a controller still if your switch is in the original dock ie not connected ? How does it charge?

[@genzo_9350]

Hope he finally work with oled 🙏🏼😭

[@letsmakepancakes3]

It’s always worked with the oled?

[@agentice9703]

Kevin, have you ever heard of and/or ever going to review MobaPad M6 HD joy cons for the Nintendo switch? There’s a lot of reviews out there however am curious to know your opinion on it.

[@colmshanahan4583]

Nice video. One question I've found difficult to answer about this (and indeed, the predecessor or other brand alternatives)... Can use you USBC headphones? My gaming headset which I use with my Switch, PS5 and computer uses a USBC dongle. Would it work with one of these?

[@JTRumpet491]

Asymmetric stick layout is better, especially like this form factor. Still interesting though

[@Tiger24kicks]

Wish i was able to get the plus in the super nes or game cube color.

[@itsdeonlol]

Cool!!

[@e3vL1]

Why not put abxy onto the back paddle buttons?

[@93jcbaby]

you can program it to do so!

[@Crixus0983]

The back paddles are set that way by default.

[@rhoderzau]

It’s a shame about the ergonomics on these. I was convinced I wasn’t going to get one but then realised that when compared to the joycons it’s night and day more ergonomic. Hopefully they figure it out in their next iteration.

[@jacksonwalshe2520]

Ditch the head cozy brother 🫖

[@dillonwright13]

Let me just ask something, people were having problems with dock alternatives bricking their Switches, so how are people okay with risking their Switches bricking again with new dock replacements?

[@jackwolstenholme8213]

Get rid of them nasty side buttons and move the dpad and abxy up and make the triggers better for the switch 2 version.

[@gtmarkiii]

1:30 what game is that

[@nickstanton7628]

Hades

[@DeAeolus]

now we have difficulty to reach + & - buttons

[@KowsGoMoo]

I regret preordering the first one. That right thumb stick was a deal breaker for me

[@illidan2003]

What game is that at the 3:24 mark, anybody? Please and thank you. Also, great review. Lots of facts, no snarky commentary.

[@aldelot]

Looks like Hades to me

[@eliv.1033]

I might be late to this comment but i do believe it's called hades...🤔

[@Ryu0rKen]

What are the sticks like on this. The joycon sticks are terrible for FPS games so I am looking for something more on the lines of a PS5 controller.

[@manny315]

Can you connect headphones??

[@jamess.9743]

offset is better because the switch has less FPS style games and rely on buttons to play and less triggers

[@willparker4401]

What game is that at 1:27 ?

[@nthnglsn]

Does it have gyroscope?

[@sklynexd]

For nintendo it's actually BAYX not ABXY

[@nintendork07]

can't believe they looked at the wii u pro controller & thought, huh that extremely unergonomic layout is the way to go!! WHO THINKS THUMBSTICKS AT THE TOP IS A GOOD IDEA

[@grizzlyadams1929]

But does it still scratch the backplate?

[@HezakHQ]

there's enough room behind the switch to prevent scratching on the ND+ version. they made sure to add enough space.

[@timezones88]

I just got mine and 100% agree. Especially about the mushy triggers. They should have just copied the SteamDeck design and moved the buttons higher -OR- copied Satisfye’s offset grip that puts your hand/thumb at just the right angle. I really like it, but just not quite there yet.

[@sgt_hobbes]

lol symmetrical sticks for the win now if only they put the sicks on the bottom and the dpads and buttons on the top. I play more indi games that benifits from the buttons on the top

[@SJT9791]

Have you tried playing on the D-pad and face buttons on retro games? Cool that you’re 270. I’m 303.

[@JoseMiranda-fp3id]

if they didn't change the button layout i would have purchased it the second i saw it! Nintendo isn't meant for the FPS layout man >.

[@OldkidLivegen]

The dock thing is cool because it's how I use my Steam Deck in a minimalistic set up : as a controller when hooked to my monitor. But some features are still missing on the Nitro Deck new version. HD rumble witch a lot of 3rd party controllers include now. And what I would really like is the ability to be recognized as a GameCube controller to enable analog triggers in compatible games. Or at the very least the ability to map the right stick to analog triggers for racing games.

[@PJNyte]

The nitro deck does has analog triggers, but the switch doesn't support analog inputs

[@OldkidLivegen]

​@@PJNyte It does if the controller lets you map the right stick to analog triggers

[@mikeyneeley]

Nothing beats the Mobapad M6 HD.Same comfort with less bulk and you can use them as a standalone wireless controller as well.

[@Drivenby]

Wheee can you buy them 😊

[@caetanodantas4880]

​@Drivenby Aliexpress or Mobapad website.

[@tippedjoshua6802]

I really don’t understand why they would switch the right stick and buttons when they could’ve changed the grip or something.

[@XionSteel]

I ended up ordering the original nitrodeck recently and are looking up videos of people to get their opinions on it. I mostly saw complaints about the bottom stick being in the way when it is removable and for the nitro+ the shoulder buttons are hard to hit when using the face buttons when you have 2 back buttons that you can map to r and zr. but yeah, the face buttons being lower is why i consider getting the og over the +

[@hitachiuchihamagicwand2776]

Is using it as a dock safe? Ive heard using a third party dock can brick your system.

[@diegocobo8]

as long the device has the same voltage of the original power adapter, everything will be fine. I purchased one of those 5 € dock from Ali and my console still ok... The trick is always use (in dock mode) the original power adapter.

[@kylemcgowan1]

What was that game?

[@PikaPanda_88]

Huge mistake switching abxy with stick imo

[@letsmakepancakes3]

They just fixed what the number one complaint was about the original. Some people will never be happy.

[@danilocasun29]

honestly after the last nitro deck you recommended i would never take your word into a product again

[@ThetaxDeltax]

my joycons for house of the dead remake seem broke. I think i read it's the game. Tried replacing them. Same thing. Third party gamecube joycons seem to work. DOYOKY gamecube controller.

[@pkmn-96]

I ended up returning mine. Preordered mine and didn’t like the quality of the controller for the $80 I paid, didn’t like the triggers and glossy membrane buttons or dpad.

[@MrMustard14]

Ok everything about the switch is the vita now prove me wrong

[@Therealphantomzero]

Ok comparable option? Is there a perfect controller lol

[@neonswift]

Im confused about the triggers. The ones on the joycons and pro controller are digital. So why do the triggers on this device tarvel at all and why can you edit their sensitivity. Surely you want them to act as buttons so any inputs aren't delayed. You only want sensitivity on triggers if the a game actually utilizes some sort of analog input.

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

Why do people feel the need to have the tip of their thumb on the right stick on the original nitro deck? I keep the tip of my thumb near the buttons and the middle of my thumb modulates the stick, I mean it’s a Nintendo switch most games aren’t competitive and plays perfectly fine in that manner. To each their own, I prefer the steam deck layout but the offset doesn’t bother me in this case.

[@mlgxxx808]

Did gamevice lose Nintendo Switch lawsuit

[@LiRaye]

It is not a dock that it does not has the hdmi output

[@Monke80s]

Man, those ergonomics sound like a deal breaker. I don't have particularly huge hands, but I can imagine the issue, as I also had that issue with the 3DS and kind of with the switch, where one half is not as comfortable as the other. I can change the way I grip it, but it will never feel right in all instances where I'm playing the same game. Sometimes I may need the right stick to aim, or sometimes I may need to jump and it is not super comfortable having to swap like that. The features here are amazing and from what I can see, they work very well, but I am looking for a better handheld experience first and foremost, and those little issues sound like the issues I'm trying to avoid to begin with, so maybe not for me

[@dawlyndiaz148]

Mmm idk, that controller seems to be very uncomfortable, specially using that d-pad and bottoms

[@GGray.]

When i just bought the nitro deck 🤣

[@chucky110]

The analog/Button seap is not good. Going to cause so many cramps

[@EzMoney95]

Learn to use back buttons . This thing will be great for you

[@FRCB]

Nintendo or other companies should rip off the PlayStation portal control handle design. It’s most comfortable handheld console ever

[@Cousin_Elvin_sweet]

Steam deck rog ally gba the list of better feeling systems goes on

[@matthewwarren9199]

It’s my own fault for smoking a ton of weed before bed and ordering stuff. It’s ok, the button layout change SUCKS. I didn’t mind it at first but the first gen is way more comfortable. Also what a waste of money on those sax buttons. They are nice and clicky, and…. In terrible placement. I love that Neo S, I’ll still support them, but this felt like a gimmick. Sorry CKRD but I call it like I see it.

[@despeinado340]

The Split pad pro/compact STILL beats it out simply because they have offset buttons and sticks.

[@yesterdaysjam2405]

Shame it can't connect to a phone or PC and be used as a controller (yeah aware it's not got a battery lol)

[@garrisonbroome5525]

I think the only reason I would buy one is if it would work for the next Nintendo console.

[@MsSaskue360]

Don’t get why not have left and right stick at the buttom that what I’m use to

[@THEKLEVER187]

I’ll take the 1st model better ..

[@danieleberly9629]

Lmfao 🤣

[@enigmaticons]

Idea of a dock like this is great , but the execution of it is just bad.

[@rubencamps6689]

Go the first nitro deck on my oled. Aint not that bad. But recently switched over to steamdeck. Well cant go back anymore.

[@Whoareyoucalling]

Remember the first gen switch will continue to sell even after the second gen releases. Y’all clamoring way to hard on this case coming out now. There is a reason to why people say “better late than never”.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

No god damn way I am downloading _yet another_ app so that I can interface with an interface. The Crackhead Decked is already covered in buttons, anything I need to change I should be able to do on there.

[@Ink_Floyd]

Does this suffer from stickdrift?

[@ExternalSubject-666]

No it has hall effect joysticks

[@arl3k1ng70]

Esa cosa raspa la carcasa de la.switch hay mejores y de menor costo en Aliexpress que esa cosa. Por menos de 15 dlls

[@hotmintchoco]

If this launched even just two years ago it might still b competitive. Now? Too late honestly….

[@hoopa8x]

what the sigma

[@Beastmasterx]

still cant beat mobapad m6hd

[@user-ov8dr3ze4k]

Forget about "lifecycle". Switch can be played anytime. Don't regurgitate stupid internet babbling.

[@serhatca7609]

Earlyyyy