THIS & THAT #80 tubalcain starrett test indicator

[@lathammarx1458]

Tubalcain, I am blown away by your grateful comments about the items I sent you. I apologize that I didn't see this sooner, before commenting on another video. I am very pleased that you got the packages in good order and found the items useful. It is just a small measure of my appreciation for your work. We have never met, but you have touched my life with your humor, insight, wisdom and technical knowledge, I am sure I am far from the only one that feels that way. I truly enjoy your content. So again thank you, Sir.

[@alanjackson4397]

You are blessed to have so many KZbin followers, who value your content

[@stime6472]

It's very sad to hear about Vaughan. What the powers that be have done to this country sickens me! Thank you Mr. Pete for another great video.

[@stevebark4873]

Sad to hear about Vaughn. All too many American companies are sub coming to this new world economy. My heart aches for this country. A great many of us enjoy your discussions. Always something interesting. Keep up the good work.

[@marvinpybus4599]

Mr. Peterson, at the food packaging machinery company that I worked for we had some similar taps with ground flats. They were made to fit shop made tap extensions used to tap holes in the bottom of deep pockets and hard to access weldments, usually after an engineering change.

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

God bless you Lyle for all you have done on your long running YT Channel. Your 304Ks subscribers love you and your channel so much they send you wonderful things. Eighty years old is the new Sixty , so they say!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks so much

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

@@mrpete222 Your welcome!

[@danbreyfogle8486]

I suppose the Vaughn company will be greatly missed by those 130 people that depended on the company for their livelihood. Always find you videos so much fun to watch.

[@chrisbrady-t1u]

The closing of the Vaughan factory actually started in 1972 when Richard Nixon shook Mao Tse Tung's hand.

[@kevinkoepke8311]

I wish I could buy an American tool company. I get sick every time I hear of one shutting down. Thanks, Mr Pete!

[@binbashbuddy]

You could have, they were for sale. And remember, Starrett became what it is now by buying other tool companies, Starrett liked the Last Word indicator so much they bought the company.

[@Duckfarmer27]

Good video for a Sunday morning with the first cup of coffee. Sad news about Vaughn and Bushnell - another in a long line of similar events. Take care Lyle.

[@randywl8925]

I really enjoy your content, your stories and your style. Thank you for providing the masses with information that nobody else can or will provide.

[@mrpete222]

I appreciate that!

[@transmitterguy478]

Mr. Pete, The fan is black and is still there, the item that broke was a coupler between the motor shaft and the head. Mine did the same thing.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Very generous of your viewers Mr. Pete! Love your videos!

[@josephorozco7628]

I love these videos Mr. Pete. It's as if you're sitting in my model building room with me having a conversation.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@steveparker8723]

Sad news about Vaughn Bushnell. I was in the plant several times back in the late 80s. It will be a huge blow to the local economy. Its in a sparsely populated part of the state and its a very small town. Pray that the company is saved from closure. Another great video MrPete.

[@priority2]

We love you Mr Pete. Ive learned so much from you ❤❤❤

[@danermer2955]

Williams tools - made in my hometown. an aunt, uncle, and Junior Achievement advisor that worked there. Somewhere in the dresser, there is a 100th anniversary keychain wrench from Butch. Thank you for sharing your videos, I always learn something new.

[@mrpete222]

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[@stevebosun7410]

Great content Mr Pete, let's see many more. The disappearance of established manufacturing companies troubles me also from here in the UK. I worked for Ford in the UK from 1972, and there were many and various manufacturing facilities for automobiles and component parts, but just look at it now!

[@yambo59]

Just wanted to say im 64 and many of us out here love ya mr. Pete, aside from the machinist content and great stories we love the fact you are from when there was a much better generation in America, im not a fan of what our country has become today. I could go on but that says quite a lot in itself. Sadly I also had heard Starret is being sold out to some offshore concern that has already begun to produce offshore Starett tooling - very sad.

[@mrpete222]

😂😂😂

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Love the clock. Sad day for our country with Vaughn closing.

[@davidmiskinis3032]

Those are Nut or Nib taps made for high volume tapping of hex nuts. In the old days we had some in our catalog as "Tapper Taps" which had long shanks. Nib taps are part of a two-piece arrangement. The Nibs (taps) are soldered into a straight or "bent shank" (notice the solder on some of the shank), which has that same outer diameter as the relieved diameter behind the threads. This diameter is at the minor diameter of the threads. Some shanks are bent 90° and others 180°. The flat on the taps keeps them from rotating in the shank once soldered. Smaller taps are solid one piece. They are used in a special nut tapping machine. Nut blanks are fed on the front (notice the long tap chamfer) and exit off the back of the shank. Nut blanks are continually fed on and threaded, then stack up on the shanks, which can be 6, 8, 10 inches long. As a new one is tapped, it pushes the last one off the shank into a bucket in a continuous cycle. The nuts actually act as bushings to centralize the tap in a hollow tube holder or driver that rotates. The nuts do not rotate and are fed thru a channel that keeps them from rotating ... at least that's the way it was done before I retired (after 43 yrs.) as a Technical Specialist and Product Mgr. for GTD, now Kennametal.

[@4GSR]

Exactly!!!

[@mrpete222]

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[@boboshop55]

Wow, very interesting.

[@ellieprice363]

Since the nuts slide off the tap shank into a bucket what drives the tap?

[@davidmiskinis3032]

@@ellieprice363 I'm not certain of the actual design, but the tube with the bent shank tap inside (and the threaded nuts holding it central in the tube), is part of a unit that rotates. A pusher at the front aligns and pushes a nut blank onto the tap. As that nut passes to the shank, it pushes the last nut(s) off the shank, then the process repeats.

[@pfflyer1963]

So sad to hear about Bushnell Vaughan. I hope it wasn’t the Home Depot contract that put them under. What I mean is, unless they have very good cash flow, contracts with HD, Walmart and Dollar General(5 Dollar General now) can cause financial problems. In order to get those contracts the big box stores are wanting and getting terms like 120 to 160 day terms to pay. I had a customer go bankrupt because of these terms and lack of fiscal discipline because their vendors, me included would not extend the same terms to them. So having to pay your vendors in 30 to 90 days but having to wait until 160 days to get paid for your labor, it doesn’t take long before you get in trouble. I ended up extending terms to 60 days to them because I knew they had the contracts but 60 days ended up being never and me $32,000 poorer. I now tell customers that try to squeeze longer terms to pay that I am not in the lending business but I can extend fair prices and good service to them.

[@bcbloc02]

I don’t know how businesses run like that. My terms are the bill is due when the work is completed. It doesn’t leave my shop without payment as I am not interested in being a debt collector.

[@skipragsdale]

Mr. Pete Thanks for a great presentation, well thought out and well organized, love your videos. Saddens me to hear of the Vaughn factory (people should be ashamed of themselves for buying cheap carp, instead of Made in U.S.A. tools.) Warms my heart to see all the generous people who love our innerweb shop teacher, Mr. Pete! That's quite the "Ant Patrol Arsenal", the ants are running for cover!

[@mrpete222]

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[@justinbrewer8408]

Love these This and That series! Thanks you for such great content as always. Looks like I'm going to have to grab one of these drill sharpeners now too

[@desertdweller9548]

That starrett clock is nice. 👍

[@strongandco]

There are tap wrenches that will adequately drive a tap that has been ground with one flat. That's (almost) exactly what we used to do when we had a taps without a centre hole and wanted to use the pillar drill (or milling machine) chuck to keep it square with the hole. (Bear in mind, we didn't keep chuck type tap wrenches in the stores, so couldn't utilise the centre hole of a tap wrench and centre held the the chuck to keep the tap square to the work piece, and sometimes, even if we had one, there wasn't enough room between the work piece and the drill chuck for the added length of a chuck tap wrench). To keep the tap square with the hole, we'd slide the tap wrench over the shank, hold the top of the tap wrench in the drill chuck, disengage the drive (so the chuck spins freely) and use the the tap wrench to turn the tap. (Generally we didn't grind the whole shank, only an area long enough for the jaws of the tap wrench to engage on, around 2/3rds the way down the shank. That way, instead of having to disengage the drive and allowing the chuck to turn, we could just hold the tap loosely below the square drive in the drill chuck and allow it to slip in the jaws as we turned the tap wrench).

[@mrpete222]

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[@Blippa-v4x]

Always look forward to enjoy your content

[@mrpete222]

Glad to hear it

[@robertpearson8798]

I’d advise those people who ask you to do things like that to look for and join groups like the ones on Facebook or other forums that are focussed on specific activities or even specific types of machinery or specific models of machinery. The people in them are very often quite able and willing to help them out with specific details or advice. Sometimes the information and advise is almost a little too forthcoming.

[@seanobrien7169]

The ironic part of caleb's clock division is this very video, in which he gifted you an awesome BTW clock, might be the very thing that gets him shut down. He might have flowen under the corporate lawyer radar for a while otherwise...

[@holnick2989]

Hi from Finland, no honey it is the probe, LOL. keep up the great work.

[@mrpete222]

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[@theseldomseenkid6251]

*GRIN* I don't believe that watching your videos has kept me out of trouble. I think you have influenced an auction and old tool "addiction" (although I can quit whenever I want).

[@mrpete222]

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[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

I ordered a Vaughn dead blow hammer about 6 weeks ago on Amazon. After about 10 days of it not shipping my order was cancelled. I guess that explains why. That sucks they closed up. I have several Vaughn hammers.

[@themancalledx]

Good Sunday morning Mr. Pete

[@rwbishop]

Out of passing interest, I don't know as fact, but have heard from several independent sources that Mitutoyo combination squares are now actually produced by PEC (Products Engineering Corporation) in Torrance CA. Love the 'This & That' format!

[@mrpete222]

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[@CazClocker52]

Just want to say I love your channel! I've followed you for years and years, but I've never commented before this.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much for your faithfulness

[@mosfet500]

I believe the green is the old color. I have that same tool I bought new over 40 years ago. I have some newer tools with the blue also. I would think the tapes were reduced to fit a specific chuck. Thanks for the video old timer, I'm a youngster (79)!

[@mrpete222]

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[@RichieCat4223]

5:29 Just looked up the replacement parts for the tool. Fan is part of the armature that is discontinued.

[@mrpete222]

😂

[@4GSR]

@@mrpete222 I have the Craftsman branded one that was still working the last time I used it. May take it apart and reverse engineer that part and 3-D print one. If I can ever find time to do so.

[@chrisbrady-t1u]

I like the giant indicator.There was a shop in Brooklyn called Precision Metal Products that incorporated a giant stainless steel micrometer into the "P" in Precision.Sign was also entirely in stainless too.There was actually TWO mic.s up there on top of a seven story building,I've seen both up close and they were at least 6 ft. long and accurately made.

[@mrpete222]

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[@adamchandler3162]

Thank you Mr Pete have a great Sunday

[@brentandrade5861]

The ground shanked taps and reamers are intended for a power tapping secondary operation. We had plenty for such setups in screw machine shop.

[@nomercadies]

Good spending time with you sir.

[@randy2688]

Very enjoyable video Mr. Pete . Thanks !

[@100yojimbo]

Excellent video Mrpete, a nice mix of different subjects 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@mrpete222]

Thanks 👍

[@charliechmelar9788]

Have experienced the same problem with Dremel couplers, witch is now an obsolete part. I will no longer purchase Dremel power units

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@MrJruta]

Same. They are junk

[@garthbutton699]

I'd comment but appears as if the audience has covered all the bases,thanks for your input Mr.Pete your a stand up performer 🤗😎🤗😎

[@mrpete222]

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[@erickvond6825]

Just a quick tip about tapping holes. I noticed a nut on one of the taps you received and it brought a memory back of a way to put a stop on a thread tap. You can fit two nuts on the tap and use it as a depth stop. It's something I thought of back in the 90s and it's been pretty useful over the years.

[@mrpete222]

Great tip!

[@simpleman283]

They are putting the flats on the reamers & taps to use in a tool holder.

[@carrollprice1213]

I had the same problem with a Dremel tool several years ago.

[@joemcgarry1106]

I have used the Starrett flex type indicator holder. I think you may find it to your liking.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@SteelSurgeon]

On the mitutoyo, the green is the older one. The blue is newer. Not sure why they switched or when.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@hbracerx]

Very interesting stuff indeed. Quite saddening about the hammer factory and those jobs though!

[@SomeMorganSomewhere]

The FrankenMill sign looks like it was milled on a CNC mill, you can see what look like round swirl patterns from the tip of an endmill in the corners of the FrankenMill text.

[@binbashbuddy]

Starrett got to be the company they are at least in part by buying other companies. Remember, Last Word was an HA Lowe product until Starrett bought them, and they bought Webber Gauge and Rhode Island Tool too.

[@michelecrown2426]

My Mititoyo I bought about 40 years ago is the blue color which I like better than that green.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@test1961]

Hi as for the reamers that have been ground I worked at a industrial supply that would grind off the Made in Japan off of the reamers and end mills and other tooling before it went to the customer.

[@slypig24]

Mr Pete. Please make a new knurled lock nut the replace the missing one, and show us how the blacken it. It would make a great episode.

[@mrpete222]

I might do that, but I’m not sure I have the metric tap in that weird size

[@anthonyzabukovec313]

That sounds like a lesson in single point metric threading. Love your videos, Lyle!

[@causewaykayak]

Sad that another long established firm goes under. There's some corrosive affecting manufacturing in europe and the UK too. Huge firms and small with several generations of loyal employees being discarded and their skills lost. It is truly maddening. Condolences to all conbected as staff, customers and well wishers at Vaughan. 🇮🇪🇬🇧

[@mrpete222]

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[@TheUncleRuckus]

Seems to me the only reason to reduce the shanks on the reamers and taps would be, because the shanks were too big to fit into whatever they were running them in.

[@BedsitBob]

That clock is very 😎 Do they do any with English company names on them, like Moore & Wright?

[@wk7060]

That clock is nice!

[@p.debolt6784]

The color, of some Mitutoyo tools indicate where they were made, Japan or Brazil, vintage too.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@MatthewRulla]

Sitting here watching the news about Vaughan and Bushnell I realised that I'm wearing their 150th anniversary T-shirt. Another sad day for American manufacturing.

[@mrpete222]

😂

[@sallybrokaw6124]

Bry-Air is in Sunbury, Ohio 15 miles from my house.AL B.

[@dennythomas8887]

Maybe the modified taps can (only a guess) now be held in an end-mill holder?

[@alro2434]

The Starrett Clock, we need one in Daylight Saving Time & Metric! 🙃

[@brianroberts4349]

I believe it's the coupler...not a fan...the fan is the larger black thing to the rear of the broken coupler is it not?

[@carrollprice1213]

Yes, it was the coupler that disintegrated on mine which I replaced with a short piece of plastic (Tygon) tubing that seems to work OK for light duty work.

[@doctwiggenberry5324]

Great video, Mr Pete.

[@sphandengraving5691]

Does the gentleman who made that riser for the unimat sale those anywhere?

[@tobhomott]

There was a scene in an episode of a sitcom called News Radio where a character claimed that if you say the code word "Tubalcain" in court and the judge is a Freemason, you automatically go free. Maybe that accounts for a couple of the oddball questions 🤷

[@mrpete222]

True

[@brianatbtacprod1989]

Actually I wondered if the probe on the clock was a pendulum. It would go the wrong way to a normal pendulum, but it might have been cool too.

[@nomercadies]

Morning Lyle

[@W4BIN]

We enjoy you and your voice. Ron W4BIN

[@mrpete222]

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[@markhelms2287]

pretty sure it was your coupler that disintegrated, not the fan.

[@martinswiney2192]

Mr. Pete. Just a heads up. I tried to contact that company about the Starrett clock cause I would love to buy one. None of the info is real. Maybe the guy doesn’t want to be in the clock printing business. Oh well. Just thought I would let you know.

[@mrpete222]

I do not understand what happened

[@martinswiney2192]

@@mrpete222 btw. I have a tool I would like to send to you for your “what is it?” video. Its really cool looking like some spring loaded pliers or something. It probably has to do with outboard motor repair cause thats the kind of work the man did. His son could not identify it so I do not even know what it is. It has no name or any marking on it. How do I send that to you? I have looked for contact info and cannot find it. Or I could send it to your local Lost Creek Machine and they could forward it to you. My own shop here in Alabama is also Lost Creek Machine. Lol.

[@christurley391]

Thanks again

[@why_do_you_want_to_know]

Tap handles ground to allow them to be used in drill chuck (bad idea).

[@myronmarcotte7072]

those taps have to be used in machine work as in used in machines

[@e9999qwe]

does not look like the fan. There is still one there (black) it seems. And it would probably still run without the fan. But there seems to be a part missing between the front gear and the end of the rotor assembly.

[@jsteifel]

oh no... I like the Vaughn hammers. I have been looking for them in stores, and noticed they were not stocked any longer. I like the soft faced hammers, I use them quite a bit. the husky is awful in the hand by comparison, The handle on the Vaughn is just to my liking. I have ball peens, soft face and an old straight claw hammer.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@dankotos61]

My lathe is cutting crooked can you fix it for me please Lol 😊

[@cyclebuster]

they are for use in a drill in a muffler shop. Oh I am sure you know all about the masons. I am fairly sure your a mason. If not you should be. i need your address for some goodies you can show.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much. You can find my address in the following KZbin video. Here is the title, search for it. “ winter special, Mr. Pete machine shop video courses”

[@wk7060]

I bet Dremel sends you a new tool! If they are a decent company, they will.

[@sky4you2b]

So sad , I think that it's the inflation that's closing down these manufacturing companies , It seems the same thing happened back in the 1970's during that inflationary time .🙁

[@EVILDR235]

ATTENTION Comrade Mr. Pete, this is Igor Sputniksky Russian Commander on the International Space Station. We have a serious problem with our re-entry rockets. We would like you to fly to Kazakhstan and board a Soyuz rocket, fly up here to the I.S.S. and help us repair our re-entry rockets.

[@mrpete222]

Lol

[@paulrooster2108]

Mr.Pete can't ya get the wife to get the dia of that lathe pulley 🤔🤣

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@chrischapel9165]

Well Mr Pete you are a "traveling" man right? LOL...I recall your story of guys coming up to you and asking that and, it was all because of your tubalcain shirt and it all had to do with the Masons and Tubalcain in Masonic lore.

[@mrpete222]

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[@Ray-r5j9u]

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[@dougvanallen2212]

130 jobs what a shame

[@wvrockcrusher]

Hate to hear that about Vaughn because I liked their hammers and other products, not to mention the people who lost their jobs. Seems like we are losing everything in America that was good and nobody that could do something about it really even cares. The powers that be just don't want Americans to make or have anything and it seems to get worse by the day. I hope that somebody could step in to maybe purchase the company and make a go of it because once this stuff is gone, it never comes back.

[@mrpete222]

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[@carrollprice1213]

Mark Twain had figured it out back in the 1930s: "America has the best government money can buy."

[@alro2434]

I don't understand how they could fail, making hammers too nice and too pretty and too expensive to use, what could go wrong?

[@xoxo2008oxox]

Dear Mr Pete, you will be soon receiving a visit from an IRS agent on that cash gift and those VEVOR products... LOL... I hope not! You realize that Vevor sends unsolicited goods to dozens of youtubers to review and then keep them? I wish Harvey would send me a $2000 bandsaw and I'd review it...oh wait, I don't have a channel... hmm...we should talk Mr Pete..wink wink. Shame to hear about Vaughan. Looks like the era of private investment firms is the reincarnation of Al Dunlap.

[@Michealst1]

gggg