This TINY Aliexpress Gaming PC is AWESOME!

[@zaklevy7481]

please do a liquid cooled follow up, that would be sick

[@trustee8503]

plus dual channel ram

[@i4y]

now

[@ChuckNORRlS]

Do it god damn it

[@3rd.world.eliteAJ]

+ UNDERVOLT CPU & GPU ! ! !

[@briandorsey5728]

i rather see that mini computer getting the liquid metal treatment on the CPU and GPU

[@der8auer]

haha solid reference :D Thanks man

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Thanks for watching the video! Let me know if you want to take this PC for a spin. :P

[@user-vy5hc9ud6l]

Ok hätte dich nicht hier erwartet

[@tuktuxedo8835]

@@prettylies269 badass username

[@Denniz69]

Wäre sehr interessant ein deutsches Review zu sehen zur bestätigung 😊✌🏼 Wäre ein geiler Lan Party PC💪🏽

[@bomartin5204]

Hotter than midday on Mercury. It lines like this that keeps me coming back to your channel.

[@hammyboigaming904]

Yeah same. He’s the funniest tech youtuber

[@BuffMyRadius]

His quip about the "thermal paste bukake" on the other Ali Express PC just about ended me.

[@jacobvanstraten7926]

He's the finniest guy doing tech videos...

[@karlfrench6628]

Agreed, I don't even have a PC 😅

[@jacobvanstraten7926]

@@karlfrench6628 give me an address ill send you one. Im at 510 spinnaker lane. Apt number 6 green bay Wisconsin usa

[@tehklevster]

"the box is very small, here is my hand for scale" - How do we know you're not a giant living in a giant house at the top of a beanstalk? We've never seen you outside.

[@Thehulksterbeast]

You make a very Good point there

[@justlixian293]

should have use banana, more accurate

[@bojanvelkoski3275]

@@justlixian293 i mean there's the metric system but yeah bananas...

[@metaltrombone549]

@@bojanvelkoski3275 Nobody *actually* uses the metric system, dweeb.

[@bojanvelkoski3275]

@@metaltrombone549 What's your understanding of the word "Nobody"?

[@madmat2001]

You should try a case mod to uncork the fan inputs and maybe put some kind of "hifi" style feet under it to give it some room to pull in air and see if that helps temps.

[@weltirol3476]

yes please do that ! :-)

[@brentgreeff1115]

Yea - more practical than liquid cooled. -

[@MrOathbinder]

I would also like to see this.

[@erikpedersen4146]

i would like to se that to, makes way more sense than liquid cooling.

[@ArtisChronicles]

@@erikpedersen4146 no one says he can't do both. Not everyone would be willing to or able to mod their case to improve airflow though. Would be nice to see if improving airflow will lower temps.

[@DracoRagnarock]

Before liquid cooling, you should cut an opening in the bottom of the case where the fans should be drawing air in and glue some nylon mesh over the hole, Giving the fans relatively unrestricted airflow while having some dust prevention and see how much that improves thermals.

[@shapelessed]

So basically we got scammed by AliExpress and got an actually good PC? Who would figure...

[@15fakeaccount]

Well, this wasn't Wish-video.

[@DOHA104p3]

@Awhoo Thunder it's a great pc. It has a gpu and 8 core cpu. It's wouldn't be hotter if there were more fan or it was on an normal pc case.

[@DOHA104p3]

@Awhoo Thunder Well If I own it I would be perfectly fine with a because I'm not an heavy gamer and. Also compared to hp pavilion gaming laptop, it's way better. And people are not using 8 core cpu to game.

[@DOHA104p3]

@Awhoo Thunder also good luck finding an gtx 1650 and i9 for that price

[@acwbit2368]

@@DOHA104p3 don't compare a laptop i9 to a desktop i7

[@EvEnMoR]

These unique lil devices are my favourite videos that you do! It's so cool to see lil devices becoming so capable at a somewhat lower and more affordable price point... Makes me just that much more excited for the future of tech and gaming as far as accessibility, affordability, and portability goes... Thanks for the video, Dawid! Cool stuff as always, man!

[@methodmantis3060]

The peeping Quagmire in the bottom left corner was an OUTSTANDING touch! Bravo, good sir!!!!!

[@DraftySatyr]

9:51 Giggity!

[@talez6806]

Weve waited centuries for this video only OGs know the wait

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Hahaha!! Yeah, it's been some time. 😅

[@m2kkillshot]

Sounds like a cooling mod by drilling a few small air holes over the top of the fans would do a lot to help with those in game and stress load test temperatures. I would suggest using something in the 1 to 2 mm ( 1/8 inch ) size to drill out a small pattern of holes over the tops of the 2 fans that would really do good to lower the temps and give those fans some room to breath.

[@tonywhite6985]

Terrible case design, given the fan location

[@RaptorSA]

Awesome. Glad to see you reviewing this. Been thinking for weeks about buying one of these as a work-at-home pc (data engineering and programming). Great to have all those cores for multi threading as well as a capable gpu for apps that can use it.

[@Gepper]

I love how you give video sneak peaks in your KZbin stories. Always gotta get my (nearly) daily dose of Dawid

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

That's great to hear. I'll do them more often. 👍

[@n.m.e5787]

"It's kinda playible" fps 100+

[@masterjenkins632]

i bet the temps skyrocket after an hour and a half

[@filiplukic3097]

Yea

[@meap_me]

@@masterjenkins632 you could just lock the fps to 60 so It dosen't heat up as much..

[@vato6815]

@@meap_me 60fps isnt gaming anymore

[@tumppu123-h4s]

@@vato6815 maybe for you

[@Capr15un]

It would be good to see comparison results of undervolting the cpu with Intel XTU or Throttlestop and the GPU with afterburner or similar.

[@TheRealMoeru]

^ This. Undervolting might work great in this case. Used to own a dell g7 7588 with a i5 8300h and a gtx 1050 and Temps were awful until I undervolted. It would be great to see undervolting results

[@3rd.world.eliteAJ]

Liquid metal + undervolted would probably allow it to hold max clocks, I hate how so many people don't test undervolting on SFF PC/Laptop reviews the free performance gains are huge from doing it..

[@andrewmcewan9145]

Some intel cpus have locked voltage now thanks to the plundervolt attack... yay

[@3rd.world.eliteAJ]

@@andrewmcewan9145 It's every Intel CPU, but you can easily unlock them by modifying the bios. Just another place where AMD could swing big on Intel if they allowed undervolting on their mobile chips, but they don't..

[@andrewmcewan9145]

@@3rd.world.eliteAJ I'm pritty sure icelake and tigerlake have the voltage controller blocked with microcode. I dont have any laptop that new and never had any issue using throttle stop to undervolt chips between haswell and coffeelake without a bios mod. It woud be cool if fivr lock was a bios toggle and modding bios would work but unfortunately thats not how it seems to be.

[@nsemlak09]

When he said “here’s my hand for scale” I genuinely thought he was going to say it *too* is small 😂

[@bersK00]

LIQUID COOL AND OVERCLOCK THE SNOT OUT OF IT! I am actually interested in this is an alternative to budget SFF or however you want to call them...

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Well, budget it's not.

[@ArtisChronicles]

It would be an alternative to an sff. Noise level aside, it's a decent option at least.

[@GarlicNoji]

Chill with the caps dude it's not that serious.

[@RarestAce]

Definitely do the liquid cooling on it and just for grins see what happened to the temps if you keep the cover off to keep the fans exposed.

[@mndayman]

now a days kids would say “this bios is BUSSIN” i think tight is trending down

[@tylerm.9408]

Maybe they say "sheeeeeeesh" now, but I don't know how that is used tbh

[@michaeljodon]

Fire on Tiktok

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I'm clearly behind the times. 😂

[@angw3l]

nah the word bussin is used when talking about food

[@simont3686]

The second reason why manufacturers use single channel RAM is because if it's a work computer someone could steal one channel without it being noticed.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Nobody does that

[@simont3686]

@@MJ-uk6lu A lot of people do that. Especially kids with computers at school.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

@@simont3686 A lot of kids are way too stupid to even know what RAM is and sure as hell they don't sneak in screw drivers. Those that are aware of what RAM is likely don't care about school computers anyway as they are usually some old POS.

[@acev3521]

@@simont3686in schools they just take out all sticks lol

[@zdl5665]

Box Tape Man works hard to put food on his family’s table and he can do it without your criticism!

[@relaxationinc.8522]

fr he struggling he get paid per package he's trying to make the most

[@limga_ssb]

ive actually been using this since january, its genuinely super good and ive been using it as a stream pc

[@Gazpolling]

Link pls

[@kyles8524]

this isnt a bad price, its about 800 bucks USD for the one in this video, I just want to know what brand the motherboard is cause it could be made very cheap and last like a month

[@DangNguyen-xx3zi]

Knowing Chinese products, it's likely from the same factories that make boards for generic laptops. So not top quality but not trash either.

[@siyzerix]

Its shit for $800. For around that a 4600h and 1650ti would perform better. And come with a display. And keep temps about 70 on gpu and 80 on cpu. With tuning and repasting expect a 10 degree reduction. This guy got scammed.

[@jaykoerner]

@@siyzerix wouldn't have thunderbolt though...

[@siyzerix]

@@jaykoerner How useful is that shit? And again, the laptop is CHEAPER and more POWERFUL. This product is fucking useless.

[@jaykoerner]

@@siyzerixeh personal preference, in 5 years time that laptop is stuck at 720p for gaming and this machine can do 4k with a 400$ gpu upgrade, there is a usecase for it, at least I would take it over something less expansion

[@agustinanfuso6505]

Need that liquid cooling video, Dawid. "The little PC that could...or couldn't. Find out next week!"

[@ranilp7981]

Mini Pc from Aliexpress : Dawid : LETS WATER COOL IT !

[@jonathanellis6097]

Doing a couple of minor mods could improve the cooling and noise significantly I would bet. One remove the stock case feet and install some taller ones. Two modify the bottom panel so the fans have some vents directly above them. Should be easy enough as its a snap off plastic panel. Would be interesting to see how much of a difference that would make.

[@Bleys001]

Nice! I wonder how it would perform if you modify the case so the fans could get better airflow. Like square holes over the intakes. Could fancy it up by adding a filter over the hole.

[@enderhexfyre2]

@dawid you never posted what paste you used either thinner pastes like kryonaut often pump out in low mounting pressure things like laptops ect. ICD or gelid gc extreme would be good pastes for this scenario. Also you should undervolt and adjust the power limits. Water-cooling would be pointless as your not thermal throttling your power limit throttling. Throttle stop using a -.125 mv undervolt and raising long power limit to 65w or 70w would more than likely net you 3.8-4.1 ghz all core permanent boost.

[@landowilliams2340]

I kinda want to see a video where you give those fans a larger vent and bigger case feet

[@CLEARRTC]

Great video as usual, always enjoy your content. I definitely would like to see a liquid cooling follow up. Also how awesome der8auer chimed in. Think that means your big leagues now!

[@rasmussteenhansen3122]

I would actually like to see an undervolt of the CPU with the current cooling solution But liquid cooling it would be fun too!

[@FNCSDiablo]

9:51 quagmire what are are you doing?👌👌🤣🤣😂😂

[@nedrapaul4135]

In my experience trying to repaste my PS4, I have discovered that applying regular thermal paste on an exposed CPU dye results in something called the pump-out effect. It's basically when the thermal paste starts oozing from the sides of the chip due to expansion and compression along with a lack of friction. It doesn't matter how much paste you apply or how you do it it will always come out from the sides. The solution is to use a higher viscosity paste or for a more robust solution, you can use thermal grizzly carbonaut. I used the latter and worked like a charm.

[@Mricanseeyou]

I love the dead pan one liners, i never expect them coming.

[@saiputcha1730]

Vs Intel 11 NUC, it looks quite similar in performance and the temps are lower on that system. Would love to see a head to head comparison tho!

[@dittocopys]

3:01 800 farenheit, love the fluid commentary

[@Josh4.L]

Ali express is like a mine field. Some times you struck gold and then it’s just straight up bad. Love the vids Dawid 😁😁

[@parulbanga007]

I love these Aliexpress videos. Keep them coming

[@DraftySatyr]

"We may have some BDSM fan-choking action" 🤣🤣 Not something I expected to hear on a PC review!

[@Yuzuki1337]

Clearly you have never made a whip out of Ethernet cables. ;)

[@ElephoontOfTheShapes]

Yeah man, Dawid has the best one liners 🤣

[@FS--ew3se]

What is bdsm

[@lagoleer]

Try a spread test to make sure the heatsink is making full, proper contact. Also, try running it elevated with the bottom off to see how temps improve with zero airflow restriction.

[@xB2KxRewindZ]

I am up really early for this to only be a 15 minute old video! What am I doing with my life?!?!

[@warhead811]

Good things

[@NomaddUK]

Errr obviously wasting it as it was only 10 minutes but quality minutes though.

[@devinstratton5929]

Throttle stop is a must

[@parthkanani03]

Ofcourse we want a follow-up video. Just throw a massive tower cooler like you did to that laptop😂

[@christophermullins7163]

Massive V8 tower cooler on a 35 watt i5.. you couldn't get that above 40c.. im sure of it. Lol

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

That will happen if my AIO idea fails. 😁

[@wizdude]

Awesome video Dawid! Just curious though - at 4:47 the uptime is 17 days. Is that just because it took you a while to do the video? Or did the device ship in a shutdown/suspended state?

[@boywithanearring]

im really intrested in this pc (specifcally for emulation) would anybody say this pc is worth it?

[@1tubax]

No. Just build a regular one. You really don't want to get issues with cooling

[@tanihakuna]

Just done a binge of videos lol it's 0243 I need to sleep and I've got the system ready to be bought 😂

[@mariolu3332]

Our prices on AliExpress are more favorable，this link: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002423422145.html

[@angrynerd2103]

I love it when i deploy my computational loads! 🤤

[@mariolu3332]

Our prices on AliExpress are more favorable，this link: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002423422145.html

[@InfiAaron]

This man is the only person on KZbin with an intro which is actually enjoyable to watch

[@xa-xii1316]

Beard is looking good!!

[@polygonvision5879]

The comparisons that fly out this man's mouth are on point.

[@bluespinewood6304]

finaly something for my LAN parties wait am not allowed to be outside OH then per house lan parties

[@ZephyrDavid]

Watercooling? DO IT!

[@Kuli24000]

At this point in size, just get a gaming laptop for cheap.

[@Kuli24000]

@Usman Bamgbola First 2 that came up on my local classifieds were $690 and $700 for gaming laptops. The $700 had a 1060 6gb and the $690 one had a 1050.

[@Motishay]

4:05 I like your way of thinking. Nt-h1 tho? Not gonna make much of a difference. Thermal grizzly's kryonaut, however, is a different story. Maybe even liquid metal (not necessary tho). I would've also tried running it with the panel off, to see how much of an impact that stupidly placed hole has. Maybe dremelled out a circle under each fan, that's bound to give proper results.

[@solotango5576]

9:50 GIGGITY!

[@Silythx]

You are making the best tech related videos,i swear!

[@thiagobulhoesvianna]

Pleaseeeee.... Put another ram stick, otherwise my OCD will go berserk :) great work!

[@christophermullins7163]

Same. I would not have even tested it with a single chip. What a total waste of life. (Single channel ram... not the guy)

[@alexanderjohansson2671]

Yeah, could have added another stick for a final test. He better add it for the future liquid cooling video at least.

[@GerthardusMarais]

Just found your channel. Love the content man.

[@raylopez99]

Awesome. What this told me is that for applications that max out the CPU/GPU, extra thermal paste and/or re-pasting or reseating your chips will not really lower chip temperatures, just as I expected. For 'regular' operations they might make your PC not work as hard with the fan, and you'll have less noise, but that's another story.

[@KaiynFallanx]

Them witty lines makes me want to come back. Like a junkie coming for his favorite dealer. :D

[@zacharysniadach8399]

Dawid! Fantastic video as always! Please do a liquid cooled follow up! I would love to see what the differences in temperature would be!

[@Viking8888]

Nice video! I'd love to see a review of the unit you thought you were getting. The one with the desktop graphics card installed.

[@Caladuun]

Ive had suck POOR luck with AliExpress it's nice to see something turned out good. Nice video!!

[@nicoful86]

I was really hoping to see the die shots from underneath that heatsink. Nice video!

[@QuietLycoris]

Dawid: calling 1080p low quality me who runs 720p with a 630: . _ . y u booly me

[@SaccoBelmonte]

I'm amazed you didn't try the first obvious fix. To leave the back of it open so the fans don't choke. I'm looking forward for that and also some liquid metal....then finally move to water cooling.

[@mrljgibson]

The mounting solution might need a bit of customising, but I'm sure a closed loop water cooling solution might sort out the heat issues.

[@iThinkWeGotIt]

Count how many times he says “ way better than i was expecting “ lol

[@operator7585]

Seems like it would be a good multimedia entertainment center that can do some light/short term gaming. Just hook it up to a tv in anyone's living room or a motel room when you're on the go...

[@pobbyfbi]

I'd love to see if making it dual channel will affect it as much as your previous video.

[@KirbyJr]

Thanks for doing this video. it seems like a decent choice for the price

[@RATsnak3]

This PC is actually kinda amazing... if you mod that bottom panel for better airflow (which couldn't possibly be that hard) you could easily bring those temps down a lot.

[@margolitapnina6716]

i bought it with the winter sales today after weeks of daily lurking 😂❤️ can't wait.

[@istvanilosvai2962]

You know you are a good mechanic when you finish and things look good and you even have a spare screw left

[@HelloAmDog]

"A BIOS that would make derbauer blush." Aight im sold

[@Jus_Juzy]

As a tip i recommend to dip it in a bath to cool it down turn on the power to if you want and bath with it. Its very effective 👍

[@jacknewman7873]

What if you put it on one of those laptop cooling pads with fans in?

[@Charodiy_UA]

I hope that tiny mini PC is doing fine, wish to see more videos where you Dawid do customizations to the case, so the cooler has more air to "breathe" and of course, a second stick of RAM is a must-have for such a beasty CPU. Pls, do not leave such a nice PC on its own 😏

[@ogcipher4967]

So fun thing, at least back then (not sure if it's still the case) playing Tarkov on all low would somehow run worse than on medium, because the devs are just that good

[@BladeCrew]

I mean, if you want better cooling you could have made custom plates to change the small airflow to a large airflow and it will still look good. You could have dropped like between 7-20 degrees Celsius.

[@norsevikingsir4932]

I would've used a hole saw and drilled holes the size of the fans on the intake portion of the case, then glued some mesh in, right where the fan intakes are and watch those temps fall.

[@mrtroy]

Every time I had to open up this pc... I have to search for this video around 3:14 to see how it's done. I'm only saying this because I know I'll be back here in a few months searching for it again.

[@Cotinine]

actually got this for my spear room and mounted it on a back of an old 1080 144hz monitor

[@EternalSaber]

How about trying liquid metal thermal paste?

[@SpurgtFuglen]

Finally!!! A tech youtuber using Tarkov as benchmark! Thank god.

[@charlesjmouse]

Not necessarily ideal but as the 'lid' is on the underside one could run the machine without it for hopefully better air flow.

[@adamneff1600]

i would like to see the bottom plastic panel modified for better airflow to those dual fans. Just dremel a cut out and put some kind of mesh there. Or even just drill some holes if your lazy.

[@Nathraichean]

i feel like if you actually cut off the bottom part (its not a bad mod as you dont see the bottom part ever) and just add some mesh to introduce some more fresh air and maybe put it on a laptop fan stand/platform to just show off its maximum potential @ stock config, without liquid cooling

[@JohnDoe-yf9wk]

I guess it's good that good computers are available out there you just have to look for them and be willing to pay the shipping and hope that there's no issues with it.

[@yambo59]

I agree with madmat below take that bottom panel off cut a rectangular hole and install a mesh vent so air can get to the fans, then put some raised feet on it to increase air flow. The ony downside to these small rigs is theyre almost all hot boxes, this shortens life and hampers performance - I think a little modding for increased air intake could easily lower temps some.

[@gregvanpaassen]

You shouldn't need much thermal paste. It sounds like there's a gap between the heatpipes and the CPU lid - something's preventing tight contact.

[@thegregofficial]

leave it on for 5 minutes and it sets itself on fire is the first thing i thought

[@beachuk2000]

Get a hole saw out and make some proper positioned air intakes coupled with some taller feet. That’s would be a great first test to see how you can maximise the current setup

[@jerrybomcool]

I’ve noticed as well. How hard it is to clean and replace thermal paste on laptop CPU’s/GPU’s or bare die’s. I put enough on and spread. But seems that I always have put more than I feel comfortable with and I get the same experience as you 🤔 I’ve been building and fixing tech for 12 years now so it’s not like I don’t know what I’m doing. I’ve messed with a full range of products from hand held to large servers and so much strange in between

[@justsomedudecalledluqman]

"here is my hand for scale" Me : *panik because i have biggest hand among my friend*

[@mepm]

If it's anything like the NUCs you should be able to undervolt the CPU for better thermals. Does it support XMP profiles? I would also be cutting better ventilation holes in the bottom and raising it up with feet.

[@matthewlydon4641]

I would be curious to see the effects of throttlestop on the CPU especially it being a laptop CPU. Using it on my laptop shaved off 10-15 degrees!

[@Tarodenaro]

Maybe we can 3d print the lower part of the chassis and create a makeshift mount (also makeshift connector) for one 140mm PWM fan. that should help with the airflow problem.

[@salvadorterrazas4943]

Great video as usual! please do a liquid cooled follow up Dawid, it would be nice!

[@334nickg]

i would love to see that sitting under a 240 AIO to see if it performs any better.

[@Demosthenas]

I would actually like to see the temps on the i7 version. Without it thernal throttling I think it would be much better.