This VTUBER Was So Horrible, 3 Documents Were Written About Him...

[@katnchat]

There's another doc made by a creator involving StaticTokyo, who was cited to have made videos about this situation as well (allegedly with false information and misconstruing things). Here's the doc for your information: docs.google.com/document/d/1_6dWZP8VmMIvt2vS316hsWeVkkfcSOm3GV6Mx2Qg_lc/edit#heading=h.8kjcddxs6nzy I would normally cover it in it's own video, but I leave for vacation in 2 days and don't want to not give that topic it's due diligence by rushing it!

[@ahmadkhairul337]

You should be on that vacation forever 😁

[@Hazel23Van]

Go after gura for being a Lolicon if you don’t think it will be a dent on your career

[@sugarzblossom8168]

​@@ahmadkhairul337 I certainly wouldn't mind relaxing for ever

[@JohnnyMitchwood]

Life would be so much better if you hadn't targeted that loli vtuber group. Like what the actual hell is wrong with you?

[@AngelSharma-on8bg]

sorry but how is your content educational when u can't even know what loli is and r spreading false information by the way i already reported u lets see how long u last glhf

[@totallynotrazz]

To anyone who needs this, remember, if you ever feel sad, or scared, or anxious around someone, It most likely means they're treating you horribly.

[@Glitchica]

Hi I'm Glitchica, thank you again for covering this as it helps us inform the community. For clarification my part in the document Obsidian and I put out, my part ended after the "I'm not one for dropping names...". Everything else was written by Obsidian. Bapha using autism as an excuse for his poor behavior further infuriated Obsidian rightfully so as she is an autistic person. All credit goes to Obsidian for compiling all our stories together for the joint doc. 👍

[@privateone2023]

Glitchica, you are a liar. The only reason you are saying this is because you are afraid of Obi. You and Bapha stopped talking a long time ago. The only reason you are chiming in is to stay on the good side of Obi. Because you know she will send her Cult after you. You have no backbone. Why are you afraid of an unstable woman, she is upset because she came in last during awards ceremony and the guy she thinks is her boyfriend is not, he tells people that he uses her for views.

[@privateone2023]

Most people that is apart of this community has Autism, Bipolar, Depression Etc. Bapha was only being honest. All of this is ignorant and evil. Do you really believe Obi is your friend. Obi doesn't know how to be a friend or honest. She is emotionally disturbed.

[@cc_the_rebel]

@@privateone2023bait used to be believable

[@thesmashdancers105]

@@privateone2023 pov bapha alt acc💀

[@Louca-pv9ne]

@@privateone2023 your comment is confusing. "most people that is apart of this community has autism, bipolar, depression etc" that is exactly why people shouldnt use autism or any other disorder as an excuse for poor behavior because most people struggle with something yet still act like normal humans. How is trying to excuse his behavior with the fact he has autism "just being honest". Autistic males often often get passes for acting violently/ inappropriately and its infuriating.

[@lilblkrose]

The insistence for calls sound very likely to hide reciepts more than venting to a friend, while also finding a punching bag and get an emotional high 💀

[@lilblkrose]

PS the constanr su*cide threat too

[@katnchat]

fr it’s so weird and demanding

[@Melodyofthesea78]

​@@katnchat I will say Perfect Blue is actually good it's about the idiol Industry in Japan. I watched it myself when I was 16. But it's rated R for a very good reason and 14 year olds shouldn't be watching it....(but I should talk....I use to watch a LOT of R rated horror movies as a kid) lol

[@privateone2023]

​@@lilblkroseYou should look at yourself, do you think suicide is a joke. Hope no one you love ever commit or attemt suicide. So pathetic to say something like that, I feel sorry for you.

[@privateone2023]

​You think a person considering Suicide or attempt Suicide is funny. I hope you never have to experience a friend or family member considering suicide.

[@SecondBestArtMuseum]

“Friend for 8 months” and he felt that comfortable demanding your time and calling at 2-3AM?! I’ve known my best friend for about 10 years now and I wouldn’t do that unless it was a genuine emergency.

[@lilblkrose]

2-3AM to scream and cuss too 💀...

[@itzrachei]

😭

[@FluffyMarsu]

I don't even do that to my FIANCEE... we've been together 7 years...I called her one time at 3am asking "why do you have a club penguin rewritten acc" only bc I knew she wasn't busy

[@NanaBowana]

The only time my friend has called me on the phone is when his dog died. Something has to be genuinely wrong for someone I'm not related to to be calling me on the phone because I'm genuinely allergic to phone calls 😂

[@lilblkrose]

​@@FluffyMarsuClubPenquin😂...

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

This Bapha guy woke up and just decided to meet every checklist marker of being emotionally abusive huh

[@samamies88]

he saw a list of red flags and started playing bingo.... or rather saw it as a bucket list

[@StarryRuins]

The fact that Bapha calls people when they are asleep or just waking up feels like a lesser version of sleep control abusers will do.

[@privateone2023]

Didn't your father beat you and your mother.

[@hannah2797]

This! I was thinking the same thing the more I listened to the video. By causing a lack of sleep, that sleep debt accumulates and then it makes it easier for the abuser to get what they want from their victims as well as keep their victims vulnerable and scared. Which, sadly, is exactly what happened to the people in this case. :( I'm glad they had good people around to help support and get them out of the terror he caused. While I do also think the calls were partly to avoid having a 'paper trail,' it sounds more primarily for the purpose of the control.

[@imright77]

shoutout to everyone who's written a doc, whether you're the first person to come out or the nth, or even if you're making one in response to something because dear Lord I have tried and it is horrid. I don't know if I'm lazy or it's just mentally taxing (or maybe both), but I literally can't.

[@FluffyMarsu]

it's reallyyyy hard and extremely taxing both mentally and like physically with all the evidence gathering and what not

[@novacore1505]

me with absolutely no interest in vtubers running to all ur videos when they posted because im nosy and want the tea

[@midnightstudios35]

REAL

[@Xanniebyte]

Real

[@miyvkiii]

SO TRUE

[@MakkyMaks]

Literally 🤣

[@从W]

fffffffffrrrrrrrrrrr asf

[@SafiriaVT]

I’m one of the people who posted my experience with Bapha in that document. He sexualized me and made disgusting comments about me and my voice. Surge involved himself, then proceeded to attack me for including that information in my experience. Thank you for sharing this.

[@privateone2023]

How did he sexualize you. You need to be careful making that kind of statement. It could be considered slander.

[@SafiriaVT]

@@privateone2023 it’s not slander. He told me on many occasions he wanted to fuck me, I barely knew him them. When he heard me take care of my nieces, he thought they were my children and stated he should have been their father. Before you sit there and call it slander, look at the other proof posted. He had a pattern of sexualizing people, not just me.

[@creativelychandra]

I’m so sorry you had to deal with that.

[@naniidoodles]

@@privateone2023 She isn't obligated to tell you + typical of a man to defend another man with horrid behavior. From the video itself, there is countless proof of how he sexualized other creators and they are definitely not the first and neither are they the last

[@beeIovely]

i will say perfect blue is an incredible animated movie that comments on the dissonance that happens within when you live a double life as an entertainer, or have a "persona," a public face. the clip portraying sexual violence isn't meant to make you enjoy it. it's meant to make you uncomfortable, because it's a frightening scene. but because of that - you should NOT be showing it to children. ESPECIALLY without warning. when i recommend this move to people it's always with a gentle warning. even if i'm speaking to an adult. sitting kids down to watch PERFECT BLUE is fucking crazy

[@privateone2023]

You are naive, you are being manipulated by a jealous hateful bully. Bully With a Bush wanted your attention and she got it. She manipulate and con people. She has gone as far to black mail people that didn't support her attack on Bapha and Surge. BullyBush is pure Evil. Karma is something .😂😂

[@DamienDreadvt]

Ex-friend of Bapha here, I'm glad this information came out to show who he really was. I noticed some of his red flags, but I had no idea he was this bad.

[@privateone2023]

You were never a friend of Bapha, stop seeking attention. No one cares about you or who you are.

[@privateone2023]

You were never friends with Bapha. Stop looking for attention.

[@DamienDreadvt]

@privateone2023 alright bro. Tell yourself that

[@nat4434]

​@@privateone2023 How would you know whether they were friends or not? Are you Bapha?

[@sailorenthusiast]

I know this is a tiny part of the video, but I would just like to clarify that Perfect Blue isn’t some 50 Shades of Grey style film. It’s a horror anime that’s more like Oshi No Ko, but made way before ONK. I highly recommend watch Super Eyepatch Wolf’s video about it, but the general gist is that it’s a film about a woman going through the absolute wringer after graduating from her idol work to become a film actress.

[@yuki97kira]

I hate people who wants others to care about their wellbeing but them cannot takes care of other's wellbeing

[@katnchat]

YES THIS!!

[@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache]

​@katliente they were talking about you harassing smaller channels

[@JohnnyMitchwood]

​@@katnchatgirl you are so dumb they were referring to your hate campaign towards a loli vtuber group.

[@idranksomuchjuice4061]

@@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache

[@kristen8954]

@@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustachecrazy. You’re lying for attention? Get therapy lmao

[@rybonska]

now that i think about it, maybe he always called because he didn't want people to get proof of him being a bad person.

[@shelfrelated]

2 weeks late but absolutely. I knew a guy in a similar situation, except they're also a predator on top of it. Whenever he would get into a problem with anybody, he'd DM like 10-20 different people in the community and try to get HIS side of the story out so the other person has no chance to say their perspective. But he always prioritized venting through voice chats and calls, which made it harder to get dirt on him.

[@yuki97kira]

Bapha reminded me of this one guy on dating apps i met that had the emotional intelligence of a banana. We didnt even talk fir a day and he had the audacity ti demands for calls, video calls and called me at 3 am, calling me without asking etc etc

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@yuki97kira can I use "emotional intelligence of a banana" for my ex?

[@yuki97kira]

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 yes

[@Tsukiyumi3]

Oh naaahhh ☠️☠️

[@creativelychandra]

That’s so scary.

[@yuki97kira]

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 yes

[@Vash-Venture]

Honestly, I'm willing to bet part of the reason he demanded so many calls is because he didn't want any evidence of his shitty behavior leaking. I've noticed that tends to be a trend with awful people.

[@hitoriissleepy]

or maybe because it’s easier to communicate via voice?

[@Vash-Venture]

@@hitoriissleepy If that was the case, he wouldn't have attempted to call her so many times at extremely unreasonable times in the early morning. Constant 3am calls? And she was asleep for almost every single one? No, that's not what was happening here.

[@privateone2023]

​@Vash-Venture l know for a fact she was calling and talking to him too. She was upset, she felt that Bapha didn't support the Black V Tubers. Her pretend boyfriend threatened to jump Bapha at Twitch Con

[@romeunleashed2]

@@privateone2023 Where is your proof on this? Also if this is the case why didn't Bapha come out and say any of this?

[@privateone2023]

😊Do you know him, you are making a judgment on person based on something you heard, rumors. Don't be so naive and believe everything you here and make hurtful comments about someone.

[@someweirdperson1]

Watched the video. Bapha reminds me of a friend I used to have. Whenever I said “no” they always said “why?” and it always infuriated me (this was in a game and trading was one of the main mechanics so it isn’t serious) Bapha is much worse and I hope one day he can change his behavior and fix himself. Him demanding time and being inconsiderate of others is absolutely ridiculous.

[@Steampunkfox143]

And if you said " Because I don't want to/feel like it" did they say "That's not a good reason/excuse"? If so I had the same kind of friend. It was exhausting

[@creatureoflegend2635]

It is never acceptable to call or text someone in the middle of the night unless it’s an extreme life-threatening emergency or you fucked up with timezones (like if you live in diff side of the planet and forgot that it’s the middle of the night for them. In which case, apologize & don’t do it again).

[@iexist6392]

this and if ur both insomniacs, which is obviously not the case w this situation

[@creatureoflegend2635]

@@iexist6392 yeah, that’s the only other case

[@Monochrome2004]

@@iexist6392 yea me and my friends only actually do group calls at like late evening/nighttime and sometimes go on until 3am (we went til 5am one time). we all live on the same island and are active and available throughout the day so i have no idea why we all collectively wait until the witching hour to meet up but everyone's on board with it so we do it (and if someone is too tired to join then well thats fine too they dont have to join)

[@Redflagnabbimahazardsign]

But.. but that's when the best memes are sent 😢

[@Moogchungus]

This videos back up now which is good. I saw it got falsely copystruck by an artsit who claimed the video for art theft but it looks like their actual intention was to bury the biggest video about bapha Im glad its back up cuz i didnt get a chance to fully watch it

[@adrianna4846]

I was wondering what happened. It got taken down right in the middle of me watching it

[@bakawaki]

This Bapha person is so self-centered. When someone tells you no they mean no.

[@Mochiidoggo777]

It crazy that he also deleted his Twitter but still has his twitch still up... praying for the victims in this situation.

[@MarbleVirus]

The insistence on calling is that it's much harder to keep records of a call than it is keeping texts or anything like that. Since even if it's a discord call, depending on your state you need to clarify you're recording the other person if you want to keep some tabs of any freaky shit going on.

[@guardianofcreativity4860]

I was rolling my eyes so hard when you read out his response, then nodded along as you beautifully broke down why his statement was awful. The audacity for him to say one conversation would have saved the friendship is astonishing. He just wanted one more conversation to manipulate himself out of trouble and he’s mad he couldn’t.

[@notnormaljiji]

“They’re not big enough to put a dent in me”

[@chromaticgoku1323]

Yo Perfect Blue is one of my fave movies but showin that to ppl with NO TRIGGER WARNINGS and to KIDS U DON'T KNOW IS INSANE

[@egman7755]

FR I love perfect blue and all of Satoshi Kon’s work but I won’t lie, a lot of the scenes in perfect blue deeply disturbed me and I don’t usually get disturbed or triggered that easily. Showing the movie to someone with no trigger warnings AND kids is absolutely insane.

[@alicetheneko7529]

I was literally talking to my brother about this situation. He saw no problem with there being no trigger warning for this film. He apparently didn’t see it as Bapha’s responsibility and said the people wanting to watch it should have researched it before watching while also saying that kids watch R rated films all the time. He doesn’t seem to understand the clear difference between a movie theatre and a movie night on Discord.

[@chromaticgoku1323]

@@alicetheneko7529 that's....mildly concerning

[@alicetheneko7529]

⁠@@chromaticgoku1323agreed. I’m just completely stunned that he would blame the viewers rather than blaming Bapha

[@SelestialCatharsis]

absolutely floored when you said he did a watch party with PERFECT BLUE omg those poor kids!! How do you ever think watching one of the most notorious and graphic psychological thriller/ horror movies in a party with minors is okay!?

[@NoeActually]

There is nothing that pisses me off more than people overacting and being confrontational for the sake of being entertaining… and people finding others being trampled on being equally as bad. Since if they didn’t have incentive to do the behavior there wouldn’t be as many. Then they wonder why people distance themselves from them (talking about the collab). And blaming autism? Uuuuuuuhhhhh

[@_dragonsnap]

23:35 It's literally like blowing a kids candles at their birthday 😭

[@Neihael]

THE DOCS JUST KEEP GOING BRO AHAHA. also relatable on the not wanting to call

[@stargateandsc2]

I had a mini panic attack realizing this vid was an hour long after getting hooked in. Well, good bye next hour 😂

[@LukiBlu]

Honestly never notice bc Its usually 20mins but...yikes🥲🤌✨️

[@StudVA]

at 16:57 timestamp, where messi replied to a now deleted tweet, someone named usagii_akihiko made a comment about how coming out with the doc and how messi's tweet was "condescending" towards Bapha. Usagii said and i quote "lesson learned right? sounds very condescending. " Thats where it started. I have screenshots of what went down when they first made that comment as well. they then continued to invalidate Obi experience by saying "i have a narcissist mother i know what REAL manipulation is" so me along with multiple people in the vtubing community saw this and called out usagii. They also, in that same thread said that they were NOT apologizing. They then made a tweet apologizing after multiple people called them out for being invalidating towards obi saying that they learned MORE about what Bapha did...when they literally first replied under a tweet where Messii made a qt of Obi's doc where it fully explains with screenshots of Baphas behavior. So to us it looked like they only apologized because people called them out. and then usagii turned around and labeled it as "harassment", I am good friends with both Messii and Obi and i was one of the first people ti jump on that comment very quickly since that was the first thing i saw on twitter when i woke up. A lot of people were invalidating Obi's experience and it was honestly heartbreaking to see. Yes i am happy that other victims got their support but its actually so saddening to see how Obi's situation wasnt taken as seriously as the other victims and how her experience was invalidated. I am just happy Bapha got called out for his behavior and Obi and the victims can hopefully recover and take this time to relax. They deserve it after the hellish few weeks theyve been through calling out Bapha. Now for Glitch's doc, i read a couple of pages of it but i didnt get a chance to read ALL of it because i had audio editing commissions to finish and IRL stuff at home to take care. But i will most definitely read it. Any other victims that came out about Bapha my full support is sent your way and hopefully you can recover with due time from the draining things yall went through

[@GuiltyThornASMR]

Stud, usagii is in these comments painting themselves as victim.

[@StudVA]

@@GuiltyThornASMR DEADASS????

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@StudVA H u h

[@StudVA]

@@GuiltyThornASMR i aint even know usagii was in here tbh-

[@privateone2023]

Mentally unstable Obi is not a Victim. You are naive and gullible to think that she is. The only thing wrong with Obi is that she got last place in the V Tubers Award . She got Jealous and started all this, having a childish Melt Down.she came in last place. SHE HAS NO TALENT.

[@从W]

I love when she posts long videos so I can put them in background while drawing/working

[@ブロキーさん]

nah fr i love listening to these while surfing web or jus on discord fr

[@katnchat]

yay!! tomorrow’s vid is pt2 to this saga and it’s also an hour long 👀

[@TheCaliMack]

​@@katnchat THE FUQ YOU MEAN THERE'S MORE??????

[@从W]

@@katnchat Ooo, Can't wait!!

[@JohnnyMitchwood]

​@@katnchatget rid of the loli vtuber group video for misinformation you witch.

[@dj_afterburnz]

Don’t let yourselves get manipulated like I did, guys.

[@katnchat]

you’re just a victim of bapha like everyone else covered and it’s absolutely not your fault ❤ so sorry you had to go through that ;-;

[@zukazealanee]

@@katnchat And the channels you got suspended due to your lies are victims of yours.

[@Excallius243]

@@zukazealanee "lies"

[@romeunleashed2]

@@zukazealanee You know Rev also is spreading misinformation and doing what he says he is against right? He says it is okay to dislike lolis and is now attacking kat for disliking lolis and showing the problematic stuff with it.

[@zukazealanee]

@@romeunleashed2 Your mental gymnastics is impressive. Since you lack the intelligence, I'll explain it to you. There is a difference between saying it's ok to dislike something and lying about and mispresenting what that something is to show why you dislike it.

[@demonninetaledfox]

Perfect blue is an excellent movie but it IS a rated R psychological horror about the idol industry, stalking, and sexual (and normal tbh) violence. It's def not for everyone and should absolutely not be shown to minors.

[@Cleyplaysgames]

its kinda funny I came across this, this vtuber used to be part of my friend group like 5 years ago long before he was a streamer and i cut him off and the group completely because of this EXACT behavior. crazy stuff.

[@Joe_334]

47:39 Thank you so much for putting these narcs on blast. This has been so so annoying to deal with. They would bring up their past relationship as if it were something others would be interested in hearing. Of course we would ONLY hear what their partner did to them, but you wouldn't hear what they did to instigate the situation Absolutely, no self reflection whatsoever. You can count on them putting you through the unwarranted self reflection over this false sense of guilt.

[@privateone2023]

What are you talking about about?

[@-.-._---_--_._-]

An hour??? Time to get productive with this playing the the bg

[@Moogchungus]

Bro set back the black vtuber community 50 years😭🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ddbob1]

No he didn't that's such an absurd thing to say lmao

[@privateone2023]

The Black VTuber Community was and never will go anywhere. They are too hateful to each other and Racist. The entire community is a joke.

[@dinner1232]

nah racists are going to be racist don't blame this dude for people being racist

[@er_cl]

take a shot everytime they say "can you call" like omg no go away ffs i'm the same as you (preferring to text so i can articulate my words correctly and not feel under pressure to answer immediately) and this sounds like my worst nightmare of a "friend" to deal with

[@VivixenvVT]

I remember watching bapha when he first debuted... always had a weird feeling from watching him

[@privateone2023]

I just think you are very strange and weird.

[@Cutestdisaster3]

Just wanted to say that I love hearing commentary from Kat it's really enjoyable. Anyone reading this hope you enjoy your day

[@creativelychandra]

That was one wild ride. People like that are the worst and are always making excuses for their behavior. “Oh, I’m autistic” or “Oh, I’m a Sagittarius”. No…you’re just an a-hole. Like, take accountability. Ugh I had no idea the video was over an hour until I opened the app to make a comment. Stayed for the whole thing. I hope the victims are doing better now.

[@sageneese]

I've learned not to get myself pulled into people's dramas, if you have a problem with someone..talk with them and resolve it

[@Georgia_Grayce]

Oh my goodness you’re growing SO QUICK!!! I’m so happy I found you. These are my favorite buds to listen to while I draw.

[@ShinigamiSleep]

My ex did EXACT SAME THING with forced calls. He would spam calls on and on until I would pick up, and he'd blow up on me. Then after dropping a call, he'd text shit like ''why are you acting like this, I love you so much'', and when I'd get angry and tell him to leave me be, he'd lowkey screenshot those parts, send to our mutual friends and be like '' LOOK, SHE'S SO MEAN''. It happened so so many times, that once I just literally recorded our call, and when he tried same shit with screenshots, I sent those friends the entire call. Mans was burned down instantly.

[@abinnohr6497]

The covert narcissism is so strong. Autism and narcissism going hand in hand is EXTREMELY rare but can happen. You normally can't be both, but narcissism is almost always made, not born. Everyone has some level of narcissism but some have NPD moulded from their own parents/family. Although I'll remain on the fence, I do hope all parties seek therapy and move on from this.

[@Illumistvr]

Hearing this drama happening with Bapha severely upsets me as I was a member in his community and I would refer to him as my vtuber father. I feel so sorry for the victim of him, I'm sorry.

[@nill1584]

My nosy ass who’s not in this space at all watching this

[@kira7299]

47:32 as someone who has had many abusive exs in the past with SA and emotional abuse its really upsetting to hear you say this. Its taken many years of building myself up and seeing a therapist. It took me YEARS to be okay with the idea that its not my fault. I really like your content but this take was just off. Cycle of abuse happens and its hard to leave it. Should definately not generalise peoples experience in this way.

[@midnightstudios35]

Daily dose of vtuber drama is my new way to live. Love your content, Kat♡

[@katnchat]

awwwh tysm!!!❤

[@Popper_Drop]

47:50 I just want to pop in and say that "in both options you're still the problem" in reference to having many bad relationships with you either having "bad taste" or "being the problem" - Kind of hurtful and not always true. In my case at least I had a terrible showcase of what relationships *should* be like from my parents along with undiagnosed ASD for the longest time which drove me through a total of about 13 or so relationships where over 80% of them were toxic, bad and gave me some form of cptsd added on to the rest of it. I've always been communicative, loving and loyal but that never stopped me from being degraded, walked over, manipulated, gaslighted and abused. Unless the problem was me because I was undiagnosed and couldn't have known any better - this is not shade, I know where the sentiment is coming from and it's behind a heated discussion but I just wanted to add in my perspective because it truly isn't always the case.

[@geekynerddemon]

I understand what you mean, and it was worded badly in the video. It seems you were attracted to toxic love because that was your perception of love. This is not your fault. It is, however, your problem to fix, or hopefully, you have already fixed it. Life is unfair. Sometimes we have consequences for someone else's actions.

[@BlameJuliet]

I stumbled upon you last night and I have learned that I am a nosey biss lmao thank you for the deep dives 😂

[@ItzKoifish]

Genuinely so upset that SuRge out of all people was defending someone like B. I am a fan of SuRge, his covers are great, he has good vocal range. But seeing him be involved at the end and protecting B because he got “manipulated”, is just saddening. I hope he can realize his mistakes and further improve himself.

[@privateone2023]

Stop attacking Surge. He can defend anyone he wants. You are bullying him. Your strange behavior is considered bullying and harassment. If you don't know, it's a Crime.

[@Angelinyah]

​@@privateone2023 SuRge is a weirdo who has done enough bad things to be called out for. This is neither bullying nor harassment.

[@privateone2023]

@Angelinyah Yes it is. I know you feel that because you are on the internet, you can say and treat people anyway you like. You can't.

[@shanelemagne]

No one in these stories ever has DND so they don't get woken up by insane people at 4am lol

[@NXZTX]

“They’re not big enough to put a dent in me”

[@zukazealanee]

Meanwhile a channel 10x her size exposed her lmao.

[@ghostlyrobber]

bruh a perfect blue watch party is crazy(negative) like i need to talk about this because incase you dont just watch that film casually as a fun movie night, like the film is really good ddont get me wrong its actually well writen,animateddd, andd tels an important story about how w dangerouss idol culture andd being somoone famous can be for some people, so once you know what your getting into it actually makes a goodd film. but like for a comunity night??? ITS SO FUCKIGN HEAVY! its an intense af emotional film!! some spoilers ahead but for context as to why thats not a great watch party to just toss out there even more with kids around without fore warnings to any people who are watching . . it follows a japanese idol whos manager forces them to go into acting, she then becomes a victim to INTENSE stalking from an obsessive fan who even has a website thats like a diary of her(the idol's) actual daily life, all as she starts working on the set of a murder mystery only for actual murders start to take place around her, its all about her mental decline asss an idol being harrassed and stalked that even involves an attempt on her life, an attempt to assault her, and so much more like having that as a casual movie night is unreal ?!?!?!? even when you know what ur getting into that movie is really heavy and dark.

[@Skyefrost.]

wow. matron is so motherly and sweet omg poor her.

[@privateone2023]

Where did you get this from. How is she sweet. She lies, bullies, and she's a racist. She threatens people in the v tub😮 mail one v tuber if he didn't side with her that she would reveal all the private conversations they had . She goes after talented v tubers to destroy their reputation to uplift herself. The only talent she has is lying and hurting people.

[@privateone2023]

Where did you get this from. She is not Sweet. She is an Evil Monster with nothing but hate and lies in her heart.

[@LongDeadArtist]

You know it's bad when kat's video is an hour long

[@katnchat]

tomorrow’s vid is part 2 to this about surgevt and it’s also an hour long 😅 (god bless my editor impactron for working overtime omg)

[@arbornvt]

That's going to be crazy.​@@katnchat

[@StudVA]

@@katnchat shoutout and a huge thanks to your editor LMAO theyre doing WONDERS

[@anxiousopossum]

I had a man do something similar to me, would insist on calling me to vent all the time, would go on and on about how much he disliked women, make uncomfortable comments about his girlfriend, etc. He was so angry and I felt anxious and upset whenever he was around. I was a really lonely woman in college and was trying to make friends, so I put up with it longer than I should have and didn’t feel safe cutting him off. I didn’t have any friends to turn to help. He made me cry so much, would insist on my time and raise his voice all the time. I suspect he didn’t see me as a “valid” woman because of my looks, so that’s why he complained about women to me. I eventually blocked his number and told him when he caught me in person my phone had broke, thankfully I was able to avoid him completely after a semester. I wish I would have had the self worth and bravery to have cut him out immediately and tell him how unacceptable his behavior had been.

[@Aloysius_OHare]

That is CRAZY how abusive a person can be. Dude is easily hostile about people talking crap about him.....Like GROW UP BABY BOY. People talk crap, its what they do. For him to be this level of aggressive is just insane. The emotional imbalance with this kid is baffling.. Bapha is a man baby. His pity party was just pathetic. I couldn't help but laugh at how much he's trying to hit on Matron and pity bait her.

[@privateone2023]

You are pathetic. Bapha was wrong for apologizing to anyone. He truly believed that Bully With A Bush was his friend. They would talk all the time. However, once he won the Digital Trophy, she became hateful and jealous. She is attempting to bring down other V tubers to lift herself up. Now, how pathetic is that. She has no real talent, so she creates drama to get attention. But, I can promise you, this will not turn out so good for her.😂😂

[@jamille101]

Omg I just realized this is a whole hour?! Love that but side note I just discovered these black vtubers and was drawn to bapha because of his vtuber model and boom he’s canceled after the awards….the fastest cancellation I’ve ever experienced. Ppl really do suck

[@Auburnisntmyrealname]

Idk why but watching you is refreshing

[@kaitosdogfr]

Bro this is a perfect video to listen to while drawing. Also as someone who went through an abusive narcissist ex bff for most of my life to where its created heavy mental struggles for me to this day, I really hope obsidion, messi and glitch heal in anyway they can.

[@drpixelgr]

i always knew there is drama in the VTubeing community, but when it's someone you actually know, you've spoken to, you've spent time with... it just feels different ... i used to have a great image about Bapha, had great times in VCs, but after what he did to a couple of friends of mine, i can't really remember what that image i had looked like.

[@MangartTv]

Why there is no one mad in the comments, but 3k likes for 2k dislikes ?? Did the dislike get botted lol

[@rlaouse]

me when I spreqd misinfo 😂

[@Zesty_n00dle]

41:12 using the analogy that if he hit his gf behind closed doors and then tried saying it was private isnt at all the situation. And then you gave a situation that is exactly what he is going through (family being sick). Yes hes done wrong, but he is right by saying that no one told him personally that he was making obi upset. He was going to a friend about his brother being sick. That shouldn't have been mentioned, especially when you gave the exact same situation. Using people as emotional punching bags isn't ok, but they also need to communicate when things get too much for them. Obi would tell him later and then never did. He was told later, waited, and then was met with obi falling asleep or upset at him. He was not told that any of this was affecting obi. Yes, he did wrong. He needs to speak to a professional instead of putting others through this, but obi was also in the wrong for making him wait and then never calling him. This wasnt an issue of him knowingly overstepping, its an issue of no communication. This couldve been handled privately. Glitch did the right thing cutting him off when they realized he was causing them too many issues. They communicated how he was making him feel. (Someone who's been on both sides of this. Im not on anyones side, yes im defending his story because i can see where hes coming from and because theres not really any thought on the entirety of this. Its only obis side and glitch's side with a statement of him going to a friend) Edit - he should go to therapy. Him saying hes going to hit people is simply something he needs to work on. Even if he needs to get it(his emotions) out of his system.

[@xcchinohasmovedtothenewchannel]

Wow, this is just absolutely pathetic behavior from that Bapha person indeed.

[@ADruidInFaerun]

There are so many ppl out there like this that just want to steal your peace.

[@jekblom123]

Like people who get your channel suspended for no reason.

[@lovexiani]

you should see revdesu/revs video cause he just talked about her and you'll see why

[@romeunleashed2]

@@lovexiani I watched revs video and he is so off field. You guys are literally defending people who have avatars that are 6 and minors yet being very sexual. Which is illegal and is still classed as CP. Rev also talks about freedom of speech and stuff yet he is being a massive hypocrite with this shit. You guys are also being hypocrites saying she shouldn't send hate and shouldn't send her viewers yet what are you guys doing right now?

[@ez4127]

@@romeunleashed2 not to be mean or anything but her words from twitch (literally a clip) "u guys aint gonna put a dent in me" after the drama so like this whole "harassment" aint gonna do anything to her as long as she dont mention much then this whole thing gone

[@romeunleashed2]

@@ez4127 What i do want to know with that clip though is the context behind it. Cus on its own it can mean different things.

[@aybee8888]

Hello! I was the artist for Glitch's commission, and I'd like to say here that she and I sorted it out in DMs, and everything's totally cool! The tl;dr is that it was all very much a misunderstanding. As far as I was aware, the point of me being on the stream was to explain my process and decisions, so that's what I did. I didn't like how much Bapha was trying to push for my ideas and my ideas alone to be the variable of how this design would turn out though, but I tried to go with the flow since I'd never been on a stream before, and just assumed it was an energy difference between Bapha and Glitch/me. I genuinely was trying my best, and if I knew sooner about her unhappiness with it, I would've fixed it to the best of my ability. Afterwards because of her expressing discomfort to him privately, he fed me various postulations that she was upset that she didn't get the "clout" she wanted, and that she probably never wanted to speak to either of us ever again. I could only be left dumbfounded, not knowing what went wrong. I didn't really know her, so I didn't feel much at liberty to inquire further on a situation I ultimately knew little about. So I left one last work in progress to leave the ball in her court so I wouldn't stir up any more problems, since my number one fear was being an intrusion on either of their streams and comforts. She left a react on the WIP message, which doesn't give notifications on discord, and since she'd never sent one before in response to hashing stuff out prior, out of fear of making things worse, I just kinda kept waiting until I would get an actual notification - I wouldn't progress forward until I knew for certain she was cool with proceeding at all, or with what I'd provided. I do deeply appreciate her wanting to help me, and I've told her as much in our last conversation, since that's all I knew going in - that the two of them wanted to support my work, and this would be a fun opportunity to do so. But ultimately, due to the nervousness and unfamiliarity on both of our ends, it wasn't the best idea in retrospect. I wish I could go back in time and just back out of the whole ordeal, so neither of us would've felt any sort of pressure.

[@romeunleashed2]

Honestly what is sounded like was he was using you to control her in the future and also control you in the future. If it went through and GLITCH accepted it and all that and it was a big hit. He would of gone to her and say see told you my ideas where the best and should listen to me more and trust me more. While going to you and trying to puff you up and do the whole see you should listen to me more and trust yourself. It was a manipulation tactic that failed which is lucky in hindsight for both you and GLITCH.

[@thelying2594]

I had an ex friend like this who wanted to get with me after 2 weeks of knowing me, when that didn’t work theyd unpromptly be sexual with me and make comments about how they wanted to do things to me. Its not fun having stuff like that slowly building only to realize it was actually wrong 8 months later.

[@thunderdrum325]

it sucks for a family member to not be well, but if you punch someone because your upset about it, that doesnt make punching someone okay. If its affected you in a way you dont realize, in this example, you still ended up punching someone, so apologize for that instead of blaming it on the family news. Then, if they dont accept the apology for being punched, then thats that. Of course obviously, his behavior had always been this way and not because of family, and demand to be forgiven. also at around 55 minutes about the artist, i was told there is art for yourself and art for others: for sanity reasons, put more care into your own art rather than art for others as they're taste isnt the same as yours. You couldve made your best pose yet, but if the commissioner doesnt like it, your just gonna have to change it. (not saying the artist said that, just a thought i remembered)

[@alicetheneko7529]

What really gets me is he showed an R rated film when minors were present. On top of a nonexistent 18+ rule. That in itself raises major red flags.

[@notnormaljiji]

“They’re not big enough to put a dent in me”

[@privateone2023]

​@@notnormaljijiTry Me, I can put more than a dent in you.

[@privateone2023]

You are a Sick Liar.

[@detectiveluck2899]

Well, you might as well signed your own career’s death warrant with the amount of negativity you’re gonna get.

[@mallowtonmouse]

People who get overly attached very very quickly are very scary

[@privateone2023]

You are scary to look at.

[@titansaint]

using your brother's situation is beyond gross too. that point is something i'm tripping up over throughout this entire video. if i found out one of my family members was using my illness as a way to emotionally manipulate other people i'd disown them right then and there.

[@zukazealanee]

These people can't exist without someone feeling sorry for them.

[@notnormaljiji]

“They’re not big enough to put a dent in me”

[@privateone2023]

You are pathetic to accuse Bapha of using his brothers illness, it's a big part of his everyday life. Sometimes it's touch and go with his brother. His brother needs a bone marrow transplant, the family has been going through this for years. Baphas brother is very proud of him.

[@privateone2023]

​@zukazealanejust stop with the 5 year old B.S. His brother is very sick and needs a bone marrow transplant. Stop making a fool of yourself

[@zukazealanee]

@@privateone2023 How ironic, considering how naive you are.

[@RabbitArtz]

The first part kinda reminded me bout Tora Karu,idek why.

[@aminaa5824]

He was that mad because someone said he made them uncomfortable? Bro how is that something to be mad about? Biggest red flag everrr

[@Cozy_Sora45]

I love the color of your hair kat!

[@yamiunabun]

WHAUTD? I REMEMBER HIM OMDS I WAS HOPING TO SEE HIM GROW ONE DAY 😭😭 People can really just turn around and show their true nature for real and im not here for it 😕

[@hathynhighley8548]

Seems like a great drama and hate Chanel here. Reminds me of Leafy

[@NevirSurrender]

Someone being so adamant to say everything on call definitely feels like they want to do it so that there's no proof for whatever it is they want to say

[@lilkeyla5769]

omg.. i just realized i knew of this person, only from a collab they did with two vtubers i watched.. damn..

[@privateone2023]

And so what.🤔

[@archangelrapheal5231]

Bapha is one heck of a character, that's pretty narcissistic, bapha must have narcissistic disorder or something, this person is a very toxic person and has alterior motives. It's crazy how this person guilt trips, abuses and manipulates people just to satisfy his own needs, as long as it benefits them they don't care about anyone else. So toxic, sexist, and has very unhinged behavior.

[@syntazzz]

Not to be that guy but can we stop jumping the gun and diagnosing every toxic person with narcissistic personality disorder? It only adds on to the bastardization and stigma of the term. A lot of people with NPD struggle with depression, and substance abuse due to their sensitivity to criticism and social withdrawal. Not saying that everyone who has NPD are saints but rather, like with other mental disorders, need help too. Edit TLDR: Over the internet diagnosing is bad and people who suffer from NPD need help.

[@quinnydragonlynx]

From all this vtubers out there, the last person I thought I was gonna see on one of your vtube drama vods was gonna be DJ AfterBurnz. We are good friends, and it just made me laugh seeing him here lol

[@KAZUUUUMOM]

Okay out of context this is actually one of the longest video i watched from you 😮

[@JosiesCloset]

Love hearing vtuber tea saur I know who to avoid as someone who wants to enter the vtuber industry

[@Scampwick69]

Kat !! I'm loving the vtuber vids. Wish there was less drama to be making them though :(

[@Ruemi_Taka5289]

Oh god....well I am not watching Perfect Blue.....I have seen so many movies with a....ahem "grape" scene (god I feel uncomfortable even speaking😖)......Bapha is disgusting....and his behavior is absolutely despicable....I sure hope everyone who were victims of Bapha are recovering well......

[@creepywaffles4783]

This guy sounds like my brother if he was an adult with full control of his life. Oppositional Defiance Disorder with a side of narcissism. Probably other undiagnosed issues too. This guy won’t learn trust me.

[@notnormaljiji]

“They’re not big enough to put a dent in me”

[@privateone2023]

So now you are a Doctor. Perhaps you need to diagnose yourself. You are probably the reason your brother had problems.

[@creepywaffles4783]

@@privateone2023 what? You know nothing about me nor my brother and certainly not our lives. I wasn’t even diagnosing anything just sharing what my brother has. And thanks for blaming me for all the shit I’ve put up with in life.

[@privateone2023]

@creepywaffles4783 so you are sensitive. Every time people attack Bapha, I will strike back. If you can't take it, keep his name out of your post .

[@justaboyontheinternet2636]

I always watch your vids when I'm in the gym even tho I have no interest in the vtubers community, they're just so interesting haha

[@supernova_draws23]

The fact a grown adult is doing this is just so sad😮‍💨

[@privateone2023]

Because she only has attention when she pulls someone else down to lift herself up She has no talent. 17:10

[@neko_atelier]

Just to offer a second perspective on the section where you said people who have horrible taste in men/partners. While I wouldn’t say it’s a fault or problem due to those gravitating towards toxic or exploitative partners as a result of parental or guardian abuse (I was raised by narcissists and it messed up my perception of what a good partner was because I never learned what healthy relationships look like) it is something that needs to be addressed by a licensed and well respected therapist. Your video was very clear though and I almost teared up due to this hitting really close to home for me so I hope I didn’t come off as rude or anything. If I did I apologize.

[@lizxfiasco]

NGL..I really have no interest in Vtubers, but I always come over to your channel for it lol.

[@GHOSERDUDE]

LET'S GOOO! 1 HOUR OF KATLIENTE!

[@katnchat]

hehe :3

[@JohnnyMitchwood]

​@@katnchatdon't try acting innocent you freak.

[@beanofthegreen7377]

I remember Andrawn being hurt about somebody recently and it wasn't until just now while watching this that I figured out who he was talking about. Tbh I would never watch streams that had Bapha in it because he gave off a vibe. Poor everyone who had to deal with this, but I only know Andrawn and I know he was really hurt by this

[@kawaii33366]

I was a victim of bapha too and when I tried to reach out to andrawn he ignored me. So I guess so much for caring about other victims.

[@themandaloriangamingnetwor4964]

Getting those anime vtubers suspended and which has already died down and getting your so called fans to attack and harass them is against the rules on yt. Like god damn your a horrible person for doing this

[@samanthaash3944]

Bruh. The second someone starts demanding answers for why I didn't want to call, is the second they get blocked. I was in a facebook group with this super toxic admin team and I was trying to talk to one of the other mods with my concern. And he just sent voice note after voice note. Convenient. No receipts. I was at work and couldn't listen to them. I asked for it in text. He just kept sending voice notes. I blocked his ass and left the group. No sir. If you don't want there to be receipts of what you're saying, maybe don't say it.

[@AnArtsyAlicat]

okay, seeing the 1hr vid length scared me coz that means that this tea is smthng serious and the vid must not be clipped any shorter 😂

[@notnormaljiji]

“They’re not big enough to put a dent in me”

[@HellBenderVr]

its kinda crazy baf being like that also great vid kat love then videos