This was fine, I guess...

[@hamiltonp58]

Safe is the perfect word to describe this episode. Both in the sense that they played it safe with the general story beats and that I was never worried any of the main characters might die or be harmed.

[@brandenp1187]

Safe because nothing happened 😂. IMO

[@chrismurphyracing94]

I don't know how you thought any of them were safe. I have the exact opposite view.

[@hamiltonp58]

@@chrismurphyracing94 do you mean story choices or the actual characters being safe?

[@daniaaal]

In other words, the finale is a filler episode

[@Max-zu8xj]

@@daniaaal Literally the fight for Mandalore, Din and the death of the main villain is a filler in your opinion? I understand the episode wasn't hard to write but your opinion is trash.

[@imjashingyou3461]

I feel like half of the problems with this season were because Rangers of the New Republic got shoehorned into this season. The spy is an example of this. It may be why those mando episodes got "moved" to the book of Boba fett.

[@stevebreedlove9760]

Ah yes. Makes sense

[@kungolaf4499]

Moving those Mando episodes here, would have made seeing the Mythosaurus a Mid-Season Finale. Which would make a whole lot of sense.

[@ForRealConfused]

WHOOOA that makes so much sense so its all Disney's fault hahaha

[@Pigness7]

when I got to the credits and it showed all the different concept art for space battle stuff I was like "wait did I phase out and miss all of this?"

[@jrev2284]

Same, I also wished the armor got the gun she had in the end credits. I feel it was stupid to be going mach fuck and wielding a hammer.

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

@@jrev2284 I can’t quantify the torquing force being imposed upon her shoulder every time she connected a hit, but I suspect it’d be immense.

[@klobknocker65]

Hello mister mod man

[@Servellion]

@@ZacksRockingLifestyle She's so Mandalorian, she's replaced her bones with pure beskar.

[@Jesse11788]

​@@Servellion In other words: meet Star Wars Wolverine.

[@oliversmith4805]

How is no one talking about how Gideon's clones were behind several layers of shields and armed guards but once in there, it's just two normal doors leading right to the main hanger on the other side of the room. Or how Gideon knew exactly where Jin was and said he was going to fight him just to leave and go one room across

[@katiekofemug]

Because Gideon never read that ancient email "How NOT to build an Evil Overlord Lair" tsk, tsk. If only Gideon had checked his spam folder! >g

[@andrewtheawesome]

My thoughts exactly. Horrible writing, truly

[@Philipp3022]

I mean also its kinda understandable for the shot - but these praetorian guards again camping in a dark corner till they feel its cool to join the fight was somehow funny

[@auroa9854]

because hes overconfident in his clones, not a writing error

[@oliversmith4805]

@@Philipp3022 i didn't even think about that, so true.

[@holdynvaughn85]

I was really wishing for an end-credit scene where the secret council is deliberating and generally freaking out about Gideon’s death, and then Thrawn shows up to calm things down. It would’ve made a great Segway into Ashoka IMO

[@92HazelMocha]

Was just thinking this. Post credits shadow council would've been sweet. Feels like ran out of funding on the finale.

[@dabbzgaming]

Personally that would have made the episode worth it

[@daxlucero2437]

But ahsoka is also gonna be shit and the writers aren’t smart enough to do anything clever

[@DewitNow]

Poor Paz Vizsla wasn't even acknowledged in the finale. 😭

[@daxlucero2437]

Because he was a retard. “Guys, run away, I’ll slow ‘em down!!” Proceeds to kill Literally everyone

[@storm-fotia1920]

Bro made it through his first final stand even and they say absolutely nothing

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@storm-fotia1920 On gawd, that's mad disrespectful. Member of Clan Visla and went out like a true homie... and he's gotten no recognition 😓

[@Nebotek1]

The true main character

[@ShotofDespresso]

I definitely wasn't overly impressed with the finale, but the re-lighting of Mandalore's forges has me tentatively excited for the Mandalore arc in upcoming seasons. I'm also glad that the Armorer wasn't a spy for Gideon like so many people were theorizing. Gideon's death felt a little anti-climactic, since he didn't get to be finished off by Djarin or Bo Katan, but hey, it wasn't a terrible episode overall.

[@Uzarran]

Him being indirectly killed by his own cruiser was amusing, for me at least.

[@arcturionblade1077]

@@Uzarran Palpatine: "Ironic."

[@jasonbernard4879]

Agreed about the armorer. I was hoping she'd make some announcement saying they can all unmask.

[@legionyapper]

I think that we should have seen gideon react to his dead clones. And the darksaber being brogen should have been a bigger deal. It was just kinda akward

[@legionyapper]

​@@jasonbernard4879 yea she was built up so much during all the seasons put nothing payed off.

[@hr-ct-5555]

To me personally it felt like a mid season finale more than a season finale with how little it did

[@bubsybubz]

they sorta got rid of a major character lol

[@GrahamWarzywo]

True, it didn't felt like finale, more it felt like different show

[@archermahou8910]

Honestly, I felt the opposite, this felt like a rushed series finale. For a moment I was worried they cancelled the show and had to rush to tie up all loose ends.

[@manuxx3543]

It's like a rushed end "oh, now mandalore is solved, they have it back. Gideon and all his projects from earlier seasons ? Dead. Ig 11 back, Mando retires witcher 3 style, happy ending" Now the way is cleared for the Ahsoka show and mandos are on the side

That's because half of the season was filler.

[@johnnyjoestar22]

I’m guessing reason why Gideon destroyed dark saber was because if he couldn’t have it then no one can, plus I still think dark saber is still fine as long as crystal okay

[@fern1009]

I was so happy when the Darksaber was destroyed. It was such an oxygen-drain for the plot and I never liked its inclusion into the Mandalorian mythos from its inception. Now we can see how the Mandalorians figure out how leadership should be established without, as Gideon stated, a "trinket."

[@siegeart2555]

@@fern1009 It was mostly just seen as a symbol of power sometime after Torre Vizla's death around 1000 BBY. Like how the Mask of Mandalore was a symbol of power and leadership. Breaking it just means that the current leader of Mandalore cannot rely on the a mere object. Lightsaber itself can be repaired but I doubt they know how to fix a broken lightsaber

[@hamiltonp58]

I got the sense that he broke it almost accidentally and then just rubbed it in Bo Katans face. I'll have to watch that part again though.

[@Wedge-Antilles]

The saber is gone for good. This means the death of deathwatch for good forever.

[@gamersguidezf_3236]

@@siegeart2555 imagine din goes to luke with the darksaber and luke fixes it😅 i dunno if luke would but he might?

[@ProfessorHurt]

I'm a bit surprised we didn't see a Palleon cameo this week calling the TIEs back basically leaving Gideon to fend for himself. I mean that makes the most sense to me as they vanished after they assaulted the capital ship. Would've been a nice 'in fighting" moment between the two.

[@michaelramon2411]

I think it is reasonable from the episode to assume that the TIEs thought their mission was accomplished when they brought down the cruiser, and once they realized the base was neutralized, they booked it back to their own boss. But you're right that 10 seconds could have been devoted to that. Maybe at the end of the fight, the Mandalorians see the bombers coming at them (setting up a repetition of Mandalore's fall), but the bombers veer off and fly away instead.

[@Darkpara1]

I don't think ties can get anywhere in star wars without a carrier. They don't have hyperdrive.

[@AstinCrow]

​@@Darkpara1I think the OP was referring to Palleon coming in with a carrier capable ship to take the TIEs, which would have been a real twist if the Admiral was in an Imperial class.

[@tanisparker1282]

I think the biggest sin of the show is that the episodes are just too short. If they had more time I'm sure things would have been better

[@ben501st]

The finale was shorter than all but two episodes this season. Really feels like they ran out of money making it.

[@stevenle9960]

the sin of this season is that they wasted so much of their limited time on side stories Did we really need a 50 minute episode to show that Dr. Perching got assassinated by a spy for Moff gideon?

[@Zlittlepenguin]

@@stevenle9960 honestly that was the best episode of the season lol there’s an actual character involved in that story. The rest of the season - even din, in the most bizarre way - just has a bunch of vessels that carry out the plot. Nobody goes through any change in logic or struggles or set backs. Hell there are barely even GOALS at all. Din wants to redeem himself - and that could have been a more personal journey. But nah he just goes in some water in EPISODE 2 and he reached his goal for the season. The only other goal is retaking Mandalore. That’s it.

[@AirAssault7]

@tanis parker, For real.

[@jarrodbright5231]

It felt like it was missing the exact amount of runtime a space battle would contain

[@TheWhiteDragon3]

This whole season feels like they came up with a killer outline that has some pretty solid plotlines, but the development of that outline into a fully fleshed story had enough hiccups to give us...this. Title says it all; This was fine, I guess...

[@cons9053]

Who's in charge of the production team for Mando anyway?

[@Jesse11788]

​@@cons9053 Isn't it Jon and Dave? I saw a theory going around that studio interference had something to do with the season turning out as weird as it did.

[@yga-charlie8458]

@@Jesse11788 tons of rumors that Kennedy got involved. That seems extremely likely because we know Jon and Dave have a passion for it and they don’t write shit. Which was what this whole season was

[@chaosbringer9007]

​@@yga-charlie8458 rumor was that grogu was barely supposed to be in this season and that their reunion got shoe horned into mando season 2.5 (book of boba) thats why we have eps where mando runs around without grogu since those were the salvaged episodes.

[@winespringinc.9447]

i feel like this is an issue with a lot of newer 10-8 Episode Shows

[@darthwitchakorn1027]

The most surprising thing about the finale is there is no connection to Ahsoka show at all. Dave says "you don't need to watch anything for Ahsoka show", it seem like he really means it.

[@mrgotitfordalow]

Why's that surprising? Nothing we have seen would hint at a connection besides 1 thrawn mention.

[@investoroncoke]

@@mrgotitfordalow I think people convince themselves their own theories are true. Nothing in Mando hinted at a Ahsoka connection

[@RetroX6]

@@investoroncoke other than the shadow council scene

[@mrgotitfordalow]

@Investoronspeed What makes it even funnier is filoni even said you wouldn't need to watch anything before ahsoka, and they're still "surprised." Crazy man.

[@battledroid3497]

Not everything needs to connect and be like the mcu it’s time to stop leaning heavily on cliffhangers and post credit scenes.

[@oftengruntled5432]

I agree, very underwhelmed. I was also frustrated by the almost throwaway scene with the mandalorian plant life. You'd think for something so obviously thematic and representative of the Mandalorians themselves returning to Mandalore and flourishing again after centuries would have more than one scene where someone went "oh yeah the plants are back"

[@VVMVVMVVM]

This and also the stupid 5 minutes of footage of R5 flying to access a control panel and looking at mouse droids

[@crasyrex285]

I think that the biggest problem with this season was the fact that Grogu was brought back in the book of Boba Fett. This decision, probably, derailed the whole story of Din in this season. The entire season was used to end as many lose ends as possible, just to have Din and Grogu at a time and place to start a complete new story without any major connections to the other seasons. It's just sad that Disney or whoever else made the decision to bring Grogu back just because they thought that nobody would watch mando without baby yoda.

[@-Maxi.exe03]

I don't think so. I mean would I have preferred if they had waited longer to bring him back? Yeah, sure, bu none of the issues I have with this season have anything to do with Grogu. In most scenes he just stands around anyway. If you took out the few scene where he is important nothing major would change. All the things that bothered me would still be there.

[@daxlucero2437]

Din’s story was being sidelined by the womandalorian

[@Azact]

It was Kathleen Kennedys decision to bring him back in book of boba fett

[@woozy96]

Those small imperial robots arresting R5 was my favorite part.

[@NainGeantMiniature]

I never understood the purpose of those droids as a casual fan. Them being surveillance droids makes sense to me.

[@RCorvinus]

@@NainGeantMiniature they are actually repair droids.

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

@@NainGeantMiniature as Ron said, they do maintenance work. I’d like to also add that at least some can be manually controlled, as shown by the one that can be temporarily controlled in the game Jedi Outcast.

[@Dantick09]

@@NainGeantMiniature mouse droids clean floors and other stuff like that

[@AnnatarCarvour]

Mse mouse droids

[@thomasmixon6880]

To me, the jet pack melee felt like when they tried to attack, it looked like they stood up, attacked, then went back to flying

[@powerhourcollective]

There should have been more mandos descending on the base, looking at the concept art and the size of the fleet we actually saw.

[@ben501st]

It was a cool scene but looked like special effects from a 10-15 year old Marvel movie. It could have been a bit cleaner.

[@yasuhoe7019]

The fact that they didnt actually on screen kill gideon made me walk away from the entire conflict with zero satisfaction, cant wait to see him again in season 5!

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

he make's some good chiken , be a waste to kill em

[@anthonyt1t5]

I'm very tired of him at this point. Season 2 was perfect. Bringing him back was a waste of time and that new order bullshit.

[@rullercoaster1790]

Did we watch the same scene? He literally disintegrated

[@cornpop838]

Dude literally got burned to a crisp on screen fym💀

[@rabasac37]

​@@rullercoaster1790 Maul was literally sliced in half...and he still survived.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Moff Gideon: "Kidney punch! Kidney punch, Kidney punch, Kidney punch, Kidney punch! And pause... Kidney punch!" Din Djarin: "... I'm gonna whizz red..."

[@lucapass2757]

This one felt like something was left on the cutting room floor. It was only about 45 minutes, and the concept art clearly shows more of a space battle. I wonder why it could have been cut.

[@lucapass2757]

But you know what they say about "prestge TV." The 2nd to last episode of the season has the biggest pay offs, and the finale is really just setting up what comes next.

[@jrev2284]

@@lucapass2757 I think the execs were fucking with the project and cancelations fucked up the show as well. I think with Gina Carano's firing and cancellation of Rangers of the New Republic, they had to cram some of that exposition into this. At least that's what I'm getting from some of these other commenters. This would have been so much better as a 2 part finale

[@imjashingyou3461]

Budget. It's why the episodes can be so short but the VFX are so flawless. Yet other shows that have had longer run times have had much worse effects.

[@Spendingryan]

Yeah is it just me or was there a mando flying a tie interceptor, it was an interior shot of the interceptor concept art bit at the end

[@BrayOfTheDonkey]

I wouldn't be surprised that this is KK's retribution against Jon for the secret S2 finale he pulled with Luke lol. So she meddled with S3

[@fezii9043]

When I played with my action figures as a kid, my heroes went through 10x more suffering and hardship than the Mandalorians in this ep

[@xecutioneralpha-2273]

The reason why we never got more of Dr. Purshing is because that whole sequence was something that was clearly filmed for Rangers of the New Republic. That's why it originally felt out of place and messed with the pacing of the story. The cancellation is also why we don't see more of it, because production would have been halted.

[@jrev2284]

Why not extend the season then? I hate how these big companies can't dare to put anymore effort other than minimum into their projects

[@thewatcher7940]

​@@jrev2284 What makes you think anything they've done has been "minimum effort?"

[@jrev2284]

@@thewatcher7940 After the Fangs escorted the Kom'rks they fucked off. The Ties fucked off, the gozantis fucked off. Grogu magically found Djarin. The mythosaur was brought up for no reason (as of now). Gideon clones wasted. probably more, idk

[@anthonyt1t5]

​@@jrev2284 exactly. Alot of things were set up but never paid off. That is what frustrating about this season. I expected bo kotan trying to tame the mythosaur which I was down for. Cuz I started to like her character. The dr. Pershing episode felt like a bunch of wasted screen time to setup the new order or whatever. Little to do with the retaking of mandalore. I honestly thought Gideon was trying to bring Pershing back to the imperial side but yep that never happened

[@TheWarmachine375]

Moff Gideon: *catches Darksaber* Bo-Katan: "What?!" Moff Gideon: "Nice knife!" *breaks it*

[@plbenton]

“Goodbye Mr. Burton.”

[@mace7754]

Like my pal Jack Burton says, "If it lives, we can kill it!

[@bustanut5501]

*Snap into a SlimJim*

[@gerry10leon]

now I'm just imagining mando repeatedly punching Moff Gideon in the chest while he stands there unphased

[@josephjordan9650]

MAKE MANDALORE GREAT AGAIN

[@Wackness]

Grogu saving them from the fire like Kanan did in Rebels was awesome. Next season is gonna be set 5-10 years later.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

If they wanted to end the series right here they totally could and I’d be fine with that

[@NainGeantMiniature]

Yeah, the conclusion of the episode had a weirdly "happily ever after" feel to it which I was not expecting.

[@ish8966]

Definitely, I think grogu and Mando reuniting in BOBF is part of what really killed this season. You could tell that the season was heavily going to lean on that plot thread, and it's probably why many episodes felt like they lacked any sort of "direction".

[@kervisote20]

Would be the best tbh

[@geneva214]

There are a couple of things that are left unanswered like did Bo pick up the remains of the dark saber, does ig 11 remember everything and The armorer mentions something about Dins Foundling father and how he took Din on adventurers.

[@roadhouse6999]

Semi-related to the point about armor - I was at the range yesterday and met a guy who had been in the army for 20 years. He asked me if I had a soft, kevlar backer behind my armor plates. I told him I didn't, because the plates were marketed as standalone. He told me that without a soft backer, getting shot wouldn't be a death sentence, but it would take me out of the fight. It tracks with what I heard from my instructors in the army. One of them said that getting shot in the plates hurts even more than just getting shot. Beskar obviously isn't the same as ceramic composite designed to stop bullets, but it clearly doesn't prevent the wearer from feeling the impact. Besides, I personally really like that armor matters in the Mandalorian. I've seen to many Medieval movies where someone with a sword can kill someone in plate armor.

[@Special_Agent_NSB]

cool

[@chris0000924]

Was the case with storm trooper armor a lot of times they got knocked out instead of dying

[@charliecooper6586]

@@chris0000924 very interesting and decent point actually, considering how many people roast the armour this is a good explanation.

[@joeracer302]

fuckin POG

[@roadhouse6999]

@@joeracer302 both of us were in the infantry.

[@grand_max66]

That title sums up Season 3 of The Mandalorian perfectly.

[@lgndairborne627]

It would be awesome if the destruction of the Darksaber is what causes the Armorer to bring back the tradition of the mask of the Mandalore and present it to Bo as a new symbol of leadership

[@severew9146]

interesting how the tie interceptors in the concept art have special markings on the back

[@jamesmichael9110]

I was hoping this season would explore more of Mandalorian culture and factions, like the Old Republic games and Republic Commando novels. If we got Mando’a shown prominently and possibly the old songs that would be sick, but it looks unlikely

[@lolcats987654321]

No, they don’t have the balls to adapt. Any of Karen Travis’s work in a meaningful way.

[@Servellion]

@@lolcats987654321 Too be fair...Traviss isn't that good of a writer in the first place. She picks a favorite in a franchise and the wank train bolts off at mach 10.

[@Zlittlepenguin]

Dude that was my biggest gripe with this season. It’s like every single characters motivations were overridden by “take back Mandalore” like all the mandalorians came together so dang easy, which every single other show doesn’t do. Like for what reason did they all decide to come together this time? Other than John F’s character getting mad at a chess game, the clans don’t have ANY tension with each other. Also bo herself doesn’t really go into her past at all or struggles with her confidence. I expected her in the scene where din was trying to cheer her up, to push back against the nice things he was saying a little. Cause really bo has done some pretty awful things and has caused the destruction of Mandalore several times over by now. She is NOT loyal. She is NOT of good character. But din doesn’t know that and follows her blindly. I dunno man they just REFUSED to go into any character development in this season and I can’t understand why. It all feels so fake and rushed and forced.

[@MikeKatsar]

One thing which stood out to me personally as a poor choice was Axe Woves making it out of the cruiser. They spent a good few scenes drawing parallels between Axe and Paz as being evenly matched warriors, the epitome of their respective tribe's values, both having strong, hot-headed and ultimately protective personalities. I think it would have meant more to both characters and made for a great reason for the sudden reconciliation between the tribes in spite of their differences if these two foils both sacrificed themselves for the survival of ALL the mandalorians. Both tribes could have seen their best, who bickered and fought themselves, put aside their petty differences to better their people and resolved to do better themselves. Axe clearly didn't want anyone else to risk their lives by remaining on the ship with him, and was prepared to die himself. It would have been an easy change to implement. Either cut the scene of him shooting out the window or make it so the armored window doesn't break to essentially small-arms fire and he steels himself for his end. Then have a small scene of either Bo and Din or Bo and the Armorer addressing the lost on both sides and mention them.

[@kyledunn8205]

Because it was physically possible for Axe to survive. The point of him telling everyone else to leave the ship is just that his attempt might fail (cruiser is blown up before he gets it to crash), and in that case 1 Mando lost is better than a cruisers worth. It's exactly the same type of scene as in the start of 2009 Star Trek. Only in that instance Kirks father couldn't just jump out the ship last second. The ship needs maneuvering to a point where it *will* crash in to the hangar and after that Axe can escape. Plus we don't know if they have fully reconciled *yet*, all we know is they both fully back Bo Katan, and we've seen it time and again where 2 people from separate factions sacrifice themselves for the same cause and those 2 factions don't reconcile.

[@Panzer_the_Merganser]

Definitely had a noble sacrifice feel to the scene, one Mandorlorian even stops for a second for one last glance back at Axe before leaving… But nah, they GI Joe-ed it and had him simply jump out a window (and I was laughing at that too: some little wrist rocket can blow out a battle cruiser’s windshield? TF?)

[@leonrussell9607]

Yes, but axe isn't a complete idiot like paz, paz died for no reason

[@xxoptic__nutxx6877]

I was kind of feeling like it was leading to this as well and like u said, they were drawing parallels between the two in the previous episode. I did feel like tho that since he had a jetpack it almost would have felt silly for him to not just fly out of there but i also don’t know shit about the ships and such. Him just blowing the window did feel a little easy or rather that the windows were so weak lol.

[@blindliberty4478]

The entire ending felt anti-climatic full of oh "loose end is tied now" 2 minutes scenes

[@tropicalfruit3876]

It felt satisfying? If they kept carrying it on youd complain this show is just filler and nothing progresses.

[@secs3]

@@tropicalfruit3876 braindead take

[@darkithnamgedrf9495]

@@tropicalfruit3876 no they should have just made the show make more sense, no less or more time is needed if the season were actually competent

[@mariokartpro7406]

But why did they cancel rangers of the new republic so what if they fired one person just have a new cast of crew doing different types if threats like citizens loyal to the empire, restoring peace and stability in the new republic like the droid episode in mando and fight imperial warlords like that Rae Solane.

[@generalkenobi9782]

The emotional payoff didn’t work this time for me because there’s too few episodes. Too much world building and not enough character development. I’m not saying world building is bad, just the ratio is so skewed. It felt rushed. If they had 12 episodes like Andor, or 16 episodes like bad batch, this would’ve been a pretty great and DESERVED finale. But as it is, it’s just decent/serviceable.

[@katiekofemug]

I really think you nailed it - proportionally it was so uneven with biggest character development of this season being reserved for Pershing's conflict only to be flayed away. We heard Din Djarin stating he'd seen the false stories and was ready to retake Mandalore, etc., but we didn't get a chance to see him come to grips with this; or any of the other characters either. A tense moment with the Armorer and one squabble over a game board and everything was resolved Because time was up, season over. Great Bones of a story but the flesh of awesome and invested was never filled out. Season 1&2 showed us they know how to do that and do it well.

[@eds1942]

I really thought that they would’ve used that brainwasher/fryer scene from the Dr Prushing episode to setup a situation for the finale where Gideon would have been using it to convert Mandalorians to his cause. Like maybe even hooked up Din.

[@jerectuderun1391]

I'm actually very happy that Din didn't take off his helmet, feels better and not forced, showing that it's not necessary for him to show his face in every season.

[@thisistheway3812]

Facts

[@edwardcalvo4047]

They really showed that the Children of the Watch aren't really a cult, they have a strict culture but there is nothing inherently wrong with it. Also keep your helmet on is a good way to protect against sniper fire.

[@Spooglecraft]

@@edwardcalvo4047 yeah, i feel like the moment in the gideon fight, where he takes of bo's helmet kinda underlines that, it made her seem vulnerable, with her head being completely unprotected

[@StrifeA217]

2 big issues I had was the exit of the atmosphere on a jetpack, they have already established that the jetpacks are limited in range in a previous episode. 2. Was the crashing of the ship. It came on fire though the atmosphere but it wasnt burning though the atmosphere like it should have been, then the impact was pathetic, something that big would have also had a masive impact, the fireball was pathetic the physical impact at the crash sight was all but nonexistent.

[@Grabber_73]

Here’s how I’m able to enjoy a solid 90% of Star Wars content that’s put out. I set no expectations. I saw Mythosaur, never expected it to come back this season. I don’t deal in speculation stuff tbh. I just watch the show/movie for what it is and enjoy. Cause I’ve been a huge fan of Mandalorian Lore for years. So I was hype to see all the cool mando stuff this season. But that’s never been canon before now. Now that’s not to say I don’t have gripes with the stuff they put out. But I choose to go into everything Star Wars with zero expectations because of the track record it has. Just my take on Star Wars. And you’re the channel I was watching when I had that thought so I present you with this nugget of my brain.

[@paulmatts2015]

10/10 -1 for jetpack fuel -1 for R5 appearing out of nowhere -1 for no sheilds on a freighter -1 disappearing Tie fighters -1 for hidden eden on mandalor (weren't those dudes asking for food?) -1 for praetorian guards giving up on killing Din -1 for flushing clones down the shitter -1 for bringing back ig-11-12-88 back again! - 1 for Din finally relaxing and keeping his helmet on. + 1 for some dope ass special effects Verdict: 1/10 Play it again D'an!

[@SuperiorOverlanding]

Two issues with the destruction of the Darksaber- 1. How was Gideon able to destroy the Darksaber if "the hilt is of a quality of beskar (I have) never seen before"? Season 2 Darktroopers couldn't even dent Din's armor with their strength. 2. Shouldn't Bo's hand/fingers been absolutely pulverized between the grip of the Moff and the Beskar hilt before the hilt itsself been crushed? It'd be one thing if the Moff was holding the hilt on its own, but he clearly gripped around Bo's fingers...so....

[@HOLDENPOPE]

Yeah, if Gideon can do that, then he could probably cave in Mando's armor with a single punch. At least it gets rid of the 'Beskar makes Mando invincible' problem, but if that was what they were going for, it wasn't communicated well.

[@seanoleary3662]

Regardless of overall story and everything, I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. The action was overall great (just a bit clunky with powersuit Gideon), and I loved the ending circle transition because it’s a great callback to some of Star Wars’ more goofy roots. I was just smiling while watching and for me that’s good enough :)

[@CaptainSully101]

3:28 I completely agree with this, there's a scene in Season 2 of the Mandalorian where Din charges (I think) a E Web Cannon (big mounted machine gun) tanks a ton of blaster hits and comes out unscathed. After that, I've felt like there's 0 stakes when Din is fighting stormtroopers or other blaster wielding foes. We know he'll be fine since if he can tank a heavy machine gun what's a blaster going to do to him? Not a massive complaint and still like the show, just 90% of the time the stakes feel non existent when Din is fighting since we know his armour is more than able to stop blaster fire.

[@samuelamsih2980]

My theory is that Grogu will use the dark saber crystal to build his lightsaber, tame the mythosaur, become the next mandalore and go on ruling for generations. I have spoken.

[@evand8863]

I really liked it felt very real yet fun for everyone watching. the grogu part was kinda dumb but nothing else could have really been done there. As for the space battle I think the idea was that once the cruiser went down most of the tie fighter were then stuck in space fighting the smaller craft which would prove to much for them.I really liked the video game aspect of it as a fun action scene. And the Gideon clones were just perfect because it represents him perfectly.

[@alexanderboulton2123]

This season was incredibly rushed. This is a consistent problem with Star Wars shows, which for whatever reason, have had these grand visions and like no time to set then up or explore them. Like MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THIS IS YOUR TV SHOW MAKE IT LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE IT GOOD

[@sportsomania]

I don't understand most of the complaints from some fans. I think the speculation on who might be the spy and who might come to save the day made people get their hopes up. I think this was an excellent way to end this chapter of the book and be ready for the next one in season 4. I might be in the minority, but I like how they didn't choose to end on a cliff hangar and instead wrapped up this story before the next one with Thrawn begins.

[@IceDunker-2000]

W positivity

[@shogunpug4071]

​@@IceDunker-2000 L Copium

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

There won't be a season 4, it will be ended in a movie, and given how Disney handled the other promised movies (aka cancelled) i wouldn't get my hopes high

[@AnnatarCarvour]

Indeed

[@emperormouse5487]

There was no mythosaur, no reveal of the Mandalorian spy, nothing new with the New Rebulic spy or the Shadow Council- literally nothing they set up this season. The previous episode was so epic because it really made you think the Mandalorians were completely screwed. They were trapped in a room, Din was caught, and Gideon orders their entire fleet to be bombed. If you set something like that up, there better be something substantial to actually help the Mandalorians escape or you let a lot of them die. Instead Din is saved by Grogu of all people in the first 20 seconds of this episode and he immediately destroys Gideon's clones that they've been building up since Season 1. He doesn't even have a reaction to them. He literally says to Grogu "Oh...those are Gideons clones" in the most deadpan way and then just yeets them out of existence. That was the whole reason Grogu was wanted by the empire in the beginning of Season 1, why he was continually experimented on, why he kept being kidnapped by Gideon...and that was the conclusion. You're ok with that? I was having this conversation with my friend the other day about how Star Wars in general is just kind of lower quality than shows from other networks. So we were looking up IMBD scores and noticed that some Mandalorian episodes like The Rescue, The Jedi, Redemption, were getting scores over 9/10 on IMBD, but in reality don't even come close when compared to the best of Game of Thrones, Westworld, Breaking Bad, The Wire, ect. Even a show like the Boys, is better on average than the best of the Mandalorian episodes. The Rescue got a 9.8/10 because it was the first sighting of immediate post-Return of the Jedi Luke- a character fans have been dying to see for over 35 years. Not because it was actually a 9.8. That entire episode was one lackluster fight after another until Luke saves the day. This acceptance of mediocrity has made us complacent. This show is enjoyable at times because I'm a Star Wars fan and that's it- it can't compare to anything outside of Star Wars. That is unacceptable to me because I, like so many fans, know that giving Star Wars that treatment is to key to creating something truly special. Imagine Star Wars produced with the same level of quality as Game of Thrones. And there is no reason they can't. It's made by Disney- the richest media entertainment company in the world. I don't get it.

[@nicholasramirez930]

This episode was a last Jedi clone. Duo red praetorian guard fight? Check Suicide crashing a cruiser into the enemy HQ? Check Destroying the weapon that holds major significance to the series? Check Extremely frustrating. Plot felt empty and cheap, with little to no growth from many character plot lines.

[@TheBorgey]

My biggest gripe was how the fk did Grogu get to Din after he was captured to save him?

[@jobt1999]

Dont think about it ~ dave and jon

[@BrayOfTheDonkey]

yep many inconsistencies...

[@RageUnchained]

Space wizard magic. Don’t question it

[@BrayOfTheDonkey]

@@RageUnchained aye don't be logical with us, just enjoy!

[@mobgabriel1767]

grogu ex machina

[@abneraranivar346]

Its beyond apparent that this plot needed a 13 episode season with at least 45 min episodes. Constantly i kept saying damn the episode is over. Alot of things were abruptly wrapped up. Im sad we’re regressing a bit to get back to the sweet spot of what made the show intriguing at first. I think they got overzealous using it as a ferry to transition legends & animated lore into the grander live action side of the universe. Bummer. 50% viewership drop will hopefully give Jon & Filoni the kick in the ass they need.

[@macwelch8599]

The best part of this episode was Moff Gideon’s duels against Bo-Katan and Din Djarin

[@macwelch8599]

@@hellfish2309 yeah, the Armorer doesn’t have any plot armor (lol puns) as far as I know

[@macwelch8599]

@@hellfish2309 that’s true

[@Nate-mq4rh]

not for me, the whole time I was thinking of how Gideon could even remotely be a formidable opponent for them both, let alone of them. He got bodied by Mando last season, when in the hell did he get so strong and capable?

[@JJJBunney001]

​@hellfish2309 the armourer isn't special to most manadalorians, just to her cult. So with the seasons of vuild up, the clone wars and rebels it makes total sense that Bo Katan fought him

[@QuintusAntonious]

@@Nate-mq4rh He was wearing a suit of power armor made of beskar. If you watch the fight, he was totally outclassed by Din and Bo. It was completely his armor allowing him to give any kind of fight. They put kill shot after kill shot on him had his armor not been there.

[@BeauHenri]

Gideon crushes the Darksaber. Bo’s right hand “I can take it!”

[@sebastianxftw]

It was definitely an episode

[@joshuafleming5380]

Yea imo as a finale it was pretty meh, in fact id say the entire season as a whole was pretty meh, it annoys me so much when people tey to defend this by saying out expectations were too high but that is just making excuses for lazy writing, this show SHOULD have met our expectations and more, i expected an amazing finale but that js not what we got.........I will say that the best part of the whole season is the whole Coruscant sequence with the doctor, that was way better than everything else we got imo

[@RetroX6]

To answer the question of the imperial forces, they are specifically other warlord's loans to Gideon, not Gideon's own forces. After the explosion, they probably figured Gideon was dead and probably just returned to the specific warlord factions they were apart of. The only actual forces Gideon owns are his clones, and the mandalorian super commando troopers. As well as the base, nothing more. Overall, season 3 is a incoherent mess, with some "decent" episodes. The entire season was "decent", I agree with you on this. Nothing actually tied in with ahsoka, which is what i thought would happen - but we are just returning to the same plot points but rebranded. Gideon's death also was goofy as heck, like bro just stood there and didnt even move, it seems like he fell into the fire on purpose, shows the lack of concern and budgeting/time constraints.

[@sleeplessknight99]

TIEs don't have hyperdrives. They need a base or a (hyperspace capable) mothership to take off and land from. The Imperial ships got destroyed by running out of budget.

[@ethanalbertson854]

​@@sleeplessknight99 They were remnant TIE's and Remenant stuff has been modified before (Look at Gideons own Cruiser as well as multiple times in sequel tech)

[@sleeplessknight99]

@@ethanalbertson854 * waves hand * There are no sequels.

[@RetroX6]

@@sleeplessknight99 that's obvious lol, it's likely they had a carrier somewhere

[@RetroX6]

@@ethanalbertson854 gideons cruiser wasn't modified but his ties were

[@JMJfat]

There was a cameo: Dave Filoni in the Cantina =P

[@JJJBunney001]

It really felt like this season needed 2 more episodes. There needed to be more to mandalore and another episode after the siege. But at the same time, I'm okay with what we did get

[@vickygayming]

I worry star wars is taking an MCU approach where the only point of a show is to set up other shows; it's really frustrating when they set up really cool concepts that are bait for other projects

[@QuestionMan]

I was the opposite: fearing we'd get way, way worse. So pairing that with the low bar set by the entire unevenness of the season, I was actually very happy with the episode. They deescalated all the tension, cut off or tied up the loose threads, and was entertaining on the whole. I call not falling flat on its face a win. Like you said, "soft reboot."

[@michaelramon2411]

Regarding the space battle, I would assume that the "use the cruiser as bait" plan meant that all of the Gozantis and Fang fighters scattered and retreated, and the TIEs presumably declared Mission Accomplished after they brought the cruiser down. Once they realized Gideon had lost, they flew off to summon their carrier and return to their actual faction. It would have been nice to have lines/shot confirming that in the episodes, but I don't think that's the most problematic missing scenes (acknowledgement of the Darksaber's destruction, for example).

[@joeljohnston3390]

I think what's important to remember is that this episode was meant to help wrap up the mando story line. I think the important thing to remember is they need the open story lines for the other mandoverse shows, Ahsoka is meant to handle the imperial remnants.

[@chucksire7116]

My biggest gripe was in earlier episodes they made a point to show how limited the range of the Mando jetpacks were. I this episode it seemed like they had unlimited range. Home boy flew out of the atmosphere into orbit lol

[@andyknb]

I'm glad someone else pointed that out, it really left me scratching my head when I saw that but this is the first time I see someone else who noticed that too.

[@chucksire7116]

@AndyKnb like why show them run out of "gas" earlier then unlimited later? I know it's fantasy but they set their own rules

[@andyknb]

@@chucksire7116 of course, fantasy worlds have different rules but they have to be consistent across their own universe in order to be believable

[@Gojarino]

Isn’t the reason why Din Djarin is able to survive blows which would normally be fatal be because his armor is pure Beskar? I thought that’s why it’s pure silver in color too. All the other Mandalorians and Dark Troopers for whatever reason use a Beskar alloy which I assume is cheaper to produce but not as sturdy as pure Beskar.

[@Skiritai]

This is correct.

[@richardched6085]

It's all to build up a movie that we won't get for 3 to 4 years.

[@ADogWithGlasses00]

It was entertaining to watch. The ending left things back where we can start as an episodic adventure show. After all of the big story narratives, it ended well and we can start with the Ahsoka storyline 🤷‍♂️

[@NotDustyDrB]

I'd be fine with that, honestly. Tell small stories that expand on the universe. I liked that about season 1.

[@violator7964]

Watched it yesterday. Haven’t thought about it until now - almost forgot. I mean, that’s not really what I was expecting to feel like after watching the finale. There won’t be a ton of online theories and speculations following season 3 because it doesn’t really leave you with anything.

[@ffabiang]

It doesn't make sense that Mando takes the helmet off! He spent the first part of the season fixing that mistake. I think it was nice that they didn't rely on cameos or shock twists. However, it definitely feels rush after Gideon's defeat, scenes were going by so quick.

[@Mr.JoScope]

But this season Mando never took his helmet off…

[@ffabiang]

@@Mr.JoScope I mentioned it cause in the video he said he hoped Mando takes it off

[@battmyne]

The lack of development around the bringing together of Mandolorians was exactly why side quests and filler were such a waste. It didnt create any enotional weight to anything by skipping through it with poor pacing and unlinked events.

[@sageg58]

the midalorian

[@brandenp1187]

Yup

[@a.bettik8698]

Lol, all the people who where believing the traitor armorer theory... Y'all want to read to much in the Mandalorian, waiting for complexity and narrative tricks.. TheMando is a straightforward show that is initialy designed for teenagers and older fans, while Kenobi and the Bad Batch for instance was more trying to appeal to children, and of course Andor being the adult-oriented show in the bunch. It's true though that it was better when it played with gray zones, and then again, I agree with you that this episode was totally rushed (Grogu appearing from nowhere, no space battle...)

[@persephone9084]

Honestly I loved the finale I don't need to be surprised every time to like a show

[@NotDustyDrB]

Me: "You gonna unleash those force-wielding Dark Trooper clones?" The Mandalorian: "Nahhh" Me: "Be a lot cooler if you did"

[@Skiritai]

It also wouldn't make sense. Its stated that cloning force sensitives is near impossible.

[@gonk1012]

I very much enjoyed the finale, and thought the action was fantastic. I was kinda expecting thrawns fleet to jump in and kill Gideon for basically going rouge and trying to become the new leader of the empire, but now watching It I like that mandalore and din and gorge can get a clean fresh start

[@d3ltaohniner261]

*rogue

[@MarkW1210]

*George

[@d3ltaohniner261]

@@MarkW1210 "Grogu

[@ashleyroberts2294]

I feel like the whole thing about him not having his stache and shorter hair was just him cleaning himself up and the shorter hair could be the new republic cutting it like most prisons do in real life

[@DonaldHeim]

The part that is missed by everyone... this reset to a supposed season 1 vibe gives them a chance to time jump to an older Grogu... First Order, other groups, and more... lots of possibilities

[@lumithelapphund6990]

The film Quality was good, and it had very Nice action sceenes. But it felt rushed and very expected

[@nalu_vhs]

This season finale really felt like a bcs mid season finale

[@xwhitewolfx2928]

I also do hope that the way the finale handled the story of the Din family means a return to a more personal story of a bounty hunting space western like season 1 was, though I suspect it'll still tie somehow into the Ahsoka series.

[@nikidelvalle]

Honestly things like this hurt way worse than something being bad. This season and even this episode had all the potential in the world to be amazing, and all of it was rushed and squandered. It was crushingly disappointing as what was supposed to be a climax to a storyline that's been running since the introduction of Mandalore in The Clone Wars more than a decade ago. This episode should've been an event.

[@jamesgwoodwork]

The mandalorians, together, didn't need Luke or Ashoka to save them.

[@Druffis]

This was a whole episode of expectations subverted. No payoff with the mythasaur, how was the dark saber destroyed when its made of baskar, how did Grogu get to Din that fast, why did Gideon not confront Din before he killed his clones. So stupid.

[@BossBast1]

Yes. Extremely illogical. Weird cuts and short or removed scenes. Not Starfighter dogfight sucks. All Ties and gazantis just dissappear. Moff has laser doors, yet from the other side is fully opened for anyone with a jetpack. He knew whole time when Din was on his map, yet he did not send pretorians or jettroo0ers after him. He let his clones die so stupidly. He let the Pretorian guards die like idiots poking sticks into lamps. And he tactically stands in open space instead of running or taking shelter. Also from where he still gets so many troops. Basically Paz killed all of them, yet there is like 1000 more.

[@jrev2284]

If I'd summarize this episode into one word, undeserved. I feel like none of it was earned. They didn't even defeat Gideon and they are now just unified because they fought together, I understand the bonds in combat are greater than any other, but to just forget your differences entirely, damn.

[@TheWingland]

Fleet battle between Grand admiral Thrawn vs. Ender Wiggin Each one has an equal sized fleet with equally capable subordinates, and since Ender is from a different universe each has equal understanding of the technology they’re using. They are in command of Star Wars vessels. Pick a famous fleet of your choosing I’d suggest death squadron

[@chasevancleave]

I feel like most of these complaints are Justin wishing for all the side plots to be tied up, but they never were meant to be, those give the story room to grow in the future

[@southernlegends8594]

No it’s random ass plot points that go no where.

[@chasevancleave]

@@southernlegends8594 that go nowhere “yet”. Yet is the key, be a tad more patient and optimistic. Jon and Dave have earned the benefit of the doubt

[@mrpancake8889]

Man. The most “ok” episode in the series.

[@BLAZE084]

So I’m confused here: is Din the last name? Also who were the spies from the previous episode? We got no resolution for that. If Djarin is going back to bounty hunting he’s going to need a bigger ship cause that N1 isn’t going to be enough.

[@jrev2284]

All good questions, Disney could give a fuck about answering

[@Skiritai]

A. The spies were Kane and the Astromech on Coruscant. Possibly Hux and Palleon on the Shadow Council. B. Many cultures have the surname be first. C. He never said he was bounty hunting, just taking jobs for the New Republic to hunt down Imperials.

[@BLAZE084]

@@Skiritai All good points you’ve made there. Still my reasoning for the larger ship is that if he gets an assignment that requires him to bring in the target alive for whatever reason that astromech port isn’t going to hold any humanoid types. And speaking of astromech port: I call bs on that because there’s no way for a droid to squeeze between that third engine and the access hatch and I’m surprised no one found it strange and unfeasible. Sorry for the rant here. I’ve been holding this in for a while

[@BLAZE084]

@@Skiritai B. Agreed. It’s just that Bo-Katan always referred to him as Din in later episodes of this season which caused most of my confusion. To me Din always sounded like his first name.

[@Billy_The_Kid-]

It definitely had its "why" moments. But I loved it honestly

[@CrimsonCateye]

I feel this was less of season finale and more of a stepping off point for other series. I wish they had taken more risk, but I hope it looks better in retrospect similar to how we view the prequel trilogy now

[@happymike420]

The scene where he takes on waves of guards also in beskar, just proves his combat superiority and accuracy of those imps

[@MWBalls]

The jet pack into orbit scene fills me with indescribable rage. You can't chase a dragon for 5 minutes but you can reach escape velocity??!!!?

[@jrev2284]

I thought the same exact thing. I also don't like how they can just seal their helmets without any type of seal. It makes absolutely no sense. For stormtroopers, clones, and closed suits it does, but not for the Mandos they have an open chin and neck and they can miraculously make a suction noise and the suit is sealed with infinite oxygen. I miss when Star Wars was slightly more grounded

[@Skiritai]

​@@jrev2284 ah yes, space samurai wizards is so grounded

[@imjashingyou3461]

You don't need to get anywhere close to escape velocity to ballistically get into space not even 10%. You just won't Orbit or in your case even need more energy to escape Orbit. (Escape velocity is to leave Orbit not get into it.)

[@mastercheif1225]

I believe those were either vibro or electro staffs. Although not capable of piercing beskar it's sort of the same like being shot with a bullet proof vest you'll still feel the kinetic energy of the hit or the electro staffs shock which is why the praetorian guards weapons carried so much heft despite the beskar. The used exclusively electro/vibro based weaponry

[@lucapicchio3994]

Andor was better

[@brandenp1187]

Oh 100%. And it pisses me of when someone says this season or Kenobi was better, but I guess we are all entitled to our own opinion

[@thecopperiris]

I'm going to go with at 3:36 and also with Paz fighting the 3 guards, that with those staff weapons that it takes a bit of time to actually pierce through the beskar, yes it looks like it's stabbed him, but it's probably like when Jedi stick their light sabers into a blast door. It doesn't just instantly melt through. That would kind of explain Paz not dieing instantly after he looked like he got stabbed 50 times

[@chief679]

What happened to the sick and injured people the armorer dropped off on the ship? 😳

[@Dantick09]

They healed in like 5 minutes and went back down to fight presumably

[@dragondrew2000]

Season 3 felt like a big setup story to future seasons and other projects. Definitely my least favorite out of the seasons. Hopefully season 4 comes a lot faster.

[@Manunido]

My theory for the dark saber is the crystal is fine and eventually it will be given to grogu for when he makes his first lightsaber

[@geneva214]

That would be cool but I doubt bo picked up the remains and it burned to a crisp

[@Dantick09]

Dark saber is a gimmick for a recurrent narrative tool. It will be back or they will have to fetch a thing to fix it etc…

[@Dantick09]

@@geneva214 Bo Katan got her helmet back somehow

[@joshuacastro3602]

I'm still salty about my space battle!

[@dingamuss1993]

So long as it’s not the Velma show, it’s good in my book.

[@jedicapybara]

One of my big things though is where tf did R5 come from? It played in part with Grogu just appearing to save Din. R5 was just there. This episode was safe but it felt like the time jump in the DC Comics event “Dark Knights Metal” where everyone is captured then it flips way hella forward where heroes are assembled going into the dark multiverse and it just felt like something was missing. Like content was missing and that’s how these last two episodes felt. They pushed it really, *really* fast because they knew they spent too much time on plot points that went no where. It was a safe episode but too rushed.

[@jonathonspears7736]

I honestly think 'safe' was the right choice here. The episode played exactly how i think it should. That is a good thing, not a bad thing. Subverting expectations has a bad track record. The ending was happy and was a good closing the door episode.

[@Special_Agent_NSB]

Yes, we should all just content ourselves with mediocrity and never have expectations for anything. My god, what a stupid take.

[@jrev2284]

The problem is there is still another season and a movie. Eck was right when he said this finale was an insurance policy for if the series didn't get green lit for another season. I don't ask much of the show, but I would like something important to happen. They could have skipped all of this and just rammed the light cruiser into the base. They didn't even defeat Gideon, he just got vaporized, which is the worst way possible.

[@jonathonspears7736]

@@Special_Agent_NSB I will always take a happy mediocre ending that meets expectations. The ending was good, not great. A win is a win.

[@jonathonspears7736]

@@jrev2284 With the ending they gave, they could easily set up anything for the next season and the movie. They aren't locked into a cliffhanger plot thread.

[@jrev2284]

@@jonathonspears7736 I'm not asking for a cliff hanger, I'd have liked Axe to be a traitor. I don't expect TBB S2 to happen, just not for a bare bones plot. Some twist that could get resolved. I was happy with the ending, but I wish there was something more in between like an epic space battle. Bo already had a great one over her castle in the second or third episode, another like that would have been insane.

[@Charlie-qw9ky]

WHY DIDNT BO CUT THROUGH THE DOOR INSTEAD OF LETTING GIDEON MONOLOGUE