Converting a Motocross Bike to an Enduro Bike? |GNCC|WOODS|ENDURO

These additions and changes to motocross bike are a good start to turning your motocross into a unique woods weapon.
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[@PlushEnduro]

What motocross bike makes the best woods bike? Let me know your thoughts...

[@nvmcrider8475]

I have a 2002 YZ250 2 stroke that I used for riding desert. Bottom line is it really is just better at mx, rather than spending a bunch of money on it, just get the WR250F. I have the 15 WR the 250f and it is better at everything off road except for the extra weight. Here's what I did to the 2 stroke... Bought used WR front forks and rear shock. 13 ounce Fly Wheel Weight...Get the 11 ounce the 13 interferes with the clutch actuator and wears the cable too fast. Acerbis 3 gallon tank. Pro Moto billet kickstand, this thing is a work of art. Hand guards. Skid plate. KTM thermostat. Homemade coolant catch tank. Problems you can't fix.. The transmission is a weak link, 1st too tall 5th too short. Power hits too abrupt. Weak low rpm torque. Engine vibration. Strong points.... Light weight. Easy kick starting. Fun to ride.

[@PlushEnduro]

Thanks NVMCRIDER. For my YZ, I’m looking to address the the problem areas with gears out of the WR, flex bars to help with the vibrations and engine work to shift the power band down to the low mid. Some tweaking of the timing might help with the hit I hope. BUT! You’re right that it’s generally best to just buy a bike made to do what you’re trying to do with it. Thanks for the feedback; I’ll look at an 11oz instead of the 13oz. Thanks a bunch for that advice. The pros of this bike, the number one being “fun” may outweigh some of the cons I hope! Also agree completely on the PMB kickstand. I’ve used “work of art” describing it as well.

[@mitchellknight739]

Rmz 250 slow reving lugging

[@PlushEnduro]

Yabba Dabba solid choice. We met a guy out on the trail once who do some trials stuff of his RM. It was nuts what he could do with that thing.

[@patrickmurphy5409]

I'm running an 02cr250r loving life!

[@melchiorrebaldassarre1782]

I get what you're saying but I started with a motocross in the woods and i find it very satisfying because you start in the hard way but when you get an enduro bike you feel more confident and literally in another world

[@PlushEnduro]

+Melchiorre Baldassarre I suppose starting with a motocross bike, does make you really appreciate the enduro bike even more.

[@johnnyrides9261]

One thing I would add from my experience installing a flywheel weight on my cr250. Is to get the biggest weight available for your bike. I went with a 10oz instead of the heaviest option and it made a big difference but the heavier weight would have been better to keep it from stalling out on slow hill climbs. So just get the heaviest weight available. Secondly, some advice on an 18" rear wheel on a budget, Tusk sells the 18" rim for just $90 and the rim with spokes for $130. The cheapest one around besides finding a used one.

[@PlushEnduro]

Probably good advice on the FWW. I was thinking I'd go with the 13oz (I think that's the biggest one for the YZ). I haven't heard anyone say that they wished they got a slightly smaller one, so maybe bigger is better. The tusk option for wheels is a good one. If you can lace your own hubs and true a wheel (without punching a hole through the wall out of frustration) I'd say that's great route. They have a fully built with bearings and all for a reasonable amount of money as well- granted it's over double the $130... I may actually go the fully built route, because after powder coating the hubs (I know that isn't necessary in real life) it might break closer to even. Still on the fence, because I kinda want the experience of lacing up a new rear as I've never done it.

[@felixpremont6373]

Amazing video! Been looking for this information everywhere and here it is!

[@PlushEnduro]

Thanks! Good luck

[@trashbarn]

Dude i just started back to dirtbikes... and i found you. You're really enjoyable to lesson to. Thanks for the great information

[@ryancollard77]

I have a 2002 yz250 2t. I did these mods for a easier clutch and highly recommend what he did. The yzx clutch spring go in easy, the proline clutch lever and the springs made a giant difference. Put a new cable on it too and lube it up! I highly recommend the throttle tamer throttle tube as well. I put a 13oz flywheel weight on too. I love all these mods. With those 4 mods the bike is so much better. Night and day!! This Mountain Life is great BTW!!!

[@mike619madman]

Liked just for the first 20 seconds 😂😂🥺 well done

[@stefannanomtb2879]

best video ever, thanks for explaining

[@rubenjimenez5213]

Apart from the suspension for me the transmission does a big difference, there are kits, or if you got very good mechanical skills you can do a WR transmission thats what i got on mine, but another thing is there is a big support of aftermarket parts to help with the conversion to a woods bike and that is a good thing

[@jcasey2309]

Great tips but one thing I’ll add which made probably the biggest improvement for any of my 2 strokes was to jet the carb a little lean especially the pilot. 2 strokes are notoriously jetted super rich from the factory and for MX that’s ok, but going leaner (especially the pilot jet) allows you to lug and have a crispy bottom end power.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

They are jetted rich so they don't go lean for any air quality around the world. MX or not, if you don't jet a 250, you are probably losing power in the entire curve and 2-3 HP at peak.

[@argunzed]

Thks broo, am use riding yz250x to

[@EarthSurferUSA]

A heavier flywheel does absorb power. MXA wrote an article on them recently, and they are wrong, flat wrong. Paraphrasing: "The added flywheel weight does not decrease HP, and can even add HP." Reality is: 1) When you are accelerating, the extra weight takes more energy to accelerate, which is why the RPM's rev slower for more slippery traction. (HP is work done over time) 2) At a steady throttle opening the HP to the wheel is the same. 3) When you let off the gas, the stored energy in the flywheel does go back into the crank, like for braking, where it is not used. 4) MXA is a little "slow" today. No where near the technical mag it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's.

[@datsdylan007]

Bars!!! Number one bars

[@jesserichter7560]

Thanks buddy I went down a tooth in rear I think I need to go up instead the bikes better up hill in second with Lil clutch tapping it's wearing me out on engine drag

[@rugelcamacho8751]

Hi I really appreciate your informative video presentation actual I’m building 1994 yz 250 for trails, any suggestions where to buy bottom end kit for this year model. Thank you

[@PlushEnduro]

I ordered the crank/bearings/seals through Ken oconner racing. Hit him up and he’ll know exactly what you need.

[@jjpeters5]

Love the build....since you want some porting done, i would love to see you send the cylinder off to eric gorr for his low to mid porting and have him do the 295cc big bore....I think that would be great....icing on the cake would be a heavy flywheel weight and a lectron carb....I'm gonna follow this build close...lol

[@PlushEnduro]

🤜 thanks man! So... I am currently having porting done and honestly I WAS going to go with Eric at first. That was until I talked to him on the phone... or at least tried to. He seemed so disinterested in speaking to me that I had to pass on him. I did some more research and ended up sending the jug and head off to Ken O’Connor, up in Connecticut, who is a joy to work with. I considered a big bore, but to be honest I really wanted a squirrelly 250 as opposed to another 300. Thanks for the feedback and ideas though Josh! Keepem coming. Haha.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

@@PlushEnduro "I am currently having porting done and honestly I WAS going to go with Eric at first. That was until I talked to him on the phone... or at least tried to." I tried once also talking with Eric Gorr on the phone. I was a bit nervous, and he hung up on me.

[@PlushEnduro]

@@EarthSurferUSA lot of personalities. Engine people are worse than suspension people.

[@willmcgregor7184]

Fly wheel Mucho easier to ride in slow stuff & doesn’t stall. 👍

[@thepatternforms859]

on the stock YZ KYB suspension couldnt you just soften it with the clickers?

[@PlushEnduro]

I think so. A lot of people do. Probably a bit more deflection with stock valving with just clicker adjustment?

[@aswoo6960]

I have an 02 yz250 as well. Cylinder was sent to millennium for 265cc, bottom end porting, and head cut for pump gas. Has 66hrs on it now. 15oz FWW( found used on ebay). Gnarly pipe. Boyseen dual stage reeds. NJEC needle. Absolute tractor. 18"tusk rear. I am about to revalve the suspension. I have been doing a lot of research to learn how altering the shims affects damping. I am curious if you would share what shim stack you end up with when you get your forks and shock back. It would give the DIYers like me a good baseline to start from. I am basicly same size and skill level as you. Thanks in advance. Keep up the awesome vids.

[@PlushEnduro]

Hey Adam, thanks for watching man, I appreciate it. Millennium ehh? What was the turn around time on that? As far as the shim stack, I WILL ask the guy if he minds me sharing the shim info- He's a local and I'd hate to burn a bridge if you know what I'm saying.

[@aswoo6960]

@@PlushEnduro im not sure on the turn around time. The top end had 10hrs on it when i got it.

[@PlushEnduro]

​@@aswoo6960Sorry, I meant, how long Millennium had your stuff before you got it back? I was looking at porting and getting the head cut down a bit for this build, but I wasn't sure how long it took to get it back once I sent it in. I mean I have an entire winter so I for sure have time... but I am trying to stick to kind of a schedule.

[@aswoo6960]

@@PlushEnduro sorry I wasn't clear. When I bought the bike the the boring and porting had already been done

[@PlushEnduro]

Adam Wooton ahhhhh I see! Sorry man. I was actually looking at sending this one out to Eric Gorr. Your comment inspired me to finally pull the trigger. Not doing a big bore, just porting and squish mod.

[@gareth5494]

Hiya budd ive got a yz450f 16 thinking ov putting a glued 9n steahly flyweight wots your thoughts on this your input would be much appreciated 👍

[@PlushEnduro]

It would likely help with the flaming out at low speeds.

[@alexlyons2201]

1999 Yz 250 1999 Ttr 250 Which should I use for eduro? The Yz is plenty powerful but the suspension sucks. The Ttr is pretty gutless but the suspension is already set up.

[@PlushEnduro]

Huge weight difference too... if it were me? I'd go yz all day... Just find a local person to re-valve the forks and go get busy. TTR would be a good machine too and arguably easier at first... uhhggggg. These are tough choices. If it were me... yeah, YZ, they're just too much fun.

[@alexlyons2201]

@@PlushEnduro Sweet, I used to race MX on the YZ a few years ago and once I'm back from BCT and AIT this year I want to get back into racing hare scrambles and enduro, thanks for the advice! I will definitely be watching through the entire series of this bike build. Any tips to lighten the clutch pull on the Yz besides a hydro clutch?

[@PlushEnduro]

@@alexlyons2201 I have a video on just that!

[@No_Budget_No_Problem]

@@PlushEnduro Sweet

[@Okiyota]

Where do I get one of them fancy hoodies?? XL-Tall please...

[@PlushEnduro]

Christmas is coming, maybe Santa will hook you up... One size fits most, so if you can squeeze into a Shmedium?

[@CoolEyeColorado]

@@PlushEnduro Words that describe Tommy perfectly....Short medium :)

[@Okiyota]

CoolEye Colorado I’ve been called many things in my life, might be a first for short and medium lol

[@PlushEnduro]

+Tommy Lovejoy husky/long

[@EarthSurferUSA]

A KTM 300 would have been a terrible bike for me as a beginner. I was 10 years old. :)

[@stillcantride7159]

You should get a yz250fx

[@PlushEnduro]

That’s a fantastic idea. Where were you 4 years ago chuckles? 😂

[@user-xc1ib4dw7g]

Подскажите,какой вес утяжелителя маховика лучше использовать?

[@PlushEnduro]

11 унций

[@user-xc1ib4dw7g]

@@PlushEnduro Thank you

[@RWWRENTAL]

I almost bought a mx bike when I first started lol happy I didn't

[@PlushEnduro]

It's a mistake I made. Made me quit riding for awhile. I didn't even realize it was the bike that made me hate riding.

[@331moto]

A CR250R is the best woods bike. I absolutely love mine

[@rugelcamacho8751]

Hi can I still convert 1994 yz250 to a wide ratio gears? Thnks have a great day

[@PlushEnduro]

Oh I’m not sure. I think 99 and up will except those gears from the X

[@jarredschatz7544]

You do realize you can calm down any motocross bike in about five minutes with the proper throttle that is not a quick turn throttle

[@Luke-qk8to]

Well the problem I’m running into is I need a fast, zippy, bike to run from environmental police…. In the woods. So either I build a fast woods bike or I say screw it and leave those pigs in the dust on a race bike

[@PlushEnduro]

Kalifornia? RIP bro