Metabolic Scientist Eats 140g Sugar Daily for 30 Days to See What Happens

[@winnersofchampions]

I'd be more interested in his tryglicerides after the oreo cookie demonstration.

[@maddisonbythesea3015]

Same

[@joelsmith4816]

Exactly

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

TG actually went down, as would be expected. It's nuanced but here's the explanation: - Over just 16 days of eating +12 Oreos/day (short time frame), I did not become insulin resistant. - However, the extra Oreos did increase my insulin levels. Insulin stimulates Lipoprotein Lipase which converts VLDL to LDL (also generating HDL-C) and lowering TG. - This is why LMHR have high LDL-C, high HDL-C and low TG - So, upon increasing my fasting insulin relative to baseline - but still being insulin sensitive - when I got my lipids tested in the fasted state, the TG in chylomicrons from meals had cleared but there was a relative increase in LPL action on VLDL in the fasted state relative to the baseline ketogenic (Oreo-free) diet, yielding a slight drop in TG to the high 30s. Make sense? To be clear, I won't not expect this pattern to continue were I to eat Oreos for a year+ since the development of insulin resistance would eventually become more powerful. A key point here is that acute changes don't necessarily translate into chronic changes. But, in the case of Oreo vs Statin, the dynamic/acute changes were the outcome of interest since I/we were demonstrating the dynamic nature of Human Lipid Metabolism. Link to paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38276308/ Link to Lipid Energy Model Paper: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35629964/

[@mbe102]

@@nicknorwitzPhD dude, this is hilariously awesome, and infinitely interesting! Thanks for taking one... or 12 oreos, for the team!

[@marcukcoelhohighealth2362]

What a great way to get clicks and be noticed…my emotional reaction is: stupid!! No details of anything given and 2 weeks of these, 4 weeks of that. What is that for? Bottom line is, both trying to get clicks.

[@MrHartless2007]

140g….. those are rookie numbers

[@MishynOfficial]

Cmon, look at him

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Actually 120g net carbs, 100 from Oreo. Yes, certainly not "high" by many standards.

[@EvilEvo_3]

i mean you are not wrong lol most 7/11 big gulps are 200+g of sugar lol but, in oreos, thats kinda alot i guess

[@MishynOfficial]

@@EvilEvo_3 couple of small packs maybe

[@jl3114]

@@MishynOfficial I bet he didn't even dip them in milk

[@victoria256r]

The concept of health in "The 23 Former Doctor Truths" book completely explains this. I wish I read it sooner.

[@jaimeisreal]

My emotional response to this is nil. I listen without judgment. Not how I 'feel' or think is false. I listen with an open-mind. I'm a student for well-being, and always will be -- until I die. Fantastic information guys. Incredible actually. Keep it up brothers! Thank-you.

[@glamempire]

someone give this guy a medal

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Excellent comment

[@lewynld]

I wish they would show full labs though, pre and post. It is hard to derive a lot from this.

[@PDXTTT]

If you don’t have high cholesterol or follow a keto-ish diet, this might not interest you. However, as someone with high LDL who fits Nick’s ‘lean mass hyper-responder (LMHR) phenotype,’ I find it fascinating. Nick’s experiment highlights how much the medical community still misunderstands about lipids and cholesterol and the need for more rigorous studies. It resonates with me because after going keto-ish, all my health markers improved, I reached my ideal weight, gained muscle more easily, yet my LDL skyrocketed. I’m also uncomfortable with my doctor pushing statins, given their potential side effects and limited benefits.

[@craigcrawford6749]

There's no such thing as high ldl, it's healt.

[@vinterskog]

Same here, high LDL with my keto diet. And if I say "there is no bad cholesterol, each have their separate role", people think I'm crazy.

[@PDXTTT]

@@vinterskog I am with you 100%. My problem is some of those people include my primary care doc who still leverages what I now believe to be outdate guidelines. Which goes back to why it's great Thomas had Nick on the channel to underscore the need for more investment and studies on this front.

[@patriciahill9662]

Same... I eat low carb, low body fat (LMHR) all bookmarkers are good, and LDL is high. I do believe the body is functioning differently with less glucose and has adapted to using fats for fuel. I don't think this is a bad thing!

[@FaithSeed11]

Guys it’s the fact that high cholesterol doesn’t matter NOT that sugar is good for you.

[@2BWiley2]

I don't fit Nick's phenotype and doubt much of this would apply to me personally, but intellectually this was a fantastic and stimulating vid. Definitely get's me thinking about assumptions, relationships, unintended consequences, etc., in multiple areas. Loved it, went and subscribed to Nick's channel.

[@SF-ow5ru]

Good to finally have Dr. Nick on. Maybe bring Dr. Norton along and have a debate?? I'll get the popcorn ready..

[@MrWingiii]

norton won’t do that …nick is way more informed and he’ll be embarassed

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

(1) I'd be happy to. I've offered many times, and Thomas actually once offered to host. However, Layne has since refused to engage with me on account of ... (2) Layne Tried to Cover this. Didn't go so well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5rUZ2qtpbqbf9U

[@SF-ow5ru]

​@@nicknorwitzPhDI wonder why.. 😅

[@smgofdvld]

The Cookie Monster approved diet 😅 jokes aside it’s interesting research

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

My college best friend's Nick Name... not kidding... in my valedictory speech: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raTNgZejnK-mhsUsi=P2aezwnKIefzprXu&t=250

[@BenjaminHuarez]

As a first time viewer of this channel, my emotional response is "get to the point already!"

[@michaelkim4703]

RIGHT!

[@JamesG_3]

Agree to an extent- of course just getting the point is more efficient for most. But hopefully you can appreciate the mechanisms/science about this. It’s not a short tik tok video; a lot of time goes into these experiments and there aren’t really black and white answers. Also, what he is doing “contradicts” science and medical practices that are being implemented on real people everyday, so it’s definitely something that isn’t easily explainable, hence the drawn out video. Best.

[@jl3114]

Around these parts, you better just get used to it. Thomas Delauer is the KING of stretching 2 minutes worth of info into 20 minute videos

[@rockyciraco9531]

Excellent and powerfully amazing presentation on many levels gentlemen. Kudos.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Cheers.

[@JesusMartinez-mk6fc]

Great interview video Tom! Nick Norwitz is one of the most intelligent, nuanced and interesting new young researchers in the metabolism field. He's going to reach very high levels in his research career.

[@keithhill2143]

Super interesting. So much to learn about lipids. My MD hates when I bring this stuff to her, and then get labs and prove the theoretical keto interventions. I cycle in and out of keto bi annually. Keep the interesting videos coming TD.

[@garylawton230]

Great video guys! I was really happy to see you both talking again. Thanks, Thomas for listening/replying to my email! 😜

[@JamesOGant]

Maybe that’s part of why sugar is addictive- it takes several weeks for the lipids to go back up and that may in older people or heavier people be a time of extremely low energy. Most people I know who tried Keto said that they had no energy and that’s why they quit.

[@George-lz6ue]

Interesting. Could I suggest those people should stick with Keto for longer. In my experience it takes about 12 weeks to become truly fat adapted. I have a fair bit of energy on Keto - I exercise in the morning 7 days a week.

[@nickybjammin7629]

……And Oreo cookie sales just soared to a record all-time high.

[@briancristina2890]

Great video 👍🏽

[@googlefriend8410]

Yep, I have seen Nick's metabolic phenotype as somewhat unique, actually what he refers to a Lean Mass Hyper Responder. I would love to see the rest of his blood panel. I would guess he has a metabolic panel that is closer to a type one diabetic that has super good control of his insulin intake. I would guess his fasting insulin is low and very responsive. He would have excellent mitochondrial metabolism. He has great metabolic diversity. Low BMI is very relevant to his results. Basically, what most keto people aspire to be like. The superman of metabolic health. He is still pretty young. It will be interesting to see how that changes with age. Oreo sales went up and statins drug sales went down but understand that was not the point of his study. Very good discussion Thomas. Love many of the interviews you have had in the last few years.😊

[@ShinobiShaw]

Thanks for the video, and Thomas is looking good on here 😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@skincraftorganicsllc8537]

I love you both... thank you! :)

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Cheers :)

[@itwillbenicewhenitsfinished]

Suddenly the brain is happy that sugar is around. No longer need hi circulating “fat” levels for immediate energy

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

So I placebo-ed a 71% decrease in LDL-C? Wow, I have a powerful brain!

[@itwillbenicewhenitsfinished]

@@nicknorwitzPhD You misunderstand me - just be curious as you say. I didn't mention placebo or anything emotional. (I'm also an MD (ITU) with a MA in physiology (Oxon)) I'm a LMHR - been into this from the start. I was getting blood sugars of 1.9 (UK units, normal is 5) during exercise on keto - completely asymptomatic. The brain does appear to need glucose, it is the highest consumer of energy per gram. It probably sits at the top of the energy equation. If you're doing high intesity exercise on keto the brain needs some new strategies. I'm sure you're familiar wtih Noakes' work - he now thinks it's all about blood sugar and our obsession with muscle glycogen was misguided. If blood sugars are buffered robustly there is less need for high circulating lipids and their derivatives. No need to envoke placebo/nocebo (although like everything it will have a role too)

[@trueconspiracies7945]

I'm not eating Oreos.

[@pedrorangel4164]

Just finished 45 Oreos myself

[@geremeyhawn8901]

I also have high cholesterol over 400 concerned my doctor I am a carnivore. I don’t believe it’s come down yet. I haven’t been retested for a while. I believe this may be what my problem is. I’ve been leaner, but when I was Hunter gatherer and Paleo diet, I was leaner, and 20 pounds lighter muscle mass and had low cholesterol, but I did carnivore to increase my bones mass and muscle mass without TRT or steroids just high protein and 10,000 eggs/64 ounces a day for one year and 1 pound of meat day I was able to gain 20 pounds of lean muscle mass but my vascular fat went from 2 to 6 And my subcutaneous fat went from 9 to 14.

[@sgill4833]

How does Niacin factor into metabolism, since it raises blood glucose and lowers ldl and increases lipolysis and ketones after 4 hrs. My theory is that it depletes the liver of glycogen and forces it to metabolize fat once the glycogen is depleted. Most papers only say that the cause of increase of blood glucose is from temporary insulin resistance. However that doesn't explain the increased ketones and reduction in visceral fat. Only the liver needs to be depleted of glycogen for the body to make ketones, because of the brain liver vagus axis, from my understanding. My theory is the liver is drained of glycogen which floods the blood with glucose (without a corresponding increase in insulin?).

[@ofnazareth9376]

My emotional response that absolutely nothing changed for me since high LDL (based on the latest standards that were lobbied down by the statin companies to sell more statins to actually cause more heart disease since they actually want to kill you because they believe we have an overpopulation problem) is not bad and oreos are still bad for you because they lower LDL. People with the old standard of "normal" levels of cholesterol have been studied to live longer and have the least amount of all cause mortality rates then people with lower cholesterol or even higher cholesterol since cholesterol levels have a sweet spot. It's not about high or low. Both extremes are deadly. It's a bell curve. Total cholesterol at 140 and within an acceptable ratio in between the two types is the safest place to be yet your doctors are trained to convince you that you need to be on a statin with those numbers. Wake up people.

[@nicktheodorou3474]

A lot of what Nick says is misinterpreted and you can see that in the comment section of his channel. If you take the time to watch his videos they are informative although sometimes I feel they have a keto bias, but I also understand that is Nick’s passion. In the keto/carnivore space Nick provides some of the most interesting content and I enjoy that Nick doesn’t talk with the level of certainty that other content creators do but focuses more around sharing data and information regarding possible mechanisms for outcomes.

[@geremeyhawn8901]

But I also do high intensity weightlifting. I try to keep my heart rate 160 to 187 for over an hour of heavyweights and constantly moving and sprinting, and it doesn’t seem like it made my cholesterol go lower because I was doing that when I got the test that made me over 400.

[@mattburns7234]

Is there a link to this study?

[@almo29]

Me: "MOM, I can you bake me cinnamon buns. I need it to lower my cholesterol !" Sooo... Now I'm forced to see a psychiatrist... THX!!!

[@ZackRamsey14]

"Why does cholesterol go high in some individuals on a keto diet?" Let me save you a lot of time, it's decreased thyroid activity. We've known this for centuries. You don't need to eat oreos on a high fat diet to figure that out...

[@ML-xj5hk]

I don't even have words for how much nonsense this whole thing is. They don't get to the point because the point is to keep you watching until the end for the point which does not exist.

[@nospringchicken2211]

I use one of Thomas's favorites for 3 days to lower mine. I have about 2,000 calories a day of macadamia nuts. It works for me but I am not a lean mass hyper responder. Next time I am trying a combination of macadamia nuts and purple sweet potatoes.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Sweet... I'm a HoM partner... LOVE them! You'll like: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ_Kn2mfYtegkKssi=a4IgFklcjCDXywRx

[@verlatenwolf]

140g? Wait hold my jawbreaker.

[@duidale]

does the same thing happen with a bolus equivalent of alcohol?

[@alphacause]

So for those who are lean low carb eaters who are trying get their doctor or spouse off their back, because their doctor or spouse still subscribes to the misguided hypothesis that LDL causes heart disease, a few weeks before your lipid panel is taken just up your carbs by around 100 to 150 grams and you should be good. Yes, in an ideal world your physician or loved one should amend their understanding of how erroneous this hypothesis is, but for many people, the brainwashing is too strong that it is just easier to game the system.

[@CptApplestrudl]

I'm basically a newbie in detailed nutrition. In my head, if LDL's purpose is to transport fats, doesnt it make sense that your LDL goes up on a low carb diet since you get your energy from fats instead? And it goes down again when you switch back to carbs. And presumeably the body can switch more effectivley if it is healthy/fit and not obese, right?

[@satyricon451]

Kuhn addresses resistance to emerging and disruptive scientific developments in his model of paradigm shifts.

[@jennysiepka9900]

Thomas could you possibly do a clip on if HDL can be " too high"🎉

[@christinawoodard3754]

Not surprised about that cholesterol mine has been super high for years.

[@JeanLucConnery]

Why would anyone need to lower LDL? We need it and what does eating Oreo’s do to blood sugars and the Randal cycle?

[@Baseregister]

I enjoy listening to Dr Nick, he's eloquent. Wonder how many people he tempted to try an Oreo diet. 🤣

[@JohnWilliams-gy5yc]

Nick is now getting another MD!! I bet he's aiming cardiology, of course. If they let him in, there will be a wreak havoc in heart paper landscape. Very interesting.

[@jirihutecka9020]

Simple sugars are good fuel during hard activity. No question about that. Ask every athlete from cyclist to strongman. If you are sedentary your intake of simple sugars should be basicaly zero apart form some fruit in moderation.. Same eith complex carbs to refuel glycogen in muscles and the liver. The more active you are the mote you can eat and vise versa.. For sick person who needs to lower inflammation and is not active. Low carb is preferable..

[@wb7779]

Every time I eat sugary foods before a running exercise, it has had a negative impact on performance. In short, sugar is not very good for the heart. At least for mine, it wasn't. To be honest, I think sugar is the worst you can have before a running exercise.

[@mattf5207]

I have concluded the same. I usually run first thing in the morning, without consuming anything. That’s when I feel lithe and springy, if you will. When I eat sugars, I feel subpar and have thought it was something in my head. 🏃‍♂️

[@CairnsLobster]

This stuff will grow your numbers Dr Norwitz, great for the geeks as well these studies, Thomas no doubt loved it all. Struggling to think of other positive. There's a real and present high level of addiction to these foods like Oreos. How about n=1 involving fermented foods? Will get you zero new subscribers haha. Its like if you won't to get comments be controversial, be provocative, don't be nice it will get you nowhere, argue, insult all that you'll go far. Studies with junk food just don't sit well with me no matter how many times I think it through. You and Thomas don't have food addictions that's the difference you guys have discipline and metabolic health you can do the Oreo protocol no worries. Look around Nick, there's junk food advertising everywhere, it's everywhere. That's what your leveraging, no wonder it's working hey. Andre

[@NutritionPolice]

THANK YOU FOR SAYING NICHE CORRECTLY!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Lol... thanks...

[@TG-vg3qe]

What about inflammation markers? CRP? From what I've been hearing, LDL may be the nail in the coffin but it's inflammation that's the hammer that drives the LDL into arteries to form CVD.

[@googlefriend8410]

Great observation. One of the better comments. Longer term results or implications would confirm suspicions but I would not want to extend the Oreo study, could have disastrous results to personal health.

[@christinawoodard3754]

I love Oreos. Can’t have it in the house. Did you eat them with milk?????? YUUUUM

[@flyebos]

Starting point is a keto diet. Replicate the study on a balanced diet of carb/fat/prot

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

You may be missing the point...

[@Healthcollegium]

That’s why its called The Cholesterol Hypothesis

[@HartlepoolLad]

Was it the carbs reducing your LDL or maybe the cocoa in the Oreos? Cocoa has effects on reducing LDL cholesterol, systolic and diastolic blood pressure, and fasting blood glucose…

[@ChrisMahtal]

You just know Oreo packaging is gonna claim they're good for your heart after this.

[@JedT1L]

Other than just exploring some scientific curiosity, what purpose does this experiment serve? Who pays for such experiments?

[@diversidad_673]

Hola amigo aiempre tus entevistas son muy interesantes bendiciones ❤🤗

[@choanlpoto]

12 Oreo a day ? Yeaaa I’m a scientist.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I'm getting 2 doctorates... and this is what I need to do to get people to pay attention to our non-conventional research... what does that tell you?

[@crazysrb3050]

When you go full carnivore the closer to raw the better for some time you will take back everything you said. Congratulations on the 2 doctorates btw. I’m sure like most that have gotten degrees not just in this field will realize what they have gotten themselves into some time down the road. The indoctrinated are never aware until a sudden awakening. I only know a couple ex Docs who made the right decision once they realized that they didn’t want to be someone’s 007 agents.

[@_Hal9000]

Would be interesting too if he went carnivore keto (fat and meat no fiber) and add carbs.

[@MelonsandMaters]

Liquid Death is creepy. Living Water is my preference.

[@tdeiwert1]

That’s like one orange crush pop

[@sgill4833]

I did the same self test, dropped my cholesterol by eating a lot of Halloween chocolate. Felt like shit, but doctor said my cholesterol markers are good. When I was doing keto and feeling great they said my cholesterol was high.

[@ARBets23]

So what’s the actionable takeaway

[@timbaws1346]

@@ARBets23 Avoid sugar and avoid saturated fat

[@Candyanthrax]

God damn remembering handful of times a dimolished an entire box in a day

[@christinawoodard3754]

I did a 48hr fast and accidentally broke it at hour 39 hrs with a whole milk cafe latte. I really felt bad the. Ate what I wanted. I was so mad too. But I weighed myself this morning after only taking a pee. PEOPLE….. I LOST A WHOPPING 5.4lbs. YES. THATS CRAZY🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@George-lz6ue]

Try to work up to a 72h fast. Many health benefits.

[@barbaragaleazzo]

Did someone make the analysis of the composition of the Oreos????

[@justincredible5406]

Thomas' questions in these interviews are absolutely on point. Absolutely the best interviewer with his broad spectrum of knowledge.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I just listened back... he's a good listener ... and MAN ca I talk!

[@justincredible5406]

@@nicknorwitzPhD Yes, you can it's nice you don't talk in absolutes :D. You're measured with your responses, as when you said "In general the model has proved better". And giving credit to your colleagues. Excellent academic speak while also explaining the phenomena in layman's terms. Thanks again! :)

[@davidneal6920]

Still reckon a Starbucks caramel Frappuccino is a great pre-workout meal. I started on Oreos but once I got more serious I moved onto Starbucks

[@Adams420]

Nah, Dunkin is where it's at, one of those 1,500 cal shakes

[@howiesfunware]

A "fat burner" having more "fat" in the system. Who would have thought?

[@EcomDetective]

What was nicks response to post work out carbs in ketogenic context ? Dum b it down it for me plz ..any one ? 😢

[@quake2u]

I'm such a sugar addict the Oreo thumb nail freaks me out.

[@UHaulShorts]

So when is *Sir Yacht* makang a padkast appearance den?

[@MARZOSIRUS]

Sure it might be a cool experiment but 2 weeks to a month is not nearly long enough to truly see long term effects of a highly processed sugar carb like an oreo cookie. If I may I am 45 years old. I can give you a 40 year study of my own body. I have eaten the highly processed American diet for my whole life and guess what? I now have stage 4 colorectal Cancer. I have eaten Doritos the Big Bag from Costco and The big pack of Oreos on a regular. It was always a regular part of my shopping. I can tell you without a doubt if you eat 12 oreos a day for years. I guarantee you will either get Cancer or heart disease or diabetes. Dont do it. If you are going to eat garbage at least exercise. The exercise will at least help to get it out of your system faster. I have since gone full organic Keto only healthy fats. Guess what my health turned around immediately from eliminating highly processed carbs. Dont do it people. The Cancer rate is 1 in 3 for men and 1 in 4 for woman. Guess what the screening doesnt start until you are 40. If you are younger it can go unnoticed until its too late. Your health insurance and Doctors dont even look for Cancer until your 40. Moderation people.

[@zuzannabaranski]

I would have tested more natural stuff like sugar, honey or maple syrop or fruits or homemade chocolate chips cookies. Oreo are junk food.

[@christinawoodard3754]

I don’t pay attention anything but the Triglycerides once a year and I am good

[@JanKirb]

Way back in 2010 somebdy did the Twinkie Diet and did fine too.

[@TumbleSensei]

Sugar was never the problem. The other 540+ ingredients were.

[@karenthomas4404]

My husband eats that much or more daily. Also he consumes high fructose corn syrup daily! He wont listen to me and also I am diabetic. I try to resist sweets but it can be hard.

[@blessingsoutlaw]

RUN!! If he won’t support you or your needs he’s against you. Literally.

[@wtsuser]

Its not hard to avoid sweets. Eat real food. Get healthy and be the positive example

[@karenthomas4404]

@ I do dear…I have my diabetes under control now.

[@PDXTTT]

You might consider checking out some of Tony Robbins free content here on youtube to help your husband reprogram his thinking on nutrition. Tony teaches how to associate pain with the bad habit and pleasure with the new one. i.e. reversing diabetes gets your husband back to his former sexy and active body - what great things could happen? The actual transformation from doing Keto or Carnivore is fun, easy, and you'll get quick results.

[@sknails2723]

manup and finish those donuts

[@superbatlife]

How do you know it wasn't the increase in saturated fat that did it, the experiment would have been more accurate to me if you would have done carb increase only without saturated fat increase. I think your results are flawed

[@flyingwambulance]

What you're saying makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe go on the keto diet to remove that brain fog of yours. He started eating Oreo cookies to show that it lowers LDL for hyper mass responders.

[@flyingwambulance]

What you're saying makes no sense whatsoever. He started eating Oreo cookies to show that it lowers LDL for hyper mass responders. He then use his domain knowledge to draw possible inference towards what might be the cause. The Oreo cookies is a way to draw attention to the problem. Maybe try the Keto diet to clear up some of the brain fog.

[@flyingwambulance]

If you wanted him to eat pure sugar then you miss 2 points. 1) It would make less headlines. 2) There need to be mechanisms behind it that makes sense and further increasing the Saturated fat intake to lower the LDL doesn't make sense from a biological perspective. At this point in time of Keto research and lean mass hyper responder, getting attention to the problem is much more important than doing double-blind studies that isolates the compounds completely. The studies have completely different purposes, they are not the same.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

You think the increased saturated fat from the added Oreos lowered my LDL by 71%?

[@crazysrb3050]

I believe those test the hospitals have were always flawed to begin with and they’re always finding more ways to widen the deception. Their theory of testing is like saying I got into a car accident because I didn’t wear a seat belt.

[@homomorphic]

As an engineer, medical professionals mindless adherence to scientifically disproven dogma has brought me to the point where I largely consider the entire field to be mostly populated with incompetent buffoons (Nick excepted of course). That can't be good for the profession.

[@aronbarsukov]

I ate 1kg of sugar in 2 days once

[@savagepro9060]

According to the thumbnail, eating excessive Oreo Cookies can actually remove facial wrinkles!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I'm in my 20s...

[@Mregmee]

​@nicknorwitzPhD Honestly you look older than me, I am 43

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

@@Mregmee Funny... I usually get the opposite... maybe Oreos are pro-aging

[@Mregmee]

@nicknorwitzPhD may be sugar is pro aging. I gave up sugar, gluten, alcohol , processed food and smoking all together in 2013 after being diagnosed with an autoimmune condition. I reduced carbs and added fat and protein to my diet, started to eat 2 meals a day, nothing in between. Now my autoimmune condition is in remission. Also, I am 43, look much younger than my friends with the same age, still no gray hair. Not sure its sugar or eating habit overall.

[@rollinra8668]

But were they double stuffed?

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

No... actually double stuffed are only 1.86 times stuffed...

[@profchaos9001]

Pro cyclists eat 120 grams of sugar per hour during races plus a lot more pre and post. They burn all of it and have no issues.

[@Emera1d101]

yeah definitely studies useful for the sedentary majority

[@irisflora903]

@@Emera1d101lol right? Like why are you fighting for a diet that will make you sick

[@Emera1d101]

@@irisflora903 📠 lol

[@davidneal6920]

When I go deer hunting for a full day in the mountains I can knock back 6000 calories, about 500 - 700 grams of carbs and about 200 grams of fat. And still lose weight

[@thehealthwelnessreport]

You can't burn sugar off. You can burn calories, but sugar have adverse affects on the body. Eating 120g of sugar would actually make more sense to make them groggy.

[@mariacallas9962]

The anecdote fair…

[@thetruthrenegade]

the body is a dynamic process, it does what it needs in the long term, we are all short term focused trying this or changing that and every time we do this behai vor, it must adjust this insanity, and it never gets into a flow. diets and this type of mindset is subverting those processes. oh look all these studies that just came out and this is what we should do... so now we go change something on some BS study in which you trust people you don't even know. Our reliance on science is killing the years of evolutionary wisdom of the past. It's time to stop! The wisdom if the past cane up with terms Like SNAKE OIL SALESMAN...... There is a reason we created that Idea. Wake Up People. Oh, and the idea of a Diet? Ya go tell a Lion or a Bear he should go on a diet or try dieting. The body mind hates man made abstract concepts. If McDonald's and coke are so bad, please explain Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger.

[@GerardoHernandezF87M2]

That’s only 520 calories

[@Kinson09]

Is that an indicator of health though, just LDL

[@davidmiller6010]

And of course we know now that high LDL is beneficial and a bio marker for longevity.

[@robertbrown6531]

His n=1 experiments might be an authentic attempt to engage in a creative dialogue about diet. However in reality, when you read the people who follow him they just take his short term experiments as a green light to keep eating way too much meat, fat, eggs etc.

[@nicktheodorou3474]

@@robertbrown6531 Yes I have noticed this on his channel. I enjoy Nick’s videos very much, but the comment section is full of misinterpretation. A few things I have noticed about the online carnivore community and my personal interactions with people doing carnivore is 1) They talk with so much certainty and you know what they say about people that talk with certainty…..2)They start to become conspiracy theorists and end up in the flat earth space. Would love to understand the psychology that drives this.

[@carmelzion1]

Need to have Dr. Mark Hyman on to explain the difference in the LDL molecules that this guys obviously don’t have a clue about. All LDL mol aren’t created equal.

[@tiffanysanchez6697]

Can I eat Oreos or not 😆🤣😂

[@jaimeisreal]

🤣 In moderation of course!

[@nospringchicken2211]

Only if you are a lean mass hyper responder. Even then I think Nick would suggest other options like sweet potatoes.

[@superstarsatus1629]

lol aint gone kap bro bru i woke up in the middle of the night craving cookies after I had 4 steak burger with mustard I had cookies but I walked like 6 miles or more today.

[@Icarianbrother]

The meeting of the minds of two clickbait charlatans.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

(Open Mind + Open Mind) * Emotional Troll = Algo Boost... look at that... I'm a mathematician too!

[@keithhill2143]

I’ve turned my health around by following many principles in TD videos. It’s is not for everyone but results are results. And doing the hard work instead of being a troll and calling names like a child is what matters. Bring something valuable to the conversation or keep quiet.

[@Icarianbrother]

@@nicknorwitzPhD I believe that you put out videos with information that is harmful to public health and that you do it for video clicks. I see you as truly evil!

[@michaelkim4703]

Get to the damn point

[@timbaws1346]

Saturated fat is the enemy

[@zakarayaful]

i hate "experts" who want to impress the masses by confusing them. total rubbish and waste of time.

[@4stringedbass]

You don't find this experiment interesting?

[@zakarayaful]

@4stringedbass not really.

[@methanial73]

The details of why things are true or not should be important. Do you just lack any curiosity or just want only the answers spoon fed to you?

[@zakarayaful]

@methanial73 yes. He could have made it simple for the general public.

[@crazysrb3050]

I believe it too. All this measuring and we people still don’t know anything. Their theory of measuring has always been flawed created to confuse and deceive. Their theory of measurement is like saying I git into a car accident because I didn’t wear a seatbelt. I wish this kid would debate Bart Kay so he can rip him a new one.

[@smiith7996]

I haven't got time to watch this verbiage. What happened?

[@youcallmejr4683]

In layman's term?

[@LouisHansell]

@25:15...Bingo!

[@BLUE20456]

Lol

[@maddisonbythesea3015]

Anyone have the tl;dr? I'm not sitting through 30 minutes of this. 😅

[@deathandrebirth-y8x]

eat cookies. Ldl low. what does that mean? no one knows.

[@snak-s7952]

Lightweight

[@methanial73]

Nick, I only ask that you don't align with the axis of evil who ignore science while claiming to care so much about it.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

"Axis of evil" ... who? If you're suggesting I don't get bought off by Coke or Big Pharma, I promise that won't happen. If you're asking whether I'll join up with the Lannisters... gotta' admit, it's tempting.