"Get your kids into Photography, that way they'll never have money for drugs."
@mr.treefrog86415 жыл бұрын
@SwitchRich got to teach them marketing some how right
@johnm60885 жыл бұрын
so
@SeanKimStyle5 жыл бұрын
But They got addicted in buying gears
@owainshaw5 жыл бұрын
@@SeanKimStyle They still might become gear-heads.
@mikeatkins29645 жыл бұрын
Can actually confirm
@cgriggsiv5 жыл бұрын
Thomas great video but you cannot give away that hat it does not matter if it's a little large use a baseball cap if you have to. The person who knitted that hat has a very kind-hearted soul and excellent skills P.S Thomas wash the hat in extremely hot water and then throw it in the dryer it should shrink
@scotty44185 жыл бұрын
To me, the bit at the end of the vlog summaries the benefits of printing as you have done the planning, the travelling, getting on scene and then taking the image. Printing the image is the completion of the journey especially when the adventure has been a memorable one
@Elysianplains5 жыл бұрын
Should Thomas keep the hat? Yes: 👍🏻 No: 👎🏻
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
The vid is about printing.
@raymondgoodman91485 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 how many times did you make this comment?
@redauwg9115 жыл бұрын
John- Manners always come first.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
@@raymondgoodman9148 - Hopefully once for every nitwit who posted a fanboy hat comment to a printing vid. Did I miss one?
@frauleindaniela5 жыл бұрын
John Smith Yes me! Now I'm offended. How could you miss my comment? Maybe you're just not thorough enough?
@jacebeleren4295 жыл бұрын
I know the comment section is turning into hatgate 2019, but printing is my favorite part of photography. Some advice from someone who did a bit of a deep dive into the subject. Your printer/paper will define your end product, similar to how instagram lends itself to square crops and over saturation. You need to understand first the broad strokes of what you want to make before you shop. Do you want to print fast, at high quality, how wide do you want to go, does my cameras resolution work with the size I want to print... on and on. I was on the verge of choosing that pro1000, but I realized I wanted to go wide. That printers driver only supports something like 17"x25.5" and that is what you are locked into. So I ended up going with the Epson P800 because it has a roller attachment which allows me to use 17"x100'+ rolls. The widest I have printed so far is 17"x110" which really gives me the sense of scale I was trying to communicate. The P800 also allows you to print on thick inflexible media like metal plates and the such. Anyhow my point is not that one printer is better than the other, (because they are both great) but that you will be bound to the physical dimensions and media materials compatible with the printer. FWIW If you are just starting out get the Canon pro100, pick up a few sample packs of Moab, Canson, Hahnemuhle, or whatever and start your journey. To me, printing is the most satisfying thing about photography. Just make sure you ask your spouse before you hang a ~10ft wide photo on your livingroom wall ;-).
@LegacyStudio5 жыл бұрын
Just got my Canon Pro100 and it has opened my eyes Thomas. Thank you for all your videos and it has inspired me to get one and get started! I absolutely love it and my KZbin channel has a new goal. Review camera tech and get “the bucket print” from every location I get. Thanks so much for the inspiration and as always, I absolutely love your work man!
@heero1010865 жыл бұрын
Thomas! You can’t give away that hat! A fan put in all that effort to make you a hat and you just want to give it away? I’m sure you can “edit” the hat to make it fit....
@cgriggsiv5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. You cannot give away that hat to anyone. The person who knitted that hat is a very special person with a lot of heart that did that so what if the hat is a little bit too big you just cannot give that away to anyone
@Caspersight5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would be so pissed off if I made that and he just through it to one side and said who wants it lol. Just slide it back a bit so you can see!
@geriko295 жыл бұрын
I have to agree Thomas that feels slightly clumsy for that poor follower, even if I'm sure you were full of goodwill!
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
@@Caspersight - All you people need to get over yourselves.
@thdcinema5 жыл бұрын
Don't rush to conclusions on this one guys, perhaps the person or persons who made the oversized hat for him are making him a new well fitted hat for him as we speak.....or not, I could be wrong too ;0)
@seandonno92485 жыл бұрын
Not enough photographers print their work, or get prints done! For me it completes the process from point of capture to final printed image, and I have total control over this whole process. I dithered for ages on buying a printer, but in the end went for the fantastic Canon PRO100S. Got it for 250 UK pounds and it prints up to A3+ sizes. Large enough for any prints I want to display around the home. Genuine set of inks can be got for 75 pounds. I print ALL of my favourite images on 5x7 paper first, and make any adjustments before printing to A3+. I ignore the initial cost of the printer, just as I wouldn't consider the price of a new lens. It's a one off cost. So basing my print costs on the paper and replacement inks alone, 5x7 prints cost just over 1 UK pound per print, and just over 6 UK pounds for an A3+. I think this is a bargain personally, and worth every penny to me. Interesting also, that when I started to print it changed my whole post processing workflows, for the better.
@semperfi-1918 Жыл бұрын
Im in USA. And i get cost of start and cost of exspenses running business. One is recovery cost and the other ... well is with the print for the cost of goods. But in the end once i have mine set up and i have enough slush fund and justifyable selling enough prints to cover the cost... then itll be worth it.
@MO-ss7qt Жыл бұрын
Ah, love the print on 5x7 first! Why didn't I think of that!
@JeffCreates5 жыл бұрын
Is it wool? Put it on an absurdly high temperature to shrink it, then put it on your head when it's still wet - bespoke sizing!
@PaulAdshead5 жыл бұрын
this ^
@nuno_das_fotos5 жыл бұрын
Exactly was just about to write that but came here looking for comments!
@djvincon5 жыл бұрын
Thissss
@HeathBarbierPhoto5 жыл бұрын
Jeff coming in with the top tips!
@JeffCreates5 жыл бұрын
Heath L Barbier only regarding fabric care and haberdashery
@danev19695 жыл бұрын
Thomas, Over the years we owned 24" professional printers and the profit margin was narrow. We are retired now and we are members of a local Photography club in Sun City AZ. A few years back our club purchased a Canon iPF-6400 24" (similar to your Pro-1000). We manage the profiles (we can make our own with Silverfast). With this setup, our members can print a 16 x 20 on art paper for about $5.00 to maybe $10.00 depending on the paper. And we have members that print a 24x36 on Breathing Color Canvas for about $20.00. This is probably the only way self-printing can be economical. All of our computers are color managed and it takes a team to ensure the accuracy and minimal waste that allows us to keep cost down. Thanks as always for the excellent video.
@millcitymercantile4 жыл бұрын
Without sounding like a hater... I was very surprised that Thomas gave away a hat that someone took the time to make for him. Of course, that's just my thoughts.
@dayjeenhomeschool13692 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. I would just keep it because someone is kind enough and thoughtful enough to make the hat, especially for him, fit or not I would just keep it. I don't hate or dislike Thomas. Thank you for making this video.
@andre1987eph2 жыл бұрын
You're a good judge of character. I felt the same way.
@googledeez55522 жыл бұрын
I agree as well, his parents must’ve not taught him to appreciate little things.
@p.i.vanblerk3043 Жыл бұрын
I actually think it's a good thing. If you're not gonna use it is better to give it away than throw it in a closet for it to never be used. If I had made that hat I would had been fine with him giving it away to someone who might have a better use for it.
@utopia901 Жыл бұрын
Same. Pretty ungrateful. Stitching a hat like that takes time.
@simeontse53845 жыл бұрын
In a digital age, an picture is not a image until you can hold it in your hands. I owned an Epson 4900 and I found that the printing experience another part of creating an image. There is something so satisfying watching the print head go back and forth laying down one of the most expensive liquids known to man. Having had to relocate for work, I had to sell my printer and it is something I miss dearly. Keep up the content coming Thomas, love watching!!!
@SD_Alias5 жыл бұрын
Wash the hat at 60-90° C in washing machine and it will fit your head ;-)
@mymenare5 жыл бұрын
but, do not be wearing the hat, when you do this.....
@dorycoli3 жыл бұрын
He didn't like your answer mate, i think it was a good idea, at this point i think he just did't like the hat, he wants to get rid of it.
@josh8855 жыл бұрын
I just got a Canon pro-10 for $100 after xmas sale. It's normally a $700 printer. I agree with you 100% After the first print came out that was it. Now for me photos on the screen aren't even real or finished anymore. There is simply no way to describe the feeling when your photo which you saw in your mind, than created with your camera now exists in the real world not just virtually on a screen. Manifesting the work in the real physical world is the final, and true act of creation. It didn't' exist and now it does. Because of you. That's not something you can even put a price on. I can never go back to not printing. After doing it myself I would never go back to using a lab either unless I wanted a print that was too big for me to make. I adjust the photo for the print depending on the paper I'm using and the lighting where the photo is going to be displayed ect. It is part of the creative process and not something I want to leave to someone else.
@seandonno92485 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more :-)
@stevenscarborough93765 жыл бұрын
Agree. I, too, bought a Canon Pro 10 for $100. Have to tell ya I got got hooked and love the printing process. Spent a lot on extra ink and paper (of course I now prefer Canson PrintMaking Rag...heh, heh...$) I am glad I got into printing, as it is a pleasing part of my creative process as a hobbyist.
@jaredwolfe84385 жыл бұрын
Yep pro-10 is great. Have enjoyed mine the passed few years. Still haven’t done anything bigger than 8x10 but I need to.
@josh8855 жыл бұрын
@bellaconca Well from what I understand these rebates only happened in the U.S. Also the reason why it was so cheap is because Murphyy's camera had a big discount in addition to the rebate Canon was offering. Murphy's sale price was $300 and canon was offering a $200 rebate at authorized retailers. So that makes it $100. But I got a combo deal for paper too. So after Murphy's discounts and Canon's rebates I got the printer and 100 sheets of 13X19 (A3+) canon pro luster paper for $120+$65 for shipping.
@johnburgess15475 жыл бұрын
To handle a print that you have created from start to finish and see it come out of the printer is magical. At least you can boast "All my own work"
@mhc2b5 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas - I make my "photo" money by setting up at juried outdoor art shows in the Southeast US. For me, being able to print what I sell at these shows is extremely important. My printer is an Epson P6000, 24". I print on Matte fine art paper (Epson Hot Press) with mat black ink. Two big reasons why I choose to print my own - I can print WHENEVER I want, and I have full CONTROL over the final print, not to mention that I can see the results in a few minutes, instead of a few days. If I had to buy prints from any lab, the first disadvantage is time. Secondly is the inconsistency of quality. Granted, I sell at a much larger quantity than you do, from 20 prints per mediocre show to 50+ prints at a really good show. I do about 20-25 shows per year, depending on how many accept me. PS - Always enjoy your videos. Wish I could travel as much as you do, but could not tolerate the extremes of the weather and difficult terrains that you cover!!
@TWBrit655 жыл бұрын
Printer: a business plan cycle is 5 years, divide the printer cost by either 3 or 5 years... Hat: Never give away a personal gift - it's just rude
@Artyomthewalrus4 жыл бұрын
Always ensure a personal gift gets use. If I were to spend a dozen hours knitting a hat, which didn't fit the intended wearer, I would much rather they forward it to someone else who will use it rather than simply leaving it in a drawer unused for the sake of politeness.
@MagicCallanta5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a pro 1000 last week.. printing gives my photography life
@johnhjic25 жыл бұрын
I to find it so satisfying taking the image printing the image and framing the images. In the last three years I have started making my own moulding out of hard woods caving and shaping and its such a scence of achievement. Yes I get a lot of people now asking for frames I think the biggest was 3 meters by 2 meters. But I just love printing my own images. Nice video Thomas.
@Goughie5 жыл бұрын
I’ve considered buying a printer for a while! They are so cheap second hand too! I can’t recommend printing or getting your photos printed enough! There’s something special about holding a print! Ps Don’t give away the hat!! It’s an awesome gift regardless!
@matthewkrah15675 жыл бұрын
Printing is truly rewarding when you are finished with a master file and it comes out to a physical item. Well worth the money!
@jbairdexp5 жыл бұрын
One day I'll sit down and work out how much it costs me to make a print at home... until that point, I'll just carry on in ignorance and enjoy all the benefits!
@danielbaggenstos76755 жыл бұрын
Congrats to the Lady who made that hat, beautiful work!
@jimrookphotos5 жыл бұрын
Thomas, maybe since you tried printing, you could try to wash the hat. If it's wool or a blend, it will shrink. Be careful though not to put it into the drier especially in the hot cycle. Do the hot cycle and you'll find out your head is bigger than you think. No pun intended. Regarding printing, yes quality papers are costly but there are some quality options such as Red River Papers that also offer some sales annually thus making their beautiful Baryta paper quite reasonable on cost. You can also consider purchasing smaller sizes of the paper for the test prints.
@demppa83234 жыл бұрын
I really like your "man in a shed" analogy. There are 2 types of people a pro/enthusiast printers cater for: the people who are actually looking to streamline their print sales and see this as an investment, and the people who are not going to sell a single print but want more involvement in the craft. I hate when a lot of videos focus on the former crowd and turn into an echo chamber of "just use labs if you're not printing all the time". Getting that new lens does not always make sense, but the enjoyment you get from the experience has a lot of worth on its own. I see printers and printing similar: It is indeed the missing link of turning that vision in your mind into something tangible. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed the "going on a bit" parts the most!
@Ulrich.Bierwisch5 жыл бұрын
You don't need to buy a camera, lenses, tripod, filter, bag, computer, software, printer, ink, paper, travel to remote locations, stay days or weeks in rain and cold just to take a few mediocre pictures and hang them on the wall. You only need to find your favorite youtube channel that does everything for you and sell much better pictures for a decent price. On the other hand - it's fun.
@miriammoriarty85883 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yes. It's the process.
@GMC435 жыл бұрын
I look forward to a Sunday. Out most of the day the chill out and watch some Thomas 👌 i learn something new everyday sunday. Thanks Thomas
@SD_Alias5 жыл бұрын
one thing to consider is if you have longer printing breaks, for a month or longer, the printhead may clog and dry. So endless cleaning routines and massive ink consumption is the result. I would only buy a printer if i would really often print without longer breaks…
@RichFreeman5 жыл бұрын
Yup. I got a printer bundled with a camera and ended up parting it out on Ebay and donating the rest just because it made no sense for me to maintain the thing properly. I wouldn't print that much, and you can't just let an inkjet sit for months between prints. I rarely print anyway, but if I did I'd just order from a lab, where if they run out of ink the middle of a run they just toss it in the trash and print it again. If I were in business I'd be more likely to consider it a cost of doing business and consider the value of being able to turn around prints in a short time. If you get enjoyment out of watching the print come out by all means buy a printer, but I just don't really value that part of the experience...
@mylittleninjas5 жыл бұрын
Georg E. I forgot to mention that in my post. Printers are meant to be used as a production tool, not just as a convenience for occasional prints. They become an expensive headache for a lot of unknowing consumers. The sales people won’t tell you that.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
Important point, these things will use a ton of ink charging themselves.
@r.alecbowman12325 жыл бұрын
You can help keep the inks from drying out by leaving the power on the printer. The heat helps keep the ink from drying out. (This suggestion comes from Canon)
@renambot5 жыл бұрын
The pro-1000 does very well even after several weeks not used. I have it in a very dry office for several years and it's fine. It might take a little while to warm up and self-clean, but it's much better than any printer I got before (pro-10, various epson and hp).
@BadPigg5 жыл бұрын
I now understand why i think I am crazy and am ok with that. I like the control and satisfaction of the full creative process. I think you have given a perfect diagnosis of this creative and rewarding photography obsession I have. Thank you Thomas.
@MarinaGarrison4 жыл бұрын
The value of a print depends on your philosophy of photography. Is it about the journey or the end result? For many people (myself included) photography is an art form and the value is in the end result.
@Momo-yl3hs Жыл бұрын
So it’s not about being profitable business investment but rather self-actualization value right ?
@LPNewsomPhotography5 жыл бұрын
Thomas, I lost a beloved scarf in Iceland. In Feb of 2016, to be exact. No chance our garments met? Sadly, no one cared I was there. So happy your member was returned. My scarf-buddy's disappearance still haunts me to this day. 😓 Happy for you for your happy ending. 😉
@gstandaert5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. The initial invest of buying a decent printer, inks and a couple of different papers is rather big. But seeing your own photograph rolling out of your own printer is just magical :) ps: When you print from Lightroom there's an option to print the copy name underneath the image. No need to smudge it :p
@sujiphoto5 жыл бұрын
No matter what the subject, I always find myself grinning whilst watching your videos! (Perhaps not so much when you're depressed over camera reviews...) Keep on keeping on!
@QuietLightPhoto5 жыл бұрын
Sad to say but I think my head would be too big for the hat, apart from that Karin would be quite offended that I was wearing another man's hat, lol. Okay, the snowy wonderland shot looks great without the twigs at the bottom, you sold me.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
I'd forgotten the twigs, they would have added scale.
@tobiasyoder5 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 Not really, they were in the very foreground and with a wide lens it would actually make the mountains even smaller. Also, the viewer would not really know how large the twigs were anyway.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasyoder - Yes really.
@thelmakelly36284 жыл бұрын
Thomas, before you give the hat away, you should find someone handy that can stitch a cozy piece of fabric (like a headband style) around the inside perimeter of the hat! I just love your videos!
@tomaskonkol88945 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, very nice replica of your hat, love to have it. But! Given Gift should not be given away, its not nice to Pearson who give it to you. Home printing? I love that feeling when you can produce everything at home. Its like in old days when you produce your photos in dark room and in end of day you have your product in your hand.
@asyukr Жыл бұрын
Very good review of photography business. I like your approach to a business process. And, your landscape photos are amazing.
@romiemiller24854 жыл бұрын
Beyond my other comments, the proof is in the printing. It's amazing how much better a photographer you'll become if you print your own photos.
@MrJimckorn5 жыл бұрын
Until you print you do not realize how bad your photography is until you print. Excellent technique for feedback. The expense forces you to do better. note: I have a large head if no one wants your cap,I will take. Every time I buy a cap that says one size fits all, it fits all except me. Thanks for the video
@AmorLucisPhotography5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that really timely video as I've been thinking in the past few weeks about getting a printer. But I'm not sure I agree with your cost comparison. Your costs estimate seems to assume that you replace the printer every year after printing just 30 images. In reality the initial cost of the printer would be spread over the useful lifetime of the printer - 3 to 5 years, perhaps? - rather than one. A fairer cost estimate for the printer costs for one year would therefore be much less, perhaps 180 to 300 pounds per year. If we assume a complete set of inks every year (Thomas: if you could give us an estimate of ink costs on 30 x A2 prints that would be really useful, we're guessing a bit without that info. You suggested that a couple of inks might need replacing every couple of months, so that suggests about 12 inks per year) and high quality art paper at 5 pounds per sheet, I think that comes to between 26 to 30 pounds per sheet, which would be *cheaper* than the lab costs (with errors and test prints probably making them about the same).
@seoirse685 жыл бұрын
Wow Tom. Just bought a printer this Christmas(Pro 10S) Really pleased with it. The joy of printing an image rounds of the whole photographic experience. Great vlog!
@olivierwhite24515 жыл бұрын
Great video Thomas i learned a few things:), i recently bought a pro 100 from canon. You can find refill cartridges online and perfectly fine ink with it. I use brother matte photo paper and my total €1 per print. (a3) it gives you so much more print fun, and you dont have to be so stressed. Printing should be fun.
@sl26082 жыл бұрын
That is what my costs come to also. I think his calculations are way too high. There is no way an A2 print cost in the U.S. is $70 as I believe he said in the video.
@PMCJohn5 жыл бұрын
It’s funny because I work at a print shop, one of the largest fees on most of our jobs is the cost of the paper, but it depends on the job. However we don’t use inkjet often, only when we are working on a wide format printer, we use laser jet which is a lot less expensive but has a smaller color range. But still anyways, the digital printer industry now has gone to absolute crap, they charge so much for something so inexpensive for them, and they make their machines bully you with software errors. For example, inkjet cartridges are sold for like $30USD when they produce them for probably $1-4 each. And the cartridges have chips in them that say they’re “empty” when they are still half full. However in the end, the satisfaction you spoke of, is what makes me like printing so much, I am able to supervise a print from receiving a file or even a request, to printing it, to packaging it, to shipping, delivering, or handing off the product. It is just an outstanding feeling.
@WayneRobertsonPhotography5 жыл бұрын
I agree that it is wise to look into the costs and effort involved with printing your own images before committing to the purchase of an expensive printer. If you can cope with the costs etc. then like you say it's a very rewarding feeling to see your images in print knowing you've done it all from start to finish. I think if you have a passion for photography you will love printing.
@DWebbmedia5 жыл бұрын
I have literally just been looking for a hat when I got the notification that you had released this video. Surely it’s a sign. And I have a fat head. 😀
@Mojave5113 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, I think you might ask an accountant to help with the cost calculations. I love making my own prints of my work to my satisfaction. I don't really care what it costs, it is the results that I am interested in. Probably a carryover from when I printed all my own black & white in the chemical darkroom loving the process as well as the results.
@huszarpeter71085 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas! Great video, I like your channel very much! However I think your approach to compare the cost of home printing to printing lab ones is not entirely ‘apples to apples’. From economical point of view 1) a printer doesn’t get depreciated in one year (so definitely you will use it for several years, 3 years minimum but rather more) Therefore the yearly cost is 300 GBP (sorry, I cannot find the GBP symbol on my Hungarian keyboard); 2) with one set of ink cartridge you can print much more than just 30 sheets (let’s say 400 pages in average is not overestimated); the per page cost of a print is roughly 1.2 GBP (469 GBP / 400 = 1.2 GBP); 3) if you want to print 30 photos and a box contains only 25 sheets than you need to buy 2 boxes therefore you should have calculated with 2x123.5=247 GBP. But staying with 5 GBP per sheet the correct math would be 300/30 + 1.2 + 5 = 16.2 GBP per print roughly. This looks much more friendly than the 50 GBP that you calculated.
@ookiemand5 жыл бұрын
About the hat, I must say just wash it a bit warm and use it. If I were the maker I would be rather unhappy if you just gave it away. The print looks great and I must ask, how much ink and trial and error cost did you have setting up and tuning the printer and software? Also have you got trouble with clogged ink cartridges? - Lovely video, lovely images!
@johncallery8145 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Thomas. This is important info for folks. Printing at home is Expensive! As someone who started printing B&W in the late 1960s to be able to do color prints at home, this easy is a miracle. I agree you can get great results from a lab at a far lower cost. It comes down to how much of a perfectionist one is and consistency of prints. Having a high-quality Matte monitor (~$1200), and Spectrophotometer/monitor calibration (x-Rite I-1 Studio ~$350) really helps. For me, it was doing my own paper profiles with the X-Rite I-1 Studio that allowed me to nail my print colors.
@craigoneill45045 жыл бұрын
Your printing costs are a little skewed... your calculations assume you're paying for the printer in year 1. You'll probably keep the printer for 3 years, so that would be £300 per year for the printer, £469 for ink (probably too high for 30 prints) plus paper... that would be £30 per print on fine art paper, £6.50 cheaper than your print supplier ... Plus you get your prints immediately no postal damage etc... just saying is all. Plus... keep the hat and say sorry. ;-)
@martinbuttrick5 жыл бұрын
That’s not taking profits into consideration in the catering trade we would multiply the 30 x 3.5 to give us the selling price plus vat 😁
@markfectic48875 жыл бұрын
You are right Craig but i think he was more giving people an idea of costs if you went out now and purchased the printer gear and what it's going to set you back in the first year. He did mention the costs decrease over time and if you use it more.
@BubbleGendut5 жыл бұрын
Agree with Craig. The printer amortization needs to be considered. Makes it a lot cheaper than the Lab!
@Yannis_Larios5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Craig. That's the proper way to amortize the costs, not as a once-off cost. Not to mention the overall MUCH better control over printing and the timely production of the end product.
@christianpetersen17825 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas for a very interesting video. My experience of printing my own was that I’d print at least 3 prints before I got one just as I wanted it, so probably closer to 100 per year. The options for setting the printer seemed endless with terms I’d never heard of before. The printer would use lots of ink at startup before I even started printing. Jets would get clogged and require self-cleaning which used up yet more ink. I binned the printer at the recycling centre and now have prints done without the hassle and expense. I should add that I hadn’t travelled long journeys to take my photos so perhaps I wasn’t so emotionally attached to the prints. I’m happy to live without the frustration and high cost.
@wolffgang1014 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend is a photographer. She rarely printed her photos, but I was interested in editing and seeing the final photo. I've had a couple printers so far. To me, the photos printed out are beautiful
@critterstocosmos5 жыл бұрын
I used to think I was your biggest fan. And then someone goes and knits you a hat!!! They win... lol
@DOM_4GOOD5 жыл бұрын
yeah BUT, it dosen't fit him , so we may still have a chance ;)
@critterstocosmos5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't knit to save my life. I could send Thomas one of my used hats. Correction... previously enjoyed hat.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
The vid is about printing.
@photographingwithcarl87295 жыл бұрын
John Smith stfu
@sk8freshcst5 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 It's also about about a hat someone knitted for him. If you put the video on at 1:24 roughly you can see what I'm talking about.
@gypsycollective95174 жыл бұрын
This video to begin gave me buyers regret as I just bought a pro printer, my anxiety went through the roof! However I really can’t wait to go though the creative process from start to finish with total control. Thanks for the vid :)
@EasyFinnish5 жыл бұрын
I need that hat in Finland right NOW! It is freezing cold!
@romiemiller78762 жыл бұрын
The cost is inaccurate. The printer cost needs to be spread out over the life of the printer, not one year. And, for people who print a lot, such as portrait photographers, the cost of a print you make yourself is about 1/4 of a high quality print from a good lab. And what really makes me angry, some labs put Hahnemuhle and Canson papers in what the call "Gleclee" prints. and charge an extra $100 for a print. There is no reason for the extra price. Also, if one gets to be a very good printer, you'll make prints that are better than the ones you'd get from a lab. Finally, and perhaps most important, once you understand printing you'll be a better photographer. * I agree with you 100% on NOT buying 3rd party inks or pigments. Fortunately, I have an excellent local lab that will print large prints at reasonable prices.
@hyreemadz72815 жыл бұрын
It's my first to watch his video and stopped right away when he was giving away the hat! I feel bad for his fans who made that special for him.
@210caulfield5 жыл бұрын
Aside from being a twin of my nephew you have a very easy approach which I enjoyed. I had to laugh because I recently bought an expensive printer and just had to replace some cartridges so I could identify all the negatives associated with owning a printer. A new fan.
@UTAZCO.Overland5 жыл бұрын
To me, controlling the WHOLE process, from capture, through editing, to printing is worth the expense. I average about 60 prints sold per year (mostly my 'print of the month') sold at art shows. Hope I can switch some of that revenue to online...
@jamesoliver66255 жыл бұрын
Thomas, it's a lot like the difference between listening to a lo-rez MP3 of your favorite music (Shostakovich Symphonies in my case) or being front row at Proms when Dudamel and his young Venezuelans did the Shostakovich 10th (it's on KZbin). It's not the same experience and that experience in it's full flower is why I write music and take photographs. I'm an old man getting back into photography after being "out" for 40 years and it's been a while since I've heard my music live, but my career was as data cop , archive manager and page tech in a fairly large offset printing house here in Austin Texas. At that time we were high end and knew it and took pride in it, and whenever we had clients who were interested in the finest color separation and execution to print, it brought the whole department alive. Everyone was on their toes to bring it about. When we were sold, and quality was no longer an object, is was depressing but unfortunately, more profitable, but only financially, not experientially.
@AlbertoMesquita5 жыл бұрын
Dear Thomas, you're a great landscape photographer and a very nice person from what I can see, but doing cost calculations is something you have no clue how to do it. Hint: start by determining how many prints, on average, you can do with a set of cartridges... By the way, please look at all the other comments that strongly suggest you not to give away the hat, it's a bit offensive for the person who stitched it most certainly with so much affection... now, you'll have to compensate him/her wearing the hat for a whole video ;-)
@billsstudio25283 жыл бұрын
Getting back into photography. Just got R5 some decent RF lenses and P1000..My 7D is in the closet...but you never know! Like your prints man! Good taste and high quality.
@redauwg9115 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's very nice for someone to send you a gift and you give it away
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
The vid is about printing.
@redauwg9115 жыл бұрын
Manners always come first.
@sk8freshcst5 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 It's also about about a hat someone knitted for him. If you put the video on at 1:24 roughly you can see what I'm talking about.
@edstar834 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Artyomthewalrus4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. If it's an ill-fitting hat, it would likely end up unused in a drawer somewhere. It would be more respectful to ensure someone gets to enjoy the hat so the hard work the person who made it put into it doesn't get wasted.
@gerryphilpott97663 жыл бұрын
Oh jeez, saw this after getting my Canon Pro 300. Less expensive and lower ink costs, but same principle. I look at it as a way for me to control my process better as I have had to learn the print process for my tastes and not sending out to shops. I print more often as it's easy and I move things around and display them as my mood fits, and I've given a few out as gifts which people seemed to really like. Yes, they could swiftly swap granny's photo with mine when I visit and then swap them back, but hopefully not. Thanks again for a thorough and provocative approach to GAS.
@KeirTheDouche5 жыл бұрын
They made that hat for you, don't give it away
@KSXmedia5 жыл бұрын
Well this is awkward...
@JohnDrummondPhoto5 жыл бұрын
I have a bucket head and would love that hat. I'm the guy with the glasses & white goatee who chatted with you briefly after Day 1 of your Manassas, VA. presentations. Sorry you had no voice on day 2, but kudos for soldiering on.
@user-fza35 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video I enjoy it , but about the hat don't say if any body want take it as it dosnet mean any thing to you even if you don't like it just who make it for you he send it from his heart and he take atime to make it and send it for you, again thanks for the video
@christophergrove48763 жыл бұрын
Good Aft'noon, Thomas! As a large-format printing technician I can very much appreciate your very caring and professional work-flow. Loved your video as usual! Very cool soft-proofing monitor. ME? I have CRAP to work with here at work! ;-) I have two types of clients. I have "The Henry Ford Museum", here in Dearborn, Michigan AND I have the average small business who needs their luncheon specials printed on poster paper. NEITHER ONE requires Art quality that you are printing and so... I simply print small test prints (when needed at all) on the ROLL of material (paper or adhesive-backed vinyl) and when I'm happy with the tweaks, I then print the item full sized. I'd LOVE to have your studio lighting but... and I'm looking at my shop lights while laughing... I see at least THREE different fluorescent coloured light boxes in the ceiling!!! (and the picture window that lets the sun in) LOL I can NEVER FOR THE LIFE OF ME KNOW if the print is correct or not! LOL Things to note... the screen is RGB and the prints are either CMYK or "CMYKcm" (light M & light C) so one can never get a true representation on screen as to what will print... hense the constant small test prints. In printers there are solvent, aqueous, UV and Latex printers and of those there are "pigment" ink rather than dye ink... PIGMENT ink has much larger "grains" of pigment which are suspended and which will last MUCH longer than dye inks. Epson is famous for that TRUE "Giclée" quality print from their pigmented ink printers. (check 'em out!) I would LOVE to have a large-format Epson pigmented ink printer!!! Cool Stuff. LASTLY... check out printing on "Photo-TEX" removable adhesive wall fabric. Every year I print YEAR-AT-A-GLANCE calendars of some of my photos and people stick them on their wall for a year. VERY FUN Christmas gifts!!! Cheers, Thomas!!! :-)
@Skidoo225 жыл бұрын
Wow somebody made a hat and now its a giveaway. Thankyou to hatspace for.....
@2163mrjeff2 жыл бұрын
I got a cheap canon digital camera 15 yrs ago and I MASTERED that camera. I had the coolest pics on MySpace. Well 10 yrs later I got back in the game with a Sony a6000 and 5yrs later I got serious so i got a sony A7iii.. AND only a year ago did I start shooting in RAW and actually editing and color grading... Now, any time the family or in laws decide on a family portrait or need some photos, I'm the guy. At this point a printer is just the final piece to the puzzle.. I'm just an electrician by trade. But I've ALWAYS been an artist at heart. And it's time to bring all the art accumulated over the years into life!
@EugenioTrainer5 жыл бұрын
In the USA there is a way that you can buy that printer for $200 brand new. Great video!
@unknownKnownunknowns5 жыл бұрын
Eugenio hi how please?
@EugenioTrainer5 жыл бұрын
@@unknownKnownunknowns I you are student or if you have any student in your family, you can apply for the student ID in B&H, then a few times a year Canon and BH will send you an email offering you the printer for $500 and a rebate of $300 = $200 I did that and I am happy, I saw that offer twice las year.
@janlasalle8845 Жыл бұрын
Ive been thinking alot about how expensive it is to own a printer and print my own work. Its insanely expensive but I guess it is an emotional choice and I was brought up in the film days.Very few of my clients even want a print these anymore as they cant share it with thousands of people on Instagram . I print now mostly for an ongoing exhibition at a prominent studio and also for a new photo space Ive inherited ,,,As pricey as it is I think it is in some ways it separates me from the photographers who no longer do this and adds to my voice as an image maker. Thanks for your thoughtful insights. So far I havent been able to let go of this final process.
@davemenard50895 жыл бұрын
I was gonna knit you a hat. Now I don’t think I will.
@Deliquescentinsight4 жыл бұрын
Yeah,. what an ingrate!
@jord92614 жыл бұрын
That was a real slap in the face for the person who made it
@MTi-yl4oy3 жыл бұрын
@@jord9261 he says the person that made him the hat said. "if the hat doesn't fit. You can donate it"
@zalllon5 жыл бұрын
I got an Epson 3880 when it first came out, and it’s still going strong. F-ing initially expensive, but I enjoy it. I mainly print 11x14 on Epson Luster, and do all my test prints on 4x6 cut from 8.5x11 luster sheets.
@RandyPollock5 жыл бұрын
How to ruin a decent video about the pros and cons of printing (I'm a Pro 10 printing guy myself)...discuss how you are going to give away a knit hat that doesn't fit...comments explode.
@gregkiserphotography5 жыл бұрын
I went through that same inner argument when setting up my studio a few years back. Feeding a printer gets expensive for sure, but I happened to get enough rebates when I was buying equipment that I got my printer for $30.00 and figured it was worth having a Pro100 for that. I've been supremely impressed by it since buying it and can completely relate to your emotional connection with the prints that you make. While watching the video, I am here in the office looking at all of the framed prints that I have visualized, captured, edited, and printed with no outside influences. It is a special feeling, and one that connects me to the prints as much as the capture.
@hupenpeter5 жыл бұрын
Shrink the hat with a hot wash. Don't give it away. Honor the Donor!
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
The vid is about printing.
@hupenpeter5 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 without his opening this would be true. I really like him, but this is a bit unsensitive.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
@@hupenpeter - It's true no matter the opening.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
@@redauwg911 - How fucking stupid.
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
@@redauwg911 - Tsk tsk manners!
@BarwickGreen4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video which tells the truth about home printing. I also have the Canon Pro 1000 and whilst the quality of the prints is wonderful, the printer is not well made and I wouldn't recommend anyone gets this model. It should be possible to change the ink cartridges by pushing on them and they then pop out but after 3 years very light use this no longer happens - I have to get hold of the cartridges with a pair of long nosed pliers and pull. Apparently this is a common problem and repair isn't economical. A friend of mine who runs a photography studio also bought one and after just over a year it said the print head wasn't connected. They bought a new print head but it didn't fix the problem. Repair isn't economical. Given the cost of this printer, I think that's unacceptable.
@worldofrandometry69125 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, Hatgate!
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
Half of every crowd is below average intelligence by definition.
@mdimp14685 жыл бұрын
You’re leading the pack, a John Smith.
@jbilly245 жыл бұрын
John Smith are your nuts numb?
@willparsons322 жыл бұрын
Your "negative" points for printing your own prints is absolutely reasonable and makes good sense. The point I'd also make is that most consumer type "Walmart Brand" printers is that they're limited to a maximum size - usually 8.5 x 11 inches. A photograph printed at that size is hard to see from a reasonable distance unless one shines light upon it. Not something usually done unless it's hanging on a wall in an art gallery. I'd also like to reflect on what you mentioned about how many of the same photograph does one need to print - especially for their own viewing enjoyment? Regardless of how many beautiful compositions you have stored on the memory card, there's a limit for everything.
@Disco_Shrew5 жыл бұрын
Come on Thomas, giving away the hat? That's really unacceptable.
@a.keithclarke79754 жыл бұрын
Agreed, (publicly, no less) giving away a gift seems a bit ruthless!
@250157andyw3 жыл бұрын
Ah ha - that sparked lots of comment! Between 'hatgate' and the costing there are some 'issues'. My Epson R3000 A3+ printer lasted 10 years and I have replaced it with an Epson SC-P600 (also A3+) which I also expect to last many years. So let's get the costing improved a bit ... Printer £900 lasts at least 5 years so the annual cost is only £180 (talking of your accountant - they will 'depreciate' the asset over its useful life for costing purposes even if they write it off in the first year for tax purposes). New printers come with at least some ink, although they vary as to whether they are full tanks or not. Let's say you need a set of inks in year one but get some ink with the printer so you can print 50 photos with that ink volume. We are printing 50 photos so that's £250 for paper. So the annual costs for printing 50 sheets ... 180 + 450 +250 = 880 total divided by 50 = £17.60 per photo ... NOT £50!
@paulbarnard52675 жыл бұрын
Anyone else thinking Tom has a ‘ghost’ account called John Smith? It’s certainly a pseudonym common in the UK.
@reiddickson5 жыл бұрын
I would be very surprised if that was him. "John Smith" doesn't seem to communicate with nearly the same attitude.
@jacopotassinari3 жыл бұрын
A printer is not that great deal but still you can take a path from the camera to the printed paper and have full control on your work. But once you may desire to test film, just black and white, maybe! And then you will discover what is life in a darkroom. Color photography in the darkroom can really be a killer if you haven't any good help. ;) Nice video, cheers
@AndyGarton5 жыл бұрын
Probably a silly question, but could you cover the framing part at some point please? Do you cut the border from the print for example? If so, how?
@johnsmith14745 жыл бұрын
It's a great question. Cheapest I've seen is $125 or so to do-it-yourself frame an A2 print with Heaton level quality materials if you buy in bulk using a discount coupon at Hobby Lobby (USA craft chain) and assemble yourself using 2cd quality museum glass (the most expensive part). Double that or more if you give to a frame shop - for one print. Yes the framing costs more than the printing. Proper prints require much larger mats for a respectable border, larger frames, and glass. You do get a real thing, a fantastic object (presuming the image is important!) that will last many decades or more. You can go cheaper for run of the mill end product for casual use but that's not the game is here. Then, you need wall space ....
@larsthoren32825 жыл бұрын
Everytime you upload a video about printing I get excited!
@mauraseabrooke97685 жыл бұрын
I am a bit disappointed with you Thomas. Someone has gone to the trouble of knitting that hat for you and you just want to give it away. I don't think you realise the work that is involved. Tut Tut Tut!!!
@nickfanzo4 жыл бұрын
Maura Seabrooke young folks don’t have empathy
@paulwood67295 жыл бұрын
NOMA makes a very pertinent comment below regarding the cleaning cycles. My Canon Pro-10S will go through more than a complete set of inks in a year just by virtue of being switched on. It can't be avoided. Unplugging it triggers a full 480 hour cleaning cycle. It's an out-right con. I'm happy to take the risk of only using it infrequently and printing in bulk.
@garybraach1005 жыл бұрын
Acknowledge the gift, say thank you...wonderful moment! Announce it doesn't fit, going to give it away... Boo!
@adrianyup41975 жыл бұрын
I have a pixma pro100s and I love it. The experience printing my own images at home is so fulfilling. I feel like I am creating every aspect of my photo's. Everything is done by me and when people like the final image it makes it feel amazing knowing every little aspect from snap,edit to print was all my work. :D Also great video
@daykz695 жыл бұрын
The hat give away is a no no, a rethink is in order. I am torn on buying a quality printer over lab prints due to the cost etc. But having the ability to get it immediately to see the results is a tough one to get past. I will continue to ponder, in the meantime great vlog as ever.
@CostaMesaPhotography4 жыл бұрын
Another great video...covers a decision/alternative that many photographers look to cross at some point. It's true, and fair to point out that in addition to the practical/logistical and economic factors, emotional/satisfaction factors are equally valid to consider. It's with regard to the economic analysis that I wanted to comment. As an over-arching comment, it should by definition be cheaper for you to print your own work rather than use a lab simply because there is no profit/markup by a vendor. That of course would presume though that you have the volume/efficiency that a high production vendor would have. Still, considering the cost analysis you provided, a fairer way to look at the cost per print would be to spread the cost of the printer, and the cost of the ink across all prints that the device can produce without needing repair or replacement. So for example, you correctly cite that the 25-sheet box of paper results in a cost of 4.94 PP. Similarly though, the printer may be good for 1000? prints over it's lifetime...that would be 0.90 PP. And the ink might last for 100? prints, resulting in a cost per print of 4.69. So the actual total cost per print is 10.53, not 50... Again, the economics is just one of several factors in the overall decision matrix...I just wanted to put a different perspective on that aspect.
@batworker5 жыл бұрын
I hate printers. Rule one of network management - have 2 workstations and 2 printers you’ll spend 50% of your time on the printers...have 200 workstations and 2 printers you’ll still spend 50% of your time on the printers 😂😂😂
@RichFreeman5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, if I got a call from my wife while I was at work 4/5 times it was due to printer frustrations. I switched to a color laser and those headaches went way down, and we'd just order prints online. There is a reason the office buildings at my company don't have inkjet printers in them...
@cubanaenusa3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video! I have never printed my work and I really can’t wait, I imagine the pleasure of seeing your work on paper!
@ares58583 жыл бұрын
Go for it! Some images look completly different when printed :)
@H3ath5 жыл бұрын
Frame the hat please :D Love my pro 1000 cost me an arm and a leg but now my house is filled with prints :D :D :D
@scottmurphy6505 жыл бұрын
I have a Canon Canon PIXMA Pro9000 MARK II and love it. The Canon ink cartridges are very expensive, but I get superlative results with less expensive ones from LD Products.
@desgardner71695 жыл бұрын
Wow that bought a few home truths about the cost of printing to perfection, but I am sure you can afford that!....now about that hat, just let your hair grow thicker! You simply can't give a prezie away can you....I enjoyed your video, thanks for sharing....
@miscava5 жыл бұрын
Ahh, Mr. Hat-on (my sincerest apology for this stretch of a lame pun), but you're speaking from the professional point of view. As an amateur, while I love having some of my photos printed, I consider your approach a bit too advanced. I tend to agree with some of the voices over here - either a pro printing lab or a less sophisticated, yet still capable home inkjet printer for smaller prints (myself, I'm using one of the older Epsons, I think, L310). Thanks also for the quick overview of your workflow. Side note regarding knitting: this video length is about perfect to knit or crochet an end-to-end cat toy; a hat would take three to five more videos (depending on the yarn and technique). 10/10 would watch and crochet/knit again.
@jasonfazio61705 жыл бұрын
I bought a printer purely to control my product. I've learned a lot. Still in the negative, but learned a lot. Lol
@markfectic48875 жыл бұрын
What printer did you buy?
@jasonfazio61705 жыл бұрын
@@markfectic4887, I've got the Canon 100 and the 1000.
@rickdenbraber68695 жыл бұрын
The hat your choice keep it or give it away.Hats are a personal thing. Size look all that stuff. But wrong fit! I've lost some favourite hats and mourned their loss. It really relates to what you are talking about with the choices you have to make when you decide to print your own stuff and the pride in knowing you did it all yourself. It is what you do. The next step is to buy a wood shop and make your own frames $$$$$$$$$ and a few more because the Canadian $ is crap $$$$$$$$. Very interesting and informative. The picture is a great memory of where you were. And I learned from your video. Thanks a bunch.
@happycamper62605 жыл бұрын
You haven't added in the $489 for an XRite Studio 1 monitor/printer calibrator..
@pdp115 жыл бұрын
Happy Camper absolutely, you can't print without profiling.