Thompson Riot Ammo

[@runzombies]

"Disperse! In the name of the United Fruit Company!" That was a nice touch.

[@Objectorbit]

+manny022 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company#Banana_massacre it's a dark humor joke.

[@rogerwilco2]

+runzombies It was indeed. I know nothing about guns, so to me the history of the United Fruit Company is actually better known than that of this Thompson gun.

[@diasirea]

+runzombies I caught the dark, sarcastic humor immediately, although stating it in Spanish would have been more historically correct. Sadly, for many lacking 3 dimensional thinking, hoplophobes, and others, this will fly over their heads, with some attaching some nefarious motivations. It was a joke!

[@nicholek11]

+runzombies I'm afraid of the United Fruit Company now....

[@enaechei6306]

+runzombies My body is a temple!

[@yetanother9127]

"Apparently, I severely anti-rioted him, and he, uh, died."

[@lincoln668]

best part XD XD

[@tomkandy]

+Jonathan Hughes I'm imagining Chief Wiggum offering this defence to a grand jury.

[@panzermacher]

yeah... It reminded my of the stories dad used to tell me of "being interviewed about the head with a phone book" by the Police :/

[@omegagarry8192]

Cause of Death: Mild use of nonlethal force

[@NevadaGamingWedge]

I'm playing Planetside right now, what are the odds.

[@1978garfield]

I lost it at "Disperse! In the name of the United Fruit Company!" For some reason the next line in my head was "The power of Standard Oil compels you!"

[@ThZuao]

"You rapscalions better stop this nonsense and vacate US Steel's private property!"

[@marvindebot3264]

@@Dang_Near_Fed_Up More than one, there was also an incident out west in between a union and Pinkerton that involved a Gatling gun mounted in a rail car that killed more than a handful of striking rail workers when opened up on them.

[@kaedekurosawa]

"You never know when a riot might break out in your front yard" That aged like fiiiine wine.

[@Carolina_Luke]

Yeah, we just need now for them to remake this cartridge in 5.56 and 7.62x39. Perhaps even 5.45 too. I could see myself wanting to use this if they did.

[@beelow84]

kind of silly to make a shot shell for a rifle that most likely wont even cycle it. just get a shotgun for that fix. these however, are still made to this day, and in many other pistol calibers @@Carolina_Luke

[@bobsmalser8304]

The original reason the Army carried 12ga #9 shot cartridges in the inventory was for riot use, where the manuals specified firing them into the pavement in front of the rioters to pepper their legs with birdshot. The technique was taught well into the 1970's. These submachine gun cartridges were designed for the exact same purpose.

[@wclark3196]

@Inkasso Meddl Well that's what you get for picketing or protesting. Obey!

[@robertlamberth6586]

@Inkasso Meddl Unless someone was really really unlucky, they SHOULDN'T be killed by ricocheted #9 birdshot. Most of it would just sting like a motherf**ker, a few might break skin, but you'll probably survive. I'd be more worried about my eyes than anything else

[@pulaski1]

@@robertlamberth6586 And heavyweight jeans or overalls would significantly dampen the velocity of #9 birdshot.

[@santiagocastro6333]

"Hey boss, the people want to work for 8 hours" "God dammit........get the Thompsons"

[@henryluhrs8684]

😂

[@jediknight1294]

Hey boss the strikers are throwing molotov and shooting people who don't want to be part of their union.

[@ArmandKarlsen]

Disperse! In the name of the United Fruit Company!

[@siouxsettewerks]

+Dor Aran OK... So, there's no corruption in the USA, and it's armed populace protects it from beeing entirely taken over by corporations, funding both sides of the political chessboard, largely ignoring the wishes of the populace, force fed debilitating propaganda through tititainment... And that doesn't predate tititainment at all, after all, the so called "robber barons" got their name purely by accident!! I do believe a populace that's able to resist is a good thing, but come one, the USA is a place as corupt as any, if not more... The ability to do so is nothing without adequate information, the ability and willingness to organize beyond the individual or familial level, with decent opsec, and it's a last resort thing, having close knit social links, a rugged and resilient supplies of food and water, not for a few people, but for the vast majority, etc, are prerequisite conditions! The fact is,, even in so called developped countries, if our economical overlords cynisism towards us, the populace, turned from apathy to overt hostility, we would be fucked... Now, food is in the hands of a few corporations, water is mainly that thing that comes out the faucet, all our social relations are displayed for every agency to see, etc... IE if it turned from ugly to worse, from the choice between mindless work or poverty for the masses, to for example, a neo malthusian society who's elite thinks, that we're too numerous, and for the sake of themselves, and mother nature, ut would be so much better with far fewer people (not hard to see that coming) Attrition of the "surnumeraries", ie the poor that are replacable by higher efficiency processes, not manning the military/police, or replacable by drones, not actively producing food for the elite, or replacable by some automation, wouldn't sadly be that hard to do... Even if these madmen where quaint enough not to eradicate them manu militari, just turning off the supplies would do the trick, famine, anguish, chaos and violence, while standing from afar, watching the horror, and if need be, finishing the few survivors... In a way, such types of situations allready exists, in warzone that aren't popular in western media for geopolitical interests disguised as humanitarianism... Many of those warzones have an affluence of weaponry, shoddy or not... But the main weapon that would be in dire need would be knowledge, and understanding what's at hand! And that happens to societies that are fare more agrarian, and thus resiliant than ours... For example, take Biafra, in the 70's! US, British and French Petroleum interests couldn't get to a pleasing resolutiuon between them, in a place that was mostly peacefull, where ethnical divides where relatively calm, and lines rather blurred, some where animsts that where suposedly christian, but mostly animists, others where "sort of" muslims but mostly still animists, and all went well.. Oil companies and their governemental backers pumped in weaponry, and trumped up the tiny divides, up to full civil war, while our media, when it talked about it, played dumb as to why the fighting erupted, Now, 40 years later, we no longer fuinnel money, ammo, and weapons, it's stilla low intensity warzone, It came back to buisness as usual for the instigators, Shell, Total, etc, have reached agreements on how to cut the cake, the only worry they have is that the damn locals don't behave and try to steal oil, or take hostages, from time to time! Why? Strangely, they now have REAL reasons to hate each other and avenge the bloodshed, still 40 years later... in fact, way more than when that travesty started! Had they had the knowledge of what was planned against them, how they where about to be manoeuvered for political and economical goals, maybe they could have reacted apropriately, and driven off the envoys that came to sow discord, "hey, yes, we believe they stole great grampa's donkey, but fuck off and leave, we don't want any trouble with them anymore, it's settled, now go, we see what you want! Leave, or we pump you full of lead!" that could have worked, and they'de be happier, that coast wouldn't be destroyed by constant war and continual oil spills from crudely diverted pipelines, but it was far too easy to fuck them over. And that's if the war is waged covertly, at least it's starting... If, overnight, the people wanted more than a parody of democracy, be it it Latin America, or in the US, or elsewhere, with a political power firmly believing that it's their way, or the highway, even if everyone's disagreeing with them, if the army follows orders, how would the people fare against it? A well organized army, with it's communications, mobility, immense firepower, etc is something tremendous! Especially if it is fucked up enough to follow orders of maniacs that do not to care for a single soul! The only hope rests in having military personnel and police thinking in solidarity with it's people, instead of following totalitarian orders, but sadly, throughout history, times and times again, Enlisted or Conscripts fired upon their brothers to protect interersts far diffrent from their own! It usually is as easy as combining the learnt obedience from basic indoctrination and a wee bit of geography, pick a regiment from place X to supress events from elswhere.... Not to be pessimistic, but huge hegemons don't usually actually work pro bono, and the social structures of South America had little to do with how bright it light United Fruit's greedy eyes! Even places that have high education standards, high literacy, access to decent food and water can turn into shitholes pretty fast is a big bully, or two, toys with it enough! (For example, did you know how good Afghanistan ranked in the 60's, in healthcare, overall literacy and scholarization, girls scholarization, infrastructure, etc... It was the leader in those fields in the region, was a mostly secular society, that was on the verge of industrializing. It also was a society that traditionally valued military prowess, and was far from hoplophobic, look at the good that did to them, once the US and USSR decided to sacrifice them on the "cold" war's altar, to, to quote Brzezinsky, "give to the russians their Vietnam"! The responsability is well shared, the west recruited nutters to precisely do what the USSR wouldn't tolerate in that state, and what intelligence said would provoke the Afghan govt in demanding "aid" to the USSR Then financed and funnelled in more and more religious zealots/nutters, to "fight the soviets" that where drawn in precisely by the actions of these nutters! The USSR provided the niceties of a modern army going after a militia hiding amongst a civilian population that hadn't asked anything! The USSR got their vietnam, bravo Brzezinsky,, and look how that population, AND the rest of the world had to suffer for it! Then the tide reversed, it became the US and it's allies that provided the dose of airstrikes, ground assaults, etc, against the monster they helped form! Wars are most often fought on lies, the ability to resist armed action, with weapons if need be, is good, but there won't even be resistance if well enough crafted lies have been sown beforehand

[@siouxsettewerks]

***** Except, that's not what I say... It might be more conmfortable to reject criticism "en-bloc" and pretend it's hate for a country, where it's just one will derive if he looks at the past century's history, from a modicum of diverse viewpoints! By the way where do I say that the US is the sole problematic country? nowhere, you self centered brat! If it doesn't all turn to shit in the meantime, thinking that if someone is critical, amongst other things, of the United States Governemnt's actions is because said individual is "antiamerican", or a "red" or whatever, will hopefully appear as ridiculous in a hundred years or so as pretending the UK did the right thing during the Opium Wars,does to a Brit nowadays! (the X is a red excuse should allready appear ridiculous imho, now that the wall 'ss been torn down since quite a while!) What I do say is Corporatocracies and huge hegemons that feel the right to do whatever, no matter what their population or the rest of the world wants are the problem, currently the US are the Banksters Ace in the deck of cards, before, it was the British Empire, tomorrow, China, maybe! Plugging your ears and singing lalala won't change the fact that the same top tier banksters that fucked your granpa during the 30's crisis, and fucked either you or your relatives during the subprimes crisis will fuck you over, again if there's a buck to make, as they do anywhere else, and no "american exceptionalism" will protect you if your hometown becomes the next hotbed of corporate/police state fuckery. Read what Ret. Gen. Smedley Butler had to say about how he got used! Discard my opinion all you want, but before you do so, read what a Major General of the U.S.M.C. had to say of the wars he was ordered to fight! (by the way, he was a recimient of the Medal Of Honor, and not a guy that despised his country! (loving one's country isn't condoning everything that's done, even when it's utter outrage, silently swept under the rug, quite the opposite, I'd say!)

[@siouxsettewerks]

My oh my, Socialism and Communism seem to be your pet obsessions! You do know McCarthysm is a bit passé, right? Forget that you define them in a way the rest of the world doesn't concurr, in a way, Crony capitalism, to you, is socialism... The codependency of "big buisness" and might to defend it, even unfairly is quite an old affair, and has nothing to do with Socialism, it predates the concept! It has often gone hand in hand in enforcing unfair trades, prices or wages, For example, take The East India Company? It had it's own army! It needed it to undertake extreme and oftentimes unwelcomed buisness... That company was incorporated in 1600 Now, if socialism was theorized in the 17th and Elizabethan England was socialist, be my guest! Bit later, Dickensian England, how the poor got poor, not through state mesures, but because early industrialists prefered to invest their profits in India instead of keeping the production machine up to date in the 19th century, win win to them, high labor costs in the united kingdom dropped, and costs in India where laughable. The state then had to pick up the pieces and protect those that destroyed a society where wealth was relatively distributed among the commoners, and dug a huge gap between themselves, and factory workers... That wasn't because state tried implement socialism... That was because top tier financiers and industrialists laughed at what they did to the workers that did cost a pretty penny 30 years earlier, whilst the rest of the polite society was either gesticulating with charity, or blaming the poor for their situation through so called" Social Darwinism" Ife "if they're poor, it's because they're dumb, and biologically inferior" was an often printed line of thought, nevermind that all those "idiots" fathers weren't poor and lived quite well! Through massification of production, work that was high pay was now paying just above starvation... So market price fair price... on the paper it's nice, IRL, once an actor is big enough, it's easy to rig! Back to United Fruit Co. et al.. That was the text book definition of Crony Capitalism! If you really want to play Limbo to the point of having the head stuck in your arse, you could say "It's socialism for the rich, and tyranny for the poor" But you should note that both in the US and in south america, wealth redistribution through State was at an al time low! -> ie not socialism! I could just as well call what happened in USSR and Cuba "State Capitalism", as instead of responding to shareholders it answered only to the nomenklatura, wich wiped out and replaced the bourgeoisie, No worker had any more say in it... It's on the same level as your way to call everything and anything "socialism" it would be derisive isn't it? To have some more fun, you cite the medical system in Cuba, please, bear in mind that it had to function under an Embargo, for fifty and some years, and then go see W.H.O. data! See how it compares to other Health systems in the region, Compare to the situation of former US backed dictatorships, then and now, now that you pulled THE former USSR backed dictatorship out of your sleeve (without taking the slightest care to see if what you supposed was true!)! Life expectandy there? higest in the region, at UNDER an EMBARGO! Life expectancy at birth, In 2007, (World Bank data): Cuba, 78.26 years; World, 68.76 years; And for comparison: Latin America and Caribbean, 73.13 years; high income OECD countries, 79.66 years; United States, 77.99 years Infant mortality in Cuba, for the 2000 - 2005 period: 6.1 per 1000 in Cuba, and, for comparison, 6.8 per 1000 in the United States! I could go on and on all day with data! I guess that for example, The Lancet, The British Medical Journal, or the BBC, along with afformentionned international organizations are lying just to spite you, as do UN, the World Health Organisation, the World Bank and nearly all data! Fact is, you are liable to be better treated in CUBA under embargo, than say, in Columbia, or in Brazil, etc... If not of the wealthy minority, it sucked, and still sucks, if "indio" in some places of central and south america, you won't ever see an hospital! As fucked up as it is, It's still best to be ill in Cuba, than in a Rio slum, but worse still, you've got a better life expectancy in Cuba than in some places of the great US of A!... Not saying that life's great there, but when you pick up examples, test their validity! Now, Quote me where I recommand a communist system? YOU CAN'T What I say, IS, pure laissez faire capitalism, on paper, paradisiac, to you, at least, nearly ALLWAYS result in Crony Capitalism, to you known as "socialism" No mistery there, who has the means to fund political campaigns and lobby accordingly, on both sides? (usually not the working poor, nor mom and pops store owners, craftsmen, small buisnesses and the rest of the middle class!) You don't obey to people that cash in several hundred bucks to your campaign, but to people that cash in millions? You bet! What happens when these wealthy contributors fund both sides, and are mass media owners? Cosmetic and artificial divides, plus tittytainment drivel to keep the people occupyed, while the legislative process is utterly rigged in favor of those wealthy contributors!

[@siouxsettewerks]

Looking at data from the world health organization, not Mother Jones, or whatever, makes me an apologist? Pull your head out of your Arse! What I'd' concede to your doctor friend is, he'll probably make more money elsewhere, but are we looking at health, or at professional statute? Refute the data! (if you can) by the way, look at what the rest of the world had to say of the US embargo strengthening of the nineties, especially on Health... Despite that, the life expectancy there is what it is (better than in some parts of the States (or, than in Glasgow, Scotland, so that you see I don't have beef with the US per se, but with aritificial poverty, poor education and the like) By the way, your beef with Cuba, as 'murricans is a bit laughable to the rest of the world, I'm based in France, To troll a bit, I'l just say Boohoo, the mafia lost it's casinos in the fifties, and since then, their US congressmen friends can't sleep till that travesty is corrected! Now, as a point of comparison on purely South American medical situation. I'll tell you that, while your doctor friend had gone to the US to more freshly painted clinics and way better pay, Things I can sort of relate to, a good friend of mine is the son of a Colombian physician, why is he in France you might ask? You might think for the pay too, you'd be wrong, mainly because he met a French Wife, while he had to FLEE Columbia, because armed thugs, under the protection of the US backed government, firebombed his practice, not onece, but thrice over the years, and began to be more insistant, to teach him not to treat the Indians! So yeah, in a place there's healthcare for anyone, but the Doctors only get paid 1,5 time the (low) median salary, boohoo In the Other, there's enough racist fucks in the institutions to cover up for thugs that want the peons, poor, hardly paid, AND DEPRIVED of ANY healthcare, and are ready to consistently use violence to further those goals in some places... That's not Mother fucking Jones that told me that, that's life, confronting reality, and searching for data before going for gut feelings! I'm not defending the political system there, I'm just stating facts, on the health situation, It sucks waaaaaaaay less to be cuban than say, Haitian. Or way less to be Swedish, instead of Kurd... It's data that comes from all the relevant, non partisan institutions, the UN (through many of its arms, World Health Organisation, the UNDP,) Add to that data from the World Bank, The IMF, British Medical Association, the Medical Press at large, You can even read info from the CIA world fact book if you like! For medical data, read page 2 and 3 of the Cuban chapter from the most current PDF edition! If they are "Castro Apologists", who the hell isn't! Now, if in this you see rampant communism in that, Learn to READ, you fail at analysis and logic, that's a bit sad, not final though, just try harder! I don't feel this Channel is exactly the place for such a silly discussion between the parody of a conservative that you are, seing everything that isn't himself as a "red" according to a thought grid that was propagandized in the fifties! It's a place ripe with interesting videos, technical curiosities and rarities, and the occasional dark humor, too bad you do think The United Fruit Co. was either Justified to open fire on a disarmed populace, as some seem to do, (yet, they might be trolling), or was "enabled by socialism" wich was inexistant both in the home state of that Company, the USA, and the countries it operated in! Drown in your own bile, or have a nice day, it's your choice to make, I won't loose any sleep on your lunacy, it's not only the "leftist" media you despise wich by the way I don't regularly read, I mostly don't read the american press as a whole... In the meantime, go take a hike, breathe, watch how the nature still looks nice in some places!

[@nilsholgerson4958]

+Matan Pulverman Wtf are you talking about? Read this so you get your facts right next time. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

[@LinkCanBackflipYAY]

KZbin has some sick humor

[@tiredenough7739]

Glad im not the only one!! lmfao

[@Rustam7899]

This cant be done with consciousness, this is too messed up... there must be some sort of problem with the system

[@Sadreath]

@@Rustam7899 I mean ... people are looking for riot related stuff and this video has it in its title. Do the math

[@OscarPerez-og7kt]

sYn the expert on the algorithm here

[@Thunderage03]

Tryin to help people out

[@randompanda876]

Disperse in the name of the united fruit company needs to be a t shirt

[@flipdart]

possibly with bloodstains on it.

[@depotshredder6938]

Impossibear It’s an actual event though

[@TheRedKing247]

And it needs to be a minimalist version of Ian with a pair of sunglasses pointing a Thompson into the air casually.

[@ThZuao]

I picture a few Fedora wearing Pinkertons pointing their drum mag Thommy guns towards the reader.

[@kylecho2912]

5:28, "Apparently I severely anti-rioted this guy and he died" OMG dude you made my day...

[@dr.smouse8243]

I hope I never get severely anti-rioted.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

Easy, don't riot.

[@mistercohaagen]

Yeah, don't riot... even if your children are starving and your wife has cancer. Target specific people covertly, and be more effective at intimidation than yet another rioter? Maybe? Just a thought.

[@kayamorris3144]

I’ve been tear gassed it’s not fun

[@korn6657]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj homeless straving on the street? Don't.

[@JazenValencia]

Don't burn buildings, hurt strangers you don't know and destroy property. It's pretty easy actually.

[@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906]

In the name of the United Fruit Company lmfao Imm dying

[@termitreter6545]

As did people that got shot with those guns^^'

[@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh]

today it is called Chiquita - look up USMC MAJOR Smedley war is a racket

[@rolltideroll8458]

@@termitreter6545 ooof

[@007nikster2]

Nothing is more enjoyable than clicking on a Forgotten Weapons video and actually seeing him shoot a gun!

[@boise300]

This video aged incredibly well.

[@sectphiro607]

Indeed!

[@citizenfoffie7605]

Especially when only 7% of these have turned violent, meanwhile in france... Also this was made to kill Striking workers.

[@girhen]

Yep, another gun professional who aims at the target, not the ground. Alright, let's be fair. His videos are great and really informational, and I don't expect that he's actually been "trained" in anti-riot weaponry as a professional cop. Just saying..."40mm rubber slug - apply directly to the forehead" seems to be a 2020 thing by our "professionals".

[@TimperialBroadcastingAgency]

@@girhen Given anti-riot operations in the States, aiming full on the target is indeed how anti-riot weapons are operationally used. No matter how they are _intended_ to be used.

[@girhen]

@@TimperialBroadcastingAgency "That's how we do it, because screw how they're supposed to work." What next, firing 5.56 in .223 because that's what someone decided to do against the manufacturer's design? After all, it's just how they're operationally used, regardless of how they're intended to be used.

[@paczilla420]

"im gonna shoot this wobbly here" Gotta love the historical accuracy, and the, um, actual accuracy.

[@downunderrob]

Thompson's and tripod mounted belt fed Machine Guns for protesting workers. Oh yeah....that's really good Labour Relations.

[@MadOgre]

Ford Machine-Gunned quite a few workers during a protest. Things Ford wishes we would all forget.

[@HidingAllTheWay]

+CaptainLumpyDog I think he was sarcastic, though you can never be sure, Poe's Law and all that.

[@MadOgre]

Ford Motor - Corporate Research Project www.corp-research.org/ford-motor In May 2001 the tire maker said it would stop selling tires to Ford, accusing it of using the tire issue to ... The company wanted to be sure that workers were not spending their share of Ford profits in a ... In 1932 a protest march to the company's Rouge plant was met with tear gas and machine-gun fire that killed four people.

[@Morrigi192]

+One Doomed Spacemarine It wasn't about their views, it was about their actions. Also, Communism is the most destructive ideology on the face of the earth. If anyone deserves to be shot over their beliefs, it's the reds.

[@MadOgre]

That's not what I'm saying... no.

[@plainlake]

+searchandscan Oh. well if they had a different political opinion, then killing them is A-ok.

[@pawlo411]

"I suppose you never know when riot may break out on your own front yard..." Im watching this in june 2020 and its not a joke anymore.

[@sidewaysrain7609]

CCI has been manufacturing 45 ACP snake shot rounds for decades: -1100 fps velocity -#9 shot for decades. They also produce 22 LR. I'm certain they make it in all popular pistol cartridge calibers as well.

[@Snandra66]

Damnit, did you have to anti-riot him that hard?!

[@zedex1226]

It was a life or death situation. That rioter wanted children under age 12 barred from mining and steel mill work. HAD to stop em.

[@phant0]

Nobody messes with the United Fruit Company

[@frapippo420]

Just ask Guatemala.

[@yeezet4592]

I feel like I read a short story based on that

[@michaelc.4321]

I thought the box said riot partridges so I had the thought of police throwing birds at rioters " stop resisting!"

[@todmccreary7806]

Just like rubber chickens, but more "tacticool!"

[@mattl4401]

Womp womp

[@Kerithanos]

Riot partridges? Is that what they mean by "bird shot"?

[@tanall5959]

3:57 Incidentally, that is also the proper way of using rubber shot rounds and rubber bullets. The usage of such in riots lead to the practice being referred to as 'reading the riot act'.

[@Seth9809]

Why?

[@tanall5959]

You bounce them off the ground to reduce the kinetic energy, while also lowering the point of impact. Riot rounds are still full-power rounds and quite lethal when fired directly at a target.

[@Seth9809]

Tanall I meant the expression used at the end of the comment, why is it used?

[@tanall5959]

The original Riot Act, in the UK, required that it be read aloud to the crowd both to indicate LEO's authorization to enforce it, and as a warning to the crowd. If the crowd did not disperse, force could then be used. US riot laws do not need to be read out loud to be enforced, so someone at some point likely associated the sweeping of riot rounds across the ground as our equivalent 'warning' for the crowd to disperse or get a bunch of rubber shot to the shins.

[@Sshooter444]

Tanall under California law a crowd must be given notice before force can be used

[@rileybrock9340]

Funny time to get this in my recommendations..........

[@zackrentz8228]

That needs to be added to the lingo "severely anti-rioted"

[@freddyfagerstrm8561]

Zack Rentz we already have that in norway. its called being shitfaced.

[@nolefloyd2263]

People always ask me, what am I always listening to when I jog? Well, it's actually a five hr recording of Ian pronouncing the word "cartridges" on loop. Now you know my secret.

[@loucummins7918]

The name 'Riot ammo' really has a sinister ring to it. What do they call it now-a-days "less-lethal" ammunition. Gotta love those marketing folks. Great video.

[@tillmannfischer]

+Lou Cummins Not much different with the 40mm dummy grenades (in Germany, some state polices "use"/have the HK69 grenade pistol with "anti-riot grenades"). They are basically a normal 40x46mm grenade with a rubber top instead of an actual grenade. They are meant to be fired into crowds blindly to knock some people out and disperse the crowd. Turns out that actually hitting someone with that directly is pretty much deadly...

[@Gakulon]

+Mirdarion Don't forget they would also use tear gas and rubber bullets, which went at about the same speed as regular ammo, to disperse the crowds as well.

[@depotshredder6938]

lastswordfighter none Well, it’s not supposed to kill you. That doesn’t mean it won’t.

[@1988dgs]

This is recommended during the minneapolis 2020 unrest (I am in the UK)...

[@Gussyboy06]

Would recommend (also in the UK)

[@jamessunderland8370]

Nobody cares about your opinion, bloke.

[@Gussyboy06]

@@jamessunderland8370 i'm sure the Minneapolis police would care, it might give them more options instead of killing innocent people

[@-Wattson-]

Same

[@zillabro1]

Perfect timing

[@andybub45]

Riots in 2020: happen KZbin: "I have a perfect video to reccomend"

[@mrsaturdaynightspecial3055]

There also was a buck-n-ball load made for .45 ACP, and .38 ACP machine guns back in the day. The buck-n-ball load actually cycled the guns action.

[@gaoxiaen1]

Interesting. I knew a few old labor activist steelworkers at J&L Aliquippa Works who told me about Pinkertons and the the Cossacks ( the Coal and Iron Police, who eventually became the Pennsylvania State Police) using Thompsons on the streets of Ambridge (American Bridge, obviously a company town), Pennsylvania. Incidentally, Ambridge once had the highest per capita number of bars in the USA. Coincidence?

[@WildBillCox13]

Henry Frick was ordered by Carnegie to evict striking workers/vandals from his premises in Homestead. He engaged the Pinkertons to the purpose and death by ballistics ensued. Strikers, union organizers . . . these were systematically Blacklisted and prevented from working forever after. Men who agitated for better worker conditions in the mines, in the steel and paper and textile mills, and in packing plants, were beaten in the streets by gangs hired by company owners; It was an age of small minds with large appetites. Not like today . . .

[@servicerifle16]

I wonder how this compares to modern .45 ACP rat-shot.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

+Kennard Lang Pretty much identical, I expect.

[@anonym3017]

+Forgotten Weapons uhm anti riot rounds shouldn't kill but hurt and make it possyble to identify the üerson getting shot by the wound.

[@TheSpookiestSkeleton]

+Ano Nym well that's why we now call it less lethal

[@Pauliminator]

german detected, that typo tho

[@nunyabizness199]

Kennard Lang, Especially that new #4 rat-shot by CCI

[@hernanvaller6210]

Hell of a recommendation KZbin

[@johnroach8508]

“if a riot shows up in your front yard, you can have everything you need here at the auction house”. I love how when this video was made, it was just a joke.

[@bigb5681]

aaah this is what we call foreshadowing

[@michaelsaine]

"You never know when youll have a riot in your frount yard" 2020: write that down, write that down

[@mikei8547]

Rustless didn't start appearing on Peters Ammunition until about 1930, maybe a bit earlier, with the development of commercial non-corrosive primers. In the 1926 Peters catalog, however, the Thompson .45 Riot Ammunition was assigned the telegraph ordering code "THUG". That's hysterical!

[@sergeantbigmac]

'I Severely Anti-Rioted him' One of the best euphemisms for killing someone ive ever heard. Somebody should make that into a T-Shirt, or a gif or wallpaper or something. Hilarious.

[@DawsonFord]

lol, who else got recommended this now!

[@KG-id3uo]

Dawson Ford I dif

[@Thunderage03]

Yeet

[@flyingisaac2186]

Me

[@ghd5478]

Me

[@kaleblankford1373]

Yeahhh....

[@TheDrjsnyder]

Funny how this video popped up on my feed during these crazy times

[@MrBoringcabbage]

Anyone else getting this recommended to them during the current protests?

[@jfakoggl]

Me just today. 'BLM' stuff still going on

[@kevincai5491]

Henry Staggs get the real stuff.

[@charliebrown1134]

Goddamn KZbin has some sick humor

[@henryrodgers7386]

He just posted a video of a Smith & Wesson tear-gas launcher. Which amuses me greatly.

[@juanzulu1318]

Riots and plundering in Stuttgart, Germany on Saturday. On monday I get this vid to watch. Where is my tin hat...

[@KainzMusic]

"...and he died, so we'll fix that..." Calling Dr. Frankenstein..? :D

[@nathanmaddock1703]

Ian, this is a fine example of your work. You give a thorough examination and demonstration, with some good humor to keep it fun.

[@Sean_Coyne]

Firing a Thompson just never gets old...I guess you could say it's always a riot. OK, that was pretty bad...sorry. ;-)

[@citizen20twenty44]

Thanks so much for the videos. This is the smartest firearms channel on KZbin. Keep up the great work.

[@Slaxbox]

Heh. Super sneaky unlisted videos. Saw a few things on the auction listings which made me think "man, I wish Forgotten Weapons would do a thing on this" and then POOF! There it was.

[@extrastuff9463]

+Slaxbox Same way I got to this video, I wonder if that was done due to the mistake pointed out in the annotation? I would like to see them being tried the intended method.

[@senorm4363]

*“You never know when a riot may break out in your own front yard”*

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

This video seems very relevant today

[@DerekIcelord]

"Never know when a riot might break out on your front lawn..." Unintended prognostication.

[@maxjaymurphy]

Nice IWW (wobbly) reference. If anyone wants to see what Ian was talking about with the the labor relations thing, look up the Ludlow Massacre.

[@USMCRATTINER]

The old Peters Cartridge Company factory is right down the street from where I live, I drive by it all the time!

[@EthanMerbaum]

United fruit company just murdered some dude

[@huskypro1]

They actually still to this day hire death squads in central america to drive around and gun people down

[@WildBillCox13]

It was a two class society back then, where the rich did what they wanted and the rest of us lumped it. Not like today . . . wait . . .

[@m3n4lyf]

*defended their intellectual property from some dude.

The United Fruit Company, was instrumental in compelling the CIA to help in the overthrow of Jacobo Arbenz, the first Democratically elected, albeit left-leaning, President of Guatemala in 1954.

[@jseden]

“The UFC does not endorse the actions of the UFC riot police” The associates actions are being investigated internally.. our prof... people.. are our top priority and most valuable assets

[@andreassjoberg3145]

Thanks for being a live museum online.

[@ZaxhSO]

This aged well...

[@bigfart6563]

We need these now

[@bigduck7682]

Technically all rounds work as riot control

[@mopar_dude9227]

A see a resurgence of this ammo. And the way that Ian shot it is the way it SHOULD be shot today.

[@Makkara68]

Suddenly this gets recommended to me during the riots

[@shaq6976]

Thats why I fucking love this channel, I would never heard of this if it weren’t for you Ian

[@traog]

An early form of trickle down economics.

[@drakadog6041]

true

[@Ducaso]

True.

[@marvm.8079]

3:38 how the handy "bing" sound fits perfect for showing another shell :D

[@ibpn4284]

after watching this CEO's all across the nation are pining for the good old days of absolute corporate power.

[@ibpn4284]

*****.... idk, the cops seem to be out of control and getting away with it.

+Ibpn you better believe it. they ain't just "pining" either. i believe they are actively trying to bring back those "good old days".

[@ibpn4284]

Dana Herron.. I think so too, sadly they seem to be succeeding.

[@ibpn4284]

*****.... every ballot should have a "none of the above" box.

Ibpn i would prefer a "vote of no confidence" box.

[@sheriff0017]

Love that Anti-Riot Ammo in the iconic Thompson Straight-Pull Bolt Action Rifle.

[@Chris-id8qv]

2015: "I think they had a harsh definition of anti-riot at the time" 2020: "Hold my baton..."

[@jacobp.2024]

Oh I'm sorry, let me get the shotgun Thompson for you.

[@nelioanderson5315]

I watch this channel more for the history than the guns. Though some unique ones are shown. Great show. You are very knowledgeable. Great work. 👍

[@yeezet4592]

Same here The jokes can be good too

[@Blathilzar]

thanks Ian, another great video! thanks to your in depth looks at guns I now understand how a bolt works! I just have one problem, I really don't know a lot about guns. I enjoy their technical aspects, but I find I often get confused by some of the terms you use. I was just wondering if you'd be able to do some videos for people like myself, teaching us some of the basics and the terms we might need to understand (my most recent problem was 'belt revolver'). otherwise I just wanted to say I enjoy these videos a bunch, and thanks for the work you do.

[@mikellwehrer]

+Blathilzar As someone who's pretty fluent in 'gun' I would also appreciate this!

[@Nixonitus]

+Blathilzar I've been around guns my whole life and I still run into terms I've never heard. Fortunately, I can google them mid video, if I can't get it from context. That said, though, I would definitely like a video like this! Sounds interesting.

[@Davidautofull]

+Blathilzar the belt revolver goes into the belt or a holster on the belt and the pocket version goes into the pocket.

[@Blathilzar]

+Davidautofull thanks man, I was wondering if that's all it was. or if it was a kind of pistol specifically ment to be fired from the hip

[@ayebraine]

+Blathilzar The presenter, Ian, got those words into his head by reading books =) So you can do the same. There are a lot of starter books on firearms function, often in the form of illustrated popular encyclopedias. Although they often contain some nonsense (popular firearms publications sure as hell aren't peer reviewed), you can get the basic vocabulary in less than a week. Oh, what am I saying, Wikipedia more or less got you covered (although not all articles answer the beginner's frequent questions - for example, one on shotguns is a very short one).

[@SuperMarshall2009]

Another great video Ian. A little humor is well taken and I think it was evident that not all use by companies was done out of kindness for security. If you want an X-ray image of the cartridge performed, bounce me a reply its non-destructive.

[@Lockbar]

good for keeping the kids in line

[@Cheeky-rq2bx]

Every time you say come back here I get super happy

[@RSBDeprecated]

"I suppose you never know when riot will break out in your own front yard", No kidding bud

[@davidbunner6708]

Late June 2020; kinda gives this a whole new flavor

[@trainknut]

Nothing says "Keeping the peace" like 725 rounds per minute.

[@Tyrannosaurus54]

I asked for forgotten ammo and Ian delivers. You are the best.

[@tobiathon80]

These would be perfect now.

[@tb5884]

Bring it back we need it

[@-Flea]

Got this recommended just as the BLM riot kicks off

[@Unkownuser5546]

Same

[@jfakoggl]

Me just today. 'BLM' stuff still going on

[@among-us-99999]

And ironically the cops are now are making the same mistake with their rubber bullets.

[@Thunderage03]

@@among-us-99999 Its not a mistake its an un fortunate thing about rubber ammunition that it could be slightly lethal

[@tracehorrocks2473]

@@Thunderage03 you are not supposed to shoot them directly at people from a close range

[@Omnihil777]

3:38 "...it's pretty much the same practical thing *BING* as the riot cartridge " - got to love those sound effects

[@lukehui4221]

Ah yes. KZbin recommending me videos of riot ammo in the time of 2020.

[@hotpocketsfan]

good video for current events

[@hoeruokamix]

I'd really like to see the ammunition fired in the appropriate way, if you have any more of that ammunition.

[@BabyCola]

Your channel is my favorite channel for learning just simple great gun facts! You're awesome bro.

[@germaxicus6670]

Ian: "I suppose you never know when a riot may break out on your front yard" Shit's all to real in 2020

[@Davidautofull]

wow, the wood furniture on that Thompson is terrific.

[@MrHws5mp]

It were the '20s: we had REAL rioters then lad, not your soft modern rioters....

[@Nukle0n]

+Harold Weaver Smith In the 1920's they'd just fill rioters with lead and then go around strongarming every single newspaper threatening to forcefeed them printer's ink if they printed a word about it.

[@diktatoralexander88]

You're saying 45 ACP was weak back then? It was just as effective as it is today.

[@MrHws5mp]

Diktator Alexander It's possible we're not being entirely serious... ;-)

[@diktatoralexander88]

" Not these things we got running around today, and not these men.. These aren't men either. " - Alex Jones

[@bilibiliism]

Nukleon or in North Korea and China in 21th century

[@keeganowens8949]

4:45 Everyone in 2020: Well, glad I listened to him back in 2015!

[@Default012]

KZbin algorithm got jokes recommending this to me during this time 🤣

[@worldwarwill1278]

I’m guessing that this video has become VERY popular all of a sudden.

[@johnyonghwang6112]

"We are not killing we are just decreasing life expectancy

[@ronbertrand9181]

If it had enough power to cycle the action, it would make an amazing duck gun.

[@brogandoesthearmy5311]

Perfect timing

[@kagendranusantara]

Finnaly,the perfect ammo to shut my neighbor

[@framusburns-hagstromiii808]

"You never know when a riot might break out in your front yard" how prophetic of him! Welcome to 2020....now say hello to my little friend...😁😁

[@kenibnanak5554]

Reference your notation, back in the stone age when I worked at Brinks we were taught the same bounce the shotgun blast off the pavement to bring someone down. Supposedly that also worked well on bad guys taking cover behind cars. You aimed at the ground under the car and took out their ankles when the buckshot spray bounced.

[@steakwilliams4448]

I like how people appreciate your slightly sarcastic humor in other videos, but somehow this video is "OVA ZE LIEN!!!! YOU VIL ONLY MAKE ZE DEZIGNATED JOKE!!". If anyone couldn't tell, he means no disrespect

[@alflyover4413]

I believe RCBS used to make a set of dies for reloading the M15 shot cartridges for the M1911 pistol. Since it was introduced in the heyday of surplus 308 and 30-'06 ammo, it was designed to remanufacture those two cartridges. The 308 was preferred, because the extractor groove was a better fit for the 45 ACP extractor. I recently looked for the die set, and found out it is not available as new production any longer.

[@codygoold8877]

Imagine if they still had these.

[@Wr1te_Err0r]

This aged well

[@hanktorrance6855]

Bouncing shot is what's taught in police academy shotgun training, useful for someone hiding behind a vehicle, bounce the shot under the vehicle and take out their legs

[@movieman64992]

Love that KZbin recommended this to me just now

[@josecarbajal5028]

"Disperse! In the name of the United Fruit Company!!"-Gun Jesus