THOR: THE DARK WORLD (2013) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary | LOKI REALLY?!

[@robertsanssouci2093]

“Asgard is always stealing” This keeps in line with Norse mythology

[@rogerroger5171]

Also if you watch any Viking movie with a funeral scene, sending the "king" out on a burning ship is what they do.....and yes, I would ask you how to find something in NY, you look very friendly and trustworthy.

[@WhiteWolfDarkpaw]

Like when they wanted a very large kettle to make mead in, so they killed the giant that owned it, and the giants wife, then changed their mind about the kettle and just left.

[@ChirumboloFilm]

Loki isn’t shape shifting, he’s very good at illusion. He learned it from his mother.

[@pr3sidentspence]

Not wrong, but he can also conjure physical items like clothing, armor, and (I think) simple weapons.

[@TephulioTX]

@@pr3sidentspence Pretty sure illusion hides them, it doesn't make them. I hope

[@pr3sidentspence]

@@TephulioTX it’s discussed in later stories which I won’t go into for spoilers. But he definitely conjures a blanket once. Only simple things, non-mechanical, non-technological. And his powers vary/evolve quite a bit through his run.

[@gonzo6489]

The subtle "Ta-da" from Loki as they make it through his shortcut is low key my favorite part of the movie

[@rbrainsop1]

Same. Makes me chuckle every time!

[@Insaneian]

"Low key" 😂 Loki

[@inspectre27]

​@@InsaneianA certain book makes that connection as well.

[@TallBob1962]

When she said, 'I'm not worried, these movies always work out', I was thinking, oh sweet child, cherish it while you can.

[@zbennalley]

My favorite subtle thing is that the henchmen freed every imprisoned person except Loki because he's too untrustworthy and unpredictable even to the villains.

[@3Rayfire]

Which is insane since not only Loki, but even Odin wasn't born the last time they were awake, so they'd have no context or intel on Loki Laufeyson. Ragnarok Cycle exempted.

[@Sollidottingen]

The "real" Loke from the sagas literally turned himself into a mare, boned a stallion and gave birth to odins eight legged horse Sleipnir. He just does stuff for shits and giggles.

[@orbislame]

“Little bit of jokes in Thor. Just a little bit.” Taika Waititi is gonna go all Pimp My Ride on you. “I heard you like jokes in Thor, so we put jokes everywhere so you get jokes while you Thor.”

[@jdub5869]

I can’t wait for the next two movies. Your mind is going to be blown! 🤯 Guardians of the Galaxy 1 is my personal favorite MCU movie!

[@Klaital1]

I am more looking for her watching Winter Soldier.

[@jefferybaird4845]

The kiss at the end was not Natalie Portman. She was not available for this shot so Chris Harmsworth kissed is actual wife.

[@little-wytch]

It's not that there are 5 stones total, it's that there are 5 more to go for a total of 6.

[@christopherb501]

_Kind_ of an odd detail to flub.

[@duanetelesha]

Typical Viking funeral for Thor's mom. love the commentay and reaction. Loki suprise ending!

[@scoobydoo229]

The Frost Giants couldn't shapeshift or use magic. Freida taught Loki.

[@kebernet]

As a little homage to Empire Strikes Back, every Marvel Phase 2 movie has a hand get cut off.

[@3DJapan]

Every Star Wars movie has hands getting cut off.

[@gonzo6489]

Regarding the hand cutting; every movie in Phase 2 features a character getting its hard cut off as a nod to Luke getting his cut off in Empire Strikes Back, the 2nd Star Wars

[@parinthianquattropani9071]

Some like it Hoth

[@samuelshingleton3869]

I would not worry too much you are going to absolutely love Thor Ragnarok

[@ChrisReise]

34:22 "1 down...5 to go" means there are SIX infinity stones.

[@zbennalley]

"My old man had a philosophy: peace means having a bigger stick than the other guy. Tony stark

[@3DJapan]

17:28 I don't know if it's in the comics but this is how vikings had funerals.

[@3Rayfire]

Frigga was a witch and the most powerful magic user in Asgard. Thor inherited Odin's incredible power, so that Loki would have his own skills, abilities, and use Frigga taught him her magic.

[@monovision566]

It’s interesting because this movie-despite how many people don’t like it-remains huge in the Infinity Saga in general as well as to Thor’s character. A lot of people don’t love it, but boy does it make good material to revisit later in the series.

[@3DJapan]

The cop from Bridemaids is from the hilarious sitcom The IT Crowd.

[@MikeTaffet]

A fire….at a sea parks…?

[@johnmavroudis2054]

The next THOR is next level... You will LOVE IT. The one after that is FUN... you will LOVE IT. You've seen the "meh" ones... just wait. I'm giddy waiting for the next two... Cheers!

[@CorrectFossa]

Ngl this is most people’s least favorite Marvel movie, but the Loki stuff still sings

[@alexgonzalez-fn9jb]

Captain Marvel makes this movie look like an Oscar Winner

[@CrowTRobot]

@@alexgonzalez-fn9jb Captain Marvel is nowhere near as bad as the angry incels peddling bizarre made up stories about the actress make it out to be. It’s just formulaic and safe.

[@johncampbell756]

​@alexgonzalez-fn9jb I like this and Captain Marvel. Love and Thunder was awful. The Eternals was a giant boring plothole. The Dr. Strange and Ant-Man recrnt films are also worse than either.

[@damian01061973]

​@johncampbell756 Agreed. I believe Eternals would make a great series. And Love and Thunder is too antipodean in its humour and pathos mix to have wide appeal in the US despite being a guilty pleasure for myself. Captain Marvel is a fave for myself...just a comfy blanket of a film for myself. MoM is hot garbage.

[@johncampbell756]

@@damian01061973 Luckily, I don't have to look up antipodian. If you substituted the word bipolar, you would have my problem. The extreme shifts in tone from scene to scene don't work for me. A certain actor is putting in a performance better suited to the Shakespearean underpinning of the original Thor, and then immediate farce. I'm getting too close to flat out spoilers, so I will say no more. There is a random silliness added to certain films that undercuts those films.

[@christophersims3319]

I know this is everyone’s least favorite Thor movie in phase one. But I like it because it’s more rooted in the real Norse myth

[@InterdimensionalCowlick]

They do a really bad job of selling the villain. The character play between Thor and Loki is great tho.

[@perrywinkle5000]

This is phase 2. Each phase is essentially finished after an Avengers film. This is after the first Avengers so phase 2.

[@jabecker21]

You’re reaction to this is spot on. This isn’t a bad movie but the good news is you’ve just passed the lowest point of the first three phases of the MCU, it’s all amazing from here.

[@Georgia_Outlaw_Vinyl]

The next Thor movie is not formulaic. It’s the best Thor movie but you’ve got a ways to go before you get to it. “Let’s do get help.”

[@ianburns1167]

I don't like Ragnarok - the minority I know. Waititi clearly resented writing a story that involved Ragnarok when he wanted to write buddy cop space nonsense. But I will say this for it - it wasn't Love and Thunder.

[@jestbone89]

We are NOT doing "Get help"!

[@craigmorris4083]

You will see one of those "Rock Guys' again. This one will be much nicer, :)

[@ChrisReise]

36:28 You say the Thor movies are boring. I wouldn't TOTALLY agree with you, but I can definitely see your point. Perhaps with a new director for the next one will change the way you feel about them. :)

[@InterdimensionalCowlick]

"Heimdell is so good at his job. He needs a raise." Spoiler alert: Heimdell doesn't get a raise.

[@cklambo]

And he's not very good at his job either

[@jasonseipler2665]

Yeah, it's hela sad.

[@johnmcclure40]

"I learned a bit about Infinity Stones on the streets." Now I'm imagining Shanelle hanging out when someone approaches her and tries to sell her an infinity stone that fell off the back of a truck.

[@heffatheanimal2200]

Every time they mention The Aether: "There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge."

[@accordgolfer]

We can't stop here, it's bat country!

[@dcplunkett]

Hanging Mjolnir tidily on the coatrack was such a nice moment.

[@michaelfritz8725]

Natalie Portman wasn't there for the end credit scene kiss the kiss was with Chris Hemsworth's actual wife in a wig. Sif is a badass in this yes, and in Norse mythology she is Thor's wife

[@infinitelybi2064]

Loki's "Shape shifty thing" is just a form of Magic that Freida taught him, which is just one reason why Loki loves her more than Odin and Thor. There's MAAAANY different types of Magic in the MCU. Notice when Loki and Thor were walking, Loki changed Thor into Sif at one point, not just himself.

[@VideoGameVillians]

Audiences collectively agreed with you about this Thor movie formula, which is why they change things up after this one.

[@cjperry2731]

You: "noooo!... Thor's mom!" Future MCU: evil laugh

[@Timmayytoo]

I think your assessment is generally accurate, however I would like to note that additional photography, or reshoots, do not automatically indicate problems with the production. ALL MCU films have additional photography budgeted, which is fairly uncommon to see, and most directors will tell you that they LOVE having that available because sometimes you find something good, but unplanned, in the edit, and it lets them go back and shoot more scenes to flesh out that new part of the story. Having said that, this was easily the most troubled Marvel Studios production up till that point in time, with them actually switching directors after shooting began... and it definitely shows.

[@wyterabitt2149]

It's not that any happened at all. It's that enough happened for it to be torture according some of the cast. That's very different, and not likely unless there were problems (there's always exceptions of course).

[@MelaniePoparad]

I know many people don’t love this movie, but I always found it quite enjoyable. Weakest of the Thor movies, but I still really like it.

[@pr3sidentspence]

@@MelaniePoparad Hmmm… I’m trying to decide if it’s stronger than Love and Thunder. I think I preferred this one to that.

[@DukeDarkshadow]

I saw a comment from a review on another channel that I thought was pretty spot on. Someone said that the problem with this movie is the same problem that every Phase 4&5 movie has suffered from--they're following Infinity War and Endgame so people are expecting that caliber of a movie. And with Dark World, it was coming off the heels of the first Avengers film, so Dark World just couldn't live up to the high bar that it and some of the other MCU movies before it had set. It's not terrible. It just happens to be a 7 in a movie series that has 8's and 9's.

[@johnthien1412]

The epic music / movie quality ratio was very high for this movie. Your reaction is in line with popular sentiment…but don’t worry, good things are coming…I’m very excited to see your take on the next two.

[@Sherman1fan]

6:42- I saw Thor 2 twice in the theater, each time a woman gasped/ exclaimed at his torso, one lady said excuse me, Woah! The other said OMG! The rest of us all laughed in amazement and approval.

[@dustinheese]

This movie is fine. It really helps with character growth long-term.

[@jonmercano1138]

There’s 6 infinity stones. The Collector wants the other five. The Aether and the Tesseract have been identified as two of them. The Avengers may be established now, but the proceeding films will primarily focus on the titular character(s). Maybe cameos, or less prominent involvement, like Bruce in the Iron Man 3 post credits, or Nick Fury delivering a sit rep

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Which stone is the aether? I might have missed that detail.

[@jonmercano1138]

@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 reality

[@Splurr]

The levitating truck is an amazing trick. It is not CGI, its a real truck mounted on a machine that lifts it up! Awsome! There is a behind the scenes clipp on the net. 🚛

[@Black71Eagle]

Those relms were in chaos and it took war to restore order ... so yes in these cases it does translate to peace... much like WW2 and 1 we had to get involved to restore order and end the "evil" expansions

[@dyegorodriguez2126]

"Asgard's always stealing"... Wait a minute, is Asgard the British Museum? 🤔

[@wyterabitt2149]

Wait to you hear what every museum, every empire, and every civilisation of any kind did to their neighbours from the beginning of time.

[@notmee2388]

“It was… fine…” Yeah, that’s what we all said. Good news is, for a good while (the next 12movies) everything is much better.

[@DukeDarkshadow]

Shanelle be over here saying that she was never worried about the low stakes of the universe. Her saying that does "put a smile on my face" 😂

[@AmbassadorBIGz]

There's a pretty strong theory about in a movie that involves some sort of heist or mischievous plan. The theory is, if the characters tell you about the plan while showing scenes of the plan happening, then it will work. If you know the entire plan before it is executed, then it will not work.

[@tomclark5924]

Based on your comments I cannot wait for you to see what comes next. Things are about to get amazing, and I believe even you will be surprised and maybe a little impressed. Buckle up, it's going to be fun either way.

[@AreWeThinking]

Not shapeshifting moreso illusion sorcery. He learned it from Frigga.

[@x_warhog_x8701]

Loki's magic was taught to him by his mother.

[@SlamminGraham]

This is one of the lesser MCU films pre-Infinity War, so I agree for the most part. We fall off a huge cliff post-Infinity War, though, so by comparison to the later films this is one is pretty decent.

[@Christian-el2bz]

You are correct. But Thor 2 is still much, MUCH better than Thor 4: Love and Blunder

[@wyterabitt2149]

There's still plenty of good to great films after, people just like to go over the top because there are a few poor ones as well. And most of the TV shows are really good, with only a couple of poorer ones.

[@Christian-el2bz]

@@wyterabitt2149 No... Loki is boring. Yes the ending is like: "Wow" but 1½ of seasons to get the ending is not great. WandaVision is boring.. Falcon and Bucky is quite a boring duo and their series is quite dry...She-Hulk was bad... The Netflix daredevil and Punisher have been renewed... To.... So far.. Do nothing...

[@wyterabitt2149]

@@Christian-el2bz Yes, you aren't like other girls. Well done, you are special.

[@Christian-el2bz]

​@@wyterabitt2149 YAY!

[@erich.1355]

You seemed to enjoy it throughout, and were engaged enough to express sorrow and surprise and amusement many times, so it's hard to call it anything but what it is -- a fine and successful superhero movie. But like you said, it's not exactly 'fresh' and it's not going to challenge you as a viewer, really, so it's perfectly understandable to be just 'whelmed' and even disappointed with 'fine.' I've always thought it's much too maligned among the MCU films, and maybe you'll look back on it differently the further you go, but the good news is the next several films in the MCU are outstanding. Hope you enjoy! :)

[@ichrispy1]

I think the only redeeming parts of this movie are one, the introduction to the Infinity Stones and two the bolstering of the relationship between Jane and Thor. They both come into play in future movies. Trying not to spoil! The movies only get better from here, Shan! Trust it! As always love your reactions!

[@ohryan9872]

I am willing to bet that you will really enjoy Thor Ragnarok I can't wait to see your reaction up next I believe it's the guardians of the Galaxy can't wait for that reaction to

[@andrew77961]

“One down, five to go.” “There’s five infinity stones.” Shan. Plz. 😂

[@MarkDemeo]

The woman giving Thor directions, got to deliver a fun line,got to be really close to Hemsworth, not a bad day's work.

[@StarkRG]

Not really creative license for the funeral, it's just that they assumed the gods of the Vikings would have Viking funerals (or, in-universe, that the Vikings borrowed their funeral rites from their gods).

[@o0pinkdino0o]

This is the final MCU movie before Disney bought the studio. From here the quality of product on screen noticably ramps up.

[@Evil_Peter]

Disney bought Marvel in 2009, so before Iron Man 2 had come out. They later made Marvel Studios separate from Marvel Entertainment but that wasn't until 2015, after Ant-Man had come out.

[@speedhuntr]

Shanelle, "Somebody Pay Him" to the intern hitting the baddies with a car got a spit take out of me. Nice.

[@margoadams6627]

Loki is the best part of this movie. And honestly hes one of the best mcu characters. I love Tony but I perfer loki all the way. Plus this movie isn't that bad just wait until you see love and thunder.

[@Wix_Mitwirth]

The funeral seems in line with what I remember of Norse funeral pyres on water as depicted in Rocket Gibraltar, which you should all see.

[@ericgallini3988]

Every phase 2 movie has a hand getting lost as an homage to Empire Strikes Back

[@Shenare]

Funnily enough, black elves are actually what dwarves are called in Norse mythology.

[@jeffrogers2180]

Thor himself makes fun of the dark elves in Avengers Infinity war.

[@wesley.peterson]

Your take on this formula being boring was very received by Taika Waititi and that is why the next Thor movie is a top 3 Marvel movie, all time. You are going to LOVE Ragnarok.

[@zebzamboni]

And then he got full of himself and made Love and Thunder worse than Dark World.

[@martinmcwilliams]

I love how important this film becomes in the entire story arc of the avengers saga.

[@jeffrogers2180]

The cop from bridesmaids name is Chris O'Dowd, and he's a funny dude.

[@kevinsizemore2053]

So good in "The IT Crowd"

[@jonathanphillips5794]

I like how Anthony Hopkins lets his natural Welsh accent slip into some of Odin's lines.

[@-M0LE]

But hey he sounded Cornish or more West Country

[@jackabalas]

“Ok, Loki was mine to k*ll. WTF!” That was endlessly funny to me

[@zebzamboni]

The guy you thought was Jimmy Fallon was Zachary Levi. He was in Chuck, Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and Shazam.

[@PhilBagels]

Every movie in Phase 2 has a hand cut off. Almost every MCU movie has someone fall/jump/eject from an aircraft. The Collector is not a bad guy. But he's not a good guy, either. He just wants to collect stuff. He's not trying to kill anyone or take over the universe or anything like that.

[@wyterabitt2149]

This is a spoiler technically. She has no idea, and the film let it stay up in the air with "is he, isn't he" for any normal viewers of the series after this film.

[@davidbergfors6820]

it's funny you should say that the Thor Movies are formulaic with the "Oh, no, the World is going to end" trope, Since the next one is called "Ragnarök", it's literally "Apocalypse" from the norse mythology.

[@jestertlsodx9897]

Loki is one of the most important characters in the MCU. You will come to love him as we have.

[@little_forest]

"Let me tell you the story of Thor and Jane Fonda..." And damn, Shanelle, you really do know what makes good story telling... and what does not! :)

[@cbobwhite5768]

"He can help get Jane off, somehow." Could you maybe rephrase that?

[@danholmesfilm]

lol

[@pr3sidentspence]

@@cbobwhite5768 I was thinking the same thing but about the”drippy” line.

[@Exaris79]

That last scene with Jane kissing Thor is actually Chris Hemsworth's wife Elsa Pataky.

[@kingjellybean9795]

I looooved him hanging mjolnir on a chinsey coat hanger lol a magical weapon that isnt super heavy but since like no one can pick it up we all think its prob mad heavy

[@Billis75]

“Oh no the world is going to end” became so fatiguing (sometimes called big blue beam in the sky). It ended up hurting films with those stakes. Suicide Squad was one example. In the same year as this movie, the x-men universe released The Wolverine which I actually liked because it was a lower (or more personal) stakes story. Thor 3(ragnarok) is my favorite MCU film and it’s not even close to the dark world.

[@mauz4588]

The most important and most interesting thing in the movie is definitely Loki and his relationship with Frigga. Nothing else in the movie really matters.

[@RickJagger13]

it’s absolutely peace this either realms are feeding on perceived weakness. thor went in and showed them asgard is not weak

[@3Rayfire]

_"This looks like Jimmy Fallon"_ actually it's Chuck. Zack "Shazam" Levi, One of the few actors privileged to do both Marvel and DC movies....come to think of it, so is Idris "Heimdall/Bloodsport" Elba.

[@terminatrix92]

I think this film gets an unfairly harsh wrap. What it does with the Loki and Thor dynamic is huge for both of their characters, cementing their dynamic. I appreciate the commitment to fantasy and drama over the easier jokes and lighter stories the MCU often does. And this film does hint at the sinister side of Asgard that is developed on further in the future. The costume work and set design also surpass many later movies... It's choppy buttery watchable. Best of all it doesnt feel beholden to the rest of the franchise. Future films live in the world of the MCU but this one expands it

[@Justin_Leone]

It's difficult to say (without having the originally intended film to compare it to), whether this movie suffered more from having an underdeveloped villain as a result of focusing on Thor and Loki, or whether the Thor/Loki relationship was a saving grace in an otherwise pretty bland story. Both are probably true to some extent. In any case, it pales in comparison to Iron Man 3 because Thor himself doesn't really have any arc or growth here, and as pointed out in the reaction, the "Earth is in terrible danger... again" stakes alone just aren't enough to carry it. Thankfully, though, this one is followed by a long string of absolute gems (no pun intended).

[@timhonigs6859]

Happy Marvel Sunday!!

[@Keithjmcc]

It’s important to keep track of Thors legacy throughout the series. It’s all relevant.

[@incredulousdisbelief9841]

All I will say is that this movie's value increases greatly over time. By itself, I agree, it's only so-so for a Marvel movie. You will have to keep watching to see why.

[@estephens13]

Best thing about this movie is that Winter Soldier is next.

[@DavidGowers]

Still one of the best, if not THE best, of the entire MCU for me.

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Isn't ultron before winter soldier.

[@estephens13]

@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 Nope, I double checked. Its Winter Soldier, Guardians, then Ultron.

[@billyg898]

Exactly.

[@strettoasino9006]

From London to Washington DC and Americans obsession with guns.... The least superhero movie, Just shooting of everything...

[@tarlane]

Loki's plans always involve betrayal. Just isn't always the good guys he betrays.

[@allison4516]

I can’t wait until your next Marvel reaction. Arguably one of the best ones out there!

[@pkeridactyl]

Man I'm so ready for the rest of phase 2!

[@jxy8938]

In the context of the entire mcu, this is an important film, but thats because every film is important. There will be callbacks that dont make this entirely redundant, however it is definitely like in my bottom 3 movies in the infinity saga. As you now know, the aether is an infinity stone, and they gave it to that guy in the end credit scene because they already have the tesseract in asgard and they said it wouldnt be wise to keep 2 in the same place. So this movie is definitely not the best, but because its the movie that introduces the aether, we judt have to stomach it as a film to further the overall story

[@SilentBob731]

30:55 Hey Shan, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? 😁

[@denace2society591]

Thor Ragnarok is one of the best MCU movies. Can't wait for you to get to that one. But I was never really a big fan of this one, either.

[@WayneQuashie-qe7xd]

The Aether, is the 3rd Infinity Stone seen and retrieved in the MCU!!!!!😉

[@dimasaviles7525]

I definitely cant wait for Ragnarok

[@movieswithsammykitty]

I can’t wait for you to see Thor: Ragnarok!

[@Dam-a-fence]

I asked the exact same question. 6:15 is it really peace if you have to kill people for it? No, choices matter. The Jedi for example, target the weapon, then the fingers, then the wrist, then the lower forearm and so on, because the theatrical nature of the story requires mercy above all else from the heroes. Star Trek Voyager, 6x22, Muse does a fair job for a dramatic science fiction series, thought I think the most fantastic example I'm aware of is Heath Leger's last film, the Imaginarium of Doctor Parnasus. In my opinion, it does the best hyperbolic explaining on the topic of how to enact peace. 17:40Comics, yeah, Thor LGY #750 -Funeral for a King. Touching and relative. The shapeshifting is best left alone for now, though I will say, it could also come to be seen to relate to the aforementioned Imaginarium, if one is also familiar with the Harry Potter movie series. Again, I thank all the wonderful storytellers, even if they did in fact produce a formulaic and dull movie I bought anyway. Mew-mew sold me on it, just enough whimsy to justify 8 bucks.

[@kingjellybean9795]

Id love another thor movie, icelanders snd greenlanders pledging themselves as soldiers of asgard... actually getting a chance for Valhalla. A shot to fight along side thor. To live the tales their grandfathers told them around a fire.

[@zatornagirroc7175]

As you read at the end, you kind of have to take this one as setup for a grander plan. This was not looked on as one of the better movies in the MCU, and if I can recall, the somewhat negative reviews kind of smacked the new Marvel Studios in the face. I think they had their grander plan in view, but forgot that the individual movies needed more than to just move the plot along. There was some necessary story telling here, and it will all make sense later, but I agree with you, there were weaknesses to this one.