THORGIL IS A MENACE! Vinland Saga Season 2 Episode 12 REACTION! | 2x12 "For Lost Love"

[@CarlieAndAnge]

Thorgil has absolutely ZERO chill. Getting some Thorkell vibes from this man. Our reactions to Episodes 2x13, 2x14, 2x15, 2x16, 2x17, 2x18, 2x19 & 2x20 are all available over on Patreon! www.patreon.com/carlie_and_ange

[@اميرمادرا]

The king is badass

[@ArtesMatt]

It's great to see how Thorgil isn't the strong and dumb type, the guy has brains! It seems to me that all he wanted most was a great battle to be honorable.

[@KC_4302-v1t]

So basically smarter but weaker thorkell

[@Literallyjustmint]

@@KC_4302-v1tthorkell isnt dumb either

[@daniaaal]

@@Literallyjustmintsmarter doesnt mean the less smart is dumb

[@RoflCannon6]

Being strong and dumb will get you killed in battle. The strong and smart have a better chance of living to see the next battle.

[@vince7520]

@@KC_4302-v1tThorgill is basically a weaker Thors before he become pacifist. Same physical structure, same fighting style. He even have Thors theme in the ketil farm battle

[@coleknight6833]

You guys are some of the only reactors I watch that see the symbolism immediately and understand how beautiful it is. I love both of your perspectives, especially on this show, as it's one of my favorites. I can't wait to see your reactions to the rest of this season. Both of you will be blown away I think. Thanks for making such fantastic, wholesome, and consistent content Carlie, Ange, and Editor :)

[@CarlieAndAnge]

Thanks so much! Glad you’re enjoying our videos

[@kenyangooner1092]

Theres some other good ones too Like filmbuff or semblance of sanity

[@adrianwagner8202]

This is probably the first "real" action scene in this season and it's depicted as what it exactly is: pointless atrociticies with no purpose whatsoever. It's not enjoyable, it's not "cool", it's more reminiscent of a horror scene. Even though we should be rightfully mad at these bullies, that doesn't make the moment any less horrifying.

[@Bayard1503]

How was it pointless?? Without it the family would have been arrested

[@aaronjay4247]

@@Bayard1503 i dont think you fully understood what he was saying. He means that violence as a whole is pointless. he didn't mean the specific scene was pointless.

[@Nic-ye2yz]

@@Bayard1503 The family was still about to be arrested. If only Olmar had the courage to take their ridicule in that moment.

[@اميرمادرا]

The goat is here

[@Un1234l]

@@Nic-ye2yz But he didn't know that. The point was to save his family amidst his lacking information.

[@peteleng3075]

6:28 "I saw the way he ate that chicken"🤣🤣🤣

[@NC-cs9gx]

over the years I got pretty used to watching all youtube videos on 1.5 speed, yet everytime when ange does a cover of an intro I always slow it down to normal speed to fully appreciate it. Man has got some talent

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

It's worth noting that in the value system of their culture Thorgil hasn't done anything wrong here. There was serious fighting breaking out between warriors, so of course one side ended up dead, and what preceded was a duel over an insult. We see a ton of that happening before that, and you'll note that most of the time you'll have bystanders watching and cheering with no consequences if one party dies. That's why he knew immediately that they'd been set up when they attempted to arrest him and his families; While technically illegal, as he said this law so far only really existed on paper with nobody bothering to enforce it. So what's being shown here is not Thorgil specifically doing anything wrong (again, he was acting exactly like someone of his status ought to behave), what's wrong is the entire value system that normalises this behaviour of glorifying might and violence and downplaying the significance of life. --- As to Thorkell, if he's still alive chances are he's still in england. He's not part of Canute's personal entourage. --- One thing I think a lot of people miss at this point is how big of a moment this is for Olmar. Up to this point he's had fantasies of violence. This is the first time he's really confronted with the reality of it.

[@vagoerrante]

thanks for writing this down, I was going to write almost the same thing but you already did it, great job 👌

[@ilsrzz135]

that makes a lot of sense 🤔

[@MAT-wn5fr]

In any culture, a person should be allowed to defend themselves.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@MAT-wn5fr the situation here has clearly exceeded the scope of what would be considered self defense under any reasonable interpretation.

[@rollzmoist5061]

'i saw the way he ate that chicken' got some serious hound vibes from GOT lol

[@delirious_deron_]

fr😭😭😭😭

[@kikikim4589]

Episode was so good 24 minutes was like 4 minutes imagine a fight between thorkell and thorgil it will be Epic

[@rohannn8099]

Yeah right!? I hope there is a fight between them in later seasons.

[@arunsingh44]

​@@rohannn8099umm 🤔 i dont think its gonna happen

[@nischay4760]

Thorkell will destroy him mate, Thorgil just had weaker opponents. Wulf called Thorgil a good subordinate so I'm guessing they are similar in skill. I'm sure that Askeladd and prime Thorfinn could comfortably take care of both Wulf and Thorgil as well.

[@vince7520]

@@nischay4760Thorgill is basically a weaker Thors. Same physical structure, same fighting’s style and they use Thors theme for Thorgill later in the season. It’s a good parallel, Snake is a Askellad who find that humanity isn’t only disgusting and Thorgill is a Thors who never understand what a true warrior is. Thorfinn never meet Thorgill too. It’s very complicated to make a hierarchy but Thorgill is definitely on the same level as Askellad, even stronger.

[@markgregorygacosta531]

Thorgil might be an extremely violent guy who likes wars and battles, but he's not dumb, he's smart and is actually quite rational. He also cares about his family.

[@adrone123]

Ange: "Can Thorgill be put under arrest?" Now that's the kind of questioning I like around here!

[@IVIattRandomSmith]

He in fact cannot

[@Primopower14]

You have a great analysis of scenes

[@xel1673]

19:12 The song is "Somewhere Else", I believe. It kicks in right as the line "Why did you allow Olmar to win?" is voiced. Then the guard reveals the truth. This is the pivotal point in the Farmland arc where shit hits the fan and a chain of events that affects many begins. But more specifically for the scene, the music, I think, is reflecting what Ketil is feeling. He was set up and betrayed by his king. His wild, foolish sons unintentionally gave Canute an excuse to destroy him. He and his family are now criminals. Everything he's worked for is going to be taken away. Ketil's world is collapsing before his eyes. I think the song represents Ketil's devastation as the scheme is revealed and the inescapable reality sinks in. It also is a moment for Olmar, who realizes he's been manipulated and used against his father.

[@reezwave]

This is why I love Thorgil, that guy is nowhere near dumb, he will sacrifice at all cost like his job as a guard just to protect his family, to protect his dad's farm.

[@rageingmang]

You guys are very smart while talking after and figuring out where it’s going!

[@doha1623]

''i like Leif to take Thorfinn , einar and Arneild back to Iceland'' I didn't know a sentence could make me cry

[@Ash_Wen-li]

PAIN

[@LuisSierra42]

@@Ash_Wen-li fr

[@paulmihai210]

Just wait till they get to the part where Arnheid becomes a punching bag

[@josecruzaguirre2152]

​@@paulmihai210well in peatron they reached now

[@MekarWB]

Thorgil Jaeger out here turning a man into a murderer

[@detona9356]

ange and carlie holding back the laugh was the best 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ArtesMatt]

HALF THE SEASON HAS PASSED! THE ROLLER COASTER OF EMOTIONS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WILL CALM DOWN.

[@ELIONAIRE]

u know the character is special when they own 'THOR' on their name

[@islandgirl75]

The whole time I was watching Canute's character progression, I was like...thank goodness Ragnar wasn't here to see him become this person :(

[@aurilio5633]

Ange tell Carlie to prepare the tissue box, things gonna go wild from now on

[@TheSteiner12]

PEAKLAND SAGA UPLOAD 😭😭😭❤❤

[@YellinInMyEar]

Thorfinn 2.0 is like a cartoon of our Thorfinn. 😂

[@goby1764]

Laughing at olmar was so fucking funny. Reminded me of laughing with the homies

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Thorkell is either in England or at Jomsburg right now. He doesn't really care for Canute anymore

[@7slimy278]

I don't know if people mentioned it, but great cover :D

[@vanderlark]

Ange ignored the „Robin Hood“ joke. Good. Wouldn‘t want to reward this kind of behavior. 😤😂

[@abhinavmishra04]

Keep it coming

[@umarsubhan7035]

yesss just in time

[@neito.m.6741]

Anyone with Thor in thier name is simply a savage.

[@hasan3step570]

This is the episode where this season loses its chill 😂

[@iReaDy98]

When you show your little sister a horror movie 5:47

[@richardrimachi5309]

«I feel sorry for him». No por mucho tiempo x_x

[@UncensoredScion]

Seriously the only person in all of that bloodshed that was in the right was Thorgil, he lived by a code of honour and responsibility. If Olmar had run Thorgil would've killed him for that insult to him and his family. Yeah it was brutal, yeah it was violent and yeah he enjoyed it, but he was not the bad guy in any of this. Canute was. He sacrificed a member of his own guard to have an excuse to seize the land of a person who was already loyal to him, who would've given more if asked, it scares me how painful the point is being here on how disconnected we are from the world they live in. Thorgil was prepared to be killed in battle for defending his family's name and reputation and people shouldn't look on that as a bad thing.

[@MGH86]

I have a random question for both of you as someone who has never seen dragon Ball z ever. Should I watch it? Or is it not worth the hype?

[@jakemaanimeikalainen248]

It is not a good anime in any way. People just praise it because of nostalgia. The original dragon ball is decent though which takes place before z.

[@CarlieAndAnge]

This is false. It’s fantastic. Definitely watch it if you’re willing to put in the time and the moments will really pay off. Id recommend watching it in dub with the US soundtrack as well.

[@lshxnksl]

Not worth the time...

[@dharveshbeedasee5468]

First .love your vids❤❤❤❤❤❤😊

[@kikikim4589]

Not related to peakland saga but just curious if you have any plans to watch jojo's in the future

[@Youalrightboi]

i dont know , i had respect for Thorgil here . he didnt start the fight . He didnt interfare the dual either . he interfare to protect his brother when 3 other men interefared his dual . He again didnt raise his swords at the guards for arresting him . He figured out that his family is being trapped . he fought to protect his family

[@mikkosimonen]

Olmar would've stopped fighting, but Thorgil made him continue, threatening to kill him if he didn't. He doesn't care about his family, and his bloodlust deserves zero respect.

[@simonsupersad1722]

@@mikkosimonen it was part of the setup, if olmar stopped fighting he wouldve been killed by the other guy.. you dont get to say sorry and walk off

[@Youalrightboi]

@@mikkosimonen kudos to you for liking your own comment. Olmar would not have stopped ..he would have been killed there . Because they were not gonna stop.. Also according to vikings , olmar would be considered dead if he doesn't respond to his insult . Thorgil would not have done anything extra to kill him. Thorgil helped him instead . And it was a dual . If Thorgil steps into to help olmar , then it would be an insult to olmar. So i m okay with not helping olmar physically. But once its done , he did step to help him . Because the matter turned into something else

[@RyzenShanks]

@@simonsupersad1722 actually no, the hooded guy won't kill Olmar because the plan is to let Olmar win and kill the king's men.

[@RyzenShanks]

Thorgil doesn't care about protecting his family. If he does care, he should've stopped Olmar and let everything pass through. Thorgil even encouraged his young brother to attack despite knowing that his brother will never win and will die. Thorgil knew that his young brother would die and yet he still encouraged him to attack. He even seriously threatened his younger brother. Pure evil. He interfered not to protect his brother but to satisfy his bloodlust and allow the "bigger play" to continue when he realized that someone helped Olmar win.

[@AJCoCoQueen]

SYMBOLISM. That’s it. This whole season. Great symbolism throughout.

[@destinsuggs5265]

I don’t mean too much offense but AOT doesn’t have an original thought in the whole show. Every aspect of it is “borrowed” from much greater stories with a few shock moments that mostly fall flat. The author at least tried to come up with something interesting at the end but it is just ruined by the fact that it doesn’t fall in line with what he stole from greater writers.

[@KoiR2Y2]

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