Thou Shalt Surge Protect! NEC Changes 2017 / 2020 / 2023

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[@bill7949]

That’s the way i understand it

[@chrisf3875]

So true, The surge is on the rise!! Also let's not forget about 215.18 The way I read it, when you install a sub panel you're going to have to install a surge protecto also. Even though you have one at the main service. Then there is 700.8 requirement From what I understand it was not so much the lightning issue that was driving the issue with a surge protectors being mandated. The true concern was when the utility increases or decreases,the voltages seasonally for air conditioning loads they're finding their generating spikes in their distribution system and causing damage. Lighting is a whole different animal you might get some protection also. Peace

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Great video !

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[@MrKen59]

I’m all for using them, but when you go to someone who is trying to make ends meet and tell them - install a surge protector and charge $500-2000 is a bit much. I agree with the surge protector 100% - but what level of protection are you requiring? They have units as low as 22k and other can be super protective for thousands.

[@RJ-ej1nr]

For basic protection to pass here, the SPDs that go in the breaker slots are fine, which are ~$500 (service call+SPD part). Nice of Eaton and Siemens to have combo SPD/breakers for doing it even when the panel is full. I'd like to see a analysis of cost/value on the higher rated/larger SPDs for resi. Recently here, a transformer had a catastrophic failure, with much damage (~100 homes) to connected devices but even for those that had respectable SPDs were not spared.

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[@atkgrl]

I just upGraded from a 100 amp money panel to a 400 meter w/ 2 (200 amp disconnects panels) with a new in house 200 amp subpanel. I’m looking at surge protectors and wonder where do I buy one to go at the meter panel and do I buy one that covers 400 amps? How to determine what size surge protection is needed? Required?

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[@qcsupport2594]

Do typical Type1/2 surge protectors do much for lightning?

[@avikashramjit165]

Electrical code coach does it make sense to put two type 2 surge protector in the main panel?

[@Inkling777]

When I added whole house surge protection I opted for the Siemens FS140, which offers 140,000 amps of protection. One reason I went with the top-tier was a feeling that it could cope with a surge that would blow out a protector with a lesser rated model. In that case more would save me money. Do you think there's any truth to that?

[@Inkling777]

When I encourage people to get a whole house surge protector I point out that they cost less that replacing the electronics in their appliances. Surge protectors sell to a broad market, so the prices are competitive. When the control board in an appliance goes out, your only source is likely to be the manufacturer. They get to set the price.

[@JackA2430]

Is it a good idea to install in an older panel if you're getting some breakers replaced?

[@stephenkennedy6358]

If you are required to add surge suppression when you're just changing the panel due to defect only, does that mean you have to upgrade the grounding too, if they don't have 2 ground poles installed? The directions on the surge suppressor states you have to have a sound ground for the device to work properly.

[@atkgrl]

Please keep in mind not everyone is an LICENSED electrician, some of us are too old to start new careers but still do the work.

[@ElectricalCodeCoach]

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[@RJ-ej1nr]

I find it dubious that SPDs will do much against a direct lightning strike (versus NFPA 780). Something traveling miles across free air is not going to be dissipated by even a big home size MOV which is still only around the size of your thumb. I believe it could save devices if strike is next door or somewhere way up the line, though.

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