We Tried Sitting on the Floor for 5 Years. Here's What REALLY Happened.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Don't miss our new video, "The Massive Flaw in Your Ergonomic Workspace That No One Talks About"! 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5mUiGqNbNOZl7c What would you like to know about sitting on the floor? Leave your questions and suggestions on what you'd like to see, and we'll try to make those videos happen! 🫶

[@nicteal]

Now I am tempted to try out in my new place. Feeling the fomo from the potential benefits. 😂 Thanks for sharing your experience! 😊 I am curious to find out more unusual but healthy habits that you guys practise. 🤣

[@rendyjansen]

Your lessons learned and advice for someone to start working from the floor would be really interesting to me

[@aricamccarthy1421]

How long are are you on average sitting at your set ups each day?

[@childlikejoy]

My husband and I have sat on the floor for just over 7 or 8 years and it was so funny as an internet friend commented that when we got to her age we'd see it was too uncomfortable and silly! We asked her age and she replied 38 years old. I told her we had no worries there as I am 46 and my husband 51... :P

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

🤣

[@treasurewuji8740]

It gets uncomfortable because you lose what you don’t use

[@smarmar400]

I'm older than your husband and I have no problem getting onto or up from the floor. Probably because I've done it my whole life and never stopped doing it. I've noticed that my younger friends, like in their 20s and 30s complaining about joint pain and feeling "old". It's important to keep moving.

[@CristalianaIvor]

@@smarmar400 I am one of those people who feel old at not only 30 (currently 28) and I am going to the gym now to get back my mobility and build strength so I hopefully won't feel old anymore until I am actually old!

[@smarmar400]

@@CristalianaIvor Go get 'em, tiger. That's the spirit!

[@NehaBeauty]

Sitting on the floor becomes very normal the moment you have a baby. Playing on the floor, sitting with them, squat down to their eye level, all this happens for many years and it’s so so good for your body AND bond with the child. I highly recommend.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Very true! Noticed that too when our baby niece came over recently.

[@rendyjansen]

I was thinking the same thing! The month she started crawling I spent more time on the floor than the last year combined

[@NehaBeauty]

@@rendyjansen Yes isn't it wonderful? it's also fun to see the world from their view, and then you start putting things closer and more accessible for them.. :)

[@hiddenmutant]

@@rendyjansencrawling around after them is really beneficial as an adult too!

[@cocolasticot9027]

I prefer my dog for all of that. To each their own 😊

[@Meowch3]

Interesting!! Living in Japan, my husband and I had sat on the floor (zabuton, really) for about 5 years as well. Frequent butt pain made us get those huge cushions from mujirushi, but those gave us back pain instead, so we caved in and finally got a sofa. Never looked back! We still keep our floor lifestyle in the tatami room, but for long periods of sitting, we found that we need a proper desk and chair for doing serious work, and a sofa for those days where we're truly tired and need rest. Our personal takeaway was that having only one sitting position available is probably not healthy, no matter what it is. We now have three options for sitting (desk chair, sofa, floor), and I haven't had butt or back pain since.

[@Volkbrecht]

Not just your personal takeaway, it's what the OSHA people tell every office worker: active sitting, plus take at least a few minutes walking-break every hour.

[@truepeacenik]

Changing sitting options keeps you moving, which lessens the stiffening of connective tissue (fascia, mainly, but it applies to ligaments and tendons some). I bounce from floor with rug, to a meditation cushion, to a couch. When one isn’t comfortable after a bit, I’ll try the other options. High padding tends to result in stiffening/pain, for me. I don’t mind bones on medium hard surfaces.

[@bluemusic039]

I think that's the best thing you can do!

[@Lienna-]

I'm going to add 4th option - standing. Now looking for a high cheap stand for the laptop

[@ViridianForests]

@@Lienna- ​​ My personal cheap high stand for my laptop is a sturdy box and as many layers of exactly the same thickness of books to put on each side so the fan can breathe ;) Works like a charm! And adjustable so long as you have books of the same thickness you're willing to sacrifice to the pile. But you can always invest in a proper stand of course, I'm sure there are some that aren't too bad price wise

[@chromebabi]

I used to sit on the floor ,sleep on the floor and do most of my hobbies on the floor as child up until my 20's and Im thinking of going back because I just remember it being better. Im currently looking for inspo and Im happy I saw your video it makes me confident in the idea of going back to less funiture.

[@alexsawyer2060]

“Comfort isn’t always good for us.” 🔥 love this!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

🙌

[@DanDanDoe]

Yeah, not everything has to be convenient either. Inconvenience can bring joy, connection, and a sense of both mental and physical strength and flexibility.

[@bluehair0476]

I always liked sitting on the floor or would take my legs up on the chair. I find it uncomfortable to sit on chairs for a long time and never found a good desk-and-chair-setup. A few years ago I finally built a floor desk and have no idea why I didn't do this 20 years earlier. I was probably stuck too much in my mental pictures of how desks are supposed to look like. I am so relieved and happy about sitting on the floor that I'll never go back.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Glad to hear how well it has worked for you!

[@apersonwhohasnothing]

I dislike chairs because i like to sit with my legs criss crossed. Sitting on chairs with my legs open to cold and mosquito bites makes me uncomfortable. I would genuinely like a set up like this.

[@LynnMujie]

I grew up sitting on the floor in India and I still do to this day. Whenever I go to my friend’s house I feel much more comfortable sitting with my legs crossed on the chair or on the floor. A furniture free home would be a dream for me, since I like an open space for the inner dancer inside me!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Go for it! :)

[@fortunefm]

first time i saw a floor desk setup was from you guys' post on reddit during the pandemic lock down. i sawed off my ikea legs that same week and have been on the floor til this day lol

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Awesome! 🙌

[@suryakarthikalluri3559]

You both are the ones that made me start sitting on the floor for office work. I still do it. Sometimes comfort can cost your health too and this is a perfect example to tackle it. Thanks to both of you for this unique idea to improve health and posture.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Glad to be of help 🙌

[@inthesparklingsky]

After moving to Japan I did this for about one year, but I had to reverse to table sitting because keeping the “seiza” position was too much for my knees. It was comfortable at first, but then my knees were hurting so bad even while standing and walking. Your video has a point, but I think everyone is different and should listen to their own body before anything else.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Definitely would not recommend working in seiza for any extended periods of time!

[@bluemusic039]

I think the healthiest people can do for their body is always changing positions. Humans are just not made for sitting for a prolonged time in the same positions. We're also not made for standing or walking the whole time. 😅

[@pridefall3304]

wow Japanese ppl don't even sit seiza except for formal occassions :o

[@ViridianForests]

Wasn't seiza's whole point to numb the legs of samurai so they couldn't move quickly to kill whoever was in charge or something along those lines? I'm sure I heard that somewhere. But oof, I hope you're knees are doing better now. That's a lot of strain

[@invinciblemode]

@@ViridianForestsit is. Seiza is intended to be uncomfortable.

[@user-wk5yk6bs7m]

For those already working on an adjustable standing desk, struggling with the fact that it does not get low enough to work from the floor, I have a DIY solution I use at homeoffice and even in the office. I have built a small Table-like chair, with a very wide surface, so I can sit on it like on the floor. I even put some roles under the legs and a meditation mat on top. Very easy to make and you can even sit on it like a normal chair without backrest, If you need a break. When I stand up, I can just roll it under the table.

[@DanDanDoe]

That’s great! The past few years I’ve been using a stool at my desk and that did help with sitting more actively. Lately I’ve been sitting on the floor more when watching tv or tinkering with stuff, but didn’t have a solution for my desk yet. This sounds great! So it’s basically a low table with enough surface to sit on?

[@mediazul]

Uppeal is a motorized floor to standing desk. It says it's the world's only one!

[@Buddhakingpen]

i've been on the floor pretty much my whole adult life outside of a few random years living with girlfriends that couldnt do it. I'm now 36, so about half of my life. I can get up in most ways, but that single leg squat get up was a major flex. Granted, i'm 240 pounds, but still! i've been training it for the past month or so though, i know i'm gonna get there too!

[@mimsywere]

Thanks for the tips about "use it or lose it". I did a floor set up too but I gave in too easily to surrounding myself with cushions and didn't go through the back strengthening part of it. Thanks for highlighting that our back muscles also have to grow into maintaining a good floor set up.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Glad it was helpful!

[@szablicka]

OMG! As a child I loved sitting on the floor! Thank you for reminding me!

[@abigaillarion9365]

I'd love a video demonstrating the whole spectrum of floor sitting positions and sit/stand transitions!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

We'll write that idea down! 🙌

[@prity777]

Yes please

[@sandkalt8543]

I‘m coming back to this video to leave a huge THANK YOU for your trainwell recommendation! I am now on Day 50 without having skipped a single workout, and because of the personalization of the exercises to my limitations and preferences, I finally get to enjoy my workout routine. It was truly the missing piece to lead a healthier lifestyle for me! To many more years sitting on the floor. ❤

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

That's incredible to hear! Congrats and keep it up 💪💪

[@skylark.kraken]

If a floor desk doesn't work for you, go with a standing desk instead, there's no in-between. I love the idea of a floor desk, but I'm a programmer on my computer 8-12 hours a day, and I have ADHD and it all combines to the fact that I'm only typing about 20% of the time, the remaining 80% I'm walking around thinking (walking around helps my brain think); I am in the minority where a floor desk would be worse, but I can't deny the appeal and that it would work for most people. It seems easy enough for people to try it out, easier than a standing desk. I'm also aware that you can get motorised desks that can go all the way down to a floor desk and all the way up to a standing desk (uppealdesign) so you can have access to both worlds

[@Egzvorg]

> easier than a standing desk I've been working for a year now with my monitor on top of a plastic drawer placed on a desk (which is pretty big admittedly) and my keyboard on top of diapers box.

[@gabrielagarciacavazos721]

uppealdesign floor-to-standing desk is the best thing I ever slurged on for my home office.

[@sable.forever]

Yes, make the floor desk set up video. Like you I’m trying to figure out the correct height for my floor desk set up so if you could address that issue in the next video that’d be great. What’s the best height for ergonomics compared to the height of our body’s? Thank you!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

We're on it!

[@svabosvabo3257]

@@ThoughtworthyCo There is a company called Uppeal that produces a electrical floor-to-standing desk. That would immediately eliminate the need to figure out the specific height you need before you buy any table. Would actually love you guys to review it!

[@alexsawyer2060]

@@svabosvabo3257I second this! I’m making a new office and thinking about using the Uppeal desk legs to make my own custom setup. I’d love to hear your thoughts!

[@morbidjin]

I thought about this and decided to follow the ergonomic rule where your elbow and forearm are at a 90-degree angle to the table

[@colors_in_noise]

You could try a temporary set up with a board and some bricks or books or crates and add or take away till you figure out what height works for you. ❤❤

[@anniebeanie710]

Tip: When you are too heavy/too inflexible for actual floor sitting yet, get a footstool! I bought a large footstool from IKEA and my setup is regular desk with regular ergonomic computer chair, BUT using the footstool to simulate sitting on a floor! This allows me lot of leg movement and position changes very similar to sitting on a floor! :) . Only desk setup change i did was adding the footstool! So i believe this would be great first step for anyone wanting to try floor sitting without committing to it too heavily yet.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Nice idea!

[@DavidCruickshank]

Comfort is Cake, lovely to have but too much of it is bad for your health.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Good one!

[@natashatheresa]

Hi, so, thanks to you guys, a few months ago, I decided to switch out my regular desk for a DIY floor desk by putting short legs on my desk. I made a video about it and mentioned I got the idea from you guys, and it was wild bc that video blew up haha. I just wanted to thank you for the idea, and would love to connect via email bc I feel like a lot of our journey with wellness is similar especially with furniture free living. Thank you for all you do and can’t wait to see more!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Hey! Congrats on your channel blowing up 🙌 We went and watched some of your videos and really enjoyed them. Just drop us an email or DM if you have anything on your mind. Can't wait to see more from your channel as well!

[@natashatheresa]

@@ThoughtworthyCo thanks so much! I'm very thankful I fell upon your channel b/c it really helped me think differently about conventional furniture hahaha! I was happy to see this update video and I was like I want to say hi LOL!!! I'll be in touch!!

[@Ttt-n1w]

You just earned another sub for this wholesomeness! Your vids are right up my alley, too!

[@natashatheresa]

@@Ttt-n1w awwww thank you!! ♥️♥️

[@AmIWhatIAm]

Hahah I actually watched that video you mentioned and then came here 😂

[@tokiomitohsaka7770]

I love exploring alternative ergonomics. I have been sitting on an exercise ball instead of a chair for years now and it helped me a lot, and since these aren’t particularly expensive, they are great options to try for anyone who works in front of a computer all day and wants to protect their back. The instability from the exercise ball forces you to constantly make micro-adjustments with your core muscles to improve spinal stability and reduce risk of back injuries long term. And I 100% agree that different people have different setups, so experimenting is highly recommended. I’m glad sleeping on the floor helped you two, and I’m sure your video will help some viewers watching as well.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks for sharing!

[@nmo3148]

The opposite is the case with me. I have severe lower back pain and sitting in a straight position or a firm bed makes it go away. In fact I was amazed that my back pain went away after a 12 hour economy flight where I was on a firm chair, sitting up for long.

[@alim8167]

I have been sitting on the floor since your first video on floor sitting. An adjustable desk riser works well as a desk. Humans are supposed to sit on the ground., not in chairs. Chairs restrict the body too much and getting up and down off the floor is a natural strength exercise. Thanks for the inspiration. ❤

[@judylloyd7901]

Who says so? There is no rule. 😂😂

[@RileyDBlue]

@@judylloyd7901 Throughout evolution, humans spent much of their time sitting on the ground or squatting, a natural posture seen in many traditional cultures. Chairs, especially in their modern form, only became widespread in industrialized societies. Anthropologists such as Gordon W. Hewes, who studied posture across cultures, observed that many non-Western cultures prefer sitting on the ground or squatting, which is associated with a lower incidence of back problems compared to societies that use chairs. While there is no "definitive proof" that humans are solely meant to sit on the ground, there are studies and anthropological theories supporting the idea that floor postures may be more natural and beneficial for health compared to prolonged sedentary posture in modern chairs. Have a great day, Judy!

[@EsperantaMartina]

I came across your ‘sitting on the floor’ video at the beginning of covid when, in early 2020, my former company advised we would work from home for the ‘foreseeable future’ (which I’d never done in my life before). At that time I’d been already started moving away from contemporary western settings so once I saw your set up a bell went off and pretty much did a COPY+PAST of it 😅 I have no regrets. Not only I am pleased with it estetically, but it also minimises space usage in the room and I can easily get up from the floor as you also experienced. I’ve been following you ever since and I truly appreciate your input and take on all things life ❤

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Love to hear it :) Thanks for sticking around!

[@NarrowedEyes09]

I have a back/neck issue that appeared when I was 22. Couldn't sit in certain chairs as they started building up the pressure in my head and causing vertigo and headaches. I've had blood vessels pop in my face from it on bad days. Before I started physical therapy, any form of soft seating basically K.O.'d me in short order. Had to build up my back and neck muscles to be able to get anywhere near them. I can sit in them for short periods of time now, but ultimately I prefer harder surfaces like floors and bare chairs. What REALLY helped me was when I got a dog though. Can't stay still too long with him in the house!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Another reason to have a dog as a companion!

[@paulstejskal]

Can confirm. My dog won’t poop unless he walks a couple blocks.

[@alancalkins2656]

I'm 48 and been living on the floor for about 4 years now. Highly recommend

[@Fearengate]

Great video! Floor gang is proud now

[@RafGhly]

For wiggling from out and into the table, you can consider putting a small wheel to the table legs. 2 of the wheel need a wheel that can lock. Tho, it might increase the height of the table.

[@penguineatingfish]

Was inspired by your videos to try floor desk sitting, just sawed off legs of an ikea desk. I’ve had chronic back pain for quite a few years and it’s one of the more comfortable ways for me to sit at a desk. Thanks for making videos and opening us up to alternative ways of being!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Really appreciate it! Hope your back is feeling better now :)

[@fazailman9242]

Your designs that i found on pinterest becomes my main reference of my current setup, i go as far as ordering a custom made floor table because off the shelf products doesn't fit my needs of space. I've been using this setup for almost 2 years and really happy with it, it helps that as an Indonesian i accustomed to sitting on the floor. I wholly agree with the floor chair being a downside, it's quite awkward to get in and get out but it can easily be adapted, the other downside is that it's really hard to find a high quality chair that's not custom made. But i feel like my table is a little to high, maybe i'll cut it later.

[@neil.r.]

They are back 🎉🎉

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

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[@PaulQ-gw6be]

I have moved countries a couple of times in the last decade and have been using the floor and zaisus ever since. The only drawback (in the winter) is that the cold air hangs out near the floor if you don’t have heated floors. However, I always have a kotatsu too, so problem solved! When I set up my part-time apartment in the US, I bought a regular table and cut the legs down to kotatsu height. I then installed a kotatsu heater underneath and it’s perfect. I can work for many hours this way and my back hasn’t bothered me since we left my home country years ago. After watching your video I am going to try using the zaisu even less to strengthen my back. Thanks for the video!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks for sharing your experience! All the best!

[@FeyWyldPagan]

I wnjoy sitting on the floor with my back propped against something so i sont slump so much, but its difficult to get back up as I'm a big person. The last few months, ive been working on losing the weight now that I walk to and from work daily since moving closer to it. (Used to be 4 miles away, now less than 1 mile in 1 direction) Ive noticed my clothes feeling looser and im so happy about it, thought i struggle working in exercises to help with mobility/flexibility. Im aiming to be better for myself, each small step i take towards that goal. Thank you for sharing the journey of floor sitting and how uncomfortable it can be at first until you get used to it! Realistic but positive

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Sounds like you're on the right track! All the best in your health journey 💪💪

[@VladiDusil]

Hilariously, I am watching this video on my laptop, which sits on the same Ikea coffee table that was also lowered after seeing it in your videos years ago. Full circle. Thanks, you two!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks for still being here after all these years 🙌

[@Damglador]

Sitting on a floor sounds appealing for me, always did. And this video inspires getting a small table for PC to sit on a floor all day long

[@andrewstone7871]

Great, inspiring video. I have a desk that slots into gymnastic wall bars. Home- made, cheap simple desk. You can adjust the height from standing to sitting to squatting. Plus you get to use the wall bars for dead hanging, pull ups etc. works a treat.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

That sounds fantastic!

[@tynivinnie]

I remember watching your video when it first came out, and I knew there was going to be a follow up video about the ergonomics. Glad you made this since I bet a lot of people followed your footsteps before.

[@ponipepper115]

In college, I mostly sat on the floor. I hated sitting at a dresk (in my room) my desk instead became a nice storage area in my closet and I sat on my floor on pillows and blankets doing my homework on my lap.

[@aw2269]

Thank you. You have been an inspiration for many - this is really something! All best to you! Great videos and I really like your interior design.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thank you, we really appreciate it :)

[@maxnibler6090]

I sat on the floor with my desk for a couple years and really enjoyed it. I would be happy to go back to that if my living situation made that make sense

[@suzannemortimer9752]

As a teacher and then mother of very young children, I always sat on the floor or on tiny chairs. Then we had solid floors installed and I now find it too cold or hard on floor. I am 71. However tiny stools still work. My mother loved her comfy chair but could still get down on floor to play with young great grandchildren at the age of 100! I hope I have inherited her great genes! But yes as we age, sitting still for even half an hour results in stiff joints.

[@juanhai99]

This is so interesting. I knew sitting on the floor was very common in lot's of cultures, but I never actually consider it for my desk setup. Thanks for sharing!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Glad you enjoyed the video 💖

[@601AnnA106]

I like the overarching idea in this video - becoming stronger over weaker, and comfort where it doesn’t make you weaker

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

💪

[@33Jenesis]

I have a couple of floor desks that can be folded and put away, I can paint using the desk anywhere in the house. I have the wood Japanese Zaizu floor chairs with seat cushion (the chairs for tatami floor in Japan). I use this chair with the floor desk. I also sit on a bar stool with back when using my bar height task desk. My only sofa is a futon. The back is tall. The cotton stuffed mattress is firm and supportive. The seat depth is short for my petite height. I sleep half of the time on a hammock because it maintains better hip alignment as a side sleeper.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

👍

[@sarahbrand9747]

I continue to appreciate your videos for encouraging me to think critically about the ways in which I move through and exist in my day to day life. It can be easy to get complacent, and a lot of your videos cover lifestyle issues that wouldn't occur to a lot of people to think about, and the reasons why you do things like floor sitting are compelling. As someone who also has a bad back and a weak core, I think I'm going to experiment with slowly adding some floor sitting to my routine.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thank you so much for the kind comment! That's precisely the effect we hope our videos can have on viewers :) Best of health! 🫶

[@wenderis]

I've been playing, studying n then working on a computer sitting down on the floor for about 25 years. It is my default position (tbf, almost every student my generation in Indonesia study on the floor). Tried 'moving up' several times but never feel comfortable enough, I ended up sitting on a chair with awkward positions as if i'm sitting on the floor (ie: squatting, crossing legs, straight legs). I'd say, investing and experimenting on different kind of surfaces and floor mat for sitting on the floor could be so helpful and a lot of fun. There are times that hard floor (wood or even marble) feels better than softer material.

[@rosekopelowitz5069]

My husband and I sleep on a floor bed. When I was pregnant, I was able to sown on the floor and back up no problem. It was harder to tie my shoes than anything. I also had a very easy delivery. Postpartum wasn't fun tho 😅

[@bausHuck]

We have a nice soft floor mat in our lounge and comfortable recliners. My wife and I find ourselves switching between sitting on the floor and recliner. I think we both prefer the floor because it allows our son to walk up to us and interact with us when he wants company. My desk is a motorized desk that can change its height. But last year or so, I placed a small foot rest under the desk. It allows me to lift my feet and sit in a way that closer resembles sitting on the floor. I still have a bad habit of resting one foot on the other leg which can cause some ankle issues. Overall, having flexibility in my setup has helped me explore more ways to be comfortable and to switch between setups when pain arises (I am a labourer and have many back, knee, shoulder and wrist issues)

[@amediumdotarot]

Nossa! Q video enorme e prolixo. O tema é bem interessante, mas para q tanto tempo ?

[@iJerrrrrry]

Few years ago i got a floor desk in my room too (legs were cut off to fit my sitting position), also have a normal ergonomic chair for my more professional desk setup. Different use cases for each ❤ Neat video, more to think about than i would have thought!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks for sharing!

[@sarahradulovich5865]

I really like her outfits. I'm looking for some essentials for my wardrobe, and would love to hear your advice!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

That would be a fun video, but sometimes it feels like the outfit in this video is my only good outfit 😭

[@user-vi1dl3xg4g]

I loved sitting crossed legged like that for years, then it started after many years later.... my right toe thumb will be numb for a long time on the day I sat like that. I had to force myself to go back sit up right on a chair to fix that problem. Just sit whatever suits you, and if your neuron starts complaining, you'll know it is not right for you, and change asap before its gling to take more time to regain your balance

[@Karaon]

If you unscrew the seat from Ikea Jules chair it becomes an amazing floor sitting option, especially for outdoors as i's very easy to move around and stack them up. I take it to every festival and even use in my garden, sometimes even I place it on the floor when doing some plant work or whatever

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

That's a clever idea 👍

[@Kamasutrae]

I bought metal adjustable furniture Legs that can be as short a 9.8" and as tall as 17". So, that fixed the problem for adjusting the height of the table over the months :) I will be 3 years soon that I am working while sitting on the floor!

[@jaghaEm]

A few yearls ago I had my back problems and I could not sit on a office chairs. I decided to sit on a coffe table (my desk is on a tradicional high). For some convenience I use a meditacion pillow. . I recommend.

[@JanZamani]

In japan using thos kinds of chsirs and desks felt so cosy and comfortable, love the setup!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@Sleepyless]

Thanks for the inspo! I have to move around a lot while working but had nothing to go for sitting on the floor, my setup already covers standing/sitting/laying down

[@DeveStarr]

Brother, I must know. What is your laying down setup

[@MRSDAVID1]

as a short person i always face problems when buying chairs and table and sitting in them comfortable, my feet never reach the floor, so my back ends up hurting me., what i ended up doing is using foot rests to imitate a floor sitting position and this is still way better than having to do with only a chair on it's own. still find it better to sit on the floor as that strengthens the body because when sitting on a chair you're basically not putting that much effort getting on and off a chair, but it's still better than nothing, at least now i can straighten my back when i'm working.

[@hjordisoskarsdottir6873]

I started sitting on the floor in 2019 and it´s one of the best decisions I´ve ever made. Now when I stay with my parents and sit on their soft couch I really miss my floor chair and cushions.

[@Prizzy999]

I can so relate! I have an old soft couch that's literally destroying my back and I have to sit on the floor for a while every day to restore my back health.

[@acidification]

Whenever i am at my parents, they always question why i sit on the floor instead of sofa 😅

[@friedsoybean]

I guess sitting on the floor is almost like the norm here in some developing countries. We do have sofa for the guest, but for family time, TV time, my family will be sitting on the floor using plastic-woven carpet for hours. It's more relaxing, been like this for decades. Glad you two are comfortable with it!

[@dbwkdidwbsof]

finally, a good Singaporean youtube channel

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

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[@goblinjaskiniowy9083]

I used to work in a makeshift floor set up for a while after I moved and simply didn't have much furniture. I moved back to a chair after a while, my thinking was, if I have to move a lot on the floor, doesn't it mean it's not good for me? But you made me realize it's exactly the opposite. I think I will set it back up, and at least rotate with a chair. And now in retrospect, my back was fine when I did it. It has not been fine recently, though.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

All the best!

[@yunggolem4687]

Floor sit, chair sit, stand, crouch, walk, prone, supine. I alternate between them. You'll notice some positions are better for certain activities. Sitting for repetitive low effort tasks. Standing/crouching for non-creative writing & working with hands. Walking (low speed) for creative work, exploration & research. Prone/supine for relaxing/passive activities. Walking (high speed) for passive, non-relaxing activity.

[@Goooogle]

What do you mean by prone and supine positions for working? How does this look?

[@yunggolem4687]

@@Goooogle I said relaxing/passive activities for prone/supine. Which would be stuff like watching a video or reading for pleasure.

[@Goooogle]

@@yunggolem4687 you mean laying down?

[@vaizluca]

I love floor set ups. It is very very cozy! But many/most houses where I live in the usa are not designed for this set up making it feel less nice. like windows are at a height that allow you to see through them when sitting in a sofa or chairs of standard sizing. Have you considered things like this? Would love to see a video about how to make your "standard" home fit/feel more comfortable when paired with floor life. Any tips and tricks would be so nice!

[@Ttt-n1w]

first thoughts: mirrors, renovation, or building a higher level out of wood + paneling and placing storage cubbies underneath. The second floor could even be modular / portable for people renting.

[@vaizluca]

@@Ttt-n1w interesting idea. definitely love modular setups though building a second floor would make the space much smaller height wise and require a lot a lot of effort to build and design I imagine, especially if I were to do this throughout my home. Will see if there are companies out there for something like this. Wish there were more modular furniture/home design companies in the limelight! Thanks for the thought!

[@sarahb.6475]

Try renting a loft apartment. The ceiling here is 18 feet up. Even if you lose some space by building a moveable stage / surface it wouldn't matter much. What about using something like those milk crates you see and then cover it with a big wide hunk of that wood from the hardware store? Or a bunch of coffee tables tied together?

[@SirDrasticG]

i have been sitting on the floor ever since the elementary school, and i have been sitting on the floor for around 6 years with using the computer. My setup for it is that i lean on the wall, so rather than the table is on the wall side, it was in the middle of the room, i would move the table instead of moving in myself under the table.

[@BoalaHouse-n1p]

Omg, I can't wait to delve deeper into the details of your setup, you guys have been such an inspiration to me :D Also, I know you guys are not a tech channel, but perhaps you can make a vid about Glo's PC build. I'm really curious on how a minimalist would built a PC lol

[@memori365]

I second this. 😊

[@ClubPenguinDead]

Great video! Thanks for sharing! Also damn those desk setups are clean! Cable management looking spot on!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks for watching! We always touch up the cable management for a video (they don't always look that great) 😉

[@ClubPenguinDead]

@@ThoughtworthyCo hahaha yes, always tidy up before a shoot 😏

[@chrisgreiner854]

Awesome content! hurry up with the detailed floor setup videos, i want to setup my work desk in the next week! 🙂

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Oof, don't think we'll make it in time for next week! 😄

[@gabiedubin]

the setup looks very aesthetic tbh, nice interior design.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks!

[@1991daybreak]

2nd year into floor seating! Ever since discovered you guys, been alright so far! Really up to individual level of comfort and disruption required!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

That's great! Hope it continues to go well ✨

[@AgentThursday]

We were not made for comfort. We were made for greatness.

[@Essiggurke-r2h]

since I left school I have not sat on a chair normally.. i always sit on my feet on the chair, have one foot up on the chair, knee against my chet, etc. at one workplace we had a physio / healthcare specialist come in to inspect our office / workplace and he asked me to sit how i normally sit and I showed him. he was trying to figure out if my chair was th right hight, but commented that probably sitting in different positions ins more healthy than the normal chair setup

[@SlothComplex]

Apologies if someone has already said this, but why configure the desks to be able to slide, rather than having to move the seat to the desk? I have an adjustable standing desk and a stationary chair, I put slides on the desk which moves it towards me when I sit in the chair. The benefit is I can also move the desk all the way to the wall behind it (should note it requires long enough cables) and use the ottoman to sit on for more intense work, or I can adjust the desk to a standing position, moving the ottoman under it and out of the way. I constantly move between these configurations, so it's great to know that I'm not some weirdo that can't sit in one place for very long. I do like your setup though, and it feels like it'd be a small investment to give a floor desk a try. I've never been able to sit comfortably on a floor, but the sitting cushion and the floor chairs with backs may be worth a shot. Thanks for the video!

[@chiffonkek2]

While I don’t sit on the floor, I use a saddle chair on my desktop setup to tackle being sedentary. So far it’s working but I need more time with it. The saddle chair frequently reminds me to correct my posture or move around or switch to standing desk mode so I won’t end up hyperfocusing into whatever I’m doing and remain in the same posture for aeons.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

👍

[@cmarriotti]

It's incredible how effective this video is. I watched it for the first time three days ago and am now sitting at my new floor desk setup for the first time! Thanks for the inspiration.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Hope you're enjoying it!

[@pavelluzanov3157]

hi! thanks for your video again, I had some back pain too while was sitting in the legged chairs often, then accidentally I stumbled upon your video - which does really helped me to move my lifestyle down in height but up in quality 😄 I don't think you can tell more than you've already told - everyone interested must experiment and try it to themselves, rather than asking exact measurements or recipes Cheers from Tokyo and best of luck on your journey 🖤

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

True! And "down in height but up in quality", think we'll be stealing that 😆

[@pavelluzanov3157]

@@ThoughtworthyCo sure

[@divinenonbinary]

The “meditation” sitting posture is when my back feels MOST comfortable. No chair can recreate that. So all I see are people enjoying their life in the most comfortable setup available

[@scribbear]

I'm so glad you're still at it. I've also been trying to do some work on the floor. My back feels a little stronger after a while, but I still have some questions: 1. I always need my arms to get on the floor and get back up - but i've seen some people are more flexible and can do it without. Are there any exercises to get to that level? 2. Some positions you use most often and what is important when you use them would be nice, as I have found myself doing the same 2-3 positions all the time - I think there is room for improvement there 3. A video of your favorite floor chairs/furniture to sit on would be nice - I'm always thinking of buying a Zaisu floor chair but not sure thank you! looking forward to your next video 😊

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks for the questions! We'll keep them in mind and try to answer them in future videos 🙌

[@vacafuega]

For 1, you might like primal/animal movement videos! There are quite a few on KZbin now, it's pretty closely related to capoeira in some respects so floor capoeira drills would also be good. I've found yoga really helpful too, sun salutations particularly. For 2 I'd suggest looking into PRI exercises like from Conor Harris, the principles will get you thinking about imbalances in your body and how you can vary your posture to bring some balance to your body position overall, open up the tight spots, strengthen the looser areas, etc. I've found the awareness that comes from his videos really useful to understand why things feel a certain way and most importantly what will actually help long-term.

[@xcountryrunner9]

Wow just like i started sleeping on a harder surface recently and loving it, i may try this too at some point!!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Good luck!

[@HoboGardenerBen]

I work as a gardener so I can deep squat much of the day, I can engage the ground a lot better than most people. I also live as a hobo and camp out and have spent many many hours on the ground drinking coffee. I don't find it to be nearly as comfortable as a good chair, like the driver's seat in my Prius. That chair is muchbetter than long hours sitting on the ground. But to be fair, I didn't have a sweet little ground chair with a back, being able to lean back and relax the psoas is key. Best chair I have ever used is one of those ground level video game rocking chairs because they allow you to move to prevent stiffness while keeping the back supported in whatever angle you are. Bean bag chairs are nice too. Not great for a work flow, but I think standing desks make more sense for that anyways. Maybe an adjustable angle desk thing would allow a bean bag work flow, don't know, haven't tried on out. So many more positions you can get into while standing. Alternating one leg up on something is key. I love having all sorts of platforms around me while standing long hours so I can stretch my legs in every direction while still being able to read or whatever. I work as a cashier so I am standing all day and have found this variety of movement to keep me completely pain-free. I am looser at the end of the work day than the beginning because I stretch and pandiculate the entire time. I also work as a gardener and find that getting my body into so many positions loosens me up throughout the day, I feel better at the end of the day than the morning unless I moved something too heavy for me, might get a little sore from that. We need movement, so I'm glad you have found ways to bring that into your life. Still looks kinda sad to me, way too much time inside. Rugs and other surfaces off-gas all sorts of nasty chemicals so you breath that instead of nice fresh air and getting sunlight on your skin.

[@mmmdlwpo]

Great to see your review on this set-up after these years! I remember the previous video and it inspired me to buy the same desk from Ikea. While I’ve had the same desk for the last few years… I still haven’t cut the legs off… Maybe it’s time for this next step

[@hubey]

Apparently knees need to be at a lower angle than the hips for the spine to auto align. On the floor can do this with a taller sitting cushion, or a sitting micro stool in the cross legged position. There are also kneeling stools that allow you to have your feet under your bumb without sitting on them. There are also chairs that offer the same kneeling position to use at standard table height.

[@judylloyd7901]

...bum*...😂😂😂

[@SamG.Trotter]

Yes that’s absolutely right. This is the ideal, ‘pain free’ position for long meditation sessions too. Higher cushions- pelvic bone tilt n knees lowers than the hips.

[@JebleKT]

I studied furniture design only to realise that chairs are so bad for your back that it shocked me , of course back strength is the key , and sitting with good posture an element . But for your hips and legs sitting on the floor is what every good chiropractor will tell you to do as often as possible. Love your work and brilliant you are sharing the truth.

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks!

[@jiminsducky]

Yes! I'd love a video on how to sit at a floordesk! A question I have concerning that would be, is it better to slowly transition into a floordesk, and with that, sitting on the floor, or would slowly transitioning be better/easier to get used to?

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

We'll keep that question in mind! But generally it really depends on the individual, although it's never a bad idea to slowly transition and see how your body feels :)

[@jessicakok3876]

I live in a studio where its only 280sft. It was shaped like a rectangular box when you come into the the house and there is only one big window at the end of the shorter wall, opposite the main door. Moving in, I knew I didn't want big furnitures as it would make my living space way smaller and block a lot of the window area, so my game plan was to try to do use small furnitures and keep the space wide by having furnitures low to the ground to allow as much light into the house. It was also real nice not having furnitures blocking the window view as I had a great view of the city. So in the end, my mattress was directly on the floor and I had a two seater bean bag as a couch, for lounging. My dining set up was pretty much using the foldable laptop table that I got from Ikea and sitting on the carpeted floor to eat. I do however, have a desk to sit up comfortably to work long hours or game. But growing up in my culture, we did sat on the floor a lot. It was a common practice and even my father, grandparents or any aunts and uncle would come over and sit on the floor if there wasn't enough couch space - since we were a big family. I would say, sitting cross-legged and chilling on the floor is such a common thing that I never found it uncomfortable. To be honest, sometimes I sleep on bare floor too if I have back pain or cramps as harder surfaces forces me to correct my posture a lot more xD

[@mkonji8522]

Hello from Kyoto, I do think a slim monitor mount to raise your monitor up some would help. I have a similar setup to you for over the last 7 years.

[@uahnbu]

I really enjoy sitting on a blanket without any back supporter recently, Basically it's like sitting on the floor but with more comfort, so less movement tho, and I still suffer from prolonged sitting quite a lot.

[@LordJashin]

I don't sit on the floor, but I sit on my computer chair with my legs under me or in a crouching position. It's kinda like sitting on the floor, but on a chair. Im quite tall and have long limbs and my positions make my lover back hurt. Sometimes in get in so much pain I cannot walk for the rest of the day. I work on my computer and also spend a lot of my free time on it so it's becoming a bigger problem every year.

[@happytofu5]

Uugh I do the same! I just can't sit "normal", that is so uncomfortable. I do stretching and a bit of yoga in the morning to counter back pain, but my shoulder area gets tense so quickly.

[@yasharkurdi]

one of my friends was sitting on the chair like you , he got osteoporosis and neurological issues with his lage bc of pressure of the pressure of the fact that he was putting on legs.

[@memori365]

Your first video about floor desk setup had me researching for months. I was on a tight budget and the Lisbo desk from IKEA is small for me. I bought another table from IKEA and bought the legs from Amazon. Like you I had trouble finding the right height for the desk legs. I thought of buying something similar to Muji chair. I settled with what I already have: my thick blankets that keep me warm in Canadian 🇨🇦 winter. It worked but I am still keeping an eye for a better chair. For now I am happy to say that I can actively sit (that is I am aware of how my posture affects comfort/discomfort) and adjust my position accordingly. Thanks for the update. And looking forward to more updates (including about barefoot shoes).

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thanks for sharing your experience! More videos to come 🫶

[@whitneybrown4067]

Yesss n This is Gonna b so Informative TWC🔥🔥🔥👍n Happy Saturday😀!!!….

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

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[@SukrinoRahman]

Could you guys do a desk setup tour? I am keen to do a smiliar setup for both me and my wife.

[@lurleanhunt9335]

I love this! As someone with a house full of furniture that usually ends up sitting on the floor. I see a garage sale in my future to get rid of some of my furniture 😁

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Sounds like a future with more space in the house, and some extra cash 😁

[@PotValiants]

Actually I've slept on the floor for 2 years when I was younger everyday when I was initially working as an on site project coordinator. It helped so much with waking up (maybe cause of the body not getting too used to the floor). I don't find this harmful for my body or anything, in fact a lot of positive outcome with my work and life balance instead of always being anxious about not being able to sleep and wake up on time. Nowadays it's just my go to for adjusting my sleep by laying on the floor

[@WanderTrust]

cool! I've been looking for a rolling chair i can sit cross legged in...and now I'm like...maybe i don't need the chair 👀 I've been using a kneeling chair for the last 3 years, and it's pretty great! It might be a good in between for people intrigued by this idea. Not having a backrest prevents me from slouching too much but being in a partial kneeling motion is pretty accessible! My shins felt a little bruised in the beginning but now I don't notice. You can find these chairs on market place because people try it and don't like it right away...lol However the kneeling chair doesn't offer much variation, thus why I'm looking for a cross legged option :) And floors are free!

[@tangerinebreath]

I'm looking forward to your videos on how to sit on the floor! We don't have a sofa so we sit on the floor at home to relax. I'm also curious about how to get up and sit down safely, back strengthening exercises (I tend to slouch after a while), and any other stretching routines you might have (esp for back and shoulders).

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Noted!

[@RajGiandeep]

I've been sitting on the floor using a small laptop stand for about 7 years. I recommend a laptop stand that is height adjustable so your keyboard & mouse are at a good angle. Then for laptop, get a Aluminum Laptop Stand that elevates the screen to your eye level. I love it, keeps my hips open, back got used to it pretty quickly. I sleep on the floor as well on a 3" firm futon. I love not having a large bed that take up the whole room, I can fold it & put it to the side. Then the laptop side is very small & doesn't take up much room. I would never buy a full desk setup again.

[@MoPoppins]

How about adding sliders on the bottom of the chair, as well as a disk or swivel?

[@Randomcomment7699]

If possible can you guys share table size .. great work subscribed❤

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

They're IKEA Lisabo coffee tables :) Check out thoughtworthy.co/favorites for more info.

[@yuzik01]

I sit on the floor while doing jigsaw puzzles, but in the worst ways possible - either cross-legged, kneeling or in various sideways twists, of course leaning over the puzzle and when I get immersed I don't change positions until my legs start to hurt, so my lower back is always the first to go and then getting up also makes me groan and think I'm getting too old for this... I'm not even 30. I always liked being on the floor since I was little, it's comfy and natural, there's a lot more space for activities than on the table, you can lie down anytime you want... But maybe not all hope is lost yet! I need to get myself one of those floor chairs, they look so comfy and like it would really help with the transition for a weak back. Thank you for the tips. And btw your minimalist space looks beautiful!

[@ThoughtworthyCo]

Thank you!