Threat Changes Clarified and Azerite Balance going forward

[@dan240393]

When I first started playing WoW it was a massive breathe of fresh air compared to other MMO's that I'd played, because it presented all of the information that I needed. Flat numbers, percentage modifiers, probabilities (sometimes), the whole kit and caboodle; it was great. Then they progressively made it less and less clear and explanatory (rather than just giving us a version of the old "Advanced Tooltips" option). They have gone backwards by about a decade in terms of the quality of their tooltips and stats. Which is awful, especially for a game about collecting numbers and stats. Next expansion "Lightning Bolt: _Has a chance of doing a thing. To a target. Somewhere. Maybe._ "

[@Theseus.Schulze]

just commenting to let you know I thought it was "kitten caboodle"

[@jorgetinoco3574]

Another reason where Blizzard is catering to the casual playerbase, the ones who do not read and don't care about mechanics - I mean they are literally trying to close these gaps, but what they don't realize is that they are hurting the overall game.

[@James_Johnson79]

Pretty sure that means you started in Wrath. Prior to that everything was really opaque with lots of questions about what made sense. I remember trying to add spirit to my gear in BC since I thought it meant my warrior would spend less time eating between fights.

[@DraphEnjoyer]

Ironically Vanilla was simpler than how the game is now and it was a better game for it. The concept of "talk to guy, do thing and get XP" was revolutionary compared to EQ or Ultima where I had to fight people over spawns

[@shr1neCS]

Theseus Schulze boneappletea

[@FrostyJ85]

Great Job Preach. But I honestly have never heard Preach feel so tired about the game like this. BfA and it's systems have been so jarring and dissapointing.

[@itskhro]

I can totally see why he feels tired. Both raid and mythic+ cache loot, which are the only viable rewards for a mythic raider, are completely RNG based. At the same time, you HAVE to farm the boring and otherwise weak content only to get a higher HoA level to get those final traits. TL;DR: Farm endlessly for A CHANCE at getting an upgrade.

[@Doctor_Tumnus]

@@itskhro You act like this wasn't the case for the majority of the game's lifespan.

[@FrostyJ85]

@@Doctor_Tumnus because it wasn't.... there has never been a time in this games history where the loot or gearing system has been this broken.

[@itskhro]

Well it was not. With masterlooter you knew if you were next in line for a tierpiece or a trinket, you knew your entire raid would eventually have all the stuff before those last bosses fell. And Mythic+ was introduced in Legion. Azerite was introduced in BfA as an additional piece of RNG within the already RNG gear, hence all the weekly cache item quantity drama. It was not always like this. Think things over before you try smugposting :>)

[@Doctor_Tumnus]

@@itskhro If anything you have way more gear sources than any previous expansion :>)

[@Aatrixx]

Hey Asmon. I know you’re going to watch this video since you’re Running out of content omegalul.

[@NecroticRampage]

'That's true. He's right. Listen, this is big. Yeah.'

[@gautamxd7153]

facts

[@beeman4266]

running out of content a month after BfA releases.. goes to show how little there is to do in BfA. yikes

[@libertyprime9891]

Asmonmold is the loa of filth.

[@joeym3147]

Are you a boy or a girl?

[@linziandscotty]

First time ive ever heard preach sound so disappointed in warcraft and the dev team. What really pisses me off is that preach and some of the top end players who really care for the game and the gameplay are just flat out being ignored. As are the community as a whole. I get the feeling Not just Ion but the entire team are now saying "its our game this is how you play it, we know whats best."

[@Aj9Livess]

in the blizzcon 2005 panel, Jeff Kaplan and the little team of nerds at the time said "It's your game too, and if we feel like we messed up as a team, then we have to go back and fix it." I know times have changed a lot since then but thinking back makes me shed a manly tear

[@TheRobochicken5494]

Jeff is the best.

[@ConcealedCourier]

Last time I heard preach talk like this.. it was the day they killed WoD.

[@TheMorrok]

I'm starting to feel like they're letting content and balance decisions be run through Bungie now... wtf

[@drakedbz]

I remember a time when all blizz did was cater to the people crying on the forums, and there was a change in philosophy from much of the player base that they should just make the game how they want it, because it was better when they did. Now we've come full circle!

[@TriceratopsUnicorn]

Are they ruining live to build hype for classic?

[@jrzez]

Yep, they're trying to kill off live, and they're doing a great job at it. Game is a dumpster fire right now.

[@pmkaboo2446]

im not sure where you get the confidence that classic isnt going to end up being just as rushed and unfinished as bfa.

[@NecroticRampage]

My bags are full of trash which I can't get rid of because it might become gold at random. The spec which is best for me changes every week. I can't target what I need to do well making progress a lottery. I'm used to wow being boring, I'm not used to wow being unfinished. I'm quickly losing motivation.

[@egcliks]

agreed. This fking crap of farming for BIS gear and then that same gear being nurfed to shit is annoying. Its like its almost BiS to just quit until mid say through expac to come back and hope Azerite Gear will be fixed. And those damn simulation shit doesn't work. Dagger in the back BiS next to Uldir traits? WTF

[@ConcealedCourier]

Same spot. Barely got ten spots for trash. Bank bags are full, much of it unutilized az armor. Cant commit cant disenchant with all the craziness. Let my subscription die last night.

[@jerseyjunior]

just sell the shit and stop trying to overthink the game, something better than everything u have is coming (as always)

[@NecroticRampage]

@@jerseyjunior Yes, the answer is to farm random drops again. That will save time.

[@Kaylep1]

So while we are playing beta why does blizz not remove the reforge costs so that we dont have to spend thousands of gold to figure out whats the best trait after the 10th hotfix?

[@promethieos1875]

Dude for real swapping traits 4 time brings the cost up to like 2,400 gold+ per GeForce. Like that's insane

[@gametenor]

SimYoSelf, will save u a lot of gold.

[@dylanezell1423]

gametenor the point is that theBiS traits keep changing.

[@Luminated]

I was literally thinking about this! The BiS traits right now don't exist because the gear is constantly being changed... If they don't want to remove the gold spending at least make it a set amount of gold to reforge

[@Shan-js3hn]

@@gametenor I do that and I've been swapping traits every week. And swapping between m+ and raids. The price is absurd.

[@enemyuav8809]

Long time Call Of Duty Player here..... Oh I can see ACTIVISION pouring through this

[@sabersswords]

Preach my man ty for the content and for everything you do for the community.

[@copypastemyname]

Ok that's it. It has become obvious to me now that his expansion was rushed as much as fucking possible. The amount of polish lacking from multiple aspects of the game is jarring. We have overtuned/undertuned mythic and mythic+ mechanics, including raw dmg, mobs killing themselves in Freehold, teeming packs being downright ridiculous etc. We have unfinished class designs for shamans and spriests. Pet ai is completely busted in some cases.There are Soul shard generation bugs. We have visual bugs everywhere, along with buggy herb nodes and ore nodes. "Stuck in combat" bug is still here for fuck sake. And last but not least we have an Azerite trait system that is wide as an ocean and deep as a pond. And on top of that, trying to maximize gear and trait combinations is becoming fucking torture because they are getting revamped on a weekly basis. I would be fine with this if Blizzard was an indie company and not a multi-billion dollar one. Edit: i forgot to mention unexplained fps drops, even with high end systems...

[@jerseyjunior]

amen, brother

[@Kaleestraza]

Not to mention that the Alliance got placeholders for mounts and shitty, vanilla-like questing experiences. Never seen this unfinished nature in WoW before...

[@copypastemyname]

You know what, at start i didn't hate the questing. But at some point i realized that every quest hub actually gave you roughly the same thing, kill 12 of these things, gather 8 of these things, kill a big named mob in the area, go to next quest hub.

[@hogi2599]

@@copypastemyname Thats how the Quests of WoW have been like for the last 14 years but sure yes. ^^ Still the zones and their stories are good the problems come from the endgame and the azerite system. Still I have fun playing the game.

[@copypastemyname]

Yes the stories were decent i guess. But the quests? No they were not the same. WE used to have insane questlines that took you from a mysterious letter from a random assassin out in the Wetlands, up to finding the real king of Stormwind imprisoned in a random island after 20 quests. You had attunements that, while admittedly not for everyone, still gave a sense of progress. You can say that Outland quests are just as boring, but i personally got bored of them only 10 alts later. Outland, through its entirety had the prevailing theme of the Burning Legion and Illidan's rule and how it shaped the world, heavily tied to the best lore of the franchise. Take any old zone especially after the Cataclysm revamp and you will notice that they actually have invested a lot of time into the zone and what is happening in it (Ashenvale, Stonetalon Mountains for instance). As the game progresses and especially post Cataclysm questing has been pushed aside as a chore to get fast to max lvl and then abandon it... i mean come on, we saved the entire planet and we killed the Titan of Death and now we are literally sent to gather hyena dung. I miss zones like Uldum, or zones like Storm Peaks that were actually designed for questing while flying, those ones had a lot of creativity in them. Suramar and Val'sharah had good narratives aswell. As of BFA zones, pushing aside the fact that the stories are faction specific, so you can experience them separately of each other, the entire story of all three horde/alliance zones is actually one questline-worth of material, bloated to feel like three zones. At least this is how it felt to me, might be just personal burnout.

[@williamarthurfenton1496]

They are wasting such an absurd amount of resources messing around with the azerite system.

[@Citizen0597]

Both you and @Preach Gaming are fighting both sides of the war. If they make dynamic changes every week you complain people are forced to keep up. They make no changes and people complain they can only use 1 trait or that their class is broken. In the middle you get both. Some classes become stale others need to keep up. Im not trying to say Blizzard didn't fuck up the Azerite system. It was an immense amount of their time and fell flat, but I would rather them try to make all the changes early on and quickly, in order to balance, then focus on making the newer content intriguing. My point is, you are negative because of the original source. If the changes are in the right direction be happy about those don't just bash regardless.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

It's like the Azerite system should've have happened in BFA. And they should just remove it. >.

[@drayosstormrage5885]

Azerite system feels like a more boring version of the Legendary system of legion. It had its complaints.. but the legendary system really did give you choice of what you did and didn't need and excelled in different content... this Azerite gear just seems another RNG Wheel of if u get good or bad traits which not only sit on continuous balances and changes but changes nothing gameplay wise... they might aswell scrap it at this point I don't think itd remove any content and finally let some of the current content be rebuilt into stand alone content. such as IEs and WFs.

[@Hakimist-Empenadaist]

Jamie Moe the problem is Azerite traits in the first place. They made 40, that's 40 different traits per class! They were supposed to be different and varied and have a noticable effect on how your class plays. Instead they all have an (unknown) "chance!!" to do damage or other very similar nonsense. Now such boring effects were also imbalanced so some did a fuck-ton more damage then others, so obviously people put quite a lot of time farming specific mythic 0's to get them. But now they are balancing them to be also the same?? What's the point of having 40 different traits per class then if they all do the same thing? They could have achived the same thing by adding tier sets and have it funcion a certain (fun) way per class, like we have always had! Azerite is like the fucking garrisons from WoD. Too much time spent on a "outlandish" idea "bold new move strategy" and exactly 0 execution on how to make the whole godammned new system not look like a colossal fuck up.

[@Citizen0597]

Brian Adams Vladimir Nikolic I agree im just saying dont rant about the changes when the changes are fine. its the original system thats fucked in the first place.

[@Kim-tr5op]

how to play wow. find the worst dmg-wise spec, then pick the worst traits. get buffed later = profit

[@Wooawzers]

If only that method worked for us shamans

[@Diryala5]

the long con

[@Birch19547]

Yet enhancement was within the top 5 for single target all of 8.0

[@Lindyn773]

until you pick shadow priest, where blizz is just trying to wait them out so they can delete the spec all together

[@Kim-tr5op]

Woawzers yup. totally sucks

[@smodeste92]

I find it interesting that blizzard doesn't want people relying on third party websites but at the same time is withholding info in game from us. If you want us to stop using third party websites then maybe make stuff clear in game. Blizzard seems to be confused.

[@Buggabones]

So they basically spent 2 years building a gun so they can shoot themselves? gg blizz

[@vanqqish1]

Rather they spent 1 and a half years procrastinating in building their gun and the last 6 months they rushed it together so badly that it backfired in their face.

[@glenndiddy]

I'd always opt for advanced tooltips because I like to know everything down to the damage scaling of abilities. I would love it if mortal strike said: " deals 680 + (weapon damage * x) + (strength * y) damage". In other news, I want the old stats back, where I could see movement speed, parry dodge, resistances, hit, expertise, spell damage, ranged attack damage I want all of it. I love having all the stats about my character

[@Nooctae]

Don't you remember the AMA answer about azerite traits not having proper informations on them ? How Ion said people don't need to know.. mocking people by saying " would you pull out a piece of paper and do maths ? " I don't get it. By trying to simplify the game they keep making it more difficult for people to even knoiw what's going on.

[@pilkepilke9048]

I personally think that Blizzard will be adding a way to see more complex tooltips in game since it is a system Diablo 3 has and following the recent trend of similarities between these games (World Quests - Contracts, Paladin skills - Crusader skills, Legion legendaries - Legendaries in D3, and so on) its implementation could be expected.

[@hometownblinds]

Honestly, they could easily take the hastle out of Azerite gear if it was more easily available. WE should be able to farm m+ for BiS pieces, it would be a tangible, worthwhile carrot a lot of players would chase. This would give us re playable content worth doing. Instead, we get slapped in the face week to week changing our current gear to be utterly useless. Lets return to Rewards for effort, not RNG and hot fixes to a broken system. If i wanted to chase something illusive i would go play the lottery. Please fix your game blizzard. I love Wow. But man, where is the fun?!

[@FlesHBoX]

Legion Players: Some of the legendaries are REALLY cool! But the aquisition of them is REALLY bad and frustrating! BfA Blizz: We heard you hate legendaries, so we removed them, but here's azerite gear with much less interesting effects, and we've decided to make the aquisition quite similar in effect to how Legendaries in Legion were acquired. BfA Players: /headdesk

[@Valkaneer]

The need to bring back the "Threat Builder system". We use to have High, Med, and Low threat builders. But not all high threat builders were high DPS skills such as "Sunder Armor". This way you can have a low DPS tank in a raid who can hold threat, and that same tank can have good DPS out of the raid. Also, tanks can then start to pick and choose whether to use high DPS skills or high threat Skills. This is the skill gap between a great tank and an ok tank.

[@sirkoltas4087]

Thank you preach for speaking up. I cant stress enough how much I appreciate having your voice out there.

[@Yarzu555]

If they keep making players more apathetic towards their systems like gear, quests, professions and other content; eventually people will become apathetic to the game itself which is what we're seeing finally come to head.

[@DrMAngelo]

Wow the beta is still going on? I thought bfa launched weeks ago

[@OrmusEnormous]

Don't worry, 8.1 will fix everything.

[@steveaustin4118]

Someone has to much faith or sarcasm

[@OrmusEnormous]

Sarcasm. Also Island Expeditions are exciting: they have dynamic weather effects to provide a unique experience each time you play

[@alex-dh8zy]

digging this new clean format/ look you got going on. Well articulated points too.

[@joemagill4041]

Not being told how to use a hammer or a screwdriver doesn't make building a chest of draws more fun, it makes it frustrating, annoying and ultimately demoralizing. Making stuff difficult, annoying and unintuitive, removing clear information and leaving players wondering if something is an intended effect or a bug is never and will never be good game design.

[@paullatina7413]

It’s odd, I didn’t mind the ap grind in legion because it somehow affected the way I played. The artifact trees felt so alive compared to this azerite garbage. I barely do any content other than level alts at this point because I refuse to grind this necklace and world quests feel yucky this time. Seriously considering unsubbing right now which would be earlier than any version of the game yet. Sad. Also, this kind of scaling sucks....I never feel powerful, regardless of gear, when I’m trying to kill a raccoon...

[@gametenor]

Lol dude, it's funny but it's sad and true too 😐

[@battle-brotherthiel1563]

Talents haven felt alive since Cata tho....plus all this azerite armor and the removal of tier sets . Makes WoW feels less WoW

[@TheRexTera]

Wasn't there a basic and advanced tooltip option in the game at some point before Blizzie removed it?

[@luketfer]

Yes there was.

[@alexashton6501]

Lets make the 40+ Azerite traits all equal so theres absolutely 0 point in having 40 in the first place... good job Blizzard

[@daytonpannell]

Perfect example of this lack of information on a tooltip... Vengeance DH talent Soul Barrier. Tooltip says that you consume all souls nearby and increase the absorb by x amount for each soul. What it doesn't say is that souls you absorb after activation continue to add that x amount to your absorb as long as you still have the buff.

[@fredrick1176]

Dayton Pannell as a M+ dh tank, I’m glad I now know this info. Shame blizzard thinks so little of its community.

[@daytonpannell]

@@fredrick1176 that's really the only thing ive noticed with our toolkit. But I run Soul Barrier and I would argue that its better than what people give it credit for. Same goes for our azerite traits. I stack gaping maw and soul monger. Most will say that's terrible. But that's how I like to play and it works for me.

[@silverspear21]

Warmode is too vague and makes it seem like even gear from wq will be buffed up to 10%.

[@Hakimist-Empenadaist]

Wow, I actually did not fucking know this. Gg blizz, ty mate

[@MichieMouse1]

I like the idea of basic and advanced descriptions. That should be a thing for everything, from spells to the dungeon journal...

[@MaloshaFTW]

Preach sound sad. Damnit blizz, you broke Mike.

[@barachiel212]

Well, my sub was going to renew tomorrow, but I cancelled it. I can tolerate many things, and be patient while devs fix things, but I *loathe* devs who intentionally obfuscate game mechanics. Not only that, their explanations are nonsensical and poorly thought out to the point where I honestly wonder if anyone on the Live Team has ever played the Live Game and not just a private test instance. Because it's clear these people are completely disconnected not just from their player base, but reality in general. Even that wouldn't be enough to drive me away by itself, but with the just god awful Azerite gear system currently in place, I have no interest in hopping on the gear grind treadmill for the forseeable future. I honestly don't think the endgame loot system can be saved until the Next Big Thing comes around and replaces Azerite. Best case scenario, it'll be Legendaries all over again where the devs ignored the feedback of the community until the next to last patch of the expansion. I'll think I'll just save my money, take a 1.5 year break from the game, and let Blizzard figure out WTF it's doing.

[@TheMexicancommunist]

Dropped out of mythic raiding this week, couldn't put my finger on what I didn't like until I stopped playing. You summed a lot of it up here, the constant changes on azerite gear and the low impact of its nature is such a far cry from the peak of Legion with legendaries. I played a mage, the loss of choice from end of legion fire (in particular) and frost to the BFA iterations is huge

[@FredsRandomFinds]

Whole expansion is a complete shitshow at the moment. And if you're not raiding you may as well look elsewhere because there isn't much to do...

[@Lyubomir1984]

"Hello, everybody" ?!?!?!? wtf ? We're not ballers anymore ?

[@alestergrey8232]

Preacher is so burned out and upset that he can't even pretend to be hyped about the game no more.

[@0verpwned]

I think the taunt change has a negative side effect that tanks will understand. In my raid team I currently have a blood dk, and a guardian druid (bless his soul) as our main tanks. We cleared normal and everything was fine but as we progressed into heroic we are running into a problem. As the blood dk gets better gear, he is doing substantially more dps than our bear tank. This is causing him to take aggro off of our bear tank during tank swaps. Our druid is currently using taunt during swaps and then trying to fit a maul in before switching back to mitigation, but some classes aren't able to do both. Guardian druids and prot warriors have to choose whether to spend their primary resource on dps or mitigation, most other tank classes can do both seamlessly. I think this taunt nerf is going to severely affect certain lower dps tanks.

[@pmkaboo2446]

they just removed the information about the extra threat from the tooltip, but it still works the same way.

[@0verpwned]

Actually they nerfed the threat boost from 500% to 300%, but yeah they didn't gut taunt all together. Still not a very good change imo. My original comment was more about the disparity in dps between tanks. Tanks like death knights are able to output high dps while mitigating because their mitigation is offensive. Bear tanks have to choose whether to do damage or to mitigate, this creates a massive difference in tank damage throughout a fight and tank threat can be directly tied to their damage. That's more my qualm with the current balance stage.

[@aaronmehlberg4333]

Having the advanced tooltips in the spellbook would be the easiest way to go as it provides a great source of reference that's barely ever used, similar to the map in dungeons and raids after the encounters are learned. This would also provide an opportunity for Blizzard to have a spot that lets players know that changes were made to an ability in some way by highlighting each ability that has had a change made to it, similar to how your spellbook and ability is highlighted when first learning it. Changes in game systems regarding the player's character shouldn't fight the player.

[@demoneyesrakka]

These constant changes, hotfixes, and balance issues, are all reasons my friends and I don't play a new expansion until a couple months after launch. Hell, we didn't play Cata together until Firelands was out, or Legion until Tomb of Sargeras was well underway. Just not worth all the stress. My heart goes out to you Preach, because you and all the other World of Warcraft youtube creators whose job hangs in the balance of this mire of a game have got to be feeling it.

[@Allods132]

They specifically removed Advanced Tooltips at some point, the option was ingame at some point, and still exists with the AdvancedInterfaceOptions addon

[@Billy-vb3qq]

What are you guys maining? Having no fun with any of the classes I’m playing, warrior, mage. I play pvp and some m+ nothing hardcore. I’d like to have a tank spec too. I don’t want play DH either.

[@Matkub92]

Druid is pretty cool as a tank. Not the best atm but not prot warrior level either

[@Arphalia]

Brewmaster Monk is really solid and the tank that is most fun for me

[@Kissthefisters]

Was gonna suggest monk, all three specs are solid right now and will probably remain solid through BFA.

[@hypermelon_8654]

I dony know why but people likes new warrior. I hate how all specs of warr plays after legion.

[@stonerkebab9498]

Billy I‘ve already played 4 characters to 120 and through some low M+ and so far im not enjoying any of them enough to want to push them anywhere challenging.. might just use BfA to get my pool of characters up instead, i guess

[@sassysass9510]

So they realized the majority of the player base doesn’t read anything so they took information out of the game to solve that? That’s like saying, “Man my kid is dumb...better not give them any books.”

[@zaboe911]

Love the idea of the advanced tool tip function! That would be awesome.

[@Sight0fDawn]

Isn't there already a detailed tooltip option? I think right now it just adds numbers but small additional effects could be rolled into that

[@gilmoreja]

Maybe I'm remembering this wrong -- but years ago didn't we have an advanced tooltips setting in the options that was eventually axed?

[@Jaigarful]

Another thing I'm concerned about is sims just being wrong. We had a massive bug in Shadow Priest sims that completely sunk Chorus of Insanity damage, and it got fixed and sims pushed it to the top. I'm putting a lot of faith into these sims because some of the effects are impossible to measure in game, and I don't like that.

[@PinHeadSupliciumwtf]

Because nothing of anything is transparent fucking proc descriptions make pissed every time I get a trinket

[@olitold]

1. Too many places to get gear. Such as LFR, WQ's, Pvp giving a ton of gear and Warfronts (may have forgotten a place or 2). and the randomness of the items/stats has caused this issue, this includes warforging and titanforging. This needs to be adjusted and war/titan forging removed. Vendors added in and a weekly cap on currency to acquire such gear. None of the other sources should give you gear that is as good or better than the raid. Like I stated above, too much gear equals huge problems for balancing and sends our numbers sky rocketing. 2. You are right about the tool tips and info being hidden and instead of removing the info, just add in an option for advanced tool tips. Very good video dude.

[@kevinrex7414]

I unsubed for the first time in years. I just can’t take the slow down in gameplay and the lack of a 120 talent row. I understand the slow down is meant to narrow the gap between good and bad players and good and bad computers. I really disagree with that game design. I also disagree with the azerite gold scaling design and see it as blizz’s avarice on full display. Bfa is worth a one time payment, not a recurring payment. I’ll resub in 2020 or 2021, but only if they speed up the gameplay.

[@12oxspring]

Play fury, once you have decent haste and weapon enchants the speed of gameplay can get quite crazy, especially in raids

[@TheRobochicken5494]

you mean when MoP legacy servers come out

[@DrMetropolis]

Personally stopped playing WoW when it became a proc "hit as many buttons as you can" spam fest. WoW combat has never been interesting and adding mor ebuttions for me to press won't change that. Still, BFA has been fairly dull so far. massively disaapointe din Warfronts and island Expeidtions

[@fuhryfhavyre6799]

Hey preach. One suggestion. Could you highlight the topic that you are talking about at the moment in the video? Or better yet make clickable annotations

[@drakedbz]

Hmm so what you're saying is that it's hard to know whether a piece is an upgrade by looking at the item level? It's almost like it's been that way since reforging was removed.

[@christoffer1990ify]

a trait can change ur playstyle, having 10 different traits that give u overall same dmg but changes playstyle is good. and escpecially for arena it can help u play vs comps that cc u forever

[@legenisgaming]

@preach you hit the nail on the head. I am tired of farming for the good traits and waking up on tuesdays to see they are no longer good. I only wish blizzard would say "X is the dps we are aiming for" so we can tell whats OP and whats UP (underpowered). RIP Seismic wave. RIP Balance druids.

[@lolwtf66]

@Preach Gaming You are our voice, may the mighty Blizzard hear us out.

[@ReatuKrentor]

A good example I think is Path of Exile's way of having very specific definitions for words used in their tooltips. As well as having keywords(Like a paladin's Hammer of Justice could have 'stun' as a keyword)

[@Miguelitobr]

On the process of creating or developing something sometimes you come to a point where you need to let go of something in order for the whole project to move forward. It looks like they didnt really have a good vision for this and are now being forced to spend time to dumb down the system.

[@DeaddMax]

Simple / Advanced tooltips. Love it, gimme now. Reading and understanding abilities is great and I want that.

[@swi03]

Do you think that this taunt change will effect melee dps tanking on bosses such as Coven? When I was doing that boss I already had to taunt periodically to maintain aggro.

[@daniellucas5522]

The reason they're reducing the threat boost from taunt in case tanks were going to use it on cooldown is that they don't want tanks to use it on cooldown. It's like the defensive cooldowns that boost dps: They don't want tanks to be forced to use taunt to keep threat on their target. If they leave it in, it'll cover up issues with threat scaling and feel bad.

[@Barkebain]

Blizz's post on taunts - they say that using taunt as part of your rotation "would be bad for several reasons", then the next sentence they say that they are going to lower the bonus threat during the window, which will more often lead to the need to taunt as part of your rotation. How many times can you see Blizz openly contradict themselves before you realize they are not communicating, they are setting false narratives. I'm no longer willing to pay a company that doesn't respect their players enough to be truthful with them. I guess when they hired an attorney to be their lead designer and mouthpiece, they clearly didn't have honest communication in mind.

[@jamesself9966]

Hey preach do you think changes like this would make add-on creators either want to or be forced to make add-ons for the advanced tooltip that should just be implemented? Do you think these patterns are oddly pushing people more into third party programs, add-ons, and websites then before and what the reasoning could be behind blizzard making those moves?

[@uppinglife6548]

I have never been more confused. I main a boomie- what is with the lack of haste? Additionally there is such a yo yo affect on traits how they work etc. I am using a 350 set over a 375 because the lower gives me better traits and stats it’s crazy! I am really upset at the lack of information and transparency. I walk into raids/dungeons everyday like welp let’s see what happens this time. I really have a hard time knowing what to expect out of my character. Blizzard has such a loyal long standing base you think they would treat them better. I know a few people in guilds who have quit already out of frustration and said they’d come back in a few months to see if it gets any better/clearer.

[@nokturnallex2160]

Boomkin is somewhat like Enhancement Shaman, our DMG is incredibly random. We're so dependent on Starsurge critting, if it crits it does 30k+ damage, if it doesn't , it's only 15k damage. That's huge. Sometimes I do 16k dps, sometimes I only do 10k dps. It's nuts. Then Blizzard went and nerfed Streaking Stars into the ground so now random passive traits are better than all 3 of the Boomkin traits. (Dagger in the Back is now our best trait outside of Uldir traits, aka Lazer Matrix and Archive of the TItans.) They buffed our Innervate trait so now Lively Sprit isn't so bad, but good luck on getting the timing right and expecting whoever you Innervate to spam as much spells as humanly possible while they have Innervate. (Like for maximum DPS with Lively Spirit, you'd have to apply Innervate 12 seconds before Heroism/Bloodlust/Timewarp is cast, then activate all your trinkets and dmg buffs. Which goes against the ideal situation to Innervate... when your healer needs mana. And your healer would most definitely prefer an Innervate during Heroism, not before Heroism, though even then, the Tanks should be easily able to stay alive during a Heroism, so even right-before/during/right-after Heroism, it's not a good time to innervate your healer for maximum effect. So even with the buff Lively Spirit is a hard trait to take advantage of perfectly and is just a badly designed trait to begin with.)

[@jeschalen7071]

If I were still a mythic raider, my opinion of the azerite system would consist mostly of expletives. However, I mostly play casual/solo content so I can use sub-optimal trait set-ups without hindering my ability to play too much.

[@drakedbz]

I like the advanced tooltip idea... I seem to remember another MMO having that, but I can't remember which.

[@Nollaz]

Okay, maybe I'm mixing up games but wasn't there an option to have basic/advanced tooltips? One for newer players just telling them what a spell does and one with the actual numbers and mechanics.

[@dirtyspaceeagleable]

I am slowly hearing the happy leave Preach's voice

[@_alex_y.not_]

For the curious, some of the background music is from Hotline Miami. Anyone know where any of the other songs are from?

[@GhostOfTazio]

Think its Timecop1983 I could be wrong

[@daemonsalad]

Hey what happened to "holla bollers"? Give it back...

[@2ShoesPhoto]

I've reached a point in the game where I have little to no interest in trying to understand it so I'll just hold off till winter comes and I have nothing else to do but play and figure it out.

[@Pryingit]

"If they bring all the Azerite Traits to be pretty similar to each other then one has to ask the question is what is the point in the system in the first place?" I really felt this. Why isn't this performance just baked into the gear itself if the traits you choose don't even matter? The entire system the expansion revolved around is now 3 pieces of non-farmable gear locked behind weekly loot rolls.

[@D1craigRob]

The azerite traits seem fun to me, 1st ring at least. Cpuld they not make it so a fully unlocked azerite peice can allow 50% power on a not unlocked azerite peice? I got a decent peice in warfront and it's first unlock is after level 20. I an 16 i think and it seems weeks away lol.

[@MelvinDorkus]

i like the tool analogy. i like being given a toolbox and being told "this is a hammer, this is a saw" and then i get to figure out how to use those tools myself. wow is the mmo that gives you a blueprint to a house and a toolbox and you have to figure out how to build it. bdo has this problem where the tooltips (translated from korean) tell you nothing and the devs never clarify anything and its up to the players to figure out how everything (even something as simple as a character stat) works. i dont want wow to go that way.

[@carterrk]

What if rather than triple stacking traits, you could find azerite combos that make the game play more compelling and engaging. That would make the 40+ whatever traits per class more interesting as you find combinations. But this will always lead back to balance. Having combos that could boost burst damage, new defensive mechanics, or healing could help.

[@golgaunt-pcxboxone5168]

What blizzard intends is that most people get stuck with 340 Azerite gear because they didn't win the slot machine pull on the weekly boss, the 2 raid bosses that drop the item for their class, or the 1 in a million chance it drops from the M+ weekly chest. No matter what your skill or how much you play it is still just a slot machine pull to fix 3 of your item slots. Yes I am stuck with 2 at 340 and 1 from rep at 355.

[@Brekner]

You know what? I just equip the highest ilvl Azerite gear. If i have 2 at the same ilvl, i just use whatever looks more fun, i don't even look at numbers anymore.

[@AhsHEHhds]

Same. Gotta play their game the way they want I guess... first time unsubing not because of boredom or burnout, but because there is actually no point in playing.

[@Naikotasd]

you know it's gonna be a serious vid, when he doesnt open up with "Howler Bowler"

[@ravs1988]

Could you please change the volume of the starting intro to be more in tune with the rest of the video?

[@hejsan7846]

Definitely agree about clarity. The biggest example of that is the PvP in BfA. It's been known for a long time that there's a "secret" ilvl scaling in arena, but no one really knows how it works. There are videos of Rogues two-shotting people while wielding level 70 weapons. So what's the best gearing strategy? Should I intentionally equip lower ilvl gear just to get a scaling bonus? Nobody knows, and it's frustrating as hell.

[@JusticeRS]

RIP retaining aggro on Tol’dagor when a DPS is in the cannon.

[@Phntm27]

Why weren't equal to start with?

[@Fatmoviewatcher400]

I am a bit worried about the taunt change as a Guardian Druid, my damage isn't as good as other tanks so sometimes DPS are able to pull mobs off me already. I am really against removing information from the tooltips. Hopefully we don't get to a point where even damage numbers are not shown.

[@bourbonwarrior1618]

I think the Azerite system would be way better if the traits actually changed gameplay. Like this trait gives you more AOE damage or this trait reduces cast times to help with fights with alot of movement. Of course then you would need 50 pieces of gear in your bags. That could be fixed by just putting the traits on the neck. They could even make it so you unlock traits based on quests, dungeon or raid bosses.

[@dankiusmemeiusmaximustheth1648]

Hi, I play balance druid. Does anyone know the best resource (youtuber or website) that offers balance druid guides for the most recent patch/ hotfixes?

[@38dedo]

What do you think about the fact that respeccing Azerite traits costs increased gold that only drops back down per week? I've respecced multiple pieces into executioner's precision on my arms warrior to try out the 75% buff, then i changed them all to simmering rage and reckless flurry to try out the fury spec, then I changed them back. This cost me a little over 10k gold. Sure I could go use something like Raidbots to sim it out but why is trying out different traits/talents/builds in-game and experimenting them cost so much now?

[@Elunesbigtoe]

By next expansion our tooltips are gonna be "Fireball: Does damage" and "Greater Heal: Heals target"

[@DJRiyzen]

I've been playing since launch and just hit 318 ILvl on my lock. Still having fun. I doubt I will be raiding for another month or so. Hopefully this will be fixed before then.

[@Dropaprayer]

If I had to guess, the taunt change is more about tanks having to manage threat better on skittish weeks/single target bosses.

[@Akarazariel]

I would love an option for advanced tooltips in-game, kind of like in Arpg's

[@KosmataBradva]

Advanced tooltips whoa man what a great idea, can't believe 14 years and they never added something like that in the game.

[@fooheals4473]

I appreciate the amount of time you take to explain your opinions. As a pvper it’s not a bad time to play but azerite armor is for sure annoying.

[@karlzone2]

To be fair, they have to balance the traits that they're planning to keep post 8.1 (?), or whenever they're planning to make Azerite more interesting.

[@JKnight1833]

My question to the reduction of the threat gen in the taunt debuff is why? The explanation was that it wasnt really necessary anymore now that vengeance is gone. But its not like the debuff was an extra button you had to hit, it was just baked in. So removing it isnt a quality of life improvement for tanks, and I don't understand the necessity for reducing it.

[@jeremy_duck]

man...now that andy's gone (BibleThump) you can really tell the difference between Mikes style and Andy's style, it's a nice change to go back to the old Preach style tho, keep at it mike.

[@xtc31]

has anyone else been having issues with low fps? my fps has dropped badly and i dunno why.... ive not changed any settings and always used to be 60 fps. its only dropped in the past week. seems strange

[@knfbnny]

its most likely addon related. either an addon is out of date, or a recently updated addon caused it. if everything is upto date, disable all addons and enable them one by one until you find the culprit

[@xtc31]

i will try that :)

[@TheUmbrex]

i am so glad i let my sub expire before BfA, turned out it became what i expected

[@Zohrath]

The Azerite system is so convoluted, and in the end pointless since it's a lottery, that I would prefer going after a dungeon set. I'd be much happier chasing bonuses in a 6- or even 8-piece set where I know what's waiting, and I know what the effects are. Since the effects come with more pieces, I can assume my power increases and not give it a second thought. Even such a boring thing would be better than the opaque garbage we have now.

[@vanionsteele]

Good info, cheers Priest

[@selwrynn6702]

Maybe it’s that I run with really bursty dps, maybe I’m just bad, but arms warrior bladestorm and havoc Fel Barrage happen often enough that I do have to keep my taunts on CD.

[@peterparkerspiderman7875]

Not quiting wow, but....thats only because i love this game. I like raiding and doing dungeons but this rework/resim/rechange stuff is going insane. I have no idea anymore wth i should pick, and even with sims i have no clue..This is my hobbie, and i don't mind thinking over it, but i did my studies..not looking for more. Nice vid Preach! i 100% agree with you on this point.

[@SoftClip_Q]

I’m confused didn’t they say one of the goals of BFA was to have more accurate tool tips?

[@Suminod]

I think the better question, preach, should be “why did we need tank threat for BfA from 1000% to 450ish% if we are already afraid of tanks losing threat to dps so rapidly again...”

[@silverspear21]

When will Blizzard figure out that no matter what they do, there will always be someone that complains.