Three more countries recognize Palestinian statehood - what happens next? | DW Analysis

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@ApLemon
@ApLemon 5 ай бұрын
Human rights are not negotiable, on any side, so why is DW still questioning this?
@ArnoSnyman007
@ArnoSnyman007 5 ай бұрын
It is not s human right.
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 5 ай бұрын
terrorist rights are however not rights
@jankaufmann4305
@jankaufmann4305 5 ай бұрын
The discussion in this war is absurd. First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.
@xychachiniyoyo
@xychachiniyoyo 5 ай бұрын
@@geoms6263 Don't try to falsehood about Islam. Even who follows Islam they protect from any kind of sin. Even from HIV.
@xychachiniyoyo
@xychachiniyoyo 5 ай бұрын
@@geoms6263 Islam says wine is harmful. Medical science also says that.
@jonathanarciaga3951
@jonathanarciaga3951 5 ай бұрын
The value of Israeli baby is the same as the value of the Palestinian baby
@nick00176
@nick00176 5 ай бұрын
No, aren't you all against Israel
@jonathanhall5836
@jonathanhall5836 5 ай бұрын
True, it’s a seller’s market
@ernestdoyle6937
@ernestdoyle6937 5 ай бұрын
Tell that to the Palestinians.
@WalterThompson-rt7jm
@WalterThompson-rt7jm 5 ай бұрын
Tell that to Hamas…
@dustintacohands1107
@dustintacohands1107 5 ай бұрын
Where’s Kfir???!?
@vanessaaventura
@vanessaaventura 5 ай бұрын
how can they say they support a two state solution and not want to recognize palestinian right to self determination ? Germany stays on the wrong side of history.
@Jorge.A.12
@Jorge.A.12 5 ай бұрын
Previous self determinated government was Hamas
@lovyrituraj
@lovyrituraj 5 ай бұрын
​​@@Jorge.A.12 they won through elections
@Lfgnyc
@Lfgnyc 5 ай бұрын
Erm, what happened in November 1947? 🤔
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm 5 ай бұрын
@@Lfgnyc The first two-state solution was rejected.
@yossarincatch6051
@yossarincatch6051 5 ай бұрын
@@Blodhelm Wrong NetanHitler on record said he scuttled Oslo Pact.
@javiermiranda5769
@javiermiranda5769 5 ай бұрын
Spain, Ireland and Norway on the right side of history. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Shame on you Germany!!
@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk
@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk 5 ай бұрын
Germany donates more money to Gaza than Spain , Ireland,and norway combined, 250 million euros,, you heard about putting your money where your mouth is.
@JasonNelovit
@JasonNelovit 5 ай бұрын
True
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 5 ай бұрын
👍​@@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk
@JG-xi4tu
@JG-xi4tu 5 ай бұрын
Cut us some slack, we have a history you know
@MRPILL72
@MRPILL72 5 ай бұрын
@@JG-xi4tuyou would think that history would make them more vigilant of crimes against humanity… and genocide itself. It’s almost as if they didn’t learn from their mistakes.
@manofsan
@manofsan 5 ай бұрын
a *_RIGHT_* is *_NOT_* a reward!
@datboib3432
@datboib3432 5 ай бұрын
I want my own country too then, it’s my right apparently
@Martyr-hero-Yahya-Sinwar-RIP
@Martyr-hero-Yahya-Sinwar-RIP 5 ай бұрын
@@datboib3432 Freedom is always fought for never given. We see the fruits. Israel had nothing to make it state.when it was recognized by newly formed and west dominated UN. But palastine have evrything to make them state.
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm 5 ай бұрын
@@Martyr-hero-Yahya-Sinwar-RIP Then why are people trying to GIVE Palestinians a state saying it is a right?
@datboib3432
@datboib3432 5 ай бұрын
@@Martyr-hero-Yahya-Sinwar-RIP israel has been having to fight for their freedom also. Everybody with half a brain wants a two-state solution , except for the extremes on BOTH sides. The average Palestinian person just wants to live in peace and have a home & the average Israeli just wants to live in peace and not deal with stuff like this every 10 years or so.
@PaulJoanKieth
@PaulJoanKieth 5 ай бұрын
hows that working out for the Kurds?
@AB-zl4nh
@AB-zl4nh 5 ай бұрын
The EU should apply travel bans on all Israeli settlers in East Jerusalem and the Eest Bank.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 5 ай бұрын
The East Bank is in Jordan, doofus.
@owentr3svall3s68
@owentr3svall3s68 5 ай бұрын
East bank- You mean east of Jordan river which is Jordan. You are right all palastinian/arab in gaza and Judea/Samaria should go to the nation of Jordan.
@timothyemery8289
@timothyemery8289 5 ай бұрын
The EU is part of the apartheid, and the Israelis are European settlers. Fact!
@delos2279
@delos2279 5 ай бұрын
West Bank you mean.
@fredowusu22
@fredowusu22 5 ай бұрын
@user-pt6vg7jf6bthat would be great. Europe would a better and prosperous continent with Russia as a friend not a foe
@weremus8639
@weremus8639 5 ай бұрын
If Israel can exist, Palestine can, too! :) But not Hamas.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 5 ай бұрын
The two-state solution is dead. Palestinians and Hamas are the same.
@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m
@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m 5 ай бұрын
how about Israel govt? Israel govt are/were doing something much worse than Ka Mass and no consequence/justice to them?
@datboib3432
@datboib3432 5 ай бұрын
@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7misrael actually has a functioning government with a balance of powers. Hamas is literally just a militant group that seized power almost 20 years ago & refuses to hold elections.
@bachhongtran
@bachhongtran 5 ай бұрын
@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m Palestinians people are innocent, right? Ask for food, medical supply and fire rockets for decades?
@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m
@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m 5 ай бұрын
@@bachhongtran Israel does not have fire rocket? US does not have fire rocket? Uk does not have fire rocket? Germany does not have fire rocket?
@sherwinclarencego1933
@sherwinclarencego1933 5 ай бұрын
Hamas is not Palestine. Palestine is a state while Hamas is merely the government on one part of Palestine.
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm 5 ай бұрын
The government that started a war they couldn't win and is destroying their people so their leader can live it up in Qatar with more cash meant to help with the devastation.
@rbrtmllr
@rbrtmllr 5 ай бұрын
And Hamas's rise to power was corrupt and it has not held elections.
@clanpsi
@clanpsi 5 ай бұрын
No, it isn't. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Labelling someone Palestinian means about as much as labelling someone European.
@rbrtmllr
@rbrtmllr 5 ай бұрын
@@clanpsi I suppose you prefer prisoners
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 5 ай бұрын
@@clanpsi Ok, maybe you prefer it this way. Palestine should be a country. But the overwhelming majority of it was "given" -aka, stolen from the Palestinians to Israel. So you're right. It's not a state. It should be a country.
@HH-qk2or
@HH-qk2or 5 ай бұрын
Wow, what a premise DW. 75 years of occupation, land theft and murder and you ask such a question. There is nothing wrong with Journalism that seeks to find the truth, but the way you posed it comes from a sense of entitlement and lack of understanding.
@johns1600
@johns1600 5 ай бұрын
Shocking in how biased he was in his interview style
@johncalligeros2108
@johncalligeros2108 5 ай бұрын
@@johns1600 Is Phil Gayle, the DW interviewer, in the surreptitious pay of the German establishment? This is possibly the worst DW effort at unbiased journalism I have ever watched. For the record he has a BSc. in sports science, and a MA in creative writing. Maybe that explains his demeanour/approach/attitude; one of more or less permanent disdain, which I think he mistakes for edginess.
@jankaufmann4305
@jankaufmann4305 5 ай бұрын
The discussion in this war is absurd. First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.
@francotheafrican7550
@francotheafrican7550 5 ай бұрын
@@jankaufmann4305 you again? You keep copy pasting your ideological nonsense sense everywhere smh
@olgakessel4101
@olgakessel4101 5 ай бұрын
@@francotheafrican7550 every word in his comment is true
@cz_tr
@cz_tr 5 ай бұрын
what the heck is that title on the banner?! you couldn't finish paying the cost of WW2. Germany made a mistake in that time, and today making another mistake. history will record this one as well 📝
@olafsigursons
@olafsigursons 5 ай бұрын
Hamas is a religious far-right organization. You are making the mistake.
@mstrehena5535
@mstrehena5535 5 ай бұрын
​@@olafsigursons Armed resistance against brutal occupation is not terrorism. Nelson Mandela did the same and he was called terrorist by the west.
@erikt1713
@erikt1713 5 ай бұрын
The payments to the allies for WW2 were completed about 20 years ago. That's really done now.
@BOBK-jf4qx
@BOBK-jf4qx 5 ай бұрын
@@olafsigursons While Israel cabinet is a compassionate kumbaya club... :D
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 5 ай бұрын
@@mstrehena5535Gaza wasn’t occupied on Oct 6th
@SoBiased
@SoBiased 5 ай бұрын
3 Brave countries that have balls of steel
@jonathanjacob5453
@jonathanjacob5453 5 ай бұрын
Balls of steel indeed. Imagine the pressure being put on them.
@rifatahmed-ok6et
@rifatahmed-ok6et 5 ай бұрын
Love from Bangladesh for Spain, Ireland, Norway ❤❤❤
@audreyheart2180
@audreyheart2180 5 ай бұрын
children are not Hamas .. children shdn't be slaughtered for Hamas' crimes .. build a wall. protect your borders better .. the world is mourning with bullied- bombed- &-starved Gaza; do you want this to be a forever thing? Ruling over your neighbor is obscene. 👼🏽👼🏽👶🏽👶🏽👵🏽👵🏽
@bigboyindhouse8142
@bigboyindhouse8142 5 ай бұрын
Did you tell that to Russia?
@CptFugu
@CptFugu 5 ай бұрын
@@bigboyindhouse8142 Hamas, Hezbollah, and others exist with the active support of the population. You can't really say they aren't tied. I am against military action against civilians, but those civilians need to make sure they are not getting involved through active or passive support. There are few real innocents among the Palestinians. To be fair, Gaza and the west bank were pretty much left alone for well over a decade. Any hardship there falls squarely on the head of their governments. Previously things were solved with the odd small scale retaliation. They crossed a line on Oct 7. And that was all on their own. They can end this at any time by capitulating and turning themselves in.
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs 5 ай бұрын
hamas started a war on oct 7. hamas says they will do oct 7 over and over again. this could end today if hamas released the hostages and surrendered. blame hamas.
@batosato
@batosato 5 ай бұрын
Do you call Irish freedom struggle a terrorist act? If not, then how can one call Palestinian struggle a terrorist act?
@wilsonlopez8948
@wilsonlopez8948 5 ай бұрын
That title is horrible
@nurex9029
@nurex9029 5 ай бұрын
Was about to say the same...absorb
@delos2279
@delos2279 5 ай бұрын
Watch France24 instead, much less slant. Germany's history means their state news cannot do balanced coverage on this issue.
@mgordon1713
@mgordon1713 5 ай бұрын
But it's correct. They just rewarded terrorism, rioting and violence.
@hommadi2001
@hommadi2001 5 ай бұрын
Same.
@genadiyrool
@genadiyrool 5 ай бұрын
It's like saying freeing an abuse victim after they finally fought back is rewarding agression
@user-wo8Iw9km4w
@user-wo8Iw9km4w 5 ай бұрын
Denying Palestine right to exist is terrorism
@urbansenicar81
@urbansenicar81 5 ай бұрын
No. It's annexation.
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 5 ай бұрын
Terrorism should not exist tho
@user-wo8Iw9km4w
@user-wo8Iw9km4w 5 ай бұрын
@@greenwave819 exactly. So denying Palestine shouldn't exist 👍✌️
@lise1255
@lise1255 5 ай бұрын
Palestine exists as it always has. There's a country called Israel in Palestine and a bit of Lebanon too.
@lise1255
@lise1255 5 ай бұрын
​@@urbansenicar81 Annexation of what exactly? The Arab countries started an attack war on Israel in 1967 and lost. That's it.
@schlafcomandanten
@schlafcomandanten 5 ай бұрын
Today I am proud to be a Norwegian.
@olafsigursons
@olafsigursons 5 ай бұрын
You are proud to support a religious far-right state? Well, why I am no surprised.
@nurlanalizada4189
@nurlanalizada4189 5 ай бұрын
You guys are at the right side of the history!
@schlafcomandanten
@schlafcomandanten 5 ай бұрын
@@olafsigursons I dont support the religious far-right state of Israel.
@afterglow5285
@afterglow5285 5 ай бұрын
Norwegians are pretty based, they helped A LOT in colombia in the peace process in 2016, top notch diplomats.
@helenachin
@helenachin 5 ай бұрын
And I'm proud of being Spanish and proud of my government. 🇪🇦
@teoweingee6142
@teoweingee6142 5 ай бұрын
Germany "two states solution requires direct negotiation on both sides?" hahaha, let Israel decide when to recognize Palestinian state? Haha, everyone know will never happen, all talk only 😂😂😆😆
@Stevemcqueen808
@Stevemcqueen808 5 ай бұрын
Palastinians don't want a state, they want the whole piece.
@datboib3432
@datboib3432 5 ай бұрын
Hamas charter outright denies the right for israel to exist. Israel (and everyone else, for that matter) is for two-state solution. But the government of that state can’t be bent on the destruction of the other. Hence why israel is for two state solution, just not under hamas rule.
@delos2279
@delos2279 5 ай бұрын
@@datboib3432 and the PA? Because Israel is the one that was annexing the West Bank, which is the PA, not Hamas, and that was going on decades before Hamas ever existed.
@hrvojeorsolic1058
@hrvojeorsolic1058 5 ай бұрын
Palestine was never a country, Palestinians are not a nation, they are Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian origin immigrants in Israel.
@Stevemcqueen808
@Stevemcqueen808 5 ай бұрын
@@hrvojeorsolic1058 shhhh that doesn't fit the occupier/occupied narrative
@robertmusil5831
@robertmusil5831 5 ай бұрын
Hey Deutsche Welle. What happened to your interview with Palestinian lawyer Noura Erekat on this topic? Did you suppress it? Or did you just lose the tape?
@oatlylatte9
@oatlylatte9 5 ай бұрын
from a neutral PoV, you guys have been ignoring palestine for 70+ years and it doesnt solve anything only to make it worse. maybe now try recognizing them and maybe things will change.
@LouiseBarnes-pg2yy
@LouiseBarnes-pg2yy 5 ай бұрын
No. They deserve to be free from apartheid.
@jankaufmann4305
@jankaufmann4305 5 ай бұрын
They live in apartheid due to Humus - not Israel. Israel ranks the highest on human rights indexes. Palestine in the lowest.
@sirgg3847
@sirgg3847 5 ай бұрын
@@jankaufmann4305 yeah khummus in west bank too? fking hasbara
@stephensimpson8531
@stephensimpson8531 5 ай бұрын
The biggest bank in Israel is owned by a Palestinian. There are Palestinians in the Knesset and in the Supreme Court. Compare that to the position of Palestinians in Lebanon…
@vervetech9395
@vervetech9395 5 ай бұрын
​@@jankaufmann4305Apartheid existed long before Hamas became a thing so quit spreading misinformation.
@jankaufmann4305
@jankaufmann4305 5 ай бұрын
I don't know what you mean by that. Israel ranks the highest percentage on human right indexes. Palestine in the lowest. If there i something as Apartheid it exists in Palestine since Humus deny their citizines basic human rights.
@TheGimmers
@TheGimmers 5 ай бұрын
If Palestine was recongnized sooner than October 7th would not have happened
@soowo5942
@soowo5942 5 ай бұрын
Germany is always on the genociding side of history.
@isasaleh1508
@isasaleh1508 5 ай бұрын
I find it strange that Germany wants Palestinians to negotiate with Israel but don't encourage Ukrainians to talk with Russia.
@eddastrohmayer251
@eddastrohmayer251 5 ай бұрын
They should do also with Ukraine ! Negotiations!
@preselnik7506
@preselnik7506 5 ай бұрын
Germany wants, what US of A wants.
@adriannaconnor6471
@adriannaconnor6471 5 ай бұрын
If Ukrainians negotiate with Russia, Russia will just take a break and learn from its past mistakes and then invade whatever's left of Ukraine a few years down the road. The war in Ukraine would immediately end if Russia left.
@cyclomb
@cyclomb 5 ай бұрын
Germany is America's proxy state after all
@troublingrain3060
@troublingrain3060 5 ай бұрын
yes
@rwksasc
@rwksasc 5 ай бұрын
Armed resistance against oppression is not terrorism.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 5 ай бұрын
Yes it is.
@BOBK-jf4qx
@BOBK-jf4qx 5 ай бұрын
@@jaybee9269 Read Internation Law, you're wrong. Some acts may qualify as war crimes (hostages, etc.) but otherwise it's a legal struggle against an occupier.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 5 ай бұрын
@@BOBK-jf4qx >> Israelis are not occupiers; there’s never been a state of “Palestine.” Judea and Samaria (aka the West Bank) were won from Jordan in a defensive war. The same with the Golan Heights. I feel bad for the Palestinian Arabs but no worse than I feel for the Kurds or the Rohingya peoples. Of course, Israel tried to give Gaza back to Egypt in 1979 but they wouldn’t take it. But you support The Current Thing.
@joexavier4070
@joexavier4070 5 ай бұрын
​@@jaybee9269143 countries recognized Palestinians existence, so ur permission is not needed I think
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 5 ай бұрын
@@joexavier4070 >> Not my permission, just logic. Oh, and reality!
@clanpsi
@clanpsi 5 ай бұрын
It's an insult to logical thought. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Israelis are Palestinian. Tourism brochures from late 1930s Israel literally advertised "Visit Palestine." It's the same as calling someone from Europe European.
@filipe5722
@filipe5722 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for adding the disclaimer that your comment was an insult to logical thought. I fully agree.
@Jen-e-sis
@Jen-e-sis 5 ай бұрын
Palestine was held captive by Israel all these years its time for their freedom and human rights!. 🇵🇸
@ua697
@ua697 5 ай бұрын
It's 100% correct that Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland and Romania have recognised Palestine, but that recognition goes all the way back to when these countries were still allied with the USSR.
@ikku4321
@ikku4321 5 ай бұрын
This headline has lost human decency.
@Keepthepeacesharethelove
@Keepthepeacesharethelove 5 ай бұрын
How do you mean this?
@ikku4321
@ikku4321 5 ай бұрын
@@Keepthepeacesharethelove 'Is recognizing Palestine a reward for terrorism?' how would you read this in the light of the latest news, history and human rights? For me it's an attempt to re-define morale through isolating viewpoints while sacrificing modern society's core values.
@VoiceSriLanka
@VoiceSriLanka 5 ай бұрын
We will do everything possible to stop those 3 countries from recognising the state of Palestine 🇵🇸 Israeli foreign Minister ( above statement is enough to understand they don’t want Palestinians or a Palestinian state - BIBI tells 80% Palestinians are Hamas while President said 90% of them are not innocent even though half of the Palestinians are children)
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs 5 ай бұрын
Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.
@danielcaceres9971
@danielcaceres9971 5 ай бұрын
No, it is not. Germany needs to stop pandering to Israeli’s far right whims
@davidwhittington7638
@davidwhittington7638 5 ай бұрын
By what, kowtowing to the antisemitic right wing in Germany???
@Raincognoscente
@Raincognoscente 5 ай бұрын
Norway and Ireland continuing to be cool asf as always.
@aleonyohan6745
@aleonyohan6745 5 ай бұрын
Thank goodness we have an example to follow. Big Love from a level-headed American. Free Palestine.
@jdotsalter910
@jdotsalter910 5 ай бұрын
Hey don't forget Spain! Vale!
@fredrikhelland8194
@fredrikhelland8194 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I remember when we recognised Ismail Haniye as leader of the Palestinian government. Cool asf
@sniegasx
@sniegasx 5 ай бұрын
This is insane
@liar-liar
@liar-liar 5 ай бұрын
All respect goes to the 3 brave countries that have backbones and the balls of steel
@deadmanprodinc
@deadmanprodinc 5 ай бұрын
It appears that DW is on Netanyahu's side on this issue. When the host says it is easy to see why "Palestine being recognized as a state" is a reward for terrorists. First, 90% of the Palestinian people killed were not terrorist nor were they Hamas. Secondly, the Hamas attack, as atrocious as that was, appeared to be the final straw to 76 years of, not only Palestinian oppression, but all the murder and crimes against humanity oppression brought with it. As if being confined to a walled in prison was not enough. Several Palestinian generations were born into this oppression and have never experienced freedom, rights or equality. This history is not a secret and it is why people around the world are protesting and supporting Palestinians....but not DW news!
@markrahman5745
@markrahman5745 5 ай бұрын
What terrorism ,fighting for freedom isn’t terrorism, Palestinians have the right to fight and resist occupation and oppression ,so many nations done it and Palestinians are no exception, they have the right of self determination and statehood like Israel and every other nation on earth and no one could or can deny that for them, gods given rights
@theodorabruin4601
@theodorabruin4601 5 ай бұрын
Why did they vote in the terrorist group Hamas to rule them? They Palestinians should be fighting Hamas!
@olafsigursons
@olafsigursons 5 ай бұрын
Fighting for freedom is targeting political or military target. To be oppressed doesn't give you the tight to commit atrocities. To be oppressed doesn't give you the right to be religious far-right.
@sahroyusuf9130
@sahroyusuf9130 5 ай бұрын
@sahroyusuf9130
@sahroyusuf9130 5 ай бұрын
Free falastin
@roystonboodoo7525
@roystonboodoo7525 5 ай бұрын
​@@olafsigursons.. 1. and the U.S does it without being oppressed !😒 2. Everyone has a right to their religious beliefs, historical religious wars are a given worldwide (I'm not saying I agree )
@Luca-gu7qu
@Luca-gu7qu 5 ай бұрын
The last speaker said declaring independence doesn't lead to any path forward. I would recommend looking at Irish history between 1919-1949. The Taoiseach referenced it in his speech, very directly to make people look at the facts.
@retrofedora7061
@retrofedora7061 5 ай бұрын
Recognition of Palestine is an act of justice & humanity, to the indigenous in their occupied land. Supporting i3roel means: Supporting occupation, apartheid, etnich Cleansing, gen0sid & warcrimes
@ecomandurban7183
@ecomandurban7183 5 ай бұрын
Who will be eligible to live in an independent Palestinian state because there is no nation of ethnic Palestinian people.
@Valentina.Montano
@Valentina.Montano 5 ай бұрын
There was no "nation" of Israel before either. You need a country to be a nation and going back 5,000-10,000 years in history doesn't apply in international law.
@niemand6031
@niemand6031 5 ай бұрын
It's not about ethnicity. Are borders of other sovereign countries based on ethnicity?
@cyclomb
@cyclomb 5 ай бұрын
Palestinians are Canaanites
@jonathanjacob5453
@jonathanjacob5453 5 ай бұрын
2:45 “unilaterally recognize Palestinian state”? The vast majority of the countries recognize the Palestinian state. This is no longer something to debate.
@online3010
@online3010 5 ай бұрын
Please recognise Taiwan and Somaliland at the same time. Stop being hypocrite
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Recognizing Palestine will only help Taiwans cause.
@DL10663
@DL10663 5 ай бұрын
Germany is complicit in this genocide.
@berschte
@berschte 5 ай бұрын
No this should have been done a long time ago.
@tadrod2323
@tadrod2323 5 ай бұрын
it was the product of not recognizing it., but Hamas should have no place in a Palestinian state.
@joexavier4070
@joexavier4070 5 ай бұрын
If they recognized earlier this Will not happened at first place
@Nancy-mi3xe
@Nancy-mi3xe 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the US should recognize breakaway ethnicities or regions of Ireland(Irish Travelers), Spain(Basque, Galician, Catalan and Castilian regions) and Norway(Kvens, Romani, Tatars), as sovereign states, and recognize them. Let's make our own unilateral announcement for the breakaway ethnicities states.
@ethan073
@ethan073 5 ай бұрын
Breakaway? You may want to spend some time researching how the Israeli state was formed…
@aseefNeumann
@aseefNeumann 5 ай бұрын
is recognising Israel a reward for settler colonial terror?
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 5 ай бұрын
You’re so big! You can use buzzwords!
@aleonyohan6745
@aleonyohan6745 5 ай бұрын
I'm going to say yes it is
@Blankarte
@Blankarte 5 ай бұрын
Indeed
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 5 ай бұрын
Israel actually exists. There’s never been a “Palestine.”
@irinegorshtein7597
@irinegorshtein7597 5 ай бұрын
And nobody put pressure on Hamas. Only on Israel.
@Iris-hx6ox
@Iris-hx6ox 5 ай бұрын
No one is supporting Hamas. Both Israel and Hamas have been using the Palestinians as political tools. Palestinians have a right to exist. They deserve their own place just as Israel deserves theirs. It can be done without Hamas being part of it and without Israels boot on the innocents throats.
@PerceivedREALITY999
@PerceivedREALITY999 5 ай бұрын
"If I don’t steal your home, someone else will" - Yaakov, Israeli Settler
@Deea88
@Deea88 5 ай бұрын
Palestinians are not Hamas. Israelis are not settlers.
@zeddesi
@zeddesi 5 ай бұрын
Disappointed by the title. Do better DW.
@xychachiniyoyo
@xychachiniyoyo 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Spain, Norway, Ireland 🇸🇯❤️🇪🇸❤️🇮🇪❤️ YOU ARE ALWAYS WILL RECOGNITION AS GOOD SOULS.
@xychachiniyoyo
@xychachiniyoyo 5 ай бұрын
Those say two-state solution but keep silence. Actually they only want Israel state there not Paletine.
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 5 ай бұрын
Israel should recognize a Catalonian state. Maybe a Basque state as well. And then let's see the hypocritical spanish reaction...
@Salara2130
@Salara2130 5 ай бұрын
Palestine is not part of Isreal... what is wrong with you people...
@xXFebo92Xx
@xXFebo92Xx 5 ай бұрын
@Salara2130 it just shows that many Israelis already think that the Palestinian territories belong to Israel like Catalonia belongs to Spain. Not surprising
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Basques and Catalonians have full citizenship rights. Isrl should just give the Palestinians full citizenship rights Palestinians already outnumber Israelis by a million.
@arlenreinstein9907
@arlenreinstein9907 5 ай бұрын
Germany stands with Israel 🇮🇱
@schlafcomandanten
@schlafcomandanten 5 ай бұрын
Tell a lie often enough and it becomes Israel.
@nurlanalizada4189
@nurlanalizada4189 5 ай бұрын
They both are genocidal states.
@aleonyohan6745
@aleonyohan6745 5 ай бұрын
​@@schlafcomandantenLOL oh the old Hebrew God in the sky is going to be real mad at you.
@Blankarte
@Blankarte 5 ай бұрын
Germany is not famous for being on the right side of history...
@joelrios3704
@joelrios3704 5 ай бұрын
Ofc, they are always on the side of Genocide and war
@ronaldsonny9960
@ronaldsonny9960 5 ай бұрын
A headline like this is racist and dehumanizing to the Palestinians and there needs to be a lawsuit filed against DW. It’s clear anyone and that includes media that supports or acts in a way that further encourages the dehumanizing of a people for a genocide are complicit.
@unclescar5616
@unclescar5616 5 ай бұрын
I'm not a mathematician nor a political scientist but I think a two-state solution requires that there be TWO states, right?
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs 5 ай бұрын
Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.
@Cmxqls-5556
@Cmxqls-5556 5 ай бұрын
France are about to rescongise
@YonieZukowsky51
@YonieZukowsky51 5 ай бұрын
A Palestenian state would be run by Hamas. I suppose that makes absolutely no difference to these European leaders.
@lancecahill5486
@lancecahill5486 5 ай бұрын
Both Gaza and the West Bank have their own government. They need to agree to reconcile before any talk of a Palestinian state can take place.
@rebbiakiva
@rebbiakiva 5 ай бұрын
We recognize the Republic of Catalonia
@dailylearning1706
@dailylearning1706 5 ай бұрын
The unilateral decision can not work. Some of these leaders should know that. This is a decades-old problem that requires holistic discussion and agreement from all the parties involved. Unilaterally addressing it will only complicate the whole issue. Many countries, including the USA, are saying the same thing about the two-state solution, but it should be done properly for lasting peace.
@bubblebobble9654
@bubblebobble9654 5 ай бұрын
I haven't yet heard the argument that the Israeli government being a democracy with a balance of powers, first world economics, powerful friends with shared values, is precisely why it is being called on to a higher standard than say a warlord in the Congo or Iran. And the fact that it lives in a dangerous neighborhood, while unfortunate, is not justification to operate for so long outside of those expectations.
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Marriage between different religions is not recognized in Isrl.
@arlenreinstein9907
@arlenreinstein9907 5 ай бұрын
Churchill said : at least when you stand alone, you know where you stand!
@jeffscottkennedy
@jeffscottkennedy 5 ай бұрын
Such an ignorant disgraceful response. Palestinians chose terrorism after being offered an independent state half a dozen times. Good grief.
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake 5 ай бұрын
In 1988 when Israel backed Hamas and bombed the West Bank? In 2000 when Israel demanded control of Palestine's borders? In 2006 when Israeli terrorists murdered their president and Israel voted for a party that refused a two-state solution? In 1956 when Israel invaded Palestine to steal land? In 1946 when Israel committed the Nakba? In 1967 when Israel invaded Palestine to steal more land? Help me out here. Which one of those? 😂
@RS-uh7rz
@RS-uh7rz 5 ай бұрын
Palestine isn't a country because Palestinians don't accept Israel's right to exist. It's not about Netanyahu. If he disappears, the war against Hamas continues.
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Israel doesn't accept Palestinians right to exist. Goes both waysm
@Jakabokbotch2nd
@Jakabokbotch2nd 5 ай бұрын
So we got the major votes, what's next? Are we realising this palestine state? Like for real this time, no more delays
@alexaravantinos4052
@alexaravantinos4052 5 ай бұрын
Is this the most devoid of context title you could think off...
@krmon1992
@krmon1992 5 ай бұрын
From "we don't negotiate with terrorists", To "reward the terrorists" 😂
@steelytemplar
@steelytemplar 5 ай бұрын
As long as they are recognizing the Palestinian Authority and not Hamas as the government of the Palestinian state, it is not a reward for terrorism.
@zepher664
@zepher664 5 ай бұрын
More like, we are the terrorists. We're the ones who stole Palestine in the first place, and so we are complicit in the results. Continuing to refuse recognition of Palestinian statehood is just continuing to deny our own responsibility. Unfortunately, many of the people in power are cowards who flee from the barest whisper of accountability.
@krmon1992
@krmon1992 5 ай бұрын
@@steelytemplar Palestinian authority is Hamas
@vervetech9395
@vervetech9395 5 ай бұрын
​@@krmon1992Reality says opposite. Most of Palestine is governed by the Palestinian Authority. That's what's recognized internationally not Hamas. So get that right
@steelytemplar
@steelytemplar 5 ай бұрын
@krmon1992 No, the Palestinian Authority is the other ruling Palestinian faction - the one that governs the West Bank and which is interested in peaceful coexistence with Israel. Hamas isn't the legitimate government of anyone. They were elected into power in 2006 based on promises of reducing corruption. And, based on exit polls, a significant portion of the Gazans who voted for Hamas in that election also wanted to pursue a peace process with Israel. Once in power, however, Hamas used violence to solidify their control in Gaza, and they no longer allow elections. The Palestinian Authority and Hamas are enemies of each other. The Palestinian Authority is the way forward for peace.
@asdusty4372
@asdusty4372 5 ай бұрын
Israel used the same tactics to achieve their statehood. Why is that ok but not for Palestine?
@primal1233
@primal1233 5 ай бұрын
In a way it is a reward because of what happened on October 7th.
@timmy-wj2hc
@timmy-wj2hc 5 ай бұрын
The Right of Armed Resistance under International Law. 💪👏👏👏
@primal1233
@primal1233 5 ай бұрын
@@timmy-wj2hc if you're talking about murdering 1200 people a right to resistance under international law you are delusional
@primal1233
@primal1233 5 ай бұрын
@@raminm.8785 it doesn't give them the right to kill innocent people
@ebattleon
@ebattleon 5 ай бұрын
​@@primal1233you know that swings both ways right?
@timmy-wj2hc
@timmy-wj2hc 5 ай бұрын
@@hesimplywillnotdie You might want to read the UN charter, it is in multiple languages, including the only language you know, petty english.
@dubsar
@dubsar 5 ай бұрын
After October 7th 2023, it is.
@Erol_808
@Erol_808 5 ай бұрын
I think the thumbnail title should be - "Is recognising the colonial occupation that is Israel and not the Palestinian state rewarding genocide?"
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs 5 ай бұрын
genocide accusation is false. gaza population is 2 million. assume 40 thousand palestinians dead (a high estimate). 40 thousand/ 2million means 2% of gaza population dead due to war. Don't forget war started by hamas on oct 7.
@Urbanhunter49
@Urbanhunter49 5 ай бұрын
Islam has illegally occupied a lot of places by force
@daraa151
@daraa151 5 ай бұрын
I wonder when Spain grants Catalonia and Basque Country their freedom?!
@stevejefferson3250
@stevejefferson3250 5 ай бұрын
catalonians and Basques are not surrounded by walls, bombed by the Army of starved to death, there is not checkpoints, soldiers shooting at civilians, economic blockade or perverse settlers stilling the land. The Catalonians and basques can vote and elect their leaders. Its a big difference, isn't it?
@34tttttaa
@34tttttaa 5 ай бұрын
​@@stevejefferson3250 Catalonians held a peaceful referendum in 2017 and were beaten up by Spanish police. Their elected political leaders either imprisoned or exiled. 😒
@RS-uh7rz
@RS-uh7rz 5 ай бұрын
​@@stevejefferson3250Catalonians and Basques aren't waging terror campaigns intended to destroy Spain, and advocating for the murder of all Spanish people.
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Spain grants Caralonians FULL CITIZENSHIP. Isrl could do the same for ALL Palestinians. Instead of herding them into Ghettos.
@louistan7560
@louistan7560 5 ай бұрын
This question coming from a twisted mind.
@Kohen124
@Kohen124 5 ай бұрын
"They have put a noose around their own necks."
@patay168
@patay168 5 ай бұрын
Recognizing Hamas is BS
@lancecahill5486
@lancecahill5486 5 ай бұрын
Any country that recognizes Palestinian statehood should be aware that the ethnic minority group (s) within its borders might want to have its own government and statehood some day.
@Salara2130
@Salara2130 5 ай бұрын
The difference is the "within its borders" part eh? palestine is not part of isreal
@fredrikhelland8194
@fredrikhelland8194 5 ай бұрын
Norway is already on our way to de facto cede part of the country to Sápmi, so way ahead of ya.
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Palestinians are not an ethnic minority in Isrl amigo. They are actually the majority and growing. Not even counting the millions kicked out and not allowed to come back.
@offdahook2854
@offdahook2854 4 ай бұрын
Palestinians are not just an ethnic minority group. Palestinians are historicly the owners of the lands of Palestina.(today's israel)
@Juliet.7Sh
@Juliet.7Sh 5 ай бұрын
От создания независимого Палестинского государства будет мир в Палестине и на Ближнем Востоке! Палестинским беженцам нужно вернуться на исторически родную землю. Пора израилю прекратить огонь, геноцид в Газе и освободить всю Палестинскую землю! Мнения израиля вообще не имеет никакого значения т.к. еврейское государство было создано в 1948г. против желания Палестинского народа на святой арабской Палестинской земле! Спасибо всем странам за поддержку Палестины!
@Keyboard_Thoughts
@Keyboard_Thoughts 5 ай бұрын
One country's terrorist another country's freedom fighter
@mahamadoutraore1077
@mahamadoutraore1077 5 ай бұрын
It is not a reward for terror! Maybe if Palestinians have their own state, there would be no more terror or at least no justification for it
@eshvartz
@eshvartz 5 ай бұрын
Is recognizing "palestinian" statehood a prize for terror? YES.
@Iris-hx6ox
@Iris-hx6ox 5 ай бұрын
No, it doesn't have to be that.
@pochod2947
@pochod2947 5 ай бұрын
Now it's time for free Catalunya and free Euskadi! ❤
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Has Isrl recognized Catalonia?
@Kim-J312
@Kim-J312 5 ай бұрын
Then send all the Palestinians to Spain , Norway and Ireland 😅
@schlafcomandanten
@schlafcomandanten 5 ай бұрын
Move Israel to Germany or Texas
@aleonyohan6745
@aleonyohan6745 5 ай бұрын
That's exactly what Israel wants. The complete removal of Palestinians.
@sampicano
@sampicano 5 ай бұрын
could you imagine how bad that boat would smell
@vanessaaventura
@vanessaaventura 5 ай бұрын
germany should make place for all the israelis instead of making palestnians pay for their sins.
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake 5 ай бұрын
Palestinians have been there for 3500 years. They're not going anywhere.
@Julia-Richter
@Julia-Richter 5 ай бұрын
I completely agree with the German Foreign Minister. There are som many practical problems that have to be adressed, this kind of symbolism (yes, it us a reward for terrorism) is contraproductive. DW should have a longer interview with Mr. Levi were he can (try to) give answets to those practical questions, instaed of giving him a platform to use slogans.
@lise1255
@lise1255 5 ай бұрын
So where is this Palestinian state ??🤔
@LasaGalle
@LasaGalle 5 ай бұрын
Israel and palestine ..2 countrys..but not hamas
@danos5181
@danos5181 5 ай бұрын
It's time Spain withdraw it's occupation from Catalonia and grant it independence. Resistance and free Catalonia NOW!
@fahadiqbal6019
@fahadiqbal6019 5 ай бұрын
What a poor thumbnail. Shame on you DW
@jankaufmann4305
@jankaufmann4305 5 ай бұрын
It's good. We need to stand up against slam.
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs 5 ай бұрын
hamas started a war on oct 7. hamas says they will do oct 7 over and over again. this could end today if hamas released the hostages and surrendered. blame hamas.
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Could end tomorrow? The world has just woken up yo the Palestine cause ISRL has lost a whole new generation.
@barbarawarren9443
@barbarawarren9443 5 ай бұрын
Palestine and Hamas are not the same, any more than any political extremist US party and the majority of American citizens are the same.
@KIA-MIA-POW
@KIA-MIA-POW 5 ай бұрын
So how do you account for the fact that Hamas came to power on the back of an 80% popular vote?
@EthanLomas
@EthanLomas 5 ай бұрын
@@KIA-MIA-POW But Hamas is Gaza, not the West Bank, and they have not had elections since 2006. Unless Palestine acts like a state, Israel can NEVER allow them to continue their one-sided sob story and parasitic status
@barbarawarren9443
@barbarawarren9443 5 ай бұрын
@@KIA-MIA-POW I did not know that.
@shadowwolfkano
@shadowwolfkano 5 ай бұрын
​@@KIA-MIA-POW How do you account for years, Netanyahu allowed the Qatari government to send millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip - money that helped prop up the Hamas government? Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them. Israel empowered Hamas.
@KIA-MIA-POW
@KIA-MIA-POW 5 ай бұрын
@shadowwolfkano ...there are none so blind as those that can not see !
@humanistreason
@humanistreason 5 ай бұрын
It's recognizing the existence of a people, as deserving of all human rights just like us
@Charlie-phlezk
@Charlie-phlezk 5 ай бұрын
Free Palestinians from colonial settler apartheid war crimes. Israel created and supports Hummus
@arthurd6495
@arthurd6495 5 ай бұрын
wow, you got all the buzzwords in there. Yes to the current thing!
@olafsigursons
@olafsigursons 5 ай бұрын
20 years ago. It might surprise you, but things change in 20 years. Hamas is now a religious far-right organization.
@fralemieux
@fralemieux 5 ай бұрын
« a reward for terror » : What a perverse and disengenuous way to frame this decades long problem.... dehumanization is the problem.
@adornawas4325
@adornawas4325 5 ай бұрын
❤Free Palestine🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@ernestdoyle6937
@ernestdoyle6937 5 ай бұрын
From murderous ignorance! Yes!
@mohammedshafi9124
@mohammedshafi9124 5 ай бұрын
Really? Shame on you dw
@stephentutton2060
@stephentutton2060 5 ай бұрын
Statehood for Israel, but not Palestine? Also, why is Israeli permission required? Palestinians are human, reward them for that
@arthurd6495
@arthurd6495 5 ай бұрын
Gaza was Egyptian. West Bank was Jordanian. Where and when was Pelestine?
@sampicano
@sampicano 5 ай бұрын
@@arthurd6495 Why are all the history buffs pro Israel, and everyone who is uneducated pro Islam? Weird how that works
@Valentina.Montano
@Valentina.Montano 5 ай бұрын
​@@arthurd6495 when and where was Israel? Just create another country out of thin air AGAIN. At least Palestinians have more right to the land than Israel does according to International Law. because 5,000
@jankaufmann4305
@jankaufmann4305 5 ай бұрын
Individuals who reject human rights shouldn't be granted with them.
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs
@RicardoLopez-ub2hs 5 ай бұрын
israel left gaza in 2005. so much for land for peace.
@moiseshuerta3984
@moiseshuerta3984 5 ай бұрын
Left Gaza? Like a guard leaves a prison cell?
@suddenly_radical4558
@suddenly_radical4558 5 ай бұрын
Short answer: no Long answer: nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooo
@rockotter666
@rockotter666 5 ай бұрын
Lauren Blumenfeld is just a mouth for the US govt. THe US govt could just cut off weapons and aid to Israel and create a situation where Israel has no choice but peace and a 2 state solution. The US will never allow a 2 state solution.
@JashimUddin-bu4el
@JashimUddin-bu4el 5 ай бұрын
Fighting for freedom or against occupation and aggression is called freedom fighters not terrorists.
@HundkatzeFisch
@HundkatzeFisch 5 ай бұрын
Rape is not resistance
@davidwhittington7638
@davidwhittington7638 5 ай бұрын
No, invading a nation, you have have been preaching the death of since it conception, teaching hatred in schools, creating the myths of death, destroying their own people in horrific attacks, using human shields and murdering on the streets of democracies across the world, is TERRORISM.. What freedom do you envisage for those corrupted, indoctrinated and wanting death more than life?
@cyclomb
@cyclomb 5 ай бұрын
@@HundkatzeFisch Israelis did plenty of those
@HundkatzeFisch
@HundkatzeFisch 5 ай бұрын
@@cyclomb in your dreams
@cyclomb
@cyclomb 5 ай бұрын
@@HundkatzeFisch No it's in articles
@rickschroth9869
@rickschroth9869 5 ай бұрын
Really? Was Israeli rewarded as a country because of British walking away from terrorist Irgun? Was Begin rewarded for his leadership in this terrorist group?
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