Three Scientific Papers on the UFO Phenomenon

[@curtisdecoste9345]

Working night shift just got 100% better 😀 Thanks JMG.

[@FatRescueSwimmer04]

I was on the Nimitz in 2004 when that event took place, and tbh we had REALLY weird Data coming in all week also compiled with Eye Witness sightings of various things (in the sky AND ocean, things seemed to launch from the ocean and also return) from Sailors on our Carrier to the Pilots flying Missions especially our F-18 pilots who often tried to intercept these UAPs. I later was stationed on the USS Carl Vinson in 2006-2010 and we also had a lot of weird shit take place during most deployments, and I actually witnessed a few things myself. The thing that really freaked me out was when I and my buddy Richards were on Watch late at night... no moon was just pitch black out. Then all of a sudden a MASSIVE light deep in the ocean turned on, followed us for several miles then basically dipped out faster than a F18 would take off but under water. No fucking clue what it was, def not a Submarine or anything like that.... still gives me goose bumps decades later.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Just a question. While on the Nimitz during the 2004 event, did you hear any rumors of personnel wearing Air Force insignia arriving on ship and confiscating radar and FA-18 data?

[@Sevenigma777]

Bump so that maybe OP can see this and answer the question

[@JasonJohnContos]

You should totally be going public with this information and your story

[@SyntaxErr19287]

Bump OP answer pls

[@koekjeisdebeste]

Was it not a Chinese drone like Greenstreet told us.

[@roadkillanonymous4807]

Do you guys think aliens ever walk into rooms just to wonder what the heck they went in there for in the first place? Is this the universal experience of sentient life?

[@hakrj12]

Yes ... but planetary. "So here we are at earth ... wait ... what were we doing here again?"

[@eachday9538]

@@hakrj12 Oh, that's right, looking for my other sock

[@roadkillanonymous4807]

@@hakrj12 first contact ends up being confusing for all parties involved…they ask us if we know why they came here, we assume they’re being existential/philosophical about it and start talking about how we’re all made of stardust or invoking the existence of a Deity…they leave as confused as ever as to what the heck we were going on about and forget about this planet entirely after exploring numerous other star systems…we end up starting a religion based on the belief that all that’s wrong in the world can be traced back to our failure to answer their question in a satisfactory manner and that salvation of some kind will be obtained when we finally figure it out…someone will make a lot of money….oh well… 🤣

[@The..Dark..Knight]

@roadkillanonymous4807 LOL 😆 Then like 50 years later they happen to stop by again and see our religion and giant statues of the ship and of them and see us gathered in temples praying. But their conversation is- "Oh shit! Gleep come look at this! Remember when Octan came here high AF and asked these creatures if they knew why he came?" " Ya that was hilarious!" "These creatures thought he was being all deep asking a philosophical question!! They worship Octan!" "AHHHH HA HA HA! OMG! 🤣 Look at the statue! AHH HA HA! THE SHIP STATUE EVEN HAS THE DENT FROM WHEN OCTAN CRASHED! AHH HA HA! THEY THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE DESIGN! AHH HA HA HA! I JUST PEED A LITTLE! TAKE PICTURES! TAKE PICTURES!"

[@mr.flibble3190]

@@hakrj12 If extraterrestrial economics are anything like ours, this is *_not_* going to go over well.

[@andrewcollins1045]

You are bringing together science and the UFO in a way no one else is right now. Brilliant.

[@bvldr]

Astrum just dropped an awesome video on the subject as well. This topic has been stigmatized for too long

[@VikingTeddy]

@@bvldr For good reason unfortunately, alien believers pee in the pool. I'd be over the moon with joy to be proven wrong. But as long as there is nothing but anecdotal "evidence" of aliens, I'm going with Occams razor. The Navy videos have been debunked so many times it's getting tiring. Once actual data becomes available, I'll gladly review my opinion. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. I hope the phenomena gets looked in to level headedly, without UFO buffs muddying the research. It's a mystery that deserves attention. I love Astrum, but the latest video leaned a bit too much in to the fantastical imo.

[@lamaahruloma4270]

If it exists or not (I have own experience, but who knows what it is) it is too big to be overlooked for so long and because we havent got so many good explanations and many people saw something, it's a necessity. Disprove if not based, explain if based. It seems dangerous for airplanes and people. What about the military. France or Czechoslovakia basically confirmed it exists

[@watcher805]

It's been done but they werent listening before

[@twonumber22]

@@bvldr Astrum really didn't bring up the good explanations given by people like Mick West.

[@mrrob7531]

Mr Roboto…I love it. You are a gem to the KZbin community. Take a bow my friend…you deserve it.

[@bubbaschwartz]

I've learned a lot from John's channel, it's a great way to unwind after a stressful day before bedtime. Keep up the great work.

[@PeterGibbonns]

Do you like Bill Cosby?

[@bdetert82]

Absolutely JMG channel is a gem of YT.

[@halburd1]

really? i got 10 minutes in and quit over boredom

[@loucard4856]

@@halburd1 turd

[@TommyTCGT]

@@loucard4856 What did you learn Lou?

[@LAMPROS311]

Your videos inspire me to study Physics and Mathematics again in order to understand laws of nature on a more advanced level. Kalimera from Greece and take care of yourself!

[@SHDUStudios]

This is what I was waiting for. Excited to hear your updated take on it.

[@TommyTCGT]

But he told nothing new.. not a whisper of the B. Meier case, 700 face to face chats with human ets since 1943.

[@TommyTCGT]

With 20K pages of mind blowing et data. I'm still reading it since 1985, as the visits will continue till Meier passes. BTW, I'm not a nutter off the meds, but a Rtd. Airline Check Capt, East African and Cathay Pacific.. with multiple IFO sightings.

[@Imagezone61]

This was by far one of my favorite episodes. I have seen objects that I couldn't easily identify about a half a dozen times from the age of 12. That first one was in Florida, and was witnessed by my mother as well, and it was very close. I believe that I witnessed either the same one, or one just like it 20 years later in a different state which was talked about on the local news, and was witnessed by about 50 others along the Hudson river. Regardless if "proven" or not, there are many unexplained instances throughout history (mine in particular) that lend creedence to "something" presenting itself in our skies.

[@tomorbataar5922]

Thing is we have no idea what natural phenomena exist in our skies even today. It's uncharted territory, iirc even some lightning types were known by pilots well before it was even registered by scientific efforts. Unexplainable lights are most likely human activity, but if not we might as well call them dragons. But by experience one should expect nature. For example, the Hessdalen Lights in my country Norway is a verified and real phenomena that has been and still is studied by scientists. All results point toward some natural explanation for the lights, and theories explaining them exist, but so far we don't know what they are beyond that they exist. Did their verification cause a UFO craze? Absolutely! But it turns out they show no intelligent behavior, rather being in line with unexplained natural phenomena. Pure dragons. Or swamp gas if you want to get medieval.

[@Ben_the_Ignorant]

Nope, not unexplained. UFO's have been explained by Jacques Vallée in the late seventies and early eighties, in widely published books. Other researchers contributed, some even sooner, but he's the main guy in our time. While he's shy about calling them demons, he DEMONSTRATES, and not just states, that they are spiritual (he says extradimensional but it's the same) entities who create beliefs about them. Benevolent, advanced, scientific, not warsome, blah, blah, you know the stereotypes. Except benevolent scientific explorers would not need aggressive and intrusive kidnapping to do their science, and they would need no secrecy at all to begin with. So the conclusion of the complete facts and unmerciful logic is they are demons trying to pass for helpers when their real goal is to take over by gaining admiration and prestige. Now even the supposedly open-minded anomalists deny these facts for most of their crowd, and stick to the nuts-and bolts theory when facts and reason contradict it. So the choice is, go where the facts lead, or be a weather balloonist flat earther denier of truth.

[@TommyTCGT]

@@tomorbataar5922 No intelligent begavior? Are you nasa? Open, write in reverse.. moc.ylfyeht.

[@TheGreatest1974]

They are very real. I saw a craft very close up in 1989.

[@alfredsutton4412]

John, your work as a futurist is 🌟 🌟🌟🌟🌟. Please continue educating and entertaining us!

[@BrokenCircle1]

I have to say I quite like this channel. Videos aren't too long or too short and they aren't too hopeful or speculative. I like how you work with facts and logic rather than imagination. Every video I watch I learn something new.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

I also think that this could be a ripe territory for psychological studies. There is a human tendency to identify certain things in certain ways, and this tendency also tends to limit the ways people identify the things that they do not understand. And these intern can be, and generally are shaped by popular culture, cultural programming, language, etc.. that’s you see a massive increase in the number of UFO sightings, following Star Wars, and close encounters, because people are impressionable, and now they are looking for that stuff. That doesn’t mean that the stuff doesn’t exist, or that it does exist, simply about the way they perceive. It is going to be shaped by what they’ve seen in the media and elsewhere.

[@rei_momo]

I was really hoping you made a video about this ❤. Thanks JMG There's so much misinformation out there and the fact that media is just hard pressing on the subject makes me even more skeptical about the whole deal. Thanks for sharing this papers, i was really curious about this but i couldnt get ahold of anything scientifical speaking of it !!!

[@knightmare8083]

Wonder if any submarines have ever had encounters underwater that have been undetected or undisclosed. A tic tac could be stalking a sub right next to it and they'd never even know it's there.

[@ThunderboltWisdom]

In an interview with Linda Moulton Howe on Earth files channel an ex-navy guy reported being on a sub when something shot by them at amazing speeds. He heard it, so did everyone else, and instruments showed there was something there too. This is just one report out of many regarding USO's. This was reported on many years after it happened once he'd left the armed services.

[@supersmileyclub544]

Look up the Shag Harbour UFO, supposedly tracked by ships and subs

[@JohnnyWednesday]

If they are there, then whatever they're doing isn't "Stalking" because they never strike.

[@jacquesdemolay5171]

From what I've heard/read it's quite common. There's a lot of underwater activity that never sees the light of day in reports, etc. I believe Sean Cahill (ex-navy) was talking about just that quite recently in a podcast.

[@j0n275]

@@jacquesdemolay5171 Sean Cahill is a pos disinfo agent. NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE AT ALL. FFS use some discernment

[@zoop2132]

Very nicely done presentation, Mr. Godier. Excellent speaking voice and pace.

[@darktruths133]

I genuinely dont No why this channel hasnt got over a million subs its pure class 👏

[@alanbrady420]

Nothing better to watch before going asleep

[@RM-um9xx]

Your analyses are my favorite because you are so levelheaded about it; too many skeptics are way too dogmatic about their viewpoint.

[@jmd1743]

It's pretty interesting to see UFOs or Alien life in general go from Kook land to being taken serious. I wish I could see what the research will be like in 50 years from now, we'll probably find a exo-planet with basic life forms such as Algae by then.

[@Arowanas12]

I appreciate you making this! It’s refreshing to hear a scientific perspective on this. The History channel Docs and the like don’t feel authentic like this.

[@JAGzilla-ur3lh]

The History Channel docs, and UFO documentaries generally, don't give you anything like the full picture of the phenomenon. You want to look into the books for that. There are hundreds, of widely varying content and quality, and I recommend everyone read a few before forming any strong opinions either way. Jacques Valee's Passport to Magonia should definitely be one of them. But yes, videos like this are definitely important and appreciated.

[@aone9050]

even this is clearly a solution in search of proof unfortunately. honestly potentially more harmful than helpful, as it cedes ground to the ufo crazies, without setting the groundwork to have unbiased inquiry in to the topic. the solution, even for the gov uap releases, is far more easily proven as mundane.

[@robertc.4609]

Another great video as always John, I'm glad I stumbed upon your videos back during the first few on Tabb6's star. Very good to listen to and I plan to continue on for many years to come.

[@monochrome.f3ar403]

John, thank you so much for your content! You are a fantastic Gem and can’t wait for many more of your videos.

[@necrosunderground]

I hadn't heard about that Lakenheath-Bentwaters sighting in the 50's, I'm just familiar with the Rendlesham Forest sighting in 1980. Interesting that Bentwaters AFB was involved in both

[@-108-]

Pro tips: 1. Equalize your vocal track so that it's flat across the spectrum, with no spikes. 2. Take some vocal coaching sessions, centered on speaking. You have an incredible voice, and you can do awesome things with it if you get some guidance from a coach. Good luck!

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

John, KZbin keeps tossing your comments in the offensive bin and I can't let them through because it might affect the algorithm's response to promoting videos. I don't care about what you think of my delivery, I'm interested in the overall audience response which is in the top 1 percent of youtube. But if you're going to interact with KZbinrs, use your skills as a solicitor, if you actually are one, to make a properly presented professional argument so you get past KZbin's filters. Whether the KZbinr cares is meaningless, we don't because you aren't in our position, but on a channel where the creator doesn't moderate comments (vast majority), you'll never even get seen by anyone.

[@FrankWinchester]

​​@@JohnMichaelGodier your voice is individual, and fine to listen to. I get annoyed at many KZbin videos (talking to fast, audio isn't normalized and ads come on loudly, or not volume levelled etc). There's nothing really wrong with your audio except the EQ is bass heavy and could use flattening. PS: my family is full of well annunciated lawyers with gratingly irritating voices who speak with perfect inflection. Their primary accomplishment in life seems to be making one want to punch them in the face so you don't have to listen their voice anymore.

[@paulbyrne2893]

Ignore him JMG. You are a KZbin legend. Some of your rivals on here need his advice though (no names mentioned).

[@Easyfilm84]

Also drop the freakin weird “in which we liiiive” Very cringe

[@EspenAas-br8bg]

@@Easyfilm84 Not at all, it's good old fun.

[@FoolsGaming]

Love the content, John!

[@summer-west]

Really love the longer videos like these. Also when do we get to hear you being interviewed on your other channel? You would be an interesting guest. Still looking forward to that!

[@jaroslavpesek6642]

If you look into clouds, you can sometime see strange things. I once saw a shape of some invisible object impressed into a cloud. It looked like, when you impress a brick into something plastic. Other time i saw perfect triangle suddenly being impressed into a cloud, looked like something bumped into the cloud from below.

[@Nicitel94]

I too have seen something like this. Walking down the street in the middle day, looked straight up and saw something resembling a plane that might have been semi-transparent (don't remember it that clearly anymore, it's been like a decade ago) coming from behind a small cloud and two seconds later, half way to behind another cloud, it gradually went invisible completely.

[@tombird6089]

i STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING STRANGER THAN MY BATHROOM MIRROR REFLECTION FIRST THING IN THE MORNING!

[@TheTripleBogeyBoys]

I recommend watching a sunrise on a partly cloudy morning while after glowing from a beautiful evening LSD trip. The clouds will open up new worlds of geometry and “visions” will then follow. Watching the light slowly enter over the horizon. Absolutely alien

[@jaroslavpesek6642]

​@@TheTripleBogeyBoys Why use drugs, when you can learn to control your dreams and create anything you want.

[@tictackywacky9445]

Lovely video. The real science and believable testimony are why this is my favorite subject

[@hakrj12]

Thanks, John.

[@TheSouthernorycle]

Thank you John! This is what we need regardless of the final outcome and it’s implication(s).

[@LaurenMiddleton28]

John have you read Jacques Vallee brand new book? Richard Dolan goes over the best parts on his KZbin channel. Although honestly his richard Dolan members website has a far better deep dive. Vallee has been around Putoff and Edgar Mitchell & Bigelow. Lets not forget about Karl Wolfe who saw an actual base on the Moon. Gordon Cooper (astronaut) saw a UFO land at a dry lake bed.All these guys have the best credibility.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

I have it, but haven't yet dug in. I did read "Trinity". Interestingly, I had the pleasure of having had dinner with Dr. Vallee recently.

[@anonymousmouse4124]

Enjoyed this. Thanks, looking forward to the next one.

[@FruityGames1]

I hope you know how appreciated you are Michael. You are genuinely one of the best channels on KZbin and I’d love to see you on Joe Rogan

[@appliedphysicist]

I think it's important not to presume what an alien species would or wouldn't do in a contact scenario. For example, the sightings may be intentionally bizarre as to assess what humanity's response/reasoning and capabilities may be. One could even imagine it may be a generalized assessment method they use to gauge civilizations and their technology on any planet they may encounter. This would be consistent with first testing our ability to see them, followed by ability to chase them through the atmosphere, followed presumably by a chase through space (which we have yet to successfully achieve)

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

I think the 'curious' nature of these objects kind of resemble research craft. Imagine an Amazon tribe trying to explain the reasoning of some University student's drone. It'd be the same thing here, just instead of a research paper being written on an uncontacted tribe, its some aliens learning about Humanity.

[@CarlosSpicyWang]

JMG always delivers

[@danielgranda896]

John, thank you for this fascinating video. I have been studying this phenomena since I was a kid and saw lights in the sky doing things they should not be able to do. I am extremely encouraged by the strides taken to bring this phenomenon out of the fringe and into mainstream science. I tell my kids they are lucky to grow up in a time when scientists are taking this seriously. Thank you for your efforts and analysis. I have played your content for my 4 year old son and 7 year old daughter who are both fascinated by space and physics. I want them to understand the difference between science and science fiction.

[@punkypinko2965]

Excellent, balanced video. Thanks!

[@gabrielknight8988]

Instantly hooked by the title looking forward to the next one!

[@johnqpublic2718]

I've been subscribed for a while but rarely interact with the videos beyond listening/viewing. Thanks for all the content and apologies for taking you for granted, Mr. Godier.

[@danelynch7171]

Just liking and dropping a brief comment is good for his channel.

[@pmajudge]

OUTSTANDING! MANY THANKS MR. JOHN MICHAEL GODIER. FROM, U.K. (2023).

[@papabee5680]

Keeping pumping that information out, John. We’re almost there.

[@jldstuff393]

Phrasing

[@doncarlodivargas5497]

The only thing missing are the actual UFOs

[@Voshchronos]

@@jldstuff393 The mystery of the F.A.P. phenomenon.

[@johnmurray3346]

Not even close to “there” all here-say sorry

[@leandromarini2762]

Thank you sir! I listen every single day

[@joemama640]

Aliens/Van Neuman probes watching these videos to be one step ahead...

[@wonderlust2177]

Been a while since I belly laughed😂😂 thx

[@y5mgisi]

Very enjoyable channel. And as always, I love your sign off!

[@NullStaticVoid]

A friend and I had an UFO or UAP experience in Berkeley Ca in the 90s. It was nothing like the little green men in a flying saucer stories. The whole experience is quite bizarre because it took place at 3pm on a sunny summer day with many people from the UC Berkeley campus walking by unfazed. The phenomena defies description because it was basically a hole in our perception. You could not look at it. We also couldnt stop walking to look or turn our heads in the direction. Except I’m different than most folks. I’ve been doing mindfullness meditation since I was 10 because I’m ADHD. Thats maybe the reason I think that I couldn’t help but notice something was compelling me and others to NOT notice it. I was able to talk to my friend in a strained way. “What is that?” He replied “just…keep…walking” robotically. My friend is extremely superstitious and refuses to talk about it since. And I have NEVER read a similar account. Its always stories about space guys in a space car. Doing sexy stuff or cattle mutilation. Basically all those stories sound like us projecting our lifestyle on something we dont understand.

[@Nauj1017]

Dude, trip out. I had a somewhat similar situation around '13-'14, and it happened to me and my friend in the city of Huntington Park, CA. We were sitting outside his apartment, eating a box of pizza because we had just come back from skating. I was probably 18-19 at the time. So, we were munching on the pizza, and I suddenly noticed my friend (his name is Luis) looking up at the sky. I asked him, 'What the f are you doing, Luis?'He took a moment to respond, 'What the fuck? Look at that thing in the sky!' To my surprise, we were both staring at a huge triangle shape in the sky. It was a bit cloudy, so we had to squint our eyes, but once you noticed it and its size, it was mind-boggling. I swear, that thing was enormous, like the size of a football field. It seemed to be camouflaged among the clouds, almost see-through. I remember seeing it disappear. I bring this up every few years with Luis just to reassure myself that it actually happened."

[@fonziebulldog5786]

From someone who years back observed one of these UFO,s hovering while pulsating in a weird light like a human breath in a wooden area before it took of to the sky in a incredible speed i must say these videos cant change my mind of what these UFO, couldnt be or are because i watched one of these and it will for sure never leave my mind.

[@UppurMGMT]

What ever it is it’s come very far to visit us. I hope maybe in this lifetime we see something that finally leaves every skeptic speechless. As humans living now we’ve come so far inventing so many things I feel like it’s owed to this generation to see something before we expire. We can help the people ahead of us the same way the greats helped us. If your reading this in the year 1 million just know i thought of you.

[@AT-SOI]

Sempre un ottimo lavoro JMG! 👽✌

[@aspiratedaloha2946]

Thanks JMG! Always enjoyable

[@andrikpalaciosc]

I like that you're open to the possibility that we don't exaclty know everything!

[@strawhataddison]

A+ video, as usual. Fantastic job👍

[@StaypuftTheMarshmallowMan]

Sometimes I forget to like these vids when I watch them before I go to sleep and I apologize JMG. ❤ Love all your content!

[@geemanbmw]

John I wish you did JMG videos for as long as you do EH videos like 60 minutes to 90 minutes of that would be really great ❤

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

I wish I could, but I only go as long as the information I have to send along allows. Once I've said what I have material for, it's done. With interviews, it's way easier to go long as there is an active dynamic conversation taking place between me and someone else. We are however combining content from both channels into very long video compilations on the JMG Clips channel for those that want really long form content.

[@TransRoofKorean]

Excellent, thank you. 12:15 -- I wonder if it might be in my lifetime that our physics gets close to comprehending what's going on.

[@oiocha5706]

Damn I love when John talks UFOs 👽

[@TedToal_TedToal]

Another good video! Regarding “an element of irrationality“. This is an essential component of the “slow leak“ hypothesis. If aliens want to slowly make their presence known to earthlings over, say, a century or more, how would they do it? How could they gradually raise the level of awareness in human cultures without triggering a sudden transition from skeptical to believing and perhaps frightened? The slow leak hypothesis has them controlling the rate of spread of knowledge of alien existence by including elements of irrationality whenever they allow themselves to be seen. This ensures that reports from the sightings will be taken with a grain of salt by everybody, and it gives governments a way to poo, poo the phenomenon and keep hysteria at bay.

[@deadslash736]

Thanks for another great video - QUESTION: You mentioned that the UAP phenomena were displaying behaviors that seemed to indicate they were not of alien origin. Did I miss what that behavior was, or is it never mentioned. Is that something that is "common knowledge?" Should I know?

[@petesandwich3246]

I think he is referring to the way the object seems to toy with the navy. Which seems kinda weird for an alien to do. But as John has mentioned in previous videos himself it’s foolish to assign our psychology towards and alien species in how it may interact or behave. Not saying he’s wrong, it’s weird and totally valid to weigh against aliens in this case. But like I am biased towards thinking it’s aliens(since it’s exciting). I believe he’s biased in thinking it’s not since he finds it terrifying.

[@bikesnblades6737]

​@@petesandwich3246 if that's what he's talking about, I don't really see the point. It makes sense if we assume the scary idea that they're not friendly or at least that they're unsure about us. The first thing you'd do is identify the biggest potential threat and probe it the best you can to assess its capability. So them toying with the navy kinda makes sense, either in order to assess the potential of their aircraft or to check if any hostile action will be provoked through a display of superior and potentially threatening technology. I'm not saying it's aliens, but if you have the tech that easily enables you to tease but never get caught, you can learn something from these encounters.

[@olddecimal2736]

It could just as easily be military exercises arranged for any number of purposes. I think the weird thing to do is believe it’s anything based on assumptions or imagination. It’s just religious thinking at that point

[@srslywtfcl4p404]

@@bikesnblades6737 It is more that a bunch of people report to have UAP's following their cars or "parking" in the middle of roads and such, as if they want to be seen

[@chrisdraughn5941]

@@bikesnblades6737 The “toying” aspect makes me suspect humans even more so. We know for a fact that humans are actively developing technology and tactics to confuse and defeat radar operators and pilots. The fact these incidents occurred in airspace designated as training areas is significant, as is their proximity to know research and development facilities. I think the chances are much higher that a R&D project was being operated with poor oversight and management. Aliens isn’t even a close second.

[@rodneykelly8768]

There is a question I have recently considered. Did U-2 and SR-71 pilots see jets and sprites shooting off the tops of powerful storms? We know about jets and sprites now, but back in the 60s and 70s, when I was growing up, I never heard anyone talking about them. These pilots must have seen them, but thought they were lightning. There must have been a few that noticed that they were different, but didn't think it was worth losing their flight status to report. Does anyone know if this possibility happened?

[@shaneoconnor5319]

Jmg is both a mind expander and an expander of ideas…….

[@stevep5408]

I've seen UAPs twice in my life, the last in Portugal in the winter of 2019, I got a couple of stills of. Witnessed by another person who wasn't with me at the time. Hovered long enough to walk back in the bungalow for me to grab my phone!

[@coffeebeardtv]

John your videos are amazing

[@uladzimirdarozka3882]

Right what I needed for my morning coffee (: thank you JMG!

[@gimli1908]

Yay new JMG!!

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

I believe in unidentified aerial phenomenon, which is to say I believe that people see things that they can not readily explain in the atmosphere. I've seen a number of things in the air I couldn't explain, but I am fairly confident that had I had sufficient knowledge or better data they would have been either mundane or have a natural explanation. But when I was younger I was on a Boy Scout camping trip and a friend of mine and I observed a stationary object that was partially obscured by clouds that appeared to be mechanical in nature, and while we had no way of judging its scale it appeared to be larger than any conventional aircraft other than a dirigible, which it somewhat but did not quite resemble. We watched it for some time until it was entirely obscured by clouds. Years later after I got out of the army that friend asked me to confirm that this sighting actually happened and we discovered we agreed on the details of this sighting. What was it? How the hell would I know? I cannot even offer reasonable speculation as to what it might have been and I cannot rule out the possibility that it was an alien spacecraft, however unlikely I find that idea. Equally it could have been some sort of classified lighter-than-air craft doing Lord knows what, which is also pretty unlikely. There is simply not enough data to reach any sort of reasonable conclusion about the sighting so I don't try. It's kind of like when an archeologist is shown an image of a purported anachronistic object. The reaction is generally, 'Huh. That's weird.' They simply don't have enough data to formulate a useful response and they don't try. Perhaps with an informed set of parameters for what to look for they can find a loose thread to start to unravel some of these phenomenon. I'll be watching with interest.

[@wonderlust2177]

To be fair, you probably had to have big cookies to try and inform your local priest/king/emperor that you saw sky people in metal plates, because they would probably let out a healthy laugh then throw you away in a dungeon or just outright expire you for being possessed or a heretic. . .

[@drevil3606]

Burnt at the stake usual outcome

[@Sarappreciates]

Oumuamua is the best UFO I've heard of in my lifetime. We got no idea how many like it have passed us by before. The most unusual thing about it was likely that we noticed it at all.

[@Davidcallard]

Thank you Ĵohn for your grounded and scientific research into the UFO phenomenon. Yes, it certainly would be mighty helpful to have some pin - sharp photography of the wide variety of reported UFO 's, even a craft or two, no such thing exists, at least to the extent of our public knowledge because we have learnt that any privately ĥeld information has à wày òf disappearing ìnto impenetrable gov't files never to see the light of day. We know that much of the best data is thus lost to researchers.

[@mikeharrington5593]

Thought provoking indeed & worthy of detailed analysis of any good quality related data.

[@hermes63]

The most interesting video for me. I followed the UFO/abduction issues years ago, and found that there were some people trying to do their best with what they had, despite the visionaries and "experts". Jacques Vallée's ideas are for me the most we can learn right now from the phenomena. P: Mutilated cows are a part? I believe that interstellar travel for any alien fellows would mean problems like us: would be for them as inconceivable expensive enterprise with doubtful (if any) return, each step dozen or hundred times harder than the previous; and the distances so discouraging huge, and the challenge to built a reliable and useful ship, and the unsolved problem of energy, water, food and survivability in such distances, as it is for us. So I don't think UFOs are ships from another planet, but "they" seem to want us to believe that. So why? Wtf it is? Is there a part of reality that science has deliberately ignored?

[@majestic1222]

Thanks for upload,👍

[@drockjr]

Ha! You said bussard collector. I understood that reference! Thanks Star Trek.

[@callanhutchison1871]

Anyone else notice that the Pink Floyd song “Shine on You Crazy Diamond” so definitively became the best Space Rock song of all time that Jon’s go to stock music backing track for the first half of many of his videos, including this one, is just plainly trying to imitate it?

[@disgruntl3dv3t]

Another great video JMG

[@MCsCreations]

2 thing, John... I would love to see any data, if it still exists, from the Brazilian official UFO night... The second thing is about Oumuamua. Imagine it was an artificial object, but not a solar sail... Imagine it was a big ship bringing probes to study our solar system. By throwing them back it would gain acceleration. How much I have no idea, I'm not a physicist... But it's interesting either way. Anyway, thanks a bunch for the video! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Saxxin1]

I've been subscribed for years but never get alerts for your channel when you have a new post.

[@harryseldon362]

Very good presentation on the conflicting ideas regarding the ufo phenomenon. I think the time travel theory explains a lot and travelling through time is easier than travelling through space according to our standard model. The problem with Loeb's theory is that it only applies to recent history completely ignoring evidence from the past.

[@76rjackson]

Because of the fact that the earth itself is travelling through space, time travel is also of necessity space travel. Think about how traveling back in time six months without traveling through space , too, would land you in the empty spot in orbit where the earth was when you "energized" your time machine.

[@ravenragnar]

I believe that the UFO phenomenon is a topic that has the potential to teach us about ourselves and the true nature of our universe.

[@freehat2722]

To expand on considering shapes, if the flying object uses a very strong laser shot in the direction of travel, it may cut a path temporarily through the atmosphere to lessen drag. Food for thought. It could also be used as a diversion while they cloak themselves.

[@jimpatterson5524]

excellent thought. That precludes ionization of the immediate atmosphere by an ultra fast moving object as well. What i keep hearing is people trying to jam these phenomena into known science and physical laws.

[@verseomega]

“People seeing strange things in sky go back to the beginning of humanity…and perhaps before”…😅that is so freaking amazing…#greatresearch…

[@mayerkorchin-vv9vt]

Yes I think that natural explanations should be pursued as much as possible.

[@wordclock707]

I think it's silly to presume that humanity will find intelligent life before it finds us. I think it far more likely that they have already discovered us first...and likely quite a long time ago.

[@adlockhungry304]

It’s probably silly to presume anything with regard to extraterrestrial intelligence, since we have zero data from which make extrapolations.

[@TheSCPStudio]

I find it silly that you think intelligent life needs to be space faring or even advanced. And that you don't seem to grasp JUST how difficult space travel is.

[@zerochill1403]

It's extremely unlikely, really. It's only been the last 70 years that we have been remotely interesting from space... with travel time even approaching speed of light travel that limits the possible area of space to lease than 30 light years at max which is a teeny portion of space. If life were that common in the universe we would likely have seen evidence of it by now. It's not impossible but its so unlikely to be close to it.

[@geemanbmw]

​@EpicSC you my friend get it 👍🏻 Interstellar travel is beyond difficult. Too many people be thinking Hollywood lol

[@wordclock707]

@@TheSCPStudio I'm aware of how difficult interstellar travel is with current human technology. I'm not going to project that limitation on another advanced technological civilization.

[@zionnofate]

Hello John I absolutely love your channel. It is the best on KZbin! Have you ever heard of the westall ufo landing Victoria Australia back in the 1966? I only watched it yesterday. I just don't understand why this is always overlooked and also the same sighting in Nigeria.

[@mangoo7879]

Zimbabwe not Nigeria

[@zionnofate]

@@mangoo7879 yeah, thanks!

[@londonspade5896]

@@mangoo7879 Rhodesia not Zimbabwe

[@Mrbfgray]

If I was the observer, like to think I'd ONLY watch, let evolution run it's course to see if by rare circumstance *this* particular civilization could prove itself a survivor.

[@petesandwich3246]

To interfere with humanity will only ruin the scientific value of the study of the emergence and development of intelligence in the universe.

[@fdkfskfkvmk441254741]

The Theran incident in Iran is a very interesting one, the iranian pilot had green light to shoot down the UFO but all the electronics of the plane mal functioned.

[@Easyfilm84]

So the thing about that is, those jets were Jank as fuck. They would malfunction often in a similar manner. It was fairly conclusively proven the pilots were chasing Venus.

[@todgerx]

Hey Michael, live you're content. Thank you, I really appreciate it.. 👍 Just curious have u ever done a video about the double slit experiment? Just what the heck is going on there? Why do the particals behave differently when they are being observed vs when they are not being observed. I'm blown away by this. I've heard a lot of different theories. Would like to hear you're take. Thanks.. 👍

[@Man_fay_the_Bru]

The atom shows off when it knows someone is watching it,TikTok atoms

[@lamaahruloma4270]

Great! As it seems now, maybe I will one day figure out, what was the little pale visitor without any protective gear at my home, that almost caused me an infarct - it was whole from anatomic view, our of this world. I don't know if it's possible for it to be from other world, it wasn't looking alien or scary or soulless or robotic, it was like mixture of two groups of vertebrates. I am sorry about bothering with this story, but it had a big impact on me. I thought the Grey aliens are a childish Fairy Tales. I have tried to explain it together with a nurse and doctor, but it didn't fit.

[@despizedicon]

Well done video JMG

[@kernsanders3973]

It goes further back than WW2. There are accounts of quite a few people from the Victorian and Edwardian periods describing what we would call the UFO Phenomenon. One of the more intriguing ones are prolific academics experiences. "Think Anomalous" is a great channel covering some of the more older and obscure accounts. It gets especially crazy when looking at the accounts from before humans achieved flight. Nuremberg 1561 being especially intriguing. What I think help boost the WW2 era accounts more than the previous is because it was recent enough to actually speak with first hand witnesses as well the advancement of photography. This is when the photographic evidence discussion and critique to the phenomenon started to arise

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Yeah, but the thing there is the further back you go, the less people had to go on for interpretation. If a bunch of people saw something in 1561 and wrote it down, most of them probably thought it was religious in nature and that's going to color the accounts. People 400 years later look at it and say it must be a modern UFO, without taking that problem into account. Two different biases. With 1561, there's one source, a broadsheet, and half of it is religious admonishments. It looks more like Fatima than a modern UFO sighting. What you don't see, or at least I haven't found, are accounts from nearby cities of seeing the same thing. If you've got an aerial war and the sun behaving weird, you're gonna see that across all of Bavaria, not just Nuremberg. This is not the case for meteorite falls, such as Ensisheim in 1492, where you see multiple accounts of the fireball from France and the Holy Roman Empire and they very descriptively recorded it, found the meteorite, and then chained the meteorite up in a church to keep it from wandering off the way it came on the order of the Holy Roman Emperor. We can now test that rock and tell it actually is a meteorite. If we're going to extend back from 1945, we're going to need some inter-community exchange between the UFO community and the scientific community along with the historians on just how people before our modern age interpreted things. I think it's just much better to take a modern data set with modern instrumentation and watch the sky and start fresh. Then we can look at the historical accounts if we find something interesting and really try to figure out if there was something weird going on in the past that might correlate to the modern day sightings. Take a look and then work backwards if that makes sense.

[@haunter124]

Right. Ever since people existed they've been seeing these things. The farther back you go the more people have seen them. There's accounts of sightings since humankind first learned to record things for posterity. Literally ALL ancient cultures still tell stories of "the sky gods" and such. Many of those cultures actually report meeting with them.

[@ChewyLoo]

@@JohnMichaelGodier The prudent approach

[@maha-madpedo-gayphukumber1533]

First time someone has done right analysis on ufo. In history of ufo phenomenon.

[@jerlee620]

I’m rather disappointed Dr. Loeb has essentially joined forces with the DoD. I’m a proud American and have faith that the government has our best interests in mind. The UFO topic is a different matter. I sincerely hope the Galileo Project doesn’t turn into an iteration of Project Bluebook.

[@deepjoshi1333]

Excellent John!

[@lamaahruloma4270]

Thank you enorm mously for this video. I love astrophysics and Planetology, but the UFO and alien encounter are too much for me, to let me sleep, but I don't want have money to do research.

[@laszlozoltan5021]

I like the sane, rational presentation here. We have at most an "interesting" collection of stories presented to us by 3rd parties that piques our curiousity and wastes our time.

[@haunter124]

You should look into CE-5. Rationality goes out the window when you realize you can call them to you with just a few minutes of focused meditation.

[@lajinmark2084]

Space Alien Here: After a long flight escaping the Betelgeus system (which is about to go Super Nova) there is nothing better than getting out, crawling around and drawing pictures all over the Plains of Nazca! I enjoy making those Tarantula scratchings myself! We've been Big Fans of ''I Love Lucy'' & ''The Curse of JOak Island'' for years now. It is quite surprising how violent the society has become since you almost destroyed each other in WW2. We are working on Super Special Titanium Bulletproof vests before we come back & take over for the Final time. Rod Serling has an episode of the ''Twilight Zone'' devoted to our TTP. Tactics, Techniques & Procedures.

[@davidvomlehn4495]

Distance, speed, and size are interdependent values and extremely difficult for visual observers to estimate for objects in the sky. We can discount almost all reports on these quantities unless there the object is in front of or behind some known object. Radar is another matter.

[@Toonhai]

One of last voices I want to listen. Thank you

[@Toonhai]

I have few experiences which make me thinking what theywere. Nobody wants to talk with me

[@chromabotia]

Thanks, that was a breath of fresh air..

[@Melkur1981]

All I know is, I have no idea what is going on. Sometimes, that's way more interesting than knowing the truth.

[@gavinjameslux]

Wow released before the congressional hearings an OG

[@gluonone]

Hello John great video on the subject. I find your channel spectacular and I learned so much. I was wondering what you thought of Tucker Carlson, and his coverage of the UAP phenomenon and if he had any legitimate points as well.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Well, ya know, I think he has a legitimate interest in the subject. He's puzzled, and so am I. We all are. And he's looking in the right areas to investigate it, he interviewed Garry Nolan which was good. It's good that he's talking about it. But he's a politics guy, and I'm not, so it's good he's talking about it and raising questions but there is a danger he could try to connect it to politics and that just won't work, if you get my meaning.