2024 Porsche Cayenne S vs The Cheapest V8 Cayenne You Can Buy

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The 2024 Porsche Cayenne S ($149,770 as specced in Canada, $129,820 in the US) is now back in V8 format after several years of V6 power. But how does it compare to the cheapest V8 of yesteryear we could find, a 2009 Porsche Cayenne S being sold for just $10,995 in Canada (~$7,970 USD converted). The new Cayenne S boasts some serious power and can be optioned to the moon, but the older Cayenne has some rugged character and costs less than just a few options on the new one. How far has the Cayenne come in 15 years? Thomas and James are excited to find out! We hope you enjoy the episode! And then subscribe, silly.
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@am0eba168
@am0eba168 10 ай бұрын
Man I love this old vs new/ cheap vs expensive series
@Edgycoo
@Edgycoo 10 ай бұрын
its like my mom vs your mom
@CARGEARR
@CARGEARR 10 ай бұрын
SUBSCRIBE ❤
@TheGodofSEO
@TheGodofSEO 10 ай бұрын
Same
@chrischen8602
@chrischen8602 10 ай бұрын
Same here, just so much fun
@dustingre8
@dustingre8 10 ай бұрын
I like to watch them because I’m hoping one day they prefer the older cheaper one over the new one 😆
@mikepaquette5711
@mikepaquette5711 10 ай бұрын
It is extremely fascinating how Porsche went back to the V8 in an era where combustion engines are getting smaller and smaller. Their commitment to fun, engaging cars has always impressed me.
@verhu010
@verhu010 10 ай бұрын
They know how to make money.
@imhaydenmelrose
@imhaydenmelrose 10 ай бұрын
@@verhu010 Giving people what they want tends to do that.
@danielzhang1916
@danielzhang1916 10 ай бұрын
it's not surprising when you can get 200 hp from a 4 cylinder now, even V6 and V8 are disappearing
@mjflit
@mjflit 10 ай бұрын
People who can afford a high spec cayenne don't give a shit about fuel economy.
@jaycho6747
@jaycho6747 9 ай бұрын
Cause you're paying V8 Prices when it breaks down.
@TrigonAZR
@TrigonAZR 10 ай бұрын
Those "old vs new" videos are by far my favourite on TH. You're doing amazing work guys
@cingkole7893
@cingkole7893 10 ай бұрын
same
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
Carwow should take note of that.
@discorddiscord2647
@discorddiscord2647 10 ай бұрын
They are the only ones I watch and reason to subscribe
@ryanmatthew511
@ryanmatthew511 2 ай бұрын
Where do they talk about the real world repair costs.
@TrigonAZR
@TrigonAZR 2 ай бұрын
@ryanmatthew511 I don't think they ever do. But it's common sense that parts and labour for a 10 year old cayenne, s-class or a Bentley will stay horrendous. One of my friends bought a used a6 allroad a long time ago and he quickly found out that despite the car being cheap, maintenance was anything but
@babyteeth4
@babyteeth4 10 ай бұрын
Perfect comic timing on that opening bit! Another great video, guys!
@jeanridelbasigura8023
@jeanridelbasigura8023 10 ай бұрын
Real talk! 😂It was too perfect, I wonder if someone pulled a string in the back. ❤ it!
@BS-xl8uk
@BS-xl8uk 10 ай бұрын
We owned a 2006, bought new, the back of the seat fell off as well in a couple of years. In addition at 52k miles, the ceramic manifold cracked. Porsche would not warranty it. It took a class action lawsuit to get reimbursed. It drove and braked nicely for a heavy car but under powered.
@oceanNmotoWoman
@oceanNmotoWoman 10 ай бұрын
I LOL'd pretty hard at that bit. So good.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
​@@BS-xl8ukthe 45k Cayenne do the job better.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
​@@jeanridelbasigura8023the 2024 Cayenne imo is 22kgs heavier than the old Cayenne.
@jvr2401
@jvr2401 10 ай бұрын
Throttle House has become my Top Gear replacement. Love every video
@lakin8r
@lakin8r 10 ай бұрын
Ditto
@Emolokz
@Emolokz 10 ай бұрын
They REALLY DO have the same dynamic as Clarkson/Hammond/May, and I love every minute of it.
@TheWarehamster
@TheWarehamster 10 ай бұрын
​@@EmolokzThrow Jason Cammisa in with them and you've got the perfect top gear replacement. And Randy Pobst can be the Stig equivalent.
@atmartens
@atmartens 10 ай бұрын
@@TheWarehamster10000% agreed. MotorTrend needs to give them a show and stop the stupid muscle shows they are doing.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
​@@EmolokzHammond from Drivetribe joining TH could be nice also.
@ProfFit1910
@ProfFit1910 10 ай бұрын
i did an apprenticeship a few years ago in a porsche dealership and we did a service on a first gen cayenne s belonging to a forest ranger. It had 392.000km and was still running strong besides being constantly offroaded
@accordv6er
@accordv6er 8 ай бұрын
First gens were really over engineered so lots of annoying crap to eventually break, but mostly solid. My dads 06 Turbo S was flawless for engine/transmission at 155k, but the key stuck in the ign, worn bushings, few oil leaks etc, everything added up to not be worth it really and he bought a new base model, (2019 at the time) still has it and absolutely loves it. Know a few folks taking them over 200k miles. (330ish km)
@radezzientertainment501
@radezzientertainment501 5 ай бұрын
my uncles cayenne finally retired at dang near 275k miles, blew me away everytime i got the chance to drive it or even be a passenger, made porsche my dream car maker for sure
@yongtimlim5038
@yongtimlim5038 3 ай бұрын
It’s a truck not an suv
@ProfFit1910
@ProfFit1910 3 ай бұрын
@@yongtimlim5038 nope in Europe they are called SUVs as they are not built on a ladder frame
@inn8media
@inn8media 11 күн бұрын
6 or 8?
@2ChannelListening
@2ChannelListening 10 ай бұрын
Mad Mats, new character! You guys are the greatest car reviewers/entertainers, exactly what we need right now.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
The 2006 Cayenne kinda reminded me to Cayenne from SHOX (PS2 RALLY GAME BY EA SPORTS BIG).
@aydenchurchill8447
@aydenchurchill8447 10 ай бұрын
As an owner of a 2009 Cayenne this is SPOT ON. The back of the seats, lift gate, build quality. Everything you guys said is absolutely true. I was laughing to how relatable and true the review was. You 2 are the best!
@oskarjennische2490
@oskarjennische2490 10 ай бұрын
how is reliability tho?
@lamp7746
@lamp7746 10 ай бұрын
@@oskarjennische2490horribly unreliable
@aydenchurchill8447
@aydenchurchill8447 10 ай бұрын
@@oskarjennische2490 200k miles and still running strong.
@oskarjennische2490
@oskarjennische2490 10 ай бұрын
@@aydenchurchill8447 would love to get one once i finnish university, although they give me that drugdealer vibe that i absolutely dislike. i can hopefully do most maintenance myself, i've worked a bit on older cars
@carlatashkadeh5890
@carlatashkadeh5890 10 ай бұрын
He is absolutely wrong about the headlights on the facelift tho. The gen1 is terrible. The gen2 lights still look sick considering its age
@BillBilly-p6o
@BillBilly-p6o 10 ай бұрын
I drive an 09 cayenne, had the headlights replace to get rid of the fog. Still runs amazingly and has a lot of underrated bells and whistles for the price. Also the front end is way more attractive than the current cayenne. Mine is black on black and it looks like it just came out of the factory paint and leather wise
@bethestandardallday
@bethestandardallday 10 ай бұрын
How many miles
@BillBilly-p6o
@BillBilly-p6o 10 ай бұрын
@@bethestandardallday 140k
@hubzymalone9562
@hubzymalone9562 7 ай бұрын
My mom got the same one they got in the video but when it came out. There roasting the looks cuz they got the shittiest looking color and rims on it. But it has a timeless design its classy the newer one is too edgy and sharp. black on black is niceee with it if u blacked out the matt chrome, ours is champagne gold, so it matches, and mojac beige interior with mahogany trim and gts 21' rims.
@dereklwashington1132
@dereklwashington1132 10 ай бұрын
I use to be a Doug guy. But once i found these guys i just can't even listen to his voice anymore. These guys are the perfect balance of fun and information. Love these vs videos!
@downhillwithoutskills6046
@downhillwithoutskills6046 10 ай бұрын
So true, couldn't stand listening to him either
@richiesworld1
@richiesworld1 6 ай бұрын
They're so different, idk why it needs to be either/or 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️
@hefic
@hefic 6 ай бұрын
He knows a lot and gets great cars, but the narration is keeping me off watching. @downhillwithoutskills6046
@williambauer4826
@williambauer4826 5 ай бұрын
“THIIIISSSSS IS..” Doug isn’t funny. He has passion and he gives thorough looks at cars’ interiors, but he never criticizes and his review metrics are dry. He also only looks at the most expensive of the most expensive. It’s great if you’re a Chinese international student or a 4th grader, but looking at the Koenigsegg Dildo 300x+ 1 limited edition a2+b2=c2 v17 rear-seat stitch quality for the 50th time is fucking annoying. It’s like he worships expensive shit.
@brandonharris5152
@brandonharris5152 10 ай бұрын
Im a former mechanic. That 10k Porsche will be the most expensive car you ever bought
@alexanderg7171
@alexanderg7171 6 ай бұрын
I’m a current owner of that model, and I can confirm your comment.
@paulomendoza94
@paulomendoza94 6 ай бұрын
How much should you put aside for repairs and maintenance?
@bv2458
@bv2458 6 ай бұрын
💯true
@woodstock_wolfpack
@woodstock_wolfpack 6 ай бұрын
Your comment is far over exaggerated and most likely uneducated
@builtdifferent8106
@builtdifferent8106 5 ай бұрын
@@woodstock_wolfpackno it is not
@MatthewGaither
@MatthewGaither 10 ай бұрын
Old school Cayenne's are pretty great off-roaders actually. And I would say they have a lot more personality than the new ones. Great video, team!
@Spenny909
@Spenny909 10 ай бұрын
Yes. I have both old and new Turbo S. The old one had loads more character in the drive feel. Oodles of grip and heavy steering.
@oskarskalski2982
@oskarskalski2982 10 ай бұрын
I remember one of the early top gear videos about a cayenne and I was flabbergasted how good it was off-road. Although I was young and native back then;), but nevertheless it was capable.
@steadybreeze1443
@steadybreeze1443 10 ай бұрын
Agree.. drove the 2009 -2012 and was pretty impressed on road feel and character… let’s see the GTS review old and new one in great condition.. comparing new and poor condition old is not a good match
@bjornar9026
@bjornar9026 10 ай бұрын
But they are UGLY - inside and out.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
​@@Spenny9092005 Porsche Boxster still is FIRE like RUF 3400S.
@lanceareadbhar
@lanceareadbhar 10 ай бұрын
They should always include an asterisk on the old car price as there seems to be a noticeable difference in the price they found it for and the price listed after the video becomes popular.
@Xaiux
@Xaiux 10 ай бұрын
I mean this one is only $1k more now
@Lukeywoodsey
@Lukeywoodsey 10 ай бұрын
I mean you can get them easily for £7k in the UK, it'll fall apart but still
@Afraz_9n3
@Afraz_9n3 10 ай бұрын
​​@@Lukeywoodseyyou can get them for as cheap as £1500 in the UK but it WILL be shit😂😂
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
​@@Xaiuxthe old still powerful than the new Cayenne.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
​@@Afraz_9n3as awful as Honda S600 for sure 😂
@wattscoulter1308
@wattscoulter1308 10 ай бұрын
I drove a 2008 Cayenne S 4.8as my first car and had to get rid of it after 5 years last year and man did seeing this video take me back to some good memories especially the back of the drivers seat falling into the backseat🤣. Quite the handful of problems but when everything was running smoothly it was one of the greatest first cars to exist
@Seriesxnation
@Seriesxnation 10 ай бұрын
do u regret selling it or the repairs not worth the headache , would u rather get a Japanese or American v8 suv?
@wattscoulter1308
@wattscoulter1308 9 ай бұрын
@@Seriesxnationafter taking it in for inspections it would have been 10k in repairs to get it back on the road, so the car wasn’t worth that. But because of the cayenne I’m team German all the way
@5harkbyte460
@5harkbyte460 Ай бұрын
@@wattscoulter1308 Looking at a low mileage GTS. Curious to know how many miles were on your by the time all the issues arose and you decided to move on from it.
@paulwest9474
@paulwest9474 10 ай бұрын
Mad Mats with the paintball was truly hilarious, I seldom laugh out loud at stuff on YT, but now im wiping away tears !. You guys are terrific
@marijnderuiter
@marijnderuiter 10 ай бұрын
I am so psyched! I literally bought a 2007 with 80000km on the clock yesterday and then this video comes out and proves I made the right decision. Also mine was 5% of the original price here in Malaysia thanks to heavy taxes. I got one with regular suspension because 15 years later the price of a new set of air suspension from Porsche costs more than the car, it's very likely to break soon and recons or Chinese will also break within 6 months. So to all other prospective buyers; find one without PDCC!
@fredbrackely
@fredbrackely 10 ай бұрын
Enjoy it while it lasts - hint it won't be long.
@rajanrairealty8979
@rajanrairealty8979 10 ай бұрын
V8 6 can go 400k miles I've seen
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 10 ай бұрын
@@fredbrackelyActually this generation of Cayenne is rather reasonably reliable.
@JonathanAndrews-n8c
@JonathanAndrews-n8c 10 ай бұрын
You clearly have zero experience on this. I'm on my second Cayenne. A 2008 S and 2009 GTS both with the 4.8 V8. I've clocked almost 200,000 KM combined and literally have yet to have a failure...@@fredbrackely
@SpeedCafeGarage
@SpeedCafeGarage 10 ай бұрын
I work at Porsche, and i will happily say, the new Cayenne S is amazing. Bringing back the V8 for the S model was a big win for us. And on top of that, no lithium ion battery! Thank god.
@burdett95
@burdett95 10 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the 2024 isn’t available yet, this is a 2023 cayenne
@SpeedCafeGarage
@SpeedCafeGarage 10 ай бұрын
@burdett95 it is though 🤔. Our e3.2 Cayennes are all 2024 model year productions. We start counting after July (following New Financial Year).
@burdett95
@burdett95 10 ай бұрын
@@SpeedCafeGarage yeah its model year 24, but build year 23. Thus its not a 2024 cayenne.
@benbrown5913
@benbrown5913 10 ай бұрын
@@burdett95wut?
@imhaydenmelrose
@imhaydenmelrose 10 ай бұрын
@@burdett95 That's not how it works buddy.
@C-M-E
@C-M-E 10 ай бұрын
I've seen some well-sorted older Cayenne V8s outfitted for off-road duty. It was surprisingly capable for what was once a high end Mommy Mobile.
@mcdick
@mcdick 10 ай бұрын
Totally. And I think porsche dropped a ball a bit when they ditched that part in new generations. I mean apart from some billionares, nobody offroads Land Cruisers or Range Rovers as _new_ either. But big part of their value is that second owners do. And it's an option for the mad sort of first ones too. And I would claim that atleast in my neck of the woods, very few (if any), Land Cruisers aren't offroaded in their later life.
@joshuathompson8474
@joshuathompson8474 10 ай бұрын
Porsche originally thought that the people buying Cayennes would be car nerds like the people buying 911's. They changed them into soccer mom cars when they saw what the vast majority of buyers were using them for.
@imhaydenmelrose
@imhaydenmelrose 10 ай бұрын
@@joshuathompson8474 I believe they made the Cayenne to break into the broader market. Porsche was a dying company. Car nerds are great, but they aren't as profitable as general mass market. The Cayenne saved Porsche in a way. Of course, they always need to add something special for the car nerds too.
@jordanschooley7836
@jordanschooley7836 10 ай бұрын
These things were originally based on the VW Touareg which was a solid off-roader - when it ran.
@3n3ly7m9
@3n3ly7m9 10 ай бұрын
@@jordanschooley7836 What do you mean by that. The 3.2 VR6 and the 4.2 Timing belt V8 never had problems. It was always the TQ converter and clutch packs in the transmission. Oh and people not clearing the sunroof rain drains allowing everything important to get soaked in water. The people who bought them were to fucking stupid to take care of a vehicle.
@BeerBourbonBaits
@BeerBourbonBaits 10 ай бұрын
The head shot!! I felt the pain. Great intro and ad, as always! These cheap vs expensive episodes are what the car internet needs.
@dochaze1
@dochaze1 10 ай бұрын
Omg those hurt sooooooo much. I figured they’d hit the mask, but no, he got straight canoed. I legit believe he blacked out for a second
@Thecarbonhero
@Thecarbonhero 10 ай бұрын
The humour and quality you guys bring has gotten so good recently. I don’t recall the last time I laughed out loud at a KZbin video. Legitimately feels like I’m watching top gear Canadian edition.
@ryantrankovsky-im9ee
@ryantrankovsky-im9ee 10 ай бұрын
I remember having a 2007 Cayenne S, it had 350,000kms on it and I live in Edmonton, Alberta. Even though it was miled out, I bought it for $3k CAD and had the most fun with it. Such a head turner, SO much fun to drive, and sounded AMAZING.
@pianomail
@pianomail 10 ай бұрын
You can actually get aftermarket headkights for those Cayenne models that look like the new headlights for a little over $1000. They MASSIVELY improve how the car looks.
@tube.brasil
@tube.brasil 10 ай бұрын
The older is more beautiful
@mjflit
@mjflit 9 ай бұрын
There's actually quite a few parts out there for these. There's modern stereo replacements, LED taillight replacements... The only thing you can't really get on these is more power inexpensively.
@RuslanVideoFilms
@RuslanVideoFilms 10 ай бұрын
My Cayenne feels personally attacked. Those seats are an easy fix! I made a video about that!
@skyejah
@skyejah 10 ай бұрын
It even has ventilated seats 😂
@RuslanVideoFilms
@RuslanVideoFilms 10 ай бұрын
😂I put a new suspension on mine - re-did the headlights, last owner took great care of it so the color is fresh and not this muted blue - some people repaint theirs - you can get it looking and feeling close to new
@GU_WOP_O
@GU_WOP_O 10 ай бұрын
Worst part for me is that the dealer broke those clips when i took it in for service. I had the back seats down for my dog and they backed the front seats right up into them and wouldn't admit to it.
@luisescarraman589
@luisescarraman589 10 ай бұрын
I suscribe because you didn’t ask for 🫡
@asharda1272
@asharda1272 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2006 turbo S and the seat back just fell off 😅. Couldn’t find your video to fix it though.
@austini2067
@austini2067 10 ай бұрын
I love these guys. They’re good at joking around and they’re great at reviewing cars
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 10 ай бұрын
Better than Carwow at reviewing? Yes.
@certifiedbidry
@certifiedbidry 10 ай бұрын
Mad mats is brilliant, definitely the best showcase for sponsor 😂
@ghost21501
@ghost21501 10 ай бұрын
There's something about you two. I tend to get bored with most reviewers, unless its an extra special car. But you guys keep me hooked no matter what.
@valeryandre
@valeryandre 10 ай бұрын
Great video as usual. In defense of the more Mature Cayenne, I’d say the lift would have worked had you held the button the whole time. It was always designed to work that way from new.
@WesMarvelMusic
@WesMarvelMusic 10 ай бұрын
When I first got my used one I thought it was broken as well. Not sure why they designed it that way 😂
@jonnyyy7686
@jonnyyy7686 10 ай бұрын
8:33 as a German i was quite surprised hearing James speaking a German word. But you didn't say "Doppelkupplungsgetriebe", you actually said something like "Doppelgeflügelgetriebe", which actually means "Double poultry transmission". xD
@skirata3144
@skirata3144 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes modern Porsche use two chickens as their automatic transmission. As a positive they don’t require oil anymore and you get a nice breakfast egg every morning. The only downside is that you now have to remember to feed your transmission or you‘ll have to train two new chickens on how to be a transmission.
@butchdeadlift7551
@butchdeadlift7551 28 күн бұрын
​@@skirata3144😂
@sparkplugbarrens
@sparkplugbarrens 10 ай бұрын
I actually like the face-lift version of the old model from the front!
@felixm.34
@felixm.34 9 ай бұрын
Hey guys, I´m an engineer from Porsche. It´s interesting how cheap that 2009´cayenne is in Canada. With that Mileage that model costs about 16-18k € in Germany today. So enjoy the show, even with the particular damages. Best regards!
@bcab7955
@bcab7955 10 ай бұрын
I was never a fan of the fried egg/996 911 headlights but I honestly like how it looks here on the facelifted Gen1.
@Johnnygga
@Johnnygga 10 ай бұрын
If they were fixed by being polished up, they’d look even better than the new LED headlights.
@tiagocoelho7415
@tiagocoelho7415 10 ай бұрын
You really are the only channel where I can watch the hole 20 minute segment without getting bored or tired of to many cheap jokes. Great job as always
@N911GT2
@N911GT2 10 ай бұрын
I loved my V8 cayenne, glad they are back with the V8. Also... talk about product placement. That sponsor segment wat epic. :D
@lolickypeepee23xdd6
@lolickypeepee23xdd6 10 ай бұрын
This is easily my favorite series yall do ngl, always fun to see how much more advanced a car gets in 10-20 years or also instead seeing how much of that experience you can get at a fraction of the cost
@Ellocoyyopodcast
@Ellocoyyopodcast 10 ай бұрын
You guys need to review the 07 09 acura mdx. Acura tsx. Old acura legend and the acura vigor. Those were very interesting cars and extremely reliable.
@andrewlong3472
@andrewlong3472 Ай бұрын
These guys are hitting their stride! We’ve all been missing top gear for years! Thank you!!!!
@schwieb24
@schwieb24 10 ай бұрын
I really like these old vs new comparisons
@vipe650r
@vipe650r 10 ай бұрын
Ironically, now there is SO MUCH of an offroad community that's arisen around the Cayenne. It's actually been driving the prices up again.
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 10 ай бұрын
17:35 Of all things though, $150 for dash cam prep isn't horrible, if it's wired neatly and you're left with convenient USB ports for plugging in a dash cam (hopefully any brand), that's nice. I have hardwired dual dash cams in both our vehicles and if it was an option from factory to have the wires and predetermined location done, I'd be all over that.
@mjflit
@mjflit 9 ай бұрын
BMW offers that, the dash cameras are integrated into the infotainment too.
@stevestogsdill5791
@stevestogsdill5791 10 ай бұрын
Maybe it's just in the video but the old V8 sounds better, IMHO. Great video!
@LilSnooze
@LilSnooze 10 ай бұрын
Man I see these on Facebook marketplace all the time and they’re too tempting 😂 might have to pull the trigger for winter
@arlenspatz6739
@arlenspatz6739 10 ай бұрын
We are so spoiled that this is a KZbin video. The quality is off the charts and it’s uploaded to the same site that people upload their home cat videos. Also top notch product advertisement
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 10 ай бұрын
4:48 please give Mad Mats a barnacle boy-like side kick 😂
@StarkVandalez
@StarkVandalez 6 ай бұрын
I love that you guys do these comparison videos! its like you're inside my mind
@ShawnThePotato
@ShawnThePotato 10 ай бұрын
I’m 6’6” on the money so Harrison Data is very valuable. One of many many details I appreciate about your reviews
@kevindavis5966
@kevindavis5966 10 ай бұрын
Let's say it all together once again, kids: "There's no such thing as a cheap Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Bentley, Rolls, etc., etc.".
@wigs1098
@wigs1098 15 күн бұрын
Except for the Aston, yes there is. Currently own all of the other makes you mention. Doing my own work on the cars is the key here. Absolutely can be down if you know cars and can do the work required yourself.
@kevindavis5966
@kevindavis5966 14 күн бұрын
@@wigs1098 Ah, so for the remaining 99% of us - no, there isn't. Thanks for the clarification. Have you bought the coding software and hardware needed to work on makes like BMW for the last 15 years or so?
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe 10 ай бұрын
That was the ONLY time I’ve ever laughed at a sponsored bit. Well done. If more ads were like that, I’d watch them.
@FuryMaster
@FuryMaster 10 ай бұрын
i love the old vs. new series, I'm so glad yall are still going strong with it!
@robo1000
@robo1000 10 ай бұрын
Had my weathertech mats in my mustang for going on 5 years. Still after all that time, just a hose and a wipe and they look brand new again. Great video guys!
@mojojojo_BB
@mojojojo_BB 10 ай бұрын
That 2009 might cost 10K, but it definitely needs another 10-20K in repairs.
@hyper_channel
@hyper_channel 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, you are right but still, even if it is a pain in the ass and cost 50K to own it for 8 years you are still ahead by quite a lot
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 10 ай бұрын
The maintenance costs are overblown on these. Yeah, I could see the outrageous maintenance costs if the work was done entirely at a stealership--sorry--dealership. However, the case would be another completely different story if whatever maintenance jobs or repairs were taken care of at a quality independent mechanic shop. This particular example notwithstanding, the Cayennes of this generation are pretty reliable. The 4.5 V8 is a Porsche design with some weaknesses, but the V6 (VR6) is the ideal engine for longevity as it makes decent power, sounds great, and is a proven engine overall. Even the V8s aren't bad in the long term once the initial quirks have been solved.
@esthetics4512
@esthetics4512 10 ай бұрын
@@rahulmandala4930💯
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno 10 ай бұрын
Or more to stay alive
@notaspectator
@notaspectator 10 ай бұрын
You might be right, its a gamble. I looked it up for fun and its currently sold certified , again shocking for 2009
@a7xphenix
@a7xphenix 10 ай бұрын
I have a 09 S and I love it. 140k miles and she’s chugging along hoping to get a 2014 gts soon
@ak15912
@ak15912 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see you guys do old Chevy suburban vs new suburban
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 10 ай бұрын
2023 Surburban Vs the cheapest Suburban you can buy...sounds like a great idea. I just wonder what year they'll pick for the old one.
@happilyham6769
@happilyham6769 10 ай бұрын
I like the look of the older ones way more and a V8 is always better than a 4 banger or V6. It's about sound and feel more than actual performance imo. I don't care if the V6 turbo puts out more power, the V8 is bigger, sounds better, and just feels better.
@trevormacdougall9385
@trevormacdougall9385 10 ай бұрын
Had a 2009 Cayenne S for the past four years. That is the sound of 13 MPG 😅😅
@pbufh
@pbufh 10 ай бұрын
How much did u pay on maintance
@trevormacdougall9385
@trevormacdougall9385 10 ай бұрын
@@pbufh It began to add up things needed repair. Fuel pump was probably the most expensive repair.
@pbufh
@pbufh 10 ай бұрын
@@trevormacdougall9385 ok just curious as I live in Canada and have seen some go for 10-12k but I always figured the maintance would be insane expensive on them since you're still paying to mainte a luxury vehicle.
@trevormacdougall9385
@trevormacdougall9385 10 ай бұрын
@@pbufh I also live in Canada. It’s not crazy expensive if you have a good indie shop. Oil changes etc are fine. It’s just they are getting on in age and eventually things need replacing. Genuine Porsche parts aren’t cheap. But overall they are solid trucks.
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 10 ай бұрын
Extremely timely guys. I have been looking at Cayennes recently. 957 or 958.1 GTSs.
@cody41895
@cody41895 10 ай бұрын
I definitely wouldn’t mind a track test in these old vs new videos.
@gleisxheli2282
@gleisxheli2282 10 ай бұрын
You two are the best car journalists. Keep bringing these types of videos. Very good work guys!
@FG-ul7dz
@FG-ul7dz 10 ай бұрын
They are literally identical
@dstrong11
@dstrong11 Ай бұрын
My Sister had an 06 Titanium Edition and she put 155k miles on hers from 70k to start. It needed a battery, and few oil changes and had to replace the drive shaft twice. And needed new tires/rims. Outside that it was a great car! Drove it all the way to NYC no problems before got rid of it for a 12 Range Rover Sport.😊
@flacjacket
@flacjacket 10 ай бұрын
I love my '15 Cayenne SEH, just about to hit 100k miles and my total repair expense (not counting regular maintenance/ consumables) is $0.13 for a resistor for a failed pedestrian alert speaker. Also the flex discs on the driveshaft were replaced as part of a TSB under previous ownership. I am of the opinion that Cayennes are the most complete car on the market (did you know they tow 7,700 lbs, more than any other SUV or small truck, a tacoma is only good for 6,800 for context). Also a correction to a misconception, the cayennes have actually become even more capable offroaders with each generation, its just that with the 958 gen they switched from a manual two speed transfer case to an automatic torque vectoring one. Find me another car capable of swallowing the whole family plus luggage for a two week vacation that has the NVH of an S class, handles like a sports sedan, has real steering feel, does 60 in under 5, is as reliable as a Toyota, can tow a large boat, and has the fit and finish of a Porsche. Also my SEH is returning ~31-32 mpg lifetime average. The V8 in the new S is the ea825 btw, flash tune gives you 725 hp, add an intake and intercoolers and its good for 830, and with tte1020 hybrid turbos it can make 930 hp pump gas without other mods, total cost of about $9k installed including intercoolers intake and tune.
@ted6462
@ted6462 10 ай бұрын
Tuning an already amazing S is such a stupid idea. It already has more power than you can use on the road. How small does your dong have to be to need that?
@cs1375
@cs1375 10 ай бұрын
​@@ted6462I don't think has anything to do with small dongs. 60% of premium electric cars will still blow it out of the water.
@ted6462
@ted6462 10 ай бұрын
@@cs1375 Except they don't. They all handle like trash compared to the Cayenne.
@cs1375
@cs1375 10 ай бұрын
@@ted6462 I'm not talking handling and your last comment wasn't either. We were both talking speed.
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 10 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT the Mad Mats was probably the funniest skit you guys have to date. WELL DONE 🤣🤣
@ahmedtan2003
@ahmedtan2003 10 ай бұрын
Still, I would get the X5 M. It's cheaper and looks much better internally, and the techs way better in 2024 model. Amazing video as usual ❤
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 10 ай бұрын
No doubt the X5M is a beast at its price point, but this is the standard Cayenne S vs the full fledged X5M, so they’re different beasts from one another
@hi_tech_reptiles
@hi_tech_reptiles 10 ай бұрын
One of the only things less reliable than (some) Porsches lol
@nik18p
@nik18p 10 ай бұрын
Cayenne handling is far better than X5M, in both comfort and sport settings.
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 10 ай бұрын
The X5M competes with the Cayenne Turbo. The S is a bit below the X5 M50i
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 10 ай бұрын
​@@hi_tech_reptilesgood job showing your ignorance. Porsche and BMW have both been right near the top (along w Lexus) for luxury reliability ratings for at least the last 5 years Yeah the older cars are less reliable.
@imBugra
@imBugra 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 2020 Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid last week. Previously, I had been using 2019 Mercedes-Benz S500L AMG (V222) for two years and many good cars in the past. Porsche is just something else, I'm feeling the best days of my life every day nowadays, the sound, drive, interior, everything is perfectly balanced. A couple of days ago, they loaned me a 992 Carrera GTS for two days to get the sports exhaust fitted in my Cayenne, I wouldn't have the 911 in ugly British roads by any means. It's meant for tracking, but I do only long distances. The guy who drove the Cayenne to pick up the GTS told me that he thinks likewise. Cayenne is a perfect package for daily driving.
@ronmckee9019
@ronmckee9019 7 ай бұрын
Getting the older one so cheap does leave plenty of room to make a handful of repairs & some updates, changes or upgrades. So even if you find a nice clean one for $10-15k & dump another $5-10k you're in for $15-25k & then you likely have a really nice sorted Porsche. As all who've owned or driven any Porsche knows that any well sorted Porsche is an amazing piece of machinery & they are just on a whole other level than most others. Every Porsche makes you a fan over & over again.
@jacobrev6567
@jacobrev6567 10 ай бұрын
The intro is never change at all 😂👍
@lucabeshkov1137
@lucabeshkov1137 10 ай бұрын
Man... I was drinking water and straight up spit it at my girlfriends face when he got hit in the head ... Throttle House is the best KZbin car Channel ever
@doug6191
@doug6191 10 ай бұрын
I can't afford a new one, so I can't afford a used one.
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 10 ай бұрын
A 958 Cayenne is definitely a better buy than a 955 or 957.
@christopherignacio7412
@christopherignacio7412 10 ай бұрын
Literally putting on facial moisturizer when James said his bit. WHY ARE YOU WATCHING ME
@godowrk3360
@godowrk3360 10 ай бұрын
The Mad Mats bits are now the hardest I’ve laughed in these videos, right next to James smacking his head twice on the i8.
@morjeme8948
@morjeme8948 10 ай бұрын
I just wondering when in 2044 someone compare this old 2024 Cayenne with the new one and like "LOL THEY HAD THAT ANCIEND USB TYPE C AND EMI ENDUCTION WIRELESS CHARGING LOL THATS DINOSAUR TECHNOLOGY!!11"
@GrahamSmith1616
@GrahamSmith1616 10 ай бұрын
I don’t care about new Porsche Cayennes, and I have no interest in old ones. In fact I’m not that fussed about most cars, especially supercars. I’m here - with alarming regularity - for the great quality filming, excellent music choices, razor sharp editing and delightful chemistry. But mostly because it’s so funny so often. It could be Lawnmower House for all I care, I’d still tune in, love it, and then forget to give it a like. This is the future version of television that we ended up not getting. Thank you.
@aegontargaryen573
@aegontargaryen573 10 ай бұрын
You guys are my favourite gay car reviewers
@doug6191
@doug6191 10 ай бұрын
You're the best gay commenter!
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 10 ай бұрын
@@doug6191 no, you are! Also, I'm at your mom's house.
@aegontargaryen573
@aegontargaryen573 10 ай бұрын
@@doug6191 omg yassss thx doll slaaaay kweeen
@gadgetdealz
@gadgetdealz 10 ай бұрын
I just picked up an 08 GTS for 8500. And it is pretty dang mint, Air suspension, dynamic suspension, tiptronic, pano roof, excellent maintenance
@LEMONSTERPLAYSPUBG
@LEMONSTERPLAYSPUBG 9 ай бұрын
How are you liking it so far? I’m gonna check out a 09 GTS with 80k miles.
@gadgetdealz
@gadgetdealz 9 ай бұрын
Seems to have all the normal Porsche issues. Wonder how they keep their value with all the dissolving plastic, and expensive maintenance. Little things fall apart for no reason except cheap materials in manufacturing. Drives very well for an AWD SUV. But MercedesML550 AMG same year is better as far as quiet, smooth, less costly, better fuel mileage euro SUV.
@5harkbyte460
@5harkbyte460 Ай бұрын
@@gadgetdealz Would you buy it again knowing what you know now? I am looking at at 09 GTS
@gadgetdealz
@gadgetdealz Ай бұрын
I looked at probably 10 of them before I bought this one. There's a huge difference in the maintenance history and upkeep of the vehicles. The nine other ones I wouldn't have bought it all. Interiors all clapped out. Lack of maintenance will cost you more to get the car into good condition then just buying a good one. Unless you want to buy one and try to restore it yourself? Hail damage unfortunately messed up the exterior so I gave the car to my daughter and it's her daily driver.
@5harkbyte460
@5harkbyte460 Ай бұрын
@@gadgetdealz Good contexts. Thank you. The one I am looking at has 30k miles and is a 2-owner. Clean title and all maintenance appears to have been done by a Porsche dealer. I am considering it as a family hauler for a baby to be. Would not be our only vehicle.
@ivaylomy
@ivaylomy 10 ай бұрын
'I don't trust you from the back now' and then the headshot. Had me in tears from laughing 😂
@TwistedSXS
@TwistedSXS 10 ай бұрын
OMG the WeatherTech test was the best thing I've seen all week. Absolutely died laughing, and I needed a set for my new truck so went onto there website and got a set, and made sure I selected Throttle House as where I heard about them. Keep it up guys!
@huskiek1693
@huskiek1693 10 ай бұрын
There’s not a happier sponsor on the planet than weather tech right now hahaha
@ab3040
@ab3040 10 ай бұрын
The only place sponsors get their money's worth😂
@joelkupstas7907
@joelkupstas7907 10 ай бұрын
I loved the subtle Carmudgeon Show and Smoking Tire Podcast plugs in the new Cayenne interior review section of the video!! Love, Love, LOVE the Old versus New videos! They really are always a little unpredictable, but predictably hilarious!! Please keep up the amazing work Throttle House team!!!
@Original_Todd
@Original_Todd 2 ай бұрын
Bought my 2006 turbo s for $1500, wasn’t running, all it needed was a fuel pump. The interior was still in great condition. It’s crazy how cheap you can find some Porshe models nowadays. I’ve probably put another $2000 in it to get it running like a champ. Best investment in my opinion
@scott8934
@scott8934 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I would like this series just the same if they went for like…. A 3 years old 50k mile example too not just THE CHEAPEST ONE AVAILABLE. Would be interested to see that initial depreciation trade off as well. Or maybe a last gen comparison.
@AdventuresofGraywolf
@AdventuresofGraywolf 10 ай бұрын
Some of us actually take our 955/958 cayennes off road. It would be very interesting to see both of these on sports car racing and off road testing (with the same tires)
@LifeatSpeed
@LifeatSpeed 10 ай бұрын
You guys never fail to deliver! Absolutely love the old/new comparison videos you do, and while I could care less about the Cayenne in general, I absolutely loved the video! And the Mad Mat skit, was beyond the icing on the cake! Keep it up!
@Chester-b8z
@Chester-b8z 9 ай бұрын
A man of ability and the desire to accomplish something can do anything.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 10 ай бұрын
The nice thing about the older one is you get cylinder wall scoring at no extra cost! 😅
@mattabell3657
@mattabell3657 10 ай бұрын
The new vs old series is great. I purchased a 2007 911 Carrera 4 last month for under 40k US and it is a riot. My first Porsche and was cheaper than my Focus RS. There’s lots of value in a nicely maintained older car.
@ObieStill27
@ObieStill27 10 ай бұрын
8:32 Doppelgeflügelgetriebe xD lmao it shifts gear in 3 millichickens. awesome video guys.
@TheDeadSnipe
@TheDeadSnipe 10 ай бұрын
I’ve said it before but these guys are the best car show since top gear I haven’t seen anyone else even come close
@Terry-ih3qr
@Terry-ih3qr 10 ай бұрын
Hits home. Just bought a 2006 Cayenne S Titanium for $6k USD. Put in 4k to replace a leaking valve cover gasket, new plugs, coils, all fluids changed, etc. Car has 148k miles. Drove it from PA to FL (1000 miles) to be a temporary car at the 2nd house. Its optioned nicely including air suspension. Body is mostly good except for a few spots but overall the car is a 6/7 out of 10. On the bright side, it hasn't burned a drop of oil and it runs well. Its typical German w/ a few electrical glitches - radio and cruse deceides when and IF they want to work. Sometimes yes....sometimes no. Yeah, seat backs fell off. Seems to be a VERY common issue. A bit of epoxy on the brackets, problem solved. Also have a 2012 Range Rover w/ 100k miles I bought 4 years ago with only 55k on it. God, I MUST be glutten for punishment in my car choices. Never learn - this coming from someone who had 2 93 Rx-7s and later decided to buy an Rx-8 for a "family car".........never learn :)
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 10 ай бұрын
Awesome work as always! I will say that regarding the clinical feel of the Cayennes and how they’ve remained to that, you guys need to test a 957/958 generation GTS, these have so much character and excitement in them! They go like stink and handle beautifully!
@samuellang9761
@samuellang9761 10 ай бұрын
you guys are really carrying the top gear torch, love the banter and content
@AliAlhussaini
@AliAlhussaini 10 ай бұрын
Should’ve used the overtake shot for the “and I’m James” part
@89emeza
@89emeza 7 ай бұрын
That spot that replaced the dynamic chassis control on the old cayenne is the perfect size for AirPods… It’s the best!! Love my old Cayenne! 255k km and going strong!
@titaniummechanism3214
@titaniummechanism3214 24 күн бұрын
Manual first gen Cayenne GTS. That's where its at for me! A manual Cayenne is just too awesome to say no to, also it looks really good in red.
@brooks3racing1
@brooks3racing1 10 ай бұрын
Best weather tech commercial ever. “Mad Mats” 😂😂😂
@SonicHedgehog38
@SonicHedgehog38 10 ай бұрын
The paintball scene is my favorite part of this video!!!🤣
@spadds
@spadds 3 ай бұрын
The abuse and neglect of the 2009 model, is not a Porsche issue. All vehicles need maintenance and upkeep to ensure they remain fully functional. I know where I would be putting my money, and that would be $15k, on a nicer, cared for example of the older model. Incidentally, this 15k would equate to just 50% of the depreciation you'd see in the first 36 months of ownership of the new vehicle. Talk about throwing money away. Rich people spend money smartly, that's why they are rich. Thanks for posting, really enjoyed this.
@paulsinel515
@paulsinel515 10 ай бұрын
Can’t argue…..you guys are priceless: love the humour, the analysis, the tracking, old / new, etc. Suggestion: how about comparing brand similar EV to ICE - ie Volvo to Volvo, Ford - Mustang to Mustang, F150 to Lightning Jaguar to Jaguar,etc, etc. Thanks for keeping me hooked.
@RedFoxwithTubeSocks-hi7jj
@RedFoxwithTubeSocks-hi7jj 10 ай бұрын
Video game companies: "If you want to use this cool weapon, it's gonna be $9.99 to purchase it. But, you need to have this $4.99 armor to wield it. And it's gonna be another $3.99 to level up your character, in order to wear the armor." Car manufacturers: "Hold my microtransaction."
@thethresh
@thethresh 10 ай бұрын
I actually burst out laughing when the seatback fell off! Always great content but these cheap v expensive are simply THE BEST!
@1MountainLife
@1MountainLife 4 ай бұрын
I prefer the 2009 over 2024. Something about the ruggedness I love. I'd tow with it, camp with it and eat take out in it. The 2024 wouldn't even want to sneeze in it because its so nice.
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