Throwback: Symbian OS Evolution (S60, Belle, Meego)

[@Banom7a]

Nokia should've gone with MeeGo instead of Windows Phone

[@adityakumawat8112]

True af

[@aaadj2744]

But still Android OS are the big deal

[@IllidariHunter]

@@aaadj2744 Not at the time. I won't say they would be the second largest player in the market, but it would be viable nevertheless

[@MK040]

@@IllidariHunter they are the biggest player in the market.

[@IllidariHunter]

@@MK040 I'm talking about the past, not now.

[@joshinvaz]

Symbian...please come back

[@magargaming584]

Love symbian

[@diliepsinhvaghela7250]

Bring back symbian..

[@aashir.shaikh]

It was ahead of it's time.

[@sashanksekhar8]

😭😭

[@terrawolf]

i wish symbian came back,but the symbian scene is quite alive right now!

[@gravitycat4777]

2:35 Actually, you are wrong. Symbian multitasking was lightyears ahead of any other competing SO at the time.

[@innocentnwajohn5255]

This is true. I know it has to do with the market but the sybian OS would distroy andriod if it was still in existence now...

[@mistersaur]

I played 500+ Java Games on my Nokia 6303 classic but only 10+ Android games... I miss those good old days...

[@renko8065]

most java games were trash

[@AndroEmu_Clips]

@@renko8065 shut up ... You can't Judge them by the time they were available ... Even though graphically they may not be that attractive bt they were heavy fun compared to most games in android and ios

[@renko8065]

@@AndroEmu_Clips when did i say anything about graphics? can't you read? I said most of them were trash but not all, there are some good ones liks bounce and snake

[@canban]

same here :(

[@ruslankazimov622]

@Maqbool Darash Those java games almost had no art, shitty 8bit music and nothing of plot. Today you can download any pixel graphics design tool, watch tutorials and make better graphics. They had no free games and all was paid, like 4.99$. The games like Assasins Creed, Prince of Persia, India Jones, Pirates of Carribean and 100s of other games were all the same shit with differnt skinned enemies and slightly different levels. Worse than Fifa. Today play store is full of protype looking android games but there is also This is War of Mine, Little Nightmares, Don't Starve and ports like Portal, Half life, GTA. Take off your Nostalgia glasses.

[@gnntech]

Late to the party here but a good look back. There are a few misrepresentations though. First, the initial phone you show is running Symbian 60 5th Edition which was basically a touch layer grafted on top of the non-touch Symbian 60 Series 3 OS. It was a stop-gap measure to hold people over until the touch-enabled OS was ready. The first phones running the true touch-enabled Symbian^3 OS were the N8 and E7. The actual lineage was Symbian Series 60v3 (non touch) -> Series 60 5th Edition -> Symbian^3 -> Symbian Anna -> Nokia Belle. In fact, Belle was a huge improvement and modernization over Anna which was a small incremental update of Symbian^3.Second, Meego is not related to Symbian in any way shape or form. Symbian's roots came from the Psion EPOC OS (which was more or less DOS-based). Meego is the successor to Maemo 5 (using in the Nokia N900) which is built on the Debian Linux platform. The only reason why the iconography was similar was they were being developed at the same time and Nokia was initially positioning Meego to replace Symbian but that idea was dropped when they moved to Windows Phone.Meego was WAY ahead of its time and would've faired very well if it had quality app support.

[@jmusic2024]

oh thanks now after 13 years I finally know why the symbian on the first phone he shows - it was just a touch layer! wow, I had it and nothing was working properly except calling and sms. Wifi was disconnecting or not connecting, they had there those email app services which I could never had them worked with any email, keyboard was horrible, touch screen insensitive...

[@mistrotech8894]

If they could add more apps to the ovi store, and combine the fluency from meego and the elegance and android like experience, they would have done very well....

[@AgnishChakrabortyarka]

I remember nokia 500 which i owned with belle OS(upgraded from s60 to Anna then to Belle). It had features which i still miss today. You could play a song in your phone while on call and let the other person listen to it.

[@ChrisTian-sd5yq]

can I play s60 games on Belle?

[@user-wp6od8dw2f]

@@ChrisTian-sd5yq belle is s60!!!

[@ChrisTian-sd5yq]

@@user-wp6od8dw2f so it can play diamond rush, bounce tales and explode arena?

[@user-wp6od8dw2f]

@@ChrisTian-sd5yq if you could run in a nokia s60 5th edition you could run on symbian ^3, anna and belle!

[@user-wp6od8dw2f]

@@ChrisTian-sd5yq but if i remember, bounce tales is a java application for nokia s40

[@alonebuthappy33]

Amazing video. Keep up the good work 👍

[@AaronKLok]

Now imagine if Nokia had invested in keeping Symbian or Meego alive till now... Would be an amazing OS, Symbian Belle was years ahead of Android, and practilly didn't had lag in the 700(?) series, which had a very weak hardware, but was better than android 4.4

[@AaronKLok]

The Symbian Anna(?) shown in the video, was not the last or latest smartphone released by Nokia before switching for Meego/Windowsphone. The last one didn't had lag practically, but Ellop wanted the marketing focused on Windowsphone, and we saw where things had gone...

[@CC0Z]

Yup Symbian is always ahead of android back then. The only drawback is the lack of developers support, if only Nokia could convincing the devs to make apps for Symbian. Also Meego seems really promising and why ahead of its time, too bad Nokia gave up to early and went to Windows mobile bait.

[@Sivabharani]

@@AaronKLok You mean Nokia 808 lagged compared to Android phone out there by that time :-)

[@swetabhsingh7689]

Man x7 was one of the best looking phones from the front to ever hit the market

[@swatxian]

Used Symbian once E7, love it !!! Never live with MeeGo and want one badly now 😫 Lol I just notice Nokia really a fan of Annabelle doll back then, they name their Symbian Anna & Symbian Belle 😅 Nice video BTW 👍🏻

[@wordart_guian]

it was in alphabetical order, the codename of belle FP1 and FP2 from 2012 were Symbian Carla and Symbian Donna later they did the same with Lumia updates (WP Amber, Black, Cyan, Denim). kind of like android desserts

[@xm2895]

Hahahah

[@liquidmetaldream]

N9 is so special 💗

[@Praylv]

"Here we have an oversized clock" Who are you to judge? :D

[@JustinMcVicar]

The Ovi store! I remember there even being commercials for it back in then. Was not the best experience. Also, I remember the guitar pick stylus that came with. Also, I notices that you bought the Lumia from Australia, because it's locked to the Optus network.

[@wessamhamadneh9877]

my 3 all time favorite Nokias… Nokia X7, Nokia N9 , Lumia 925

[@WaytleElmatador]

Meego os was realy good!!

[@abymohanan2043]

Thank you so much for this video 👍🏻👌🏻✌🏻

[@bernielomax4702]

The Nokia N9 was pretty great. It's unfortunate they threw their lot in with Windows (even though those were great too, and quite underappreciated). I still don't know why Nokia spent the time and resources into meego, released it and immediately announced it was obsolete, unsupported, and wouldn't be continued as they moved to windows.

[@061Hitachi]

Symbian OS 7.0s s60 V2 and Symbian OS 7.0. S80...good times...still the best mobile OS for me. I liked Belle too. Multitasking was not "primitive" it was very similar to PC even in 2003, much better than android's. Shame system got killed.

[@aaadj2744]

Android beat them

[@ChrisTian-sd5yq]

can you play s60 games on Belle?

[@061Hitachi]

@@ChrisTian-sd5yq I think you can play s60 v5 games but definitely not s60 v3 and earlier.

[@ChrisTian-sd5yq]

@@061Hitachi the games I want to play are the games included with nokia x2 00 and explode arena, think those will be playable?

[@061Hitachi]

@@ChrisTian-sd5yq Unfortunately the x2 00 is not a smartphone. It is S40 OS not Symbian. Symbian always supported java applets but I can't confirm 100%. You will have to try it yourself. My E7-00 is dead so i can't try on your behalf.

[@shawonahmed5775]

Stephen Elop, the then Nokia CEO singlehandedly destroyed Nokia. He was a former Microsoft employee, he ditched Symbian and Meego. Then opted for Windows phone OS. Then, the only option remained, that is, Microsoft bought Nokia for a cheap price.

[@ajaayshharrma03]

Symbian still the legendary OS of all time.

[@SlipperrClutch]

Thank u so much for this video ❤️

[@CC0Z]

Meego was so ahead of its time, such a missed opportunity by Nokia for abandoned this OS

[@adamantite5066]

The best operating systems for mobile ever, such as combining Android and iOS. But why does Nokia give low specs for their phones??

[@matthewkuhl79]

The goal was low battery consumption

[@wordart_guian]

because who cares about specs? (especially since these were nice in 2010) When you can get tough phones with good battery

[@HouseOfFunQM]

I'm 4 years too late, but Symbian is not related to Linux. It's a closed-source microkernel that came from EPOC and Psion in the 90's. Also yeah Nokia really should have gone with MeeGo instead of selling to Microsoft, I think in future students will case study this whole saga as the biggest mistake in consumer electronics ever.

[@adrian_veidt]

I used s60v3 the most back then on my E63 and n73. It's a fun os where I installed emulators and hacks. S60v5 looked promising. But I'm on the fence with touchscreen interface back then. My buddy back in college had nokia n8 and it looked cool. I heard sony ericson had units that run with symbian too. The meego on the other hand looked promising and ahead of it's time. It's sleek and attractive.

[@Christopher_Mang]

Nokia C5-03 was my first ever phone with lots of memories images and videos 💗💗💗

[@loudless261]

What if SymbianOS was developed again? Can it be more than iOS? I hope SymbianOS is developed once more(sorry my english languange so bad)

[@OmMurugansathish]

I love symbian os and old nokia phones. Love from India

[@f1videos760]

I still usw my Nokia 701- cool thing is you can still download apps from the APP store (Name Applist)

[@PrabhatKumar-cu7mz]

Nokia should stay on meego instead of Windows os

[@SaulGRCanalYT]

S60 Symbian phones: Great OS, not so great on touchscreen phones Anna and Belle Symbian phones: Also great, but not so easy to use MeeGo: Gesture based, better than old Symbian If there's something wrong with this comment, answer me (spam comments are not allowed)

[@SaulGRCanalYT]

I HATE SPAM COMMENT BOTS

[@smash9032]

Symbian was the best i ever used ! 3MB game looked sooo sooo good

[@Maulai]

Don't you even realize that n9 don't run symbian?it's meego....and most of gestures are gone to iPhone X,you can also call iPhone X as the copy of n9...

[@shashank390]

Hasim Qureshi yes bro

[@Maulai]

Thanks bro...

[@superqaxclub]

watch the video he explained why he includes n9

[@FuneFox]

N9 looks better

[@mrskye08]

I wonder what could have happened if nokia just continued with meego instead of windows phone

[@sampletext69420]

fact: iOS is based on UNIX kernel

[@b.l.0427]

Lol how the hack this is 5 year's ago i still remember watching it when I was eating

[@sanketgupta5271]

I feel sad whenever i see what height Nokia had achieved earlier

[@rizwanramzan9174]

The downfall of nokia starts with windows phone if nokia continue developing with meego. We were seeing a competition between nokia vs Android vs ios.

[@evieme]

Symbian os... My very first os...

[@RichardCyberPunk]

I still use my Nokia N97 with a custom firmware.

[@TheJunky228]

I'm using a Nokia E7 right now :P I'm surprised I still have cell service since it doesn't do 4G and I thought T-Mobile was shutting down the 3G networks... might not have long with this, but I intend to continue using it for a while... it's only been 4 days so far as my main phone.

[@franciskapsowe9183]

You fought a good fight. RIP S60V3

[@Yassir-qb8vv]

Dear Sir, is there any social media calling Apps For S60v5 ?

[@phamong6383]

Why does Nokia Mobile not use meagoo operating system to replace Windows phone?

[@pilejao11]

i do not know why they decided to remove the standby mode in meego...

[@Marcostacos78Loquendo]

Debería volver Symbian, con el Nokia N8 en 2010 era muy genial tenerlo

[@gamespace0125]

Pretty good

[@yomrano]

At least on Symbian, you could set the alarm and turn off your phone, it will still wake you up. Android still doesn't implement this feature

[@akash_gupta_2090]

Woo mego open app location is great

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

I wanted to tryout all different os

[@jellyblue1923]

Indonesia never know What meego os is it.

[@brendanwang8565]

I miss MeeGo OS which makes it unique compared to Android OS.

[@kevinchristiancastillo2017]

i have nokia asha 501 and its a very nice phone..then nokia lumia 730...and now I have nokia G50 5G...all are very nice phones

[@obinnaelisius1441]

Guys Can Anyone Explain To Me Why Symbian Devices Have A Better Ram Management Than Android And Ios. Like, It Is The Best Os That Ever Multitask Apps . Android And Ios Don'T Even Stand A Chance Against It. Imagine If Symbian Was Further Developed And It Has Snapdragon 865 With Only 1Gb Of Ram .It Will Be A Beast. The Best Part Is When The Ram Is Full,It Tells You But In Android Even When With A Lot Of Free Ram It Still Refresh Almost All Apps And Its Annoying.Symbian Can Keep 20 Apps Running In The Background For Days Without Refresh .Sometimes You Forget That You Have Some Apps For One Week Running In The Background Without Knowing,You Will Only Know When You Click It Then It Resume From The Extact The Same Spot You Left It Open a Week Ago. It Is The True Multitasking King Mobile Os Which Ever Existed.

[@fabricioaf89]

Symbian was based on EPOC32, not Linux.

[@user-wp6od8dw2f]

nokia c6 is symbian 5th edition, not symbian^3 symbian ^3 (with anna and belle updates) is the os of the next generations of smartphones (n8, c6-01, c7, e7 ....) and is still s60. x7 is symbian anna, an update of symbian ^3 (and still s60). s60 is the UI of symbian smartphones, not the version

[@youknowme2322]

Nokia C6 is it running upgraded version of S60 9.4

[@waltonks8172]

Correction - iOS is based on Darwin which is Unix not Linux

[@JamAdventures05]

that's not even symbian belle..symbian belle on my 808 looks like android

[@spacedusty]

True, both are symbian anna

[@erriezzanslounge1380]

Aji Diansyah s60v5th and symbian ^3

[@wordart_guian]

@@spacedusty the C6 has S60v5, the X7 has anna

[@mesicek7]

Wish you'd talk more about apps. I was crazy back then for symbian phones had a 3650, 6600, N70 and the N80 and the stuff you could do with it cause of the symbian os was amazing. You could install mp3 players (the phones back then didn''t support mp3's), movie players (Smart Movie player), the IR Remote control for tv's,vcr's,.. The symbian games were also amazing - there was one car game similar to micro machines that had multiplayer support via bluetooth, you could also install all sorts of emulator. I had the nes one. There was a large community on the ipmart forum dedicated to symbian apps, games and all sorts of phone stuff - lots of stuff was cracked web.archive.org/web/20061023082557/www.ipmart-forum.com/

[@superqaxclub]

S^3 devices have the best support from Nokia when it can be upgraded to Anna and Belle

[@wordart_guian]

WP8 devices also had decent support (4 upgrades even on my 520)

[@erickdonald5449]

i love Symbian

[@lombridious]

Nostalgia

[@kennedaykayuni1650]

Nokia Asha had always on display,501,nokia N8 ,nokia E7

[@ApurvJyotirmay]

Honestly, I loved Symbian's multi-tasking compared to Android's. Symbian's gives more control to users

[@arghabasu7596]

Imagine, Nokia's Os was far ahead then android, all the features we use today few were already there. They should have not choose windows

[@nakuldas7867]

Not Symbian Evolution Say Nokia Evolution Meego is Not Of Symbian This is Servant of Linux

[@quchi7232]

Oh god, look how sexy the Nokia x7 is, I remember owning Nokia x7, C7 and N8 back in 2013.

[@GD-hm6lm]

I want nokia n9 box pack.. From where can I buy???

[@argentinatango2206]

Samsung one ui looks like nokia symbian meego

[@bendthatdickcuminbitch7853]

i believe samsung is heavily inspired by symbian. I use their galaxy s phones for years now and Its a pretty similar experience to the "old" Nokia days for me

[@marcoantoniodasilvabatista7203]

yes

[@1968atomic]

Meego is not an Symbian family OS. Meego is mix of Moblin linux made by Intel + Maemo linux made by Nokia, Symbian OS is a descendant of Psion's EPOC

[@furkanx42]

İ am using nokia asha 309 s40 java os.

[@AndroEmu_Clips]

Lol it's funny how nokia introduced full screen gestures long ago

[@daniansh]

I always had a thought that the moving of Nokia from using Symbian to Android was a WRONG MOVE, it's a practically late to come down to the market of android phone because SAMSUNG has become the "Nokia" at that market. Nokia trying to compete with their legendary name as a weapon while giving standart hardware spec are pityfull when there are other brand that trying to compete SAMSUNG with high hardware spec with a low price product seems to work that out. So in my Opinion if Nokia can't do the same move at the market they should invest to develop Symbian to make it comparable with Android or iOS, because Symbian doesn't need a high hardware to run so it could maybe cost less to build the phone. the latest Nokia Symbian are Nokia X7 which run with 680 Mhz cpu and 256 mb ram. that's even lower than iOS hardware spec.

[@Videos_Marco_Videos]

good video

[@shahminhajuddin]

n9

[@GalaxyGamer-qn1mv]

Sadly he didn't take a Belle phone

[@TheHollaata]

primitive multitasking? S60 / SYMBIAN (aside from what blackberry used) was & STILL is the only OS that actually has REAL multitasking ! Android (except from dual-windows, which was available from Android N (7.0) upwards) & iOS employ App switching* !S60 could even multitask app processes, something these current "smart" 🙄 phone OSes Android & iOS for the most part, CANT do.... unfortunately.

[@yuudesu]

Nokia just need more Dev's and to expand the symbian environment in the world ... cause' at that time symbian was more snappy, optimised than android. I just wished if they didn't gave up this early.....

[@barunkd3136]

Help me to know about symbian Nokia evolution

[@godwincantarona6020]

Nokia should've prioritized improving their SymbianOS, it had REAL Potential and it was Ahead of it's Time.

[@brianjones3191]

iOS is not based on Linux. It is based on BSD, a Unix OS.

[@mahmoudahmed-jc8ib]

I love symbian and windows phone 😢

Symbian was the best os ever.

[@mkf28]

JUST WANT TO ASK A STUPID QUESTION. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU INSTALL SYMBIAN OS ON NEWER PHONE? 2023 2024

[@greenbean5186]

8:50 they weren't even that dumb they can install java programs a fact I feel like most people ignored.

[@msibanker]

Quick question: I have a Sony Ercisson satio u1i that ran on Symbian OS, can I install a different OS like Asha or MeeGo or any other OS ....Thanks

[@shahminhajuddin]

reminiscing 808 pv

[@dice1331]

Nokia should have gone with Android earlier. They would have been been equal with samsung or even ahead in terms of market share. But their executives were too stubborn to let go of their own made OS

[@eamonnnorrie8490]

iOS is not based on Linux. It’s based on MacOS which is based on Unix

[@isokessu]

Symbian s60 multitasking was far from primitive.. it was real multitasking

[@jackkraken3888]

One think I really didn't like with Nokia is how they reskinned their feature phones to look like symbian phones (cough *asha line*cough) and they were secretly running the Serious 40 OS instead. I know this because I bought one but I knew what they were doing and I didn't care but others were really confused and didn't really understand why it couldn't run modern apps and that included whatsapp for some users.

[@mehmetgurdal]

6:28 that's not an always on display my ignorant friend it's called Nokia Sleeping Screen.

[@wordart_guian]

*glance

[@Dr.ladirajkumar143]

Meego best user experience

[@storytalks5462]

Great

[@kalyboi5750]

Choosing windows is the beginning of nokia downfall

[@elijahhmarshall]

I always thought IOS was based on BSD not Linux?

[@sunsetthecat8285]

I had an unbelievable indestructible Xpress music 5800 cp before it was late 20's when I had it, it got drop around 15ft it got dead pixel then it had been dropped in the water for like good 5 seconds, dropped from my pocket while in a running vehicle still functional then for the last time it got dropped again in water for the same amount of time, bro! The deadpixel got fixed! Like it vanished after that however the speaker got bad but 100% functional and for some reason I misplaced it...that old relic got lost

[@WallDiesel]

Почему на X7 стоит Anna, а не Belle?

[@nikkehtine]

Pretty sure Nokia would have been super successful if only they sticked with MeeGo instead of moving to Windows Phone