Thrown Across the Arena! Black Dragon vs. Riptide! | Battlebots | Discovery

[@bluecat2991]

Despite being a spinner Riptide is like the third best flipper in the sport. XD

[@troncoop5676]

@@Staurcomb they have rules and precautions to prevent this but there is always the chance they sneaked a lil boost but i think its just tech getting crazy because all verts now are hitting.... sooooooo hard.

[@BigFatWedge]

Even if you're not making that up, the tip speed rules are only there for safety reasons. If your bot is still safe(ie the BattleBox can contain it), it doesn't really matter if it's over what the rules say.

[@NeonDeion109]

@@Staurcomb It's because their bar is so wide, they are getting at least 12 inches of contact vs most spinners with like 2-4 inches that just slice through. Most robots don't even go max top speed (180-220mph) because after a certain point you lose torque. Your weapon may spin fast, but it won't have any punch behind, thus making it less beneficial.

[@Camryn-n1q]

So true

[@TKOfromJohn]

​@@NeonDeion109and with cutting out the middle like that it puts more mass towards the outside, allowing a lot more torque and speed to be had, and it might even possibly reduced air resistance.

[@Genecaster]

The power and design of Riptide's spinner is so good. Notice they put almost all of the mass of the drum as far out toward the edge as possible, no reason to spin up mass in the center. I've not seen a single spinner as powerful as Riptide's. And, notice that the edge has a very deliberately designed profile. I think people have accused Riptide's team of cheating but I'm of the opinion that it's really just a great design. Not a lot of spinners have an almost completely open center. Again, this lets you put as much mass out where it is moving as fast as possible, giving the maximum amount of force, without wasting precious bot weight toward the center of the drum.

[@Cyberguy42]

More technically: the open center increases the drum's moment of inertia around the spinning axis and therefore the amount of rotational kinetic energy the drum can build up to inflict on opponents

[@iceman5117]

It's a ripoff of a lighter weight not, down to the holes in the sheet metal...

[@Genecaster]

@@TheInvertedFollicle507 Is scaling up previously successful designs in other weight classes considered cheating? I never made a claim they were the first to do anything because I simply don't know every bot that has ever existed.

[@TheInvertedFollicle507]

@@iceman5117 No it isn't. There's many eggbeater type spinner designs which came before Lynx which I assume is the bot you're referring to. Riptide is a scaled up version of one of Ethan Kurtz's smaller bots Rival which was created totally independently of Lynx. That's a totally false narrative that numerous people including battlebots themelves need to stop propagating.

[@TheInvertedFollicle507]

@@Genecaster Sorry, my mistake replied to the wrong person. But apparently some people who watch BB do think that Riptide cheated for this reason or that reason when their evidence is pretty hollow. But some people do consider Riptide to be a cheap imitation of Lynx when it isn't and people aren't prepared to do the research. They'd rather just lazily make assumptions about things which aren't true and in a way they are falsely accusing Riptide of cheating by blatantly copying their design just like a kid in a school exam copying someome else's homework when that's simply not the case.

[@RandomAxeOfKindness]

When you have a one-hit-destruction weapon, you just gotta hit first and keep hitting, and that's what won this bout real fast.

[@BattlePark92]

Riptide is just something else this season. It was already great when it was a newcomer in World Championship 6, but this year, it looks champion worthy!

[@krystalraquidan8319]

Riptide is notorious for being the most arrogant and self-absorbed bot as well as their building crew. The Los Angeles Lakers of BattleBots. Ethan Kurtz is like Lebron James when it comes to arrogance, self-absorption, and winning mentality.

[@sweetrocks610]

@@krystalraquidan8319 you’re allowed to be cocky and arrogant when nobody else can beat you. They could very easily be world champion this year after they completely obliterated Hypershock

[@krystalraquidan8319]

@@sweetrocks610 They could pull a Ja Morant: get involved into a scandal after the conclusion of the season. I'm assuming that Riptide is worse than Ja Morant, Dillon Brooks, and the rest of the Memphis Grizzlies? Perhaps Ethan Kurtz is acting like Lebron James?

[@sweetrocks610]

@@krystalraquidan8319 they very well could. However, Ethan seems like a completely different person when he is away from the crew. Given that he’s generally more reserved when he isn’t with a group of people, he will probably stay in his own lane.

[@krystalraquidan8319]

@@sweetrocks610 Ethan Kurtz two-faced attitude reminds me of Lebron James on and off the NBA court. (He may pull a Ja Morant after BattleBots concludes its tournament.)

[@Bears11422]

This match has so much passion. It brought a tear to my eye. Dragon had amazing sportsmanship and deserves the recognition they received from an amazing streak of wins. Overall, it was an amazing and exciting match!

[@NeonDeion109]

It wasn't a win streak, only a streak of not losing by KO. I think it's pointless since they were still losing many matches. Tha Record holder went 24-1 without being knocked out. Black Dragon is only 16-9

[@mysterious___1]

Grab a tissue. It’s a robot fight not a love movie.

[@KrakenIsland64]

If the passionate drivers or engineers shed a tear for themselves and their teammates I would say something thoughtful like "cool story bro". If a youtube commentor cried about two human controlled robots smashing each other up I'd say "uhh... you ok dude?"

[@taesim3283]

Wrong way to start the battle. Gave bot's side for free.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

Faruk's intro for riptide was awesome. lmao

[@sharksrcbash]

The outro . . . not so much

[@mikedski9698]

It's Faruq Tauheed! Remember It!

[@OverlordZeroULTIMA]

I feel his "I don't know what any of it means". xD I'm a millenial and feel like Gen Z's are speaking an alien language. :P

[@DMofDMs]

Riptide is a menace, for sure. The size and weight of that weapon is so hard to get around. It just sucks that the team has all these questionable behaviors and a murky foundation to deal with. I'm cool with a pro-wrestling style Heel, but the moment it becomes more than pageantry, it's a problem.

[@bandteeskinnyjeans]

Do you think they are working on their behavior? They didn't go for Black Dragon when it stopped moving, and they seemed to try pumping up the other team after winning by talking about how dangerous Black Dragon was.

[@chickens-yt]

​@Russell Wiley I mean Ethan was kind of a jerk to more than just one team.

[@bandteeskinnyjeans]

@@chickens-yt I'm not familiar with the full history, just that it sounds like they've been jerks behind the scenes, and went for a robot that was already obviously K/O'd. Do you think they're trying to improve? I suppose if they were, it could just be a mask due to them seeing the negative feedback from Battle Bots fans.

[@clawitzeristhebestpokemon8765]

@@bandteeskinnyjeans There's a ton of rumors and shady stuff about them, that they have been exeeding tip speed limit, that they modify their bot after weigh in (they were caught working on it after weigh in before their fight with shatter in last night's episode and came in 2 poinds lighter in a second weigh in) and that they are generally just kind of jerks in the pits. Doesn't help their reputation that they've already shown that thirdd thing and their bot is a 250-pound ripoff of another bot in a lower weight class. My new least favorite bot as a result.

[@jaymorrison2419]

Is it bad that I think it might be time for Tombstone to hand off the mantel of Battlebots heel to these guys?

[@drecknathmagladery9118]

the judges have finaly said it riptide has joined the likes of ziggy and prime tombstone. as one of the most destructive bots in the sports history. also you gotta love when the lights get destroyed. or really any part of the arena even if it means fixing something between fights

[@TedApelt]

Now, THAT is what I call a knockout!

[@thecars570]

Riptide is well engineered and probably the next champ.

[@krystalraquidan8319]

Arrogant champion to be exact.

[@krystalraquidan8319]

@Joi Ja Morant of the Memphis Grizzlies acted arrogant like Riptide and Ethan Kurtz. He's caught with another gun scandal, ending his NBA career for good.

[@ExtremeSquared]

@@krystalraquidan8319 Look up the pro wrestling term "heel". It might all just be showmanship at the cost of positive reputation.

[@mrnobones01]

@@krystalraquidan8319 hilarious. Y’all are so big mad over some EXTREMELY MILD GAMESMANSHIP. This is, regardless of robots, a combat sport. You should google a boomer named Cassius Clay and learn about the history of smack talk in fighting 😳😹

[@deathandbananas2152]

It just needs a self tighter, spare eggbeater bars and it’s good

[@usptact]

Black Dragon didn’t face the opponent just for a second in the very beginning and paid the price. Wish there was more destruction, smoke and fire!

[@RennieAsh]

A few bots seem to try to go around the side. You need to be really fast for that, and most are not.

[@trainhuntersfamily8625]

The referee while counting out BD “I’ve waited a long time this I gotta finish it fast”.

[@jonathanf2392]

With the show hyping black dragon streak for so long, this was pretty much what we all expected to see

[@ExplosiveRobotics]

I knew Riptide would win this but I did not expect them to be so dominant

[@krystalraquidan8319]

Riptide is basically the Boston Celtics/Los Angeles Lakers of BattleBots. Ethan Kurtz on the other hand is like Lebron James when it involves arrogance, self-absorption, winning mentality, hates to lose, and bragging about they're the best in the league while pissing off everyone.

[@bigbeast103]

Bro no one cares about the NBA reference

[@gggamer3851]

​@@krystalraquidan8319 basketball is boring. I'd rather watch robots fight.

[@lordlightskin4200]

@@gggamer3851”gamer” says it all

[@Cbcw76]

Great match-up of two bots with such similar weapons. I think the first blow from either weapon could have yielded a KO. Black Dragon's strategy to run from a head-on confrontation and offer undefended flanks has a mankind-long history of failure. Maybe they'll learn - put yer best weapon forward - don't run, don't open up your flanks for a center position weapon.

[@r3x85]

Finally a fight where Riptide doesn't shred a bot to bits

[@what-fw5vk]

Glitch

[@kaseycrooks5080]

That's the point of battlebots rip them apart so boring otherwise

[@Theprophet3928]

​@@kaseycrooks5080No it isn't. They're even changing the rules to prevent unnecessary damage.

[@RennieAsh]

@@kaseycrooks5080 It would be fun to do that, but these days it's too expensive and you need the bot for the next fight in hours. You don't get knocked out once and take a year to come back like before :) NHRL on the other hand, can have some interesting matches lol

[@PercalTM]

I love Riptide. The diehard battle bots fans hate them but casuals love the destruction they make and want more.

[@GetHypedandShocked]

I'd like them if the team was nice but they're not, they're rude to other teams and broke a rule last episode when they were modifying their bot after weighing it before the fight

[@GoatedAtNFS]

Riptide just cheated even if Shatter sucks

[@NeonDeion109]

@@GetHypedandShocked Were they mean in this episode?

[@GetHypedandShocked]

@@NeonDeion109 Yeah. They got pretty mad about a team pointing out that they were cheating. I can't remember exactly what they said but they were all really mad about being called out

[@Kyros420]

@@GetHypedandShockedNot this episode this was like two weeks ago way before the round of 32 riptide was extremely nice with black dragon in this episode lol get your facts straight everyone needs to stop hating riptide for no damn reason the shatter team sucks soo bad they literally accused riptide of going over the top speed limit so paranoid much riptide never broke any rule

[@drunkmonkey1337]

Riptide’s weapon is incredibly powerful. I think having relatively low drivetrain is actually useful for them as it’s easier to have fine tuned movements and keep the bot in the direction it needs to be - they don’t need to outrun our out maneuver other bots, they simply need to face their weapon the direction of the other bot at all times.

[@NeonDeion109]

They actually have one of tha quickest bots in tha field. He uses its speed for box rushes and follow-up shots

[@man_in_space]

The emcee/announcer guy…he’s perfect for this.

[@DJLucas-xv7oe]

Riptide is the Jackson Storm of Battlebots.

[@StormsOutdoors-ge1ym]

Riptide is going to ride the wave of victory and riptide is my favorite machine

[@rocotaco5517]

Damn man that was a very dominant win for Riptide, but also Kenny Florian is there as commentator like man im surprised to see him there

[@RichardKrom-ul5zo]

"OUTSTANDING"! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@chrisnizer5702]

That was a thorough ass-whipping there. What a great show, love to binge watch these matches. Thanks for the video my friend, good stuff. 👍 👍

[@thomasconnolly7452]

WOW. That was fast.

[@dosgatosnegros]

Great ad placement!

[@burneraccount-ce6yz]

30sec fight for 9min video

[@clikzip]

Thats the entire show. they are two hour episodes i just skip to the fights and can watch an entire episode in less than 20 minutes.

[@deadeye_john]

They gotta put in context

[@PlagueDoctorscp049]

Cry more

[@jordanbopp3340]

They should’ve tried to sync their spinner speeds to mesh the weapons together for a moment

[@blugunrepublic9760]

An entertaining battle to see would be Riptide vs Carbide from the Robot wars series. Carbide was by far my fav robot from the robot fighting series and was also a force to be reckoned with.

[@dosgatosnegros]

Awesome beard Faruk.

[@Willen_6]

Black dragon should of went heads up or should not have let riptide get an open hit at the start

[@johnrobertson7583]

Their weapon cant go head to head with a spinner like riptide…you saw it twice just a few seconds in…

[@Willen_6]

@johnrobertson7583 the right wedge could of bettered there chances

[@thecars570]

Black Dragon will get slayed again if they face Riptide a second time.

[@warmwaterpenguin]

This felt like watching the Undertaker end his streak

[@MagikFingers420]

Their motor can stay rotating even after giving a hit which is very impressive, most bot weapons stop after hit.

[@marydyche6912]

As goji center once said "this isnt a battle its an execution!"

[@Varatil]

Wow just imagine being the judges as 250 pounds of robot come shooting toward your face

[@RennieAsh]

Lisa Winter getting things thrown at her

[@danofiremano]

The Relentless Riptide!

[@WWEWorldHeavyweightChampion]

I imagine is like Red Eyes-Black Dragon

[@edsonedy5783]

Acho que o Black Dragon merece reformular sua agressividade. Que tal uma peça rotatória maior, sem imitar o Riptide, que é mais larga.

[@Juan-Far]

Fighting Riptide It's like getting inside of a blender

[@scribbles1940]

I feel like riptide has something going on with airflow keeping it pinned to the ground.

[@thathondakid8256]

They need to check riptide

[@wudznutt6732]

They checked everything aspect after Wrigley's whining. He was praying g or a disqualification so he wouldn't have to fight them. When you're a dramatic, consistent winner, everyone is going to suggest that you are cheating.

[@veganssuck2155]

for what?

[@hopeanneking3228]

In Greek riptide is all the clues most I’m using voice to text. It’s really on a Kleusch most. Did you guys see that first shot riptides one hell of a bot

[@BotvacProductions469]

Tombstone needs to show riptide who is boss

[@ArmyVeteran25U]

Have the hammers in the corner ever done any damage?

[@jothki]

I've seen them jam a wheel by bending armor into it.

[@robertgoodale7204]

👹WOW! 👹

[@Theprophet3928]

The most justified his screaming has ever been

[@mikedski9698]

Tidal Wave Riptide K.O. Flaming Black Dragon!

[@OJB42]

Wow, that was a massacre!

[@Phil-S8]

Someone please beat riptide

[@GoatedAtNFS]

their time is coming

[@gtcreations7666]

Endgame I have a strong feeling it's Endgame....

[@GoatedAtNFS]

@@gtcreations7666 not with its dumb forks. it kills the speed of gameplay for the bot

[@ChazyChiIl]

Go watch sawblaze vs riptide then

[@matthewmiller7207]

I think your best bet is Hydra. And that won't happen until the final.

[@johnberrio1925]

Shocking to see black dragon like this......as far as reliabilty black dragon has always been like the glock pistol in regards to reliability and durability

[@bbd1254]

What season is this in?

[@OverlordZeroULTIMA]

7 (on Discovery +, it's mislabled as 8). It's an ongoing season so expect spoilers and a lot of Riptide controversy posts.

[@davidedwards3361]

To save viewers having to put up with all the BS first, the fight actually starts at 5.45, and goes to 6.54.

[@deadeye_john]

Its not BS. Its context. This is still a TV show

[@mrnobones01]

Riptide has broken the drum spinner code 🤯

[@gggamer3851]

Nope. They passed all the tip speed tests they were forced to endure.

[@mrnobones01]

@@gggamer3851 i mean they seem to have found the perfect balance between a drum spinner and a vertical disc

[@gggamer3851]

@@mrnobones01 gotcha.

[@fakebobbyhill296]

If you want a winning robot, hire a gamer driver.

[@z-super4782]

Eh, riptide is cool the team is very rude. I'm sorry but this is the cleanest fight they have had and then what every other fight has been unnecessary damage. Idk, they definitely did something to there bot that made it 2 lbs lighter in the future battles. Seems to me they're getting away with a lot.

[@OverlordZeroULTIMA]

I think the latest ep had an even cleaner one in a way. Minus Ethan's swearing - which is predictable, as well as his earth shattering "LET'S GOOOOOOOO!" - the team was actually rather humble and I really liked it compared to his Shatter, Shred, and MadCatter fights. He didn't need to really say "f the haters" on national television, though. That's a thought to keep to yourself or your team when no one's nearby. Still taking that with a bag of salt though because like you said, this season's basically been mostly Riptide controversies and misbehavior. While the BD fight and fight from last week (I won't say who yet, but if you know you know) were actually rather similar to their rookie season, I don't trust Ethan or his team to actually continue acting as humans and not a bunch of bloodthirsty baffoons.

[@TKOfromJohn]

So if anything, they REMOVED something. I don't think that means they are running a cheated bot you dunce

[@ShadowWolf149]

I think it’s because there was a child around so he behaved differently compared to the last fights… I want to see arrogant people loose so I want them to loose at some point or someone truly catches them cheating

[@chr_wgnr]

In german tv pls

[@tsitracommunications2884]

More like Ripoff Tide

[@veganssuck2155]

its literally just a moving chassis with the biggest weapon they could shove on it. its not that unique of a design. who ever they "ripped off" probably stole it from somewhere else

[@lilhope421]

Why he do him like that

[@TrollK1ng]

The actual fight was 53 seconds long... so why is the video over 9 minutes? I won't be back to this channel.

[@briananderson8733]

2023 regular season episode 714.

[@bbd1254]

Thank you 🙏

[@tobywebb2112]

Check their rpms. They've broken rules before.

[@Dafastso]

riptide hauls ass lol

[@patterry8610]

one fight, just one fight, verry sad. show more fights less talk talk talk. BOOO

[@ryanbarker5217]

riptide decided to rip off the right design

[@marchelfman3278]

To call these vehicles robots is absurd. They are remote controlled contraptions involved in a demolition derby which I guess is entertaining, but please don’t call them robots.

[@what-fw5vk]

They’re not vehicles either.

[@deadeye_john]

No. These are robots from the start. Nobody complained back then. Nobody will now

[@grapploct2796]

If/when it’s proven that Riptide has been cheating on Weapon Tip Speed Black Dragon should have that knockout omitted from their career.

[@veganssuck2155]

theyve literally checked. riptide is legit. stay butthurt lmao

[@Greg-fc3pw]

No one cares about the intro,get to the battle

[@deadeye_john]

You need context first.