Quintinshill train collision 105 years later

Eerily reminiscent to another fatal 3 train collision that would take place several years later in Harrow we touch on the worst train wreck in British history and one of the most tragic stories from the first world war. This is by far my longest documentary but despite the age of the wreck, there was certainly a lot to talk about.
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[@HSMiyamoto]

Quintinshill is a tragic example of how a railway accident is usually the result of multiple errors, not just one failure.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

That's the case in pretty much almost every disaster. They don't just happen. They are a chain of critical events that eventually lead to the critical moment.

[@luckykai7473]

​@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren did any of the cars survive because last year on rememberance day i was at a train car that was at a port and people where talking about a train crash involving scottish soliders now this couldve been a train crash where i was 100 and a bit year ago because the area i was standing on used to be train tracks cant remeber much about it though but it was either an old car from around that period or a recreation sorry about bad spelling and detail i they also had a recreation of the scots uniforms

[@chase_2566]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren hi

[@nigelmurphy6761]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren yep. In every accident there's usuallyt nearly always more than one cause

[@alexhando8541]

@@luckykai7473 No, all of the carriages were scrapped, but a carriage of the same design of those that made up the troop train was restored and has had two memorial plaques attatched to it. It now resides where I volunteer, which is at the Mountsorrel Railway, near Loughborough, Leicestershire, Central England.

[@WCWThunderRosa]

So basically we’ve got 5 trains trying to fit on 4 lines, yeah? Train go boom.

[@davidzanelli6847]

Oi, mate, so what we've got 'ere is a wee-bit of a tight squeeze. Looks like we're trying to fit a bit too many trains on this line, ye? Rather schtewpid, innit?

[@davidzanelli6847]

@CharlieRobloxKerbal *epic movie voice*

[@JasontheFolf]

Boom boom

[@jenniferwright5536]

Flying Gamer I had the same thought

[@kadebruce295]

CharlieRobloxKerbal 5 trains, 4 lines ,1 collision, hotel? Trivago.

[@Captain_Yorkie1]

Signalman: I feel like I'm forgetting something. Looks outside window. Signalman: Bollocks.

[@jubilee782]

😂

[@florjanbrudar692]

Captain Yorkie YT I hope this is exactly what he thought or said or at least something like that

[@adamchmielewski6162]

Signalman: I feel like I’m forgetting something. Others: If you forgot, then it wasn’t important. Signalman: Yeah, you’re probably right. *Five engines on four lines*

[@monnaagdamag855]

No

[@josephhosty-locke9223]

I’m so glad i checked the comments after

[@lcmortensen]

Bonus fact: Quintinshill signal box didn't close until 1973 when the line was resignalled ahead of electrification (completed 1974).

[@concept5631]

That's a 70 year long history. Damn.

[@florjanbrudar692]

@@concept5631 Yes, but lcmortensen's comment is old.

[@concept5631]

@@florjanbrudar692 Ok?

[@Jaidyn228]

I’m surprised beeching didn’t chop it to pieces himself early in the modernization plan

[@j.a.g1291]

@@Jaidyn228You’ll be surprised how many mechanical signal boxes remain on the network in the uk. It’s true that it’s being phased out, but a lot of branch lines still work this way. In fact, there are some large mainline lever frames that are still in use today: Stockport has a cluster of 5 boxes that remain because the new system simply couldn’t cope with the complex layout. And Shrewsbury has the largest box left: I believe it’s called Severn junction. While this video implies otherwise, the absolute block system works, and is very safe WHEN OPERATED CORRECTLY.

[@sly123size]

i could imagine if they make this as a movie

[@TrainFanShorts]

Same dude.

[@glasgowandwestdunbartonshi8934]

Yes

[@user-sd7qo7qe4v]

Caleb Tyink And mutate it into some sort of action drama with explosions and crap like that.

[@844SteamFan]

@@user-sd7qo7qe4v Please no!

[@hertz3083]

You look like jaba the hutt lol

[@georgeheld1901]

8:26 I really like the chart diagram, you should put them on more videos, they make it easier to understand sometimes

[@user-sp7rc9nu3z]

You can find it on wikipedia btw

[@stashyjon]

Well done. i've studied the Quintinshill crash for many years as an amature railway historian, and that is one of most concise and ballanced accounts I've come across. Keep up the good work.

[@_Maelgon_]

*when u see a documentary from thunder for the 1st time in 3 weeks* ;~;

[@Thathondakid2000]

Ya

[@parrotdragon7466]

Ya

[@beverlyarcher3744]

When you see a video from him on the same day for the first time 😂😂😂😂

[@RyansColoradoRailProductions]

when u see a documentary from me for the 1st time in a year: tomorrow

[@_Maelgon_]

Ryan’s Colorado Rail Productions bruh....now I’m exited...

[@stationmasterkuma]

2:36 railfans when they go into creative mode

[@alexanderhall5269]

OH now i get it lol Very, very true in Minecraft.

[@Spookster8178]

I don’t get it

[@stationmasterkuma]

@@Spookster8178 you dont know what minecraft is?

[@jakeford12]

I just noticed that he is floating

[@Spookster8178]

Nvm

[@victorianocabral8861]

R.I.P passengers and soliders who died R.I.P

[@vincitveritas3872]

I go to Quintinshill 22nd May 06.50 every year. Not this year due to Covid 19. Next year I'll be there.

[@adamnielsen9929]

Soldiers*

[@vincitveritas3872]

@@adamnielsen9929 thanks didn't notice that! Was not tearful at time. Wish I could of been at Quintinshill on anniversary this year but for covid restrictions. I'll go next year with remeberance cross blessed by priest. They will never be forgotten.

[@Wizlo_OP]

😞😞😞😞😞

[@Wizlo_OP]

😭

[@n1ght_243]

Hold up this just premiered and there's already 2 dislikes what the hell guys...

[@itsjusttyler5315]

Its just salty Karen’s who complain about the documentaries when their kids watch the video

[@williambryant5946]

I think some people give a thumbs down because the train wreck and people dying not because the video was of bad quality. When I first started on youtube I was unsure of what to do when the quality of the video was good but the things in the video were sad and I didn't want anyone to think I was giving the terrible situation in the video a like instead of saying the video was well done. So I gave some thumbs down on good videos before I understood completely how it worked.

[@terryaltherr2481]

It's the corporations who are angry that the monetization feature allows ads on videos they don't want to be associated with

[@evosagara]

Dont worry about the dislikers they are trash

[@xavierrodriguez2914]

How can you dislike this?!?!

[@Sinc3r3ly]

I just wanna say I love your content. It's informative and entertaining yet not boring. When I draw I'll often put your videos on in the background. Honestly GG!!

[@williamsquires3070]

Amazing Grace on bagpipes always brings a tear to my eyes regardless of who died, or when.

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

Shit, even without someone dying, it's hard to not go misty-eyed hearing Amazing Grace on the 'pipes.

[@Cubsfan_75]

Me too man

[@toddbloomer8812]

I love how you're able to make the lead up to a crash not boring. You go into such deep detail about what is going on at every turn, which normally would be boring. But you do it in such a way that... enraptured the viewer's attention. I love your videos and how you go into such great detail, and this video is no different 😁

[@TweetsieRailroader]

7:18 "What Responsible Driver would stop, as if he were at a roadside layby? It's Rule 55, You Can't Do It!" The Rev. W. Awdry.

[@SteamTrainTy]

Rev. W. Awdry? As in, the the creator of Thomas the tank engine?

[@ayeshafenner7180]

The very same.

[@florjanbrudar692]

@@SteamTrainTy No other person has that name.

[@jamesfracasse8178]

Sir Topham Hat: this accident has caused confusion and delay😮😢

[@sharksman20rocks]

@@jamesfracasse8178 Donald and Douglas: “Aye, especially on our old line (The Caledonian Railway)”

[@MurrayJoe]

I first read of this in the book, “Red for Danger.” It’s a great book to learn about early train disasters, one other notable was the Clayton Tunnel crash. Which occurred when a signal did not go back to stop.

[@Thathondakid2000]

Thanks for doing the tugs voice in your last stream puts a smile on my face

[@nicolaroberts6875]

Exceptionally well done and extensively researched. Even more amazing is the fact that it's been produced by someone not native to the UK.

[@Nick-sw6rh]

Finally a Documentary

[@jayhunt2600]

The Hitton train collision is a Documentary, too!

[@Nate-vd2ji]

I thought they were all documentary?

[@SRR475]

Jay Hunt *hinton

[@privatejoker5403]

I got told stories of this by my great grandpa because his dad was there and it was brutal solders burnt to death and shot by there own officers because it was the best thing for them so they wold not burn to death but after that my family loved the railway strange that

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

I'd rather take one to the head than burn alive.

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

As an American, I am unfamiliar with the English meaning of guards and signal boxes in this context. Could you enlighten me? SIgnal boxes, in American, is and always have been a device that houses electrical components for the signals.

[@florjanbrudar692]

Great*

[@antonrudenham3259]

@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 On a freight train the last wagon was known as the guards van, it contained rudimentary living facilities and brake operating levers, you might know it as a caboose? The guy in this was the guard, that might be a brakesman to you? This event took place before electrification and all of the points and signals were operated by hand meaning that there was a mechanical connection between the array of levers in the signal box and the actual points and signals. The signal box is the solitary building by the side of the line in the video. The signal man occupied the box and was responsible for the section of track covered by that box. Back in 1915 I'm sure you guys had a similar set up but under different names. So Jed, what did you guys call the guy that pulled the levers that operated the signals and points? Nowadays a signal box is indeed actually a junction box where electrical components like breakers and relays are concentrated for convenience sake.

[@Martin_Adams184]

@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 Guards are the people who in the States are usually called conductors. In Britain, they are in charge of the train, with special emphasis on operational and safety issues other than those directly controlled by the locomotive and its driver (i.e. engineer). I think it is essentially the same in the USA and Canada. A signal box in Britain is called an interlocking or signalling tower in North America. I think that the boxes that house electrical components for signals are what, in Britain, are called signalling cabinets.

[@es-fw4qc]

As a Brit, I gotta hand it to you, an American who got these pronunciations pretty spot on (something nearly unheard of, so well done)

[@tescotrain]

This the 1st Scottish train wreck documentary, nice!

[@jessehippoears3337]

Yea finally

[@sirrliv]

I'm sure it won't be the last.

[@SteamTrainTy]

Where?

[@SteamTrainTy]

Oh wait, I thought that you typed “accent”

[@mikelucas3559]

Une petite photo pour vous tous ces deux heures à te faire à Paris avec mon père à côté d’une personne

[@ajaxengineco]

I missed the premier because I was asleep but watching this now, as a Britishman, it's exceptionally well made. I particularly like the use of Caledonian Railway hooter whistles while demonstrating the crash. As only 2 passengers on the local perished, I'm imagining the reactions. 'Whatever was that awful bump, I shall complain, this is absolutely terrible.' 'I think it was more then a bump, our engine has become a pile of crushed wreckage.'

[@steveturner5656]

Some points. 1) The signal-box was in fact run on two and a half shifts, Tinsley and Meakin alterating every so often to do the two long shifts (6am-4pm and 8pm-6am) and a relief signalman covering the four hour gap. 2) The picture of the Cardean class locomotive is good but slightly misleading; the local train only had four vehicles. 3) The illegal arrangement thing is slightly incorrect. At the inquiry both men admitted that it had begun when Meakin was assigned to the box two and a half years before; Tinsley only benefited from the local being shunted at Quintinshill since the war had caused the heavier traffic that necessitated this.. 4) Hutchinson left the box at around 643. It was around this time that Tisey's actions suggested that he had completely forgotten about the local train, despite it bringing him to work and the fireman he had stood behind having just been in his box. 5) A curious thing as regarded the unsent Blocking Back signal; records showed that on the four occasions the local had been wrong-roaded recently, that signal had been correctly sent. 6) It was not that unusual for old-time railway companies to rehire staff in this way; the North Eastern Railway had done it after the Thirsk disaster in 1892. Also, the fact that two of the men's superiors suffered what were demotions in all but name suggests that Caledonian suspected they were at least partly culpable in not ensuring rules were followed. Interestingly they even gave Meakin's wife a job suring his jail time. 7) The rather lame BBC documentary went all guns blazing for the railway company and largely let the government off. However the wartime government had put companies like the Caley into an impossible position by not paying full price for their many trains. The companies could either run enough other trains to make a profit, or go under. This shabby treatment led to the Grouping of 1922-1923 when the 120+ companies were merged into the Big Four. 8) The epilepsy defence is weak, particularly as it only emerged after the accident. 9) Thisvideo was downright brilliant!

[@Plokman040]

Holy freaking crap!!! Now I know why my dad linked this, my family name is mentioned loudy here. Nimmo, and this was a Scottish section of the line! They could of been distant relatives, I knew railroads/railways had a deep connection to my family but this is just oh my!

[@Dekko-chan]

I love the format that you make these videos in. Its very early-2000s. I like it.

[@cf1925]

12:20 tbh sent a chill down my back.

[@kbtiger1279]

The rendition of Amazing Grace you added to the end was well fitting! Good job!

[@dreamsofparis5535]

More than an hour after premiere! I must say, I'm glad you're expanding outside the USA. Kinda wondering if you'll touch on the worst train disasters outside the USA. Edit: Forgot about the Tangiwai Disaster! Sorry! Was tired last night!

[@joefrew1614]

Don’t also forget about the Armagh train wreck as well

[@dreamsofparis5535]

@@joefrew1614 Grrrrrrr! So many videos! I can't seem to keep track!

[@battleshipfan3435]

And the only train crash in japan

[@844SteamFan]

@@battleshipfan3435 lol

[@patricklee1633]

@@battleshipfan3435 Hopefully, he'll also get to the 1988 Gare De Lyon incident in Paris, France too.

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

This was very tragic. Rest in peace all the victims of the troop train and the other 2 trains as well.

[@lazydragon2551]

In all honesty, those who were so badly injured they got sent home. That wreck was a blessing in disguise. They got saved from a much worse fate.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

They had already got their taste of hell on earth so they didn't need more.

[@CriticalMaster95]

Could you do the 2004 Sri Lanka tsunami train wreck? That was the deadliest one in history.

[@whitetiger7411]

Same

[@patricklee1633]

@Samantha Kamman Ditto.

[@brendanu1680]

@@patricklee1633 no way! no way! Oh heck no! I wanted valhana and Westbury, not wrecks worse than big bayou!

[@furioussherman7265]

That one wasn't caused by human error or mechanical failures, however. It was the result of a natural disaster.

[@sharksman20rocks]

@@furioussherman7265 the same happened with the Tangiwai disaster

[@abedbush]

EXCELLENT documentary! Thunderbolt 1000 Siren does a wonderful job, I love his stuff. How can I support him? I’ve never used Patreon but I want to support his work. He did such a nice job on this piece, it was so appropriate. Also, I *LOVE* it when he features other voices! They always do an amazing job too. Two thumbs up!!! 👍 👍

[@singletruckshaystudios6828]

The last time I was this early to a video this crash was breaking news

[@844SteamFan]

Lol

[@florjanbrudar692]

Wdym breaking news?

[@florjanbrudar692]

@Xavier Ménard I know what he means, I just didn't get the "breaking news" part

[@levidarling5107]

Oh my gosh! This is worse than the Tangiwai train disaster in New Zealand. This scary stuff, yet a really good video.

[@allandavis8201]

Whilst I love everything mechanical I don’t usually watch railway or train related, but your videos are informative and interesting, the events are explained in a way that enthusiasts and casual viewers can understand, in this case it seems that it was a disaster just waiting to happen, with procedures, regulations and individuals all to blame for this tragedy, I think we all get fed up with health and safety inspectors and rules, but if the health and safety executive had been in existence at the time this accident might never have happened or at least possibly not as bad. Thanks for sharing your excellent work very interesting. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@allandavis8201]

Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions, I appreciate how much work you must put in on every episode you produce, and I would like to be a Patreon supporter as well, but unfortunately my limited budget will not allow for it, all I can do is give moral support and hope you can keep on doing your videos they are so well made and informative, thanks again. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@Gojira160]

​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenThere were four accidents before the Quintinshill Disaster, not on the Caledonian Railway, but on the LBSCR, from 1897 to 1910.

[@Gojira160]

​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenThere are also 5 accidents on the Great Northern Railway.

[@jenniferhalczuk224]

Ah yes, I love a good documentary that’s interesting. Like the ones before it.

[@caileanthomson1286]

Great video, Thunder. As a Scotsman, it pleased me to hear you pronounce the difficult to say Scottish names very well. Keep up the great work, sir!

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Glad I could please you. But goodness me it took several outtakes to get it right. Thankfully some names were easy like Edinburgh as I've watched so many videos from Airline (UK) including the freak out compilations by Arthur TV.

[@RufusT9]

Good account I reckon. I live not far from here, and visiting the site today you get the impression that apart from the absence of the box which was removed in the 1970s, Quintinshill and its passing loops have not changed and is as silent as it would have been before the accident that summer morning in May. There is (or was) elsewhere on KZbin a BBC Horizon 1972 documentary presented by Paul Vaughan which showed the interior of the box.

[@Decgyrrl]

How sad, all those lives lost. May they rest peacefully. 🙏🏽⚘✝️🕊 Thank you, for a documentary well told.👍🏼

[@collinblack8474]

Thanks for explaining the accident. And the amazing grace done by bagpipes was very nice. An accident that should never have happened.

[@alecbutler2450]

I really like to hear different wreck stories and thought of different others that can be explained as well. Some of them come from 1972 BBC special on train wrecks which included Quintin's hill known as Rail Crash. Also, after watching the Big Boy wreck a while back, I remembered a story about a C&O Allegheny boiler explosion from a DVD. Something to look into, but otherwise, keep up the good work.

[@raulsanchez2756]

Reminds me of a ATC forgetting that a local commuter was on the main runway waiting for clearance to proceed. A passenger airliner landed on top of that plane. One of the Koch brothers was a passenger in the airliner. Happened LA or SF sometime in 1980s.

[@sharksman20rocks]

I know what you’re talking about, it happened in 1991, involving a 737 and a swearington metroliner

[@jamesc4999]

I've seen a BBC documentary on this it is nice to see a different perspective

[@niallstewart2383]

There is also a book called the Quintinshill conspiracy and it is also a modern day re-examined railway inquiry to the accident on that day and it explains how it was cover up by the Caledonian railway company and the British Government.

[@ritchiesiepman5511]

I love these docus bro. I hope you make one of the collision in my county (that's the Netherlands btw). You can find some info on Wikipedia about the Harmelen juction train wreck

[@nicholastodd2060]

An amazing documentary, keep up the great work! :)

[@luv2sail66]

Interesting and informative video about this tragedy. Thank you for your excellent work.

[@thecoldnorth5132]

Great documentary mate! Never even knew about this and that it was the worst train wreck in my country’s history

[@benjaminhannigan4651]

Oh yeah I been waiting for a documentary

[@thomasoates3003]

Thanks for looking at a UK accident. This is one that is, sadly, mostly forgotten in popular culture.

[@alisonwilson9749]

I gather that news about it was kept to a minimum because it was wartime, and involved troops. By the end of the war, it was some years ago and so got rather forgotten.

[@thomasoates3003]

@@alisonwilson9749 It was reported on at the time, but has since been rather overshadowed by the War. 220 dead, although tragic, is a drop in the ocean compared to the bloodbath that was the Western Front.

[@ricechung8319]

WOW!11MINS of information,I'm proud of you.

[@CaliGSXR1K]

Rest In Peace to the soldiers😭

[@Henriqueleal0609]

This was 107 years ago...

[@nigelmurphy6761]

@@Henriqueleal0609 105 years ago.

[@Henriqueleal0609]

Nigel Murphy 107

[@patricklee1633]

@@Henriqueleal0609 106 years ago today.

[@jameswright7284]

Really enjoyed this one. I know images are pretty hard to get hence one image showing an LNER engine a bit before it's time. But otherwise really great video I wasn't aware of the rumour that soldiers put people out of their misery so thank you very much for that titbit of information.

[@xtbrat4355]

After this Clapham junction happened where three passenger trains collided.

[@calldfwp2230]

And in between them was harrow and wealdstone where three trains also collided

[@is4041]

We like coliding 3 trains in the uk dont we

[@MrTankThatStopped]

Apparently, i s..... that is true, but the accidents involve shitty signals and drivers, Clapham was poorly wired signals, and The Harrow and wealdshire accident was because a shitty driver was on the perth express (unstreamlined duchess class)

[@chafanonash3418]

To make things even worse, the cause was I believe one of the guys in the tower nearby arrived on one of the trains involved. That bastard literally forgot it.

[@calldfwp2230]

@@MrTankThatStopped also because the driver passed a red signal because he couldn't see it in the fog.

[@kmwmlw]

A brilliant presentation. Well done.

[@LUIGI-gx8bf]

As a huge train fan I’d say this channel is great

[@MrOof-mt9zg]

Yes I’ve been wanting this

[@TheHollowGHOST]

Fantastic video! Thank you for this one! Just a couple of (small) pronunciation issues for future reference: "Beatock" is pronounced "Bee-tock" "Moffat" is pronounced "Moffit" Although I am impressed that you pronounced Glasgow and Edinburgh correctly - from what I've heard on American media, those two get pronounced wrongly quite often!

[@tonymartin6361]

And Carlisle is pronounced Carl Isle.

[@mixazizu]

I've been waiting for you to do Quintishill disaster for months and here it is.

[@marcus_rrp_productions2648]

My childhood friend really loves your video on Quintinshill. He's got scottish roots. So he took a special interest in it when he heard this wreck happened in Scotland. He has seen your many videos as well but preferred videos of Wrecks from 100+ years ago

[@Wondering13]

I love trains!!!

[@diegosalazar1607]

(Gets run over)

[@xtbrat4355]

Guy: Look here comes that TrainsGender guy. TrainsGender Guy: I like trains. Everyone:*Gets ran over by train*

[@hamtrak_p42dcamtrak67]

You don’t say

[@glasgowandwestdunbartonshi8934]

I love trains too

[@SRR475]

Danielito Depapi heck yea

[@amtrakfan3023]

Could you please do the 2002 metrolink train collision with the BNSF train

[@yeoldeseawitch]

I'd prefer the Santiago de compostela high speed train crash in Spain in July of 2013

[@thomasaesir5647]

@@yeoldeseawitch I also want to see that one.

[@battleshipfan3435]

@@thomasaesir5647 its a infamous crash in train history,he should just do it

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

Train Services involved in the Quintinshill Rail Disaster of 1915. 1. Local service - Making all stops from Carlisle to Beattock. 2. The Express Trains - Making limited stops London to Glasgow and Edinburgh. 3. Troop Special to Gretna. 4. Northbound Freight service to Glasgow. 5. Southbound Coal train to Wales.

[@josephbland1999]

Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions, am a Highlander and didn't know that much about this crash, we have had a couple derailments up here in recent years. (Freight speeding near Aviemore derailing in the snow and highspeed trains hitting landslips). Luckily head to head collisions seem to be a thing of the past. I did hear of one that happened around the seventies though near Dundee that was brutal, two passenger trains with one at a halt and another express or something on the same line behind it but I don't know too much about it.(sorry) If you want another idea for a Scottish video there is the famous The Tay Bridge Disaster of 1879. Great video

[@penkagenova7073]

When you said 1915 I legit thought of the Lusitania but other than that another great video

[@florjanbrudar692]

Lusitania's been underwater for 15 days when this accident happened.

[@jayhunt2600]

2:19, What happened to that poll in the background?! It's very crooked that a train might smash into it!

[@lovecntrains2732]

The saddest story ever it almost made me cry this taught me a lesson and everybody watching this to always be careful around tracks everybody please be safe not just that be safe even if you're not close to tracks I know the stories about a train Collision but be careful out there

[@peterjonesz]

i wasnt sure if i was going to like the style of this but well presented

[@phill1451]

yay new documentary

[@pa.trains]

yay

[@ks_56]

ÿäÿ

[@union_4014]

yay

[@parrotdragon7466]

Ya yeet

[@aerofiles5044]

Yay

[@Surfliner450]

I saw the History Guy episode about this

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

So did I. Did get quite a bit of information from his video. His however goes into WAY more detail as that guy is like a walking Encyclopedia. Love his work

[@Jetthehawk1994]

I'm a bit confused. Which train came from where?

[@samanthabradley1245]

Also known as the abbots Ripton train Collision I wish you can make a video about it

[@florjanbrudar692]

That accident is completely different

[@DTRProductions.]

8:45 that crash sound will give me a nightmare if a two trains crashed where i live i would be scared

[@DanielReyes-nm3lw]

CYNTHIYAH YISRAEL I find The train crashing noise very satisfying

[@battleshipfan3435]

@@DanielReyes-nm3lw the hekk

[@DTRProductions.]

well not me

[@Samxd90]

I got jumpscared

[@JDT-Loadsamoney]

I believe there was this documentary on this a watched when I was six. I only watched because I loved trains, and still do. Yeah, I think this was the one they were talking about

[@MrTankThatStopped]

Thunderbolt: But there was a problem, Ad: my father, has left us. Me: B R U H

[@jayamd3579]

the 'Pipes at the end are much appreciated! Alba gu brath

[@florjanbrudar692]

17:11 Guilty and arrested, but re-hired after release like *nothing* happened?! That's just pure bullshit!

[@TheSteamdriver]

There's a conspiracy theory that the whole company was poor at keeping to the rules from the stationmaster to not stopping the signalman from getting on the train at the wrong side. The signalman caused the accident shouldn't have gone on to work because the authors of the book I have read claims he had epilepsy. And the stationmaster/inspector to not doing spot checks on the men in the box. So the theory is that signals took the blame to cover up the rule breaking of the caledonian railway (CR) so that when they got out they got jobs there again. As I said it is a conspiracy theory. But I think it's a plausible one as it is the only one that seems to cover everything.

[@andrewlucia865]

@@TheSteamdriver While possible, I believe Occam's Razor applies here. Namely, there was a war on and they needed every able-bodied man they could get, so they were allowed to return to work. Not in the same positions, of course, but return to work nonetheless.

[@tractorjunkco9431]

Your videos are awesome and your voice fits very well with the atmosphere.

[@johnclayden1670]

A splendid explanation and as clear as anything I've watched or read about the accident, starting with LTC Rolt's book 'Red for Danger'.

[@freyamurray7951]

I've heard about the disaster before and let me tell you I was horrfied to see burning choaches

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

I was not expecting this. But I was expecting to not expect something so whatever.

[@ZeldaTheSwordsman]

It _is_ a rather extreme failure for Tinsley to have forgotten about the local train's presence when *he himself arrived on it* , so epilepsy screwing with him is not an impossibility. As for the two men being let out early and re-hired... Well, that was because they were able-bodied men and there was a war on.

[@LUIGI-gx8bf]

If your a train fan then this channel (or maybe also mr Ryan’s channel) is your best pick

[@gkess7106]

8:40 was the first time I could picture what was going on!

[@gurtison6883]

Sometime in the future, I would like to hear about the crash in East Aurora.

[@scoobycarr5558]

As I may recall it was the wreck of a Burlington Northern freight and a train from Southern Pacific on the west end of Eola Yard in Aurora early 1990s

[@brianwong7285]

1:17 He would later take command the British Grand Fleet during the Battle of Jutland which took place on May 31st 1916. However he would be demoted after that battle...

[@brianwong7285]

The Royal Scots who were on the troop train were actually supposed to be heading for the Middle East, because there was a campaign going on at the time at a place called Gallipoli, in the Ottoman Empire (today’s Turkey.)

[@daveroche6522]

Thank you; these are excellent reports - forgotten/overlooked history.

[@therebals2275]

Do the kismet train collisions where two USA Frieght trains collided

[@apr859]

Cameraman railfan did it already Edit ryans colorado trains. I get confused with this stuff

[@union_4014]

ryans colorado rail productions and cameramanrailfan already did

[@salinerailfan3907]

@@union_4014 Yes, but thunder tends to do them better

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

@@salinerailfan3907 pfft oh stop it you're too kind! Though I will admit both do a great job in their work especially Ryan who's helped with a few of my videos such as the Cayce collision and 4005 videos.

[@therebals2275]

Yeah you do a great job and I loved Ryan’s and when I saw it I thought “thunderbolt would do great at this”

[@patsmith6867]

2:48 That's a Hansome Fellow there Nicely Dressed and Pleasant looking . uh , wait it says "Peterhead Prison" .

[@makelifefun7153]

Third time watching this one. Great job. I enjoy your docs more than the others I've see.

[@vondumozze738]

Most excellent presentation! You've outdone yourself, and I really tsok notice of all the credits you listed, even the kids throwing rocks at a UP freight!

[@Daniel-sf4mr]

I hope it’s not a very deadly British train wreck cuz I’m British

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Well... About that...

[@Daniel-sf4mr]

Of course a deadly train wreck

[@Daniel-sf4mr]

Hey Thunderbolt 1000 siren productions do you have any more British steam train wrecks? Cuz I can’t wait to see them

[@ExpressRailfan]

​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenIt's so sad that the second northbound express crashed into the wreckage. Express was my favorite service on the Caledonian Railway.

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

Edward and James decided to go home. Their Siblings were all gone.

[@westinbridges7321]

More like Siblings

[@douglasthescottishtwin3989]

James is a L&YR class 28 and Edward's a Furness Railway K2

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

@@douglasthescottishtwin3989yeah I know, I just think if those two when I see engines with similar designs.

[@DramaCarWolf]

I was on a Brittan/Scotland vacation and I went to Edenborough Castle and one of the exhibits was about Quintinshill. They had some items of some of the soldiers that survived and some burnt items that were from the accident. It was chilling to see some the same pictures of the accident that was used at an exhibit and seeing some items from it. It was honestly a haunting exhibit.

[@andybhoy1916]

As a Scott I fucking hate the way you spelled Edinburgh

[@andybhoy1916]

You don’t say it the way it’s spelled

[@DramaCarWolf]

Meh it is what it is then. Oh well 🤷‍♂️

[@ZAV1944]

I am hoping you plan on doing a video about the Abbots Ripton rail accident(The insperation for the Wreck of the Flying Kipper in the Railway Series).

[@NMCAR2006]

Thunderbolt, if you’re reading this, an idea for a crash documentary is UP 835. It crashed going too fast around a bend in 1946.

[@HomerPenguin5516]

Thats actually a good idea What speed did it go?

[@STYtrainspotter2007]

2:42 what the hell is go on with guy

[@florjanbrudar692]

It's called photoshop.

[@vincitveritas3872]

Tears every time I watch. Very well made video

[@elizabethtrudgill3567]

The reason the two signal men only served a year in prison was because of the war. There were so few men available to take the jobs the railway needed all the employees they could get.

[@gamegeek812]

Would you like a role in my upcoming fan film Thomas the Tank Engine: Origins?