Tie Dye: Liquid Versus Ice Dye [Liquid & Ice Dye]

Per viewer's requests: This video shows the results of using liquid versus ice dye - same type of tied pattern and identical dyes - with very different results.
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[@gailhuntlcswbcd686]

This was great! I had to look at the two several times to decide what I liked. Ice dye wins! It is more unique. I love how you responded to each person's question. Your answers were also very helpful. Thanks for a great video and tutorial!

[@bmbirdsong]

I've just watched two of your difference videos, which were great right up until the end. I wish you'd have finished off with a discussion of the differences, and what made the difference. Obviously both shirts are drastically different, but you assume we know why. And it doesn't help to say "one is liquid dye and the other is ice." I'm sure you have more information to share, and I'd love to hear it.

[@edwardvalentino3835]

Kind of liking the ice dyed better

[@moogie3111]

Two questions: do you reuse your sinew? You've inspired me to start using it, I'm getting really nice tight folds and better "rays", although I'm still learning how to keep it from slipping and how to tie it tight. Also, how old is your dye generally? I'm thinking you don't let it get old since you do so many pieces, but I'm wondering what I can get away with as far as older Procion dye. Thanks for all you do.. and your family is great, by the way

[@CasualCollisions]

No. I know many people save, wash, respool, etc. sinew; but, I toss it after one use. It's only $10-12 for an 800' spool of waxed artificial sinew on Amazon, so it makes more financial sense for me to toss it. You didn't say whether you're asking about the age of liquid or powdered dye. Some of the powdered dye I have is a few years old and doesn't show any different in the results compared to new dye. Liquid dye I usually don't use beyond a few days. But, as long as there's no soda ash in the liquid dye, you can refrigerate it for weeks/months and it will still work well.

[@Matty06001]

This is exactly the illustration I've been looking for. I didn't know you had made this video, glad it popped up in my feed.

[@CasualCollisions]

Glad it was helpful!

[@tommybowling6234]

To be honest I like both of them!!!!!

[@johnnythesailorman]

Whenever I do black on the other side with an ice dye it just turns the whole shirt black.

[@johncspine2787]

Did you notice that he kept the colors on top and fed the liquid dye to the bottom, which allows gravity to keep the black from traveling up? I wonder if the lines would be crisper on the ice dye if you put plastic wrap over, then flipped it the same way, ice on bottom, dye powder then shirt..

[@Tiny_Island_Designs]

I believe you might not be waiting long enough for the top colors to 'grab' before turning it over. The black will only go where there is no color set so wait and give your top colors time to set/grab.

[@Matty06001]

@@Tiny_Island_Designs the black will only go where there's no color?? Surely you know that's not correct.

[@TheFreakyOfficial]

The liquid one looks way better. But It's a matter of taste

[@bre_luv]

When you ice dye can u use the same powder that you would use to make the liquid

[@CasualCollisions]

Yes, it's the same Procion dye.

[@bre_luv]

Ok thank u

[@marliv.b.5535]

Wow ! Is realy a big different. I dont have thinked this. Thanks for example ☺

[@judysingh777]

You are very kind to share so much of your knowledge. I’ve re-learned so much from this one video. Thank you🙏🏼

[@CasualCollisions]

Thank you for watching.

[@distortedinfo]

the ice method looks expensive, you could make 3 or 4 more shirts with the amount of powder used.

[@CasualCollisions]

My average cost to produce an ice-dyed shirt is $2.60. That includes the t-shirt, dye, and water usage. That's not expensive at all.

[@johncspine2787]

I’m just starting, but, with the ice method you’re not stuck with ten containers of leftover dye that will go bad..no messing around, the only waste just runs off immediately. So..sixes on that, it just depends on the finish you want..

[@Matty06001]

I also noticed that you buy those humongous containers of powder, which are of course cheaper by the ounce. And you make so many shirts that it justifies it.

[@adamcervek3592]

@@CasualCollisions which dye do you use

[@CasualCollisions]

@@adamcervek3592 I use Procion Fiber Reactive Dyes from: www.dharmatrading.com www.customcoloursinc.com/ www.grateful-dyes.com/

[@lawifeynazario3075]

I love them both, you did a great job! Love the video as I am a beginner. Thank you 😊

[@sunshinelifeco]

Ice dyeing seems like you blow through the powder dye so fast. Cool effect but seems so expensive.

[@CasualCollisions]

To put the dye usage in perspective, the spoon I use in the videos is a baby food spoon that holds about 1/4tsp. I buy dye in one pound (or larger) bulk containers and my average cost of dye for each shirt is 50 cents. With a G200 shirt, that brings the total to about $2.75 per shirt, all in on materials.

[@sunshinelifeco]

@@CasualCollisions ok thank you that helps a lot especially coming to cost. I thought it was a lot more powder I get the 1 lb too and thought that it would skyrocket the cost per shirt.

[@watsonrefugee]

Why wouldn't you put them side by side??

[@mattysco]

So did u do 8 hours for the colour and 8 hours black?

[@goodknight37]

“Annnd off to die” 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@sandyblue4235]

Theyre both pretty but i like the liquid dye shirt better

[@ashlee1216]

Hello 😊 I'm a new subscriber and fan and need to know what brand dyes you use please ...liquid and powder. Looks amazing thank you

[@CasualCollisions]

I use Procion Fiber Reactive Dyes from: www.dharmatrading.com www.customcoloursinc.com/ www.grateful-dyes.com/ www.dyespin.com/

[@AimzFolio2]

and which one lasts longer?

[@dove1965]

I have notice some put the ice on top and some put the ice on the bottom. Is there a difference?

[@CasualCollisions]

Yes. Putting the dye directly on the surface of the fabric allows greater control of the placement of the dye. Putting the dye on top of the ice creates more organic/flowing results.

[@odzmaker]

i'm still trying to comprehend how dying the back side only with black makes the stripes on both sides, It just doesn't make sense. I must be missing something

[@odzmaker]

NM as soon as I typed that , it became clear that it's because of the Pleating ....... ignore my ignorance

[@CasualCollisions]

Correct. The "back" side isn't the back side of the shirt - it's the back side of each pleat/scrunch/etc.

[@mattysco]

hi there! When i did this - my shirt was completely soaked on the other side with dye - its not white like yours. I wanted to do a black ice back but the back was covered in dye and sort mudded up. I had it on a grid so it wasnt supposed to be a mud back but i guess naturally dyes combined on the bottom. How can i use ice but not have it soak right through so i can then do an black ice back?

[@michellestewart8273]

Hi can you tell me what brand dyes you use??? Thanks!!!!

[@CasualCollisions]

I use Procion Fiber Reactive Dyes from Dharma Trading and Custom Colours: www.dharmatrading.com www.customcoloursinc.com/

[@wendycarr3167]

The ice dye looks wayyyyy better

[@CasualCollisions]

100% agree.

[@sandyblue4235]

You didnt turn overthe liquid dye shirt just put it in foil abd poured the black dye?arond it?

[@CasualCollisions]

Yes, that's correct. If I want a field of black (or other color) - I just submerge everything in that colors. As long as proper time was given to the initial colors on the "front", it will only bond to the areas that don't currently have dye.

[@sandyblue4235]

Oh ok that make sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me

[@vermontmom4232]

How long can you let your soda ash water sit for before it is bad? And can you re-use your soda ash water? Meaning store it, then re-use it... Anyone that knows is free to answer, it would be greatly appreciated. Tie dying is a whole new world to me. LOL Thanks all...

[@CasualCollisions]

Forever. No, really - forever. Arguably, I've had the same bucket of soda ash solution for over five years. I just add water and soda ash as needed to bring the water level up and keep it "slippery" so that the pH/soda ash concentration is roughly correct. I throw items into it, pull them out, wring them out, toss into the washing machine to spin out, and carry on. I've even had some items in the same bucket of soda ash for *years* before they're pulled out to be used. As long as the item doesn't have metal (zipper, grommets, etc.), there's no issue.

[@tessloneill7978]

I think it depends on your purpose. I believe if I am tie dying a Christmas tshirt using just red and green dye, it would be better to not use ice. I am just assuming since I haven’t done a tie dye shirt YET.

[@CasualCollisions]

Interesting timing. I finished a shirt yesterday that's a Christmas shirt that uses four red dyes and four green dyes and it's all ice dyed. The video for that shirt will be published on December 19th -- just in time for Christmas.

[@no_peace]

I keep missing it... Was the liquid black thickened? It looks rad

[@CasualCollisions]

Yes, the black is thickened dye.

[@landomontuvik8066]

I would like to sell tye dye Nike socks and shirts but looking for the best quality results at a affordable price so I can get the most of it, would liquid be cheaper to use than powder? And what brand do you recommend boss? Thanks in advance

[@CasualCollisions]

In general, liquid is less expensive. I use Procion Fiber Reactive Dyes: www.dharmatrading.com www.customcoloursinc.com/ www.grateful-dyes.com/

[@landomontuvik8066]

Casual Collisions but would I still have same results as ice method? Or would results be the same just use the SodaAsh method with it as well?

[@mjn55128]

I like the liquid one better...gonna try this. About how many ounces of liquid black did you use?

[@CasualCollisions]

For thickened dye for top coats/lines, I usually mix up 4 ounces. For thickened or regular dye for the shirt to soak in, I usually mix up 16 ounces.

[@teppi5119]

Thank you!

[@carolinarobledoflores4435]

Its the same dye the only difference its the liquit puts watter before??

[@CasualCollisions]

Yes. Liquid dye versus ice dye.

[@johannesege3914]

Which colors do you use? And where can i buy these colors?

[@CasualCollisions]

I use Procion dyes from Dharma: www.dharmatrading.com/dyes/dharma-fiber-reactive-procion-dyes.html The dye colors that are used for each design are listed at the beginning of the dye stage and if it's an ice dye video, the lid (showing the dye color name) is visible in the video during the ice dyeing stage. In this specific video, the lids are shown beginning at 6:35.

[@bonniepiehler693]

The only color I couldn't see the name of was the purple, was it lilac? @@CasualCollisions

[@raquing2858]

Sorry, but do you need to rinse the shirt after soaking it in soda ash?... Thank you!

[@CasualCollisions]

No. If you rinse the soda ash out before dyeing, the procion dye will not bond to the fabric.

[@raquing2858]

@@CasualCollisions thank you! 😊

[@ultraviolet663]

Ice Dye.

[@deborahhardeman8802]

I noticed you just put liquid black around the outer side! Why

[@CasualCollisions]

Because I prefer the contrast that occurs with the black.

[@christinabartley7135]

Love your videos!! 💛💚💙💜🖤 Is it possible to do like a (centerline down the middle) half black half tie dye ?

[@CasualCollisions]

A hard, defined edge is difficult; but, the overall design is relatively simple. I've added it to the list of requests and since I'm currently in the video-creating part of my routine, I'll try to have it published within the next couple of weeks.

[@CasualCollisions]

Here ya' go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqLNpKt3e6qnZ5Y

[@ariesmelissa]

Omg you're a wizard! I love it! My favorite is the liquid verson! What is soda ash?

[@CasualCollisions]

Soda ash is sodium carbonate. Note: This is not the same thing as sodium bicarbonate which is also known as baking soda. Soda ash is typically available in the laundry section of most grocery stores as Arm & Hammer's Super Washing Soda or in pool supply stores. Here's an Amazon link to give you an idea of what to look for: amzn.to/3gVcFB7

[@ariesmelissa]

@@CasualCollisions thanks!

[@jesserabel6419]

What do you mix with the water when you do liquid? I just ordered my first batch of dharma powders.

[@CasualCollisions]

I use de-ionized water and the dye only. No other additives. If you don't have de-ionized available, distilled or a good water filter would be recommended over tap as tap will have chlorine/chloramine.

[@jesserabel6419]

@@CasualCollisions thank you very much. I saw a video where a guy added some chemicals that were also dharma brand to the water before mixing with dye. How much do you sell your art for?

[@CasualCollisions]

@@jesserabel6419 - The "chemicals" were either soda ash or urea. If you're in a humid environment, urea isn't required as it's a wetting agent. If you're in a low humidity environment, you may benefit from adding urea to your liquid dyes. I sell the shirts for $24.00 on Etsy.

[@erins.5420]

Do you have a cat purring in the background?

[@CasualCollisions]

I don't have a cat; so, probably not. It might be the a/c.

[@amberharmon3522]

Idk how much powder it takes to mix the liquids, but it seems like you use a lot to ice dye. Is that a true statement?

[@CasualCollisions]

Yes, more dye is used for the ice dyes. However, since I prefer the look of the ice dyes and the total average cost per XL shirt is $2.76 (that includes the t-shirt, dye, and water), it's well worth the extra dye usage for the results.

[@amberharmon3522]

@@CasualCollisions it is all about preference. Thanks for answering back.

[@reflectionshairdesign8027]

What’s Soda Ash ?

[@reflectionshairdesign8027]

My son and I have watched a lot of people tie dye and you are the BEST you colour combinations and attention to detail is a stand out . Thank you for sharing your talent here in Australia 🇦🇺

[@CasualCollisions]

Soda Ash is sodium carbonate. It's readily available in the laundry aisle of most grocery stores as "Super Washing Soda". You can see it at: www.acehardware.com/departments/home-and-decor/laundry-care/detergent-and-fabric-softeners/1380013

[@CasualCollisions]

Thank you. I appreciate the feedback and hope you continue to enjoy the videos.

[@mandoman69]

Is this as easy as it looks or damni gona mess up a couple shirts before I get that amaixingbice dye patern

[@CasualCollisions]

It's not difficult; but, as with most things, it does take practice before you develop the techniques and learn the amount of dye/ice/water that works best for your style.

[@mandoman69]

@@CasualCollisions im oredering a bunch of dyes to have a ice dying day with my fam, thanx for your videos

[@megonelizabeth]

Do you always need drainage when ice dying?

[@CasualCollisions]

Not if you go with muck dyeing.

[@samanthas2180]

Can I ice dye a synthetic material (Lycra)?

[@CasualCollisions]

No. For synthetic material, you need to use an acid dye.

[@sandyblue4235]

Which dharma dyes are you using?

[@CasualCollisions]

Procion Fiber Reactive Dyes They're also available from: www.customcoloursinc.com/ www.grateful-dyes.com/

[@bre_luv]

And loving the ice dye

[@mandrakethecat]

Could you uses ice dye and just to the foil and liquid black to get less black?

[@CasualCollisions]

I'm assuming you were asking if you can just let the ice dye melt into the foil tray and not add liquid black? If so, yes - you can dye this "in the muck".

[@mandrakethecat]

@@CasualCollisions yes, but could I also add black liquid dye to the muck?

[@CasualCollisions]

@@mandrakethecat - Yes, you can do that.

[@mandrakethecat]

@@CasualCollisions thank you

[@jesserabel6419]

And where do you order your shirts from?

[@CasualCollisions]

www.JiffyShirts.com I would be wary of the Gildan G200 shirts as they are now the "improved" version that has the silver tag versus the old white tag. The silver tag version does not absorb dye evenly and there are odd cut/sewing issues with the fabric. I've been happy with the SoftStyle and Hammer, though.

[@HolyPlague1]

Do you use a color stay after dying?

[@CasualCollisions]

No. The soda ash soak is all that's need to bond the dye to the fabric.

[@HolyPlague1]

Casual Collisions perfect. Thank you so much.

[@janrito23]

Is it also ok to dip it with vinegar

[@CasualCollisions]

Vinegar instead of soda ash? You can; but, won't work as well as soda ash unless it's heated.

[@janrito23]

Ok thnx