Dote - An Example of Selective "Diversity"

[@talyagelfand7934]

I also think theres this stigma of being "the angry black woman" which keeps a lot of black women from speaking out when they are treated unfairly

[@daniella3116]

Defo , even speaking from experience , sometimes I'll even say things in a very calm manner or just get upset and people will literally be like oh her African side is coming out like bro wtf ? But then when my caucasian friends get angry its normal and they're just “going through a lot “

[@sentofarrel7147]

The other girl literally said she felt aggressive. She was scared to come out as "angry"

[@daniella3116]

Sento Farrel yes I think it’s very normal because of the whole “ angry black girl “ stereotype

[@talyagelfand7934]

@@kimjunjae well personally I can say that I grew up in the Bronx where there is a ton of diversity. I find that there are different types of personalities and people no matter the skin color. My school was majority black and hispanic with a few white kids. Some black, hispanic and white kids were/are aggressive and some are not. Aggressive people you will notice more often around you because of their nature. It has nothing to do with race

[@user-kp3ks7dk5h]

Maybe keep in mind compared to white girls, black girls and really girls of color have a lot to be angry about and maybe that’s why you rarely see any angry white girls.

[@sabrina3029]

There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between ‘sorry you felt uncomfortable’ and ‘sorry I MADE you feel uncomfortable’. The latter being an acknowledgement of some responsibility for the situation.

[@caramelcutieee2298]

Exactly what I was thinking... It just seems like you're apologising FOR them; not TO them. If that makes sense lol

[@ninarossi1630]

I read this and legit said periodt out loud, you worded this so perfectly

[@blendingwitch6206]

Precisely!!

[@nailahc.8615]

peridot😤❤️

[@moonchild3028]

Fr they really said “sorry you feel that way” which is very manipulative and not really sincere.

[@maddiemcnugget1076]

Dote: I miss the 1960s People: yeah it had a nice aesthetic. Dote: nah I mean the segregation part

[@lsjaowhwbkwhwksha5926]

LMAOOOO

[@nailahc.8615]

underrated comment 💀

[@darlenedaneri6750]

JAJAAJJAA

[@sadiethecleaninglady919]

Too soon... Too soon.... But still funny

[@cheesecake2048]

I had to laugh 😂

[@alinavaysfligel7249]

oh jesus. highschool cliques have moved to the internet and now it's international.

[@emmajean4648]

as bowling for soup said... high school never ends. my friend circle is small now bc of this

[@mrmaniac3]

Well... it’s not the end of the world. At least, not this particular thing. There’s many things that are the end of the world.

[@yandhi_6382]

Highschool cliques were always apparent in movies, that's where the "quirky" trend comes from. It's just broadcasted on a different platform.

[@pellaw8011]

I know this isn’t relevant but your name is so pretty!

[@alinavaysfligel7249]

percytheblueturtle aww thank you!! it took me many years to learn to appreciate it

[@Piperonis]

They literally gave the white girls beds and the black girls couches in segregated rooms. I cant believe this

[@dorianbailey7314]

Chris Robson yup, still racist

[@gabiii-739]

Piper Reid not just black girls, the POC there. vereena is egyptian

[@paintitpeachydontforgetthe539]

Piper Reid I thought segregation dies in the late 60s early 70s

[@CamJames]

@Frost Flower And there's still segregation enforced by law, just not directly.

[@pinkiepinkie6865]

Gabi II-// still though

[@alexangel4758]

What’s sad is that none of the white dote girls called Dote out or protested the company for lack of diversity and segregating them

[@Frichickenistaa]

It’s sad that none of those other girls could have said “I want one of these new girls to be in my room with me so we can get to know her.” It’s that easy to be friendly

[@ruecld]

500th like

[@blikthecat9780]

they are private company, so they can advertise themselves like they want. 80% of us citizens are white, so wheres the problem? thats their target group. It's a free country, if u don't like them don't buy from them, but don't deny their rights to make their own decisions.

[@Esther-nd1tg]

@@blikthecat9780 it is not abt buying from them and because "80" percent of "your" citizens doesn't mean it should be a repetitive thing ( it's acc 73% but whatever), you are basically backing this company into racism and if they really wanted to target ppl in 2020 they would add a more diverse culture , you say we deny their rights of making decisions but the minority groups are denied of rights everywhere or to have thoughts or practices of making their own decisions so don't you ever say that in your life without backing up your claims with facts

[@zurzakne-etra7069]

and only spoke about how "hurt" they were after the company was exposed like this smh, ignorance is so damaging

[@joefernandez8008]

Internet: “dote is racist.” Me: “that is awful!...........what is dote?”

[@briannaharper8901]

😂🤣👏😭💀.

[@shimeih2287]

True.. I didn't even know about dote until I googled it halfway through the video 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bellajaid]

@@shimeih2287 You put more effort in than I did. Her description at the beginning is all I care to know.

[@shimeih2287]

@@bellajaid haha... 😂😂

[@quirkyjerseygirl9584]

I felt the same way.

[@amypennebacker4941]

I've never heard of Dote before. I'm okay with that.

[@Naharu.]

Neither.

[@SkittyBlackfire]

+1

[@JaiK64]

Me either

[@natriac.6092]

I thought they were just all Instagram addicts.

[@JaiK64]

@RayS2able i think you're under the wrong comment section lol

[@tiddy7311]

97% white, 2% black, 0% asian/ hispanic/ middle eastern/ indian/ etc. *YAY **_DIVERSITY_*

[@arxsaur]

aren't inidans as same as asians?

[@abradolfhonkler9287]

​@@arxsaur Central Asians, South Asians and East Asians are each their own separate ethnic groups. Then there's Western Asians, which is pretty much the same as Middle Easterners but without Egypt, which is also African, and Caucasia. These things have gotten pretty complicated. Don't even get me started on "Caucasians," I still refuse to consider the Spanish, Dutch, Irish and Scandinavians as one race but I guess I'm old-fashioned like that.

[@katsaidthat]

That's only 99%

[@delectablemimi]

@@abradolfhonkler9287 well there are only 3 or 4 races and everyone else is a subcatergory

[@arxsaur]

Abradolf Honkler ohh ok thanks, i agree with caucasians part

[@--hEaVeN-cn4gx]

No one is talking that the "dote girls" even got skateboards with their names on it and the ones of color didn't... That makes me sad :''(

[@daniellemhall1358]

1-800-hEaVeN WHAAAT??? That means they didn't consider them at all! Jeeez.

[@shellkathleen2253]

Omg

[@isbacarrotanimations3666]

Is this how rumors are started?

[@lizeth-6612]

Danielle M Hall it makes me angry to think they did but thought they didn’t even deserve them ughhh :(

[@wendyallen9089]

Lmao did this actually happen? Where's the source or time stamp

[@joydensjustwatching]

As a black woman I need to say this: Didn't we fight a long-ass civil war because we didn't like segregation? How is it that years later, they now think we have forgotten? That it's okay now? It will never be okay. Every race is beautiful. *EVERY* race.

[@onthewattle]

You are right, but the American Civil War was fought to abolish slavery. Segregation wasn’t abolished till 1954

[@oofnugget_weeb9212]

@@onthewattle The definition of segregation still applies during those times.

[@ruledbyvenus2041]

Segregation still exist today, you just watched an example of it in this video lol

[@cristinahughes4930]

@Glasses Guru I do agree with u however, we did not fight a civil war bc we didn’t like segregation we fought it bc the south didnt like who was representing the country.

[@cristinahughes4930]

Elmer Adkins it was fought bc of political reasons not bc of slavery

[@parislondon163]

this is what being a good ally to women of color looks like. thank you.

[@notfunny1410]

dani riddle, yeahhh cause world war 3 is here and poc are getting attacked left and right smh

[@kittiest4r187]

@@notfunny1410 your username shows my mood right now

[@notfunny1410]

Sunflower Gacha, exactly it's how i feel about many things but having "allies" is one of the most bs things I've heard.

[@jfm14]

@Tech x Since when does caring about other people and speaking up for what you believe is right make one a "far leftist SJW"? Where is the logic in that line of thinking? 😂

[@12myea]

@Natalie Phoebe Callum shut up natalie

[@kimpacheco7560]

The 'Why didn't you speak up before' question can be so idiotic. When something awkward, uncomfortable or humiliating happens, we tend to question our perception of reality, or just justify it by convincing ourselves is not a big deal. But when you see other people had the same experience, you realize that 'it wasn't just you', but it did happen, and it is a big deal. And I think we can all think about a moment or situation in our lives when this happened to ourselves.

[@plumpy_space_princess]

Oh, my God. I love the way you wrote this. 😢 I was sexually harassed at my last job and my boss had the audacity (more like stupidity) to ask me why I waited a week to report what had happened. Thank you ❤

[@modelstatus3456]

Elsie V. I'm really sorry this happened to you:( stay strong! I'm proud of you for speaking up!

[@plumpy_space_princess]

@@modelstatus3456 thank you for your kind words ❤🤗

[@MeJustAimy]

So much this! I still wish I could realise the emotional abuse I got from my ex wasn’t my fault ugh

[@anony1596]

You articulated this so well. I wish I could put this on a billboard lol

[@xVanillaxBerryx]

I've never heard of Dote before and I'm glad I never did

[@seaglass7375]

Same. Also this group of girls was not even in my radar, first time I heard about them.

[@cherryen7217]

I've never heard of dote or dote girls before I saw this video

[@fairycat23]

Lol same. I've never heard of Dote or Dote girls before. I _might_ have heard of Emma Chamberlain before, but I might be confusing her with someone else, and whoever it is I'm thinking of, I barely pay attention to her.

[@bethanyshifflett8490]

Before Dote was called for their ignorance and racism, they would get thousands and thousands of likes on Instagram. Now they barely get 400. I’m so glad people were able to speak their minds on an issue so pressing and there be an effect. Usually companies just bounce back from these things.

[@shanouboubou]

Good. It means things are changing.

[@missimperfectlyfine7]

great. now we need this for many more things.

[@delina9735]

@@R4TGIRL i searched their instagram i think they're letsdote ?? idrk tho

[@alicem1961]

I think they deleted it 😁finally, it was a useless app anyway

[@trk1221]

The couches versus bed thing..... ooooh boy, I was fuming

[@ee8546]

I'm so triggered about that I could go on a 2 hour rant 🤬

[@urbestamericanboy6457]

Same omg I'm acc so triggered rn

[@useroffline9999]

Saaaame

[@daniellemhall1358]

Yeah I don't think it would have been so hard to get a few more single or bunk beds. There's something really sketchy about that.

[@mrmaniac3]

Not gonna lie I’d sleep on those couches Like what’s wrong with a couch Yeah I know, not the point, but still I’d sleep on that couch

[@maris7250]

Am i the only one who had never heard of “dote” before this video? Lol

[@Dolphinhi2]

yeah i dont follow that crowd of vloggers so i've never heard of it lmao

[@pinkimietz3243]

I still don't understand what dote is. And why we need it.

[@CookiesTriedToEatMe]

I honestly hadn’t heard of boat until this whole debacle began, and I have yet to even check them out on the iTunes Store much less because I don’t follow any of the bloggers they pander to.

[@buffytheinternetbullyslayer]

Never heard of them. I still don't fully understand who/what/why they are...

[@avapetrunic9473]

Same

[@stephr.l3415]

The thin white LA quirky teen epidemic has gone on for far too long, we WANT and NEED variety.

[@crybabyashley86]

Daniela Rejas García then you have problems and are racist asf. there’s no ‘grey’ area when it comes to race, you’re racist or you’re not. the funny thing is, i know for a fact that you couldn’t say shit like this in front of a POC without fear and instead you say it in comments because you just arent that brave sis😘 have a blessed day.

[@dragoney6203]

Yes thank you it gets annoying and all these teens say "OmG So ReLaTaBlE ItS NOT LiKe I'm WaTcHiNg BeCaUsE YoUr TrEnDy AND We ArE PoOr aNd woNt hAve YoUr LiFe"

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@@w_h_a_t that's the spirit😂😂

[@isbacarrotanimations3666]

WHAT👏IS👏WRONG👏WITH👏BEING👏THIN👏 Seriously, thin people are constantly made fun of for not being "hot" or "curvy" enough. Why do you feel the need to bring up their body type. Peace out.

[@stephr.l3415]

IsbaCarrot Animations Nothing wrong with being thin. But that’s obviously not the only type of body. I believe there should be an inclusivity of all types of body, and not just thin. Thin bodies have primarily always had their inclusivity, and have been viewed as the norm.

[@aleigha_mm]

It’s so boring just seeing the same color 24/7. White people are beautiful yes. So are Africans, Asians, Latinos, etc. This world is filled with beautiful races and cultures, we need to show them more ♥️ edit: I’m so sorry for using the wrong terms :(( thank you guys for telling me though❤️ I hope you still understand what I meant :((

[@og-greenmachine8623]

I’m cool with just black girls and white girls They’re both super hot😍

[@daivelylopez7062]

I agree with you. Posdata: Mexico is a country of Latin America which means that it isn't the whole hispanic community.

[@Em0lga]

@@daivelylopez7062 yeah like, they throw 'africans', 'asians', all people who were born in huge ass continents... and then they just refer to Mexico ignoring all south america yikess

[@daivelylopez7062]

@@Em0lga Also forgetting the Caribbean (Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Cuba, etc.)...another thing to point out is that America is a continent, not USA...

[@rosie5348]

@hey hey shin chan they mean caucasoid which is the race, but just to clarify, caucasoid doesn’t always mean white, Indians and semites are caucasoid but they are not white.

[@paremour]

I love that you didn’t speak for them, you played their clips and let them tell their stories. It might seem small, but it’s just really cool. I love how honest you are in all your videos! I love love love your channel!! Thank you for making such amazing content ❤️

[@Chihiro99685]

She is amazing she has opened my eyes on many things

[@edmurrow3039]

@A Matan Dote is not a charity. Dote is not an NPO. Dote is a for-profit company started by a white woman who partnered with Urban, Brandy, UNIF etc. to make sales through its portal. These are mostly middle class brands supported in the USA primarily by white girls. Customers create accounts, then can have followers. Dote came up with the brilliant idea to partner with KZbinrs and offer coupon codes for followed accounts. Dote struck gold with Emma, Ellie, Hannah, Summer, Marla promoting Dote and then vlogging fun videos of their trips. Because they were all white, those girls and Dote started getting hate after Coachella 2018 because Dote was accused of just picking white girls. So for Fiji Dote gave all its followed accounts a follow number to hit to be invited. Non-white girls didn't hit those numbers, so Dote actually screwed over white girls who made the count so Kianna and a few other non-white girls could go in order to appease the scream of mandatory diversity. Kianna admitted this. The white girls on the lower follow end have always received less attention in photoshoots and bedrooms. Emma, Ellie, Hannah and their IGs and thus accounts were printing money for Dote. White girls with higher follow and sales revenue were again passed over for Coachella 2019 so more non-white girls could go. That large room with couches had been designated for anyone regardless of color as of course Dote was going to reward Ellie, Hannah, Ava, Summer for actually making money for Dote, but the non-white girls who didn't actually promote Dote screamed racism while accepting their FREE $1000 trip with food, tickets, accessories etc.

[@pinkqueenscookie]

Ed Murrow Companies should promote equality. Sorry if black people have the power to ruin your image then it obviously matters 😂 It’s not a charity therefore they need to do GOOD marketing and that equates to diversity. So even if they didn’t give a shit about equality they have to. Honestly it doesn’t matter if shit is free if you see other people are treated better and everything is segregated. That’s awkward AF. So by your logic rich, privileged kids should never ever complain about when they get robbed or anything that doesn’t physically harm them because ‘shut up you have money’

[@queenash96]

@@edmurrow3039 you're probably one of those dumbasses that would say "AT LEAST YOU GOT PROMOTED". If they wanted to attract white girls then dont invite pocs and treat them like shit period. Thats just dumb marketing because they are the same pocs influencers that dote is paying them to PROMOTE their store to their audience...and if they are treated like shit, they are gonna tell their audience and those same white girls are gonna hear then they wont support dote. Its fucking business. Or are u hoping they send your lowkey racist ass to fiji and "dochella". You say other white girls deserve to go because of "numbers" but they invited pocs for diversity right? If they wanted force diversity THEN WHY TREAT THEM LIKE SHIT? Why not...idk TREATED THEM LIKE THE OTHER. Are you that dumb to understand the issue? if they are arent the main targets? Then why invite them? If its for diversity then WHY TREAT THEM LIKE THAT?

[@queenash96]

@@pinkqueenscookie exactly. Like people sound so dumb defending shit like this

[@bellylaird9339]

not to mention the lack of asian representation, latina representation, middle eastern representation, pacific islander representation, first nation/Native American representation, and queer representation within the "diverse groups." As well as many other people not being represented (girls with body types other than tall and thin, girls with disabilities, and so much more).

[@ee8546]

Exactly, as a Black girl, I agree that just putting in a couple Black girls doesn't cut it or make it diverse, it's just one other race and that's all they did. Through this entire thing I have only heard about 1 Asian and that's a HUGE problem.

[@sugaredoleander409]

As a lesbian, I can't even imagine what LGBTQ representiation in this context would look like. I mean, irl, I gotta go such an extra mile to be "one of the girls" (listen, if all my straight friends are not coming to me to ask for makeup, hair, style, skincare, diet, whatever tips, I have failed.) Otherwise I'm "the other." This othering is so prevalent and casual that I can't even properly imagine how that would function in a group that is so obviously built on a very archaic notion of womanhood.

[@lillililli1726]

EXACTLY 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@plazy._.8094]

Oh god....if they got a lesbian on the team they would have her with rainbow stuff all the time just to show they're "diverse." Like sometimes that's okay, but I feel like they'd make her "the gay one"

[@Momosaymkay]

Thank you! I couldn’t believe their “diversity” trip was all black girls and one Asian girl. Like how is that diverse? There are plenty of other influencers that could have been included.

[@lania0637]

The best thing is that she didn’t try to speak for the black girls, but that this video is basically a compilation of what they‘re saying with her adding in info to make it understandable, and I love that

[@bpeoples4043]

Wow, I'm officially old. Have no idea what dote is or who any of those people are except casually hearing the name Emma Chamberlin before. 25 is the new 50

[@Vaishnavi-sq4tx]

B Peoples don’t worry lmao I’m 16 and I’m so confused on who any of these ppl are

[@KatieNicolexx]

Girl same.

[@Laura-wj8ti]

It’s ok sis I’m around the same age as those dote girls but I live under a rock apparently

[@tarahrouda2881]

I'm 17 no idea what dote is

[@davidkonevky7372]

13 and don't know a thing

[@Nosferotika]

The bed thing... im MAD.

[@rafaellasoares27]

Amada, você por aqui

[@sarasampaiio]

Carreira internacional

[@Dvgteeth]

Right?? How did they think they’d get away with that 😬😬😬

[@isaacmulisa]

Ikr it's just so annoying

[@walterl322]

It gives me servant quarter vibes... it’s super angering...

[@comfortagunbiade2094]

The fact that it's a white woman backing up POCs, acknowledging that there's a problem and standing up for these girls is amazing. Bless your heart boo ❤️❤️

[@Chris-ox8lq]

Comfort Agunbiade normally people say “you’re white,don’t talk about topic you don’t know” so I’m kind of surprised of how people embrace this kind hearted act of her

[@averontreadwell5582]

Comfort Agunbiade I agree can someone start taking photos of the production team of such a badly behaved company the photographers stylists makeup artists etc we need to see who these perps are plus i know the ladies are very young but they need to be brave and start asking all involved why they support this diabolical treatment including the white privileged ladies film their excuses so we can make our own mind up instead of this worn out i don’t think the privileged ladies were guilty they didn’t know what was going on line after all to be oblivious in such a situation is a privilege which is power power to do the right thing

[@alexac297]

these ‘relatable’ white girls remind me of the girls who were rude to me all through out high school lol

[@AllieBee00]

Facts

[@fvial2309]

alexa cooper facts

[@mrmaniac3]

Oof I guess

[@liliebilie]

I had a few friends like that in high school (I'm not white btw) and I could only handle them for short periods of time 😂

[@Skyelilith]

Same

[@NigeriaSimone]

When white people ask what they can do about racism... THIS! This is what you can do. Speak up! Thanks for making this video.

[@gortus]

Nigeria Simone sorry if this is a bad place to ask, but you seem like a good person to ask, lol. So I’m white and I live in a pretty diverse area of Canada. There is very, very, very little racism other than the odd group of old guys sitting at the back of the restaurant. Though I live in such area, I still want to do something about it. I want to do something about racism but I don’t want to seem like I’m speaking over POC or trying to seem better, in some way. I don’t want to seem like a better person, I wanna do something about racism. Basically, I want to know what somebody would want me to do about racism. Thank you for your time!

[@shantellakaladypersephone8671]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Agreed

[@NigeriaSimone]

@graham cockroach - what Rob said. There’s no need to go above and beyond. Just be aware of your surroundings and speak up if you see something racist happening

[@marineraffanel2476]

Stop buying kill the brand that s what they should do

[@crg1292]

Not only is she speaking up, but also lending her platform for first hand experiences of racisms, shes not talking over these girls, shes helping get their voices towards a more white audience

[@re-mo3jq]

It’s weird of how we see bodies. It’s literally just flesh to keep our brains in. We narrowed our standards down to the point we’re judging the way we’re born. Human’s aesthetics r weird man.

[@alayna9702]

re wow you just blew my mind 👏🏻👏🏻

[@lilacgrace6025]

They really are. We've made being human hella complicated

[@simnikiwehlatshaneni6765]

Wooooah so meta. Such high brow observation. Much perspective

[@crystalcu2819]

Talia Moreau That isn’t racism. It’s more prejudice.

[@ryvr.]

omg ikr????!?!

[@iceylatte2027]

love that you used actual clips of the girls talking about their experience instead of trying to explain it all yourself. that matters. thanks for being a great ally!

[@neeneeesweet]

diversity isn't throwing a couple black girls into a group, diversity is people of all cultures and backgrounds and sexualities together. I'm a black girl and I want to see more middle eastern girls in the media bc middle eastern girls are gorgeous and their culture is unique. I wanna see some Asian women, trans women, lesbians, bisexual girls and all that. I want to see MORE

[@neeneeesweet]

also native American women!

[@yeetrootthebeetroot3872]

Thank youu I’m Iraqi and I’ve never really heard that about us before. No one seems to like us lmao

[@zziaoe6940]

Yeetroot the Beetroot same here 🇮🇶 no one ever mentions us lol

[@crazymonkey4175]

Citrus Shadow but isn’t it strange that there aren’t many middle eastern women/men represented? there are a lot of middle eastern people that would definitely be qualified for whatever, y’know?

[@fmars2317]

Can we get to see some redheads cause we feel left out so much. Also I wanna see the blue and purple people out there!

[@Kim-kf2jp]

the way kianna was treated on that Fiji trip (especially by the photographers) made me LIVID.

[@edmurrow3039]

Kianna is a crybaby pulling the race card. She got a free 10K trip then cried about it. The other low followed white girls understood this was a business trip and would not have the best rooms or photoshoots and so enjoyed their free Dote trip.

[@Kim-kf2jp]

@@edmurrow3039 the whole point of the trip was to take pictures and ADVERTISE the BRAND. it wasn't a free vacation lol. if it were just a vacation (where the company gets no exposure and thus no money back), what's the point in spending money on extra girls? your argument makes no sense from a cost standpoint. the WOC on the trip were ignored point blank period.

[@artbykuhoo]

YESSS - I've been in the same situation. and it's so odd - because people will say - oh you're exotic, and I wish i was as TAN as you - but then we get no attention. And it feels mean and it makes you think something is wrong with you. And all those photographers seem racist - even if they claim they aren't.

[@gabbysatin6197]

Ed Murrow She literally said she felt scared to talk about it because of exactly what you said that people will call her ungrateful

[@sareerangel3939]

Ed Murrow firs off hop of kiana. She said exactly how she felt. Disrespectful as fuck.

[@nanananana1.0]

okey am i the only one weirded out about the fact that a company takes girls that could be underage to film them in bikinis??

[@olivechandran214]

yeah...that is weird...

[@sophievankampen5331]

And that their parents agreed to it

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

@@sophievankampen5331 For money. Isn't that prostituting?

[@sophievankampen5331]

@@sixthsenseamelia4695 i’m pretty sure it is

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

Advertising & selling your body for pecuniary gain. Twerking in revealing swimwear is soft po®n. Groups of girls romping almost buck naked is se×ualised. Why don't they show girls dressed in cover alls building a house or climbing mountains wearing alpine snow gear. Diversity my arse, it's a harem of nubile vi®gns.

[@yonnie11594]

This dote trip was my whole high school experience.

[@MissBelle127]

yonnie11594 same :/

[@prettycrystalt1537]

Basically

[@mish255]

Damn fr I feel so left out

[@hairbeauty8083]

Exactly.

[@sarahfield3957]

same

[@CupOfTae_SugaKookies_Sprite]

F-I-N-A-L-L-Y. An actual white person who isn't afraid or uncomfortable talking about what needs to be talked about. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@angelhellokitti]

Jeremy Jones wdym their guilt?

[@smritiivaturi8391]

ARMYYYYYY

[@mariamishalal]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@theroamingsavage8813]

Gee what guilt could white ppl POSSIBLY have concerning ppl of color??? Lol

[@crazymonkey4175]

Alejandro S uh, why should non racist white people feel guilty?

[@witchplease9695]

Really wish more white women had your mindset and were supportive of women of color. Thank you for speaking.

[@ashleymarie4062]

All people are beautiful with the exception of those who try to belittle, knock down, hurt others, or think they're better because someones not exactly how you are.

[@negg7046]

As an Asian Dote needs to back the hell up. I have somewhat an irrational fear of blonde girls (not brunettes because I am a dark haired brunette myself) and things like these are the reason why. In my home room class last year there was this group of these basic white girls like this. It just made me feel so uncomfortable as a female. The guys’ personalities were pretty lousy too so they were hard to befriend. Doesn’t have to do with Dote, just an uncomfortable personal experience. Luckily my guy best friend was in class and we were able to become a lot closer that year.

[@Emma-vu3hx]

witch, please Most white women do have this mindset, but not everyone wants to go around talking about something they aren’t responsible for.

[@LpsFlare]

@@negg7046 i am so sorry for girls like these. im a blonde girl and it literally sickens me to the core that others can treat people like dirt just because of something they cannot control. the girls that judge others the way the dote girls are truly the bad people in these situation. i hope you have an amazing day

[@lotussight]

@@Emma-vu3hx so if you aremt responsible for a rape that happened in your town, you're not going to speak up about it and try to demand for justice? Just gonna... sit there and do nothing? Not even talk to people about it or try to help the family or the victim get justice? Coz it's a small action you know... talking.

[@elainelamoureux9645]

Honestly as an asian, when I walk into a new environment now and I don’t know anyone, I feel so much more welcome and comfortable sticking with girls of colour. It sounds really dividing and discriminatory but the overwhelming majority of racism I’ve gotten was from white people who I trusted and thought were my friends, so I put two and two together and that’s just where I’m at now. I don’t feel like hurting my feelings just so I can give everyone an equal opportunity, I also deserve to care for myself and protect myself. One of my closest friends is white but she didn’t hang out with solely white people, I haven’t gone into a single group of only white people where I haven’t eventually been told something hurtful or had someone’s parents say/call me something racist. I can usually trust that other coloured girls have been through similar experiences and are there for me, because racism really effects you, it makes you feel insecure and less than perfect, and that’s not something young people or any people for that matter should go through.

[@neomu-multi]

Elaine Lamoureux that’s actually me, as a black african girl, if i walk into a new environment i just automatically try to befriend with minorities. it’s not that i think all white people are racist it’s just that they seem to click so easily and some of ‘em unconsciously (or intentionally) group among themselves and don’t even try to include/acknowledge us. so yeah, i mostly stick with minorities because i know what it feels to be left out, and i do know the feeling of being in a place and being completely ignored or straight up mistreated just because of my physique. it doesn’t mean that we hate white people, it’s just that some of us had to deal with some of their worst types for so many times that we prefer to not take the risk.

[@elainelamoureux9645]

multi fandomized exactlyyyy! I felt that

[@daniela4850]

Yes me too! i’m mexican and sure i’ve met white people who are kind but the vast majority of whites have said racist things towards mexicans, blacks, asians, nativ americans, etc. It irks me because they justify their words by saying oh it’s a joke. ive been called “wet backs” and “illegal” despite that fact that i was born in the united states. i’m just more comfortable around people of color who have gone through similar experiences just makes me feel more included.

[@roxstar1315]

I completely understand why u do this, and i know I would do the same to if I wasn’t white. 💔

[@roxstar1315]

meant “❤️”

[@whataprilreads]

Tiffany, I’m not sure if you see all your comments or not but if you do see this: thank you. There are countless people claiming to be an ally to people of color, and specifically black girls, but only out of fear of being racist. Your true depth and ability to check your privilege is refreshing. I appreciate your efforts to make sure that voices were heard. Keep it up, I love seeing your videos in my feed.

[@monalisa9636]

Why do we black people need an ally? We don’t need whites to validate our struggle. Many just exploit it to be the “ white savior.” It sounds like young black women out more weight behind a white person doing something for them.

[@jeseniac8277]

Mona Lisa because change doesn’t just happen when only the people affected use their voices, change happens when the people not impacted stands up and uses their voices as well.💙 and that goes for any injustice

[@whataprilreads]

@@monalisa9636 To put it as simply as possible, there is power in numbers. There is something to be said of a strong support system and especially when a person of a more "privilege" position in our country and speak up against injustices. Being a REAL ally is not about validating struggle or "being a savior" and more about recognizing the mess that is and fighting for change in the same way that a POC would, because while privilege is probably great, it's wrong. I also believe in giving props where they're due. Tiffany put together a great analysis and didn't make this video about herself, made sure that the voices of WOC in the Dote situation where still very much so heard. I appreciate that and told her so.

[@jolenejoleeene]

@@monalisa9636 I agree with your sentiment and also think that the perceived need for a white "ally" can be demeaning. But it seems in this situation, part of the issue is that these women's experiences are not being heard. Any voice that brings greater attention to those experiences helps. This video provides an additional gateway to learning about the issue by broadcasting their voices, rather than attempting to speak for them. As an older white woman myself with no interest in fashion or knowledge of any of the parties to this issue, I would likely have never heard of it if not for a suggested video from an unfamiliar creator. But as a caring person, I feel compassion for these young women and deep concern for what they experienced. I wish I had the power to keep things like this from ever happening. I typically don't have that power, but being reminded that it still happens is a start.

[@username-fn3wi]

@@monalisa9636 of course you don't need them but don't be hypocrite by saying white people should acknowledge their privelege and get pissed off when they use it to bring awareness

[@kamrynedison7490]

Being a girl of color growing up in a majority white community that feeling of being “different” hits you so hard. It puts the biggest pit in your tummy and you just want to cry. You can never put you finger on it but it feels wrong and it hurts and you just have to suck it up and act like it doesn’t bother you in fear of getting the problematic black girl label if you bring up your discomfort.

[@ttc958]

im much older and still relate to this. You are valid and so are your feelings.

[@shouganaismile]

:( im so sorry you have had to feel like that throughout your life. Maybe one day we will see a more beautiful world that we have created.

[@ambercotrone]

Kamryn Edison That’s so sad 😢 I’m sorry 😔

[@Roseyday]

How you feel and your experience matters x

[@kamrynedison7490]

xxtoronto xo thank you ❤️

[@hallieharmon701]

More black owned brands need to be doing these trips

[@rowankt5788]

But this will not solve racism.

[@Bullish_Lauren]

That’s racist

[@salamilid4125]

@@Bullish_Lauren no its not

[@salamilid4125]

They don't have enough money

[@eridanustly]

aiemii yo said who?

[@mslightbulb]

Also, not only the size. Were are the small girls, were are the giant 175-2 meter tall girls, the athletic ones, the chubby ones, the curvy ones, the pale ones (most of them are white, but have a tan) the ones with big hips, the ones with glasses, dyed hair, the large bust & the plane surf tables. Were is everyone???

[@alicem1961]

Yes, where are the girls with acne, stretch marks, dark spots, curly hair, short hair?? EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!

[@josjoererg]

At least a few of the girls likely had some sort of acne or stretch marks, but editing and photoshop were most likely used. I have a fairly ideal body for this society but have a lot of acne, stretch marks, eczema, and scars on my body, along with usually not shaving my body hair. If I were there, I would likely either have makeup on or my photos would be edited so I didn't look the way I do because they can edit me to look "ideal".

[@billiebossanova8095]

Agreed all the photos are just them being skinny and having the “perfect” bodies meanwhile they’re tons of other people with lots of more relatable and “different” bodies (I put different in parentheses bc I think they shouldn’t be called different they should be normal if you know what I mean)

[@marvin2678]

​@@alicem1961 If everyone is beautiful, No one is

[@brittanysavoie7608]

one popular dote girl was Ava Jules, and she is asian/polynesian. I think she was the only one of different ethnicity who actually received attention from dote. I'm very glad that she said she would not work with the company anymore.

[@edmurrow3039]

Dote is not a charity. It cares about which girls generate actual sales on the Dote app, based on how much the girls promote the app in their socials and the sales revenue tracked to their followed accounts on the Dote app. These POC girls and their parents are too stupid to understand Coachella / Fji are business ventures while still accepting these FREE expensive trips and then cry when they aren't featured as much as the girls who actually make the company the most money.

[@alanajones9]

Ed Murrow You’re a parrot. You just keep saying the same thing over and over. We get it, you’re ok with their blatant racism.

[@edmurrow3039]

@@alanajones9 This is BS, I am not OK with race-baiting. The white Dote girls were getting so much hate just for being white and popular, being called basic white b!tches and blonde hoes and demands that they have more non-white friends as if they were evil for being the biggest revenue generators for Dote, which receives its revenue from primarily middle class customers who are mostly white, as if this were wrong. Post a video asking Beyonce to send girls to Coachella who her buy her merch, Dote is not responsible for every girl KZbinr who wants to go to Coachella even if they don't buy from Brandy, UNIF, Urban etc.

[@alanajones9]

@@edmurrow3039 Honestly dude, you have shown yourself to be completely incompetent at even attempting to try and understand an opposing view so I'm not gonna waste my time reading your paragraph repeating the same thing you've said over and over again to people in other comment threads. We disagree and I'm just gonna leave it at that.

[@alanajones9]

@FuckYouGoogle I can't say I particularly care about what you think is the truth to be honest. Your opinion means absolutely nothing to me. Also, if you're gonna bother saying something stupid there's no point in adding in an empty apology when you obviously feel no remorse for what you said. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it to begin with. I swear, you and your racist friend are both real life idiots.

[@MorganYatesVids]

my jaw DROPPED at the "this is what dote looks like" posts

[@lesliegerrard3138]

Same girl sameee! So happy to see a real influencer watched this 👏🏻

[@shir600]

Yes same...

[@TheFunnygym]

Racial, physical etc. diversity aside, why do these girls have such big platforms? I mean what's so interesting in watching some teenage girls drinking starbucks and partying around? Boring.

[@glanni]

The kind of kids who used to read celebrity magazines dig it I suppose.

[@MeJustAimy]

The same kind of girls who do those things follow them lol

[@roadworkahead8967]

I think that’s an bigger question that no scientist could even answer

[@macaroons5360]

its for the “self insert” fantasy some people have

[@abidivino]

Maybe it's the new-smaller scale- version of the american dream but teenage style?

[@mgabss]

As a brown woman this brothers me, because there's a lack of representation. Even in Latin America, I'm Colombian, where non-white people are NOT a minority. And I grew up hating myself just because I wasn't like the blonde girl in my class.

[@rosejacklyn]

I understand you 100%. Lack of promotion and inclusiveness messes with your head. Latin America has so many issues with this, and it’s sad. Every shampoo bottle, every ad for financial or academic institutions, every food ad always only shows Caucasian people (white skin, European white features). In the USA, people expect fair treatment and equality since that’s all the country has apparently fought so hard to be known for; however, we rarely see it applied in real life to poc, other body types, different sexualities, people with disabilities, etc. White privileged people in other countries are celebrated when they are minorities bc they are so “different and exotic”, and when they are the majority, they use the “well, we are more represented bc there are more of us” argument without realizing they are put on a pedestal no matter what. Racism stems from the centuries of white colonizers enslaving, mistreating and stealing from poc around the world. And somehow they think a movie like Black Panther should appease minorities.

[@MaiaPalazzo]

Here in Brasil is almost the same, only worse cause white people loooves to say "We're a mixed culture! Racism doesn't exist anymore!". It's infuriating.

[@adriananinoartigas5880]

mai palazzo yep I’m a white Brazilian and legit I’m so sorry that we are so stupid.

[@Ellie60091]

@mai palazzo not all white people in Brazil think the same. Maybe the ones you met do, but it’s not good to generalize.

[@paulasofiag9240]

As a colombian as well i really see the huge problem we have. Since i was little (i'm currently 15 btw) i saw how my brown and black friends were treated in a poorly way, i never fully understood that until i grew up a little bit more, but since then i feel disgusted when people treat me better just because i'm white and blonde, cause i don't think that makes me better than anyone else. And it is such a sick thing, cause we are practically giving privilege to people who fit into the caucasian(european, north america) beauty standards, the same standards of the people who is always segregating us, also is awful to see how much racism we are always seeing on television. It is really concerning because african colombian people are not even minorities, and practically we are a diverse country, because, since the conquest, we are mixed with european people (they came from Spain), black people (african slaves) and natives. Not talking about the racism towards the natives, which is bigger. I hope we will soon solve those problems we have as a society

[@loveit347]

Dote: 69 whites girl and 1 black girl is diversity me: southeast Asian girl sipping water

[@NoName-dx1no]

Love it if it makes you feel better some Asian actresses who are playing Chinese/ korean girls are actually southeast Asian, like Lana Condor who plays to all the boys I loved before, she is playing a half korean character but she is actually Vietnamese, Brenda Song who plays London Tipton from the suite life of zack and Cody,who also plays Wendy Wu:homecoming warrior is half Thai and half Hmong. So yeah it’s not a lot,but it’s a few that I know of

[@lolkayleen2757]

Lolol bruh same * dark Asian that isn't Filipino (no hate pls dont think that) sipping water *

[@loveit347]

lolkayleen uhhhmm I’m not Filipino but I don’t believe all Filipinos have dark skin tone and all other Asians are light skinned. Pls refrain from saying something like that

[@hazelhazel6859]

You know there’s more to Asia than China and Korea...

[@calista5811]

me: another southeast Asian girl who doesn’t know about dote

[@luizag123]

Also on the concept of "quirky" - black women don't get to be quirky. They're just called "trashy" or "guetto" when being themselves.

[@nasinooni5105]

No the correct term for the quirky black girl is "acting white" or "being lame" smh. And white girls still get to be quirky but it kinda turned into edgy since everyone collectively started hating on the quirky girls because they were being annoying.

[@jaminwaite3867]

Nasi Nooni EXACTLY

[@LangBellsChannel]

@@xdlr22 Quirky is used to describe someone who is adorkable or eccentric.

[@user-qv2qf1jk5o]

​@@xdlr22 "Quirky" has such a misogynistic connotation. That doesn't always make it an insult - same way that being called "pretty" is a compliment, but it's misogynistic that girls have to associate their value with their looks more than men do. Still, it's racist that black girls aren't "pretty" according to societal norms. It all comes down to the social hierarchy of a racist/patriarchial/generally bigoted society. (By misogynistic, I mean that "quirky" is either used by girls who say "they're not like other girls," guys who want to sh*t on femininity and thus women - or vice versa - or by writers who want to write a "manic pixie dream girl," female characters with no real personality/agency/plot relevance, and/or just stereotypes.)

[@cargoloyalty9978]

Nasi Nooni Yeah, even now when white girls try being quirky, they’re called basic. It’s kinda unfortunate how this happens. I guess the solution is to be Asian lol. Then you’re not acting white/lame, but you’re also not basic lol. Genuinely though, it’s weird that once something gets popular with women, it’s seen as annoying or cringe. Like, take Twilight. It’s trash, but still dumb fun, but seen as cringey while its male counterparts like transformers, while still made fun of, aren’t mocked to the same extent.

[@starguhl]

diversity isn’t “👱🏻‍♀️👱🏼‍♀️👱🏻‍♀️👱🏻‍♀️👩🏿‍🦱👱🏼‍♀️👱🏽‍♀️👱🏻‍♀️” diversity is people from different cultural backgrounds, religions, sexualities, and races

[@deen_771]

diversity is: 👩🏻👩🏽👱🏻‍♀️👩🏻‍🦰🧕🏼🙋🏿‍♀️💁🏼‍♀️💆🏻‍♀️👳🏽‍♀️. it means including everybody!!

[@alicem1961]

@@deen_771 yes! And 👱🏽👩🏽‍🦽👩‍🦳👩🏿‍🦯👩🏿

[@deen_771]

@@alicem1961 of course :)

[@cocomoody3816]

Don’t forget sizes!

[@ehihihi]

@Aman Yadav wtf is wrong with you?

[@jogonzalez9434]

They NEVER include hispanics Edit: since this have a lot of answers I want to clarify that most of Hispanic characters are played by non- Hispanic people. And every time they want to be inclusive about us is always Mexican culture (nothing wrong with being Mexican, but the rest of Latinoamérican countries also have a lot of culture different from the Mexican one) Edit 2: IK HISPANIC ISNT A RACE. But there is more to being Hispanic than just saying “Mi mama me pega con la chancla”. That’s an exaggeration and a minimization of our culture. We DO have paper white people, we DO have really dark complexions, we DO have mixed people, We DO have native people . But we also have a lack of representation as cultures AND a lack of representation in the mixed portion and native one, because at the end of the day even if (for example) a white Latino see a tv show and there is 0 Hispanic representation, she/he will still represent itself in the white characters, will say “Oh, I look like that”. That’s what we don’t have

[@Sol36900]

Fr!

[@Predestinated1]

yup. Asians and Hispanics are ignored by the media

[@zahrakassam2559]

Try being Indian

[@alannathompson789]

Zahra Kassam Indian is Asian unless you’re talking about Native American

[@zahrakassam2559]

@@alannathompson789 it depends on the context. Asian is so broad. I know Asian covers indian in the UK, but in the US that refers to those of Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Filipino descent, etc. And people of Indian and Middle Eastrtn backgrounds are still largely underrepresented (it is getting slightly better though).

[@verofern41]

wtf “let’s get a video of the black girls dancing” thats so upsetting

[@og-greenmachine8623]

It is pretty fun watching black girls dance... They are the best at it

[@lula1252]

@@og-greenmachine8623 that's not the point

[@cinnamonini.]

@@og-greenmachine8623 🙄🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@banana9546]

@@og-greenmachine8623 wtf.

[@estrella847]

@Day Dreamer i don’t think they meant it like that, i guess they were trying to compliment black girls, because they’re usually good dancers(not saying all of them are or aren’t)

[@myorrin1018]

ALSO we should all mention is how after these girls approached DOTE with their issues they each got crossed off DOTE's list of girls to promote, Kianna actually mentions at the end of her video how she and some of the other girls were totally blacklisted from the app. like with this in mind it really shows how shallow and empty Dote's current #weloveDiversity game is when the people who have actually approached them about these problems get ousted from the company.

[@sierrasouthwell9237]

I have never used DOTE and I will continue not to use DOTE. This is so f***ed up.

[@emi3486]

this is giving me flashbacks to being the only asian girl in my class in grade school and wanting to be white lmao

[@FAY-di7rg]

Never ever wish that! You're beautiful and enough 💞

[@judy5198]

Same here girl 😔 I’m the only asian girl in my whole middle school

[@michellemunkhtulga5907]

Dude same when I was eight I was the only Asian in my class and I remember wishing to be a white girl because than I would be pretty

[@emi3486]

CALISTO thank you 🥺 I've learned to love myself and my culture but it was hard to realize that as a kid aha

[@yomama1717]

Fucking felt that tho 😭😭

[@paolabujo869]

Hannah and Ellie were lowkey kind of rude and disrespectful to Ava, who is not completely white. Ava was CORRECTLY pronouncing Hawaii and other words that weren't in english and ellie was legit making fun of her and the pronounciation and continuously hit ava hard wii a towel even though ava kept telling her to stop. Ava definitely kept a happy face you could say and she didn't speak up but she looked uncomfortable 😣

[@kellyralph3647]

patito pao what video is this in?

[@nat-oi2fh]

ava lowkey has shitty taste in some of her youtube friends

[@SC-dn7bq]

Idk, I feel like Ellie has definitely matured now. She's so much nicer and thoughtful of ppl, especially Ava. I think that was just her kind of childish phase

[@thatbitchass9123]

You can't Vaxx my kids no shes just fake

[@Spicevice_]

patito pao I also want to know Haley Pham’s view on the Fiji trip bec she has yet to say anything. She wasn’t necessarily included you can tell based on Instagram photos and lack of her being anywhere on dotes page. But I don’t know if she felt the huge amount of racism and segregation that the African American girls did. Haley is not the tall blonde blue eyed girl that dote advertised. She’s half Vietnamese, short, dark haired and has the curves. So I want to see what she would say being neither white or black.

[@Eli-so8rk]

i cant explain it but you have very strong cool english teacher energy

[@trinityharper9857]

yea like that one cool ass english teacher everybody fuck with 😂

[@_Alimm]

It's reasons like these that Black girls create their own representation like #BlackMagic #BlackGirlRock #MelaninPoppin because we are always in some way made to feel not good enough. We have to create our own to have any space at all and if we wait to be seen and appreciated we will be waiting forever. I hope people see that now.

[@newworldlord643]

Exactly and then we seen as being mad or racist 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chewychibi03]

And when we do create these spaces, insecure white people try to do the same. I remember when Black People Twitter blew up and then White People Twitter soon followed. I don’t think they realize that White People Twitter is just Twitter.

[@trichmomma]

The fact that the colorism is just being talked about now... The fact that darkskinned content creators have NEVER gotten their fair share and are repeatedly represented by light bright and damn near white and racially ambiguous girls/women ...... The fact that YT is all talk and black YT content creators will still get the short end of the stick...... Excuse me while I dont cry that eyes were opened

[@missshannonsunshine]

Exactly we need to create our own spaces and keep biracial and white people out. Then we’ll be able to be respected more and uplifted more. Edit: I also believe that alll minorities should do it. In fact. They already do and I’m not mad at them for it. Only when they act like they don’t.

[@user-qv2qf1jk5o]

​@@missshannonsunshine I know that, as a white person, I really have no authority on this but I do have a question (don't want to force someone to explain the complex social and cultural factors associated with their existence/identity just because of MY ignorance, so really questions for any POC) - by this do you mean spaces for black people (or black + female, LGBTQIA, plus-size, etc.) only or those spaces along with better diversity in general spaces (to avoid tokenism, like Dote failed to with minority-only trips)? I know this sounds like a loaded question, but I'm not one of those people who consider (insert marginalized group here)-only spaces reverse (insert type of bigotry here) or who say #notall (insert NON-marginalized group here). Also, assuming that by "all minorities should do it," you mean that spaces for biracial people (or Asian, Hispanic, etc.) are also important, but at least some of them should be separate? Like, spaces for non-white people and then also spaces for biracial, black, Asian, Hispanic people specifically? (That's the racial equivalent of my thoughts about LGBTQIA+ spaces, but I know that marginalized groups don't face all the same struggles nor need the same solutions because, surprisingly, shit is complicated)

[@bicycleninja1685]

I remember when "United Colors of Benetton" caused a stir back in the early 80's for showing ads with different races represented together in a group. People were just so used to seeing only white people represented in fashion ads, so it was revolutionary at the time.

[@missk7001]

And they were sooo gorgeous!

[@joshuabuchanan1141]

That's perfectly acceptable, that's not a stir back, people back in the 80s were probably so racially small-minded back then when they saw that benetton ad

[@cupcakegurls909]

You’re severely shallow if you don’t recognize someone is being extra quiet in the room.

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

Many people are that ignorant. Or they choose to ignore the situation. Sometimes I can't tell.

[@savannahduran8269]

I mean not necessarily... I’m extra quiet 100% of the time but that’s just because I’m very shy and I don’t really like go talk at all, I’d rather just listen.

[@cupcakegurls909]

Savannah duran that’s not what I was saying but that’s good you’re so calm

[@bebeenderson7863]

NO SERIOUSLY. LIKE YALL SAW, YALL JUST DIDN'T CARE

[@KTSierra001]

They’re literally teenagers.

[@animemaniac2683]

As a caucasian girl, if i found out that i was treated better than another girl because of our races, i would’ve felt very guilty.

[@captainayaaya28]

You should not feel guilty. It’s not your fault. But you can help!

[@leilam.6794]

Don't feel guilty wasn't ur fault! Just help out

[@boboblueblue2]

It’s understandable that you may feel guilt but a way to ease that is to use that guilt and turn it into action! Step up and help those who were treated terribly! You can’t change your skin colour but you can use your privilege to help others!

[@haileyscrid367]

Yeah that's why Emma Chamberlain and Ava Jules cut ties with Dote immediately afterwards.

[@haileyscrid367]

Well Ava Jules took much longer to cut ties with Dote, but Emma Chamberlain cut ties IMMEDIATELY

[@rosieluvsdance97]

this is literally a youtube version of my middle school experience. there was a clique of girls that were mostly white and they had a token black friend who they invited everywhere just to take photos with.

[@naan000]

The caucasity 🤢

[@Bumblexo]

That’s really disgusting. I am so so sorry, you don’t deserve that, no one deserves that

[@joshuabuchanan1141]

That's disturbing and unacceptable

[@salinat9943]

I normally don't like Caucasian people talking about white racism because it kinda feels like they don't get it. but, this video was completely amazing, it was used to amplify and spread the stories of the girls of colour, without talking over them❤️

[@insertusername4079]

bunni sin yes

[@sappy.3xe]

bunni sin Not really. Yes it’s racism no matter what, but not to the same degree. You don’t see many white people getting the police called on them for doing normal activities as black people do.

[@kenji7982]

@@bunnisin-wb3cg according to 2016 census data, racial minorities are more likely to be living in poverty. :/

[@dc9067]

I don't get it You say that white people privilege is basically not giving a fuck about racism, but when we try to talk about it, you say that we could never understand. Then what are we supposed to do ?

[@valentinaespinosa7894]

There's a show on Netflix called "white people" they spend all the time speaking about racism and then they are racist towards latinos. That's a perfect representation of POC the US, you present yourselves as such voctims but you actually have no idea and are as closed minded as white americans, because guess what? You come from the same culture and place, you think you have problems but you live in a wealthy country.

[@BronwynAlexandriaa]

schools: literally assign literary curriculum that directly addresses racism and racist history in America. society: we can't address racism it's too controversial me: wtf.

[@heavenlymxrs5373]

bronwynalexandria exactly

[@Alecexo]

That’s why I don’t understand when some white people dont know not to say the n word or that being racist is wrong

[@Lilyjem39]

A few months ago in school my class and I watched this pbs documentary about this all white school with kids that probably were in third grade. These kids were racist and would say the n word, call Asians “yellow skins”, and so on (i think this was filmed in the 70s). The teacher held an experiment where blue eyed kids were superior to brown eyed kids and blue eyed kids got 5 more minutes of recess, got to drink from both water fountains in the class, and were treated better. The next day they switched roles and brown eyed kids were one superior. I recommend it, the documentary provides an interesting perspective on racism for those who are not poc.

[@vicscamera]

I’m actually glad that people are talking about this. As a small creator it’s kinda discouraging not to see bigger creators who I can relate to and watch. Great video!

[@RachelNicole]

lil vic real rap that’s why I started making content to address this 😂

[@moonpiee3164]

Real diversity is all ethnicities, weight, height, gender, backgrounds etc...

[@og-greenmachine8623]

In other words -disgusting

[@localtaehyungsimp5371]

Roddy MacChlerich no ❤️

[@wryframes]

Sexuality’s too:)

[@wryframes]

@@og-greenmachine8623 ur the only disgusting human here 😌

[@HeyHeyItzGabbie]

@@og-greenmachine8623 ???

[@mzzzzzzday]

i'm black. it's 100% noticeable. i just don't care and do not use certain brands. dote is not the first to do this.

[@lillililli1726]

Girl...I'm black on internet and didn't even know what Dote is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I don't have time for this shit...

[@marybrown348]

*the main white dote girls could of FIXED the situation by INCLUDING others in their group; sticking to their clique is NOT RIGHT*

[@stephjn3348]

Mary Brown I don’t agree with mainly because I don’t think anyone should be force to be friends with someone they don’t want to but I do understand what your trying to they definitely needed a form of inclusion in their group and not outcast the girls because they were black

[@multijxde1855]

Steph Jn but the people of color on these trips seemed really nice and well rounded. They didn’t even cause any problems. One of the white girls could’ve atleast say ‘hey wanna hang out with us? Etc..’ or maybe even ask if they were okay. It’s already hard enough for poc to hang around a whole group of white people as it is (just because they feel left out, or the odd one out) so the other girls didn’t have to just stay in there cliques. This also works if the roles were reversed. If the dominance is poc there and it’s only a couple of white people , some of the white girls could feel left out as well..

[@miyounova]

*have

[@elisemueller9967]

Agree

[@rinwesley3092]

You can't force me to be your friend. That's also not right.

[@haidyn1230]

"let me get the black girls on film dancing" like wth they dont say let me get the white girls on film learn their names and appriciate them just like everyone else!

[@centuryfiles9558]

@@1spliffmf one of the photographers

[@fmars2317]

Honestly I would just go up to them and be like omg your really pretty keep doing you and ill film it!

[@centuryfiles9558]

fmars_2 yeah bc you’re a decent person

[@krisdoesart9643]

I love that in this video, Tiffany didn't speak for the black girls, she showed videos of the girls speaking for themselves and gave them another opportunity to talk about their experiences firsthand

[@swededontknow]

i’ve felt the “token black girl” but in school, with my education system being very competitive with grades and such. i’ve expressed this with my parents when they were trying to understand how i didn’t really like myself, but i haven’t really talked about it much. throughout middle school, there were 4 black kids in my grade. in elementary school, there were two. there’s a lot more now in high school, but they all came from a school that was completely underfunded compared to the majority white school. in middle school, there was two other black girls and one black guy. the guy was considered a dumbass and rude, another girl was like this, and another was known for being good at sports. i was known because i was in the higher classes. that’s almost all i was known for. i felt more pressured to be good at school, because each one of us was known for something, and school was mine. it’s like i had to present myself as “a smart student, more educated than what you would think of a black girl!” i once had a teacher tell me “you’re smarter than i expected you to be.” in sixth grade. after that, i tried my hardest to be better so then no one would assume that i obviously wouldn’t be bad at this. it was such a toxic idea of myself that i had to be “the token girl”, and it’s hurt even more now in high school cuz i’m struggling with classes, and it feels like everyone else understands. it’s like i’m losing the one part that people even saw me for. i dunno, it’s been hard for me to explain this for a long time, and this video shows how being “a token girl” of any race can be harmful

[@alienswillcomeAWC]

I wish you luck with your classes and while I don’t know you personally, I’m sure you are a beautiful multi-faceted person capable of many things in life (like all people are)

[@runway5338]

It’s hard for me to image that situation, simply b/c in all the schools I went to, there were many different ethnicities and plenty of ppl to represent those different ethnic and religious backgrounds. I hope you’ll be able to find yourself in a place where the color of your skin doesn’t matter, just your skills and personality. Hope you don’t mind me giving you some advice. You should do some things relaxes you and doesn’t require much of your energy, especially your mental energy since you’ll need that focus to study. Do something you find relaxing and joy in a couple times a week, even if it’s just for half an hour so you don’t feel bad about it. Do you exercise? Exercising is pretty good at releasing endorphin and all those positive chemicals that makes you happy. There are also studies that have shown exercising to be beneficial for studying/learning. You’ll be killing 3 birds w/ 1 stone. There’s a channel called Med School Insiders that gives pretty good study tips and is applicable for all students. Despite his focus on the Medical students, it’s helpful for a general audience. Just realized, these won’t be helpful to you unless you yourself decide to accept it, and you may already know all this. You seem like you’re in a transitional and sensitive phase in your life. Doesn’t help that you’re a teenager. Don’t be afraid to talk to someone you’re close w/ and can trust about your worries. They’ll be there to lend an ear and maybe help guide you. Good luck w/ your endeavors, don’t give up! Find a goal you really want to achieve, that might help?

[@stardust1841]

Holy crap I relate to this! It really sucks.

[@jborrego2406]

I hear u I was one out 2 black ppl in my school . The other one was special needs so we never talked . The teachers were racist as shit

[@jaydenbrockington4525]

I’ve had a similar expirance

[@SpaceMonkiiBob]

Dote's racist behaviors are not surprising at all. Their image is a literal reflection of how white popular youtube is. Really appreciate the video tiffany!

[@JW-cvnt]

Dote- we're not racist, we send POC influencers on trips and treat them poorly!!!

[@babielinny]

trixie?

[@arielcheyenne1853]

I'm a 40+yo jewish mother of two teenage African american mixed race children and we need videos like this to help get real conversations going. White Americans who are not affluent have a hard time believing that they have privilege. The folks who grow up in appartments, trailer parks or so-called-manufactured-home-communties take offense at the idea because they only understand privilege as being financially comfortable. They don't understand how even though they fall into the same tax bracket they're given the "benefit of the doubt" when walking into an Ulta they're not followed as an African american would be or when they get pulled over by the police their immediate internal response isn't "am I going to die today" White Privilege isn't just always about financial security. As your video shows; it's a bigger issue and we ALL have to have space in which to speak about it sincerely and with open hearted dialogue so that we can get to a place of understanding and healing.

[@oliviaplamondon5333]

exactly! im so glad I was raised knowing the issue with racism and privilege in America

[@ninkiminjaj2835]

Your brain is so beautiful

[@alexforce9]

Asians dont think that they will die today when they are pulled over. Is that a asian privilage?

[@user-tw8ov]

Your a insane left wing nutjob

[@canadianmaple4227]

Alex Force, Firstly, where did you hear that from? I’m Southeast Asian and I do acknowledge that Asians do not experience the magnitude of racism that our fellow black minorities do. However, that doesn’t mean we have “privileges” of that like whites. Maybe it depends on the area, but I live in a very diverse city/county yet almost all the police officers are white. One incident was I got pulled over and while I was not afraid that I would get killed, I was treated differently; belittled. The officer talked to me like I was 5 years old and was literally raising their voice for no reason. Sometimes I’m walking on the sidewalk and police stare at me like I’m crazy. I grew up being told to never touch the white kids if we played tag because their parents were going to call the police on me. Whites (of course not all) in my area were known to accuse minorities of assault A LOT, mostly over accidentally bumping into them. It’s also happened quite a few times where I live although there aren’t many recent cases, but 10 years ago or so, there has been Southeast Asians that get killed by police for practically no reason. Fortunately, that has changed quite a bit over the years. That doesn’t mean we experience what blacks experience because we experience far less police brutality. Our world isn’t equal. You can’t say “Asian privilege” because whites have much much more. Yet, we seemed to have more privileges over blacks just because we are supposed to be a “model minority.” That’s why BLM is very important for everybody. We all need to be treated equally.

[@maryp9923]

All the white girls in those clips remind me sm of the girls that would make fun of me Smh the girls in that shithole of a room all seemed really down to earth and sweet This is really making me mad rn

[@ceci7783]

Mary P they remind me of the group of girls who can afford super trendy nice clothing and won’t hang out with ppl who can’t

[@bliss2k727]

Cc H isn’t some of them already like that?

[@ceci7783]

Last Goodbye true

[@cynrez]

Wait but do they still make fun of you tho???

[@leslyyy_aa]

It’s crazy how they “occasionally” throw in black girls/Asian girls or whatever but there’s many other groups of people missing here 🤦🏻‍♀️what about latinas ? Or many other groups of people 🤦🏻‍♀️they need real diversity!!

[@marinelchavhez7269]

I know what you mean, but latinas is an ethnicity not a race :3 we have so much divercities of light and dark skin, facial and body types too.

[@grapesyrop]

Latino is not a race tho... u have black white latinos mixed latinos. Whats ur point exactly

[@sere_amarilla]

@@grapesyrop the point is that most of them come from the same spot, there are no asians, latinas nor middle eastern girls. the point is the lack of diversity in culture as in colour. do you think that's not enough to think about?

[@dontlookoutside3]

Marinel Chávhez nah see y’all love to speak for us Latinos but we do have our own native racial background just like native Hawaiians and native Americans.

[@bloodyknees1630]

And also body types. We all see these vegan keto diet barbies. And I want to see girls with curves being put into the light.

[@prettyinpinky5937]

This is what being an ally to people of color looks like well done 👏🏽👍🏽

[@НаташаЛ-ш5з]

I don't really understand why companies like that purposefully avoid including any diversity. Even if you think pragmatically - the more diversity you show, the more groups can relate to your product. Appealing to only white groups is putting all eggs in one basket! The idea is so simple, yet nearly every brand clings to the concept of exclusive whiteness as being a great bet for brand representation. It is not, and the market is starving for the opposite - just look at how Rihanna's brand skyrocketed simply because it is diverse. My point is - diversity is not only good for moral reasons, it's good for business as well.

[@embracelifewithemily]

Sadly, they do it because it’s what sells. It’s something we’re slipping out of now, but for the longest, we were all so programmed to find lighter people more appealing that the purposeful racism in casting and media was justified by the positive feedback from viewers. I mean, look at Netflix. Look at how many white people are in films compared to everyone else.

[@littlemissmarissable]

This is exactly how white people should be talking about problems to do with racism: promoting the voices of people who are actually experiencing racism, admitting their privilege, and admitting that they don't know what it's like. Love it, thank you Tiffany!

[@miyounova]

Sure, ok. But why doesn't it apply to lgbtq issues, where no one bars an eye when a cis straight person defends lgbtq rights?

[@rockorletleeknowme9302]

Camille Cis white people defend LGBT all the time. I see it all the time like with Taylor Swift. The difference is that a lot of people don’t like when people who aren’t LGBTQ support or speak out about their problems. It’s mostly on Twitter tho so it’s not the most common thing.

[@Itzkeisha]

Tiffany I’ve been a huge supporter of yours for quite some time now . I knew there was a reason for subbing , your just so sweet and educated so thank you 💙

[@a.j.w9992]

Keisha started a movement 👀👀👀

[@strangekat2840]

When people say "diversity" they usually talk about racial diversity, and most companies think that racial diversity is the only type of diversity. One token (straight sized) black girl and suddenly everyone's represented. Forget about disabled or LGBT or plus sized or non conventionally attractive girls. On these trips, were there any disabled creators? What are their experiences? It's bullshit. They clearly care about diversity about as much as I care about the football team of Sweden. Ie not at all.

[@jaderamos3598]

As a disabled lesbian & person of color, I appreciate this comment so much. Thank you for bringing that up.

[@kcdiamond9703]

Strange Kat if a company has a certain aesthetic of look they’re going for that’s fine if they’re trying to sell to a certain market that’s fine it doesn’t mean they’re discriminating against say disabled or pus sized people

[@beardedrogue4282]

Do people not realize that you literally cannot represent every possible person? I don't feel represented by almost anything that I watch. Who in their right mind looks for the media to represent them?

[@strangekat2840]

@@beardedrogue4282 I do realise that, I was talking about companies who claim to be "inclusive" and then only have one type of diversity. Although there is never any excuse for discrimination. As happens fairly frequently to me.

[@rexrabbitfur]

@Luc Sounds lovely to me. Lets make it happen!

[@berenicevaldez3751]

Even if some of the girls were Hispanic they choose the whiter ones non of the darker ones or ones with brown skin

[@tinge1990]

YOU NEED TO DO A VIDEO ON 'not like other girls' PHENOMENON

[@jelkalamawy8563]

did you watch kurtis conner's video

[@bluefacebabey6667]

PLEASE

[@melodyhaviland9393]

omg yes PLEASE

[@parkchimmin7913]

J Kalamawy YEE YEE

[@zeinabadam958]

Honestly you're amazing so thorough, intelligent and respectful ❤️

[@arose4u2]

This sounds like the new Abercrombie and Fitch

[@emmaphilo4049]

Like Brandy Melville. Stereotypes of what a beautiful young girl should be and the dynamics of inclusion/exclusion are still a strong marketing tool to sell shit to young ppl unfortunatly

[@caramelkisses8857]

Yup

[@IndigoAlpha]

Yeah, this stinks of Abercrombie and Fitch-levels of looksism and other BS

[@ellaneruda]

I want to see more people with disabilities in advertisements. 15% of the world’s population have one or more disabilities. That’s more than 1 billion people. And not only advertisements with wheelchair users in them, I want to see people with all kinds of mobility devices, people who use sign language and / or wear hearing aids or cochlear implants, people who communicate with AAC, people with disabilities that have distinct facial features such as Down Syndrome or FASD, people who have service dogs, little people / people of short stature / people with dwarfism, people with insulin pumps and / or continuous glucose monitors, people who are visually impaired or blind and use a cane to navigate the world, ALL KINDS OF DISABILITIES! I really think that the world would be a more inclusive and accepting place if disabilities were viewed as a normal part of the human experience. I think it is so powerful when children are able to interact with people who have disabilities at a young age. “Normal” is simply what you are used to, “normal” can be changed.

[@mono631]

RayS2able What an idiotic statement. Do you think the average person has the resources to do something like that? What would they even be advertising?

[@ellaneruda]

Mannyquin Thank you! I am a caregiver and a college student and not interested in advertising as a career. I don’t have to become an environmental scientist because I want to protect the planet, I can advocate for something without being the person who physically does it.

[@mono631]

@@ellaneruda I actually want to become an environmental scientist of sorts myself, so that's pretty funny. But you're totally right.

[@plantzommy]

I bet a ton of people in adverts have disabilities and you don’t even know Bc they’re invisible 🥰

[@ellaneruda]

K A That’s a great point!

[@issecret1]

Yeah, it’s official. I’m too old for this part of youtube.

[@jessicabalderas3538]

Same here, I do not even know who is Emma Chamberlain

[@Dins_bean]

I have no idea who is who but! No one is too old to be aware of what is going on. I feel educated after this

[@roxlovesfearless]

No one is too old to speak out against racism!

[@jessicabalderas3538]

@@roxlovesfearless we get it, we just said we are too old to know the people involved, but not to know what is wrong

[@owenb7911]

relateable

[@TheRealAmyJane]

I work in tourism industry and with large groups that don't necessarily know eachother, it always adds to the experience to have them intermingle. This rooming situation was VERY intentional. They have to communicate to the business/hotel where the girls are checking in. They have to write the names.

[@chewychibi03]

I knew I subscribed to you for a reason. You using your privilege to help out poc is truly appreciated. Thank you.

[@monalisa9636]

How To People Again. Another young black woman looking for her white savior. You think white people are better than you and your bending the knee for her to validate your blackness and struggle. You see her as “ privilege” and you’re just the poor color girl. White women aren’t going to save you nor do they have too. POC is just Colored People. Stop your self hating. White women are not better than you because you are made by the same God that made her. Many whites like her only want to exploit our struggle to virtue single to other whites. She isn’t helping black people...at all. No one know what Dote is. Black people have bigger issues.

[@jjj23j]

@@monalisa9636 tf ?

[@maritown406]

Mona Lisa Those paragraphs are SO unnecessary. Like just shut up?

[@blancobunni1171]

@@monalisa9636 It is as if you are saying that white people have a certain privilege, which they are criticized for. So instead of using that "privilege" to their advantage, they use it to stand up for others who don't have that "privilege". Then it just ends in more criticism. However, if they just completely ignore it, they are still criticized. It is as if there is nothing a white person can do to help racism, only POC can gather together and hate them and criticize them. Like tf?

[@Jesei1211]

@@blancobunni1171 to begin with what white privileges are there?

[@sarahanane1041]

I want to see ALL RACES, ALL TONES, ALL BODIE SHAPES, ALL SEXUALITIES I WANT THE FULL PACKAGE.

[@og-greenmachine8623]

Well go to sleep because you’re dreaming Have a dream America is black and white culture The other cultures involve other nations... So long as it’s blacks and whites at least it’s about America we’ve been here since the 1600s

[@scarlettjersey307]

@@og-greenmachine8623 what???!

[@missimperfectlyfine7]

yess

[@Epodmusic17]

Same

[@devillass6025]

@@og-greenmachine8623 Sir...please lay off the drugs and sit down somewhere.

[@hannahpop355]

When Dote first became popular, I think this now blatant discrimination came off more as cliques amongst the girls rather than an actual problem within the brand. As they had more and more trips however, it’s very obvious something was up with Dote. I would believe Dote was just being ignorant had they not deleted old photos on their Instagram, and began to now post new photos to prove how “diverse” they are. The brand definitely fostered a feeling of being unwelcome and tokenism of the girls of colour.

[@kristingallo2158]

But do black blogs or black magazines hire white girls? There's allot of double standards in diversity.

[@anon9876]

@@kristingallo2158 Black blogs and magazines were created in retaliation to companies like dote. Do you really think black people would feel the need to do this if they were already included? Thats not a double standard. It would be if black people were equally represented in society, but we are not.

[@faiali2895]

@@kristingallo2158 the racism jumped out

[@kristingallo2158]

@@faiali2895 so I'm racist for pointing out that equality only means one group needs to be diverse and self segregation is celebrated? That's a pretty heavy accusation when I'm pointing out facts.

[@kristingallo2158]

@@anon9876 While I understand that concept was necessary when it began it seems that idea has only kept groups separated. Black magazines only hire black models, writers,and publishers. So white companies think well they have their own spaces. I do believe that allowing some groups to be non diverse and making others diverse is only adding to the problem not fixing it.

[@Mariana-xi4cc]

If you're silent, you're an accomplice... As a Latina girl, this means a lot, thank you so much

[@Emma-vu3hx]

Mariana ...no you aren’t

[@carlosheehee46]

Bullshit. She’s basically saying everyone who doesn’t agree with what she’s saying is racist.

[@mrmaniac3]

You’re either with us or you’re against us That mentality always goes down well, right? Right????

[@jacob_massengale]

@*Tea Truffel* So you think that everyone who didn't speak up about Dote is racist?

[@avacx]

Aw I love how you put ItzKeisha in the thumbnail

[@Itzkeisha]

ava c ikr it melted my heart

[@avacx]

ItzKeisha HEWKIEKEKEK ITS YOU 😫😫😫 I’ve watched you for the longest time i can’t believe this, you deserve the recognition you’re getting now and so much more

[@destinyx4385]

And I love how she watched this video and commented and replied to you in your thread ❤️

[@dunno4929]

ok so, what about my fellow native american people? like we're here too, where is our representation?

[@rosierose5933]

it’s almost like we don’t exist anymore lol

[@gaylenehenry9901]

Rosie Rose lol 😝

[@AuthenticInFashion]

Correct. You should be more vocal about it. Definitely.

[@nyx0id]

Absolutely

[@shanouboubou]

Yeah we also need a movement for Native Americans, you guys were treated horribly and we don't speak enough about it

[@biamonte12]

you are sooo well spoken and I absolutely love this video

[@wkdwflp]

Bianca Monte i love ur profile pic

[@karlyxoxo2]

I'm so glad you covered this Tiffany! So many companies use the words "Inclusive" & "diversity" but dont actually implement the actual practices to welcome diversity. It's so annoying. You cant just say your inclusive and then invite WOC on your trips. Look at the staff, photographers, sleeping arrangements in this situation.. diversity TAKES WORK. Dont just slap it on your company like a sticker.

[@nine300]

Yeah, it's kind of like greenwashing... I guess you could call it brownwashing.

[@user-qv2qf1jk5o]

I'm white, so I obviously don't understand diversity and racism on the same level as POC do, but I can say I relate to "pinkwashing," so I'm not surprised that the same thing happens to other marginalized groups -_-

[@a14young]

What a white ally actually looks like. So much respect👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@s4dnie]

im Native American and let me say this i.👏🏾want.👏🏾more.👏🏾diversity 👏🏾 everybody is beautiful diversity is not black and white

[@leftypaws1131]

✨❤️

[@Martina_E]

Yes👏🏾

[@joshuabuchanan1141]

👏true

[@Jess-rl7sf]

you should see the damage control dote is attempting on their instagram.... yikes

[@potatopenguin5700]

Omg!!! You're doing the work I also want to do (through blog writing since I'm too shy for youtube) in critically analysing internet trends! Sociologically speaking, this shit is freakin' amazing (too bad social sciences have a bad rep despite society needing it to assess foundational issues). Happy I found your channel! KZbin algorithm did right

[@teegee5928]

Potato Penguin I’m currently studying Sociology at university and in beginning my dissertation on Social media and Perceptions of Reality! I don’t care if the course has a bad rep because the modules we cover are crazy interesting! So glad I came across this video!

[@gaby7989]

Bruh I wanna see tall girls, curly girls, fat girls , skinny girls, gay girls and foreign girls!!! Come on !!!

[@lotsofgroove]

Yes!!!!

[@gaby7989]

forestm Those people you are talking about, are people . . . 😐And they shouldn’t be treated like shit or excluded which can drive a person even further into depression which does NOT improve overall health. Just be nice dude .

[@jessica3218]

forestm 💔💔💔

[@wolfie1703]

the gingerbread man Yo, im sorry, i didnt end getting the notification for these comments until now. I was really stupid a month ago and i've changed a lot, im sorry. I cringed ehen i looked at the comment.

[@wolfie1703]

Teresa I agree with you.

[@anony1596]

Oh man Brandy Melville 😅 When I first discovered the 'just girly things uwu' sector of youtube (at least 7 years ago), Bethany Mota was like my fairy godmother. I was so excited, I will never forget begging my mom to take my 13 or 14 y/o thicc black behind (I've always had a big butt and I was a size 6-8 soccer player at the time) into a Brandy Melville with intentions of leaving with a circle skirt like the ones Beth wore in her videos just to be flabbergasted by the 'one size fits all' tag. Like, I couldn't even fit a thigh. 😭😭 Only a slight exaggeration but it was like an outer body experience like I looked at the tag, then the skirt, then the pictures and ads around the store and was like 'this isn't for me. This was never for me.' I really had to reevaluate my whole life after that lol Well that's my anonymous story telling for the day 😭 I've actually never shared that before because I don't personally know anyone who can relate or would even understand it.

[@oliviaplamondon5333]

if ur still interested in the skirts, they have the same ones on the website Romwe in sizes small, medium, and large(:

[@orionliketheconstellation3003]

It bugs me so much that brandy mellville only has small sizes! What about everyone else? Its si frustrating

[@bobetteross2446]

this hurts my heart to hear. i've seen thousands of people defend brandy by saying it's making clothes for petite sizes the way that plus-size stores do, but here's the difference: brandy is not body positive. it is not diverse. it does not promote a healthy atmosphere. the company itself is run by two men, and it is a racist fast fashion brand. you can please a group of people without traumatizing people outside of that group! you're beautiful, i'm so so sorry you experienced that.

[@oliviaplamondon5333]

bobette ross omg yesss! and the thing is, if you make a petit clothing store, you have to make different sizes, not every petit person is the same size

[@Andrea-pr7wo]

It sucks. I fit in the tops and dresses but pants and skirts will make me look like a sausage that's about to pop. An I'm not even "curvy", I just have slightly wider hips and my legs are not that skinny, I'm a size 6 (M) in pants. So Brandy only works for someone if they are size 4 overall 😶

[@foobar171]

can we just acknowledge how BEAUTIFUL the POC girls in dote are! literally so stunning.

[@antonvanderbatez6015]

Virtue signalling much

[@og-greenmachine8623]

Especially the black girl with the Afro

[@nope.thankies]

@@antonvanderbatez6015 performative

[@cxcfr3]

@@og-greenmachine8623 weren’t you just be racist in another comment?

[@alicem1961]

they're all beautiful (including all of the 'white' girls) , it's just sad that none of them spoke out :(