What Does The Bible Say About Alcohol & Social Drinking?

In today’s Bible study, I would like to answer some pressing questions often debated about wine, alcohol, and Christians.
1) Was the wine and alcohol in biblical times comparable to the wine and alcohol of today?
2) Does the Bible promote the health benefits of alcohol?
3)Does Christian liberty give me permission to use alcohol?
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[@andrewhuckle803]

"A man takes a drink and a drink takes a man".... Quote from Billy Graham. Don't be under the influence of alcohol but be filled and under the influence of The Holy Spirit.

[@shivli6088]

Wisdom. Thank you! Amen🙏🙏🙏

[@elie2133]

say that to jesus who turned water into wine lmao

[@andrewhuckle803]

@@elie2133 Yes he did, but the Bible warns against drunkenness and the abuse of alcohol.

[@EmeraldRainbowGLORY]

@@andrewhuckle803Every😢thing in moderation....never to excess❤

[@JaneYoung-u3f]

We 😮😂❤ 1:29 ​@@shivli6088

[@connieoppman9526]

Very good information Pastor Tiff ,alcohol is way out of control in this world , I drank when I was younger,, but not anymore, I love Jesus to much to waste my time on something that is harmful to your body ,our bodies are the Temple of God and should not be defiled by drinking alcohol

[@carlossancho8821]

The volume of alcohol (porcentage ) is determined by the specific gravity of the juice from the grapes at the beginning of the fermentation process. In modern times depends of the sugar content and the type of yeast used for the fermentation process . Some are more tolerant to the volume of alcohol than others. That means that when the specific gravity drops below zero you will end up with a higher percentage of alcohol. During the old times nature took care of that (naturally fermented) I believe the percentage of alcohol was pretty high. Cutting down wine to 20 to 1 defeats the purpose of sterilization due to the small content of alcohol in the mixture.

[@natalyd9674]

Thank you. I think people use the "it wasn't really wine" justification to try and explain why Christians should not drink at all. I agree that there are several passages in scripture warning against drunkenness, but I'm not sure there is Scripture prohibiting drinking wine. I think it's careless to try and equivocate the wine used in the old times.

[@wfmcfp1]

My research seems to indicate that is unlikely that the yeast in a grapes skin, as compared to genetically 'improved' yeasts used today, caused a potent alcoholic content in Bible times....maybe 7-8% by volume, as this youtube piece suggests. Today's lowest alcoholic % content by volume is 13-14% up to 24%. Also, archeological information records many /most societies in Bible times always diluted the wine with water, from 3:1 up to 20:1 (Pliney).... which agrees with this gentelman's information.

[@jossymedlyn6844]

Thank you so much for taking time to teach the undiluted Word of God. I am so blessed.

[@Simonsvids]

His verson of the lords word is warped. Jesus does not tell us that drinking is a sin. If you believe that then you should go to a mosque, not a church and you are a heretic.

[@christaborghoff8355]

I was an alcoholic- I prayed and asked for strength to quit/ I quit- quit cold turkey- 7 days of detox at home- almost died- I didn’t know you could from quitting cold turkey. But God got me through it. 9 years sober. No rehab- just Jesus. That was my rehab. Zero desires- and so happy to be away from that demon. God is the answer to everything.

[@sharonhuber7375]

PRAISE GOD!!!

[@doriscastro8414]

AMAZING PTL ! 🙌🏻🫶🏻🙌🏻🫶🏻✝️🙌🏻

[@KayHudson-kz5vl]

Didn’t Jesus make wine for the wedding,

[@KayHudson-kz5vl]

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[@andreablume2589]

I'm a Christian but sadly got into problems with alcohol😢I'm so ashamed

[@rapturewatchjesusiscoming3143]

Keep praying beloved, Jesus will deliver you... don't give up. Our Father delivered me from alcohol cigarettes and other addictions... seek Jesus with all of your heart. He will break that addiction off you, have faith xxx

[@andreablume2589]

God bless you my brother 🙏 see u in glory

[@marleneholloway7775]

Thanks to the Lord, you are honest and not in denial...your doing well 🙏.

[@andreablume2589]

@@raymondraia1601 yea thanks for that.

[@mumsylydz]

I do drink too 🥲 but not drunk 😢

[@algernon_2023]

Psalms 104 14 He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for people to cultivate- bringing forth food from the earth: 15 wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts. The Bible warns about drunkenness but alcohol in moderation seems fine.

[@marleymayfield2635]

I'm 62 years old and a devout Christian, thankyou Jesus. My DR who is also a Pastor recommends 1 glass of red wine with evening meal. I took his advice several years ago and have had no spiritual conviction.

[@heapsofblessings]

@@marleymayfield2635 you must have not even listened to the teaching because if you had you would have be informed that modern day wine is nothing like the wine the Bible refers to. Take your glass of wine and water it down about 10 times and drink a glass of that and now you’re drinking “Biblical wine” or if you must have that slight amount of alcohol just drink kombucha from the store, at least it is full of probiotics and plus it has the small amount of alcohol that biblical wine has.

[@heapsofblessings]

2-2.75% alcohol = common wine mentioned in the Bible. Listen to the whole teaching, Tiff taught that modern wine is nothing like what the Bible calls wine.

[@algernon_2023]

@@heapsofblessings I don't know where he came up with that. According to scholars, the alcohol content of wine during Biblical times was usually between 5-20%, which is enough to intoxicate.1 Wine in the Bible can refer to just simple grape juice or wine that does not exceed an alcoholic content of about 10%. The production capacity apparent from archaeological remains and the frequent biblical references to wine suggest that it was the principal alcoholic beverage of the ancient Israelites. The main difference between Roman and modern wines was likely their alcohol content, as both Greek and Roman wines likely had as high as 15% or 20% ABV, compared with 10-12% or so in most modern wines. The consumption of wine was often very different as well.2 A 2:1 or 3:1 ratio was not unusual, but even a 3:1 ratio would yield a drink of 3-5%, which is similar to an average American beer.

[@heapsofblessings]

@@algernon_2023 it was 2-2.75% after dilution with water, he didn't "come up with it" - Tiff Shuttlesworth researched the claims he made extensively.

[@doonagoding6146]

I struggle with this very thing! It can easily become an idol. Life can be almost based on whether you will be able to have wine or not. Satan lies and says “ oh you are missing out if you don’t…..”. I must believe God can and will do better!

[@BirdNatureView]

If there was only a slim chance you'll lose salvation and Gods presence you need to get rid off alcohol. Like Jesus said; "It's better to not drink alcohol and go to heaven than to drink it and go to hell". I know that's not literally what God said, but you get the point I think :) Not saying you can't drink alcohol necessarily, but if you struggle and if it's tempting you than it's way better to sacrifice it!!

[@lil-al]

@@BirdNatureView Jesus drank wine, get over it.

[@marleneholloway7775]

@@lil-al those words say plenty to me.

[@johndeppel]

Jesus’ first miracle was turning water to wine. And there’s a discussion at the wedding about how happy everyone was to be getting drunk from drinking food wine. To say that God has never created alcohol is simply, and categorically, wrong.

[@matthewarnold5531]

Wine (yayin in Hebrew) is a gift from God to cheer the heart - psalm 104:15. That same wine (yayin) can also cause drunkenness if abused. That same wine (yayin) God states can be drunk, along with other stronger alcoholic drinks after the Nazarite vow has finished, Numbers 6:20. As the ancient Mesopotamians enjoyed the distillation process back as far as 3500BCE, we can be sure that the Israelites were also enjoying distilled drinks. It's anti historical to say distillation was invented in the medieval period.

[@mecoetzer5688]

I am guilty... though not abusing alcohol... i do have a jack daniels now and then... feel like this study as meant for my ears ... thank you very much!

[@TiffShuttlesworth]

You're welcome.

[@stevecampanelli6009]

​@@TiffShuttlesworthnotice you don't consider Deuteronomy 14 :26 in your diatribe of nonsense did God sin? How about the alcohol allowed outside the temple and 300 years of church history by the apostles students whom all taught moderation of alcohol every church father taught this

[@Janet-kt1nh]

This is simple GOD'S WORD don't ever be in a alter mind state, drinking is not prohibited but you have to be careful drinking will bite you like a snake.

[@johnpfaff5871]

Isn't Jesus turning water into wine? Also, God's word simply enough. Yes, he was a fallen man. Kind of ends that whole diety thing

[@johnandanitachavez1741]

Thank God for this teaching. I pray for those who don't believe that alcohol has a way of getting ahold of one's life. I've lost so many loved ones , who fell into the trap of alcoholism. My heart and prayers go out to those who are held in it's clutches.

[@ShanaJane82]

Amen! I pray that all Christian’s who are struggling with alcohol, or struggling with understanding this message, be healed and enlightened, in Jesus mighty name!

[@sshelget]

I’m 56 years old and I have never had even a sip of alcohol. I just don’t understand why people need or want alcohol as a drink. It’s not needed for social events, sports, holidays, parties, yet everyone thinks it is.

[@twitherspoon8954]

It's delicious and relaxing.

[@kris78787]

I also have never drank alcohol in my entire life. The smell alone makes me nauseous

[@twitherspoon8954]

@@kris78787 _"The smell alone makes me nauseous."_ Vodka doesn't have an odor.

[@kris78787]

@@twitherspoon8954 that’s not the only alcoholic drink though, I can’t stand the smell of alcohol

[@twitherspoon8954]

@@kris78787 _"I can’t stand the smell of alcohol."_ Alcohol made from which plants do you not like? Agave--pulque (Mexico); tequila 2. Apple--cider 3. Barley--ale; porter; stout; kvass (Russia) 4. Corn--chicha (South America); whiskey; gin 5. Grapes--wine; brandy 6. Hops--ale; stout; weiss (Germany) 7. Millet--pombe (Africa) 8. Potato--vodka; aquavit (Scandinavia) 9. Rice--sake (Japan); oke (Hawaii) 10. Rye--kvass; whiskey 11. Sorghum--burukutu (Nigeria); kafir beer (South Africa) 12. Sugarcane--rum; oke 13. Wheat--weiss; vodka 14. Wormwood--absinthe

[@emc8021]

I married a man who never drank, not even as a teenager. We never had any form of alcohol in our home and raised our children not to drink (as I was raised). For some reason, after around 25 years of marriage (and I will tell you our marriage was a good one), I found out he’d been drinking hard liquor bc I discovered him so messed up during times of a family crisis when he was needed (such as in the middle of the night when he thought no one would know, or when I was suppose to be at work but would come home early unexpectedly, etc. ). Our marriage has deteriorated along with his health at an exasperating rate for the past 10+ years. For so long I could not figure out what in the world was going on with us! Or what it was going on with his health bc he’d always looked so much younger than his age, people unable to believe his age, but now he has literally aged and looks at least 10-15 years older than his age. I am certain all this is because of alcohol. I used to think it was ok to drink a glass of wine or a margarita when we went out to dinner occasionally. I’ve been a Christian many years, but I’d told myself that occasional social drinking was on. But now, I feel very differently. I admit , it didn’t really feel “wrong” for me to drink this occasionally, but then I began to see that nothing good ever comes from drinking alcohol! It’s not a good influence for anyone. It does nothing good for my body. It altars my thinking ability and actions. And, now that I see what it has done to my husband, his health, and my 42 year marriage that I thought should’ve been much more peaceful and happy. But instead we have been in the brink of divorce a few times. And I’m not sure we’re out of the woods yet, or ever will be as long as he continues choosing this alcohol. Please pray for him. He is a ch

[@emc8021]

He is a Christian, but this is his struggle and I know it is a spiritual warfare thing. Satan knew just when and where to set a trap for him (just as he knows this about every single one of us bc he’s been studying us human beings for millennia). And sadly, my husband got trapped in the enemy’s snare and it has destroyed sooooo much!! I ask for prayers from anyone enduring to read this king post. Thank you Tiff for this reaching! May God bless you. (I had to “reply” to finish this post bc the video ran out before I originally was able to finish☺️.)

[@EmeraldRainbowGLORY]

@@emc8021❤😊Wow dear sister in Christ and fellow servant of our Great God & Savior!!🛐✝️🫶🏻✨🌟✨🙏🏻All Glory to Abba Father, Son and Holy Spirit❤ May the most High bless you and keep you safe, make His Holy Face/Countenance to shine upon you and give you His Shalom💜💙 I'm very sorry for your husbands relapse/iniquity of drinking in secret and hiding his sin from you -his ❤wife of so many decades.....it makes me feel saddened for you, knowing what a blow it is to suddenly realize your longtime husband isn't the same as you thought he was. And especially to hear his consumption was in excess that caused drunkenness and all the behavior that follows one who has pickled their own brain....as Alcoholism actively done to extreme excess leads to blackouts, life changing poor decisions & putting oneself in situations with very dangerous people who prey upon the most vulnerable easy to assault victims they can find..... 😢🙏🏻🫶🏻🛐Folks, pray Almighty God will remove the strongholds of alcohol &/or drugs and have faith He will faithfully set you free!!! Praise Him all you Saints, Baruk & Yhlorify Extol His Name❤💫🌟

[@mariebaiz9375]

Praying, that your husband stops drinking and realizes what the devil is doing, killing-stealing-and destroying your lives. I pray those strongholds are loosed by the mighty power of Jesus, and that your lives and marriage are restored. In the NAME of Jesus!! Amen

[@shivli6088]

Thank you for this teaching. GOD bless and protect you Pastor Tiff and your family 🙏🙏🙏

[@Jackstar819]

Praise the Lord I no longer even like alcohol🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@johnnygoocher]

Amen

[@johnnygoocher]

Praise the lord

[@bmarkie4103]

I used to be a serious drinker for over 50 years but gave it up not for spiritual reasons but because I had enough. I haven't drank in about 5 years and have no intentions of drinking again. In regards to those recent studies claiming that just looking at a glass of wine will kill you,I don't pay any attention to them. One day they will come out with a study not to eat eggs, and just about every food you put in your mouth. Then in a month or two they come up with new study saying it's ok to eat those things the other study says not to eat.

[@kristinkjdub8439]

Why do many passovers include 4 glasses of wine? I’ve been to about 3 passovers and they drink a lot.

[@joshuaisrael2494]

He makes great points that are Biblically sound. One drink can easily lead to two or more. I hear moderation used but I believe we should use the word “sparingly” in drinking alcohol. I appreciate a great ale but if over 5%, I don't like it. Christmas time I might have spiced apple cider with bourbon but it’s diluted. Point is use sparingly and not everyday. Be well and blessed.

[@natalyd9674]

If fermentation involved sin, why did Jesus turn water into wine at the wedding at Cana which is a fermented beverage? And it definitely was wine because the host of the wedding said, "Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine. But you have kept the good wine until now."

[@matthewarnold5531]

I see no reply from the video producer, because they're incapable of giving a reasonable answer that doesn't disregard the facts that even ancient Mesopotamians were not only brewing strong drink, but also distilling it into high % alcoholic beverages back around 3500BCE

[@shivli6088]

@@matthewarnold5531your missing the point. It is unholy to consume alcohol. The Bible is full of verses reflecting this. If you are a Jesus believer, Jesus warned us to remain sober.. peace and grace 🙏

[@kevinwhelan8126]

As said in the video, that wine would have been diluted with water (three parts water to one part wine) giving an overall alcohol content of around 2 percent.

[@TacereM]

​@shivli6088 Then Jesus lead people to sin, which is itself a sin. Therefore Jesus is not sinless and is not the Messiah. Use your brain before you comment. God gave you one, use it correctly.

[@natalyd9674]

@@TacereM How about you PRAY for a brain, instead of making bizarre, inaccurate correlations to fit your finite understanding for everyone to see how foolish you are? There is a HUGE difference between drinking wine and DRUNKENESS. 1 Timmothy 5:23. The Holy Spirit gives us the gift of discernment which you clearly do not have. In all sincerity, pray for the Holy Spirit to indwell in you. The tribulation is going to be tough. May God have mercy on you. Good day.

[@jen7934]

Thankyou brother Tiff for speaking the truth……..as you always do! May you and your ministry of Lost Lamb prosper ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@theunknowncommenter725]

The book of John in the Bible records Jesus, God the Son, making wine. Naturally-occurring yeasts in grape juice will cause ferment, creating alcohol, if the juice is not pasteurised. Grapes will ferment on the vine naturally. So much so that almost all fruit juice (of any kind) made commercially has a tiny bit of alcohol in it. Alcohol is sign God loves us and want us to be happy.

[@Jenn_lookingup]

Very good teaching and background information to help Christians understand this principle. Thank you for addressing issues that many pastors avoid. 🙏

[@theunknowncommenter725]

The book of John in the Bible records Jesus, God the Son, making wine. Naturally-occurring yeasts in grape juice will cause ferment, creating alcohol, if the juice is not pasteurised. Grapes will ferment on the vine naturally. So much so that almost all fruit juice (of any kind) made commercially has a tiny bit of alcohol in it. Alcohol is sign God loves us and want us to be happy.

[@MissJonas]

Best explanation I've ever heard!

[@emc8021]

(Second comment here…) everything you said makes so much sense!

[@lesliesangle]

Thanks Tiff, I did not know any of this, Very interesting, Thanks for taking your time explaining…🕊

[@murielmartin3288]

This is so good and much needed.

[@daisydavis953]

I also have you on my Facebook thank you mr. you help me out a lot today 🙏 God bless you😊

[@ms.chrisie8040]

Tiff Shuttlesworth. Very unusual name right.

[@beverlyperry663]

Thank you so much for your teaching on wine.

[@claudettedickson5289]

Thank YOU

[@lorirobinson7650]

Can I get the Bible verses to support these statements so I can make notes please?

[@JMKrech]

This is such a great teaching!

[@Charlestonkayakandfishing]

Face it, there is nothing positive about alcohol.

[@twitherspoon8954]

It's delicious and relaxing.

[@Charlestonkayakandfishing]

@@twitherspoon8954 I’ll agree it is delicious 😂

[@kris78787]

@@twitherspoon8954 so is ice cream

[@tomwalker9184]

Alcohol is a Life wrecker, nothing good ever came from drinking alcohol.

[@twitherspoon8954]

@@tomwalker9184 _"Alcohol is a Life wrecker..."_ How so?

[@elvajaramillo3767]

Hello 👋 blessings to all 🙏 I'M one of those Christians you mentioned, since I started going to a Christian church, I stopped drinking and doing drugs, also being a provocative woman, I'm very passionate about wanting to learn and give my life to Jesus Christ mighty Lord and savior 🙏 I no longer go to the church I was going to I fear the pastor that was in charge of the church, did not have the holy Spirit in him 😢 didn't want to give bible studies, among other things that a true pastor's should teach, he just refused to teach me and other's The truth, which is the WORD'S of God 🙏 I have so much to say, I have no space on your page, I need help desperately I know I need Jesus Christ mighty Lord in my life and prayers like chain prayer's 🙏

[@userpup7417]

How did Noah become blind drunk if the wine was only 7% in alcohol content.

[@natalyd9674]

And why did Solomon differentiate between strong drink and wine in Proverbs 31:6?

[@userpup7417]

@@natalyd9674 exactly, the pastor was trying to say all wine was weaker in alcohol content in those days, yet Proverbs 31:6 proves that this statement isn't true. It seems Noah was partaking in the strong wine to become blind drunk.

[@matthewarnold5531]

Exactly. He's ignorant of ancient brewing technology, such as the Mesopotamians brewing and distilling to high % alcoholic drinks back in 3500BCE

[@yourpathwaytohealth9494]

I appreciate your sound teaching on this matter! I'm downloading this to pass on to people I love and care about. Thank you for living God's word and teaching us so thoroughly.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

The book of John in the Bible records Jesus, God the Son, making wine. Naturally-occurring yeasts in grape juice will cause ferment, creating alcohol, if the juice is not pasteurised. Grapes will ferment on the vine naturally. So much so that almost all fruit juice (of any kind) made commercially has a tiny bit of alcohol in it. Alcohol is sign God loves us and want us to be happy.

[@JoyRaptor]

New wine must be in new wineshins, why? FERMENTATION.

[@rosalindrobinson4219]

Amen. Loved this teaching 🙏🏽

[@elainecorrow3494]

Shalom brother Shuttlesworth. Maranatha Lord Yeshua come. I love ❤ you LORD ❤️ Yeshua.

[@TheMkbat]

I never like the taste of wine, but I only take red wine occasionally for my stomach. I don’t go overboard I take one small glass after eating steak and it’ soothes my stomach. I never got drunk in my entire life and I never will because I’m not wine is not my weakness the Bible specifically says drunkenness is a sin. If you’re the type that gets drunk, stay away from wine if you’re the type that is a weak to alcohol stay away from it. But everything in moderation is fine. There’s nothing wrong with eating Or having a glass of wine. If Jesus was so against wine he would have not have them preserve it and he told them to preserve it and put it in new bottles. Jesus made grapes and he knew the fermentation of a grape wine has benefits to it with anything you can make it a sin you can go overboard on eating or drinking and then you’re sitting against yourself. Also, it’s OK if you’ve never drink wine or beer if you feel that it’s a stumbling block to someone else, don’t drink a glass of wine in front of them. Yes, wine can make you drunk that’s only if you keep drinking it and it becomes a obsession but if you have control and God and you take a little for your stomach sake, it won’t hurt you it will help, but I respect the pastor and his right to do what is right for him and his children

[@BirdNatureView]

I agree!

[@louisepetrodelport7622]

Amen so true . May God bless His Word

[@raybrensike42]

If we think we are Christians we really must take heed to the teachings of the scripture. Luke 7:33, Matt 11:19, Rom 14:17.

[@darrenhankner5282]

I don't drink at all. it alters you judgements and behavior if gone too far.

[@pamelamckenzie5146]

If we question it at all, then why would we do it? Would we want to take even “a fraction” of a chance of opening the smallest crack to something that could separate us from God for all eternity. It’s just not worth it.

[@Moviessuk]

Thanks tiff…. This just makes me even more angry that my so called “christian” family members think its ok to drink every night & introduce alcohol to my young grandchildren. Parents are supposed to protect their God given children- not expose them to the wiles of the devil. They will choose friends and spouses based on these parameters. Do i keep my mouth shut??? What can i do besides fast and pray? I pray its not too late.

[@marleneholloway7775]

Same with me my son thought it was OK to give to small children...he knew my thoughts on alcohol. And he was very anoid with me...

[@dinahcalibo9586]

May this informative teaching be understood by my friends and relatives

[@raybrensike42]

Here is something I found on the internet: Adding sugar to unfirmented grape juice is illegal in California. I wonder if I should look up how much the alcohol content is of California wines. I wonder what would be so different between today's wines of California and wine made in Biblical days.

[@dkeener13]

Psalm 104 says God gave us wine to gladden the hearts of men, and at the wedding at Cana, the master of the feast tasted the wine Jesus made and said, "Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine. But you have kept the good wine until now." Neither of these stories make any sense whatsoever without referring to at least the mild intoxicating qualities of alcohol.

[@bustermaxey2977]

There is nothing positive about alcohol

[@matthewarnold5531]

Why does the psalmist day that alcoholic wine is a gift from God to cheer the heart?

[@theresasmith3824]

Thank you for your love ❤️❤️ in teaching us.god bless you

[@sherry41.]

If I go to a church and the pastor just recently said he & his wife drink wine & beer, I feel that I have to leave the church. Am I right?

[@brettthomas6327]

Great teaching 👍

[@JesusLordofmylife]

In addition, Some christians smoke and curse, Its seems as christians we should be separated from the worldly behaviors, we are not perfect,but we want to be more like our father God, he never do these behaviors.

[@BirdNatureView]

Good points! I think it's very good to think critically about this topic! I won't defend alcohol as it's obviously a dangerous thing. All who stay away are definitely smart. But I don't think everyone who drinks more than 2 glasses is immediately a drunkard. That's a bit harsh and simple I think. I would assume that the Bible would be way more clear on the subject if that were the case. People were drinking wine during the Last Supper and they were even drunk. Paul is judging the behaviour in that church, but he doesn't say that the alcohol itself was prohibited. I would assume that he would have wrote that and others would as well if alcohol wasn't allowed on the table of the Lord. I feel this is an important point which contradicts your views. The point about Jesus making wine is interesting. It was a custom to begin with the best wine. And when people were a bit drunk the worse quality was served. This we know for sure. Well if the best wines were served first and were without alcohol as you argue, they wouldn't be drunk in the first place! The whole point of wine without alcohol seems off to me. Than it's just a fruit juice. It's nice, but doesn't come near to the experience of the taste of good wines. (I don't drink it, I believe the experts on this ;)) Why is there even alcohol found in Gods Creation? Why does alcohol work on the human body and has it a relaxing and numbing effect, which sometimes is very good for people. For example when a tooth needs to be pulled withous anasthesia. I would drink a lot of wine before that was done, that's for sure :) I want to believe in the conclusion, but I just can't. It's based mainly on logical thinking (assumptions) and indirect evidence. The Bible doesn't state that it's good to drink alcohol. The Bible also nowhere states that alcohol is prohibited. What does that mean? You need to make sure you are using it responsible. For a lot of people worldwide that means not drinking it at all, which is obviously the better choice. You don't need the Bible to be very clear on this point as everyone should understand the big risks that go together with drinking alcohol. If christians are drinking alcohol sometimes in a responsible manner I don't think it's good or helpfull to judge it and make them feel bad or even scared that they will go to hell because of it. In the end I can still be wrong about this, which would be totally fine by me! I really appreciate all the content and sounds teachings. This was the first time I didn't fully agree!

[@marleymayfield2635]

I respectfully agree with your assessment. Have been a devout Christian for a very long time and know many people and pastors who Love the Lord dearly that drink wine in moderation. No way would the God I serve not spiritually convict if Hell was the destination, no way.

[@marleneholloway7775]

@@marleymayfield2635 using alcohol doesn't send you to hell. But it can be very dangerous...it's entirely addictive..

[@dianeaube4938]

It had to be strong enough to inspired proverb 23:29-35

[@cetheodule7504]

That was a great teaching ! Thank you pastor Tiff🙏🏽🙏🏽 I’ll certainly share this video.

[@EagerHornbill-ij4ip]

Fermentation in not always used with sin. Know your Bible!

[@libertymaria-0925]

Great teaching. I had a discussion abt this last week.

[@johngregory9504]

thank you Tiff being at great pains to make known God's will. Blessed are we, who by grace, who hear and do God's will.

[@daniellapadat6503]

Because the Bible says to come eat and drink before the Lord every time it says drink is referring to alcohol

[@DroppedYourSoul]

Proverbs 31:4-7 - It is not for kings, Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, not for rulers to crave beer, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed, and deprive all the oppressed of their rights. Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish! Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.

[@stevecampanelli6009]

His mother's opinion which is the context of that verses is not God speaking

[@KennethHunt-hp4vd]

Very enlightening great lesson😊

[@Adversary_Dwimmerlaik]

Fruit naturally ferments.

[@marmie2]

If wine is a poison, why would Jesus use wine as an element of his sacrificial blood?

[@maxGSgaming]

What kind of drink did cause Lot to become drunk.

[@graceheywood4163]

Thank you so much for this teaching. I have a better understanding of Biblical wine. Thank you again 🙏

[@Lisanne1]

Finally sanity about alcohol- thank you for this teaching!!! Hallelujah 🙌🏼🙏.

[@matthewarnold5531]

Unfortunately it's unbiblical, cherry picking verses which preclude those in numbers 6 and psalm 104 that tell us wine and strong drink (distilled, yes, they did that 3500 BCE) which allows it to be enjoyed responsibly. He's incorrect about ancient methods of fermenting wine, and about distillation being a medieval invention. Unfortunately he's peddling untruth, which if he can't be trusted in that, how can we trust him with the gospel and accept them as truths?

[@awesomefacepalm]

​@@matthewarnold5531this is what happens when an ideology overshadows one's study of God's word.

[@raybrensike42]

Something else comes to mind, an alcoholic named Glen. Rest his soul. He would drink a quart of vodka as most other people would drink maybe 5 beers in an afternoon at a table in the shade. I used to hang out with what I called moderate to heavy drinkers, but Glen was a full blown alcoholic. I saw him drink most of a quart of vodka (and he was at the table drinking before I got there) and then he left to drive home. He talked just fine and he walked just fine. I asked my friends if he can drive. They said I didn't have to worry about Glen. He's never had a DUI and likely never will. He drives just fine. He's pretty much built up an immunity to alcohol. I asked if he always drinks a full bottle of vodka in a day, and they said that he will likely drink most of another bottle that evening, or maybe the whole thing yet tonight at home. I don't believe the BAC laws are fair as we might think. However, it's likely about the best we can do. It's a good standard I think, but I do need to remember how people are different when it comes to alcohol. It's not really as fair as I might think. I do believe that. They say he would mix that powdered Kool-Aid in with the vodka. No water. He really drank the Kool-Aid. Sometimes I wonder "What is intoxicated?" Well there are some guidelines and there are noticeable symptoms.

[@marleneholloway7775]

Many alcoholics never look intoxicated.. .they have a high tolerance....but tolerance can fall.....

[@marleneholloway7775]

My father never looked intoxicated. But he died of alcohol liver disease...he was a drip drip drip drinker. Intravenous drinker...

[@patrickcoyne9333]

John 2:1-11. Jesus, along with His mother (John 2:1) and disciples (John 2:2), was invited to a wedding, in Cana of Galilee. When they ran out of wine (John 2:3), Jesus turned water into wine (John 2:7-10).

[@discoveringthei]

The radical differences in potency don't matter. You can't claim the bible to be the word of God and then maintain that it was blindsided by men creating more potent alcohol. The bible makes clear statements against being drunk and inebriated as you point out, which then covers all forms of intoxicants. It allows for you to drink alcohol, doesn't allow for you to be inebriated. It's far harder to get inebriated with the way they did it, but obviously, there were men and women of the time, who would drink undiluted wine, and act up, and become drunk, thus God instructing people to stay sober minded. Christ first miracle was making Wine At A Wedding! Taste, or not taste, he was giving wine at a celebration. This is where moderation goes. This is why the bible never says do not drink Alcohol and do maintains do not be inebriated. It could be 150% alcohol. It Doesn't Matter! What you skipped of Christ words are when he speaks to the pharisees: Christ says clearly that one is not to concern themselves with what goes into their mouths, for that doesn't defile a person, but what comes out of it; that defiles a person. When inebriated or drunk, your ability to control what comes out of your mouth is hindered, thus the ban on inebriation. Not alcohol. And I don't drink. I hate alcohol. I've watched so many people die from alcohol in my work that I think it's a poison. But you're trying to make a case for some sort of biblical standard that isn't there. If you want to argue that alcohol is a slippery, unhealthy slope, that Christians would be best not traveling down. I 100% agree. When you're trying to say that the bible cares what you put into your mouth and into your body, Jesus Christ makes clear, it doesn't. You give great points on why alcohol doesn't serve Christians and why they shouldn't partake, but trying to make a biblical case out of it only creates a disingenuous and unbiblical narrative.

[@wasblindbutnowsee]

The Bible says that on appointed feast days, you drink as much alcohol as you dare to in front of your of your relatives

[@sherryparkhurst5251]

If people exercised self discipline, things would be different. Gluttony is sinful and over indulging will cause us to sin. Better to leave it alone than risk becoming addicted. One of the fruits of the spirit is SELF CONTROL.

[@nvjoseph9001]

Not consuming Alcohol is sublime for true belivers, but mild driling at home is not a sin against sGod..

[@sarahall7161]

Very interesting, thank you tiff

[@oldhickory4686]

I challenge anyone involving subjects like this to examine themselves and their own hearts. Is your desire to obey God and His Word, and do according to His will, or is it to do as you please and say how you think things should be? If it is the latter, please remove yourself from the Christian religion, and stop referring to yourself as one. I could care less how you want to live, but don't bring shame to God's Holy name by your lifestyle choices! Romans 2:24 KJV For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.”

[@pocketlegion]

1: Xtian claim: 'Jesus turned water into wine'. This works in Hebrew and in English translations. The requirement of of 'interpretation' would mean this book is not 'the perfect word of god'. 2: Xtian claim: '100% of all wine and alcohol is manufactured by fallen men'. All fruit in nature naturally converts sugar and left in common environments, produces alcohol. This is common place.

[@patrickcoyne9333]

When fruit falls onto the ground and ferments, that’s the devil?

[@murielmartin3288]

Great Teaching.

[@hazelarmstrong8204]

Amazing teaching 🙏🙏

[@aldafiedler2180]

Thank you, brother Tiff, for the sincerity on preaching about the alcohol, God bless you more and more 🙏 💕

[@TiffShuttlesworth]

Thank you Alda!

[@joselemuelurbano6224]

but jesus drink alcohol together with his apostle even in weddings john 2:11 jesus drink alcohol so there is no bad in drinking alcohol then you should not also eat pork and any seafoods without fins you see if you want to be sinless you should follow all the commandment of jewish you law from birth until death because if you break one law you break it all james 2:10

[@patriciahernandez2903]

Thank you 😊

[@margaretgraham95]

Jesus would never have drunk alcohol. If John the Baptist was told not to drnik how much more would jesus not drink

[@stevecampanelli6009]

Deuteronomy 14 26 read it god told the entire nation to buy strong drink and wine did god sin? Most of you are former alcoholics and in your feelings when you comment

[@EmeraldRainbowGLORY]

@@stevecampanelli6009❤Thank you kind brother for sharing this verse and your comment enlightened me more than any other in this lesson. Abba knows my heart❤ and soul/life traumas and history. None of us are perfect, I do my very best to live by the 10 commandments and Messiahs commands to love God first, above all...& ❤love all others with the same Agape love that Christ has for humanity🙏🏻🫶🏻

[@stevecampanelli6009]

@@margaretgraham95 he directly told you he drank and compared himself to John who didn't 😆

[@derondadozier1938]

Can u speak on once saved always saved an how do u know your saved

[@alexsierra5991]

Lets say yes the wine 🍷 back in the days when our Lord walked the earth was not the same as todays wine. Then why was there warnings about Drunkenness in the Old Testament and throughout the Bible meaning they can still get drunk regardless of the wine Alcohol volume. Also Jesus first miracle was he turned water into Wine 🍷 and it was the BEST Wine 🍷 so people at the wedding had drank up all the wine and Jesus made more Wine the Best Wine so that means they where having a great time right?

[@lindaliew2312]

👍❤.... TQsomuch Pastor Tiff 🙏❤.... You are a good and genuine Pastor 🙏❤.... May the good LORD continue to Bless, keep, love and protect you and your ministry and all yours AMEN AMEN AND AMEN 🙏❤🙏❤🙏❤

[@sigawsapulpito5455]

Amen! Very clear teaching about this topic...NO TO SOCIAL DRINKING...

[@koolkatfelix9500]

Most people follow Jesus as HE turned water into wine!

[@rebeccaharwelladamission4619]

I appreciate you speaking what the Bible says Iam concerned on what does that mean a person who drinks can’t be saved ? Cause if it’s a sin And some one gets saved bit struggles with alcohol Or chooses to drink cause they didn’t feel it was wrong God can take away his salvation ? I hope not 😢

[@TiffShuttlesworth]

I never said, nor does the Bible say that a person who drinks can not be saved. It says no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.

[@rebeccaharwelladamission4619]

Ok thanks for explaining Love all your teaching Learning more every day

[@authenticchristianityminis4109]

Amen!

[@douglaidlaw740]

Well, Jesus turned water into wine. Why was that disregarded? Because it was Jesus who did it? Again, Paul mentions drunkenness at the early Communion feasts. Neither tea nor coffee had been discovered. Wine was the normal drink.

[@sarahall7161]

I’m from West Virginia too, my dad made moonshine

[@Lisanne1]

Common wine 2-2/4%

[@matthewarnold5531]

That's a made up "fact" which bears no resemblance to the biblical wine which can get a person drunk and is a gift from God to cheer the heart if used responsibly.

[@ElginRobert]

Jesus 👏 made 👏 alcohol 👏

[@celestinacarpio7393]

Amen

[@loversLorraine]

I believe today there's more chemicals and alcohol wine beer in the old days it was just fruit just grapes they didn't add anything cuz they didn't have anything to add to it but today that had a lot more chemicals and the stuff today that's my belief

[@RayStrangis]

Thank you for exposing this ….. I love the Lord….

[@LouiA1]

I grew up and live in the Napa Valley. Fine wine is typically 8% to 13% You keep Saying that you stick to the Bible - yet you bring up other sources for how much they diluted it. Show me a verse in the Bible that specifically calls for said dilution. I agree that we should not drink to drunkenness - The other thing you fail to mention is that they drank it in place of water. So they consumed way more than you might think. Just be honest. Don’t play around with your saying that you only discuss what the Bible says.

[@LouiA1]

I need to add: I’m very concerned with how people worship wine

[@X23Ninja]

Jesus turned Water in Wine so I guess he didn't have a problem with it

[@snoyes5687]

Boy, try and find someone today who doesn’t drink. Drugs and alcohol are so prevalent in society today. 😫