A Guide to Doping in Football

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“Footballers have absolutely nothing to gain from taking drugs” former FIFA President Sepp Blatter once said. So why then is there such a history of players taking banned substances?
What is doping? Why does it happen? And what are the highest-profile instances?
Written by Nick Harris, illustrated by Henry Cooke
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[@kishoreg6078]

If Sepp Blatter says anything, isn't the opposite almost automatically true? 🤣

[@STEFINHO02]

Listen Germany 7-1 Brazil DOPING AND BAYERN 8-2 BARCA DOPINGGGGG IN GERMANY

[@ChamMSB]

A broken clock is right twice a day

[@faelger9473]

exactly...hes practically the OPPOSITE of the encyclopedia. He ONLY opens his mouth when he wants to make people aware of the opposite of what is true ^^nice joke :P

[@kristi4113]

That’s exactly what I was thinking.

[@Th3Illegal]

@@STEFINHO02 orrrrr their tactics were better and also their players (both sides teams had players with great chemistry whereas Barcelona were on a downhill and Brazil lost their main attacker)

[@lenin17301560]

2:57 As a Manchester United fan, I can confirm that Fred is currently completely clean, he has had ABSOLUTELY no enhanced performances in the pitch in years.

[@chombus2602]

😂

[@linolingelbach2214]

I'm dying 🤣🤣

[@tevezskeen]

United bought him based on his performance on these PEDs, now he isn't taking them anymore he's useless.

[@miljandjuric7663]

This week match against Saints says it all.

[@evansonwaithaka8744]

Glorious comment. Never liked Fred in our midfield. How about teams using PEDs just to ramp up players' performances and their transfer fees as well?!

[@_AIAH_]

It's the quality and level of research that makes Tifo the best football channel on KZbin

[@brownboyyy]

*laughs in HITC Sevens*

[@utsavlal9175]

True..check out athletic interest

[@brownboyyy]

@@utsavlal9175 great channel too, love their content and animation

[@karimd88]

James Alcott is up there

[@utsavlal9175]

@@karimd88 ?

[@sizwe.amabaso732]

Bayern players: get super jacked Tifo football: doping in football

[@hotsot67]

there's no way to keep all that mussle mass with all the cardio football players do

[@MaxwellAyo]

@@hotsot67 The problem is not keeping the muscle mass. Those players are actually not massive compared to the regular natty gym goer. It's about how quickly they gain the muscle mass, attaining what would probably be a year of pre-peak progress in 3 months.

[@wxhalex3026]

@@MaxwellAyo more like 3+years after the nooby gain .

[@hotsot67]

@@MaxwellAyo wells yes but average bodybuilder won't do 1/10 of the football players do something isn't right Atalanta players in Italy too they went from unknown to champions league and all players when they left atalanta didn't do as well after or got injured

[@MaxwellAyo]

@@wxhalex3026 Lol, yes, I was thinking Nooby gains , a lot of footballers don't do hypertrophy training. Combined with the amount of cardio they do, most of them are nowhere near their genetic limit unlike an experienced lifter, hence my thought process.

[@castle273]

modern football is played at an insane pace and top teams have 2-3 games a week + training. if you don’t believe doping is widespread, you are just naive or ignorant. there is too much money on the line to not use PEDs to get any kind of edge.

[@elnikaco]

TU I didnt believe it until I saw ur post, srry if that makes me a naive ignorant!

[@Bear-rm4xl]

Surely not

[@Bear-rm4xl]

At least one person would feel bad and speak out surely And plus these are elite athletes

[@gottmttunsk3502]

​@@Bear-rm4xl hopelessly naive my friend. precisely because they are elite athletes they have the desire to win at any cost, and would never dare or want to speak up. furthermore, if it's so widespread, they wouldn't see it as cheating, simply as competing on equal footing. it's in part the fault of the fans. we desire inhuman accomplisment and then shame athletes when they reach for ways to transcend their human limits. it doesn't take away from their achievements tbh, they're still the best of the best. it's not a magic pill

[@Prederick]

@@gottmttunsk3502 Yeah, even the sports that are notorious for drug use, the number of people who spoke out about it while playing can be counted on one hand. Whistleblowers are rare.

[@MisterSpinalzo]

Just imagine all the anti depressants Arsenal players must be on

[@mihneaiordan1813]

@VIHAN KRISHNA vicious cycle: do poorly - > take antidepressants - > get high - > do poorly

[@fayzaansayed3898]

@@mihneaiordan1813 clean observation

[@furiousscotsman2916]

Aged like milk .

[@Brez808]

This aged well didn't it??

[@PotentialGaming]

🤣🤣🤣 man u now

[@drex5160]

"Doping rates highest in Germany and Spain" **BAYERN MUNICH SWEATING INTENSIFIES**

[@dhiabvaheed284]

the transformations are unreal ngl

[@nashequalizer8836]

Have you seen Alphonso Davis? He gain like 10-15 pounds of muscle mass in no time.

[@Iamamogh123]

groetzka, davies,sane

[@eiskaltertorjaeger]

Its ridiculous how nobodoy in Germany starts asking questions about Goretzka, Coutinho, Davies etc. Especially Goretzka gained like 10 or 15 pounds of lean muscle in 2 Months where he couldnt be tested because of Covid 19. Its just beyond mental how this stupid club doesnt get punished for obvious doping

[@youtubenamebad4259]

@@eiskaltertorjaeger i’m far from a Bayern fan so it’s not bias on my part. But the chances any club reports another is slim because you can bet they’re all at it. And the chances the league/FIFA want to bring sanctions against a team like Bayern is really slim. The leagues/FIFA all want that squeaky clean image, it’s one of the big reasons Italian football fell off after the Juventus scandal.

[@garymurden6146]

Pep being banned was a massive story at the time, with him claiming his innocence, and the test results painting a different story.

[@Stegibbon]

If you think his Barcelona, Bayern and City teams aren't all on it too then you're mad. He's had the very same doctor that got him banned at every club he's managed.

[@dzemilmehovic5271]

@@Stegibbon yea and all these clubs play same week in week out abit too dominantly, even Klopps BVB couldnt match his Bayern with intensity, not even close

[@Stegibbon]

@@dzemilmehovic5271 cos klopp just uses inhalers whereas Pep's injecting them up to the eyeballs.

[@anditard]

What do you think about man city players today? . I think they use dope too

[@maxine2798]

If it’s not medicinal doping, it’s financial doping. And hiding the evidence. To cheat Once may be regarded as a misfortune; to cheat twice looks like carelessness. Citeh- what a lovely bunch to work for. Makes you understand why pep-pill is happy to do so

[@jackmiller-johnston8689]

Football's biggest smoking gun is widespread doping. The sheer naivety among fans and people within the game about this is alarming to say the least

[@kylemutti2992]

Who really cares? They play 2-3 games a week. You want them to play an abnormal amount of games but heal normally. Doesn’t work like that bud let em dope

[@mr.talldarkandhandsome4111]

@@kylemutti2992 This guy! 😂

[@peteredeoghon6457]

@@kylemutti2992 That's actually kinda true

[@peteredeoghon6457]

@@kylemutti2992 That's actually kinda true

[@luketonkinson5440]

@@kylemutti2992 The solution isn't to allow or turn a blind eye to doping, it's to cut the amount of games.

[@Ayo.Ajisafe]

Thank you. Football fans are completely in denial about this. "No sporting advantage."🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Stegibbon]

- "No sporting advantage" - Entire sport begins aggressive pressing every single game. - "Oh"

[@Ayo.Ajisafe]

@@Stegibbon Christiano puts on muscle and becomes the best player in the world.

[@MisterSpinalzo]

the whole sport and its tactics hinge on the fact wether or not player A can outrun or outmuscle player B. To say doping doesn't give a competitive advantage in football is just ridiculous

[@derektaylor7613]

It's naive to think there isn't doping in football. Growing up in 90s I remember players dropping like flies with cramp during extra time......now players can easily perform to near peak levels for 120 minutes

[@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556]

@@derektaylor7613 Older generations players were tougher tho and werent flopping and crying like fishes.

[@TheAnfieldLark]

It started with a bit of nandrolone and later Guardiola progressed to the really hard stuff like full backs

[@AwesomeGrandpaDave]

"because in contrast to other sports, they need a vast array of qualities and skills to succeed in the game" * proceeds to list at least 3 qualities you can absolutely take doping for *

[@shauwengchee]

As a pharmacy student, I'm lovin this

[@kieronparr3403]

As a pharmacy student you can sign up to The Athletic today.

[@shauwengchee]

@@kieronparr3403 Hahaha I'm already a subscriber

[@karimd88]

@@shauwengchee of TIFO Football yeah, but you can now start a 30 day trial of the Athletic for free!

[@chinonsochukwu5259]

@@karimd88 ...for less than £1 per month

[@GuinessOriginal]

Money to be made there kid

[@nobody.123]

It’s incredible the number of 30+ year old players who suddenly become competitive again…

[@jackmiller-johnston8689]

Remember "The Lab" of AC Milan?

[@stevengallagher9638]

James Milner. Juicing no doubt

[@edwardelric717]

Ibrahimovic, Ronaldo, Milner, the list is endless. You can see in the way their body is changed and shaped how much drugs they are on.

[@khldwb1425]

@@edwardelric717 are you accusing Cristiano Ronaldo of doping...?

[@edwardelric717]

@@khldwb1425 he is.

[@fandcljosh]

Nasri and the Drip Doctor, what a day on twitter that was

[@callmewisdom]

I love the argument that there is no doping in football because there are just too many atributes needed to be good at it (almost all of which could be enhanced by doping)

[@rumham4766]

yep on top of being able to train longer due to enhanced recovery and also less injuries and quicker injury recovery times

[@superkingdestroyer0075]

Increased strength - TRT Increased endurance - EPO + iron Increased speed and decreases injury risk - HGH Increased reaction time - amphetamines

[@Jetdonk3y]

That’s not true, try to become more technical by using drugs, oh wait you cant

[@callmewisdom]

@@Jetdonk3y But you become more technical by training more, and the right drugs help you not only to do that directly, but also to spend lesstime on the mandatory fitness training. Of course drugs are no substitute for talent, but they are a great facilitator, and between two similary talented players the using drugs will always have a huge advantage.

[@victoriap1561]

it will help you but not nearly as much as it would in cycling or athletics

[@aaroncottam]

The PES players on the mugshots, nostalgia

[@BestMoments--vf3xt]

Fr

[@Trumbot]

From my experiences coaching them for many years, over many PES games, I can honestly attest that there's no way they were using performance enhancing drugs. I called that ML squad the "Stumbly Wumblies".

[@Ginga]

Espimas 🐐

[@amiel3159]

Ruskin 🐐

[@DrMacca]

SLANDER!!!!

[@matthewbugeja8398]

Blood boosters increase the chance that a player suffers a cardiac arrest, quite significantly in fact. That is why when players like Eriksen collapse on the field, with 'no previously known medical conditions' as Spurs had stated, makes it look extremely suspect that he is in fact being doped.

[@jackmiller-johnston8689]

And if it's Spurs who are doping him and not the Danish setup, imagine what an independent medical investigation into each PL club would uncover. Would probably destroy the Premier League

[@jackmiller-johnston8689]

@F Reader Italian sports and doping...shocker. Eriksen's technical and mental attributes are off the charts and was a pleasure to watch for you guys. Being a Sunderland fan, would love to eventually see someone like him running the show for us. Aw well

[@alanmoore291]

@@jackmiller-johnston8689 they won't, never, ever do it. They can't!

[@alanmoore291]

But it wasn't doping. It was covid, vaccines, good cpr, the need for good cpr, my Auntie's cat. Not a single journo, including the "brains" behind this video raised a single eyebrow or question.

[@thomrik]

@F Reader dont think drugs will only make you super fast or super jacked. We could be talking drugs that increase focus, we could be talking drugs to better muscle recovery and endurance

[@archieman123]

Russia at the 2018 WC was soo blatant, running 1-2km more per player than any other team

[@officerk8697]

It was fun to watch though

[@BillShatner31]

Putin likely orchestrated it himself. Just look at the Sochi Olympics and Russia’s subsequent Olympic ban.

[@Me-ui1zy]

At least Russia will be banned at the next world cup but i bet all their players will still go. No need to dettatch themselves from doping in the past.

[@Me-ui1zy]

@@BillShatner31 it wasnt on olympic ban. It was a international sports ban. If they qualify for Qatar, they wont be able to call themselves Russia or use the Russian flag.

[@dutchmilk]

-_-

[@TheCatDrinksAllTheRedBull]

Because we should all listen to Sepp Blater and his opinions on what is good and bad in football

[@kohchungwei]

2:47 - Real ones remember all the details of Samir Nasri's case 😂😅

[@oibara2]

loool his twitter war with his gf

[@GuinessOriginal]

@@oibara2 she was fit

[@youtubenamebad4259]

Real ones were on Twitter as it was happening 👀

[@alexcipolla1067]

something sketchy in Football. Juventus enters the chat!

[@regulatorsmountup4931]

PEDs aren’t “sketchy” they’re just vilified because of the war on drugs and lack of education on the topic. The line between PED and supplement is totally arbitrary at the best of times

[@George-gg4pb]

@@regulatorsmountup4931 bruh, use of PEDs in competitive sports is prohibited and rightly so.

[@regulatorsmountup4931]

@@George-gg4pb rightly so because?

[@PepTalkTillYouDrop]

​@@regulatorsmountup4931 rightly so because it gives athletes an unfair advantage. Also, side effects of these PEDs especially anabolic steroids are scary. Besides, it undermines the credibility of the sport and the athletes while also setting a dangerous precedent for athletes because you're basically allowing athletes to cheat each other.

[@labibchowdhury5558]

Can you guys make a video about Sheriff Tiraspol if they qualify for UCL? Would like to know a bit about their history and Moldovan football

[@bilalahmedshariff5576]

Yess, I agree

[@Brotbart]

Former KGB-Agents create a wonderfully prosperous supermarket-chain in a post-Soviet quasi-dictatorship and use that money to fuel a tiny club to go to the UCL from a completely irrelevant league? 100% legit business practices guaranteed.

[@kiria1975]

Have you watched HITC Sevens' video on Sheriff? If not, check it out.

[@badmanp5177]

I remember when my team: F.C. Copenhagen played them in the Europa League. Such an interesting club and place. Would love to know more

[@Stegibbon]

Check out HITC sevens, I'm sure he did a video on Moldova

[@gentleken7864]

Stanley Matthew's use of anphetamines only became noticeable when he was seen still dancing to the entrance music for his team, also loss of appetite, mouth ulcers and button mushroom winky.

[@Stegibbon]

And playing til he was 50 lol

[@maxine2798]

Didn’t he put a donk on it?

[@danielbowers8124]

Clubs have whole departments dedicated to getting the most out of players and pushing them further and further. Sports science. While obviously they try do it within the rules I imagine they’d also try and outsmart the rules to and work around them. Especially in Italy where they basically get away with everything and can somehow get more out of their older players than anywhere else can

[@giacomon3y]

I also want to wonder what caused a fit Eriksen to have a heart attack at the Euros? Additionally, there’s has been so much controversy surrounding the Spanish doctor serving the 2008-2012 Spanish teams (Fuentes). It’s also not a secret that so many athletes are using pain killers and etc that wouldn’t be accepted by other sports regulations.

[@gadget00]

I’ve had the suspicion for a few years that Bayern Munich was doping its players, but like Blatter I also kept saying myself “but you still can’t win only with doping; it may not do a difference anyway because is a team sport”. After watching this, I’m absolutely convinced at the very least Goretzka and Lewandoski are doped from head to toe; that massive body change is not normal. Goretzka is even starting to develop baldness for Christs sake and he’s not even 30! As we say in spanish: “I have no proof, but also no doubts”

[@youtubeuser6299]

Im balding at 16 years old, definitely possible

[@pascal9055]

Lewan? And have you seen my team? Half the time we wander around the field with barely any motivation. I predict we will collapse in the UCL again. I wish we doped sometimes…

[@gadget00]

@@youtubeuser6299 but unlike you (maybe; I had friends that had receding hair lines in senior year in high school) he's developing a balding pattern associated with steroid use, which is the hole in the "crown" of the head. That pattern before 30 is very suspicious if not just "not normal"

[@meatiesogarcia6478]

It's everywhere. Ramos tested positive in a UCL final, nothing happened. I'm pretty sure Ortega has been giving PED in Atleti for a decade (how those players were able to play that intense in 2014 those many games is beyond human), it's no coincidence Pintus makes every team he goes a winner, with Modric 37 years old defending this world cup with more intensity than anyone else in that team. And let's no forget Operación Puerto, in Eufemiano Fuente's office they found many bags of blood, not only from cyclists but football and tennis players as well. I'm pretty sure the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo or Rafa Nadal are on something, that is just no humanly possible. Many Serie A players back in the 70s and 80s were on drugs, they said that themselves. And they played half the matches than today and with less intensity. One of them, I don't remember the name, said something of the like "we were on it playing 40 matches a year like Fiat 500. Now they play doble those games like Ferraris. What do you think?" The question isn't if football players take PEDs. The question is how much, the game demands it and either you take them or you don't play even 2ªB.

[@backlahce]

Just look at Leon Goretzka gaining massive lean muscle mass while maintaining the same cardio performance in less than a year

[@dzemilmehovic5271]

tbh its not in less than a year, pic of skinny him ppl mostly use for comparison is from 2018, however he still is very sus imo

[@eiskaltertorjaeger]

@@dzemilmehovic5271 dude, Goretzka hat an average physique in january and came back as an monster athlete in march/april. its not sus, its obvious doping noone questions

[@dzemilmehovic5271]

@@eiskaltertorjaeger if you watched him from before, or just check his IG, you would see you are wrong, he didnt have "average phisique" in January, he was already big by then, he was already getting bigger in august year before when season was beggining. That "average phisique" pic i guess you mean the one they use in his transformation "then" and "now" pic right? well thats year or 2 yrs before he got jacked. Im not saying he doesnt take anything he prolly did, im just saying he didnt get big so fast

[@alexjwand]

The one that is more sus recently is seeing Alphonso Davies mutate over a summer.

[@anditard]

@@alexjwand ye alp davies is a sus.

[@Beeady]

One day we'll find out that Leicester's shock PL win was because their doping shipment was mistakenly swapped with Chelsea's.

[@andymacdonald9494]

100%. The only thing it had in common with a 'fairytale' was that it wasn't real 32 year old Wes Morgan recording record sprint speeds, whole squad going from recording the lowest running distances to 2nd highest in the league virtually overnight. The EPL had no incentive to ever expose it though, was great for the 'greatest league in the world' narrative

[@fangdog29]

​@@andymacdonald9494 tbf, refereeing in that season was shocking. Absolutely handed the title on a plate to Leicester. So many undeserved penalties that won them games and so many opponents robbed of penalties. If you can do anything you want to in the box, your defenders will shut out goals.

[@freddiecobb7441]

i always knew something was up with the Russian National Team in the 2018 World Cup

[@RohitKumar-hi4qf]

Spain was robbed!!!

[@shambhav9534]

They were playing in their country when others were visiting a weird country. It's like a huge home advantage. Nothing too crazy. And what do drugs even do in football? Increase speed, stamina and strength. That's it. Those qualities alone can't win you anything.

[@JR-mk6ow]

@@RohitKumar-hi4qf Spain shouldn't be complaining considering their past 'allegations'

[@andreatommasi3287]

@@shambhav9534 If you're tired or if you're not fast you can't use your technical skills as good, and pretty physical players in lower leagues can get a huge advantage. Technical abilities and strategies still play a big role in football and that's why I follow this sport and not cycling or weightlifting; but drugs do make the difference

[@RohitKumar-hi4qf]

@@shambhav9534 they can, Ronaldo does not have the skills of Saint Allan maximin but I would bet my life of him scoring more goals because of better concentration, speed, and strength. .

[@DegAlien]

I was trying to dope myself for a while, thanks for putting this together!

[@ssidhantt]

Someone's got to raid Bayern ASAP

[@kohchungwei]

Lol

[@aadas281]

Nah fr tho

[@braddlesharris3577]

They're 100% doping if guys in the ufc can get past USADA than anyone can get past the lazy testing in football.

[@gunshotNrun]

that explains goretzka's body transformation from skinny kid to big buff man so quickly

[@christianopulinaldo8319]

Cheats

[@MKQ19]

Weren't the all the players names at the mugshot scene from the PES game where Adriano was insane? I swear seeing Valeny and Espimas at Merseyside Red.

[@TheFahmi97]

They're Master League Team's player iirc. I know for certain that Valeny and Espimas is.

[@FootballDrawn]

As an amature endurance athlete, I've seen my fair share of doping in sports, done by minority. I can imagine what goes on when there's millions of Euros involved. The only way is more frequent blood testing, even though that won't solve the problem to 0%, it goes a long way. ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽

[@moumenrezaei1330]

indeed

[@kidpagronprimsank05]

It can be cheated. Look operation Aderlaas. Even with biological passport, it's can still be cheated

[@FootballDrawn]

@@kidpagronprimsank05 indeed it can be cheated, as we see in Olympics. However, it does put 1 more hurdle to overcome.

[@7bucksnutrition303]

love your content mate

[@FootballDrawn]

@@7bucksnutrition303 thanks alot dude. really appreciate it :))

[@RussBrown]

I think both the graphics department and the TIFU lawyers deserve a shout-out for this one.

[@RustyAymes]

It’s all about marginal gains these days. Guarantee most top clubs have been involved in this regularly (probably with the use of loopholes). I think this is your best quality video so far guys

[@alexluckoo55]

This is the format of videos that makes Tifo great . It’s concise, comprehensive and almost soothing to listen to

[@ianor2304]

When the ‘Doping in Football’ story breaks it’s gonna be huge!

[@edwardelric717]

No it won't. As long as football fans refuse to question their teams nothing will happen.

[@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740]

So, hold up, Nasri got an 18 month ban for a drip of water & nutrients, more than any other on the list, except for Abel Xavier, who popped for steroids? Does.. No one else find that absolutely absurd?

[@onyekaobilo]

THANK YOU!!! I'm here wondering why that's even a problem...500ml is standard treatment for dehydration so I don't see what's wrong in getting an infusion of electrolytes if you're dehydrated as a result of something like say, severe diarrhea from a stomach bug! That's not going to give you a competitive edge; it'll just save your life.

[@LucasOliveira-tt2ll]

So Valeny played doped, that's why he was performing nice even though he was old when we get to use him on Master League

[@TechManWill]

Over half of Liverpool’s players are “asthmatic”… makes you wonder!

[@manlet437]

Truth

[@2shmad2k10]

Proven fake story

[@BT-kc3ee]

@@2shmad2k10 nope it's 100% true

[@karl343]

Klopp is well known for doping. He does a three season on, one season off. That's why Liverpool got so many injuries last season, during their off season. They're back on the dope this season, you can see it in their higher intensity pressing than last season.

[@KTK44]

@@karl343 Hahah, one thing's for sure, you're definitly on drugs.

[@franoburjan1590]

Finally thank you! God knows how many times I tried to explain this to people. By the way I m holding a congress speaking to students of physiotherapy on this subject because I myself am interested by this topic. I’m have a bachelors degree in kinesiology and soon in physiotherapy

[@Israr_ahmad17]

Brilliant voice and the quality of the videos in tifo football is something that no football channel have.

[@kohchungwei]

Surprised they didn't mention Andre Onana in this video

[@user-pk4dk8fx9n]

Yea, thought he’d get mentioned when it moved onto the “banned stimulants” section

[@kieronparr3403]

Yeah he's the most recent

[@lionheart3429]

The substance he got caught with literally is stupid that he got banned. It holds no performance enhancement in anyway

[@lonestarr1490]

@@lionheart3429 But it's on the list of cover ups, if I remember correctly.

[@lexov7981]

Blood boosters like EPO is almost certainly rampant in football. It’s the most effective for football and also the one most difficult to test for. Currently rampant in boxing and MMA right now, and the way pressing has become such a thing is so suspect to me.

[@AlLuiPigus]

Thank you Tifo for this material. I've read a lot about doping and it is widely practiced in football, it is just the Omerta that keeps things quiet. Even Zinedine Zidane was linked to having blood oxygenation procedures back in the day when he was playing for Juventus I remember.

[@devshekhawat7]

Zizu even "suggested" the treatment to Ronaldo while coaching because of all the benefits

[@dzemilmehovic5271]

well ofc he took something at Juve, look at him he lost hair as soon as he joined them lol, while their whole midfield got grey hair, Jugović was 26 yrs old in 1996 and looked like he was 40, even tho he was literally known as baby face and kid at Crvena Zvezda and Sampdoria before(check him out from then, it seems its 10-15 yrs space between him at Zvezda and Sampdoria and Juve lol)

[@Jetdonk3y]

Nah no one uses it

[@FThisW]

Phenomenal reporting. What a channel! Thank You 🙏

[@theshore78]

Ever since the 1996 UCL Final between Ajax and Juventus, I have always assumed that if things smell fishy, then it usually is... And if you look at the recent re-hiring of Riccardo Agricola by Juventus, you must always be suspicious of a pervasive drug culture continuing in football.

[@jari7342]

@Michael Jordan almost the entire juve team was on doping

[@theshore78]

@Michael Jordan Google Riccardo Agricola for a start, so I am not saying anything too libelous. I remember that I had never seen a football team so fresh in any final before. Especially when I remember one of the great 90's teams (Ajax) looking totally knackered. It was like seeing Dorian Yates' back for the first time!

[@fpupesh]

just remember sterling's body when he left liverpool in june and his body when he started his first game for city in august.

[@Stegibbon]

The Pep effect 💉

[@damianstarr1696]

He was signed under pellegrini…

[@bluerhumba1753]

Don’t mention Klopp’s asthma sufferers who out-ran, out-jumped & out-intensified all opponents for 18 months solid with remarkably few injuries. 63% of the squad registered as asthmatic. I recall boxing pundit Paulie Mallianagi being asked about Manny Pacquiao & his ability to maintain his punching power through several weight divisions & into old age, “If it looks too good to be true, it usually is”.

[@castle273]

steve peters works with liverpool and he is coincidentally heavily involved in cycling which is the king of doping lol

[@alanmoore291]

It's the wet dream of the Daily Mail, they won't mention anything dirty in England (current) because it's only those foreigners who are at it

[@Stegibbon]

And they didn't mention that Pep still uses the doctor that got him banned at all the clubs he's managed.

[@ehmonja]

As magical as it was for Leicester to win the league i always questioned the ridiculously high levels of fitness all their players had that year.

[@ehtlamzone2525]

And then look at all the bigger clubs, they have to be doing something mad

[@jackmiller-johnston8689]

Sure there was an article in the Daily Mail during that season that linked drug use to Arsenal and Leicester. Think Chelsea was the 3rd club mentioned. Got put under the rug (or bought), plenty quickly afterwards

[@kwazilucas]

I love this channel with my all. Joe Devine you're the best.

[@nasseralsuleimani4807]

Shout out to all the combat fans who know all about these drugs 😂😂

[@marouaneboutaib9787]

Now i get why hulk stayed at zenith 💪💪

[@JR-mk6ow]

He was already a beast at Japan or Porto

[@gulawolf]

I LOveeee when tifo makes long videos, i can listen to this guy all morning

[@marcevans2620]

13 mins is long?

[@HarmonTedesco]

A great and informative video once again

[@AeolianMusica]

The daily content you guys are churning out is excellent. I came originally for the unusual in depth analysis, and stayed for everything, including the personalities. Still very happy to see the in depth analyses dropping from time to time, and we all understand that those take considerable time investment.

[@Alex-oz1vx]

Would be nice if you could also do a video about the use of "legal drugs" like painkillers in football.

[@mbomba4415]

Thanks for the detailed explanation

[@chrisgoblin4857]

Just wanna say the music at 11:03 is a great choice for the atmosphere of the video. Awesome

[@EMETRL]

it seems hard to believe that goretzka went from skinny midfield pivot at schalke to incredibly muscular bullish midfielder at bayern in a matter of months. At first, he really didn't have that much muscle at bayern, but then he gained so much muscle mass suddenly and it was hard to miss. His body, while definitely attainable on paper, still looks incredibly unnatural in ways that traditionally muscular men just don't. I know it's not like you can just inject some steroids and suddenly you're the buffest man on the team but his transformation is suspicious. It's also weird how gnabry got bigger and slower as soon as he moved from hoffenheim, and it's subtle but I'm pretty sure hummels was larger specifically during his short time at bayern, even though the change of kit can definitely have an impact on how your body looks.

[@albertoventuri_]

I agree. The transformation that Goretzka got during the first lockdown is impressive even for a natural bodybuilder that have practiced for years.

[@Pax_Veritas]

What was it Dortmund coaches said about Haaland - "he has put on so much muscle in such a short period of time it's almost unbelievable"

[@jokoney9318]

@@Pax_Veritas haaland looks natural, very possible to get his build if he just worked out during the pandemic + he was 20 at the time. Goretzka is 28 and looks way too pumped up

[@erghjunk]

I've brought this up with other football fans before and it has... not gone well. Understandably, a lot of people are in massive denial about doping in the sport. Not that I can blame them.

[@tarkanbashllari1627]

When you deep it down, it might mean that a whole lot of world class players we've witnessed during our childhoods were never actually world class, but instead just faked it till they made it. And believe me, that wouldn't ruin our childhoods, it would turn them to ash.

[@myopiniondoesntmatter7068]

Loved the PES master league names.

[@GB-bk1nv]

Eufemiano Fuentes, the doctor made famous during the Puerto doping case, said during his trial that if he spoke about what he knew, Spain would be stripped of the 2010 World Cup. Only cyclist were ever identified as his clients, but they are known to make up less than half of the sport professionals he doped.

[@SkyFire2112]

I was just taking to my buddy about how football doesn’t seem to ever have these kinds of scandals

[@nevilleneville6518]

Because it's not in the media's intrest to have these kind of scandals - they're raking it in from the football gravy train too.

[@thomrik]

Testing is pretty relaxed too

[@GuinessOriginal]

@@thomrik footballers get tested once every 3 and half years and only one in ten cheats get caught with these tests

[@lebronjamesburner334]

@@GuinessOriginal they get tested for certain PEDs, there are many new designer PEDs that are basically untraceable through current testing methods if properly done on a steroid cycle and administered by a professional, very easy to get past drug tests at a professional level just look at the UFC and NFL

[@hadishamson393]

Rio Ferdinand & Samir Nasri are quite notable.

[@sagnasswe2114]

Tifo,you missed out on perhaps the most famous case.DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA

[@justme-hh4vp]

Garrincha!

[@alreadyknow1974]

I think Maradona was sniffing amphet during USA 94 probably not for performance enhancing reasons...

[@muhammedgamal5871]

What a special research to watch about football, those are so important but neglected topics around football, that's why tifo is good

[@nelson8434]

I feel like my knowledge from watching MPMD has come in handy in easily identifying these substances

[@reubenmiller2142]

This might be the best video I've watched to date, the insight is awesome

[@Stegibbon]

I know about the Spanish national team and Pep's Barcelona and all the cover ups and doctors offices burning down but it's pretty obvious that almost every club does it now. The level of athleticism in the game is increasing far too quickly to be natural.

[@tomtaylor1178]

One of ur best vids

[@ahsannadeem9070]

Just pooped into say, man that thumbnail is dope! Well done 💯

[@luckylight8592]

Barcelona and their connection to doping hasn't been talked about. Pep Guardiola doctor who helped dope was their team doctor for 4 years. Lance Armstrong's doctor who helped him dope was also working with Barcelona players, with the club admitting " he may have worked with them". Xavi was also exposed by Graham hunter who said he was taking growth hormones to recover, before realizing the mistake he did and taking back his statement. And then comes the suspect rise of Messi... coinciding with pep and his doctors before suddenly injuring him self after 2012. Or the fact Spains' world cup team was heavily implicated in a doping scandal involving doping but was covered up by the Spanish government.

[@thefacelessquestion3333]

Pfft,who thinks football is "clean"? Most sports aren't.... They keep testing N'golo Kante but man's clean and just naturally gifted.

[@tomevans9512]

Can you do a video on Swindon Town's time in the late 80s-90s? Bet it will be an interesting story with the cancelled premier league promotion, redemption 3 years later etc.

[@cihatkosger4973]

Oh man what a voice is this. It was not that good while he was absent and on vacation. Thanks for the insight.

[@garthvader9916]

Garth Vader: "It'll probably just be a few old blokes I've never heard of..." Tifo: *so let's start with Pep Guardiola*

[@Storiaron]

Me: "i guess some minor stuff to help boost recovery" NANDROLONE

[@dodge33cymru]

Fantastic video, thanks for this level of research. I'm a big fan of cycling too and obviously it has a history, but it also feels like the sport tries hard to stamp it out. Football very much gives the impression of looking the other way as much as possible. One case that might be of interest is Operacion Puerto; Dr Fuentes was at the heart of the biggest doping scandal in cycling since Festina in 1998 and it resulted in a lot of cycling's biggest names receiving lengthy bans. The cyclists were identified by the sport but the lab held blood bags of footballers, athletes and tennis players who were never named. Real Madrid have some legal action against him ongoing as he's heavily hinted that they knew him and wondered why other names never came out. Worth a look up, especially considering Spain's 'golden age' of sport 10-15 years ago.

[@marinob7433]

NIce vid! also you forgot to mention the famous "cafe Herrera"

[@BillShatner31]

EPO was probably so big in italy because it was invented there. Their winter olympic team in like 1994 cleaned up in medals due to EPO, and Marco Pantani was basically a proto Lance Armstrong.

[@mooreanonumbers]

Dr Fuentes(of Operation Puerto) worked with Liga players but no names were ever released

[@george2979]

goretska had to have bene on the special pills between 18-20 the guy trippled in size

[@Retro1692]

MIND BLOWN!

[@jeremy7695]

Very informative video

[@mwahafamufeti4263]

"The CEO of EPO" ~Colby Covington

[@frostboomba1462]

Daniel porier.

[@Avalon_1991]

One thing you can be sure of: none of the current Arsenal players are taking performance enhancing drugs.

[@juanpAAA2059]

Great video!!!

[@Timliu92]

An incredible, well-researched video by Tifo as usual. I hope you all keep making quality 'dope' content like this! 👍👍🔥🔥🙏🙏

[@Pri405]

🤓 Tifo researches abt football all day He's got so much knowledge 👊🔥💪

[@bilalahmedshariff5576]

Agree

[@atlante4368]

I always play Sunday league methed up to the gills, it's awesome.

[@gamewithgreg]

Loving the PES legends Valeny and Espimas at 1:14 😂

[@stevejohn96]

now this is a vedio this is what journalism should be about

[@yashardadashzadeh3191]

Bayern and Liverpool immediately come to mind. Two of the teams with the hardest work rates, most receding hairlines among players, and crazy short term transformations 🙃

[@frostboomba1462]

Receding hairlines, jeez that's actually a pretty decent metric. 😂😂

[@lionheart3429]

Back your stupid claims and name 10 from the Two teams. If they are doping as you claim

[@yashardadashzadeh3191]

@@lionheart3429 goretzka, lewa, Davies, TAA, and salah are all very obvious tbh. The transformations are not natural and their hairlines have gotten worse year after year, especially during their crazy transformations. The truth of it is that almost every footballer uses PEDs for recovery, but liverpool and bayern use it (on specific players at least) for more than just that. And before you say "newbie gains" just remember that these are footballers in their 20s who already work out 10+ hours in the gym every week for 10 months a year. If newbie gains were a thing for footballers then ronaldo would've been jacked after one season at UTD, not on his 3rd/4th.

[@lionheart3429]

@@yashardadashzadeh3191 obvious how? Because you can't look like that so anyone who looks better the. You is on steroids or peds Lewendovski is possible Goretzka had a case is good genetics and newbie gains Alfonso Davies is of west African decent and for the most part have great muscle building genetics especially being 20 or so years old Trent you having a laugh seriously he's toned at best Salah has had the same physique since Roma days apart from putting on maybe 2extra ibs of lean muscle a year All easily attainable transformations. You are just reaching with no credentials or education involved to back claims... None of the names you mentioned even have recording hairlines and even then it doesn't mean you are on something recording hairline is a part of many men's life because of genetics not peds😂😂😂 Clueeeeless!!

[@finlaycraig1810]

@@yashardadashzadeh3191 who's to say what's natural player development and what isn't? Perhaps these players are just supremely talented and have been allowed to succeed by proper care and sports science. Davies and TAA are strange to bring up with them being so young. We don't know what's natural for them. Also It's lazy analysis to say "high workrate = doping"

[@sij748]

There are many players, particularly those in their 30s who are still going strong, that I’m very suspicious about when it comes to performance enhancing drug use. It’s more than diet, exercise and good genetics.

[@mmehdija]

Excellent video

[@thagor8590]

Amazing video.

[@AlexNyeFit]

More plates more dates has covered how a lot of football players can and have got around drug testing

[@nebrit97]

Bayerns player look like they are on steroids. Many players which came into the club lately gained a lot of muscle in short time for example goretzka and coutinho when he was on loan

[@naheem]

I remember all these players failing tests for Nanderlone. I wonder how many players never got found out.

[@krisr3868]

Overall, good video, but I felt that a mention of Operacion Puerto was missing (along with some criticism of how the Spanish authorities handled that case).