Tile Tricks 101 ( cutting circles shower valve & toilet )

[@StarrTile]

*For all of those that comment about my blade to the finger, obviously you don't know anything about tile blades, they cannot cut a soft item, they are meant for dense material*

[@mrsmith9350]

Lol, i did it to a customer once, touched blade on purpose while they were talking to me, and yelled, they freaked out and i laughed so hard and touched it few more times

[@Jantus1000]

Until it grabs your hand, sucks it in and wedges it between the table and the blade. Same as a grinding wheel, which also isn't a sharpened edge.

[@mikeklug3369]

@@Jantus1000 no wrong. Tile saws will not grab anything. No room and not a chance of grabbing. Might skin you slightly and obviously if you hold it on there it could maybe burn you. A grinder will cut you to the bone with no regard. I know this first hand by using tools all my life. I am not condoning putting fingers on any blade of any kind but know characteristics of tile blades. If your finger rubs against it you'll most likely hardly know it.

[@mikeklug3369]

Grinder depending on the wheel chosen

[@Jantus1000]

Mike Klug i know a guy who lost his ring finger thinking that, please just be mindful around all power tools

[@butterblood]

Gah 3:47. I've been setting tile about 18 years. I've lost count how many times that's happened. Doesn't even phase me anymore. Anytime you're free cutting up off the tray it just takes a slight twist and the blade grabs it. The worst part is when it breaks the tile haha.

[@nickavery2496]

(Young female) I have tried to do the same thing, that thin it normally breaks almost 90% of the time, unless its perfectly squared on one tile. Even then it's a hard cut.

[@bretgreen5314]

Nice lesson; thank you

[@AllBayEveryDay]

Way easier with the grinder.

[@allan1664]

can you make a video on how to do your bullnose, they are super neat

[@RalphGrey-bc8kt]

What kind of blade you using? Brand?

[@PaulDeanBumgarner]

It’s called a compass.

[@matts5771]

What would u do if the circle is in the middle of tile.... grinder... that only works if ur hole leave the tile and it does as much as it doesn’t. I know I all ways just set up my grinder station at the beginning of every job.

[@hotbam37]

What about when the hole is directly in the middle area of the tile? is a grinder the only way to do it then?

[@shantor100]

Yep

[@SuperOrcy]

surely if you are doing the same size valve all the time you just buy the right holesaw for the job?

[@StarrTile]

+SuperOrcy Yes...you can order a large ( 5'' or 6'' ) diamond hole cutter online...HD & Lowes won't have it. But that assumes every valve you have is the same size.

[@liveitlikeitloveall2746]

StarrTile The mixer valves are rarely the same, at least the ones I come across aren’t. I usually go with the route you’re showing here, but not as detailed. Lol

[@TravelAlongAdventures]

Everyone that keeps saying your gonna lose your fingers apparently have no experience with tile saws! It isn't gonna cut you! It scares you more than anything and also it's good for trimming finger nails! Lol

[@santoszarate2780]

Those "valve guards" are pretty damn ridiculous. I've been plumbing and tiling for several years and have found that is most cases, that as long as the screw holes are not obstructed, you will be just great. No need for all this but, just a tip. Take it if you like it, if not then that is perfectly ok.

[@StarrTile]

Mud guards are great, I use them all the time, and upset when the homeowner throws them away BEFORE I plumb in the valve. Mudding, Regard, tiling, all make a mess on the valve without one...just my take.

[@santoszarate2780]

I can respect that, it looks like you've seen some stuff. I guess I've been pretty dang fortunate. If they work for you awesome, more power to you.

[@jakecarey83]

It's nice when someone actually uses one and your the guy putting in a new mixer many years later and don't have to make the hole larger in place

[@lrc87290]

Exactly! 3 inch holes saw. Diamond or carbide grit. Fast and easy.

[@joesadajr5272]

Santos Zarate i agree with you.

[@gk_filer]

Great!! Can't wait to se a 12x24"

[@StarrTile]

Well that is a different issue, using an angle grinder for a large format tile

[@terrymauk7370]

carpet pad flipped upside down will hold the tile in place I know it sounds crazy

[@lancerudy9934]

How do you cut the tile?

[@jo7704]

3:46 Ouch.. got scared for a sec..

[@StarrTile]

+jo7704 LOL ! These blades don't cut soft skin, only hard tile

[@TheOpelkoenjas]

+jo7704 Yeah, that was a very close call indeed. o.O

[@fudgedogbannana]

So whats the trick, drawing the circle? we have been doing it like this for years, I like to use a glass cutter to score the line around the circle first.

[@jameshutchins3396]

And no dust! Love it!

[@static924]

No need to cut a circle around shower valve ..smarter not harder.. Just need small square cut as long as there is access to the 2 shower valve screws ..

[@brandenlawrence]

Yeah, that’s what the previous “smarter” guy thought too. Problem is that some escutcheons are made with a recess that fits in that whole so square doesn’t work making it “harder” for me to fix his mess.

[@kennanlynn4977]

Most cover want cover the corners if u do a square cut ... the covers dont usually cover but about a half in in each direction

[@cameronknoechel9767]

I agree most of the time no need to cut a circle, but u gotta use a little common sense, do your homework fellas. Check out your plumbing first.

[@xenamerry]

You didn't show how to cut a circle in the centre of a tile with the wet saw. I've seen it done with a wet saw on a bench, not a drop wet saw. As you didn't succeed completely with your example from the side of the tile, can it be done in the centre? You mentioned it could, so why not show us and show us a successful example of the circle from the side that you did?

[@WireWeHere]

"Compass" or pair of compasses with a piece of tape to get around center skating. You were searching for it's name.

[@StarrTile]

Yes

[@yuchuga8341]

Use a diamond hole saw so much safer and nicer cut

[@salvadorperez6031]

you are very brave man

[@Titantitan001]

You don’t even need to cut a circle. Just have to have the right places exposed for the screws etc.

[@shantor100]

Correct, because some of the cover plates are a fraction bigger than the mud guard. I do exactly what you said

[@TheRealNisu]

I almost subscribed to the patreon after u almost sawed your thumb off...Good stuff tho... Love the Videos..

[@snap6786]

OK, that's great, but what do you do if it's in the middle of the tile?

[@StarrTile]

+Snap 678 My bad...there is a way to do that with a wet saw, but I would defer to a grinder as I indicated.

[@3rdaxis649]

+Snap 678 Angle grinder with a diamond cutter

[@chasermcchaser1668]

you are shit out of luck and just have to have a valve less shower.. Its now your closet, good luck.

[@josesabillon3497]

Square cut and leave enough space To screw the cove Same whit the toilet flange The toilet will cover

[@imherehello117]

I would think you could use a hole saw to make a hole in the center and then four holes around the edges. Then just clip them out with the grinder and then clean up the edges. What I’m really wondering is if they make a diamond blade for a jigsaw.

[@blackrain6ft5]

Htf he still have all his fingers?

[@karenpayne3946]

Grinder should be set up, spray with water keep dust down.

[@lancerudy9934]

What is the rpm of the tile saw?

[@StarrTile]

4200

[@johnmiller8528]

3:45 hahaha wow!!!! idk about this method

[@StarrTile]

If you knew about tile blades, you would be ok with it ;-)

[@johnmiller8528]

tile blades cant cut fingers off???? StarrTile

[@StarrTile]

Well I suppose you you PUSHED very hard on the blade, perhaps, but they are not sharp, rather fairly dull and harmless to most contacts. A full 18 years later and never even drew blood on one

[@johnmiller8528]

nice :) good to know. thanx

[@johnathanbusse4679]

I'd much rather run my fingers across a tile blade then get hit with the zipper side of a pillow! Lol

[@andytyz9790]

Doesn't anyone use nippers anymore??

[@bigscout1584]

OSHA would like to see this video

[@crunch9876]

Ray Vandegrift why? What would they say. All they would ask is that he wears glasses and is plugged into gfci plug. They wouldn’t ask for gloves if that’s what you are implying.

[@jdgrupp]

Genius

[@johnathanbusse4679]

Definitely works this way to but get good with a grinder and it is much faster

[@StarrTile]

Actually they have 5 inch and bigger diamond hole cutters, so I don't do this anymore👌

[@grizrr]

4 inch grinder will be twice as fast

[@THEJET52]

Holy Cannolli Batman!

[@timmian85]

"set up the grinder" - like it doesnt take you twice as long to set up the saw.

[@StarrTile]

Saw is ALWAYS set up...grinder is not how I prefer anyway and ceramics will break under that pressure

[@kennanlynn4977]

That and the grinder for me is more sketch and slings rocks and doesnt make as clean off a cut... seem to chip worse with grinder for me

[@srarcade]

I think I'll keep my fingers.

[@knottreel]

This video is just scary!

[@onlytheelites5797]

they sell good circular bits for that but nice work

[@Lu-cho]

To expensive. .

[@mikemcorky5418]

Lu Cho not to a professional who does this for a living.

[@guadalupevasquez7260]

A lot of work to cut a circle

[@kelvinlyons3401]

Use PPE's Personal Protection Equimpment.. Gloves, Long sleve shirt, or cover arms, Safety Glass and Ear Plugs. Plug into a GFCI circut.

[@mrsmith9350]

No long sleeve shirts and saws

[@crunch9876]

Mr Smith also no gloves and saws.... Your not suppose to use gloves with a lot of rotating equipment like bench grinders and pipe threaders. The glove is more likely to get caught and hurt you.

[@mrsmith9350]

Yup

[@YelpBullhorn]

I've been tiling for years and I never wear any PPE, not even eye protection, and I've never had a problem.

[@avoiceofyourown9652]

a grinder is the way... but either way... nice video

[@RobertELee-uc7em]

compass...

[@Ginopinzon]

Holly Sh%T... Did you check your Underwear 😂 😂 😂

[@eizzle78]

Why has nobody made a diamond blade for a jigsaw!?!? 🤣

[@StarrTile]

They do have them

[@eizzle78]

@@StarrTile is that an option or do they tear the Hell out of the tile like they do to wood?

[@StarrTile]

@@eizzle78 well a second person would be squirting water on it and of course you would go very slowly

[@olivertwist9628]

The name of this video should be how to butcher tile, what if the hole is in the middle of the tile which yours wasn't and you still broke it and posted the video like that would have worked on a job you were getting paid for LMAO 😂🤣

[@scooter1391]

Not for beginners I see

[@mechtech0110]

you better put that cover back on and don't loose the screws or else the plumber will be pissed.

[@ricksmith5230]

This is not the way to do this use a hand grinder 35 years of doing tile

[@StarrTile]

First of all there are dozens if not hundreds of videos on KZbin showing using a grinder, it is extremely doubtful that a homeowner would even have a grinder let alone know how to use one just for building a shower one time... so this is an alternative method that somebody building a shower to use since they have a wet saw already.... plus the tile shown here is a very soft ceramic and you are not going to be able to get that kind of hole without busting the tile using a grinder

[@3rdaxis649]

Fail. I always make sure to lay out the tile so you don't wind up in the middle of a single tile rather two or even four tiles makes it much less likely to make a mistake

[@chasermcchaser1668]

Is that feasable.??? What if your front tiles are only an inch thick because of that? this was my idea, but idk.

[@StarrTile]

EXACTLY ! He knows not what he speaks, layout is dictated by the shower, NOT the guy setting the tile.

[@happyhammer2894]

To set your tiles out to make sure it’s over two or four tiles? Damn your showers must look horrendous.

[@slicker55]

I had to 'fast forward' to see if you still had all your fingers....

[@e7934]

Dense material ok