Tillage at 10 mph: Challenger 1038 Tractor & Degelman Pro-Till 26

In this video we spend time out in the field with a Challenger 1038 tractor and Degelman Pro-Till 26 working up ground at 10 mph for corn planting .
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[@BriansFarmingVideos]

Watching this from a 1038 challenger pulling a turbomax. Awesome tractors

[@krisbaird5555]

Hey Brian you should try a pro til i think you guys would like it in the corn stalks but thats my opinion there awesome machines

[@BriansFarmingVideos]

Jerod Broussard shhhhh don’t tell him that

[@brentfarrow8125]

My brother who lives in Canada has been running a tillage tool they call it a short disk up there has had very good results for the last two years now. They also roll the fields after planting,too help firm the dirt around the seeds but also pushes small fist size rocks down.The rocks are just the right size to mess up high speed hay machine and they flip into a combine easily,again thanks for all of your great videos 😎

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for sharing and watching.

[@petersuto9461]

Wow!This is amazing!USA it is a big country with big machines.Hungary it is a small country with small machines.Right today I finished the corn planting on my productive soil.Congratulations mister for your all videos which were post on you=tube,are magnificent.👌👌👌👍👍👍

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. Very cool to have a viewer in Hungary. I would like to visit Europe some time and see the farming there. What tractor and planter do you operate?

[@petersuto9461]

@@bigtractorpower Have a good day mister from Hungary!Thank you mister for your great appreciation!You are welcome in Europe,whenever you want,and of course in my homeland!I only joke yesterday about the small machines which we used in order to work the productive soil.Personally I do not have soil processing machines,i mean,tractor and all the rest machines which are necessary to work the productive soil,but the company with which I cooperate have.They have 4 big tractors Massey Ferguson with 300 HP and 4 small tractors as well with 160 or 165 HP,in a total land of 1200 hectars.that mean 3000 acres in USA.The corn planter isn't big like in USA with 36 rows,only 12 rows,but modern an very effectiv.3 pieces of 7 head rotating plow,1 piece of wheat planter with 48 rows,3 pieces of soil cultivater and combines for the autumn harvest.This company is based in livestock breeding with 1200 milking cows.So,they used the agricultural land,to produce the daily food for the cows.Feed corn,silage corn,triticale and alfalfa,but all this things give us work enough,in order to make the milking cows to be happy.I wish you mister a wonderful day from Hungary!Good luck and perseverance!

[@thomasmarti5856]

The fuel savings alone are amazing !thanks BTP:)

[@bigtractorpower]

It’s a big difference.

[@lfeco]

350 hp only burns 8 gph? That's hard to believe. The Degelman is impressive.Nice review with prices.

[@romain793]

This is thanks to a european designed tractor! The 1000 series are a pure Fendt product, with it's typical MAN engine and european engines are well known for being less thirsty... It's always funny to see how north-american farmers are currently turning to european technology such as this outfit, because even if the Degelman is north-american made, it's a typically european tool and as said before, the tractor is just a repainted european Fendt...!!!

[@SteveHolsten]

Thanks again, BTP!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@JEDI-MAQUINAS]

TOOP parabéns

[@markstengel7680]

Massive Disc, it dose a good job leaving good seedbeds. Impressive savings on fuel. Enjoyed 🚜👍

[@easchit]

That Challenger / tillage combo is simply amazing. Who in their right mind would give this video a thumbs down???? Sheesh.

[@bigtractorpower]

They do make a nice team. Thank you for watching.

[@jankotze1959]

That was a great video, the pro-till do a fine job

[@bigtractorpower]

The Pro-Till is a beast of a machine.

[@AgriFarmModelsTV]

that's one good looking tractor !!

[@bigtractorpower]

👍

[@kadenguenther9227]

That’s a cool tractor

[@bigtractorpower]

👍

[@justincase2830]

Your best video for 2019 is my vote!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you. The is quite a compliment. 👍

[@laprovidenciafs1938]

Nice challenger!!! Good video BTP🚜👍

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@LaHaSi4208]

The German Meisterwerk! 😉👍

[@bigtractorpower]

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[@romain793]

Great video, as usual!

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@krisbaird5555]

Those are both awesome machines looking forward to owning a pro til in the future

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. What size will you run?

[@krisbaird5555]

Jason i would get a 26 foot i have run one before rented one last summer they are awesome

[@bigt6359]

Great video

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@alexandrelamarche42]

Wow this is a very nice Challenger. Keep up the great work.👍

[@alexandrelamarche42]

@@rdekort9273 thank for the information

[@bigtractorpower]

R de that’s what makes it a good tractor.

[@bigtractorpower]

The Challenger/Fendt 1000s are the nicest tractors I have been around.

[@justinworkman9980]

Best tractor ever

[@bigtractorpower]

👍

[@wolfgangoberkofler2785]

I did not know that the specifications of the challengers and the fendts are different. We here in europe know not much of the challengers. Here are sold most of them as fendt. By the way, i see some differences in the cab (joystick...). Great colors. Would be cool to have my fendt in this paint scheme... Greetings from south tyrol, the northest part of italy. Wolfie

[@bigtractorpower]

Great to have a fan in Italy. The key difference between the Fendt and Challenger is the controls. On the outside they are the same other than the color and badges. Wonder if you can order a yellow Fendt. Over in the United States you can buy a Fendt 1000 in optional Forest Green, black, white and cherry red. In the United States General Motors sells pick up trucks as the Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra. Basically the same truck with a few more things in the cab of the GMC. AGCO has done the same thing as GM to sell the tractor in more places under two brands. I think it was a smart move.

[@wolfgangoberkofler2785]

bigtractorpower Here in italy i don’t think that they sell them yellow. The other colors can definitively be ordered. I have to ask my dealer about it...

[@PG_Living]

I love this video. The fuel savings are something to get excited about.

[@bigtractorpower]

The Fendt/Challenger stands out.

[@interman7715]

Excellent video 👍👍👍👍👍

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@AgriVidsProductions]

Filmed a fendt 1050 2 years ago. Really impressed by it!

[@bigtractorpower]

Awesome. I have filmed 1038 Challengers in several settings. I sure would like to see a 1050.

[@tonybullock9559]

bigtractorpower you might be interested in checking out Jonny 1388 he is a you tuber who drives a Fendt for a living

[@carlosvilla1097]

👌👌👌

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@littlerougue]

I think Challengers are my new favorite

[@bigtractorpower]

👍

[@samrugtiv3839]

Good video, you can't beat that outfit for sure.sam

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. It sure make a great tillage combo.

[@skyjacker8688]

enjoy the in cabin tours but would like to hear more about all the controls and how the driver interfaces with them, thanks.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. The next couple of corn planting videos on the channel will talk with the operators.

[@valentusslimroast6716]

I know the fellow that started the Degelman company, his farm is about 30 miles from ours

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool.

[@Spudchucker92]

That's one impressive piece of machinery. Just downloaded it as a mod for Farming Simulator 19. Cool tractor. And that fuel economy is bonkers. I'm an agricultural ignoramus but I still appreciate these kind of videos and this type of machinery. 👍

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. I hope these BTP videos can help improve your FS operation. Good choice on the Pro-Till

[@RandomizedGamerrrr98]

Looks like a Fendt Vario 1050, but in yellow. Still a cool tractor and nice video.

[@bigtractorpower]

The Fendt and Challenger 1000’s are great machines from AGCO.

[@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer]

Really nice tractors. Our contracter came last week with a mighty Fendt 939 to bring manure to the cornfields. It's so big that the frontwheels are the same size as the backwheels on my New Holland 6635. My video about that is online

[@bigtractorpower]

I will check out the video. The 939 is an impressive tractor. It is amazing how big tractors are getting today.

[@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer]

@@bigtractorpower Yes really impresive. When I was a kind, a tractor of 130 HP was a very big one. Nowadays it's a normall tractor for a dairyfarm. But it's still pretty cool! Brings the kid back out 😃🤫

[@jrice1091]

That Dagelman high speed disc is a nice tool. It sized that up nicely. I noticed that it was bouncing in areas , was it the field or was it just making a light pass and bouncing on the tires.

[@bigtractorpower]

The farm just took over the field. The previous farm did not take care of the ground. They never fertilized and they let the ground wash. It had some big wash outs. The Degelman was great in filling in the ruts. The tractor really absorbed the rough ground.

[@jrice1091]

@@bigtractorpower Thanks for the clarification BTP!

[@clintonstubbs2319]

That's a great tractor. Bigtractorpower, the engine in that tractor is 12.4L right? International uses that same engine in some of their semi trucks. Large engine for a row crop tractor and great fuel economy.

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes it is the 12.4 L 747 ci engine. It is powerful and smooth running. I did not know Navistar used the MAN engine.

[@kravtomreno8868]

Fendt!!!

[@bigtractorpower]

👍 great AGCO product.

[@ZekenStreak]

Would the twin narrows be to lessen compaction? Or just a preference by this farmer? Great vid.

[@easchit]

Zeke ‘n’ Streak wondered that myself

[@jaycobellis5837]

Narrow dauls are standard on american tractors

[@joonasrautio9909]

@@jaycobellis5837 but why

[@Dinoxt12]

Boss Set-Up...the tiller does a fine job from what I can see and for the tractor 8 gallons a hour of fuel @ 10mph...can't beat it with a stick...just in fuel savings in several years will cut much of the cost of owning it .

[@bigtractorpower]

Challenger 1000s are well worth a look.

[@379insk]

Those Pro tills take big power. I was at a demonstration with a 40' being pulled by a 575 Versatile. It was all that Versatile could do to pull it!

[@bigtractorpower]

They are heavy duty. I have not had a chance to see a 40ft. I did film a 33ft on a 9620R and it put that tractor to working rolling in fresh cut corn stalks at 10 mph.

[@379insk]

@@bigtractorpower .......with a 40' they are so heavy you have to air up your back tires. The are the heaviest vertical till tool I have ever seen.

[@moemoney4604]

I had a 40' that I pulled with my 9460R. It did it no prob on flat land but her tongue was out all day for sure and crazy fuel burn lol

[@asapslide8441]

Do some companies offer matching paints for extra bucks? It would look so much better on that setup which looks brand new!!

[@albertafarmer894]

All degelman equipment is built extra heavy duty and super high quality construction,which is a good thing.

[@bigtractorpower]

I agree. Great product line of solid machines.

[@leslillie8365]

Here in Michigan we have rocks the size of the big tires on the Degelman. How would it stand up to them at those high speeds?

[@bigtractorpower]

I don’t think any implement is going to work with a rock that size. It could not clear it if it’s bigger than a wheel. . Degelman makes a big claw to lift and remove rocks like that.

[@garymaris9471]

400 grand plus, Whew!

[@bigtractorpower]

It is a big investment for big jobs.

[@stanleykeith3467]

Amazing fuel figures on such a high horse power tractor

[@bigtractorpower]

It’s a solid tractor. Pretty impressive in what it can do.

[@paddypoolfc3579]

20 gallons down to 8? That's really impressive.

[@Enriiquegomez]

Paddypool FC really is

[@jakeadair8292]

So does this mean front 3pt hitches are starting to take off over here in the states?

[@ChiefAUS]

I would like to see more front 3pts here as well. I have seen none in my area.

[@bigtractorpower]

The only thing I see 3pts being used for is on triple hay mowers. I think the reason the 3pt has not caught on here for many jobs are the 25,30,40, 45,50 and 60 ft implements used to farm. They are so wide they need to be drawn.

[@jaytrosvig]

Degelman 26 foot Protills are now built in the United States. 🇺🇸

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes this was filmed before Kinze began manufacturing them.

[@jaytrosvig]

@@bigtractorpower True on Kinze but Degelman has recently started manufacturing 20’ and 26’ Foot Protills in Hillsboro, ND.

[@mrourcanada8964]

I have to say that’s a pretty big difference in fuel savings between the John Deere in the Challenger if that was the size tractor you need I deafly would be find out over the John Deere just on the fuel savings alone and pay for itself quicker

[@bigtractorpower]

It is a big consideration for sure. A farm i film at has a few dozen Challengers for this reason.

[@farmerallis]

These tractors are ridiculously fuel efficient.

[@bigtractorpower]

They do a great job.

[@user-oe5ug8wd3f]

Iove..u...Fc

[@Military-Museum-LP]

Allot of iron. They have it set pretty shallow. Kind of a light till I guess.

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes in the spring they just want to work the seed bed to loosen the soil, warm the seed bed and bury weeds. In the fall they will run aggressive to size Nd bury corn stalks.

[@JD-oh9vz]

Looks like it does a great job, but 130,000 bucks wow.

[@bigtractorpower]

Big investment. It is a solid built machine.

[@johnkolbjr8375]

I wonder how it would compare to a John Deere 9R series tractor with a IVT... if it was made.

[@bigtractorpower]

It is hard to say because John Deere does not offer an IVT 9R right now. I do hope film a CVX Steiger. It will be interesting to see how it compares with a power shift model on fuel.

[@lgpadilha]

It will cost around BRL1,66MM according the price informed in AGCO website. This price not considering our Savage taxation that pushes the price easily to BRL 2MM. Brazil is not for amateurs.

[@bigtractorpower]

American farmers do receive tax breaks and exceptions for equipment purchases. Sorry to hear Brazil is aggressive on farming taxes.

[@rickymurphy9173]

Now I like all these tractors with that said a new hauling tractor with the same horsepower does it get better diesel mileage breaker as the other two the Challenger in the John Deere and if so which tractor that are pretty equal sizing far as horsepower gets the best mileage 4 acre scared of gallon huh

[@bigtractorpower]

When you say hauling tractor do you mean pulling a Forage trailer or manure tanker? A CVT transmission is going to shine even more in the case.

[@rickymurphy9173]

@@bigtractorpower I use this microphone on here to talk in my words I guess it don't understand them cuz I'm old country boy when I said New Holland tractors which of the tractors like John Deere case and the new Holland's but that side same size get the best diesel per hour per acre that's what I met

[@eddybekkers]

fendt in disguise

[@bigtractorpower]

It’s not a disguise. It’s to meet the dealer network available to sell AGCO tractors in a region. The Challenger was such a hit here many Massey dealers jumped on board to start selling Fendt 1000s. To me it’s no different than General Motors Chevy Silverado and GMC Seriea pick up tracks. Same truck different dealerships and a few more creature comforts on the GMC. Same for AGCO the Fendt has some upgrades in the cab.

[@Spudchucker92]

Looks better than the Fendt, purely for the paint job.

[@stanleybaker3400]

What no wildlife running out of field?

[@bigtractorpower]

Not on this one. I saw a huge heard of deer the other day.

[@Doyle-Nutbush]

So, the Challenger was getting 8GPH pulling a 26' and the Deere 9620R was pulling a 33 foot Degelman getting 20gph, is that right ??

[@bigtractorpower]

No both are running 26ft. I have a separate video of a 9620R on a 33ft model m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqHOqneoo5ifecU

[@Doyle-Nutbush]

@@bigtractorpower Yes, I saw the 33' Degelman in the link you just gave, Didn't see a vid of any other JD pulling a 26" Degelman

[@bigtractorpower]

It appears in the video where I talk about the fuel efficiency at the 3:30 second mark.

[@Doyle-Nutbush]

@@bigtractorpower Thanks I'm a moron sometimes :)

[@bigtractorpower]

No worries. I was just trying to transition the clip to follow story and show the two machines on the Pro-Till.

[@Aivazfull]

Its Fendt

[@bigtractorpower]

Yes. AGCO owns both Challenger and Fendt. The Challenger has a larger dealer network in the United States than Fendt so it makes sense to offer this tractor as a Challenger to sell more of a stand out product.

[@RoughRiderBB]

Pour ground following of the tillage tool. Nevertheless the job could have done by a 8R before, 9R completely oversized. No wonder the fuel consumption is down.

[@bigtractorpower]

These Degelman machines need power to run 10mph. A smaller hp 9R is a good match on a 26ft Pro-Till. The 33ft Pro-Till i filmed on a 9620R gave the 620 hp tractor a work out. This farm decided to move from an articulated machine to a fixed one. Both the 4wd and Challenger are basically the same horse power and engine size. The Pro-Till makes a nice seed bed. Why do you think it is poor?

[@RoughRiderBB]

@@bigtractorpower look at 5:20 onwards, rhe outer discs barely touch the ground. I don't like the rubber torsion system in general. In my opinion there are better systems in the market like Lemken. Also Väderstad offers a X setup of discs to avoid left-right movements at higher speeds.

[@felixandras4102]

Does it get stuck with those wheels more often than the JD 4WD?

[@bigtractorpower]

The 1038 has front wheel assist so it has four wheel power when needed. I think it can power through a wet spot as well as a 4wd.

[@johnwoods7577]

Why no HD?

[@jrice1091]

It takes an hour or so for it to render in HD.

[@johnwoods7577]

thank you

[@bigtractorpower]

I have a 4K camera but have not used it yet. 4K eats up a computers memory. I do not know that my lap top could produce a 10’min 4K video. I plan to show some 4K this year. Stay tuned.

[@germanburgos3829]

Me da la censacion q El tractor se afirma con mas fuerzas. Con esas cubierta delgadas tando Las traceseras cmo Las delanteras..

[@joegotz1971]

First!

[@bigtractorpower]

👍 I like your enthusiasm thank you for watching

[@dahlmasen3084]

Thanks for saying M-A-N and not man like every other american😂

[@bigtractorpower]

Certainly. I like to be accurate. To be transparent the first video I made with a M-A-N engine i said MAN and was quickly educated on how to say it. Great engine. 👍

[@dahlmasen3084]

bigtractorpower Thats why your chanel is the best tractor chanel on youtube👍🏻 Keep up the good work👌🏻

[@asapslide8441]

@@dahlmasen3084 yes this guy reads all the comments it seems!!

[@arikhuebner3]

First

[@bigtractorpower]

I like your enthusiasm

[@4gauge10]

Hmmm,comparing a articulated tractor to a row crop,is like comparing a Honda Civic to a Ford F-450 6.4 diesel,super-crew 4-wheel drive,of coarse the row crop is going to use less fuel.

[@austinolson9100]

It's comparable horsepower and with that being said I would consider using it for the same jobs as the articulate therefore they are comparable

[@4gauge10]

@@austinolson9100 Nope,the articulated Deere is rated for things like the DB-120 48 row planters and the like,the simple reason why is because the articulated tractor has about another 5-tons more dead weight,this is the partner of power,I've yet to see anybodies row crop pull one of these.

[@austinolson9100]

@@4gauge10 I would agree with those applications however this row crop tractor can be weighted up a lot heavier to complete with the articulates around the area I'm from there are a lot of high horse tractors doing jobs that are typically considered jobs for an articulate. I will rest my case and agree to disagree with you on this one.

[@4gauge10]

@@austinolson9100 A class 8 cannot compete with a class 9 machine,it's like saying a Honda civic can out pull a Ford F-450 4X4...HAHA!!. I already watched a actual field test of the Challenger trying to pull a DB-120 planter. I can honestly say this much,don't do it,all 4 wheels just sit and spin.

[@Ethanj387]

I guaruntee that the 500 hp version of this tractor could handle a db 120 and burn less fuel too

[@tsint]

I never thought americans bothered about fuel consumption :)

[@buckhorncortez]

We're not. He only said that to make you feel better about yourself...

[@bigtractorpower]

It’s a big consideration filling up a 211 gallon fuel tank.

[@dannamccord2040]

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