Tim and Sid debate why Ottawa can't attract fans to Senators games

[@RuthlessLieutenant]

I just moved to Ottawa for school. I thought i'd check out a few Sens games this year, being only 20km away from the arena. But according to google maps, it will take over an hour and a half to get there via bus. I could literally bike it in less time.

[@CrazyPierreRemixed]

I live in Ottawa and have for 35+ years. There are a variety of issues: 1)CTC is way out in the boonies and there is NOTHING around pre or post-game. 2)Ticket purchases have been increased or put in various weird "price levels", discouraging impulse buying. 3)There are a ton of Leafs and Habs fans in Ottawa still (spoiler alert, I'm a Leafs fan) and they are not buying much outside of their team's games. That said, our group did have season tickets until the continued ineptitude of management and refusal to rebuild took our money to other places. 4)It isn't a hot ticket. Karlsson is amazing, obviously, but then you have hobos like Brassard, Ryan, Boro, Smith that he has to haul around every shift to generate. Trading Silfverberg for Ryan was crazy, by the way. 5)There just aren't a lot of committed fans here. You have 8,000-10,000 people willing to commit to going to that rink...EVERY. GAME. And that's one hell of a commitment. Going there after work and having to bring a change of clothing because you can't go home beforehand, then eating meh food so you need to pack your supper. Bleh. 6)Transport there is terrible. Just terrible. There's a 400 bus and there's a few others that can drop you nearby, and after the game the 400 bus often leaves RIGHT AWAY after the buzzer, so you can end up strnaded. 7)Maybe more importantly? The team does NO EFFORT to sell its product. There's a weird sense of entitlement that because they have an NHL team people will just fork over their money. They should be having Karlsson on banners around town, they should be pushing their product but.... 8)...they cut heir front office too often and they have only a few sales people. TLDR: It's Melnyk and rink location.

[@rapideye85]

Time to move them to Hamilton or Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge

[@onyourkilllist6880]

Move to Toronto scum bag.

[@coreyhill681]

@@rapideye85 yeah right, never gonna happen

[@GhettoTownPhatBoy]

Im a major hockey fan and a leaf fan. I live in Ottawa for school and I been here for two years and have yet to go see any Sens game (even vs the Leafs). Its just too much of a struggle to get there.

[@maxpowr90]

Try lowering the price? Nah, makes too much sense.

[@bencarter8423]

If they move the team downtown they would not need to do that. I understand that Toronto and Montreal have a stranglehold on the region, but my god, it’s Canada’s capital city. If they move that’s a bad look. In the US, that would be like the Washington Commanders. Never going to happen.

[@benji3625]

just move the damn rink downtown, 1/10 of Ottawa's population live somewhat close to the arena. Everyone else has to drive 30 minutes minimum (without traffic) on the highway

[@joshualabelle2744]

True, for me sometimes it takes almost 2 hours to drive out to the arena with traffic and I live in Ottawa. It's way easier to just watch the game on tv.

[@cariopuppetmaster]

Why wasn't it built in downtown in the first place?

[@StukInBuf]

@theplayboymaster Why not go back to the Civic Centre until a new arena is built downtown?

[@routliffer]

It probably less than that I swear like no one lives there

[@McDouchenbag]

The problem is where the arena is

[@thekandycinema3193]

Anyone who actually follows the Ottawa Senators knows exactly why. I'm pretty sure it's the only arena in the NHL that you can't take a train/metro to and it's way outside of the city. Guaranteed if it was downtown, much more people would go to games. Not everyone is a hardcore Senators fan in the city and willing to make a long drive out when here in Edmonton, not only is the arena downtown but also the majority of the people here take the LRT. Ottawa is a smaller market already and add these factors, you're going to have low attendance. Just the way it will be until they build the arena downtown. I'm not sure why everyone is making this such a big deal. The only thing that matters is on-ice performance and the Senators just got to the ECF. I really couldn't care less HOW many seats they fill if they're going to have successful seasons. It's just the liberal, fake Toronto media like SPORTSNET looking to push a narrative.

[@scrambie]

TheKandyCinema You just had to throw liberal in there. Couldn't help yourself lol

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

TheKandyCinema you do realize that if you don't make money from tickets you need an internal cap which limits your ability to have success. The Senators are in serious serious trouble. The league would love a team in Seattle and there's no way the Yotes are moving. It is absolutely time to add the Sens to the list of potential relocations to Seattle or Houston or Kansas City or Quebec. It's sad because cities like Saskatoon or any of the previously mentioned cities would cherish, love and have passion about this team, but Ottawa isn't just embarrassing Canada as a nation, their treating this team like trash. Karlsson alone should be worth admission. It's truly sad that Ottawa is treating the Sens so poorly.

[@parkerthompson5681]

KerryPark Islanders2673 Tell me how we're treating our team like thrash?

[@CharlieND]

Well Sportsnet's parent company owns the leafs so...

[@robertbrokaw8361]

If I lived in Ottawa I would go all the time to see Karlsson play

[@xanhathway5792]

The arena is outside of Ottawa

[@CharlieND]

Kanata is in Ottawa. Look at Google maps :P

[@christiansarrazin4802]

@xanhathway kanata is 22 minutes away. most people in toronro live 20-30 minute away from the ACC yet fill it every night. its either 20-30 via sunway or gotrain or its a 45 minute drive in traffic. no excuses for ottawa.

[@FunHockeyVideos]

ja maguire lol leafs fan are so stupid... do you have any idea how bad traffic is before and after the game? Not to mention getting in the parking lots are a huge hassle

[@euginate1344]

Sports Heaven we live in Toronto.

[@saintsgotrobbed1134]

I'm huge ottawa fan i have season tickets, first of all there is a huge tanger outlets thats literally 2 minutes away from arena, and the only reasons is because the sens joined in 1992-93 and we have to compete with toronto and montreal both original 6 teams people in ottawa have cheered for them there entire life and so have there parents and so on, so when the sens joined we had a tiny market so we have come a long way

[@sam93931]

Bad location.. nuff said. Such a stupid decision.

[@christiansarrazin4802]

kanata is 22 minutes away from ottawa. most people in toronto either live a 45 drive (traffic that is 1000000 times more jammed than ottawa), or 30 minute subway ride from the acc. oh and what about people that take the gotrain for missisauga to the acc? or even hamilton? now your excuse will be parking? toronto will cost more in parking and have less parking. tickets are more expensive in toronto while people have higher living costs in compared to ottawa with their nice government jobs and cheaper housing.

[@shocktrauma85]

Also consider that you guys have one of the most hardcore fanbases in the NHL. They still sold out even during the dark years when they struggled.

[@shocktrauma85]

I don't know if the Leafs have this as well. Maybe they will with Auston Matthews' emergence. But I know the Habs pretty much have fans living everywhere. You can put them on the same level as the New York Yankees, Man U, or Dallas Cowboys in that aspect.

[@DoBap_]

Christian Sarrazin as someone who has lived in both cities, the toronto sports venues are perfectly located. Anyone can easily access them, i grew up in burlington. It takes like 30 minutes on the go train to get to union, and from there everythings connected. The canadian tire centre is miles away from downtown ottawa, and nobody wants to drive down there. If they built a new arena in the city, it would make a huge difference.

[@TheNightmareFish]

They should move the team to Ottawa

[@bobbyiello7066]

I don't go cause they don't let me out for cigarette breaks, dunno if that is the norm at all arenas now, but im not being locked in an arena for 3 hours!

[@rapideye85]

...and a joint break.

[@dinodadinosaur]

I told you before.. I'll tell you again... Prices, prices, prices. IT COSTS TOO MUCH

[@Ryan-0413]

Such a stupid location for the arena to be in. Put the damn arena in the city, not in the middle of nowhere. Same thing with the Panthers, Coyotes and even in the MLB with the Rays

[@uknownuthing]

i think the peeps are just waiting for the new arena to be built so then go there,and it will be closer to downtown

[@jeff6877]

The tickets are too expensive. SIMPLE

[@sachinz7118]

100% location. Move the team downtown and I guarantee the ticket sales will jump by ALOT. 60% of people in Ottawa are too far away from the stadium and there isn't any reliable transit to get there

[@ashtonjohnston3275]

It's cause of the stadiums lacation.

[@dpayne6567]

I live in Peterborough and there are Sens fans here but it's a big trip. Game and hotel and a 4 hour drive each way. The Sens fans comments are bang on. Another thing, if you don't sell out during the playoffs, lower the prices. If you don't have the fan base of Montreal and Toronto don't price your tickets like you do. I had a friend in Florida who use to go to Tampa games and they'd get a ticket and free food for $40. Ottawa is a great franchise. It will be around for a long time. Don't panic because the team is trying to squeeze a few more bucks from the fans.

[@cantControlLife]

It's not as bad as these guys make it seem. Go sens go ..

[@14macktactoe141]

You need bars and stuff around it to be successful

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

1) They play the most boring style of hockey possible. 2) They will always play second fiddle to the Leafs and Habs in Ontario 3) Lack of star power (Karlson and that's it) 4) When the hell do you ever hear about the Sens? I genuinely think that every other Canadian team has bigger media coverage and better/more passionate fans than Ottawa

[@thekandycinema3193]

Waaa waaa waaa Make an actual argument instead of relating to personal events and beliefs. I can just tell by your jealousy and stupidity that you're a Leafs fan.

[@GeneralthekidPlaysMC]

KerryPark Islanders2673 1,3 and 4 are wrong and the habs play in Quebec

[@ry4nx]

KerryPark Islanders2673 your points are inaccurate. You obviously don't watch games or you lack hockey iq

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

TheGamingGeneral which makes it even sadder that they have more fans in Ottawa than the Sens

[@ry4nx]

KerryPark Islanders2673 your main argument is attendance of 2 games. So yes, you're pretty dumb and low hockey iq

[@tonyedgar9768]

are ticket prices in Ottawa too expensive?

[@seanholt892]

i live in ottawa i will tell you why fans dont go it is called location to get there is a giant pain in the ass plain and simple

[@mickser101]

1) Their Arena is in the middle of nowhere, very far from City Centre 2) You can't rely on thousands of Civil servants to sell out an arena on a freezing cold Tuesday night in January 3) New Senators only founded in 92 and don't have history of Leafs or Habs 4) New Senators haven't won the big Cup yet but numerous playoff apps. have helped 5) No major stars apart from Karlsson. However i would love to see them win the Cup and beat Toronto and Montreal along the way

[@musicman76enator]

Location isn't necessarily a factor in filling seats. Look at Dodger Stadium in LA, Oracle Arena in Oakland, Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, etc. Those places are treks to get to, especially Dodger Stadium, but people still fill the seats. It all comes down to marketing and success of the team.

[@blakevoth3873]

It comes down to the stadiums horrid location

[@DylanFarrow1]

Everyone in Ontario is a leaf fan that's why

[@perjutsu2936]

Dylan Farrow Nah not me

[@DerekM1212]

Dylan Farrow I live in ontario and I like the ducks lol

[@SherlockMahomes99]

DerekDaGame 12 Bandwagoner

[@DerekM1212]

TPCWorld - Top 5 Space Videos! Well im not going to like the maple leafs or Ottawa I hate them both

[@AM-li2if]

Larry Lunchbucket lol I can't believe the day has come where leafs fans are bandwagons. Wow this feels so good

[@matthewgregory8218]

I just happened up on this video and Labreton flats is going to attract more fans and it will be near LRT. Many fans say parking is abysmal

[@chrispye5475]

Why does no one ever mention the pay problem of federal employees not getting their proper pay, who might otherwise buy tickets? I don't see anyone addressing this issue of it

[@benpearse4298]

It's the location of the building

[@tx9mdy653]

Because there's this place called Toronto

[@CharlieND]

And it's better than Ottawa ;)

[@buffalomafia7162]

Whats that?

[@T80Vay]

When would thwy play downtown

[@NoWayItsJai]

1:28 What was the purpose of taking out the LA Kings (25th) in the arena capacity list?

[@professoroak9721]

Its because they haven't had a single exciting rookie to watch since Jason Spezza

[@HuskyLM21]

Kenzo Revane What about Karlsson there bud

[@thekandycinema3193]

Because they've only had one significantly bad season since the expansion rebuild (1992-1997) and that was 2010-2011. That was only a 5th overall pick which was Zibanejad who was not NHL ready since that draft was terrible. With only 1 season in 20 years where you finish significantly below .500, you're not going to get guys out of the draft like Matthews, McDavid, Eichel or Laine who can play first or second line but rather you'll still have fantastic prospects like Chabot, but they have to work their way up the system. Do your research!

[@professoroak9721]

Im not saying there isn't a reason for them not having new and exciting players, read my comment before typing a novel to try and prove me wrong. But obviously Edmonton, Toronto, Winnipeg, etc are filling seats because the people want to see the up and coming superstars. Do your research!

[@thekandycinema3193]

And what do you expect Ottawa to do about that? Trade the farm to get a guy like Hischier so fans come out to games? The simplest and actual solution is to move the arena downtown so it's actually accessible by convenient public transportation.

[@devinthomas5823]

TheKandyCinema quit replying to everyone's comment who says something about the sens. The salt in u is unreal

[@tylermathwich]

Somebody failed economics... removing seats doesn't increase demand, it reduces supply.

[@ripmoti4052]

Sid on äijä

[@moreese613]

1. The team does not treat Season Ticket Holders very well. No perks whatsoever.2. The area is a good hockey market, but most fans are loyal to Toronto or Montreal. Most Sens fans are too young to afford tickets.3. The team does not listen to fans.4. The team ignores their poor marketing.5. The team needs a rebrand.6. The arena is located too far outside of the city.7. The main employer in the city (Federal Government) has not paid its employees properly for over a year. Some not paid at all.

[@edpottinger849]

I know this an old one but a winning record will bring fans in period.Even if it is out in the boonies.

[@musicman76enator]

The arena is in the middle of friggin nowhere!!! People dont want to have to trek out to a stadium located in the boonies!! At the same time, the reason why its out there is so that way the Sens can make money off of things like parking fees.

[@EvanMerson]

Dylan that is not True me and my friend are sens fans

[@southtext3400]

It is a bad decision, the A's untarped a lot of their seats and sold more seats the Sens need to be closer to downtown there's no other solution.

[@sudsysutherland359]

It’s weird how any Canadian team should be struggling to sell tickets, they were saying it’s a small market but look at Winnipeg & Calgary, their very small market teams & they pack their arenas no problem. But also Ottawa arena is in a bad spot I’ve been there.

[@TORLBC]

I heard they don't even play in Ottawa proper? Wow. The Detroit Pistons in the NBA had a similar problem (not here for your anti-NBA takes): playing outside of the center of the base makes watching a bad, or sometimes good, team flippant.

[@cmccarrick10]

for those complaining about driving 20min to see their team, try 30min in NJ... and i'm close to the arena! i get that representing a city instead of a state, Ottawa's arena should be easily accessible by public transportation, but that's just a weak argument. Try that the city is split between the Leafs and Habs already and Ottawa doesn't have an identity like the other nearby cities do. And it's not just hockey, no sport has done well in Ottawa. Every pro sports team that comes to Ottawa quickly goes bankrupt. Most recent example being the Ottawa Champions being omitted from the Frontier League. Yes it's independent baseball, but even that couldn't last more than 2 seasons in Ottawa.

[@orangeunderscore]

The arena is in the middle of a field in the middle of a town 45 minutes outside of Ottawa.

[@MisterCrozier]

45 minutes? Lol are you riding a bike?

[@orangeunderscore]

Eric Crozier I’m talking with rush hour traffic.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

Charmin Ultra Strong Toilet Paper not far at all. Seriously if a 40 five minute drive comes between you and your favourite team, stop cheering for them and please stop watching hockey.

[@orangeunderscore]

KerryPark Islanders2673 well personally I live 2 hours from any major city. So I I want to watch a hockey game I have to go to Montreal or Ottawa. Or Toronto in a rare case.

[@danielmacfarlane6470]

KerryPark Islanders2673 consider this (if you the brain power to be able to) government isn't paying Ottawa residents what they should, which causes them to not be able to afford it. Tickets are quite expensive to begin with and coupled with the low wages in Ottawa right now, people simply just can't afford it. It's not that they are not real fans, it's that for most of them it's either food and shelter or a hockey game. Also for those that can go, it's a 45 minute drive. For the games on week nights, you might leave it at around 10-10:30 and not hit the highway until 10:30-11 then it's another 1+hour drive dealing with traffic. Fans in downtown will not be home until after midnight. By the time you go to sleep its 12:30. A typical job, (ones with wages allowing you to afford said hockey game) would get you up at 6. This leaves about 5 hours of sleep which is not a healthy amount. It's all of these reasons as to why we are not selling what we should. Not because we have no real fans, or that Karlsson is the only star player (which is complete bs). I live north of Atlanta and I make sure to fly to Ottawa for a game every year. That's how dedicated i am and every other fan. But why do I go and not all fans? I can afford it which cannot be said for most sens fans in the Ottawa area. When the arena moves downtown and conservatives are back in charge we will sell out every game. I know that this is a lot to take in so PLEASE READ WHOLE COMMENT BEFORE MAKING UNEDUCATED REPLY!! (You seem to be good at that)

[@coreyhill681]

Because of Melnyk's passing and now they can start talking about relocation and find away to get a star player for the Ottawa Senators then maybe Ottawa Senators fans will come back for sure, only if Dorian makes smarter decisions and turn this team into playoff team, but he needs pull up his pants and find away get the fans back, that will be the first goal

[@kairoskronos9139]

The principle they're trying to take advantage of is called artificial scarcity. #goodluckmelnik

[@MixManMike95]

Prices are too high for better seats

[@elipil9300]

After a game in Toronto or MTL someone can go clubbing or celebrate the Win downtown....Please tell me what the hell you are going to do after a Sens game and WHERE you are going to go. AND NO...driving to TIM HORTONS doesn't count

[@patrickkay1511]

Tim get ur facts straight

[@arsenalcanada]

has nothing to do with the fans not being dedicated. 1. The market is small and a lot of the potential fans already have other teams (this will change with new generations of fans eventually evening out) 2. On top of the market being small, there is less money in Ottawa compared to Montreal/Toronto/Vancouver. Most people really can't afford season tickets in any city, so it's by no means a rip on Ottawa at all. Hockey tickets are overpriced in general and most families are lucky to take in one game let alone go to 41 every year. Less corporations and people with tons of money to blow in Ottawa = less season ticket holders. 3. Location- this is less of a deal breaker, I don't really think it's the main reason. If you moved the leafs arena outside of Toronto they would still sell out easily, so it's more just a minor inconvenience that adds to the first two points.

[@sultanofswing44]

I'm a sens fan and I live in Maine. I would of thought they had fans. They just played the leaves at home and it sounded like a leaf home game in there.

[@FullOfMalarky]

People in Ottawa don’t want to drive 30 min. People from Toronto will drive 5 hours since there is more availability.

[@realitytvtvproductions233]

The Arena is so far away.

[@patrickkay1511]

Kanata is awesome! Housing developing is gonna help

[@tonyk501]

The Senators should be fine once they get a new building located downtown. But if they don't, the NHL will just move them to Quebec City or Toronto to create a local rival second team to the Leafs. Whether it's Quebec or Toronto, they would make money regardless.

[@ryana3679]

People need to realize that all this "move the team to quebec or near toronto" doesnt make the NHL any more money then they already get. Ticket sales just keep the team afloat. The NHL want more eyes watching the games on TV. They won't increase TV viewership by moving another team to a Canadian market.

[@thomasmann2280]

I live in Ottawa and the tickets are like $200 for 2 and I went to 2 playoff games and 5 regular season games, people dont go because they cost so much

[@feffrey81]

Thomas Mann cost so much? Ever been to a leafs game or habs game? 🤔

[@odeszaa]

Thomas Mann yeah that sounds pretty cheap compared to other arena prices

[@thomasmann2280]

Yea I know, people don't want to spend that much or can't afford it...

[@protoman1365]

The Canucks were trash last year and tickets were still more expensive than that. I don't think that's the reason.

[@UncleAnaesthesia]

Leafsnet

[@thekandycinema3193]

Leafs mouth breathers consume anti-Ottawa fake propaganda for breakfast which is why SPORTSNET creates it.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

TheKandyCinema dude, literally everybody in Canada thinks ottawas attendance is an absolute joke. Everybody. Even non hockey people laugh at Ottawa.

[@thekandycinema3193]

KerryPark Islanders2673 How did you manage to ask 30 million people? If non hockey people laugh at Ottawa, I guess the Inuit people up in the Northwest Territories who probably have never watched an NHL game in their life must think Ottawa's attendance is a joke even though they've never heard of it. You're actually an idiot

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

Larry Lunchbucket for what? It's a well known fact that the Sens attendance is a nation wide joke.

[@danielmacfarlane6470]

KerryPark Islanders2673 says who

[@gymrat2647]

Move the senators to Quebec

[@kagura222]

because Canadian Tire Center is closer to Toronto than Ottawa.

[@Christian-wd6pc]

Then don't build an arena in a field with the only ways to get there being a bus or car.

[@UncleAnaesthesia]

Seriously though: I think Ottawa fans are smart enough to understand that the NHL is fixed by Bettman.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

UncleAnaesthesia what fans?

[@proffeine2383]

1. Nightmare to get there. 2. Young franchise 3. Mediocre population

[@flippy6952]

Yah I live in Ottawa. Love the team. But ticket prices are friggan ridiculous here. Like $200-$300 for nosebleeds in regular season for 1 game.

[@telet7543]

I hate to say it but if they don’t get a new arena they going to have to relocate. I hope they don’t but if they do I hope they move to Quebec

[@Mr.O-Town]

24th in arena capacity % 2016-17 20th in attendance 2016-17 6th in arena capacity 2012-2013 6th in arena attendance 2012-2013 2012-2013 had worse traffic due to the lack of queensway expansion, worse parking and far worse team roster and the same building.... something else is the problem. TV accessibility with more televised games? smoking free arena? Phoenix pay system? Larger number of the younger population jumping on the hawks, pitts, and oilers bangwagons? Older population still rooting for the Leafs and Habs?

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

Two words Eugene Melnyk

[@Scionofgreyhaven]

How embarrassing Ottawa...How can you not want to watch Karlsson play?

[@thekandycinema3193]

You're so clueless to all the factors that go in to the attendance. It is by far the hardest arena to get to in the NHL AND Ottawa is a small market to begin with.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

TheKandyCinema I flew across the country to watch the Roughriders. I took a ferry to watch the Roughriders lose 42-18. I frequently drive the most dangerous highway in the province(bc) to watch a middling WHL team. If you cheer for your team you should be able to get to an arena. Not being downtown is not an excuse.

[@thekandycinema3193]

KerryPark Islanders2673 Nice personal anecdotal argument and No True Scotsman fallacy. Just because you personally are willing to travel miles and overcome inconvenient obstacles, doesn't mean someone who either can't afford to go to a game or doesn't find it convenient with their schedule is not a real fan. By saying that "If you cheer for your team you should be able to get to an arena", you're basically saying disabled people, broke people, single parents and children can't be fans since they either can't afford or aren't old enough to go to games on their own will.

[@connordickey8936]

1 hour and a half to get there from some parts of the city... people even stay overnight in hotels near the arena to watch the Sens play

[@mats_sundin1392]

A lot of people don't even go and watch a guy like John Tavares play and you're worried about Karlsson?

[@mats_sundin1392]

"Why can't fans actually appreciate Erik Karlsson to go and watch the Senators, just why can't they" Hmm, let's think about that. *Looks to the left towards Auston Matthews and Toronto* *Looks to the right towards Carey Price and Montreal* problem solved pretty much.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

It's official. Add the Sens to list of teams that should move to Quebec

[@shtanna]

Less than 1.5 hr away from Montreal doesn’t help. Then you have 50% of fans there being Leaf fans. So leafs/habs come before Sens. Been to that Arena. Worse location I’ve seen. Shoulda been right downtown.

[@stlfatman]

So when the Panthers or Coyotes don't sell out, you demand they move. But when it's the Senators, you make excuses.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

TK #DELETED that's how Toronto media moves. And not gonna lie Canada totally hates the sun belt teams. We would rather they never existed

[@protoman1365]

KerryPark Islanders not to mention that in the NBA and MLB, Canada expects to be welcomed and treated the same as all of the US teams, but they run a goddamn caste system in the NHL.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

Proto Man that's a little different. The jays were top five in MLB attendance and actually have fan support. The sun belt NHL teams just don't have fans.

[@patrickkay1511]

Huh we sell out

[@nahpoli]

Move to Quebec, and also, get teams out of Florida and Arizona! not the lightning, the Panthers!

[@jonstark4166]

Give away free beer and food and cheap parking

My sens coyotes hurricanes are suffering

[@patrickkay1511]

It’s becUzw we are government town and the pay system

[@rapideye85]

We have other markets in Ontario that will rip the Ottawa market. Hamilton will rock the NHL. By the way, Kanata is too suburban...you need a downtown rink especially in a small market near the via rail station plus close to local transit hubs with bars around.

[@bellamorte152]

More important wtf is up with the officials this year a clear high stick should be no goal but is called good goal I was going to blow the whistle soooo no goal calls slashing more on more team then the other can't do big hits or automatic 5 min

[@Plutoboy85]

Because they're so boring to watch play. Trap hockey is terrible product to sell. Arena location is an excuse.

[@falerdog]

can you just stop for a sec being the 2 stogies and answer what all is really eager to know? where we will see Jagr next year?

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

falerdog clearly nhl owners are xenophobic. Lol

[@TheRomanRuler]

Sens have horrible Jerseys. Possibly worst in the league. Also i have nothing against traditional logoes, i like them, but i would prefer if they would keep them out of their regular jerseys. There is SSOOOOOO much they could do with Roman theme, yet they are doing so very little.

[@rapideye85]

Their old jerseys were very good they never needed to touch them..

[@Plutoboy85]

Easy. Because they're boring to watch. Trap hockey. Sleep time.

[@indahead5912]

Go leafs go. Already bought my tickets to the ottawa / leafs game in ottawa. Second cheaper leafs home.

[@CharlieND]

Go Leafs Go

[@TheDuckShow100]

Ottawa won jajajajajaj

[@CharlieND]

The Sens have fans? Honestly though arena location isn't the main location. They lack momentum unlike the Leafs and Habs and are usually inconsistent. Cry all you want sens "fans" but you know I'm right :P

[@Krokodilius]

Aren't ottawa fans just jaded leafs fans?..and toronto is good for the first time in a decade so who needs ottawa.

[@QuarterMan88]

They will move. Even in Ottowa, most folks are leafs n habs fans.

[@benpearse4298]

They play a boring style of hockey

[@PlanningMyDeath]

Move them. They don't deserve a team.

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

Well move them somewhere else in Canada like Quebec city or Hamilton

[@Jay-gi6oh]

Move the sens to Atlanta.

[@KerryParkIslanders-nq4rm]

Jay333 that could work. Or quebec

[@protoman1365]

KerryPark Islanders2673 Seattle?

[@CharlieND]

How about Mexico City instead?

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

Never

[@Steve_Hunts96]

Atlanta’s already had 2 teams, and they both bolted to Canada...

[@Sens23Bruins]

cause theres too many leaf fans here

[@dinodadinosaur]

I told you before.. I'll tell you again... Prices, prices, prices. IT COSTS TOO MUCH

[@brynav9]

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