TIME FOR PISTONS TO START AUSAR! WESTBROOK IS AN IDIOT! REFS GIVE NUGGETS MOMENTUM AND 134-121 WIN!

[@epeeps69]

What I remember most about that 186-184 triple overtime win versus Nuggets in 1983 is that I listened to it on WCHB 1440 one of the R&B stations in Detroit that evidently had broadcast rights for the Piston games. It was late night and I was hanging out so I had to hear the game on my car's AM radio. It's a game that I will never forget.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

It was surreal watching it!

[@Just_a_Reflection]

@epeeps69 That brings back memories. I used to hate gunning a__ Kelly Tripucka because he would never give the ball back to Zeke. Then, we traded for the most selfish player in the League. Iso Slow, Adrian Dantley🤦🏿‍♂️. Thank God for selfless Mark Aguirre. He cost himself the HOF by volunteering his starting position to the Worm, but he secured the Bad Boys a place in history as the Dynasty that the League didn't want. Aah, the good old days...

[@vxshade]

I've had to do a lot of computer work today and just watched like 8 of your videos. I, along with a lot of your fans I bet, would love to see a full recap if you ever felt like doing a full 30 minute show with more of your thoughts. There's only one show I watch other than yours on the Pistons and I wish I had more content to listen to ✌

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I appreciate that! When I started out I did 45 minute to an hour but my brother suggested that I shorten it!

[@jpkp30]

Well I enjoyed all the comments you had to make.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Thank you!!

[@Just_a_Reflection]

Ausar needs to start, and Paul Reed needs at least as many minutes as Stew and Duren.

[@billdoty6438]

Totally agree

[@vxshade]

I think we need to see who we can get for Sasser and Duren. I really like our bench of Beasley, Stew, Ausar, Holland, Tecc and Paul but we need somebody at point we can lean on when Cade and Ivy aren't having a night. Marcus is just way too predictable with his passing because he's never looking to score, which every team knows. Need a big man who can guard and a backup PG that can get to the rack and draw defenders.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Not sure we would get very much for Duren and Saser! I am confident we could get a back up point guard but it would be hard to find a rim protecting center!

[@jodygrimmett3745]

The chemistry was thrown off with Beef Stew aka Mr Jumping Jack Flash being back. We need to play Paul Reed over Isiah Stewart. We started our comeback with Reed on the floor. Ausar Thompson and Ron Holland need some of Tobias Harris minutes.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I am with you Jody! Every time B Ball Paul steps on the floor good things happen! And yes, depending on the night, Ausar and Ron need some of Tobias and Hardaway's minutes!

[@SoloACE88]

17:52 Tim Hardaway Jr. throwing Cade a live grenade is dirty work

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Agree!

[@ShahanNolan]

They should give bb Paul a try pf, he’s too good to be a leftover.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Would lovde to see him get 20 minutes or more!

[@cerebralcortechreviews1426]

There is no reason that Isaiah Stewart should have been playing over Paul Reed. Reed deserves every minute!

[@PSICK1234ikillallracistrolls]

What?

[@PSICK1234ikillallracistrolls]

You don't know basketball..​@@cerebralcortechreviews1426

[@jerryalexander8803]

Westbrook is far from an idiot, he baited Isiah Stewart and Cade Cunningham into technical fouls and energized the crowd and it was the turning point in the game

[@shawnlewis4424]

If you think Westbrook isn't a idiot after years of proof that he is .........birds of a feather

[@jerryalexander8803]

@ calling a guy an idiot that was a league MVP and a hall of a famer is wild, not to mention he was received an academic scholarship to attend Stanford, which is one of the most prestigious academic colleges in the country if you didn’t know, but carry on with your awful takes though.. peace ✌🏾

[@bluelantern5241]

​@@jerryalexander8803oh you think book smart people are immune from idiocy?

[@shawnlewis4424]

@jerryalexander8803 he can be the smartest person in the world if you act dumb your a .......

[@mmmitchin8279]

Both are true…

[@Megahustla313rd]

11:27 Yup, Luke Kennard against Washington back 2022 was good, but I think Ivey might be the first 4 point play to get a coach fired shout out to Mike Brown!

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I guess Brown went off after the game at the press conference!

[@TWKozak-hs9bo]

Great episode, coach. Happy New Year.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Thank you! Happy New Year!

[@ramen-3ats]

i love what ausar is doing, with those pull ups around the basket. last year, i wished that he would do that more often, as few people can block that. thank goodness he is doing it now. the touch isn't there but it might be the key to unlock his offense if his 3 pointer takes a bit more time to get to league average.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I am optimistic his improved form will really take off by next year!

[@ramen-3ats]

@@pistonfanaticpodcast656 🤞🤞🤞

[@vsopsleep5337]

Referees 135 Pistons 124

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I agree, the refs swung the game!

[@EliteHumanNetwork]

Tobi and THJ are getting starts and mins only because of salary. Gores made it known at the beginning of the season that he didnt want big money contracts on the bench. Considering how much he wasted on Monty I cam see why. THJ will likely be dumped or bought out at the trade deadline and Tobi will eventually be moved into a bench role with less than 1.5 yeara left.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I wouldn't mind seeing that happen!

[@philosoqhy]

Yeah, I don't see Tobias going to the bench but I could see THJ & Stew potentially getting moved at the deadline.

[@chuckbrewer6751]

I took it mean that we needed vets that play more then having to start....

[@SilverArtha]

Right before Russ got the call for pushing Cade he got away with throwing the ball at Beasley. It was an egregious non call. Nuggets were better but the refs were ridiculous.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I agree it made no sense, either they are afraid of Russ or just giving respect for the great player he used to be!

[@denniscoleman9815]

I think/hope they are trying to maximize THJ trade value, and plan on trading him at deadline for assets of some sort. I figured they would do this for Beasley as well, but am hopeful they will keep him long-term.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

@@denniscoleman9815 Not sure we would get anything for THJ. Mavs tried to trade him for three years and had to give us picks to take him.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

@@denniscoleman9815 Not sure we would get anything for THJ. Mavs tried to trade him for him for three years and had to give the Pistons picks to take him off their hands.

[@ThePrufessa]

He looks like Steve Lehto. Another fellow Michigander.

[@AndrewPolander]

Ausar not starting instead of THJ is beyond frustrating! Ausar is the future...don't understand JB!

[@TheKeysToWisdom]

THJ is on an expiring deal and they likely want to move him at the deadline to a contender who needs shooting. Ausar was not available to start the year and is shooting 25% from 3 and 50% from FT. THJ and Beasley are both going to be very wanted by contenders and then Ausar and Holland can play more. You don't tank your short term assets that you want to move.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

@@TheKeysToWisdom As always you make great points! We might be ablle to get a second rounder for THJ.Most Piston fans want us to resign Beasley!

[@TheKeysToWisdom]

@@pistonfanaticpodcast656 If you can extend him during the season then great. But if not he is unrestricted and is going to the highest bidder. I could see a path where both of them are moved along with a 2nd rounder to obtain a very late first. Beasley is valuable and the Pistons have room to absorb some bad salary even if it includes some for next year too. Beasley absolutely makes any contender who needs shooting so much better right away and if you take a bad contract with him and send a 2nd over that is worth a later 1st round pick. I like Beasley a lot but unless he is signed sealed and delivered right now moving him for another piece to build this team with would be nice too.

[@jewelrunner5137]

“Stomps around like the Incredible Hulk” is so accurate Dave 😂😂 I like Duren and he does show he likes his teammates, but just needs to play more composed. His turnovers are infuriating!

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Agree!

[@Just_a_Reflection]

The refs did a job on us, but I was glad to see that the dawg is starting to come out of Cade.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I am glad to see the Dawg coming out too!

[@alangraham418]

Coach Dave do you remember when Ray Scott won coach of the year for the Pistons? That also lead to a quick dismissal shortly thereafter

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I sure do remember now that you mentioned it! I loved Ray!

[@bluelantern5241]

Officiating is why the nba ratings are down. #1 reason by far. More than cord cutting, more than culture wars. The nba even admits that certain players and certain teams have "earned" certain calls. The nba might as well be the wwenba

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

You should have seen the Rockets Heat game last night! Eight ejections!

[@abedindurakovic8190]

Hey Dave, with this being the Nuggets vs Pistons, I want to ask. Do you remember anything about the 186-184 triple overtime game in 1983? Did you watch the game?

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Yes, I watched that game! It was CRAZY! That was a fun team to watch! Isaiah, Tripuka, and John Long all had over 40!

[@bobyang9687]

Tobias Harris is so garbage. He needs to be benched. And asur starts.

[@ramen-3ats]

tobias is supposedly there to provide spacing, but he's not doing that, if anything at all. ausar needs to start when his playing time is free from restrictions.

[@jerryalexander8803]

@@ramen-3ats I don’t think he has restrictions anymore, he played more minutes tonight than everybody on the team besides Cade

[@ramen-3ats]

@@jerryalexander8803 that's great!

[@billdoty6438]

Totally agree

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

@@ramen-3ats I am with you!

[@ramen-3ats]

holland will most likely shoot the 3 decently before ausar does. My ideal lineup should be Duren-Ausar-Beasley-Ivey-Cade.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

That is my ideal lineup too!

[@alimissilmani3783]

Cade was getting fouled every play down low and bringing the ball out. I feel like he played like he would get calls like last game but I guess not. NBA refs need to be consistent. Favoritism and games like this are one of the reasons why nba viewership is down. Hope JB sends some film into the league office because this shit is ridiculous.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Cade definitely got fouled multiple times! The good news is he is startimg to have more games where he is gettin some calls, just not consistantly!

[@alimissilmani3783]

@ definitely. Once he starts getting a fair whistle he might average 28-30

[@steveyj3002]

Westbrook does what Dennis rodman was a professional at and that is getting under an opponents skin

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Who can forget Rodman swatting his opponents on the butt to get under their skin!

[@TheKeysToWisdom]

No way on Ausar. Beasley is the only guy worthy of starting if a change is made.

[@cliffcleans]

This is not a shot, just reality. Nuggets best player was great tonight and ours was not. Three ball wasn’t going-couldn’t finish at the rim. Got baited into a tech by Russ. 2nd quarter stretch Cade was just having so many empty possessions and lead grew to 9. Then blown open in 3rd with mental lapses. Cade is more then allowed to have a bad night. It happens. But he’s gotta own a large share of this loss. No shame in that. 3-1 west coast road trip. Hopefully Cade can find his 3 ball. Last won games shooting has been rough. Paul Reed is our best big. I’m sorry to say. JB-if he’s got Steve Kerr level chops-would start Paul Reed and Duren would be the 3rd string big.

[@alimissilmani3783]

Agreed. I honestly feel like refs got into his head this game which can’t happen. He needs to come in knowing that he won’t get calls. I feel like getting calls last game and not getting calls this game messed with his mental.

[@billdoty6438]

Tobias Harris is a waste of space and money

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

He has been a disappointment and Ausar needs more minutes!

[@d3f1n3d2]

Tobias is ZERO D, rebounding, effort and playmaking. Male matters worse he is playing out of position and takes bulk of his shots outside of offensive flow.

[@ShahanNolan]

We got people on the bench that are better than some of our starters. So, play the best and win more games.

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Yes , he plays iso ball and takes like six dribbles to get off a shot and how many open corner threes has he missed?

[@LukeMooreAntivirus]

Westbrook is an idiot, but it’s hard to imagine he doesn’t do these things on purpose. There is a method behind the madness, a hubristic, pompous and flawed method.

[@Gretxky]

Respect Russ man wth

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

I respect what a freak athlete he is and even more how hard he plays every night! He just has no self awareness about how bad his jumper is!

[@Gretxky]

@@pistonfanaticpodcast656 he was a bonehead yesterday, but idiot? Could’ve still chosen a better choice of words

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

@@Gretxky You are right, bonehead would have been a better word!

[@samadagoat7769]

You piston fans should never talk basketball y’all not professional and don’t use logic but use emotion and how you feel about teams and players .. clouding your judgment.. horrible take

[@pistonfanaticpodcast656]

Most fans have their judgement clouded to varyin degrees! Enjoy your Nuggets!

[@samadagoat7769]

@@pistonfanaticpodcast656 most fans can use logic to understand what’s going on … only piston fans seem to not understand the game

[@Moss-z7c]

No doubt in my mind that game was rigged. Refs have friends who bet they tell them who to bet for and take a cut. Besides some bad shooting from fontechio and harris we actually played pretty decent. duren looked a little off. but really we should have won that game but how can someone win when you just get every single possible call. i think they had like 20 free throws in a quarter or something. meanwhile we would go hard to the paint and get beat up with no call. it was disgustingly obvious. This game in particular might make me stop watching the NBA forever there is just too much gambling money now and no morals with refs

[@joeshmoe2746]

Yea right if you think the league is letting some random men in stripes rig games for there friends your not so smart. The league has partner deals with the bookies and control the games themselves it's not up to the referee who to favor lmao.

[@Moss-z7c]

@@joeshmoe2746 totally wrong, how do you think games are manipulated, it's always via the refs. many ex players have already agreed with this happening, not to mention donaghy lol do your reasearch