Time Team S17-E09 Governor's Green

The Team visit Portsmouth to try and uncover one of the city's oldest buildings - a medieval hospital. But after three days of bone-chilling weather and confusing archaeology can the Team work out what stood on Governors Green over 500 years ago?

[@billclisham8668]

I have always appreciated Ian's control when operating the digger but when he put the bucket in the trench and pulkled out a piece of pottery.......just WOW! I think he could safely scratch your back with a JCB.

[@denisejones9625]

Love Ian being able to scoop up a piece of pottery with the digger!😅

[@vonries]

As a map maker I can tell you that those "Z" shaped lines on your building that was not to scale are a draftsman symbol for a length has been shortened and is not being drawn to scale on purpose. It's often used on very long straight lines where you are conserving room for something else. Therefore there was nothing wrong with your old map.

[@user-hy7zb2vl3t]

So a map makers "ah this big" sign. No offense meant...

[@JETWTF]

Victor Drawing Mick with a broken leg in the hospital picture was great.

[@scarletfluerr]

Phil beside him with his ale bowl. That might be Tony just penciled in beside them.

[@suntomymoon369]

I love it that Time Team entertains me so much during covid

[@simplyaudrorable]

A full year in and this is accurate for me too!

[@fusion-music]

It looks like Helen could do the next 100 years of Time Team without aging. She needs to be investigated and see what the magic is in her Genes. Perhaps Mick could manage another 100 year too. He still looks like father Christmas. Love these videos.

[@EJBenko]

Discovered Time Team on KZbin and absolutely love it!

[@ekayanaify]

Thanks for making these available...much appreciated

[@dinx556]

Yet another excellent TT.

[@TheSpikehere]

@40:50... "Whoever he may be..." Prince Platov was a Don Cossack general. he led the irregular forces that hounded the French out of Russia in the winter of 1812/13. Following on he commanded their cavalry in all the major battles up to Bony's abdication in 1814.

[@Wotdermatter]

Victor, as I have said before, is an unsung hero of this series. Look at the two characters at 43:26 and think about who they depict. Are they Mick and Phil portrayed in earlier lives, with an early/younger (?) Tony standing to the left? Well done Victor, what a caricaturist you are.

[@Seeker386]

Yes, you should look into his other work if you haven't already. We have a children's book that he illustrated in the 80's or so.

[@vickywhitesell4156]

Yes they are, Phil even has on his hat!

[@mikeradford5630]

Nicely spotted, Mick is depicted with crutches and a "gammy leg" as he seemed to have a penchant for breaking limbs.

[@GrahamCLester]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Ambrus

[@tygeron3145]

Well Mick will live on forever in this series and the drawing in this episode.

[@marniesweet4677]

Helen is a true Renaissance woman: beautiful, talented, creative, and very knowledgeable. Hooray, Helen.

[@stannousflouride8372]

+Marnie Sweet Welcome to the ranks of Geake's Geeks™ A short bio: She originally trained as a secretary. But reading archaeology books and attending lectures by Professor Mick Aston led her to study medieval archaeology University College London and subsequently to earn her PhD (in Anglo-Saxon burials) at the University of York. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Geake

[@samjohnstone1356]

I would love to get into Helens trench

[@TheSpikehere]

S.O.W.

[@JamieDaviesable]

Helen is fantastic. I can hazard a guess who gave her that scarf :-)

[@conorleeson-davis6666]

It's funny isn't it how different people see things so opposite end of the scale - personally, I can't stand the woman. She irritates me beyond belief and ruins every episode for me that she appears in. But hey-ho each to their own and all that.

[@melodyszadkowski5256]

I have a challenge for Time Team, should I ever build a TARDIS. Here goes: I have an ancestor who was buried at St. Alphage Churchyard Cripplegate, outside London. The church was closed by Act of Parliament at the end of the sixteenth century, and demolished, according to Wikipedia. The churchyard to the north of the London Wall was still open in 1677, but was subsequently built over. The last building on the site, using the London Wall as its southern boundary, was destroyed by bombing in the Second World War. Your mission: Find the church. :-)

[@MissCattitude63]

One dislike? What's not to like? It's got proper archeology, proper history and tons of British humour. And I wish YT would wise up and stop complaining every time somebody uses British English spelling. Truth is that British English is the only true English. The whole world knows this apart from YT (Google).

[@joshschneider9766]

Lolol a language influenced and altered by Tudors conquering William Saxons and dark ages Latin is pure nothing stop being an elitist. English is the world's longest running mashup language based on colonial empire and genocidal conquest before th at.

[@savantianprince]

Love this series. Love history

[@PoohBear2077]

love this show and the cast

[@stannousflouride8372]

The Governor's Green hospital site: 50°47'20.7"N 1°06'11.5"W The north-south road that borders the hospital is visible as a parch mark in the grass.

[@christophloewen174]

Thank You for posting these videos !

[@jan-eriktrres3654]

Does the word hospitality come from the old hospitals then, that was both providing for the sick as well as travellers and pilgrims ? They were receiving hospitality at the hospital ?

[@lisakilmer2667]

Yes. The root word for hospital is the same as for hostel and hotel and of course, hospitality.

[@bilgeratjim]

"I've got books on everything". Helen really does live up to her last name, lol.

[@lameesahmad9166]

The ring found on the site reminded me instantly of the Irish Claddagh’s (friendship) ring. The only thing missing are the hands holding the heart. But the face does show an attempt to make a design of some sort below the crown which may have been an attempt to engrave the hands on to it. The design and customs associated with it originated in the Irish fishing village of Claddagh, located just outside the old city walls of Galway, now part of Galway City. The ring, as currently known, was first produced in the 17th century. "The Claddagh's distinctive design features two hands clasping a heart, and usually surmounted by a crown. The elements of this symbol are often said to correspond to the qualities of love (the heart), friendship (the hands), and loyalty (the crown). The clasped hands on a ring is an ancient Roman tradition where it was called a fede ring. A fede ring is a design of ring in which two hands meet and are clasped in friendship, love or betrothal. The design is ancient going back to Roman times if not before. It became prominent in the medieval period from the 12th century onwards and in more modern times. The name fede is from the Italian phrase 'mani in fede' or hands clasped in faith. The way that a Claddagh ring is worn on the hand is usually intended to convey the wearer's romantic availability, or lack thereof. Traditionally, if the ring is: - 1. On the right hand with the point of the heart toward the fingertips: the wearer is single and may be looking for love. 2. On the right hand with the point of the heart toward the wrist: the wearer is in a relationship. 3. On the left hand with the point of the heart toward the fingertips: the wearer is engaged. 4. On the left hand with the point of the heart toward the wrist: the wearer is married. The ring found on the site might be crude and probably home made but the possibility is there that it might be a Claddagh ring. Who knows maybe it was worn by the wife of one of the Governor’s estate workers.

[@lameesahmad9166]

Maybe I am wrong, but the ring looks to me like a mans signet ring. Maybe the lover took his own ring and tried to make it special for his lady. Or maybe he could not afford a proper wedding ring.

[@charliebarracuda1251]

Call the leech "John gator" lol

[@zaygezunt]

Thanks for uploading these - I'm addicted! Please keep them coming, it is much appreciated. BTW I have subscribed to see your latest uploads asap

[@sarahcoleman5269]

Yay, they found my ring! :D

[@suntomymoon369]

XD

[@deniswilliams2212]

I hope Helen appreciated the fact she just slipped on a ring some woman hundreds of years ago lost or tossed away in a fit of anger We will never know So many people so many stories 😢

[@user-hy7zb2vl3t]

I wonder what the other would think of her wearing it😮

[@mossel1977]

5 people were history channel watchers. Not dumbed down enough

[@Mossyz.]

Thankyou for upload ive subscribed

[@patukott]

Thou shalt not argue about colours and tastes (meaning TT - well, information should not be a question of taste, but in real life it tends to be).

[@rocketamadeus3730]

Sick people and travelers occupying the same space, lol, the absolute worst combination.

[@blaggercoyote]

Rather than health, "hospital" refers to "hospitality" providing care for travellers.

[@user-hy7zb2vl3t]

Got cash or worth? Same ibet on accommodations there as with today. We are obligated now not solely on God but humanity to provide care. Doesn't mean we have to be in the building to get it😢

[@user-hy7zb2vl3t]

Don't mean to sound down beat sorry if I do😢

[@benediktmorak4409]

- for me a first time, even if the episode is from 2013. does not matter. always interesting - . or at least i thought so. but it is just a different downloader, nevertheless i watched it for a second time. even if the quality of the video is not the best.

[@doogalloonni]

What was the deal with Mick's insane sweaters? RIP...

[@user-hy7zb2vl3t]

High fashion before its time

[@billread664]

Henry VIII was a bit of a bastuart wasn't he

[@joshschneider9766]

He did alter th e religion of the entire nation so he could get a divorce and all lololq

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

Meh. One abrahamic hate cult replacing another.

[@MissCattitude63]

Mick sadly died ...

[@kurtbarks1]

Oh my god oh my god oh my God oh my God

[@brandonpliskin2310]

Google maps of governors green clearly shows parch marked buildings matching up with this episode

[@mermeridian2041]

Lol, Phil makes so much noise...

[@maddog2771]

Was here in October 2019

[@claudiamoser1802]

I'm here in May 2020

[@restezlameme]

44:38 OMG Alex Langlands! What are you doing in season 17?

[@scarletfluerr]

And where is Peter Gin?

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

I think this was his first appearance wasn't it? Such a cutie 😋

[@patukott]

Same here :)

[@JohnFenlon]

@20:23 Classic 😂

[@phillipburke9522]

Noone ever: God I love watching things in 240p

[@BlackIjs]

You'd probably enjoy the 1080p Time Team Classics on KZbin.

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

This is perfectly acceptable on a large phone even in 2022 lol why you bitching 🤣

[@mikesummers-smith4091]

@40:50 "Prince Platov, whoever he may be." Matvei Platov, hetman of the Don Cossacks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matvei_Platov A national hero in Ukraine.

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

Typical Tony being unimpressed with royalty but loving to find what they built, at other sites anyway. This denizen of the US is in the exact same boots. That said, I stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@katajha831]

Is that Alex Langlands in the trench below Phil at 47:55???????

[@roznormanton]

susan webb Yes, he's in the pub at 32" too!

[@katajha831]

Thanks. I thought so.

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

Yep they name him on screen too. Wasn't this his first appearance? Such a cutie 😋

[@shannonrhoads7099]

33:00 HDMS Glienten www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2397319 Serves on as the Montego (Portugal). This is a shot of her in her Danish Navy era, between 1992 and 2010. Cool shot.

[@rachelrose5761]

Thank you so much for uploading. I'm American and the first to tell you that our country is shit compaired to Great Britain. There so much history to be learned and seen all around you. Here it's like o, well it's old not in perfect condition even if Christ did sleep here lets tear it down. I will defend us on one point, were always blamed for not knowing what's happening in the world unless we're sending our army there. But you have to realize that our tv and news don't cover foreign affairs like they do in England. We're not told a lot of things until they send our army there. I guess you could say if it were the revaluation I would be a loyalist.

[@tonyoliver6797]

I really do love Great Britain, England in particular. You should take a holiday in South West near Cornwall and Plymouth. There are plenty of areas of archaeological interest all over the country. If you happen to go detecting over here in the UK and get a permit for some good land there is a big chance you will find coins, and other artefacts dropped by people working the land over hundreds of years and in many cases although seen as a lucky occasion, you may find a hoard. Although laws do apply and these hoards and burials add information to our history books that otherwise wouldn't have been there if they weren't found :)

[@Gitarzan66]

I'm American too from Denver. My grandfather came to the states from Carlisle England. I was really happy to find Time Team a couple years ago. I love watching the shows about "my country"

[@joshschneider9766]

You would be a loyalist now maybe but if you were randomly tossed into a he'll hold prison ship in the 1760s I guarantee you would not have been then.

[@WOLFROY47]

you didnt consider that their in a church come hospital, full of sick people, and the priest monk etc could carry the illness onto the ship, and ships were dodgy enough places already

[@lameesahmad9166]

Or maybe vice versa.

[@cathjj840]

They had no idea how disease was transmitted, so I doubt that was a consideration. The lady historian put her finger on it: follow the money.

[@MissCattitude63]

Don't forget his hotpants :). He was a lovely man.

[@deborahparham3783]

Still is.

[@mattmorrisson9607]

Am I the only one that thought it was odd that they could see two square pieces of flat pottery at the end and decide it was part of a large pitcher-type of pot?

[@lisakilmer2667]

That happens pretty often. It's all the way through the 20 years of TT. I think there are so many examples of pottery available that the experts can in fact draw conclusions from very small bits.

[@joshschneider9766]

Lisa is correct. Google "ceramics typography" to learn more. Enough sherds have been found and confirmed to create type info that is incredibly accurate. This is true globally

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

Those sherds are far from flat and could easily be extrapolated into a large-ish jug.

[@ann-marieleonard1921]

Tony to Mick ".....you make yourself sound older than you are". Both born in 1946.

[@MissCattitude63]

:)

[@dapappacn]

Having watched this series, I think it's fair to say that the British population is made up of Scandinavians, Germanic tribes and Gauls.

[@cathjj840]

Sort of. I believe it's mainly Britonics, celtic peoples of similar origins to the Gauls, then the Germanic tribes of Saxons, Angles and Frisians who conquered and mingled with them, although not so much in the west where many Britonics retreated. There is some Scandinavian input, but not very much. Scots are also of Celtic origin, and Pictish. There are traces of the original, old European hunter-gatherer people that the Celts largely replaced.

[@bernardtimmer6723]

Not really Chris, about 80 % of the genes of the population of the British Isles is Gaelic, 20 % the others you mention. This includes England.

[@dapappacn]

@@bernardtimmer6723 Hi there, Bernard. I think you might be referring to some older study. The latest DNA study I have been able to find says, on average, the mean Brit is about 65% European, all parts of continental Europe included, and 35% Anglo-Saxon.

[@Apscholle]

Seriously 240p? C'mon

[@richardevans8979]

Time for high resolution video Team

[@uw1955]

Although its a wonderful series, its funny when Phil stands amidst some walls telling Tony where there are walls, where they breakthrough other walls and no one can follow his explanations because no one does see the walls while he is standing on or in front of them. Not very much archaeology for three days. And in the end two little pieces of pottery . Is that really al to prove that there has been a middleages hospital?

[@joshschneider9766]

Given 500 years of ongoing construction it's amazing anything was left afterwards.

[@garethamery3167]

Bloody great big linear thing that is very different to the infill on either side...equals wall...as to the pottery, see other comments on this video on ceramics typography; it is very detailed and quite diagnostic...

[@Scotto6977]

Mick🌈sweater ✔️

[@suntomymoon369]

UwU

[@fcsgable]

N

[@garymitchell5899]

The maps aren't the problem (they all match with each other). The problem is the clowns plotting the maps onto the ground.

[@bluenoteone]

Like i said before, Henry VIII, not the great, did to health care then what the 20th century modernists and John XXIII with his Second Vatican II Moderist non-Council did to health care in that century. Thank you Henry, thank you modernist heretic John XXIII (interesting he took the name of a much earlier anti-pope, the first john xxiii.) But once again, I digress.

[@SharpAssKnittingNeedles]

Meh. One abrahamic hate cult replacing another.

[@gregb6469]

The young lady at the 46:44 mark is very pretty!