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[@michaelrobinson1945]

When I was in elementary school, we were taught that Columbus was Portugese. In later years he became Italian. Will the real Christofer Columbus please stand up..

[@alicelenehunter7220]

I am grateful for such a time as this; when there are scientists who seek to find and tell the truth to a world that has constantly lied. To protect and elevatereducing the value of others'. Deception has trained our generations while lack of accurate knowledge has kept them a death spiral identity struggles and self-worth doubts.

[@michaelrobinson1945]

He wasn't the first to think the Earth was round. The Norse knew that 500 years earlier.

[@ManuelRodrigues1024]

He was portuguese indeed

[@pop5678eye]

@@michaelrobinson1945 Any learned person living in civilizations with navigation knew the Earth was round since Ancient Egypt. In fact the Ancient Greeks even could calculate its circumference to within 5% of the value known today. The reason royals were hesitant to fund Columbus' voyage westward is because they knew about this value and thought Columbus' proposal was suicidal. Columbus thought the world was 1/3rd the size. His voyage to 'India' would indeed have been doomed had the American continent not been in the way.

[@stacyharris4824]

Columbus was actually a Jew !!

[@cooksmary]

I had a phenomenal fourth grade teacher, who taught us that CC was Portuguese. I have always thought this. How interesting. This teacher won no contests for being pleasant, but this woman taught us so much, in public school. Those were the days. The most important thing she did for me was to recommend library books to me, one of which was Maya Angelo's, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings. How did she know this book would touch my heart so?

[@MauricioJaguan]

she's one of those angels

[@marcomolinero5877]

She should have told you how to spell 'Angelou'.

[@cosimodirondo972]

It is the nice teachers we remember.

[@DavidLee-yu7yz]

@@marcomolinero5877 Does it matter!!!

[@cooksmary]

@@cosimodirondo972 She was not nice, but she was an amazing educator. Maybe she was not nice because she had so much to share with us and just had to do it. LOL

[@dwntwnbrwn]

Thanks!

[@Ditka-89]

Say what you want about Columbus, but it took some serious balls to sail thousands of miles into the abyss without knowing whether they would reach land

[@viderevero1338]

He really didn’t, he knew that there was likely something there, but believed it to be India.

[@JoseReyes-zw3tn]

It's a lie. And your children eat those lies up and don't know shiii about actual human history events. Cilvilization probably existed before the caucasian race evolved

[@canadianmmaguy7511]

@@viderevero1338 you don't think henry Sinclair coming to nova scotia with the vinland maps in the 1400s and colombus's templar flag on his ships might be connected?

[@joxepojoxepin2752]

@@JoseReyes-zw3tn what are you talking about? What's a lie?

[@rocioaguilera3555]

@@stoney332 Colón, yes, but not most of the crue.

[@iseejewelz3874]

Let me guess..... by the end we still won't know anything

[@TheAbrantino]

You will know about all myths we listen since kids here in Portugal

[@jkahgdkjhafgsd]

We are only 99% sure of the answer

[@histguy101]

Of course not. Documentaries are just carrots on strings dragging us along.

[@elainemoreland3908]

I do not believe much what Italians say not the church!

[@comdocteur3064]

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[@katmandudawn8417]

I would think that the fact that Columbus’s own sons did not know the truth of their origins says a lot. There were questions even during his life that he would not clarify. To me that means any obvious answer can’t be right or he would have admitted it. Many Jewish families at the time “converted” but quietly continued to practice their private observances. Later generations had no idea these little rituals were Jewish traditions.

[@stevenrowlandson4258]

The term Jewish is highly misleading as many foolishly believe the lie that it refers to a religion instead of race and nationality.

[@katmandudawn8417]

@@stevenrowlandson4258 I once asked a Rabi about that since I was confused. How can you convert to something that is also traced through your blood? He said it was both a bloodline and a religion. I guess that’s an answer. I figure in today’s world, those who consider themselves Jewish are Jewish and those who don’t, aren’t. Even with the modern ability to trace your ancestry, who you are has more to do with your choices and actions than some dot on a map your great great grandpappy came from. I would hope that this historic fixation with religious segregation would eventually end. It’s doesn’t matter how you say your prayers any more than what you do in your bedroom. Here’s a fun fact, the reason that Jews tended to be bankers, jewelers, money lenders, doctors etc. was that Medieval European law forbade them from owning land. They had to have businesses that they could pack up and run with if the neighbors got stupid. They were forced into those fields and then blamed for the power it gave them over the Christians population. It’s funny to me how a staunch Catholic is considered devout but a observant Jew is nefarious and suspect by the ignorant. Individuals are just that, individual. The sooner we stop viewing groups as uniform, the better society will be.

[@aliciao.5731]

@@katmandudawn8417 excellent observations.

[@vkngwmn6636]

@@aliciao.5731 yea...not really...p.c. opinions

[@vkngwmn6636]

@@katmandudawn8417 you're simple

[@white_box_gallery2113]

History has to be checked all the time...in the past several thousand years, access to true information was not available to all and literacy became widely accessible only in the past 2 centuries. History has been written by the victors and often by book burnings, humankind lost lots of information about previous era.

[@mcbusinessmonkey]

That's right. 'Christopher Columbus' is a completely fictitious character. The name means ' Christian Missionary's. It's a small part of Scallager's b.s. new world time line, paid for by the Vatican in the fifteenth century. Absolute rubbish, written by the victors.

[@iamwisdomfaye1192]

Exactly! He who conquers controls the narrative

[@iindavanderheyden3552]

this is why when I was a kid in high school I had an issue with my history teacher... he was telling something at one point in class..so I asked him questions....his answer was: its in de books!!! ... I said so if it is printed in a book then it means its the trueth? ....He got so mad at me... 30 minutes later I was at the principal"s Office..... I had a big mouth so got suspended.....I come from Holland we have a quote here: in the land where everybody is blind the man with one eye can see everything

[@webthing2046]

Yes I heard he didnt discover America

[@keyos1955]

​ @Luso515PorTuoGraal No doubts about the fact that he was Italian. The most important proof is the attestation retained at the historical archive of Madrid: "con sus genealogías correspondientes, conservado en el archivo secreto de la Orden y que, comenzando en el año de 1500, dice: AÑO 1535 Genealogía de don Diego Colón, natural de Santo Domingo. PADRES D. Diego Colón, virrey de las Indias del mar Océano, y doña María de Toledo. ABUELOS PATERNOS Christóbal Colón, natural de Saona cerca de Génova, y doña Felipa Moniz, natural de Lisboa." These are the words of the International University of Andalucia about this document: "Las confesiones de los informantes constituyen pruebas irrevocables. En su calidad de testimonios jurados, y por tanto de superior valor a las crónicas, albergan la particularidad de provenir de personas seleccionadas y autorizadas por el Tribunal del Consejo de las Órdenes para demostrar la legitimidad y nobleza, lo que habitualmente se conoce como “pruebas de sangre”, que fueron presentados por la familia más próxima al Descubridor y, por tanto, autorizados por los Colón para probar la legítima ascendencia del aspirante a caballero" This is the file: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/72021024.pdf

[@robynw6307]

So many of these documentaries end with "we are awaiting the results of further testing". Why can't they just wait for the results before finalising the doco? Maybe they don't want to risk a result that would negate the whole doco. Not saying this is the case here or in all docos like this, but it's so frustrating. It's like "let's finish on the same mystery we started with", and maybe we can make another doco in the future.

[@channelpopsick9319]

We don’t need the results..The Portuguese have known this for centuries..That Christopher Columbus was Portuguese born and bred..He left clues..He called the first island he found Cuba and all the surrounding islands by the names of towns identically..To the names of towns around Cuba in Portugal..I don’t know if he had a deal with Spain..That the king and queen of Spain would pay for all the ships and all the man power..But part of the deal was to lose his identity as a Portuguese..And to never claim that he was Portuguese under the Spanish crown..Because he kept his part of the deal right to death as he never told his two sons who and where he originally came from..Spain probably told him we will make you admiral you will go in the history books but you could never claim your Portuguese or we will take that all away from you..If that was the case he was still smarter than Spain..He became a spy and gave all the information to the king of Portugal before it even hit spain..Portugal already knew there was land to the west of the Azores in the middle of the Atlantic because they found the Azores in Madeira Islands in 1422..And this thing about Polynesians..Yes maybe they did go to America..And yes maybe the Vikings made it to America to..But none of them colonized or change the World🌎..Like the Europeans..And those Europeans were Portuguese.. The Portuguese found Brazil in the middle 14th century you trying to tell me they didn’t know about north America.. lmaooo Portuguese are smarter than the rest..Everyone else came in second and Third🥉..Like I’ve always said the conspiracy lives on still to this day..Just look and see how they treat Cristiano Ronaldo and how they treat the messI he Spanish speaking It’s still going on to this day.

[@robynw6307]

@@channelpopsick9319 Wow. That's a very wordy reply on something that I wasn't disputing. I agree with you that CC was Portuguese. Didn't dispute that in my comment. I was having a go at documentary writers/producers in general, not the content of this documentary specifically.

[@channelpopsick9319]

@@robynw6307 No offence taken..I agree with you they should’ve done DNA test immediately after the dock..I was thinking while watching it why don’t they take DNA from his sons..But anyways..This is just a tip of the iceberg..The truth has to come out..One way or another it will..And when that is proven it’s gonna open up the floodgates..Of other lies..Historians have always said the victors are the ones who write history..And this is true..But with Internet it has changed everything everybody has access to it..I’ve been reading books for over 30 years and Portuguese Spanish English and Dutch history.. and there’s a lot of fabricated history..But anyways thank you for your conversation..I enjoyed it

[@robynw6307]

@@channelpopsick9319 I enjoyed it too.

[@channelpopsick9319]

Robyn Webster Listen Robyn You take care of yourself..Right now in the world..There are things that are more important. There are homeless due to the pandemic..Economically financially and most important mental and physical health..But I’ve been waiting for this since I was a kid my father used to tell me..About Christopher ..And I’ve always had an interest in history especially Portuguese history.. four instance that the English found Australia..Portuguese found Australia 240 years before the English.. loll As soon as they put this to bed..And correct the lies in history books..The more we can face the truth in other Subjects of the world..God bless you and Godspeed

[@ilustlm]

Thanks

[@stefangabor5985]

It makes perfect sense; I have always wondered how a poor Italian had access to Portuguese royalty. In order to trust someone with that kind of money for the expedition he, himself, had to be well known and most importantly for that period, wealthy. Same things apply today. If someone goes to the bank without a penny and ask for 100,000 dollars loan for some sort of expedition would he get it?

[@connorcolquhou5845]

Anyone willing to do that got to do it everyone was afraid of falling off the side of the world. Plus you would rather send someone expendable than someone of value. It was a massive achievement for Spain, Spain could afford to pay handsomely . We haveverutungbbgtimnbbbi

[@lxportugal9343]

@@connorcolquhou5845 No man no.... He married the daughter of a noble family.... that was not possible at that time unless you were noble as well

[@quickchris10]

A good salesman could sell a loan officer on it if he had co-signers.

[@fredtorres1703]

$100,000.00? More like several million...your comment is logical...

[@enricomanno8434]

The Colombo family used to own feuds in Cuccaro but they losted.. Sure wasn't from a poor family... he fout the Moriscos as a captain of the Spanish kings in 1492

[@digemsmacks5690]

What about using oxygen isotopes from Christopher Columbus' teeth? This should be a direct link to the area a very young and growing Columbus grew up in.

[@lexigrimhaive]

That seems like a perfectly obvious step to take. I’m just staring the doc. but as far as I know, no one even knows for certain where his body rests.

[@Colombonovo]

We don' have access to Columbus' teeth because Santo Domingo has refused access.

[@dogfan4lyfe]

@@Colombonovo why not test his brother’s uncontested remains?

[@Colombonovo]

@@dogfan4lyfe nobody knows exactly what bones belong to who because a full investigation in Santo Domingo and Havanna has not been done to compare with the bones in Seville. - Only the son buried in Seville Catedral is known to be him: www.columbus-book.com

[@giorgiodifrancesco4590]

@@dogfan4lyfe Because his brother always said and wrote they were genoeses. The show must go on.

[@nedmancini6843]

Excellent documentary. It left me convinced that C.C. is definetly Portuguese. The Cuba connection makes it very clear.

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin .

[@kennedysingh3916]

I live in Jamaica and some years ago I saw a local documentry about our local Jews who made clames that Columbus was a Jew and one purpose of his voyage was to find countries to resettle Jews. I have visited the Jewish synagogue in Kingston (the capital) and the floor is covered with sand and I was told this is so to remind them of the Spanish Inquisition. From other local historical sores I learn that it was the Jews living in Jamaica piloted the English into Jamaica and organised the Spinish surrender and as a result the were allowed to live freely on the island. Their are many Jamaicans with Jewish ansecery but are not aware.

[@abdulcelilask7128]

Correct 👍

[@sandraolivacce4559]

Because the first Jews were black people. Black people have always been here, others stole our history. Nobody discovered Africa as black people were there already. We should be coming together and demanding that history be retold with the truth.

[@sgonzo5572]

@@sandraolivacce4559 no

[@sandraolivacce4559]

@@sgonzo5572 why not

[@sgonzo5572]

@@sandraolivacce4559 because dna evidence doesn't support that theory.

[@darkisland04]

I have Simon Wiesenthal's book on Columbus's Jewish background. He points out a number of indications that Columbus was from a Portuguese Converso family, and shows that most of his sailors were also of Jewish background. If he was also a Templar, that would be very interesting, since there is a great deal of archaeological and documentary evidence that the Templars had trading settlement in North America (Nova Scotia and other places) for at least 100 years before his voyage.

[@matthoward7645]

Please provide links for the vast amount of proof of this.....................

[@matthoward7645]

@@bigbywolf586 if people wanna say there is a massive dearth of evidence then I'd like the links and proof, pretty standard thing to do diphead

[@maxsterling8203]

With regard to Columbus’s possible ties to the Templars. Would that be the medieval Templars or the Knights Templars or the Masonic Templars or am I positing their connection/non connection at the risk of answering the question who was Columbus really ? Help! 🫠 this is extremely fascinating

[@matthoward7645]

@@maxsterling8203 this is why I asked for links 🤣 I wanna see the source material

[@maxsterling8203]

@@matthoward7645 crickets till now yeah yeah I am speculating, but his (Columbus) secrecy at his time of death could be a clue. Basically , it’s just as possible that the formation of a unique brand of nomadic order as internationally (@bigby wolf) unintentional (being a nation state wasn’t the original orders intention) as it may have been was eventually subject to monarchy’s political ideation alongside empirical evidence it is called hi|s|tory. the penultimate of the napoleon complex.

[@christiansoldier77]

I love historical mysteries like this.

[@jideofor.brightbright4488]

Are you a solider

[@eileensullivan3676]

Try the Mallorcan theory. First 2 books in English: See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019).

[@glenfordburrell2133]

His Jewish ancestry is probably true because there are many Jewish cemeteries in and around Jamaica. My Grandfather is buried Falmouth, Jamaica of which is a Jewish Cemetery. In the hamlet of Kettering, Jamaica a Cable and Wireless mobile transmitter had been installed over the burial site of his brother, Robert. East of St. Ann's, Jamaica, I stumbled upon a well that was built by the crew of members of one of his ships. I think it was La Nina. The locals, at the time were very upset because a German salvage team had discovered it's wreckage and had hauled up it's many treasures in return for 200 Mercedes buses - which didn't materialise! We must remember that Columbus never ever set foot on what we call present day America but he did live in Jamaica for over two years in and around Discovery Bay, Jamaica.

[@vascoespañol]

Dude it was a Spaish expedition, he did not decide who was in the crew

[@johntabuchi6831]

The Germans and the jews are the same people Ashkenazi they had rights to it .

[@luanaspa4400]

Yes, many Jews fled to Jamaica to escape Spain's persecution for not converting to Catholicism, the religion that Revelation refers to as the harlot of Babylon and who are now wanting to bring in the one world religion to go along with the NWO.

[@freehermanjose5816]

@@johntabuchi6831 IQ, where are you?... 🥱

[@mrbaab5932]

@@johntabuchi6831 Askenazi Jews are about 55% Middle Eastern and about 45% Eastern and Central European. So Ashkenazi Jews are part German. Most of the Portuguese and Spanish Jews back then were Sephardic Jews from North Africa.

[@nickerson1898]

I live on the south tip of nova scotia, all those explorers sailed right by 100s of years ago...pretty cool. and thank you for uploading.

[@blainedesjarlais3137]

I live in Richmond, BC. CANADA in Steveston Village where they also have sailed and left landmarks..

[@melikama]

The portuguese fishermen had long traversed the grand banks, just as the Macassans had fished trepang off the northern coast of Australia, dating back at least four hundred years. Portugal, during the age of exploration, was highly secretive, regarding it's discoveries, such as (some believe) that of the east coast of Australia, in the 1520's. This hemisphere had been 'granted' by the Pope, to Spain. Portugal could not risk war with Spain, or to have them seize Portuguese territory. Official history, has always consisted of smoke and mirrors; and more so today, with computer technology designed to obscure the facts. There has only ever existed one legitimate source of truth on this earth; against which, all things (esp. the Person in the mirror) can accurately be measured. Ecclesiastes 12:11-14.

[@riggs20]

What about Leif Erikson? I thought he stopped in and said hello. 😊

[@thepreacherxi5353]

It seems odd to me that the person in question i.e. Christopher Columbus does not want to reveal his identity even on his death bed but here are we are spent so many time, effort, and money to find it.

[@DMS-pq8]

Or maybe he did and for some reason his sons lied about it

[@johnwilson5637]

It's highly probable that the sons would have been persecuted by the Spanish had news of his 'treachery' reached them. He may have kept quiet in order to keep them safe.

[@jimstepro1666]

I was curious about the hidden Identity thing myself. Why, would someone Conceal their Identity? My thoughts, out of Fear? Or, perhaps he was Ashamed of his Actions?

[@victoriameyers5870]

@@johnwilson5637 agree. He never spoke to keep them safe.

[@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL]

Jews were expelled from Spain in, you guessed it, 1492, although I think the Ottoman Muslims sent some ships to rescue thousands of Jews from Spain at that time.

[@michaelgeraci8120]

"Zarco" (the surname of Christopher Columbus' mother) is found in the province of Liguria, Italy, in a small town right outside of Genoa. Perhaps his father was the Portuguese prince and his mother was from a Sephardic Jewish family that settled in Liguria, Italy?

[@thomas25082]

His plot was to find gold it was in the Philippines

[@Manuel1974PT]

No

[@yanf525]

That’s what they are saying and I believed them.

[@boxerfencer]

Interesting, but would one of Columbus' sons, who went 3 times to Genoa and found nothing, missed that?

[@Loranzojose2000]

According to the Real Academia Española, Zarco is a common Hispanic name which comes from the Hispano-Arabic zárqa , related to the classic Arab zarqā, which means 'one that has blue eyes'.

[@tb1534]

Some of these comments just make me shake my head. But I am glad we have documentaries like this.

[@pearlfeather9326]

Why is your head shaking??

[@fishofgold6553]

Which comments are you referring to?

[@eileensullivan3676]

Probably from what is now the North East coast of Spain. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

[@kathleenklein4231]

One of my Hebrew school teachers said that there was Hebrew in CC's writing. I believe it was the Hebrew abbreviation ב״ה which is often written on top of pages. It means "with the help of G-d". If he is descended from a Jewish mother, who could blame him for not telling anyone this. Both CC and his son's lived at the time of the Spanish Inquisition. You could die if you were Jewish and didn't 100% convert.

[@brothertonywoullard3272]

Google dum diverses should help fill in some blanks 100% behind you though

[@michellelafaye2721]

Hebrew also uses math embedded within the language. All three of the Abrahamic religions have slaughtered non believers as a part of their doctrine. Non Catholic Christians have been an exception. Nearly all other Nations have basically been Theocratic and intolerant of individual choices.

[@eileensullivan3676]

See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). Mallorcan theory--lots of Jewish Colombs there, map makers, etc.

[@savvageorge]

Also many Jews became Christians voluntarily. This was actually how Christianity was created during Roman times. Semitic people were the most advanced sailors in the ancient world so it's very likely that most Christian sailors have Jewish decent.

[@jimmythe-gent]

@@savvageorge You mean Arabs, Egyptians and Aryans?

[@sophiemarcaurele]

How regal and unassuming is the Portuguese duke? I’d love to be a tea guest and listen to this gentleman’s stories all afternoon 🤗 🎩 🍵 👑

[@edoedo8686]

En serio si....

[@dovbarleib3256]

Luis de Torres, who was Columbus's navigator and interpreter on the Santa Maria, was a known Jew. De Torres records in his diary that Yom Kippur fell near the end of Columbus's 1st maritime journey. On that night Jews fast, and many pious Jews do not lie down or sleep. He records on the actual night of Yom Kippur, Columbus stayed up all night on deck placidly staring into the darkness. He refused to even lie down or to go to sleep. He records that at no other time during the journey did Columbus refuse to lie down in his quarters after dark.

[@jmac3804]

Interesting

[@brrrrrrelhelicopteroytefui5746]

Now think about why would he bring a Jew interpreter to the America’s 🤔🤔🤔🤫🤫🤫 Qam yasharahla

[@dovbarleib3256]

Because Columbus left Spain on the 1st day of of the Hebrew month of Av in 1492, 8 days before all Jews had to leave Spain, convert to Catholicism, or die. Most left with Ferdinand's Jewish advisor, Don Abarbanal, crossing the border out of Spain on that date of the 9th of Av. Others became Maranoes, pretending to be Catholics on the outside while secretly practicing Judaism. A few others like Luis De Torres found another way out of Spain.

[@dovbarleib3256]

But this is where things get more interesting. The Gregorian dates and the Julian dates in the 15th Century were likely 9 days off from each other. I believe in the 16th Century when Pope Gregory set up the Gregorian calendar, the pope added 10 days to the calendar sometime in March? (need confirmation, March 4th I think), and the day after March 4th was March 15th or in order to account for the discrepency between the 2 calendars over the previous 12 centuries from the time of the Council of Nicea. Presto, ten days were simply removed from time to account for a year which was really 365.2425 days long and not 365.25 days long. So if Feb 29th is not added 3 times every 400 years, the calendar more accurately tracks the length of 1 solar year. This accounts for 10 times during a 1200 year history when there should have been no Feb 29th while the Julian calendar does not make such "minor" adjustments. If we add 9 of those days to the Julian date of Columbus's journey on the 3rd of August 1492, we arrive at the fact that Columbus actually left on the 12th of August according to the yet to be established Gregorian calendar. (In the year 1500 there would have been no Feb 29th according to Pope Gregory's calendar accounting for a full ten days. So in reality Columbus left Spain on the 10th of Av, not the 1st of Av and arrived at San Salvadore on the 21st of Tishrei, which was the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles, 11 days after Yom Kippur. So Luis De Torres left Spain the day after the Inquisition had already begun.

[@dovbarleib3256]

Oh, and the 7th day of the Feast of Tabernacles, when land was spotted, has another name in Hebrew. It is called Hosha Na Rabbah or Hossana Rabbah, THE GREAT SALVATION, .... perhaps accounting for Columbus's name for the new island, San Salvadore?!

[@mnpd3]

I'm in my 70's. Our education about Columbus in grade school was that he was a great explorer. His rep has changed to a rap.

[@eileensullivan3676]

Not everybody will take the chances he did. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

[@heatherygraine5836]

I would compare him which another very mysterious character: Shakespeare. Both claimed this humble origin and I believe it is not true of either.

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

[@colmmeade1824]

It's a very interesting doç bout Christopher Columbus

[@profoundilluminati]

Both men belonged to the same tradition. It may be a long time before we can come to find who he really was.

[@richardsequeirateixeira]

It’s been said that he has been of Iberian origin more than Italian. Some say that his signature style was that of the contemporary style of the Catalans. As for Columbus being Portuguese, it is highly plausible since he did marry into the Portuguese family, the Perestrellos. The wife, was one of the comendadoras of a convent in Portugal.

[@adelking66]

He also a from a morisco family who have sailors who can read Arab maps

[@pilleheinloo3371]

At that time, Catalan and Portuguese Royal families (the original catalan royal family, not the castillian one that became occupier to the catalan-aragones crown in 1413) were related to each other and there were some marriages among them. It is plausible he was 50% portuguese and 50% catalan.

[@richardsequeirateixeira]

@@pilleheinloo3371 the Iberian kingdoms were all related by blood in someway or another. Game of Thrones all over again.

[@themaskedman221]

@@richardsequeirateixeira No serious historian believes what OP wrote.

[@Janemas]

Very true. Catalan is a high possibility.

[@Windsingerful]

This was very interesting to me, as I have ancestry in Cuba, as well as Spain and Portugal. As an African American, I knew of the Cuban/Spanish root of my maternal grandfather, but the amount of Portuguese was over 4%. They commentators spoke of Portugal’s desire to lay claim to Brazil and Africa for the “raw material wealth”, but no mention to the millions of human beings enslaved and forcibly transported to Cuba (Caribbean) and Brazil, where most of the entire transatlantic slave trade delivered their human cargo. They too were considered “raw material wealth” (gold) and I think it’s quite disingenuous to gloss over that particularly horrific point. Not to mention the slaughter “Columbus” and the Portuguese administered through the “New” world, killing, enslaving, and transporting indigenous people from the moment of first contact in the Caribbean to various port on both sides of the Atlantic, Portugal, Cape Verde Islands, and African countries like Angola . Tell the whole bloody truth.

[@Christofurr]

The subject of the documentary is Columbus. The transatlantic slave trade started well after his death. Why should they feel the need to cover it here?

[@brotherkhalil]

@@Christofurr Because he helped initiate the trans atlantic slave trade!!

[@Christofurr]

@@brotherkhalil by that reasoning, the inventor of the sail boat helped initiate the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Does a documentary about sail boats need to have a section covering the subject?

[@michellelafaye2721]

I couldn't agree more. The more we go down the rabbit holes the more confusing it all becomes. All of humanity deserves the whole truth. I've never been a fan of Royalty or Elite status for the simple fact that they fully believe that they are the God Chosen rulers of the entire earth. That is all that every great Empire existed for. What divine right do we have to go into the lands some one else is living on and destroy every facet of their lives for some worthless metal, that ends up contaminating the water, air, and foods. A lot of tribal people didn't believe in digging deep into the "skin of mother earth". All of those lands run by Emperors were focused on wealth. The indigenous were far more rational and accepting of their lot in life. I'm not too sure at this point who was wiser. Where we are headed next is certainly not a good place. And, I'd rather take my chances with the Indigenous than where we're headed.

[@ayeshasyed1899]

Absolutely fascinating, please do a part 2 when more evidence comes to light.

[@jc9724]

You can find that "evidence" after the America destroying Left makes it up.

[@helenshg4580]

@@jc9724 The left is definitely in control. Conservatives are behaving like prosessionary caterpillars that follow a leader. If the caterpillars are placed in a round barrel, they will follow the leader in a circle inside the barrel until they die of starvation. I am a conservative. We need to start using our brains & start counteracting problems, & forming a new culture. Conservatives are in really bad shape right now.

[@realramone3455]

@L.aE.cH. Empire Boring...

[@colmmeade1824]

Yes exceptionally well narration

[@AngryNegativeHistoryProject]

Let me know next time you waste my time

[@alcoholfree6381]

“Secret agent man, secret agent man; we’ve given you a number and taken away your name!” CC=001?? License to explore and grab gold.

[@alexc.c.4025]

D.E.V.O

[@stephaniecrow7387]

HISTORY IS ALWAYS CHANGING, AS WE DISCOVER NEW TRUTHS

[@brittanyferera5177]

Especially since so much has intentionally been hidden from mankind!

[@jimstepro1666]

Something I found interesting. Break down your first Word, His-story. What made me think of telling you this, another Word you used. Truth I don't believe, it's merely a grammatical coincidence. History. His-story. The Lies of History, as we are Told, we are even warned, that these are Lies. A Story... Peace

[@vitorcosta5783]

Now how would a Italian man born of a poor genoan family be granted an audience the 2 most powerful and influential royal families in Europe at the time, that to me is enough, he was either Portuguese or Spanish, most likely Portuguese considering Portugal were at the forefront of navigation, Italy was far from an explorative nation, that honour was solely in Portugals and Spains hands

[@JohnSmith-rw8uh]

Italians were good navigators, Columbus and Amerigo Vespucci.

[@mauriziodirosa6411]

Genova è stata una grande repubblica marinara insieme Pisa Venezia e Amalfi grande tradizione marinara , gente di grandi navigatori

[@realramone3455]

@@JohnSmith-rw8uh A voluntary ignorant, you are. Italians couldn't navigate on the open sea like the portuguese did, they lacked navigation proficency, skills and technology. Italians could only navigate in the mediterranean. Columbus was portuguese

[@realramone3455]

@@mauriziodirosa6411 But only in the mediterranean, not on open sea like the portuguese...

[@eileensullivan3676]

@@JohnSmith-rw8uh Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, I think, not a Colombo from Genoa. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

[@adrianalainez8499]

He married a noble woman. Something a commoner could never have done.

[@conceicaotavora5599]

Com uma Zarco, era casado com uma Zarco e não filho!

[@johninaryan951]

Of course they did, happened a couple of times.

[@VeraDonna]

@@conceicaotavora5599 ele casou com a filha de Bartolomeu Perestrelo, não uma Zarco.

[@conceicaotavora5599]

@@VeraDonna tem razão já verifiquei, obrigada

[@ahmedislam2580]

he was very smart

[@robertawilkes6531]

Very interesting Closed Captioning would have been helpful

[@RonaldMcPaul]

That epic Columbus family acting in the intro brought me to tears /s

[@chewy7192]

What could possibly make you cry in that scene? Nothing wrong with crying but crying over nothing at all or even less like a few bad actors in a 2 min clip. Why did you post that?

[@adrianalainez8499]

@@chewy7192 get over it.

[@ana-OM]

Laughing tears 😂😂😂

[@giorgiodifrancesco4590]

That scene never happened in the reality. The secret of the Columbus family was not the origin, but the profession (pirates, antispanish, pro-portuguese corsairs). Italian archives are full of documents about it and spanish too. Nobody doubted about the nationality of Columbus before the XIXth century (XIXth and XXth centuries were those of nationalism).

[@intheforest7482]

@@chewy7192 I think he was just saying how hilarious the acting was. It was truly horrific 😂

[@talkintequila483]

If 4 of his grandchildren were buried in a tomb at the family’s church, why the heck couldn’t they extract DNA from them instead? Am I listening wrong or what?

[@jjones8813]

My thoughts exactly. Great (Jones) minds think alike.

[@anasan00]

He had lovers ....etc

[@terintiaflavius3349]

I would assume that they would have to get permission from either living descendants or from the authorities.

[@boxerfencer]

Columbus' DNA is not the issue. There are many descendants alive today, who can provide DNA. The issue was tying the Columbus DNA to Portuguese aristocracy, to figure out if his paternal parentage was indeed the duke mentioned in the documentary.

[@Kakatawaga]

@@boxerfencer Exactly.

[@codenamecatatonic8894]

This is a great episode

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

It's difficult to read a documentary but that's what is needed to get through this one.

[@monkeymonk2278]

I was taught in American jr high school 17 or 18 years ago that Christopher Columbus was from Portugal. I had no idea that there was any other idea. This to me is like finding out that Germans claim Joan of Arc was German. It's weird.

[@peachbellini2615]

Right?! I still can't believe that basically everything we were taught in school is "kinda true" but mostly wrong ..lol.. you can imagine my surprise when I learned that Benedict Arnold wasn't actually the horrible person we were taught he was.. he had many redeeming qualities rarely mentioned! Now they're trying to tarnish Columbus's image after teaching for years that he was "heroic" ..wow.. future generations will be so much wiser than we can imagine!

[@marcyoverby3120]

Did you do your own research to make up your own mind. Not what some one tells you.

[@cosmoray9750]

He is Korean. He is related to Kim Jong-un 😄😜🤪😁😄

[@bl00dline360]

@@cosmoray9750I didn’t know that I thought he was Spanish

[@anthonylafayette4385]

@KAREN4CHRIST.. The bible was written approx.80 years after the death of Christ. None of it being true.

[@robertschlesinger1342]

Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

[@clover9964-p7s]

My grandfather’s ancestors are from a town in Puerto Rico where all of the cousins were intermarrying and were direct descendants of the first colonists who showed up with the Columbus armadas. Christopher’s brother stayed in PR and made families . People with the Colon surname are descended from the Columbus brothers. All of us cousins are on a fb page and we have shared our dna results and we all have half Portuguese and Spanish ancestry as our majority European markers. No Italian. Columbus’s descendants are actually Spanish speaking Puerto Rican’s

[@solar7907]

Yeah I found out I was a descendant yesterday but always remember dna test aren’t 100% accurate and probably won’t be able to trace something as far back as the 14-1500s

[@clover9964-p7s]

@@solar7907 Well actually my grandfather's ancestors and relatives were part of the elite of the Caribbean and some of them still are involved in that society. So yes I know exactly who they were down to the first aristocratic men that showed up to colonize dominican republic and puerto rico. They also intermarried throughout all those generations because they did not want to mix with other people. The family also kept good records with genealogy books and the old churches that are available for the public to study at a university in puerto rico. Historical scholars on the island did good jobs in that regard.

[@cindybogart6062]

That must be great to be part of that family!!

[@cindybogart6062]

@@clover9964-p7s that’s must be great knowing your Ancestry goes all the way back to Chris Columbus! You have any old stories that have been passed down in your family about all this, that would be so interesting to hear!

[@Aikaplan]

@@cindybogart6062 i

[@chevtruck1000]

Back in grade school in the 70's we were taught that he was Portuguese and worked for the Spanish Queen. Nothing about Italy was ever mentioned.

[@chevtruck1000]

@Mike_13th Yes I was. Probably the best thing that ever happened to me.

[@frenchartantiquesparis424]

Fascinating.....! Love from Porto, Portugal

[@jaiprem7413]

“Success has a thousand fathers”

[@chichi6796]

Profound

[@DebbieDearth]

Jai Prem Accurate...

[@cindybogart6062]

Thank you for this fascinating story of Columbus. I’ve always been interested in this man. I know a lot of work went into this by so many people. Everything I have learned here makes so much sense. I was taught in college that he was Português. I can’t wait to go to Spain & Portugal this coming year. So much history that we have learned is wrong & no one wants to change the narrative.

[@pamelamorris3148]

What year did you go to college as these would be interesting to know since most books have him from Genoa.

[@cindybogart6062]

@@pamelamorris3148 I was in college in the late 80s & again in the mid 90s

[@PEN-N-PAL]

@@pamelamorris3148 : *This is old news, it's been widely known that Columbus was Portugues for decades now.*

[@rosehurlston4113]

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[@richard526]

@@pamelamorris3148 most books are wrong , many of todays history books as used in the US serve modern days agendas. I would suggest that in any subject that interest you go beyond your high school books and do research.

[@csbalachandran]

Brilliantly made and presented forensic history and geography. Thank you for sharing this documentary. Kudos to all concerned!

[@curtisstewart9426]

When I was in Grade School, two people were virtually idolized. They were General and later President of the US, George Washington, and Christopher Columbus. We even sang a song of Columbus in the classroom. Then, later becoming an adult. I can understand why Columbus is no longer idolized as before.. The Italian Americans still love him today though. He's their hero.

[@theviceroyofreality7073]

In what century were you in grade school? We were taught he was fundamentally evil and Columbus day was hyphenated with Indigenous, e.g. Columbus-Indigenous day.

[@maurichaelr.101]

@Salvatore Costagliola, search again. Amerigo Vespucci was another lie that he was an explorer who named America. We all have taught that Columbus discovered America or Amerigo Vespucci did first. The real fact is, the indigenous named the South America as Amaruka which derived from a large serpent. Well, it is too much to explain. Go do some research.

[@curtisstewart9426]

@@francisdrake7060 I should have said Italian Americans. I don't come in contact with Italians born in Italy. Perhaps their grandparents were? I edited my comment.

[@eileensullivan3676]

Sad fiction! . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

[@birkethaumuller-grobler7826]

This is so weird to watch this. When I was in primary school many years ago, our history books stated that Columbus was Portuguese in service of Spain on his voyages...that is what we were taught. 🤔

[@noir6632]

Exactly. This is actually well known and a well-founded fact, but it seems Italians are not having it and no matter the amount of consensus around it they will ever allow it to be generally accepted and history to be corrected.

[@giorgiodifrancesco4590]

@@noir6632 Ahahahaha. Siete ridicoli.

[@isaluz7859]

Sorry but where did you go to school? Netherlands?

[@keyos1955]

Lol, which fake school you went? Columbus was born inside the Genoan territories, all know this. There are countless acts that prove how he passed his youth in Italy

[@isaluz7859]

@@keyos1955 there are countless documents and DNA that prove he's Portuguese

[@tinkerstrade3553]

Perhaps I have forgotten a few things at 70, but I distinctly remember being taught that Columbus was a Portuguese sailor that lived in Itlay, but because of wars couldn't obtain funding from the king for his voyage. He then turned to Spain and Queen Isabella. Did I believe this story? Well, even in grade school I knew enough to disbelieve the part about her hocking her jewels to bestow money on this lowly sailor. And being Native American, I am always leary of tales twice told. Though it is counterintuitive, the past is easier to mold than the future.

[@786humaira1]

Well said my Native American brother : PASTis easier to mold than the future .

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in eng.

[@diegorivera6500]

There is another theory which claims that Colombus was originally from Galicia, as Galician language is very similar to the Portuguese, most of the words he uses in his writing exist in the Galician language not just in Portuguese, that will also explain how he managed to speak so well Spanish for being a foreigner.

[@jeffbillings-el6110]

@Jesus Bermudez Do you kind to explain that comment ???

[@fragolegirl2002]

@Jesus Bermudez it’s not about claiming anything it’s about facts given by actual historians kzbin.info/www/bejne/goCYfaippc-FatU Manuel Rosa is more believable than the other guy Mancini click on link. Christopher never wrote in Italian or Genoese that seems odd.

[@plusultra6199]

@Jesus Bermudez And the Portuguese do the same then?1

[@joao49758]

@Jesus Bermudez But no one can prove he was from Genova …

[@joao49758]

@Jesus Bermudez In spanish archives it is documented that he mentioned Portugal as “mi tierra”

[@DaleDirt]

Thank you for the Clarification .

[@ShakeOneOfficial]

800 years of Islamic Spain & Portugal & Switzerland (Al Andalusia) showed Columbus the way to the Americas. Check out the Islamic maps of the world in Istanbul Turkey museum. (All Carbon dated)

[@SaltyMinorcan]

@@jamstagerable history

[@arletebarbosa7048]

@@jamstagerable It is relevant because the foundation of Western civilization namely Europe, is based on the Middle East. That’s why historians refer to north Africa and the Middle East as the birthplace of civilization. Things such as mathematics, science, medicine, astrology, etc., Europeans like the Greeks and Romans were introduced to these type of concepts by interacting with peoples such as the Egyptians for example. Speaking of navigation, the Phoenicians were navigators in addition to inventing the alphabet. pPortuguese and Spanish culture has a lot of influence from the Arabic world as a result of the invasion and occupation of northern Africans who mixed with the Arabs and adopted their culture and religion by integrating it into their own. They lived in parts of the Iberian peninsula, specially the south, for almost 800 years. By saying this I am not saying that there were not other civilizations and groups of people that were advanced or had a certain level of knowledge in astrology, medicine, mathematics, etc. But in the case of Europe and countries founded by descendants of Europeans such as the United States, a big part of what they are founded on is based on civilizations from the Middle East and in case of Spain and Portugal that includes ancient civilizations from North Africa, namely Morocco.

[@nazarenoorefice2104]

Admitted and granted that Columbus was Portuguese, this does not argue in favor of Portugal. In fact, Colombus tried for years to be sponsored by Portugal but received nothing. the credit goes to Queen Isabella, who sponsored the man ,a foreigner ,who made Spain great. Admitted that vikings or English fishermen reached america before Columbus those people travelled risking their lives for thousand of miles. But they did not bring to Europe potatoes tomatoes chocolate parrots cane sugar or anything interesting . What a clever folks. Who cares if Columbus was from Genoa or jew or polish . But Spain did a great investment and this trip had incredible consequences.Good and bad. It was the very beginning of the globalisation

[@doolittlemaccarrone8126]

Very interesting premise

[@TheNivalf]

@@ycarips9137 only racists make everything about race.

[@adrianalainez8499]

Portuguese, Castillians, Aragonese, Galicians, Catalans and Basque. All Iberians. All Hispanic. All SPANISH.

[@TheRestInPeace]

"In fact, Colombus tried for years to be sponsored by Portugal but received nothing" - Well, because Portugal wanted the easy cash that comes with the spices instead of investing time, money and ressources on a "new World" that would lead, inevitably, to war with powerful countries like Spain and France. thats why Colombus was needed - even the trade with India could lead to war if spain didnt had something calling their attention, ressources and time

[@nazarenoorefice2104]

@@TheRestInPeace Portugal had amazing geographical advantages, the Azores islands as a halfway base through the trip and they were Portuguese. There was also no reason why Portugal should have made Columbus's voyage public . Please read the Bobadilla dossier found in 2006.The book from Consuelo Varela La caida de Cristobal Colon All the people who describe Columbus as a very bad person refer to the Bobadilla dossier found in 2006. It is a document of which no historian denies the origins.It is about 22 people who must testify in court against Columbus.Bobadilla an inquisitor for the Spanish Royals accuses Columbus for mismanagement of the colony. If you read it it is obviously slanted , one sided. But however the bad foreigner was arrested .Bobadilla got what he was looking for. According to all historians, Columbus was a person incapable of governing even though he was a great navigator. the problems created by Colombo and his two brothers who ruled with him were very badly digested by the Spaniards who subsidize the company and who did not like being commanded by 3 foreigners.Very understandable. Somebody even says in court that he wanted to give the island to the Genoese. Very difficult now to mantain that he was not from Genoa. Read please his will.And all doubts will fly away. We can therefore think that the accusations against Colombo are very exaggerated in court. Like every accusations made by spanish inquisition. But many were true for sure confirmed by De las Casas

[@tone6509]

This gonna make a lot of Italians in America mad. You always have to do your own research. Great video.

[@davidhollingsworth1723]

The city of Calvi in Corsica has a statue of Columbus claiming he was born there. At this time Corsica was a part of Genova. It was not until the 18th Century that the Corsicans were able to break away from the City State of Genova. There is also a town in Catalonia named Colom that claims Cristobal Colon as their native son. All this other stuff that I just saw is new to me. I might add that at this time Columbus was in danger of being accused of heresy by the Church because of his beliefs on the subject of getting to India by way of the Atlantic. He had the full backing of Queen Isabella because he promised her that this area would be fertile ground for new converts. The whole thing is interesting.

[@loreforone924]

MARXIST rewrite history.

[@tomchirillo1663]

Corsica did not "break away" but was sold by Genoa to France.

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. Costa-Amic was a reputable refugee from the Spanish dictatorship who lived many years in Mexico. I read his book and found it very convincing.

[@Luzitanium]

Colombo was a portuguese agent born in Cuba - Portugal, letters from the King refer him as a "special friend of Portugal", Colombo wouldnt be the first and last portuguese in the service of Spain, Magellan was another.

[@eileensullivan3676]

Absolutely! I just learned that last year. Some think that he was sent to Portugal to improve his navigation skills--his father was an aristocrat, sooo....I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

[@propertysolutions4773]

Greetings from Mumbai-INDIA The real story of Chris Columbus is that after 1492-the Jews of Spain had to become Catholics & leave their land and property & these Jews had heard that "RICH INDIA" was totally free of Antisemitism -hence the search for India which the Portuguese explorer VASCO DA GAMA discovered in 1498 by landing in Cochin(now Kochi) There has been COCCHINI JEWS in kochi since the last 3300 yrs & Kochi city in 2022 still has a suburb called JEW TOWN

[@rosemariepetersen4467]

WOW!!!! That was super interesting. History is just the most fascinating thing. If Christopher Colombia was truly an undercover agent then I recommend that all undercover agents take a lesson from him, ….we still don’t even know…..

[@everthcruz788]

And you think James Bond 007 is a good secret agent Check out Columbus 007 he did that stuff 500 years ago

[@davidmrodriguez8067]

"I pray to God to give you a lot of beautiful days and I hope God bless you to have a great day, I'm David by name from Overbrook Philadelphia and you where are you from?

[@MSPUKIMOLIELIE]

How can land be discovered by another, when others already lived there?

[@lxportugal9343]

if you discover your keys, weren't they already there?

[@shanicebrown1585]

Good question

[@zoebaggins90]

Discovered by the rest of the world.

[@cheesygoodness5415]

If you and your friend knows about a thing and you put pictures on the net, it will be discovered by the rest of the world.

[@illuminahde]

What a silly comment trying to virtual signal

[@manifestwithmells8178]

I love your video it's beautiful 💗💗💗🇩🇪

[@racheldoesacrylic4089]

Is it not great to live in a time when we can find out so much? and also find out by doing our own research what facts may be be not quite as they seem, when i think back to school circa 1970s i didn't learn anything compared to now. i think schooling is way more fun when your older and actually want to learn hahah / thanks for vid x

[@teeteringonthebrink.305]

I know what you mean. When you find something fascinating, you want to learn as much about it as you can. And it can be a subject that you had absolutely no interest in while at school. I believe we appreciate things more when we're older, untroubled by the inconsequential fads and fashions of our younger days.

[@___JB]

Lol..i have learned more in the last 16 months than i learned in my 31 years prior so i agree

[@RocCityHebrew585]

History is lies. It was done to whitewash everything and to steal the history, identity, culture, language of the black man (the true israelites.)

[@bankheadbamm1383]

So much bill 💩

[@diankreczmer6595]

Fascinating ! Thank you!

[@j.maybrick8596]

This video goes a long way to explain why some people feel they have never fit in well in American society. The truth is always more helpful than lies in the long run and I thank those responsible for producing and posting it.

[@benjaminwachold3736]

I was taught in school that Christoper Columbus was Portuguese and his voyages were in service of the King and Queen of Spain.

[@hippiedachshunds1632]

Where did you attend school?

[@michaelrobinson1945]

@@hippiedachshunds1632 We were taught the same thing in the '50's.

[@jeanlundi2141]

@@michaelrobinson1945 Where are you from?

[@eileensullivan3676]

Europeans think Portugues, Americans Italian. I think Catalán. . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

[@SilviaParraTruckingEU-NZ-AU]

I read a study ( book too) about Columbus being the famous Galician sailor and noble Pedro Álvarez de Sotomayor nicknamed Pedro Madruga. Colom being his grandmother's Maiden name. He sided with Portugal in the war for Galicia to leave Castilian hands and lost. He desappears suddenly with no notice of his death the year before Columbus appears in Portugal. Both have the same number of sons with same names. And the desciphering of the signature is much simpler than here. Also when it is said Columbus visited the Castilian queen ..the name that day in the registry of visitors is Pedro Sotomayor and not Columbus

[@RoaroftheTiger]

Perhaps we can persuade U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, to give a DNA sample?

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. He first approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca, at the Palace there. He sailed from Cataluyna--the Palos that is always cited was evidently too shallow for his ships at the time.

[@nunorican]

That actually makes more sense than other theories (being an experienced sailor and a nobleman), although there seems to be a document in the spanish archives also identifying him or himself as being "Portuguese". I also read somehere that is real first name was "Pedro", so there is a good chance to that claim.

[@hectorlopez4365]

Read a book on Puerto Rican history in which it is stated that Columbus sons were governors of PuertoRico. Colon(Columbus)is a very prevalent name in PuertoRico.His two sons married Indian women in PuertoRico. Héctor López

[@eileensullivan3676]

Sounds right. According to what I know, they would be descendents of a Jewish grandmother and an aristocratic grandfather related to King Fernando of Spain. . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

[@JWSitterley]

Revisionist? Think now, Spain just finished the "Reconquesta" in 1492, thirty nine years after the Fall of Constantinople in 1453. This is within living memory of the time. Everyone was in fear of the spread of Islam. Did you miss the Christian Crosses on Columbus's ships?

[@deforestdelpech7528]

What?

[@nazarenoorefice2104]

at least a clever person writing on this blog

[@abdirahmanidris290]

Um they probably always went with crosses. Thats their symbol if you like.

[@RW2996]

He sailed for Catholic Spain. Why wouldnt the cross be on the ships? His crew was spanish. Most likely catholic. And he was hiding his true identity. Was he suppose to protest ?

[@ecf9674]

Flying the flag today for all the Columbus and America haters out there

[@ecf9674]

@Its Business ...said the kind, tolerant, open-minded, non-judgmental liberal.

[@rogermills9128]

Yes, I love this documentary. I am proud of the gods chosen people! As a Christian it is comforting to know YAwhe still has a plan for all of us all! Love!

[@ragantate3995]

they know exactly who his sons are and his grand daughters so there’s no reason for this film to end the way it did. Dna testing is definitely a possibility. I’m not buying the circles of distraction.

[@Just_Call_Me_Tim]

Remember when they showed the endoscope footage? It teetered over the inside ledge for only a moment and was pulled back, the the rewind looked as if the camera was trying to autofocus on something too close to it. It’s inconclusive at best, at worse was just done for show. Seems like a lot of ‘nothing’ being accomplished here.

[@betsymuller4225]

@@Just_Call_Me_Tim ki

[@League-fix]

I just can’t stop laughing…

[@donakahorse]

welcome to the world of click bait documentaries. I click because I want to know, I leave before my view monetizes it because they say nothing new, and draw no real conclusions

[@absoliutenuds]

Yeah how would they make a controversial or unclear video if they gave us the facts

[@playrasputin3457]

1:33 this kind of grade A acting would be better left out of documentaries

[@Roseh77]

Yeah I switched off at that point

[@Leaf1480]

I wont lie im still laughing after watching this whole thing

[@khernandez7903]

Minus the DNA, this has the potential to be the never ending story.

[@jeffgraham9089]

“Tell us now!”

[@viderevero1338]

My favorite part 😂

[@steventan2550]

Fascinating! Although the final verdict is not out yet, I am convinced Christopher Columbus is a Portuguese born in Cuba, Portugal.

[@gregmaea4337]

Absolutely riveting history. TBC…..look forward to a conclusion. In saying that the evidence and research gathered and presented is absolutely compelling.

[@TheMrcassina]

To be fair you should also interviewed an Italian historian

[@saynotohookups]

That would be interesting.

[@giorgiodifrancesco4590]

@@saynotohookups No inteviews are necessaries. In Italy we know very well that his contemporaries who knew him personally described Columbus as Ligurian. See the case of Pietro Martire d'Anghiera, an Italian in the service of Spain and member of the "Consejo de las Indias", who wrote this immediately (may 1493), in his letter to the earl Giovanni Borromeo subsequently collected in the "Opus Epistolarum", published few years later, in 1511: ""Christophorus quidam Colonus vir Ligur"". The same thing said in his "Lettera" Michele da Cuneo, a ligurian friend of Columbus, native of Savona, who partecipated to the second voyage to Hispaniola. Do you really could think that a ligurian was not able to distinguish another ligurian from iberians? Columbus donated an island to Michele da Cuneo who named it "Saona". Then we can speak about the decisive contribution of another italian friend of Columbus, the bishop Geraldini, confessor of the queen Isabel. And you don't know that the Banco di San Giorgio of Genoa financed the first voyage of Columbus. Having said that, even though Columbus was born in Italy, he behaved as a faithful subject of the kings of Spain, therefore, he can be considered Spanish by choice.

[@josersleal]

@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 The pope in his bulas NEVER wrote his name as other than 'cristo val colon' No 'h', 'o' with trace on top as only the portuguese wrote. Never as the italians say his name was. Colon himself always signed his name the same as the pope, along with the initials of his real portuguese name. he spoke no italin, never wrote a single letter in italian, never was in italy. the picture used is done by an italian artist that never met him. He was a spy to divert the spanish from the new continent that was known y the portuguese 150 years before they claimed brasil. Hence he never led them to the continent and kept them at bay,

[@giorgiodifrancesco4590]

@@josersleal En ese momento, el italiano no era un idioma hablado, sino solo escrito por los poetas. En la Republica de Génova (actual region Liguria), el latín se usaba para documentos y cartas en el siglo XV y dudo que Colón (que era una persona que navegò desde cuando era muy joven y que incluso había practicado la piratería) hubiera estudiado latín. Por eso (y considerado que no fue un poeta), es bastante común que, viviendo al extranjero, utilizara idiomas adoptados, como el español. Lo mismo puede decirse de su nombre. Castellanizarlo sirvió para ser aceptado por los espanoles (en ese momento, extremadamente nacionalistas y racistas). El idioma ligur no es la lengua italiana: es un idioma neolatin occidental, galo-romance, como el piamontes, el lombardo, el emiliano, el occitano, el franco-povenzal, el oitano (o frances comun) y como los idiomas neolatinos ibericos. La lengua italiana pertenece al conjunto neolatin oriental, junto con el rumano y los neolatinos desaparecidos o casi desaparecidos del oeste europeo (dalmatico, arumano). kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKSWd5mqYpt9eas

[@keyos1955]

@@josersleal You are clueless

[@didiherzane]

How exactly can't they determine the exact DNA of Cristofer Colombo, but can tell people now that they are 2% Norwegian, 1.5 % Ethiopian, etc.

[@nunorican]

Apparently 500 year old DNA that has to be extracted from a handful of bones in 3 countries...

[@LondonSambaDancerBellydancer]

Great eye-opener Thanks for this research!

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

[@riccardoscarpa6417]

There are other fascinating alternative versions of his history, such as the notion that he was the illegitimate son of the Pope Innocent VIII (born Giovanni Battista Cybo). Columbus' mother (Susanna Fontanarossa) was definitely from Genova (Val Bisagno o Val Trebbia) and she was gifted a number of properties (ownership of which is documented by notary scripts preserved in Italian archives) from the Cybo family around the time of birth of Christopher. His father, Domenico Colombus (wool and wine merchant) was also from the region around Genoa, and inspired Christopher to name the island Santo Domingo after him. Unlike his brothers, and according to his son Hernando, Christopher was educated in an exclusive high-quality school at Pavia before starting his career as a seafarer very early. This could only have been possible at the time if he had been funded by someone outside his relatively poor and uneducated family, such as one of the rich and influential Cybo family. The Vatican had already known of the existence of America, and Chrisophorus would have been groomed to be the "official" discoverer of the new Christian land for the Vatican.

[@adrianhrusca4067]

Great info!

[@robsellars9338]

Superb info and more interesting than the program.

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory. Evidently he was never known to speak Italian or write in Italian, but seemed to have knowledge of Hebrew and Cataluyan. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

[@TimeTraveller010]

He was Italian, I have read two academic texts, both claim explicitly he was Italian. Domingo, Domenico is his brother's name. Eponymously Santo Domingo is named after his brother.

[@sgonzo5572]

Makes no Sense. He named the island Santo Domingo after his father named Domenico? Then why did he name the Island Cuba for? He named the city Santo Domingo after Saint Dominic of the Holy Dominican Order. A catholic Priest, which is why the Country Is called DOMINICAN republic. It inherited the colors from when Haiti's original Flag from when it occupied the dominican republic. But Dominican Republic added a Catholic Cristian Cross instead. Then the square colors got rotated. Also at the time of colombus the Island is called La Hispanola. After Spain, Hispania - Hispanola - Espanola - Espana - Hispano - Hispanic The Cross represents the Catholic order of Dominican.

[@mindhistorydocumentary]

The documentary is very well-balanced, presenting multiple viewpoints on controversial topics in ancient history without bias

[@rocioaguilera3555]

Cristóbal Colón (Christopher Columbus) was a brave and informed seaman. Where he was born is not as important as his achievements. Portugal didn't support him, Spain did through queen Isabel la Católica, wife of king Fernando de Aragón. Their marriage united the reigns of Castilla and Aragón, giving origin to the country of Spain.

[@xs3282]

Oh,...so you knew the man?,...it never amazes me how stupid people are!, he was a monster!

[@realramone3455]

Ahahahahahahaha

[@realramone3455]

@Jesus Bermudez No, i laugh, because as he says, Columbus was a brave and informed seaman, and then he procceds saying that where he came from is not important... Of course it is! He was informed because he was portuguese, as such he had the knowledge to navigate, that no one in the world had, besides the portuguese, Dah. Also the brave part... By the way, what have you acomplished?

[@jeanlundi2141]

Who supported him is not as important as his achievements then. Lol You should have stopped there.

[@eileensullivan3676]

Supposedly, what she wasn't supposed to know is, even tho his father was a relative of her husbands, he was a corsair who along with a 14-yr. old Chris sailed against her ships. Hence the identity cover-up. . I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb (lots in Mallorca), not a Colombo (lots in Genoa). See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English. His mother was a Jew, his father a relative of King Fernando. Supposedly he approached the Catholic Monarchs in Palma de Mallorca (where they had a Palace). He sailed from Catalunya, not the Palos port traditionally named--too shallow at the time for his ships. His use of Spanish and his hand writing suggested Mallorcan origin . I have heard that he was sent to study navigation in Portugal and in Italy.

[@prairiepatriot2162]

Fascinating story, I am interested in seeing if they can ever get a DNA match to Portuguese royals. Trouble is that those in posession of the evidence have an interest in keeping the story as is, and as such, they aren't likely to grant access to it.

[@henrypacquette1489]

If the truth be told it will shock you

[@philobetto5106]

the Norsemen arrived in North America 500 years before Columbus, and before and ''Native Americans'' so looks like they get land and a casino

[@philobetto5106]

ah' the good ole days before the Smithsonian

[@League-fix]

Guilt and shame is the only thing that keeps the truth tightly locked as possible.

[@megw7312]

@@philobetto5106 Britons landed in America 900 years before Columbus

[@janettedavis6627]

I'm positive the Vatican would have records on the Great Explorer Christopher Columbus.

[@reneesmithdecozen3986]

Here in Mallorca Spain, we have papers of his birth. His father was off nobility but his mother was a dimple phesent woman. He was sent to Portugal to study. He also studied in Italy. Like always, Italy wanted the fame of Colombus birth etc. His name in Spanish is Cristobal Colon. The surname Colon is very common in Mallorca. And in Spain there is family or desendents of Cristobal Colon...Christopher Columbus

[@adelking66]

Columbus real name is : Pedro Ataide from Arabic( Al- ta-id), he al so change his name to Salvador Fernandez Zarco ( his wife surnemme Zarco from Arabic (Zarci) bleu eyes, Columbus born and grew up in a small village in potugal name Cuba from a convert moorish family

[@TinyPendle]

I LOVE dimple pheasants!

[@siomi2701]

he's nothing to brag about give him to the italians. he not even a holiday here anymore 😊

[@malignustotalis331]

@@TinyPendle Do all peasants in Spain or Portugal have dimples❓

[@fragolegirl2002]

@@TinyPendle he meant simple peasant

[@maegary439]

What difference do any of this make at the end of the day he didn't discover anything other then another land mass with people already living there.

[@beatrixbrennan1545]

He discovered it for the Europeans, which then made it the new world. That is why it is important. You know, the most rich and powerful country in the world.... that was founded by Europeans whos way was paved by Columbus's discovery???

[@brokentricorder4621]

In each region I went to elementary school in, their books said he arrived their first. They all had different stories.

[@ralfsxm851]

They all made it up

[@eileensullivan3676]

Seems everybody wants a piece of the pie. I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in eng.

[@arri1254]

DON T WATCH THIS, the question just drags on and on and on. at the end nothing conclusive, just the same questions repeating again and again. I like TIMELINE and some of their programs are to say the least: Insightfull, well documented. Exquisite! but this one, bad...Read most coments and you will find they are in the same line.

[@meanmistermustard2485]

was about to watch this... THANKS for saving me an hour of my life. will watch another docu instead of this.

[@ryanvelez6762]

Lmaoo thank you

[@lisamckennon3025]

Thanx for saving me an hour!!

[@carldacosta3184]

You don't like the well documented conclusions that is all. NOT GENOVESE!!

[@historyonthego]

Why would you say that 🤔This program gave so much. it's quite obvious that he was not Italian. He didn't even speak the language and he named Cuba after a Portuguese Town, he also named the surrounding Island from the names of surrounding town in Portugal. I thought it strange as a little kid that a on know person could get backing from a King and Queen, that's strange. Also he got backing from Jewish people for the voyages. Why also didn't he even reveal his true identity to his children. This was very good program . There is going to be doubt because people expect to get 100% proof. But the proof he is Portuguese is much more valid. There is no proof he is Italian other than we were told so in school. That is crazy how we just end up believing without a thread of evidence.

[@this482]

This is why I am reading "Kingdom Road : Volume 1" by Michael Walker

[@yarrowwitch]

Is it good? Looking for decent reads at the moment to spend an Amazon card on.

[@budsyremo]

What is it about?

[@ramonawilliams9305]

Very intriguing 🤨

[@georgecuyler7563]

According our Turtle Islanders stories we found these strange boats and strange people adrift on the seas, they were extremely sick with scurvy and had to be nursed back to health.

[@dandylionriver]

Oh Pleas. There are DNA tests RIGHT NOW that’ll show his nationality.

[@someonethatwatchesyoutube2953]

“HE IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!” “AND WE LET HIM OFF THE HOOK!”

[@Delisingz]

Did I just waste an hour of my life and am right back where I started?

[@GuitarraLisboa1977]

Este documentário e por consequência este vídeo merece um grande elogio das mais variadas vertentes. Eu conheço esta versão da investigação histórica há pelo menos uns 20 anos, quando eu li um pequeno texto da autoria do Professor Doutor e Médico Luciano Melo (se não me falha a memória). E de facto a única duvida que se apontava nesta teoria extremamente plausível, a qual ainda hoje existe era seguinte: - Porque razão e porque argumento, naquele tempo Salvador Fernandes Zarco se fez passar por Cristovão Cólon? E no meu entendimento a resposta para tal pergunta fundamental é tão simples: - Não é certamente apenas o motivo que o Reino de Portugal estar interessado no Oriente e não nas Índias pelo Ocidente. Portugal sabia sim da existência de uma terra a Ocidente e também sabia que não era a India ( a de Vasco da Gama), sabia sim que era uma uma terra com outras gentes. Por outro lado, Vasco da Gama, que a segunda fez se impus com canhões sobre a India, se tornou no primeiro Vice Rei português, neste caso do lado Oriente. E para tentar responder à pergunta fundamental da identidade de Cristovão Colón vs Salvador Fernandes Zarco, Porquê se fazia passar por outra pessoa? Era espião? porque razão foi ele falar com a coroa de Espanha e não a Portugal? >>>> Ora vejamos, se ele era filho bastardo, do Rei D. Fernando (Fernande(s) pois é filho de Fernando) juntamente com uma filha do capitão donatário Zarco da ilha da Madeira, nascido que foi escondido em Cuba do Alentejo, como todos os bastardos eram à revelia e se ele ao descobrir das Índias (Américas) se tornasse Vice Rei também ?>>> Então isso significava claramente que mesmo sendo bastardo, ele tinha direito a aceder ao trono de Portugal? Ele tinha direito a ser REI por descender diretamente do sangue do Rei D. Fernando e uma vez obtendo popularidade pelos seus feitos na corte portuguesa. A resposta é exatamente esta: - Ele fugiu de Portugal pois provavelmente a sua vida seria em risco, porque era um sério candidato uma vez descoberta a América a ser considerado Rei de Portugal e/ou disputar o trono e obviamente o Rei em vigência sabia certamente da sua linhagem e certamente que iria por termo à sua vida para não ficar sem o trono. Eu penso que não há duvida para o motivo pelo qual o mapa de Piri Reis desapareceu entre os demais mapas que se encontravam no acervo da altura. Cristovão Cólon seria a sua nova identidade dentro da Europa, onde ele foi tentar a sua sorte de vida numa outra corte, uma vez que a sua linhagem (uma vez conhecida em Portugal) determinaria a sua bastardia e falta de recetividade do Rei por poder eventualmente ser considerado um potencial usurpador ao poder. E a promessa que recebeu da Coroa de Espanha foi que se tornaria Vice Rei de Espanha desta feita das Ìndias (ou Americas) não tendo porém se verificado. Contudo, ainda numa ultima tentativa e após ter descoberto Cuba pela primeira vez e de regresso à Europa, ele ainda parou num lugar que se chama Anjos que fica a Norte da Ilha de Santa Maria, numa pequena enseada e baia muito erma, a qual não tinha artilharia que apontasse às caravelas espanholas ao se aproximar junto á costa ou simplesmente fugir ao conhecimento de tocar em costa portuguesa, para que deste modo deixasse mensagem aos seus familiares de Gonçalo Velho Cabral, que era capitão donatário dos Açores, para que ao aportar em breve e em Lisboa esta mensagem chegasse à Rainha de Portugal pois Cristovão Cólon ou Salvador Fernandes Zarco queria falar com a mesma urgentemente para lhe transmitir uma mensagem importante. E essa reunião com a rainha aconteceu , obviamente como a sua ultima tentativa de saber se Salvador Fernandes Zarco devia entregar a sua descoberta que ainda não estava totalmente terminada aos reis portugueses , ou se Cristovão Colón devesse caminhar até Castela a levar novas ruma esquecer para sempre da sua verdadeira identidade portuguesa ou se devia simplesmente aceitar uma nova realidade do seu Eu ao se chamar e ser conhecido durante a sua vida e para as próximas gerações por Cristofhõn (critovão) Cólon. Penso que esta é a resposta para a duvida que assombra a presente teoria.

[@GlobetrotterBR]

Você está certo. Mesmo antes da chegada de Cabral no Brasil já havia portugueses vivendo aqui, particularmente os judeus João Ramalho e Cosme Fernandes, mais conhecido como "Bacharel de Cananeia" (entre outros). Cananeia foi o nome dado a esta região no sul do estado de São Paulo e que fica exatamente no último ponto ao sul da linha do tratado de Tordesilhas e onde estes "cristãos novos", na verdade judeus, foram deixados. É bom lembrar que o primeiro povo a se beneficiar do que chamamos hoje de 'globalização' foram os judeus. Por causa da diáspora, os judeus em várias partes do mundo se comunicavam com frequência. Não com a velocidade atual, mas com frequência ininterrupta. Sugiro que pesquise as descobertas da historiadora Anita Novinsky, que foi a maior autoridade em Inquisição no Brasil e Portugal e que passou décadas estudando pessoalmente os arquivos da Torre do Tombo. Ela fez descobertas surpreendentes.

[@ciscodealmeida8541]

nunca vais encontrar a verdade escrita por outros, mas se tiveres a curiosidade seria,entao fala com ele,faz amizade com ele o eterno nome dele e Conde St Germain.

[@jimpalmer1969]

Very interesting points. I would like to hear the Italian and Spanish side of this story if a convincing one really exists. Things that happened six centuries ago will always end in controversy, but I'm inclined to believe in the CC Portuguese ancestry. I really hope I live long enough for full DNA analysis of this story. Thanks for the great write up and your great European heritage.

[@lino222]

@@jimpalmer1969 well, the Italian/Spanish side is the "official" version born out of a book written by some guy...a story, not history! Donnie Brasco was a gangster, but Joe Pistone was an undercover fbi agent, yet they were the same... to my understandig, the DNA test results will be released on October 12th, Columbus day.

[@Just_Call_Me_Tim]

Evaristo’s sense of style, as seen by his choice in suit coat shown at the beginning, is on point! I’ll edit later if I have any other comments, but long coats should make a comeback!

[@frankieamsden7918]

I thought he was wearing an old fashioned morning suit.

[@LimaGolf284th]

Very stimulating, thank you.

[@jessickalush3305]

I like being stimulated

[@iamwisdomfaye1192]

No one ever talks about the fact that Christopher Columbus was a conquistador so was Ponce De Leon and Hernon Cortes. Christopher Columbus sought the aid of Queen Isabella of Spain who was King James cousin to go to India for the prize commodity of tea and spices. The conquistadors were the knights, and soldiers of the Spanish and Portuguese empire. He didn’t go there blindly like His-Story teaches. And he never landed on what was known at the time the shores of the three Americas: South America, North America and Mexico. They were fully aware of exactly what they were going after. Conquistadors are bandit murdering thieves plain and simple. And we all need to stop sugar coasting the truth to make what was done not a crime against humanity. Look up The British Co. Under the commission of Manifest Destiny the Bible was used especially in Africa calling them infidels to justify the crime of kidnapping and forced servitude. This is a fact and the world needs to confront the truth and stop telling lies to appease another group of people.

[@iamwisdomfaye1192]

Lol! I did for get to mention sugar cane

[@opposvr]

Have you read the book called: The Devastation of the Indies: A Brief Account by Bartolomeo de las Casas.... ? These Conquistadores slayed babies like it was a joke, and at one point during a time of famine they set up a meat shop "carnicería" (the meat they sold was native indigenous humans cut into pieces)

[@silveriorebelo8045]

your sense of history is ridiculous - mistaking the adventure of discoveries, the merchants dream of India, the conquistadores and the colonizing movement that created the countries of America - you should give time to study...

[@iamwisdomfaye1192]

@@silveriorebelo8045! This was before Europe even decided to go to America which, had absolutely nothing to do with Christopher Columbus

[@iamwisdomfaye1192]

@@opposvr! I know they were pure evil wicked monsters. And no I haven’t read that book. I am very interested in reading this book

[@ولدجبلصاغرو]

There is a historical belief in Morocco, which few native people from Morocco sailed with Columbus, that he is of a Portuguese origins.

[@frankieamsden7918]

I have read this as well.

[@johnleckieWATP]

Somebody says something = Tick for confirmation, the new way historians come to "truth"?

[@corvusglaivetheblackorder4465]

This is the first I'm hearing of all this. Amazing stuff. I knew he was Jewish and not Genoese but the Portuguese part I didn't know. It all makes so much more sense though.

[@realramone3455]

@L.aE.cH. Empire Take your medecine

[@eileensullivan3676]

I like the Mallorcan theory: he was a Colomb, not a Colombo. See Bartolomeu Costa-Amic (1989), Charles J. Merrill (2008 ), Jordi Bilbeny (2019). First two available in English.

[@davegadge1]

The idea that Columbus discovered America is like saying Elon Musk invented the car!

[@sumanchamaria9184]

My friend what you’re saying got debunked years ago. No one in 2022 thinks of Columbus as the founder of The New World.

[@davegadge1]

@@sumanchamaria9184 so you agree with me great, but of course people still believe he did, ask any American who discovered America, it’s still taught in school. Glad that you know but so many do not!

[@williambenner5550]

Does it even matter what country he originated from, for he didn't discover America anyway.

[@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493]

@Kosch KX So your grownup logic says that if I were to "discover" your house, you will be infantile for diagreeing? 😂

[@deforestdelpech7528]

@@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493 if his house was unknown to the collective body of recorded history, then yes. Sure the Americas had their own histories, but certainly it was the case that the old world discovered the new world (and their histories), and not the other way around.

[@anthonylafayette4385]

He discovered The New World for the Old World and the world changed. All who came before Columbus changed absolutely nothing.

[@narrativeshorts]

There is a test that can help prove it either way, whether Columbus was from Genoa or Cuba. Chemical Strontium isotopes composition of his teeth should show the area he where he grew up in. The mineralization of teeth are lay down for a person before birth and during childhood. You just need to confirm that the teeth are truly Columbus'. Maybe impossible task.

[@billroberts9182]

I was told only 200 grams or so of bones were found in the Seville coffin. The DNA matched with his son's DNA buried in the same cathedral in Seville (Hernando Colon). I don't know if there were any teeth to test. Supposedly bones are also located in Santo Domingo and in Cuba- so I think the poor guy got pieced out...

[@Survivethejive]

@@billroberts9182 DNA would show if he was Italian easily

[@billroberts9182]

@R Bray According to Samuel Morison, he was without doubt Genoese. He was tall, red haired with freckles. Hardly a typical Portugeuse in the 16th Century. Plus contemporary written documents refer to him as Genoese, and Christofer generated documents endowing Genoese business locations near the end of his life. Apparently he had no formal schooling as a young man (which was typical of the Genoese at that time) and that most mariners in Portugal and Spain spoke spanish. DNA would confirm it if that is possible.

[@zoebaggins90]

@@billroberts9182 sounds like a Jewish spy to me.

[@cejannuzi]

@@Survivethejive You think? It would depend on the mix of peoples in Genoa, a port city and melting pot, at the time (if that was where he was born).