Timing The Mazda/Ford 2.0/2.3/2.5 Engines. Part 2 - What Can Go Wrong

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Baxrok2

Baxrok2

7 жыл бұрын

Here, I run through the procedure quickly in order to show you what to look out for. I show you what happened to me when my engine was timed improperly and how I fixed it.
I believe that this is the biggest problem that you can run into when setting the timing. It's pretty sneaky and if you don't go back and carefully verify the timing before you lock everything down the timing can be off!
In parts 3 and 4 I go into more detail about parts, tools, and the procedure.

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@johnstrombowly824
@johnstrombowly824 10 ай бұрын
Absolute life saver. 2.3 to 2.5 swap left me scratching my head at how disgusting the car was running, fixed the problem in 30mins after watching this. started right up strait after, purrs like a kitten and sprints like and athlete!
@jso726
@jso726 Жыл бұрын
This is pure GOLD...I did a 2.0 to 2.5 swap, and found your videos...Now I know that I did not time it properly. I'm very confident this will solve my issues.
@theflyingjawa
@theflyingjawa 3 ай бұрын
6 years on, and your video has helped me immensely, thanks!
@MrHevelifter
@MrHevelifter 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video series, thanks for making these, it's really giving me insight for my swap. Cheers!
@mozee2001
@mozee2001 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Baxrok ,I cant thank you enough .Using your video I was able to fix my timing after being messed up by two previous Mechanics.God bless you .
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
Good job! That's why I made these videos, so people could fix their cars properly.
@getthegearnow-store2451
@getthegearnow-store2451 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for being very thorough. One thing I do want to bring up, is this: We don't always remove the engine from the car. So turning the crank to bring back to top dead center would probably have to be done by turning the flywheel. Remove the starter and access it from there. With a large prytool it can be done and may take a few tries, it will get done. Appreciate you taking the time. Carlos
@tommythompson9741
@tommythompson9741 6 жыл бұрын
you are the best teacher with details we all need, thanks
@chrisdaly7385
@chrisdaly7385 4 жыл бұрын
The series of videos you've made for timing this engine is by FAR the best resource I've found, thank you very much for putting these out. One helpful tip for those who have not pulled the engine entirely and do not have the ability to rotate the crankshaft from the back of the engine: You can cut a 1/4" thick piece of rubber sheet, then wrap it around the front of the crankshaft and secure it with a worm drive style hose clamp to make a very secure strap wrench, that assembly can then be rotated pretty easily by hand or with some channel locks without the risk of damage to the shaft.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@vetoketok6472
@vetoketok6472 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, it helped me to understand the problem I have with my cx7 that my mechanic has been battling with out results
@YouTubehndl
@YouTubehndl 2 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for this 4 part series. My 2016 Ford Fusion with the 2.5 jumped time and died at a stop sign. Thanks to this video series I completely understood what I was doing when I replaced the components using the All Data DIY manual. As it turns out, it jumped time because it was missing a friction washer between the crankshaft and the sprocket. With the M6 bolt in the pulley hole the cams lined up but the engine was still another 10-15 degrees from hitting the TDC peg. I’m surprised that the engine didn’t blow up. One tip I have is to definitely use the flats on the camshaft that look like a bolt to keep it from rotating while torquing the gears down.
@urielarroyo510
@urielarroyo510 2 жыл бұрын
You’re video was very informative thank you. I found that you can use the harmonic balance bolt to set the timing as long as you remove it using an impact driver. I tested it three times and my timing remained. Saves you from having to drop the starter.
@nr27_IP_M3.
@nr27_IP_M3. 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best youtube videos I've ever seen. You are a born educator. Thank you very much for doing this
@charleshawkins9162
@charleshawkins9162 3 жыл бұрын
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@charleshawkins9162 3 жыл бұрын
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@azavalos1
@azavalos1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to do some work on my nc 2.0 so I'm trying to get tips & educate myself, you video was very clear & very useful. Many thanks Aaron
@b_gumm
@b_gumm 2 жыл бұрын
You are saint. Thank you so much for sharing with us. Thank you for filming. It was a pleasure watching. You really helped me. Thank you so much
@mikejr550
@mikejr550 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for sharing. This confirms what I suspected went wrong on a vehicle from another shop.
@fomoco1454
@fomoco1454 3 жыл бұрын
Mazda, and Honda both had keyless cranks on their 4 cylinder engines. But, Honda has an additional shaft called a "balancer shaft" that the timing pin contacts. The balancer shaft was used to minimize vibration at higher engine rpm's. Very easy, and instructional video sir!
@alfredomorfin828
@alfredomorfin828 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video had to do an oil pan and front main seal on a 07 Miata 2.0 and pulled off the harmonic balancer without knowing it was a keyless balancer.
@chaoticfox6271
@chaoticfox6271 3 жыл бұрын
This was beautifully and expertly explained, you’re no diyer lol you’re a pro
@EXOVCDS
@EXOVCDS 7 жыл бұрын
Great video... well explained with what could go wrong!
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. If it hadn't seen it myself, it almost didn't seem worth mentioning. If for no other reason, it at least shows the entire timing process which was something that I have yet to see on YT.
@JorgeGomez-pl8bl
@JorgeGomez-pl8bl 5 жыл бұрын
muchas gracias por compartir su experiencia con nosotros los que comemos en trabajo de la mecánica gracias muy buen video
@allenespy2556
@allenespy2556 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for posting and sharing
@kyhomegarage3430
@kyhomegarage3430 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and professional. Thank you
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@curtis890
@curtis890 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the tips and the concise explanation. I will be doing this job now. After timing it, I will remove the crank bolt with an impact, rather than by hand, and I believe this will allow me to remove the bolt without moving the crank out of place. Will report back on if that works. Cheers
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that an impact is better than by hand.
@johncook3108
@johncook3108 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks! Thought I did the alignment perfectly after a valve job/timing chain replacement but it was running rough with P0015, P0016 camshaft/crankshaft misalignment engine codes. This video saved the day. A couple of notes that might help some folks: 1) The pulley on my 2006 Mazda 2.0 LF lined up on the fifth tooth not the ninth when I installed the M6 bolt. 2) I got a TDC alignment bolt online that is thinner than yours and can be installed without removing the driveaxle.
@MrXanitos
@MrXanitos 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy from and what model is it?
@johncook3108
@johncook3108 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrXanitos Amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YVLA0DG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@tylermartin7707
@tylermartin7707 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! Wish I found it before I changed a bunch of parts! My mechanic swore he had it timed.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
I get it. That's what a mechanic told me too!
@suenoemichaidez8124
@suenoemichaidez8124 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I was very helpful for me!
@mechanicandskills7215
@mechanicandskills7215 6 жыл бұрын
I hate too say it but i hope you have more car problems so you make more videos
@gerardorosales3062
@gerardorosales3062 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, it helped me a lot, thanks!
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 жыл бұрын
Hanging out at the live stream last night was fun. I hope we can find a way to get together for a meet up (if Eric the car guy doesn't do it). You had some great visuals on this one which will make it easy to understand for anyone who is going to tackle this. Nice job.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave! Yeah, that was fun. Looking forward to whatever meetup comes around. Is it true that Eric O. already had one of his own?
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 жыл бұрын
Baxrok2 I'll send you an email.
@caddi_headquarters9496
@caddi_headquarters9496 2 жыл бұрын
Very smart man. Good video
@dariuszpanek7538
@dariuszpanek7538 2 жыл бұрын
grate job, You saved me a lot of time!
@russellhrycko5715
@russellhrycko5715 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m about to do this project.
@street_fighter_mx5
@street_fighter_mx5 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@oscarpalacios7198
@oscarpalacios7198 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEOS THANK YOU SO MUCH
@MrJoshap
@MrJoshap Жыл бұрын
Mate. Terrific tutorial
@laceyforrest5799
@laceyforrest5799 Жыл бұрын
you can use the impact gun to back off the crank pulley bolt and i bet the crank wont move. as you remove that bolt you can just keep an eye on your little tdc home made stick thing in the spark plug hole. By the way, that tdc stick is a great idea. Had you watched your tdc stick as you removed the crank pulley bolt you would have seen the crankshaft had moved because the stick would have went down a wee bit.
@frankmiller668
@frankmiller668 3 жыл бұрын
super helpful, thanks
@hustoncard3122
@hustoncard3122 3 жыл бұрын
Good job on the timing
@Bricklinsv1970
@Bricklinsv1970 2 жыл бұрын
You are the Man!
@936edwinable
@936edwinable 6 жыл бұрын
Good information thank you very much
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын
Edwin Vasques You are welcome!
@lukeo85
@lukeo85 Жыл бұрын
Thanks this video saved my butt.
@edgarporcayo5705
@edgarporcayo5705 4 жыл бұрын
very good...love it...!!
@brianphillips2808
@brianphillips2808 2 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful series. Thanks for putting it together. Would you happen to have the measurements for the thin portion of the camshaft positioning tool? I am trying to fabricate one but I can't find the dimensions anywhere. Thanks.
@ccyy8747
@ccyy8747 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your effort .I came from Taiwan .
@tannguyen95
@tannguyen95 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir and you look like Robert De Niro.
@carlstenautorepair6397
@carlstenautorepair6397 2 жыл бұрын
With spark plugs out, and engine out, you can turn crank with the flex plate by hand easily. Just leave the bolt out until ready to torque balancer
@rostrander73
@rostrander73 6 жыл бұрын
Baxrok2. Very nice vids thanks
@jkjwf
@jkjwf 2 жыл бұрын
This video is gold. I have a 2010 Mazda CX-9 and I am trying to figure out how I can verify that the engine is timed before I remove the chain
@vinceking719
@vinceking719 Жыл бұрын
If it was running before you removed it
@sandmanriffey
@sandmanriffey 3 жыл бұрын
Good info
@themechanic764
@themechanic764 6 жыл бұрын
Did you time the cams first or the crankshaft?
@travismckinzie7920
@travismckinzie7920 Жыл бұрын
I would have never thought of that taking the crank boat out after you timed it it would take it out of time I have a 2012 Ford focus
@oklahomacrabber
@oklahomacrabber 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks
@anandcalicharan4139
@anandcalicharan4139 Жыл бұрын
After i line up the crankshaft on the Peg and remove the bolt, i put on the timing cover and then when i put on the crankshaft pully i set the mark in the 3pm position and slightly tighten the crankshaft bolt then turn the crankshaft with a little force which moves the crankshaft and your hear it hit the peg if it had moved and continue turn the crankshaft gear which should have a little resistance until it lines up with the mark on the cover :)
@vdwijgertrobbin
@vdwijgertrobbin 7 жыл бұрын
nice video
@thadiusawala863
@thadiusawala863 Жыл бұрын
Hi ur videos have been so educative keep on sir.am from cameroon,pls any video on how to do tuning on ford escape hybrid 2.3 engine without removing from the car?
@strajkovski8767
@strajkovski8767 4 жыл бұрын
if the vehicle is manual you can utilize the drive train to rotate the crank back up against the peg after you remove the bolt, also you can load up the drive train to loosen the crankshaft bolt by selecting a gear and and locking 1 axle in a stationary position and rotating the other hub/axle, if the trans-axle/gearbox utilizes an LSD differential and the breakaway is not to light then you wont need to lock one of the axles, the torque is applied opposite so 5th gear will have the most torque but 4th gear should suffice.
@noekumagay7114
@noekumagay7114 Жыл бұрын
If the transmission is manual do you agree to avoid the shaft going back to engage the transmition on first or any speed?
@thadiusawala863
@thadiusawala863 Жыл бұрын
Hi sir I was so happy watching ur video so interesting, I got a ford escape engine that needs a valve timing but the engine is in the car can u help me with a video on how to do the timing without removing the engine from the car?thanks
@TracyLee6661
@TracyLee6661 5 жыл бұрын
Супер 👏. Спасибо 🙏
@oganLAnderson
@oganLAnderson Жыл бұрын
You are awesome
@dirtrider5001
@dirtrider5001 Жыл бұрын
i knew right when u popped off that crank and said, well its timed lol, i use a vicegrip and towel so i dont mar the crank to move the crank back just to make sure its hitting the peg before continuing, cuz again with the vicegrip u dont need to remove a bolt which invariable ends up moving the crank off the pin
@alexmessina3383
@alexmessina3383 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting and excellent quality video with meticulous detail. Thanks. One question however: if you are retiming engine in car without access to rear of crank, how would you verify timing after removing crank bolt??
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
You remove the starter and turn the flywheel through the opening.
@alexmessina3383
@alexmessina3383 5 жыл бұрын
@@baxrok2. Thanks I do recall there's no inspection port for simpler access ... The way to describe how you used to feel about timing the engine is the way I used to feel about electronic systems. Once you work it out it's not so shrouded in mystery and these days my tools or choice are often a picoscope and and scanner ... thanks for your great videos!
@evloevyousuf3329
@evloevyousuf3329 5 жыл бұрын
thanks alot
@davidhendrickse2256
@davidhendrickse2256 3 жыл бұрын
You are such a HUGE BLESSING sir! Exceptional vid and appreciate your step by step guide. Question. I have a Mazda 5 Sport 2007 and the timing chain came of the sitting in my oil pan. Is my engine damaged? Have I bent any valves? I am a DIYer and am getting ready to install new timing chain. Pls advise as to whether or not I should. I have been told to get rid of the car altogther.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
To determine if any damage has occurred, you'll have to do a cylinder leak down test. That will tell you if any valves were bent after the chain came off.
@davidhendrickse2256
@davidhendrickse2256 3 жыл бұрын
@@baxrok2. Thanks for such a swift response. Do you have a vid on how to do a cylinder leak down test??
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhendrickse2256 No, I don't have a video on performing a cylinder leak down test. However, they are very easy to find on KZbin. You'll need a cylinder leak down tester and an air compressor to perform the test. Alternatively, you could take the car to a shop and have them do the test for you. It's easy enough that any competent shop could do it in an hour. Having said all this, even if the cylinder leak down test shows that no valves are damaged, it's still possible that something else could be wrong as a result of the chain coming off. Just be aware of that.
@davidhendrickse2256
@davidhendrickse2256 3 жыл бұрын
@@baxrok2. thanks so much. appreciate your advice.
@dirtrider5001
@dirtrider5001 Жыл бұрын
ALso dont forget to take out the timing peg before u put everything back together and try and start it or can break your block!
@tegimr
@tegimr Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. So true!
@jazbuh1794
@jazbuh1794 4 жыл бұрын
Its not just the crank bolt that did it, it would be better if keyed; when you go to back off the bolt you also reverse the tension in the Chain and compress the tensioner just enough that the crank walks back and then when you install the pulley its off by that amount.
@HoUsEoFcAtS78
@HoUsEoFcAtS78 6 жыл бұрын
Wondering where you're from. I'm seriously considering doing this to my 3. And I may need some help along the way. This series has really got me interested in the swap.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын
Go for it, it's not hard. Watch the videos and for sure join the guys over at Mazda3Forums. Also there appears to be a Facebook page devoted to these swaps and apparently the guys are super helpful. Watch my So How Much Did It Cost video for the Facebook page name. Some guy posted the link just the other day.
@clarkd56
@clarkd56 4 жыл бұрын
You can use the Engine TDC pin with the engine in chassis you slide the boot off the axle end opposite the wheel end I just warmed it up with an old hair drier I keep in the shop same when I reinstalled it . You slide the boot off and you have plenty of access to install and remove the TDC timing pin it can be done in a matter of minutes.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 4 жыл бұрын
Great info sir. Thanks!
@shadetreemech290
@shadetreemech290 Жыл бұрын
I'm Planning to do this on my Ford Ranger 2.3L engine. But, I hadn't intended to take it out of the vehicle. Can I rotate it from the back with the engine still in the vehicle?
@idoxlr8er
@idoxlr8er 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, thanks for this. I have a 2.3 L3 non turbo that has an Intermittent rattle on cold start up. I’ve checked the VVT sprocket and it seems ok. No slack in the top of the chain or damage to the top of the valve cover. Sprocket locks as it should when cams and crank are rotated per Mazda’s bulletins. I’m thinking I have a weak or failing chain tensioner? Engine is completely quiet and runs great otherwise. Any enlightenment?
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, that could be several things. It could still be the VVT sprocket gradually going bad, piston slap, rod knock, intake manifold flaps rattling, or a few other things. The first gen 3's are notorious for the VVT rattle and rod knock. Try to determine if the noise is from the top or bottom of the engine for starters and go from there. If the engine is high mileage or hasn't had routine oil changes the tensioner could be an issue but I think you'd see it to some degree having a slack chain. Sorry I'm not much help but there are too many variables to guess accurately.
@idoxlr8er
@idoxlr8er 4 жыл бұрын
@@baxrok2. Much appreciated. Engine has 80k miles and is spotless internally with regular oil changes. I’m still thinking VVT as well.
@edwardamodei4338
@edwardamodei4338 2 жыл бұрын
Hey is the 303-507 the correct timing pin for 2006 2.3l DOHC Duratech? Because I’ve bought a few which are way off on their dimensions. Done some research and I’m seeing it’s a 38.55 mm pin (peg)… Haynes book says 63.4 mm I think they are way off. Let me me know what you think. Thanks
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 2 жыл бұрын
That looks like the right one. Says it's for the 2.3.
@alistercrowley1923
@alistercrowley1923 3 жыл бұрын
What about the balancer shaft assembly ? How do you time the balancer shaft assembly to the crankshaft in the vehicle? Can miss timing the assembly result in catastrophic failure? We put rods and mains in a 05 escape hybrid with no thoughts to marking the balencer and the crank!
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I never removed the crank or balancer for my swap. Go to Mazda3Forums.com for some help.
@allenhumphreys2586
@allenhumphreys2586 6 жыл бұрын
Boy, I'm glad I choose the v6 on my Ford Escape, the lack of keyway or alignment pins on all the timing sprockets on the I4 is total BS. One observation, the crankshaft should remain against the TDC pin the whole procedure of timming, there should be a flywheel lock tool installed to prevent any crankshaft movement IMO.
@tegimr
@tegimr Жыл бұрын
A significant number of Ford v6 4.0 are keyless.
@Mfast0161
@Mfast0161 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mate was wondering if you could help me out again, basically I build the engine back up and the guys I worked with didn’t realise that that engine has solid tappets basically the valves were lapped but not adjusted clearances would you know what but to measure ect? Thanks.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I've never done any work on the valves or cams. Unfortunately, I no longer have my shop manuals either so I don't have any info to offer as far as specs, clearances, etc.
@carl7162
@carl7162 5 жыл бұрын
I hello my engine is still together can this be done with the top end together? your awesome man I found you videos very informative.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it can. I have another video called 2005 Mazda 3 - 2.3L to 2.5L Engine Swap. Timing Fix! where I do it in the car. Good luck!
@randoms959
@randoms959 7 жыл бұрын
Great video...i am attempting this next weekend with the engine still in the car...i am upgrading the cams on My 2 0 duratec focus. Would you be able to tell me the correct torque settings for the cams head bolts ect? Thankyou
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I don't have that info. Lot's of choices though. Start with a google search for it. Then you can search the Focus forums where there will no doubt be that info available. Otherwise, consult the service manual or get a short subscription to a site like AllDataDiy. Good luck!
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have a copy of the Factory Service Manual?
@randoms959
@randoms959 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I do not.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Sign up at Mazda3Forums. Search for the factory service manual download. You'll be glad that you did! That's where I got mine and I've used it a ton. If for some strange reason you can't find it let me know.
@pingpong9656
@pingpong9656 Жыл бұрын
Use a regular ratchet and make a click sound when it feels about right. That's how the pros do it.
@ryansmith8344
@ryansmith8344 6 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance here.... But how does the crankshaft rotate after you lock the camshafts down with the timing plate? This is my first time working on this engine but in my other experience the crankshaft is locked into position with the cams using the timing chain.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Smith The crankshaft is not keyed to the chain sprocket. Until you put the crank pulley on and lock it down the crank is free to spin. See my Part 3 video. First 14 minutes shows it.
@ryansmith8344
@ryansmith8344 6 жыл бұрын
I get it now. Friction fit. Thanks for the help.
@zackky11
@zackky11 3 жыл бұрын
Great series as an advisor wish the techs would read the procedures before assuming they know what they are doing.
@zackky11
@zackky11 3 жыл бұрын
What did you do to reset the misfire correction profile without the scan tool?
@eddiemartinez4636
@eddiemartinez4636 5 жыл бұрын
These videos apply to the I4 turbo eco boost like the focus St correct??
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
No. First gen Mazda 3 and 6 only. I dont know anything about the engines you mentioned.
@dgb5820
@dgb5820 2 жыл бұрын
You are 100%
@reginaldjohnson9628
@reginaldjohnson9628 5 жыл бұрын
Please help, I have to replace my oil pump on my Ford Focus. Do you know if the oil pump has to be timed or not. If the answer is yes how do you set time.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not aware of any pump timing. Some older engines I do think needed pump timing. Here's a video where you can watch the guy install a pump and then set the timing on the engine. Hope this helps and good luck! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGK1faeJnrd4pc0
@snowblind5151
@snowblind5151 6 жыл бұрын
Best make sure that gear bolt is tight before turning the cam with a wrench.
@lindsaymcdiarmid429
@lindsaymcdiarmid429 4 жыл бұрын
Hang on... if you locked your cams from rotating how are you turning the crank?
@tegimr
@tegimr Жыл бұрын
Crank is keyless, and relies on the pulley pressure to lock. Ford manual says to do this initial alignment with the pulley on, remove the pulley, verify crankshaft is against stop, then install the cover. This process eliminates the problem stated.
@snowblind5151
@snowblind5151 6 жыл бұрын
I need help with my 2007 ford 2.3l ,trying to set timing ,motor in car ,valve cover off ,harmonic balancer off . The cams are set TDC with shim.I try to wrench crank the crank with timing cover on and I get interference ,two half cranks either way and the crank stops . I looked up if this was a interference motor and I found not. Before I take apart the motor ,could you give me any insight to what could be obstructing the crank? My timing chain turns fine with cams. I had a problem with the surpentine belt jumping off at cold start .Reason ,weak tensioner . Well the last time it popped I noticed the belt not cranking . The ballancer bolt came loose. So I went to go set the timing after your video and I misplaced the diamond washer on the outside of the pulley instead of the inside. The motor half cranked and the bolt came loose on the harmonic pulley. the motor hardly cranked now I have this obstruction in setting the crank. Anything would help,I bought another vehicle within the last time I wrote.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын
The 2.3L is an interference engine. It's clearly stated in the Mazda Technical Training document that I show in the very beginning of part three of this series. The only suggestion I have is to try this: remove the cam timing plate, rotate the engine over until all four pistons are at the halfway point in their cylinders, spin the cams around 360 degrees and then put the cam timing plate back in, try to turn the engine over again. If it does not turn then you have to investigate further I'm afraid.
@snowblind5151
@snowblind5151 6 жыл бұрын
I removed the cams to see if all the valves would pop up ,I heard this was a good way to check for bent valves. I have two out of 16 that popped up, not sure if this was accurate , so I'm taking off the head. I may try to put a bore scope down the plug entry to check first.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын
I've never had to do this before so I'm not much help. I think pulling the head is the only way to be sure. Looking at the piston tops with the bore scope isn't 100% from what I've heard. Also, I don't think most borescopes allow you to see upwards at the valves, so gotta pull the head. Sorry.
@e50095
@e50095 6 ай бұрын
Is it a fair statement to say that unless you take off the timing chain, you don't have to worry about bending the valves with the pistons while you go through the timing process with the 3 tools?
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 ай бұрын
Unless the engine has jumped timing, I'd say yes. Even if you do remove the chain, just turning the crank by hand isn't going to bend a valve IMO. (Unless you go full gorilla and force it.) A piston might touch a valve as you're turning by hand but you'll know it right away.
@C0Y0TE5
@C0Y0TE5 8 ай бұрын
2011 Ranger 2.3L. (220,000km/130,000 miles. Ford recommends changeout at 190,000km) -- Ford quoted me $1500 Canadian$ and six hours labor. My fav mechanic shop will not touch it. -- Have a DIY friend who has some experience with keyless crankshafts; says I can do it. Will be studying your video series. -- Not certain if I need to change sprockets also at that mileage. It will depend on observed wear when I open engine?
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 8 ай бұрын
The first gen engines in my videos are chain driven so won't apply to belts. No need to change sprockets unless something very unusual happens to damage them.
@thadiusawala863
@thadiusawala863 Жыл бұрын
I got a ford escape 2008 hybrid since I change the valve I have been having issues with the timing
@I_Am_SoSo
@I_Am_SoSo 5 жыл бұрын
thank you!! i have a code for p0335 and i have the replacement part. all i really have to do is replace the sensor exactly where its sitting with out doing those alignments right?
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
Correct, you don't have to do the timing adjustments to replace the sensor. Prior to taking the sensor out, mark it somehow around the bolt heads for reference because you want the new one to go back in the same position. Clear the current engine codes. If the sensor isn't bad then you have to do your diagnostics to figure out if the appropriate signal/power/ground is available at the sensor etc. Do a good visual inspection on the wires and connector while you're down there. Mazda's are kind of funny, so if the sensor doesn't fix it, and the wiring/signal/power/grounds are good, then you may have to check the timing to verify that it is correct. Good luck!
@I_Am_SoSo
@I_Am_SoSo 5 жыл бұрын
@@baxrok2. thanks i did all that and the engine light is gone. drove it aroumd for awhile to see how it ran and so far so good. i have a odb2 reader and an app that picks up real time on the car behaviour too 😁
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
@@I_Am_SoSo Well done. Congrats!
@I_Am_SoSo
@I_Am_SoSo 5 жыл бұрын
@@baxrok2. thanks
@markhalvorson4511
@markhalvorson4511 7 жыл бұрын
Can this procedure be done with the engine in the car? I don't have the equipment to take mine out.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it certainly can. I did it in the car too. Look for my engine swap video named Timing Fix. In that video I am actually teaching myself how to do the timing with the engine in the car. The procedure is generally the same in or out of the car. In the car you have to remove the motor mount and stuff like that but the timing steps are the same. Cam plate, TDC, pulley. Turn engine over. Verify. Tighten!
@bintanghaman5761
@bintanghaman5761 5 жыл бұрын
Sir Can you explain the position of the vvt camshaft cz I opened that and no marking for that.. can you explain please
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
The service manual does not have any information for the parts inside the VVT gear. Here is a video that might help you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWSql6t8pNeNe5Y
@deadprivacy
@deadprivacy 4 жыл бұрын
Weve got one that when timed up by the manual, and its reverse flowing, it runs but its exhausting on the inlet and inletting on the exhaust wtf. Came in broken with a broken pin in the exhaust cam so we have no reference to go off
@snowblind5151
@snowblind5151 6 жыл бұрын
My 6 mm bolt tightens in but there is a yellow arrow at 10 o'clock on the pulley that baffles me because it is not inline with the sensor.
@outfishing3909
@outfishing3909 3 жыл бұрын
Important question!!! When taking the pulley and bolt out is there enough clearance to actually get it out without taking the entire wheel well apart or taking the engine out. I have all the parts I'm about ready to start the job and I just realized after loosening the pulley bolt is there enough room to actually pull it out?
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
It's been a few years now but if I recall correctly you will have to drop the engine down a bit to clear the frame.
@outfishing3909
@outfishing3909 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man I don't like that answer lmao but thank you for such a fast reply!
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
@@outfishing3909 Compared to the timing job overall, loosening up a motor mount will be a minor matter! lol Good luck!
@outfishing3909
@outfishing3909 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about 5 hours in right now, did the entire thing right as far as I can tell and it's it's starting. The car ran before I replaced the crank pulley. It's It's 2.3 turbo. The sensor is to the 20th tooth I used the timing pegs and everything, redid it twice now still no start. It cranks
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
@@outfishing3909 Even if the timing is out it should start I think. My timing was way off and the damn thing still started and ran. Ran like total shit, but ran. Double check the crank sensor wiring and position. Car won't start without crank signal. It controls spark and fuel.
@megatonesilva6546
@megatonesilva6546 6 ай бұрын
So if the engine is still in the car.......how can I rotate the crankshaft to ensure the crank is still at TDC? The engine Im working on is in a 2015 Ford Fusion. Note: The oassenger axle does not have to be removed to install the timing peg.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 ай бұрын
Remove the starter and turn the flywheel to rotate the crankshaft.
@dakotaben1965
@dakotaben1965 5 жыл бұрын
What was the size of the bolt that you used for the sst
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 5 жыл бұрын
The entire portion that screws into the engine is ~38.5mm. I think that this number is also available via a Google search in case you want further verification. Thanks and good luck!
@thadiusawala863
@thadiusawala863 Жыл бұрын
I followed ur part three video and it starts for about a minute and went off again,my engine is not removed fro. The car so that's why I need a video
@GarthELibre
@GarthELibre Жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is that in this design there is a tensioner on both sides, the leading side (leading from the cams to the crank), and the trailing side (going from the crank to the cams). I have seen tensioners where there is only one on the trailing side. Having one on the leading side too means I am relying that the tensioner is pushing to the max taking up all the slack. If the tensioner is but pushing to the max I could have a slightly different timing.
@tegimr
@tegimr Жыл бұрын
There is a guide on both sides, only one tensioner.
@DAZ_SR
@DAZ_SR 3 жыл бұрын
Rather than moving it with the back of the crankshaft (when the motor is still in the car) just use the camshafts.
@CarlosDiaz-ox6nd
@CarlosDiaz-ox6nd 3 жыл бұрын
How exactly would you do that please answer this if you get a notification about this god bless youu
@chriscusick6890
@chriscusick6890 2 жыл бұрын
There are flats built into one cam shaft to put a wrench on.
@fullmindstorm
@fullmindstorm 3 жыл бұрын
So if I align the 9 tooth without taking anything oof, because it's a chain and not belt between the crankshaft pulley and the cams, then I should be top dead center and be on time?
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
Chain or belt it does not matter. Aligning the 9th tooth on the crankshaft pulley is only one of the three steps necessary to verify timing. Basically three steps: put crankshaft at TDC, lock camshafts, set crank pulley to 9th tooth on the sensor and lock it down. I show all of the steps in this video and in part 4 of the series.
@fullmindstorm
@fullmindstorm 3 жыл бұрын
@@baxrok2. It is a very complete series, thank you for uploading this.
@jakubveverka3702
@jakubveverka3702 4 жыл бұрын
Please add automatic captions. Thanks you
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