BMW 6-SERIES F12 650i WHY I HATED IT - AND WHY I LOVE IT

[@PhilipFly11]

Good evening Tim I have a 650i E63 with the so-called ‘comfort access’. The key stays in my pocket at all times. Hand on the door handle, pull once to unlock, pull a second time to open and, once inside, press the brake pedal and start button to hear the lion roar. At the end of the journey, press the start button to silence her, exit the car, close the door and hold the right hand on the door handle with thumb on the lock and she locks. Simples!

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I have comfort access as well - and gave your plan a go tonight - pull once - pull twice - nothing! I'll have a go with Carly to see if I can find something to change

[@mezzmarr1209]

Timm, I had the F12 for 3 years and the E63 for 4 years before that. Unfortunately, mine got caught up in the engine recall over the valve stems. The dealer kept it for a month, applied the CCP (Customer Care Package), and honestly, it felt like a Ferrari when they finished. Eventually, I traded it, along with a Panamera S, and transitioned to multiple F02 7-Series models. The air suspension on those far surpassed anything prior. Over 35 years, I’ve owned 21 BMWs. The F12 was the last truly great 6-Series. I had the 2018 F06, but it lost the magic, just like the G12 did with the 7-Series. BMW stopped making true driving machines after 2015.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thanks! 35 years on BMW's isn't bad, I'm around the same with the first being an E28 518i which got written off in an RTA!

[@jonathancost4927]

I’ve got an F06 and although Timm’s car looks very nice in all the right ways, I’m a 7 series man so I think the F02 will be my next choice.

[@alimuzhussain8394]

Im trying to think who you remind of….. Ahaaa Gary Rhodes the famous TV chef Your voice is too comforting and nice, you come across more like a TV chef, KZbin chef ☺️ than a motoring journalist Your voice would suit you more like a tv chef, someone making nice cakes etc 😂

[@mezzmarr1209]

@@jonathancost4927

[@BAC_Mono]

Tim, thanks for all your posts about the 650, I had my E63 for 8 years and with your guides it remained great shape. I’ve now moved on to an EV, (a 585 bhp KIA EV6 GT), which delivers performance on a different level. I’m convinced the age of petrol cars is coming to an end now EVs are so good, and no oil leaks!

[@Alvin-bmw645ci]

Hi Timm, this is Alvin, your number one fan. Im glad you're enjoying your 650. I can hear the excitement in your voice. Congratulations, 😊my dear friend. Blessings

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

ALVIN! Great to hear from you, and thanks my friend!

[@xsawa69x]

Hi again Timm! It's the third month of my being in possesion of 645 2003 and it just went on a full engine service (not only the engine) and thanks to your videos i knew exactly what was i talking about, when talking about the potential problems of the car :) Lucky me my best friend - the mechanic doing the work knew allready all about all of them but anyways i showed him all the printscreens regarding the possible problems - i cut them all off from many of your videos. THANKS MAN! YO'RE A LEGEND, WHAT AN EXCELLENT JOB YOU'VE DONE. Thanks to all that even non mechanics have a lot of advanced knowledge that only good mechanics possess.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

That's very kind of you, I enjoy making these video's!

[@us581]

Always pleasant catching up with your little gems. Congrats great looking car!!

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thanks!

[@habsom1406]

Thanks Timm, I enjoyed that! Awesome ride! Sounds glorious and instantaneous, lovely day for it too!

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thanks, it was great fun!

[@eamonhq7405]

Great drive and excellent commentary

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bernardpullon4632]

My 97 E39 (540i) has the cruise control buttons on the steering wheel but each button has a completely different profile. Admittedly, there are times I am feeling around for the right button, but for straight-road driving, no problem. I like the simplicity rather than the overthinking BMW did subsequently.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thanks Bernard!

[@jonathancost4927]

Still makes me chuckle watching Timm using the lever when it has paddles! Paddles Timm, paddles! My 640 has keyless go but not keyless entry unfortunately.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thanks for an idea for the next video - 'why paddles on the steering wheel are useless'!

[@jonathancost4927]

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 😂😂😂 I use mine a lot, surely they do exactly the same as the centre console lever when in manual mode?

[@monoralph1375]

Pleased to hear You are enjoying the F12. I purchased a F13 about 6 months ago. Truly the nicest and most complicated car I have ever owned. The engine sounds and handling are most enjoyable. Be sure to change the oil much more frequently than BMW recommends. I do oil change at 3000 - 5000 miles maximum.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Danny1282]

It's a beautiful spec car that time after my 635d which I still love will either be a 640d or if the missus allows a 840d, keep up the good work

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thanks Danny!

[@ZiggyLucas-z7m]

Nice video Timm. Cars can be a bit like new shoes, you have to wear them in and get used to them. Looking forward to many more videos. Some of the features of the F12 you mentioned I have in my E63 650i Edition Sport. The Steptronic gearbox for one is awesome, I actually love the manual mode on the paddles in drive. It's great for engine breaking and overtaking. I've driven quite a few newer BMW's and some of the features can be mind blowing albeit maybe little gimmicky, keyless entry for example. The one thing I really hate about modern BMW's, and many other makes, is the information screen pod. For me it's like the designers forgot to put them in, so they just bolted them to the dashboard. The F12 however is the first one I think I could get used to. I mean it's still a pod, but looks designed instead of an afterthought. Keep up the great work Timm

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I couldn't agree more, I'm growing into the F12 now - but still love driving the E31, so different.

[@xmyar53]

Will follow your progress with maintenance and any issues that come up but I'm liking it so far! I have a 2007 E64 and love it but I know it's getting a little old in the tooth!

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I got to love the E64 in spite of its age and failings, it was still a great car when I sold it!

[@Cloud-yp4eh]

Hey Tim. Great video as ever. I have anF13 640D. Extremely quick with 620nM but does 55 mpg !

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

55mpg! I'm at 21mpg at the moment - the diesel is probably the clever choice!

[@dickhilt]

55 mpg? I have a 2018 F06 GC and even driving like a granny you’re looking at 45mpg. Still a lot better than 21mpg and I reckon not a lot slower than the 650i.

[@WayToManyAssassins]

Even your cat knew to check for oil leaks underneath 😂

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

He's well trained!

[@backy86]

Love your videos!

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thank you!

[@farazgholami158]

Hello tim it's faraz. Good to see you well and happy. I absolutely love your new 650i such a perfect car...you know I will copy you now again like e38 e63 e31 😂😂

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

FARAZ! Great to hear from you my old friend! Probably best to wait and see what blows up first!

[@mbarrett635]

Can’t you leave the key in your pocket and just touch the door handle to lock and unlock?

[@DougLoucks-v7t]

Yes, you can.

[@WayToManyAssassins]

surely, even my 2008 e90 has that

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Looks like it was coded out - I'm going to fiddle with the coding this weekend to see if I can re-enable it!

[@394pjo]

Love your channel, you have saved my E39 a dozen times with your advice, but all that being said I think the F12 is the fat bird at the school disco that no one wants to dance with. Sorry.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I'm glad my info helped - the F12 is certainly a fat bird that's for sure!

[@KimCJorgensen]

My first thought was, you must have had a bad day, and then you changed your tune. Somewhere in 2nd gear near the rev limiter, is my guess🙂 It goes like stink, looks like a million, and I'm envious. What year is it? You never mentioned that, I think. All the modern cars are similar, AFAIK, you have to push the ignition button to wake it up. Oh, and I told you; you're going to love the 8 speed auto. I have yet to experience anything smoother than that. I had the F10 (525D) and the G32 (630d GT) both with 8 speed auto. Especially the G32 was fantastic, though not to everybody's liking.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Thanks Kim, it's a 2011 - so 13 years old already! It really needed a good thrashing, once I stopped babying the car it came alive!

[@L0RDLUK]

As far as the keyless entry goes, can you not do it the same way as with an E63/64? I can just come to my E63 with my key in my pocket, put my hand behind the handle and the car unlocks itself. That way I don't even have to take it out of my pocket. Same thing with locking it, you just put your hand on the lock and the car simply locks itself.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Unfortunately my F12 did not come with the comfort feature, as did my E64!

[@StephenGarnett]

The trickiest thing for me re: keyless entry is programming 2 seperate profiles to 2 different keys. I just can't manage it somehow. Maybe a good idea for a tutorial (if you have 2 different drivers intended for this vehicle)? I'm more of a speed limiter guy than cruise control TBH, but take a big fat guess what button is right next to the limit button on the wheel of my M6... Anyway, kitty likes your f12, and kitty is in charge.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

If I could get in with the key in my pocket I would be happy!

[@daveglover6115]

Is a keyless entry vehicle covered by insurance if parked on an open driveway, that would be my concern...

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I'll let you know if it gets stolen!

[@owenleeming1836]

Be interesting to see one of these against a v10 E64 m6

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I reckon it will be down to road conditions and tyres - I can't see much else going safely down that lane with any measure of safety

[@dougquaid4745]

Great to see you enjoying the new 6 Tim

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Good to hear from you Doug!

[@dougquaid4745]

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation And you my friend

[@jamesellis3535]

I have keyless entry on my 2020 5 series and once I unlock it everything works without pressing the start button.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Looks like they got it right by 2020 - in 2011 it isn't working!

[@josedasilva4433]

you can change alot of settings using carly.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I did that at the weekend - still more to do!

[@greebj]

I'm praying for you that your early N63 doesn't live up to its reputation.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

I'm sure to have no problems at all after a good prayer!

[@jonathanevans9257]

Do you have to worry about the key being scanned like we do with Merc key and keep them in a 'Faraday cage' pouch? How can they sell cars that are so easy to steal? PS You cant beat the sound of a V8 starting!

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

A Faraday cage is a good idea - I'm on Amazon - and on their way!

[@bernardpullon4632]

My 97 E39 (540i) has the cruise control buttons on the steering wheel but each button has a completely different profile. Admittedly, there are times I am feeling around for the right button, but for straight-road driving, no problem. I like the simplicity rather than the overthinking BMW did subsequently.

[@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation]

Less fiddlyness the better!