Introduction to Servo Motors and Motion Controllers

Here is a basic introduction to servo motors and drives used in motion control.
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[@edkcustoms]

If this man didn't make video's about servo's i would have cried buckets 😂😅 Thanks alot!

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome :)

[@coasterbp]

Good stuff, Tim. I will admit, as soon as I click play on one of your videos, I try and say, "Hi, this is Tim!" at the same time you do. I'm getting pretty good at it. My moms proud....

[@TimWilborne]

Haha, that's funny. Thanks for watching!

[@zachquertermous8366]

Hey Tim, can you make a video on how to program these servo motors on Studio/RS Logix 5000? That would be awesome

[@TimWilborne]

I'm debating it Zach. It depends on how this video does. It is a little out of our normal videos.

[@coasterbp]

@@TimWilborne I think its a good idea. As someone who programs a lot in Studio 5K, I find your information useful, but always looking for topics that I don't use a lot and servos is one of them.

[@tctn]

Mate, this is very informative. I was having difficulties to get the idea behind the drives and how they work. Your thorough explanation helped a lot to put the bricks in place. 🙂 Thank you.

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome Tayfun!

[@ปักษาวายุ-ม6ฐ]

Hello Tim, How to wiring Terminal block module to PLC , I use drive Delta ASD B3 L

[@manusholm1544]

i have several servo motors and some drivers, all salvaged. can you do a how to connect up and test runn. like this vid, but the analog signal thing you use i dont have will need a nother way to give that signal

[@bastablet9239]

Top. Do you have a tutorial on configering limit switches and homing scenario's

[@color200]

How do you connect voltage controller to servo ? which 2 pins ?

[@aussiegruber86]

Thanks Tim these types of videos are really good.

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you like them!

[@kvong615]

Can you make a video on how to synchronize two servo motor. On CCW.

[@TimWilborne]

You can't truly synchronize two servos on a Micro800. You can only start both of the at the same time with the same parameters and hope for the best.

[@lemastermind6005]

Hello Tim, good day I wanted to know the serial number of your servomotor

[@justinpuzak2558]

Hi Tim. a video about the different types of servo motion control would be cool if you ever find the time. like stand alone servos, bus based, open architecture, ect.

[@TimWilborne]

That would be a good one. We don't have the hardware for it so let me do some brainstorming.

[@vorapobautomation9760]

How to activate R brake of kinetix5500 in run mode not just only stop mode ?

[@personal989]

Tim, is there a difference between a "servo" and an "indexing servo". I want a servo to do something once it sees the Photo-Eye and gets enough encoder pulses. Then based on some inputs for start, and dwell, it cycles and goes back to a zero position. Thanks for you help.

[@TimWilborne]

An "indexing servo drive" has the motion control part built in. This usually means you can trigger a motion event to happen when an input such as a photoeye is seen. A regular servo drive requires some external motion controller to operate the servo drive.

[@kyleberlin6990]

Hi Tim, are you able to control one of these 220v drivers with a microcontroller?

[@stevecarter2922]

Hello Tim can you tell me what would cause a servo motor to set a higher torque valve as the machines get older .

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Steve, I'd guess mechanical wear.

[@azeemahammed8646]

could do you explain about motion group a little? whats the difference between Axis -consumed, Axis servo. Axis servo drive, ....generic ,generic drive ,CIP drive?

[@TimWilborne]

I've got a few more motion videos and the works. Let me see how they go.

[@davestake44]

Hi Tim ,Just started watching your videos great info . If it’s possible can you do a video on finding servo motor ratings with out any motor name plate info on it . New to CNC machines ,trying to retro fit CNC given to me . Any info would be appreciated

[@milenrusev9784]

Hi Tim, I'm trying to synchronise 4 servo motors with ASDA-B3 controllers. Can you help me with that? Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

No, never played with those.

[@gixman92]

hey Tim for the Kinetix 5700 do you need program to tune it or make it with PID? and another thing on motion group axis Propieties>>Velocity Loop does the Hertz affect the motion if i change them and set some limit on Error Tolerrance just say 350 degre because they rotate 360 degre and with a tolerante of 10 degre ?

[@TimWilborne]

I haven't worked with the Kinetix 5700 but autotuning is available on the Kinetix 5500's software.

[@deepaktewatia4245]

Hi tim you have kintex 5100 servo program video course

[@TimWilborne]

No

[@jaikumar2682]

This one really helps me like all the other videos....coz im taking motion controls courses in rockwell automation

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you like it Jai!

[@santiagomoore374]

Can you share the course of link?? Course is available online??

[@tiger525wee]

Hi Tim1! thanks of your great video. can you make a video about more details of the motion controller? saw in your video that you are using galil motion controller? I am still confusing of the galil motion control connection and working principal. hope you could help

[@TimWilborne]

I don't recall a video using a Galil motion controller. Are you sure it was me?

[@azelbane87]

AN OTHER A M A Z I N G VIDEO that saves my A****😂!!!!Thank you for all your efforts in making these videos!!!Awesome!!! I need to control 1 of those AC servo motor with a Raspberry pi and by just listening I think I have a clue 😅: feed an analog signal(0-10V as you are doing in here) to the motor; I'm planning to generate the signal with the RPi PMW and have some sort of hardware that would eventually output a range of 0-10V signal; and that's it; I would add few buttons/switches for the enable,reset and EmergencySwitch. I'm planning all this if the actual driver/controller supports DIO and AIO a the same time 😬😬🤞🏼🤞🏼thank you for the inspiration

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@manmohanpathak299]

Hi sir ,please tell me i have kinetix 300 I have to convert it to kinetix 5100. The PLC is Micrologics 1400. How to convert this please help me

[@anthonymorin76]

Hello. What’s the name of the software you are using in this video. Thanks!

[@TimWilborne]

It is KNX5100C

[@HelloWorld-lt5oc]

Hi Tim, quick question for you sir. I have a Kinetix 350 attached to an Allen Bradley servo motor and whenever the MSO command is sent the Servo vibrates a lot and then faults out. However when you complete the hookup test it moves great...nice, slow, and smooth.Any ideas? Thanks!

[@TimWilborne]

Sounds like tuning.

[@jesusnegrete4418]

Any online programs that you would recommend for control panel building and PLC training and programming?

[@TimWilborne]

Have you checked out this series? www.theautomationstore.com/designing-and-building-electrical-control-panel-lessons/

[@bibinvarkey3041]

Can you suggest a universal servo drive for 50kw?

[@TimWilborne]

That's a stout motor, way larger than my applications have ever needed

[@bibinvarkey3041]

@TimWilborne : so sir can you suggest for a 25-30 kw universal servo drive range?

[@TimWilborne]

No, if you have a specific application, you need to connect with a servo brand that is popular in your area

[@williambrooks163]

I can’t seem to find this. I’m wanting to know how do servos have 100% torque at 0 rpm? Isn’t torque produced by the slip in rmf? I’m in school for motor controls so I have a understanding but that is way out of my learning

[@TimWilborne]

You know William, I vaguely understand why but I'm not sure I could explain it. Let me put it on the list to look into.

[@rashmisuryavanshi3587]

Sir, how many servo or steeper motors can we connect to 2 axis controller?

[@TimWilborne]

Typically the number of axis is the number of servos also. So 2 axis, 2 servos.

[@heeder777]

There are installations where you can have two servos per axis like a gantry router. One servo is the master and the second is the slave, You need to make sure your controller supports slave drives though.

[@michaelcostello6991]

Great information. Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@davislopang]

Hi Tim, thanks for the great video. I have a Kinetix 5100 servo and Micrologix 1400 PLC. I want to be able to write the speed and length values from my PLC to the Kinetix 5100 parameters. Can I do this on MSG instruction in my RS500 program? Hope you can do a video of this too. Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Davis. I think it would take some work, I've done it with a Micro850 and it is more than a simple message instruction. I don't plan on doing any Micrologix 1400 to Kinetix 5100 videos right now.

[@williamburroughs77766]

Hey Tim I was wondering if you or maybe someone you knows. Could tell me how to find the servo motors RPM feedback in real time. I have searched the Internet and read and looked thru all of Rockwell. Nothing on the topic. Unfortunately I don’t lots of money to spend on servo tech connect so I was hoping maybe you or someone here could help. I want to use the encoder that is on the motor not an external source either. Thanks.

[@TimWilborne]

It would depend on the particular Servo. If it is already being controlled over Ethernet, the data is likely already available in the PLC.

[@williamburroughs77766]

Kinetix 5300 is what was chosen by a Rockwell engineer for this particular application. This is a spin weld application at a former employer of mine.

[@williamburroughs77766]

@@TimWilborneif it was possible to get live position units per second then this would be a slam dunk by taking live position units per second divided by encoder resolution times 60. But all I can find is actual velocity.

[@TimWilborne]

That data is available on the 5300, it depends on the set up.

[@williamburroughs77766]

@@TimWilbornethank you I will keep digging.

[@RAMANJOTSINGH-f5p]

Hi Tim, what type of servo motor are you using like dc or BLDC?

[@TimWilborne]

AC

[@ramanjotsingh3979]

@@TimWilborne actually i have a doubt, is there any way to change the direction of BLDC motor without changing the terminal or without any switch ?

[@ramanjotsingh3979]

@@TimWilborne Can we change its direction by changing its switching sequence?

[@TimWilborne]

Many drives will accommodate reversing direction.

[@ramanjotsingh3979]

@@TimWilborne but what technique is used/required for directional change?

[@ivandimitrov2111]

lol that was really cool! Can you please more videos about Servo motors? I have never used servo motors in my life and I have a big project coming up where I need to position a wood sawing blade on the right place. Can you make a video of how to use the positioning mode?

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Ivan, it is on the list but I need to get some equipment for it.

[@Muzum-wx2ze]

How much do they cost together, drive+ motor

[@TimWilborne]

Depends on the particular setup

[@greatsunny7697]

What's the name of this servo motor and drive can you tell about this???

[@TimWilborne]

Allen Bradley 2198-E1007-ERS and TLP-A100-100-DJA32A.

[@agdtec]

I was wondering are there any servo motors that could power a table saw?

[@TimWilborne]

Plenty, but what would you gain?

[@agdtec]

@@TimWilborne From what I have understood is servo motors are brushless have more torque in the targeted rpm range and are lighter and smaller than the motors that are more expensive. That being the main reason they are not used widely in tablesaws. But I was thinking that if servo motors would actually be strong enough and lighter I could retro fit one on a saw I have to move quite often. I would rather pay a bit more for a lighter solution, than strain my back. The lighter bench saws are very underpowered.

[@dandaily7528]

I have an Allen Bradley Ultra 3000 that suddenly started moving in the reverse when referencing. ANY idea what has happened anyone ?????

[@TimWilborne]

Hard to say without no details of the system but check your reference signal and see if it is reversed

[@electricaltyler5998]

Thanks tim 👍 your a great knowledgeable professor

[@TimWilborne]

I appreciate that!

[@deepaktewatia4245]

Hi Tim sir you have any servo training course in 5100 series with micro 800

[@TimWilborne]

No

[@arvtrading]

powered belt motion alarm ???

[@TimWilborne]

?

[@arvtrading]

@TimWilborne in servo motor

[@arvtrading]

@TimWilborne what I solve this issue

[@TimWilborne]

No idea, not nearly enough info.

[@Alejo91PA]

Hi Tim. Love your videos. Can you please upload a video on a very simple servo motor programming application example using Siemens TIA Portal?

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you like our videos! We don't have the hardware for Siemens.

[@Alejo91PA]

@@TimWilborne I am about to cry right ow :(

[@personal989]

Tim, great video. I want to replace old system with a servo system. Similar machines have a 5hp motor. The process is the servo controller gets speed information and a Photo-eye to know when item is at a certain point. Then based on machine speed the servo shaft rotates at same speed as machine to push an item up using a part attached to the shaft. I'd like to know more about servos that use a start point, speed input and rotation (stops or dwells once rotated), and it returns to start waiting for the next cycle to begin. Maybe you'll do a video on these basics.

[@arulkumar927]

I like to know servo parameter setting in drive ,coz it's some tricky to know that

[@shammcity00]

Keep the good work!

[@TimWilborne]

Thank you Mattheus. We will!

[@vorapobautomation9760]

I use kinetix 5500 025H. How to solve the S30 fault problem one motor draw other motor because they run difference speed with each servo use loadcell control speed the motor 1 draw motor 2 I see the DC bus value of motor 1 around 500VDC and motor 2 DC bus around 750VDC all time and it can run only 2 minute and S30 fault appear every cycle ?

[@josett7759]

So a plc can't control a servo

[@TimWilborne]

Sure you can, there are lots of PLCs that are capable of servo control, some over Ethernet, some with pulse and direction, some with analog signals.

[@azelbane87]

❤🤚👌🤘🤙👍🙌👐🫶

[@smgrabbany]

Hay Tim what is your daughter doing there?

[@vincentgitiva8849]

She is learning 😅

[@vtrandal]

servo mooter