Program a Micro820 to Control a Powerflex 525 with a UDFB

[@TimWilborne]

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[@rajamahendra4170]

SIR PLEASE DO TELL ME HOW TO VARY FREQUENCY OF A DRIVE IN SCADA SIR WHEN MY PLC MICRO 850 AND DRIVE IS SHNEIDER ATS 630 DRIVE

[@rajamahendra4170]

SIR I HAVE MICRO PLC 850 BUT DRIVE IS SCHNEIDER ATS630 I NEED TO SHOW FREQUENCY IN SCADA FT VIEW WHAT IS THE SOLUTION SIR PLEASE DO TELL ME SIR

[@johnbrinkley1440]

What you do for us techs is absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for what you give back to the industry. I appreciate it .

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks John, you made my morning!

[@darthenx2585]

Thanks Tim! How many PF525s can be supported on a micro 850 PLC using this method? Can it support 8 to 10? I was able to complete a project using this method using 2 drives and an HMI. Just wondering what is the limit on the Micro 850.

[@TimWilborne]

That is a great question and message connections are always tricky. I have only used it with 2 Powerflex drives so I don't have a practical answer, but it has 4 message connection buffers which means it can handle 4 simultaneous messages. You can stagger your messages to increase the devices it can communicate with. The following technote, which is accessible to everyone though you may need to create a free login, recommends a max of 10. Honestly, if I had 8-10 to connect to, I would look at a Compactlogix PLC. It is better suited for that application. rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/app/answers/answer_view/a_id/579164/loc/en_US#__highlight

[@rajamahendra4170]

I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING YOUR VIDEOS SINCE 6 MONTHS

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks Raja!

[@hchangv]

Hola Tim, no se si sabes español, pero te queria agradecer en mostrarnos de manera practica estas funciones, que a manera de critica, AB no facilita para los usuarios aprendices o demora mucho el averiguar y terminamos encontrando ayuda de la comunidad en redes sociales, miro mucho tus videos y te felicito por sincera ayuda. Un fuerte abrazo !

[@TimWilborne]

Gracias!

[@giovanisouza1463]

Thanks very much for this helpful video! I'm from Brazil, thanks

[@TimWilborne]

You are very welcome!

[@jameslin748]

This video is exactly what I needed for my little training setup. Thanks mate!

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@optimusprice8608]

Thanks for the great contribution

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@davidsegovia3205]

Very helpful video. Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

Glad it was helpful!

[@sergiozermeno4379]

Did you ever create a next video to this one? Demonstrating how to set variable tags to control the start and stop and speed reference?

[@skunkape5918]

Good video and audio quality

[@TimWilborne]

Thank you!

[@chuckram2188]

Hi Tim, I watched the video on your web site and just to let you know I could not "like" the video on that site but could come over to KZbin and have all the normal available options here. Thanks again for another great video.

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks for taking the time to like it Chuck!

[@personalizeararas2989]

Ola parabens pelo trabalho Aprendo muito com você, sou do Brasil e acompanha seu trabalho Sucesso

[@TimWilborne]

Obrigada

[@seymourbutts6399]

Thanks very much for this helpful video! Question about the enable bit you're using (PF_Enable_UDFB): Is it standard to enable the UDFB only when you want to use it (i.e., to read/write values), or can it be placed at the beginning of the rung (i.e., FBEN is always true)?

[@TimWilborne]

It could be and is used either way depending on the situation. I have a video coming that talks about that in detail.

[@aussiegruber86]

Good video, thanks for the content

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome.

[@blessing9517]

I like your lessons, do you guys got full micro800 programming tutorial that i can register or download as a full package?

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you like them! Here is a link to your Micro800 lessons twcontrols.com/micro800-connected-components-workbench-lessons

[@knowledgebook9690]

I'm using micro 850 and PowerFlex 400 drive . and also I'm using the same block. when i give ip address communication status simultaneously change true and false. Any solution for that?

[@CrypticCabal]

I know this is an old video, but the link seems outdated. Trying to setup a test bench to play with the drive, and can’t seem to find any resources to make the 850 communicate. If there’s something updated or additional resources, any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@TimWilborne]

Looks like the link still works. Try a search in RAs sample code

[@larryashworthjr7799]

Hey Tim, Can this Function block be used to both jog forward and reverse, as I only see jog? If so do you have a link to a video that shows it or could you make one if one doesn't exist? Thanks for all your videos.

[@TimWilborne]

Yes, further down you will see the forward and reverse signals

[@cleitonmatiasdonascimento6823]

good night Tim What is the maximum number of powerflex 525 I can control with a micro850.

[@TimWilborne]

The answer isn't completely straight forward. It can handle 16 total connections. Check out page 56 of this manual. literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/2080-um002_-en-e.pdf

[@PROFEDGE]

What version are you using? Version 22 doesn't have the trending charts any more..at least i can't it anywhere.

[@TimWilborne]

Here you go :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYa1Y3yXnbd7n68

[@TheLRBrown]

Great video. Very helpful. Is it possible to use this UDFB and MSG instructions if we want to access more parameters than those available in the UDFB? Or is it one or the other? I want to create a position move and the parameters needed are not in this UDFB

[@TimWilborne]

You should be able to do both.

[@TheLRBrown]

@@TimWilborne Thanks for the quick response. I did find another UDFB on Rockwell's site (sample code ID 95922) that is similar but also includes some of the position parameters. I will use it + a few MSG instructions and hopefully it will get the job done. Thanks again.

[@TimWilborne]

@@TheLRBrown Nice, let me know how it works. I'll have to check it out next time I'm working with CCW.

[@renanribeiro3696]

Thanks very much!

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@francisco9]

Hi Tim. Any chance that you have a video where you do the exact same thing except you use the Modbus UDFB and communicate via RS485 to the powerflex 520 series drive using the 2080-SERIALISOL plugin module?

[@TimWilborne]

I have that video coming Francisco, make sure you are subscribed.

[@douglasburnum9722]

I would say when I used this UDFB for a project of mine, I could not get it to extract the correct fault code for a 525 drive. I had to use my Tech-Connect and work alongside an A-B engineer who altered the A-B UDFB to work properly and report the correct Fault Code. I'm not sure if A-B has ever addressed this from the UDFB they freely distribute.

[@TimWilborne]

Good tip, thanks for sharing!

[@henryburnett9394]

Hi Tim Thanx a lot for this video. i used the udfb on ccw. and got the drive starting and stoping. but as soon as i disable the function block the drive goes into fault. fault 73 ENET loss. Any ideas?

[@TimWilborne]

You shouldn't disable the rung, I just put that there to walk through the exercise.

[@henryburnett9394]

@@TimWilborne Thanx a lot i played around with it and turns out. if u download with ip addres and enable the rung completly. its not going into error mode

[@adamhassell]

Hi Tim, I'm having all sorts of trouble sourcing single phase 240v input 525 drives. Everyone seems to be sold out of the 0.75kw and 0.4kw versions (I assume you're running those on your trainers?). I'm getting told 20 weeks wait here in Australia. Can you suggest a US distributor? Cheers!

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Adam, I don't think our lead times are any better but we don't use that model, ours are 120VAC input. RA doesn't allow distributors outside your area to sell to you.

[@piotrekbortnowski4081]

Thanks, a very helpful video. What about the Powerflex 753 (all Powerflex 750 series)? For this inverter, the start source and speed reference are not parameters P46, P47. The user manual is not entirely clear.

[@TimWilborne]

Don't know off the top of my head. I've never worked with them.

[@piotrekbortnowski4081]

My mistake and oversight. Of course, all the information was in a UDFB zip file. For other users: - for PF755, set P545=877 for embedded Ethernet port, - for PF75x with 20-750-ENETR, set P545=874, - for PF525, set P046=5 and P047=15 for embedded Ethernet port, - for PF52x with 25-COMM-E2P, set P046=4 and P047=4, - for PF4M with 20-COMM-E, set P106=5 and P108=5, - for PF4/40/40P/400 with 20-COMM-E, set P036=5 and P038=5. Best regards

[@TimWilborne]

@@piotrekbortnowski4081 Good info, thanks for sharing Piotrek!

[@andersondachery385]

Hello Master I would like to know if I can use this block on Rslogix 5000? thank you.

[@TimWilborne]

You don't need to. You can add the Powerflex to the IO configuration. We have a video coming on that

[@andersondachery385]

@@TimWilborne Ok. I Will find this vídeo to watch. Thank tou Very much.

[@vikaspatil5435]

How two word can convert im real value in CCW

[@octavianmaf9838]

Hello Tim! Might my question sounds stupid but if we control the VFD through Ethernet, do we still have to wire up analog output of PLC to input analog of VFD?

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Octavian. No you can run fully over Ethernet. You will the factory installed jumper from terminal 1 to 11.

[@octavianmaf9838]

@@TimWilborne Thank you very much!

[@estebanjoaquinalvarezm4737]

Thanks you for the video! It's very usefull. You have a new suscriber! Can you make a video explain how to connect to the Excel?

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks for subscribing. There is a new data log extract feature in CCW that I'm going to play with soon.

[@SonNguyen-yr1tt]

How many inverters can be connected to micro850 via rs485 ?

[@TimWilborne]

Not sure, I usually connect them over Ethernet.

[@IkechukwuObioha-js7rv]

Hello Tim I tried downloading the PF UDFB but mine was written in STL after importing. Is there a way i can convert to LAD. Or is there a link for downloading the LAD project.

[@TimWilborne]

It should work in Ladder, Structured Text, or Function Blocks. What happens if you try to put it in a ladder program? If you mean if you open up the UDFB, you see structured text, that is what most will be written in...people hate to hear me say this but it is the most efficient way to write a program. But this won't prevent you from using it in ladder logic.

[@IkechukwuObioha-js7rv]

Yeah After I imported the file and opened it, it was on STL. However the one on your video series was on LAD and it looks straight forward and simple.

[@TimWilborne]

This video is several years old so I may have missed it but I just scrubbed through the video and I don't see where I ever opened the UDFB up. Can you give me a timestamp?

[@IkechukwuObioha-js7rv]

@@TimWilborne I noticed if you double-click on the UDFB, it was written in STL. I watched again and followed how you called the block on ladder.

[@TimWilborne]

It was STL in this video as well. I found the file. Just create a ladder program and you'll be able to put it in just like the video shows.

[@CarlosJavierIEC]

What version of RSLinx do you use for Windows 10? Regards!

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Carlos, I believe it is RsLinx Classic 3.90, you can find the details at compatibility.rockwellautomation.com/Pages/home.aspx

[@CarlosJavierIEC]

@@TimWilborne Hi Tim! Okay I’ll try with that version. Thanks! 👍🏻

[@huntersblue]

can you reverse with this function block??

[@TimWilborne]

Yes

[@huntersblue]

I'm trying to implement this can you give me some pointers? Thank you

[@alanpontes837]

good night teacher put the subtitle in portuguese thank you very much for the teaching you are a master

[@lewsut]

That's more like it!

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks!