Tin Man 01x19 | Stargate SG1 For the First Time…Still NOT a Star Trek Podcast

[@michaeltruss3142]

The DHD is only for dial out. An incoming wormhole can still connect, so removing the crystal won't stop others from using it. Remember the SG at the SGC doesn't have a DHD from the original gate builders, so no crystals and it still works.

[@Markus117d]

I guess Brent in the 47 times they watched Stargate SG1, has never noticed the SGC / Earth gate doesn't have a DHD, Effectively the crystals already been pulled, and it hasn't stopped off world gates dialing in at all, lol..

[@timamherst-clark2699]

Actually, the DHD is sunk into the floor under Sgt. Harriman's desk, and he dials out using his feet!

[@Markus117d]

​@@timamherst-clark2699Lol..

[@Markus117d]

​@@timamherst-clark2699😂

[@A_Name_]

@13:30 we havent evolved any protection for the carotid in our neck. Sometimes more protection can be prohibitive tho. If we had a 2nd rib cage or a giant clavical, it would limit head movement which as hunters and/or foragers would be problematic. Sorry nerded out there a second.

[@Markus117d]

They say the body is a machine, which is true, Just because we have feelings doesn't make it untrue, Maybe any machine is capable of feelings if it's complex enough..

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

I think the objection also comes from the psychological/sociological angle where talking and thinking about human beings that way is probably not healthy for morals/ethics.

[@TheFireMonkey]

to me, Altair is a computer from the mid 1970s - the Altair 8800. Don't know if that is where they got the name or not, but that is what comes to mind for me.

[@Markus117d]

To me, Altair is from the 1956 movie "Forbidden planet"

[@stuartwald2395]

For a great exposition of what defines a "human" (as opposed to a sentient being in "Measure of a Man"), read Asimov's "The Bicentennial Man"; the story steadily moves from the first issue (sentience and rights) to the second (humanity).

[@Rocco1332]

The Sandman does a pretty good job of addressing the "seasons" to immortality.

[@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond]

This is an interesting episode, partly because it's somewhat divisive. And yet, if you go to a comic con and meet other gate fans, simply saying "comtrya!" will earn you a friend for life.

[@BeOurGeist]

Ooooh I can’t wait for the reaction to the next ep - the journey to the first season finale is about to begin!

[@paulholloway7666]

"Is immortality as great as it's cracked up to be?" I've never heard anyone claim immorality would be cool. I would find it refreshing if someone from sci-fi /fantasy said they were immortal and they are enjoying their immortality.

[@Markus117d]

Yeah, outliving everyone you care about, can't beat it, lol

[@Lifesworder]

Do you mean "pine for"? To opine means to have an opinion about something. Anyway, interesting idea you were talking about.

[@loopslytle]

A good movie concerning the conversation on immortality is 'Man of Earth.' It is a fantastic movie!

[@Matej_Sojka]

It was Morden's sister who was lost in hyperspace. Shadows being masters of hyperspace travel, literally the first race ever to use it, offered to find her for him.

[@bluntman1138]

The shadows weren't the first race to use hyperspace travel. Several others, including loriens race the first race, mastered it long before the shadows were discovered

[@chriscompton3228]

comtraya is from star trek, the episode with the little alien that drank tranya with kirk. sneaky start trek reference.

[@mworldxyz5631]

I think the next episode is my favorite season 1 episode XD

[@elisebalk]

This episode could be a prequel to the series "Upload"

[@A_Name_]

Im going to need you guys to steep it up. Nothing drastic. 3-5 epsiodes a day should do 🍻

[@GregInHouston2]

The movie 50 First Dates covers this.

[@arakuss1]

One of the issues with immortality is that first several hundred years. What is the effect on someone constantly seeing their loved ones die and fade away? Would it begin to harden someone after those hundreds of years? Not just their loved ones but their children and children's children. It is one thing when your amongst a race that are all immortal but when its just you or a few that has to have an affect. The redundancy of certain events and repetitive nature could just turn someone into more of a machine mind, or drive them mad. I am sure out of those who just tire of life, or go mad or turn evil you might have a few who would gain wisdom and wish to impart it. Can you then imagine then the responsibility of guiding others who are just mortal. The temptations to use your wisdom of countless years may backfire. Oh and when it does are you then just controlling other lives or does those lives that perhaps are cut short because of your guidance mean anything after awhile? I would think after a while one might then just seek seclusion or venture far beyond to seek the answer to questions that mortal life can't answer. In the end I would assume a immortal life would just be a lonely life.

[@KeithDCanada]

The whole living forever concept.... Great on paper, but I think it would be a living hell eventually. As it is right now, the things I loved to do in my teens and twentys... I used to be a MASSIVE MMORPG player... and now the closest thing to a video game I can stomach is loading up Civilization on the pc every now and then, or a mobile game to pass the time here and there. I've lost my taste for online gaming. It bores me now. Why? Because nothing is new to me anymore. A game comes out and I initially think 'Oooo, maybe I'll try that one' and then I realize it's just another X style of game that is basically like the Y series of games, just with diff story and graphics.... I then think, 'why bother.. I've played dozens like it before'. ...and that's just with hobbies. Things that used to mean a lot to me, have become passing interests that hold my attention for a few minutes to look at. That's only 30-35 years.... what would it be like to live 300 years.... 1000 years... 10,000 years....? Would human relationships even really mean anything to you anymore? I can't remember important events from my childhood in more detail than a few passing flashes of the most important pieces? My best friends in childhood are now just brief moments in my mind of riding bikes out at the BMX track, or sneaking into the basement on a summers day to play Atari where we were supposed to be outside playing. How long until I forget them entirely, and they blur into the sea of faces from hundreds of years of companionship with new people? I've heard people say that decades after a loved one passes that they sometimes have trouble remembering exactly hat they looked like if they don't have a picture to help them remember... would an important love eventually just be recalled in passing as 'I think I spent a few years with a blonde girl who like to paint.... a least I think she was blonde.....'. Brent, and Jeff,... if you have never seen it, I would HIGHLY recommend watching the low budget sci-fi film "Man From Earth'. It directly tackles this question.

[@randallwong7196]

Comtraya! Reviving dead pets? Those stories often have the pets evil, don't they?

[@kant12]

Your body is literally a biological machine. It's not science fiction lol.

[@TheFireMonkey]

Personally, I find a well written story that asks a question and then leaves it, is better. Stories where the question is asked and then they "resolve" it, is ok, but it is like being spoon feed. I prefer having the story present a question and leave it to me to come up with the answer.

[@Matej_Sojka]

I do not disagree but my problem with giving the audience a straight answer is that it is often not very well thought out. But letting the audience come up with their own answer means both that the answer is satisfactory and also that show can never use it for further world building as everyone has their own answers that differ... So overall I want answers to be given and be good in order to benefit the show.

[@TheFireMonkey]

@@Matej_Sojka I can see your point, though even then, I'd rather have most things presented with multiple answers. That is, have the different possible views presented and debated a bit and leave it open ended. If the question is, what makes you YOU - is it your memories, your emotions, your physical body, etc, then sure, have the question explored, but in the end, my opinion may not agree with your opinion, but both opinions can still be valid. It isn't a case of a right and wrong answer - it depends on one's world view.

[@MattLathrum]

I think not answering the question is a bit of a cop-out. Anyone can ask questions, but finding a meaningful answer is where the value of the story resides.

[@TheFireMonkey]

@@MattLathrum If it were answers to plot issues, sure, but answers to deep philosophical questions - the fact is that sometimes there are opinions, but not definitive answers. I'm in favour of them presenting viewpoints, but there are limits. Some things can be answered, others things need to be more open. It's like saying God is real or God is not real in the context of a show like this - by all means the characters can have their own views and maybe even argue for them, but it is up to the individual to decide what they believe. Much more important than being feed an answer, is if the show causes us to have to think and examine views that we might not have ever thought of before. That is what good storytelling does - just feeding answers to the "big questions" like what makes us who we are is more like indoctrination whereas asking the tough questions and promoting thought about it is educating and helping us become more than we were.

[@MattLathrum]

@@TheFireMonkey I agree there

[@SjurWarEagle]

Zathras: Comtrya

[@ThomasRelaX]

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[@elisebalk]

Broo! Zip it!

[@catprog]

32:26 but not sga-1

[@eidodk]

"We're not going to pause this"... 5 minutes later, 10 minutes of blabbering. As to the human body. It IS just a machine - it has EVERY characteristica of a machine. The ONLY difference between the human body and a man made object, is that it's made from organic materials... We can sustain life via mechanical means, during surgery, and the ONLY thing we are missing, is a self-contained energy source that can "refuel" by consuming organic material as in "food".