Gen Alpha’s OUT of Control and Teachers are Quitting

[@Vexlich]

My parents being called was the BIGGEST THREAT when I was a kid, now the parents defend their kids being outwardly violent towards others, it’s horrifying

[@Hello-n7b]

If teacher or admin told me that they were going to call my parents, I would cry. Idk how these kids do it or how the parents ignore it.

[@Vexlich]

@@Hello-n7b dude same I remembered bawling my eyes out the one & only time I got a referral, full blown mental breakdown/panic attack, literally these kids have absolutely NO respect for anyone, that’s clear as day

[@AshaSara]

Literally I was way more afraid about getting in trouble with parents than with teachers

[@jackjack7871]

Same bro, I was so worried at my PTM even tho I was a good student

[@exodiatheforbiddenone186]

@@Vexlich I'd fucking have a heart attack and beg, plead and cry and be teachers lil angel to change their mind. How can they not fear the reprecussions?

[@flawlesseleven]

I wanted to mention that lower literacy and engagement with the arts is scary because it makes people more susceptible to authoritarianism. If you can’t critically think about media or understand the history of our country well - then you more easily accept propaganda and laws that limit freedoms.

[@peiithos]

this exactly and its terrifying. bone chillingly terrifying

[@dinkyboss]

I feel like I’m constantly talking about this. It’s not even just the kids, most adults I run into see zero issues with the falling literacy rates. It’s insane

[@Lacewise]

@@dinkybossI’ve seen a lot of people defend it as “yeah, of course they’re illiterate and violent, they’re children.” Which is terrifying. I am doing active research into several subjects including the defunding of education and it’s just depressing how much less I know than someone my age thirty years ago.

[@CordeliaWagner1999]

Arts? Like lefties who caused the social descay?

[@CordeliaWagner1999]

It's the Woke Ideology that is the biggest problem. You don't need Art to think critical. Especially not when most Art is wortless modern trash.

[@katiephillips8543]

I thought that I was going to be a teacher for the rest of my life. Then a student strangled and nearly killed me. My spine was broken, and my spinal cord was damaged. I got spinal surgery, but I still need a wheelchair, and I will never be able to work again. Teaching should not be such a dangerous profession.

[@exodiatheforbiddenone186]

@@katiephillips8543 I hope that pos rots in jail for what they did to you. It is absolutely inexcusable for a student to put their hands on a teacher like that

[@Sissybethstd]

OMG!! That is freaking heartbreaking. I bet you were an amazing teacher too. I hope that you will or have found some type of peace, a new dream. You deserve it ❤

[@toohauteforyou]

Because teachers can get put in jail for defending themselves and the kids know that so they think they have free reign to do whatever they want and the law supports that. That kid should be in jail for attempted murder.

[@thexteam1231]

@@toohauteforyou Simply touching a student can get you fired. My ex almost got fired for putting a hand gently on a girl trying to calm her down. She freaked out and her mom wanted to sue my wife. Welcome to modern teaching.

[@happygolucky9004]

I'm so sorry that was done to you. I can't imagine the trauma. Did the school expel the student? Did the student go to jail?

[@opalviking]

And the saddest part about these teachers quitting bc of student behavior is that the kids think it’s a flex to piss off their teacher to the point of quitting. They think it’s funny. We’re doomed, yall

[@coolchameleon21]

and these lunatics will be adults soon…that is terrifying! they’re going to be super unhinged and dangerous

[@domerino-ft6sd]

to be fair as a kid even I thought it was a flex if it was an asshole teacher like recess from the 90s getting finster fired if they could

[@cherrytea_afterdark]

My English teacher literally did nothing wrong and yet either quit or got fired after one year of teaching for my school. Kids talked in front of me about bullying her, the gossip about her was so bad they were banned from talking about her in one class and made fake names so they could continue. I loved her as a teacher, but I can see why she left.

[@venusluv-i1v]

I had a great teacher but the students were horrible to him. He almost quit and was gone for a month. The students actually asked for him back. I and a few of the students that liked him spoke up for him and mentioned how horrible he kids were to him. When he did come back the class bought him a meal for lunch and even applauded his return. He was shocked. But this was in the mid 2000s. I started working in the 2010s in a school and Gen Z was a disaster. It has only gotten worse now with Alpha. We need a cultural shift.

[@TheLimeCrimes]

@@domerino-ft6sd The issue is every kid thinks they're you, but none of them comprehend that they could, in fact, be the asshole in some situations.

[@Katamari_Queen]

To me, gentle parenting means not whooping your children and physically harming them. It shouldn't mean no consequences. But parents need to understand that important distinction.

[@randomfan4966]

Yeah true! Like maybe tell them what they did wrong and why it’s bad then tell them you’re taking their phone or toy or something you know?

[@saminehgillmore4934]

I think it's a function of what consequences you create. If my child throws a toy that he can't throw, well sorry sucks that toy is gone for a while. That's the consequence of your action. I think it's linking consequences that are natural to the behavior, i.e. throwing toys = done with that toy for the night instead of throwing toys = no TV for a week. Clearly there is nuance here, but the people who don't tell their child no are setting them up for failure.

[@Reznic007]

Another KZbinr I watch talked about the whole gentle parenting thing and how, apparently, most parents who *think* they’re gentle parenting are actually permissive parenting. Both styles include not hitting children but that’s about where the similarities end. I like to think I gentle parent because I really do not let my kids act up, especially in public. There’s consequences, they just don’t involve assault.

[@bropoke6799]

Thats what gentle parenting is. Most people just hear "gentle" and assume it means "no consequences". There are still punishments, they just dont involve physically or verbally abusing children

[@cloudyskyz2237]

Gentle parenting literally means disciplining your child in a gentle manner. So, instead of hitting them, you talk to them gently and ask why they’re doing whatever they’re doing, and you explain why it’s wrong. That’s it.

[@DAppel]

Just wanna say; punishment free does not mean consequence free. Holding the child accountable is the whole point of gentle parenting

[@Mmax98406]

Exactly, my mom's dad was a cop, and one time when she was caught stealing, he fake arrested her and had his cop buddies play along with it talking about how disappointed they were in her. You don't have to beat a kid blue to get them to act right

[@edgysnarfbrownie5778]

Exclusively non violent parenting pisses me off. Some kids just don’t respond to non violent punishment. Its not like a stinging pain for 5 minutes is going to make your kid a serial killer like some of these delusional parents think.

[@hardopinions]

There are TWO consequences in life -- sticks and carrots. Your life is always stuck between these two. Teaching your kids there is no "sticks" in the world will cause some mental breakdown down the line. For the record, punishment has nothing to do with violence. But no punishments exactly implies no accountability, unless of course we have a problem here with definition of "punishment"? (eg. standing in corner *is* a punishment. denial of rewards *is* a punishment, etc.)

[@lefunnyN1]

all you need to do is remove their screen time access, no need for violence just stand strong by the rules in your own home

[@SamiMichelle]

⁠@@edgysnarfbrownie5778did you just say that you believe parents should VIOLENTLY PUNISH LITERAL CHILDREN…?!?! That’s not punishment. That’s abuse. Please don’t have kids

[@tigersoni]

it’s not the gentle parenting its neglectful parenting, ipad parenting and them not learning boundaries

[@iamnemoo]

This is why I roll my eyes at my people who brag about how rewarding and blessed is it to be a parent meanwhile their toddler's eyes are focused on their ipad. At restaurants, strollers, wobbling behind mom - kid is holding an ipad, phone, or some tech. Then when their kid goes to school, the kid is intolerable or difficult to deal with. Teachers can't do anything because parents will always side with their kid and don't care. Kids now are so far behind in education compared to other generations, teachers know this is a dark reality that American public isn't ready for. Parents aren't teaching their kids, not helping their kids, not even disciplining their kids, and seems like they dont even care.

[@cassandrathomas6015]

Drives me crazy when I'm riding the bus to and from work and just see mums putting phones and tablets in front of their kids and then ignoring them. When I rode the bus with my mum she talked to me, she taught me about the world outside the window, it was quality time together.

[@TechnoSpice]

I mean if someone can't seem to do the gentle parenting right, your kid is giong to have fewer overall behavioral issues with the old fashioned beat their @$$ method than if you do absolutely nothing at all. Abuse is never preferred but if you have to choose the lesser of two abuses, it's starting to look like neglect ends up being worse for the kid and society in the long run over whoopins.

[@KawaiiNeko84]

@@TechnoSpiceIf gentle parenting is not being done right then that is not gentle parenting it is permissive parenting. Gentle parenting has discipline, we’re just not smacking our children to get it done.

[@user-vx3wc8yc9v]

@@TechnoSpice "with the old fashioned beat their @$$ method than if you do absolutely nothing at all." That is proven to not work and literally mess up kids lol

[@tired690]

I'm not a teacher but I work in a retail store that primarily targets an age group that tends to have children. And the amount of kids who yell and scream whenever their phone or tablet is taken from them, they've thrown stuff either to their parents or me and my coworkers, etc. It's concerning how so many of gen alphas parents openly neglect them and how gen alpha responds to it.

[@tinysey]

Yeah it seems like parents don't have much control with them either

[@doodlejone6546]

Almost every toddler at the grocery store I work at is staring at their phone, it’s crazy.

[@northblade.]

I'm a cashier and damn the amount of kids streaming about not getting what they want is insane 😭 I feel bad these kids have terrible parents

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

I work retail too and I’m not surprised at their behavior I mean look at their parents🥴🥴 the amount times I’ve seen these adults throw tantrums over something so small is concerning. I’ve had customers get mad at me because their card wasn’t working. I’ve had these adults yell at me all because the item wasn’t on clearance

[@tired690]

@@Jessica.Shawnte yes it's quite saddening how immature so many people are nowadays 😭, it's like the adults that like to call themselves adult children decided to truly never grow up.

[@maggieb902]

I had a 7yr old girl punch my pregnant stomach when I was 6months along and she barely got reprimanded. My teacher assistant was the one that made execs take notice. I ended up having to be monitored in hospital for multiple weeks before delivering a month early

[@DanaScully1997]

That little b*tch is a killer in the making, how dare she try to kill your baby. Did you press charges against her.

[@DanaScully1997]

Forget about the school doing anything get the police involved. 😢

[@DownBadForLucifer]

I hope your baby is okay ❤

[@therealgrimreaper68]

When I was in school, disrespecting teachers was unimaginable. Even the worst behaved kids would never do such things to a teacher.

[@okaycola2]

Only the special ed kids ever acted up like that

[@therealgrimreaper68]

@@okaycola2 in my school even they wouldn’t do such things

[@Ieatbatteries1]

⁠@@okaycola2yeah. I knew a couple people in the ‘special ed’ class (god do I hate that term as a disabled person), and they would sometimes have meltdowns. One even tried to whip his penis out when he couldn’t play with his ball (I can’t blame him though, he didn’t function well and probably needed more help than he was getting). I think the huge problem that causes that is that many SPED kids (or at least nowadays, not talking about the past) are iPad kids. Before the iPad was invented, they most likely were not getting the help they needed, which caused frequent meltdowns. It breaks my heart, to be honest. One of my friends are in special Ed, and I’ve seen the nightmare that is the other kids. I could never be a teacher there.

[@squidsona8509]

​@@okaycola2 im special ed and i was always well behaved to teachers. I think some kids are just assholes

[@Sp0rkWafflez]

the "worst" would be a kid maybe talking back to a teacher or making a smart ass remark and it would only be once and then they were sent to the office or detention and no one else dared to even try that again. The thought of physically harming a teacher was completely out of everyone's minds. No one would have dared to try any of this stuff when I was in school. It's shocking.

[@jennmartin6125]

Imagine being a kid who wants to learn, but you have to deal with all the disruptions and see violence daily.

[@harperlikeshellokitty]

I’m that kid but instead everyone keeps talking

[@audreymccurley8562]

I just graduated and it wasn't super bad for me, but my sister complains about that happening to her all the time, and its the same school. She's mostly in honors classes (and the school is pretty strict, it doesn't have an option to get a D, less than a 70 is failing) but in all of her regular classes no one will shut up and she's seen people have screaming matches with the teachers

[@Akg42093]

I’m scared for my daughter when she goes to school because of this. I don’t want her exposed to that 😭

[@burningbirdgirl]

In my bothers school the classes already have about 35 students each and they started placing “problem” kids in normal classes (kids w behavioural difficulties, asd etc) for about a year and a half a girl who had violent outbursts on the daily screamed racists things at any poc students was tolerated. My mum was publicly shamed for suggesting the girl be moved? More horrible she was one of the only parents who cared enough to perceive this

[@ActionMan153]

I'm that kid, but I cannot help myself, who keeps talking.

[@cloudyskyz2237]

I’ve also noticed with the “equality” movement (at least in the schools in my area), they’re getting rid of sped classes and forcing all of them into one class. That’s not equality. That’s making classrooms impossibly hard to teach in.

[@tarkusdotcom]

The sad part is, in some cases it’s the parents who take their kids out of specialized learning and demand that they be placed in traditional classrooms. I’ve seen parents do the schoolwork for their child who is unable to work within a traditional curriculum, simply because they “don’t want their kid to not achieve the same things as other kids” despite their child desperately needed an alternative in order to succeed. They don’t care about their child’s success in school, only what they can tell other adults their child is “achieving” despite their disabilities.

[@octoratta]

thats the problem with "equality", when we should be pushing for "equity". Giving everyone equal oppurtunities to learn. God knows I struggled in a normal classroom and I would've been fine if I just had extra help (I'm on the autism spectrum). Getting rid of special education programs doesn't help these students, it just makes everything much harder not just for them but for staff as well. I think we should be funding for better sped programs since even ones that are around just aren'ttt enough.

[@Inkedalic3]

There's a kid in my school that everyone knows as he has serious anger issues or something like that and he usually isn't in school but when he is he gets physically violent and teachers (who are barely paid enough to teach, let alone that) have to restrain the kid while getting kicked and shouted at. What the school does is suspend him for a long time before letting him come back and he inevitably is violent again and gets suspended again and the cycle repeats. I don't get why the system doesn't understand that giving separate, specialised schooling to such people isn't like segregation or something. Not only might the kid actually get a chance to learn something, but the teachers and other students wouldn't be at a constant safety risk.

[@laurabutler264]

God I could tell you so much about my experience with this! Extra resource creation, having to explain differently adapted tasks four times to groups of students all working at different levels + a group outside working with a teacher’s assistant, making sure they are listening to the correct task and not the task meant for someone else. I frequently got nothing done because ensuring everyone understood their task would take up the whole lesson.

[@violetjensen3783]

And getting rid of gifted and AP and honors, in the other direction, makes them so bored they’ll act up!!!

[@AlphaDarnia]

a few years ago my teacher completely broke down, had a panic attack, and started crying in the middle of class before leaving and never coming back. I still remember the first day of school, (it was a new school for me and he was showing me around) and he was so nice, like one of the nicest teachers i’ve known. It hurt to see him basically degrade throughout the year. i’ve been called a teachers pet my entire life and, honestly, if the definition of a “teachers pet” is equal to someone who doesn’t make their teacher have a PANIC ATTACK??? then sure, i’m a teachers pet. I was literally the ONLY kid in the class that wasn’t a total jerk. and ppl will be like “ugh, public schools 😒” no. this was a private catholic school.🍎

[@ianisblue]

thats how you know its a generation problem and not just schoolboard/district you aways see people be like "ugh, public schools" but as someone who has been to both catholic and public schools, both can literally be a shit show for both teachers AND students and most of the time the admins do nothing about it in EITHER

[@phils4634]

@@ianisblue The School Board members are VERY dependent on the continuing income stream, so if anything the Private Sector will be even more "accepting" of poor behaviour, providing it doesn't result in students leaving (usually due to poor achievement levels). In the US (AND Australia), "Education Money" certainly talks.

[@maggieann-mae5189]

this happened to my 8th grade English teacher. She didn't quit, but she broke down crying in class. I'll never forget how embarrased I was by my class. I gave her a hug at the end of the day. It's horrible how many people are just okay with this stuff happening )):

[@starterjam2201]

A private catholic school?! Unbelievable!

[@ohahmystical2976]

I’ve also been called a Teacher’s pet, solely because I speak to teachers like y’know, ACTUAL BREATHING PEOPLE. It’s so strange, and they way they speak behind my back and call me racist (because they misheard me say the word Nick as that’s the name of one of my friends) then relentlessly make fun of me for nothing or ask me sexual questions, their not even slick when it comes to talking behind my back because at this point their just yelling it to the world. I’ve confided in teachers about no longer feeling safe in class but as long as their parents do nothing about it, I’m just going to need to go through my school years being bullied until they all decide to drop out in year 10

[@CrowsCauldron]

No child left behind really left all the kids behind

[@jacobhafar538]

Syndrome rly wrote that bill lmao. “When every child is left behind… no one will be” 😭😭😭

[@mckenzieh5873]

That policy doesn't seem related here since it was put in place long before gen alpha entered schools

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

It should have been called "All children left behind equally"

[@skurinski]

Thats the cause of socialist education system

[@nobumsleftbehindprteam4830]

​@mckenzieh5873 it's parents from the No Child Left Behind Act that's raising these kids. It applies.

[@ljbds5]

I just graduated high school and the absolute biggest problem is admin refusing to do anything about student conflicts. There was explicit images and videos of 7th graders floating around and not one person seemed to care.

[@edgysnarfbrownie5778]

I think your admin was a ped0ph1le. You have a moral obligation to report him to law enforcement.

[@Mychemicaldiaryy]

Yes!! And when u get in a conflict they just talk to you like ur a toddler!! It’s INFURIATING 😢

[@pizzapartytime1826]

What! When I was a preschool teacher if it was a good day we maybe had like 6 incident reports though the school. Parents who have been in the school since the kid was a baby were threatening to leave. Kids were so scared to come in. Now we got a new director who apparently does stuff. 😅

[@Archimedes-v2o]

The fact that they don’t care about literal child p*rn is messed up

[@user-fl5eq2vp8b]

I'm not a teacher, but I work at a school as the day custodian. It does start at home. Years ago, we had a kid who was SO ADDICTED TO SCREENS that he would run and grab teachers' phones. When I first met him, the counselor was there and warned me that he would do that. I looked this kid in the eyes and said, "My phone is in my butt pocket. If someone tried getting my phone, they are touching my butt, and I will defend myself from being touched in inappropriate places." And the kid never took my phone or tried. No one had ever point blank told him no. It would always be something like 'oh, (name), we dont do that, it makes others sad!' People need to lay down hard boundaries and stick to them. Some admin refuses and that is what causes the issues. Not all the time, but that is my experience.

[@abbieminer8437]

YES i love it!! im a preschool teacher and firm and consistent boundaries are SO important. children dont understand being yelled at, but they also wont learn if theyre coddled. a boundary and an explanation the child can understand is exactly how i handle things and it transformed my classroom. imagine if it was applied at home too, the kids would be on such a good track!!! i appreciate the work you do, custodians make teaching possible (kids make way too much mess for one person to handle lol)

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

This right here! You put the fear of god in them kids on day one and they learn real quick. And then we can all settle down and learn. But that tech addiction these days is real. These kids spend zero time not staring into a screen. The ones who have parents that know better are a million times more prepared than those that don’t.

[@soraya131]

this is so beautifully spoken and you handled it the right way!! being firm and collected is such an essential for children and they will totally respect you! major props to you!

[@comicsans3537]

And not everyone runs based off empathy- some kids need to hear "no, that is NOT ok. You are harming me, that is not allowed," because their braijs function better hearing logic as opposed to why it hurts someone's feelings. I'm hyper empathetic, seeing someone hurt by my actions would make me cry as a kid. But not all kids are that way, you have to use what works best for the kid and set a firm boundary in both ways. Ofc it's hard to do when you also struggle to teach due to lack of funding....

[@LucianSorelsGardenOfAzaleas]

I hate when people baby kids like that, that has scientifically shown that can affect some kids, you shouldn't baby kids after they become a little older than 6 months it can mentally affect some stuff. children who are 5+ are absolutely able to understand no by that point, and they need to be told a firm no if they are crossing boundaries or doing something dangerous.

[@leilayay]

a 5th grader just yelled ''gyatt'' at me when i was walking up the stairs i am done

[@RatWasntHere]

EW WTF

[@selxeverx]

Ew

[@jayIG]

Why

[@beastcarleeto707]

That's crazy I can acc imagine it happening

[@opossokie]

HAHA wtf

[@Mochiiiee]

Student here, I had to leave mainstream schooling because it was literally impossible to learn. I felt horrible for the poor teachers. It’s like the students couldn’t comprehend that the teachers were also human beings. They couldn’t comprehend that i was a human being. Hate to be that person, but kids these days suck.

[@edgysnarfbrownie5778]

I could barely learn in school and Im gen Z. The other kids were so distractive and destructive that i literally learned more from 5 minutes of reading every textbook individually at home than the whole school day. It was just a daily routine of migraine headaches from constant noise. Not to mention the constant racism I experienced going to a mostly black school. Its a terrible learning environment. Im definitely homeschooling if i ever have kids.

[@cherryivana1129]

@@edgysnarfbrownie5778 Omg same especially in a civics social studies class when I tried to learn things such as the power of government, checks abs balances, and separation of powers. Other kids would be sooooo disruptive for no reason!!!!!

[@Archimedes-v2o]

@@edgysnarfbrownie5778yup it’s always been hard for me to focus in my classes, even now as a senior

[@bopyloo]

substitute teacher here. i’ve had 3rd graders moan sexually during math class and 2nd graders sent to the office for touching other students ~there~. guess who’s interviewing for other jobs rn 👋

[@bopyloo]

and thank you for speaking about the lack of admin support. school districts have kneecapped the teachers’ ability to discipline; the teachers can’t deliver consequences for bad behavior without risking their jobs, and the parents refuse to actually raise their children, so they simply don’t get taught how to be functional human beings.

[@dbzcupcake]

Omg one school i worked at someone in admin said "Oh I think it might be developmental" when I was trying to ask for help 🫥😬🙃

[@okaycola2]

That is something to tell cps

[@DefinitelyNotAFerret]

So the Brandon rogers skit saying “the 4th graders are inside each other” have more realness than I thought

[@Petalpool]

@@dbzcupcake Wth? “Developmental” is not a word I would use

[@qmiix]

My mom is a teacher at a university in Sweden. She's been telling me for YEARS about how they constantly have to lower the bar for passing their students because otherwise, almost none of them would make it to the next year. She told me once about a student fresh out of the swedish equivalent of high school/collage that didn't understand fractions and how to move a variable from one side of an equation to the other. My mom is a math and physics teacher, and someone who didn't understand fractions was able to make it to her class because of the lowered the bar for passing students so much.

[@Volundur9567]

Oh, gods no. It's spreading. I never thought Scandinavian countries would be infected by our stupidity. I sincerely apologize.

[@PurpleBatProjects]

And then people turn around and say “schools are just so EVIL and AUTHORITARIAN and how dare you tell children what to do?? Do you think you know better than them??” Or people in their 20s talk about how horrible school is and I’m like… what are you even talking about. And all the bullying may have been somewhat lessened by, idk, supervision and or consequences but nooo. Edit: if anyone is curious, you can read "Dumbing Down: The Crisis of Quality and Equity in a Once-Great School System -- and How to Reverse the Trend" which is open access, particularly ch 6 is interesting, this has been going on for a very long time.

[@ib_enjoyer11037]

I live in central/eastern Europe, and my father also works at an university, except he teaches history/archeology. he keeps telling me the SAME story about how they have to keep lowering the standards or else no one would pass (barely anyone does anyway). he tells me all about how bachelor papers are all worse than the papers i write for highschool, and how no one even cares about the studies and just wants the degree (which im not surprised about honestly). this is absolutely crazy

[@Pollicina_db]

As someone who gets mostly A’s in my university it sometimes makes me wonder if I even deserved it because of the need of “lowering standards”. I’m not sure that anyone will take me seriously in the future because of it.

[@CrowsCauldron]

If covid taught me anything, it's that most people don't WANT to be around their kids. People sent their kids back to school while the pandemic was still ongoing because they were tired of dealing with them. I saw the social media posts from the parents.

[@DragonsInNYC]

When i was teaching kindergarten a couple years ago one of my students broke my laptop and the mothers only response was "well did you tell her to stop?" She never paid for it

[@thatonebraziliancity822]

I grew up in an abusive home and yet never did I think it was right to hurt others, whether mentally or physically. There's something seriously wrong with their parenting if these kids are all out ATTACKING teachers on a weekly basis.

[@mckenzieh5873]

What do you think is causing such different outcomes between your in school behavior vs. what's being seen among abused kids who act out in schools today?

[@r1hb33]

@@mckenzieh5873extreme social and emotional deregulation. i’m not one to say video games and media outwardly cause violence, but graphic content have become these children’s parental guidance. they can’t find the disconnect between real life and media. and who would expect them to, when that’s all they know. technology is being used as a coping skill. i used to be fussy in places like restaurants, but my parents would talk to me to keep me entertained and emotionally regulated. screen time has replaced human connection for these kiddos. we can all relate to getting sucked into technology, but it’s now all these kids know.

[@thatonebraziliancity822]

@@mckenzieh5873 I’m not an expert, so I’m not sure, but I have a few ideas. Even if my mother was abusive, she was still a mother, she provided for me physically, she was supportive of my interests and taught me to be curious, she taught me many valuable lessons even if she was irrational at times. She really wanted me, she wanted to be a mother for decades, and tried many many times and spent thousands to have me, so I was definitely planned. She went out of her way to spend time with me, to go out, explore, we would do activities together frequently so we actually built a relationship outside of just being mother and daughter by blood. I think a lot of the difference comes from the connection to the parent, how much they interact with you, how and why they do it, what they’re teaching you or lack there of, how the parent views the child, etc.

[@silververnallbells191]

@@mckenzieh5873 Lack of sp@nking. Gentle parenting will only work for a very few, but is mostly a failed practice.

[@alyssaharriman8446]

@@silververnallbells191spanking didn’t work on me. What did is my parents would take away my toys and books(I didn’t get a phone until 10 and even then I couldn’t do much besides listen to music, text or call). I would of course cry and scream, but that rarely ever worked. Over time I noticed that if I was polite and used my manners I would get what I want even if not right away. Like maybe I wanted a dollhouse and would always ask for it. I would then get it for Christmas or my birthday.

[@madelinesingh1629]

A lot of similarities in the plight of teachers exist in the plight of nurses right now, too. So much abuse, violence, unreasonable and dangerous workloads and paid a pittance for what the work is. So many nurses are leaving because it’s not worth it.

[@tinysey]

@@madelinesingh1629 that so concerning because nurses are sooo necessary 😕

[@MrBaskins2010]

during covid, both professions were told by millions of americans to suck it up and suffer. sure lots of people took the lockdown period to grow and change for the better but a greater number of people spiraled and doubled down on being dirtbags

[@GirlAndStarlighters]

Nurse here- so many nurses are leaving bedside. It’s usually newer nurses

[@ZhangJingyi-j10]

Social media made gen z way to comfortable with disrespecting, last year my class made 4 teachers cry and 2 quit and one got fired by the principal because she couldn’t teach the class, I also used to be one of those rude disruptive kids I cursed at teachers and talked back but I was never physical, I realized all the stuff I did wrong after I got into homeschool

[@miahntepp9997]

People have to work 2-3 jobs just to live, they have no idea what's going on with their children. This makes me think of interview's of parents of incarcerated kids who have committed mass shootings. Parents always say "I had NO IDEA," "I had NO CLUE," until people are able to go home and give their families attention, this will get worse.

[@PlantyGeri]

I’m glad you brought this up, with how little the US gov invests in childcare, the low wages, inflation, you’re right some parents are often not able to be at home or be as present because they’re worked to the bone. This issue is so complex, it’s crazy where we’ve gotten

[@t_ylr]

That's so true. I might be 1/2 remembering but I think there was some study that said the more that toddlers talk to their parents or even just passively listen to older ppl talk the better their comprehension skills and grades are when they're in school. So everybody having a 2nd job and a side hustle is probably affecting the kids.

[@Turt13princess]

YESSSSSSSS exactly my thoughts! Kids are literally held captive for HOURS and treated like actual prisoners the parallells between jail and school are insane and we are now surprised when theyre all snapping and can't take it. How can you be calm and at peace when you get barely any sleep, barely any time to yourself, and you're literally held in a chair and not allowed to eat I don't know why people are surprised at this point but of course they're going to blame phones and the generation instead of the insanely abusive school system that never improves... school could be such a great happy experience kids love learning, kids inherantly want to do good but the school system sets them up as guilty captives with no rights it is INHUMANE

[@Turt13princess]

when I am burntout extremely tired and hungry I am NOT myself, and take into consideration underdiagnosed or misdiagnosed neurodivergence that is not being acknowledged or accomodated.. schools are not properly staffed to be able to actually handle the needs of these kids, and the amount adults have to work, the needs are not even being met at home, so none of this should come as a surprise

[@GLee-dt8yb]

@@Turt13princess… I appreciate this perspective so much! As a parent to a neurodivergent kiddo who can easily be seen as the “bad”/misbehaving student- it’s nice to have some acknowledgement that schools/teachers don’t always have the time or resources to work with these students. I do my due diligence & have my son in occupational & behavioral therapy to help with skill building and emotional regulation etc. My son has gotten aggressive with a long term sub he had 2 years ago & I will never defend any type of aggression or getting physical. But I recognize that most ppl don’t know how to help calm down my kiddo/emotionally regulate which can make these outburst 1,000 worse

[@homosexualhapinings9721]

High school student here, I can confirm that this same behavior goes on in high school as well. My class, and the surrounding ones, are unruly and out of control. We've lost so many sweet and passionate teachers because of them. It's just sad.

[@izzybennet.t]

I'm not sure why people are acting like this issue is exclusive to gen alpha/late gen z. I'm middle gen z and my entire schooling experience, even in college, can be summed up with the issues everyone is talking about gen alpha having. Hell, I was addicted to my phone and clocked out in middle school, I just needed straight As and a record of good behavior so my parents' abuse wouldn't get worse, I was actively apart of the same problem. It's been like this since I started elementary school in 2009-2010, and even pre-k to an extent from what I can remember.

[@jennamallow]

@@izzybennet.t I think you may be missing the link of sadly common unruly behavior of some students in classrooms vs the overwhelmingly state of many unruly students and the unruliness having worsened in recent years

[@izzybennet.t]

@@jennamallow correct me if I'm wrong, but this issue applies to high schoolers and late middle schoolers, so gen z who border alpha and middle gen z? I assure you I am not missing anything, I'm explaining why it's wrong that we look at this problem like it's a new issue and not the progressive degradation of parenting and the school systems that have been happening for many years at this point.

[@Chaos_Incarnat.e]

Absolutely concerning. It's honestly just sad. Even the kids in higher-level classes sometimes just refuse to do any work, even in electives. I'm the video editor for TV production at my school, and my teacher has talked about the constant struggle to just get kids off their phones and motivated. And this is probably the person who cares about his subject the most in the school. If it's like this for classes that... don't require any effort outside of class, I can't imagine what it's like for classes that do require that amount of passion.

[@xCoatlicuex]

​@@izzybennet.tWhile this point has been talked about For almost a decade people used to call names to anyone trying to adress the topic, it's Now that issues are out of hand that people are finally getting the point.

[@Mystic_Paths]

Constant exposure to screens and violent content in media may desensitize children to aggression and conflict, affecting their behavior in real-life situations.

[@Cjeejc7]

You brought up an excellent point regarding kids being desensitized to violence. These kids are introduced to this type of content at an early age and who knows how many hours they spend on their tablets and phones watching things like this. Then they see others on social media recording their disrespectful behavior and then it becomes the new trend.

[@wolftexgaming4386]

I don't think this is it. Children are capable of understanding what is on a screen isnt real as young as two. They're way more likely to emulate their parents then media that they may or may not have access too.

[@wuzittooya]

@@wolftexgaming4386 Where is your source for this?

[@User-pw3pu]

Yeah, except it would have been a problem 10-20 years ago and it wasn't. I grew up on South Park, I also got the belt, I acted right

[@XephreWolf]

​@@User-pw3puSouth Park is so incredibly tame compared to internet bullshit lmao

[@rileylauren04]

as a psych minor, one of the biggest focus in my classes is learning. kids NEED consequences to learn. parents can give their kids consequences for their actions without being harmful. and its also explaining to kids what they did wrong as well. if a kid sees a parent will follow through with punishment and have been taught and explained what appropriate and inappropriate behavior is young, theyre less likely to be horribly behaved because they KNOW that their will be a consequence

[@GLee-dt8yb]

Also - lack of “punishment” does not mean zero discipline. I’m 💯💯a gentle parenter. Kids all need boundaries/discipline/consequences in order to thrive.I hate that gentle parenting gets such as bad rap, but it makes sense!

[@starchannel123]

@@GLee-dt8ybIf it weren’t weak parenting, you would have no need to call it gentle. Anyways, society prefers a kid that’s a little broken than a kid will too much confidence. Humans are resilient and need hardship to become true empathetic individuals. People who feel safe all the time grow up to tell those who had it harder to get over themselves and work harder.

[@rileylauren04]

@@GLee-dt8yb completely get that! in my classes we use the term punishment when learning about conditioning/ behavior so its the term i used here but the idea is the same. an example from one of my classes: if a child throws their tablet for, and the parent explains why thats a wrong thing to do and take it away, it would be considered negative punishment since its a consequence of an action where something is removed. so pretty much the same thing just like a random terminology fact!

[@dinkyboss]

Exactly! My mom never hit me but she would withhold and allowance or take away our videogames if we misbehaved. It wasn’t harmful at all and I was taught I couldn’t just do what I wanted without consequences.

[@Kkubey]

Not to forget that what you don't learn in childhood and as a teenager, you won't just magically know as an adult.

[@sadkibby]

Former teacher here - while not every child I’ve worked with has done this, there is definitely WAY more inappropriate and vicious behavior being learned / tolerated / underreported to & from children of all ages, even (for my personal experience) as young as TWO YEARS OLD. 2!!!!! 2 years old!!!! I had a 2 year PINCH TWIST AND BITE me! Because he was already slapping a classmate who was NAPPING & we went to move him to a calm space we had set up in the room. His parents do not care. They told us “he doesn’t seem to do that at home!” And completely brushed it off despite now multiple parents and my fellow teachers complaining and reporting. So sad dude. That is LEARNED behavior. Not to mention a kindergartener calling me a slur and stabbing me with a pencil in my previous school system, and a 13 year old throwing a legitimate temper tantrum because he didn’t want to put his phone away. I wish I was joking. This is primarily the adult’s around us causing this. Learned behavior and lack of love. Complacency no boundaries and enabling. That’s what’s causing these babies to grow up so viciously and unhealthy. Just rips my heart out. 😞❤

[@Thebeezzkneezz.]

That's learned behavior but that also means he probably feels safe to act out at school, Most likley arnt allowed to at home, Me and my sister would act out at our moms house but acted like "little soilder children" with our dad My grandmother would always say that to us It is sad, they basically are masking at home 100% of the time 😢

[@peachbubble8652]

These kids don’t know how to regulate their emotions and problem solve 😢

[@dinkyboss]

@@Thebeezzkneezz.that’s not necessarily true. Most of these “parents” have a “nobody can tell me ish” attitude that their kids pick up on and know that their parents will not step up if they misbehave. These kids know there will not be consequences. I just saw a kid cussing up a storm in the deli and the mom was yelling “mind your business” at anyone who looked their way 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@OverbossZero]

"He doesn't do this at home..." Ma'am, I'll bet 10 dollars it's because you give him a tablet or phone instead of making him nap for an hour. That or you just "can't say 'no' to THAT FACE"...

[@kriskross6934]

I had a preschooler tell me on my first day over and over “I’m gonna have my dad shoot you dead” while his friend went and sat on the floor and pissed herself. I kept trying to get help on the radio but my boss and none of the other teachers came. Oh and my bosses response “he just says that” and reprimanded me for trying to talk to the parents about it.

[@DangerNoodle68]

I’m currently in school, and I feel so lucky to have parents that teach me basic respect and boundaries. I’ve seen students cuss teachers out, walk out of class, throw chairs at teachers, and *put the entire school on hold by hiding from the staff in the hallways.* It’s absurd. There seems to be three different things going on. Many of these students brag about being grounded and punished at home. They simply *don’t care.* Another section of these students have parents who straight up deny the fact their kids are *horrible* to their teachers. And the last section are the ones who were never told no; the kind that’s most talked about in the video. It’s insane.

[@aronsurakh1747]

I'm very glad you see the value of respect and boundaries, honestly those things are what make life work. Hope you remain on that path

[@ThatInsaneGamer-hp4gh]

Bruh I am on the edge of gen alpha and gen z and I would never do that

[@ThatInsaneGamer-hp4gh]

Not even in the autistic kid in my school would do that that kid definitely was never told no

[@tvbra1nr0t]

Honestly most people should not be having children and this is such hard proof

[@mikejett2733]

Yhea but klanservitives want that child labor though

[@jingbot1071]

@@41Chewbacca41 Get a real account

[@DangerNoodle68]

@@41Chewbacca41 tf are you talking about? feminism and free love doesn’t mean shitty children

[@XephreWolf]

People take not having children/a family as some kind of personal moral failing and it's so destructive. Like, if you know you're incapable of taking care of children, just don't have them. There's no shame if you can't. In fact, the fact that you're willing to admit to personal limitations and choose not to have one is a great sign of maturity.

[@joursdeTJ]

Not a teacher but have been a camp counsellor for the past three years for primarily preschoolers (4-5 yrs). This was the WORST summer I’ve worked. You have 5 year olds choking their peers; throwing basketballs at them because they felt like it; kicking and injuring staff; the works. And the parents are always like “it’s because their COVID babies” a lot of us will not be returning next year

[@fariahcriss5696]

I mean... It is because they're Covid babies, at least partially. That doesn't make it better though. It's not just about recognizing the trauma and disruption to their development, you have to actually deal with the trauma these kids have experienced too. The problem is that these kids are coping with that trauma by doomscrolling/dopamine seeking on the internet instead of getting the supportive care they need from their parents and outside professionals when needed. And we all know the internet isn't great at raising kids. Most parents having to work multiple jobs or long hours just to make ends meet in this economy isn't helping anything either, not to mention that some parents just don't care

[@winter-wb7cf]

I was also a camp counselor this summer! I’m absolutely getting a different job. Same issues at my camp. Also sexual things like moaning/humping/comments from like 7 year olds???? So disturbing.

[@elderlycatpatriot]

"Covid babies" LMAO There is no excuse for a kid to not understand at least some basic manners by the time they're four years old. NONE. Shows how out of touch with reality their parents are.

[@Robohead-z6z]

⁠@@winter-wb7cf How does a 7 year olds know those things? I didn’t know about them until I was like teen/20s.

[@lwell8016]

@@Robohead-z6zthe internet my friend! Gen alpha is raised by the internet! Give a child with no emotional maturity content that most adults consider inappropriate and you have little sociopaths! They are surrounded by violence online and are taught to only care about themselves thanks to people like influencers. How much of online memes and content surrounds violence or sexual/gross behavior. Teens consider it edgy and funny, hopefully they are mature enough to only consider it as a joke and not implementable in real life. Kids see those things, think they’re funny, and implement them into their own lives with zero repercussions. They don’t know better, no one has taught them to. Their parents both work, they probably spend most of their time at a daycare or with an iPad. Love it

[@amararangwala3149]

my mom, the most wonderful seventh grade teacher was threatened with violence by a student literally yesterday! would do anything to support her and any other teachers like her just trying to do their job and support kids that they care about

[@sanjanat1085]

We're seeing the effects of neglect and incompetence masked as gentle parenting. I have always been of the opinion that educators, healthcare workers and blue collar workers need to be better treated and even prioritised on some level since society depends on them so heavily. This is just sad.

[@jacquelinealbin7712]

In theory, gentle parenting is amazing. But too many people who claim to take a gentle parenting approach do it poorly and end up just being permissive and creating entitled kids who don't understand the word "no" because actually doing gentle parenting well is a lot of hard work and just letting the kid have things so they stop yelling is a lot easier

[@sanjanat1085]

@@jacquelinealbin7712 Hence why I said it's neglect and incompetence masked as gentle parenting. Never said anything against the concept of gentle parenting!

[@PapaSmurf11182nd]

@@sanjanat1085Inwas going to ask a clarifying question to make sure I understood that you weren’t attacking gentle parenting. Thanks for the clarity

[@Don.M.]

The kids are raised by a generation that rightly refuses corporal punishment, but in response, has shifted towards far too permissive parenting instead. It will be like this until people find a discipline style closer down the middle.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

I really hate when gentle parenting gets drug through the mud. That’s how I’ve raised my kids and they are really some of the best kids ever.

[@VenusLM]

I have a 17yo who came to us through foster care. She was behind from the day we got her and had been failing classes since they started giving out grades in 3rd grade. And they just kept passing her on. She has failed almost all of her high school classes but they give them credit recovery which is online and she can cheat her way through. We tried to address it and the school basically blew us off and said it didn't matter as long as she passed the class. So we've given up on catching her up and are just focusing on graduation and independent living skills. The schools and her bio mom failed her. She's not dumb, but at this point, she is convinced that she can't learn.

[@cheshirenevande4701]

Yup. School funding is tied into graduation and passing. Teachers have to pass kids or they get fired by admin. It's insane.

[@Iris70390]

@@iluvcoffe252I’m not an expert but I’d argue a part of that is having your accomplishments go uncelebrated and your faults scrutinized heavily. As a child I couldn’t do math for the life of me. My brain just couldn’t comprehend the numbers and for years all I heard was that I was stupid, mostly from my siblings and parental figures and it absolutely destroyed my confidence in my self and my ability to learn, I’ve since got math down and made kinder friends whom support me but I still struggle to do new things and wouldn’t be able to live on my own(but it’s possible someday so long as we never give up!)

[@2CheekyRabbits]

@@iluvcoffe252It comes from buying into and believing lies you’ve been told about yourself. I’m also 252, btw.

[@tiannabobo1170]

@@iluvcoffe252 you typed that message out so you know how to read and write. There’s nothing wrong with your ability to learn.

[@candicefrost4561]

It sounds like they are giving the passing grade to shut up parents who don’t want to deal with why their kid might be failing but that won’t help the kid, who knows she is having trouble learning and may be scared about what that means for her future. Teaching a struggling kid takes time and energy, and the resources are often not available for that.

[@ameliaroseillustrations]

🍎 It’s scary to think that if these violent children aren’t disciplined, they’re basically going to grow up into violent adults, and will probably be doing even worse things than throwing staplers. I can’t stand when parents just don’t care about their children’s behaviours and are so quick to defend. Recently, my mum (nicely) asked the neighbours kids if they would quiet down, because they were being really loud and damaging our fence, and their parents came harassing her and threatening her not to tell her “angels” what to do. WTH sort of example is that to their children?

[@Kossa-Odessa]

Gentle parenting should be free of punishment but not free of consequences and discipline. That’s how I in my country learned about what gentle parenting is.

[@hcf4kd1992]

True. Gentle and permissive are not the same.

[@Auurify]

Gentle parenting is just parenting. It didn't need rebranding. Gentle parenting is permissive parenting 9.9 out of 10 times because Millenials are too "Traumatized" to put boundaries.

[@Kate8that]

@@Auurify if you think millennials are bad look at gen z please.

[@UhrwerkKlockwerx]

@Kate8that >makes claim >cites no sources Grow up and stop playing the blame game. Idgaf what generation you are, we are supposed to be in this together. Generation wars are a disease on humanity.

[@andreaslefteri3661]

​@@Kate8that what about gen z huh? Most of us are not parents yet and we WERE raised with the knowledge our actions have consequences

[@Lovinayin]

I'm a freshman in high school and all off this is so true! Why are majority of my classmates stuttering while reading? IN 9TH GRADE! My classmates ask me the most obvious questions, today someone asked me what 2x3 is... I was in shock. They are hitting teachers with chairs, throwing them at teachers for telling them to sit in their assigned seats. I'm in their trying my best to sit there in that environment and finish my work sheet. It's usually 5 or so kids who are trying to focus and get their work done. Some are trying to pass, some are trying to keep up their good grades. But it's so hard in that environment. People don't talk about how it effects the kids who are trying to learn. They are telling teachers to shut up while they are trying to teach. My history teacher has already quit. I truly wonder how long the others will last.

[@swedishwelfaresystem]

I’m a junior, and while they’re not as bad as what you’ve witnessed, there are some kids in my classes who do some of the same stuff. Sad.

[@Sgt_Seraph]

I’m a senior and I absolutely saw this, even as a freshman ! I don’t see it as much now, as I’m doing dual enrollment with my college. but I do see it still from time to time when I’m at the high school. It’s mind boggling, watching my fellow peers just - not care about anything else other than themselves or their phones. My personal thoughts ? They’re not going to make it in college.

[@silververnallbells191]

@@Sgt_Seraph They won't even be enrolled in college.

[@comicsans3537]

Idk that I'd say it's a stutter, but ig now they're using not phonetics, but comprehensive teaching for reading- they use the "how do you think this word sounds and what does it mean around these other words?" method to teach it so kids don't know how to use it outside of specific contexts. Personally I'm pretty sure that's why online spaces have so many kids misunderstanding a tweet or blog post or insta comment as something more insidious; they legit cannot read critically if they can't read period.

[@moonlightauras1]

I'm sorry you're having to go through that at school. Unfortunately, the signs that things were headed in this direction started showing about 20 or 30 years ago as class sizes increased and funding for education decreased. Combine that with a lack of education around family planning in this country and you have a bunch of parents who probably shouldn't have had kids in the first place treating schools like free babysitting.

[@kayleighdriessen]

I feel genuinely sorry for those teachers, they and the Gen Alpha kids deserve better.

[@buffythetwinpeaks8951]

my mom is a teacher, the garbage she has to put up with is astounding. kids have punched her, kicked her, hit her, etc (she works with K-5 kids typically). the age that some of these kids are being violent is truly disturbing.

[@CallMeKit999]

i’m not trying to be a dick but as someone who works in a school that’s the job you are there to help kids even the ones with big emotions and sometimes socially inappropriate behaviors (that’s also why there’s specialist like social workers and rbts that come into schools ) some places don’t allow that tho very sadly but it does help the teachers a lot with certain “violent” behaviors that are in reality just mental health struggles a kid has or possibly an undiagnosed neurodivergency. The way y’all hate what’s different from you so much you just start to villainize kids with mental health struggles on the internet

[@buffythetwinpeaks8951]

@@CallMeKit999 not doing that at all, she's aware of the kids who need more help than others, she's just not a social worker/specialist in that area. she's very kind and good with all the kids she works with. just saying getting hit and hurt isn't really fun for her, and i feel for what she has to go through, whether or not that's what she signed up for (she knows what it's like, she's been a teacher for a long time), doesn't mean having to put up with abuse from kids is a good thing :') you can be a compassionate person for people who have a harder time than you and still be frustrated about what they put you through, it's not exclusive

[@marciscirss1195]

is that in USA or somewhere else?

[@ToxicCatt-y7c]

I had those types of classmates. We would see them outside the class room screaming and kicking the teachers while the teacher restrained them in the hallway. Even worse, our reading teacher would pull us outside to read those hardcover books. I just had my head down with my arms over my head. Even worse that I got my Autism diagnosis at that age and that was overstimulating. Teachers shouldn't have to carry baskets of noise canceling headphones just because, your kid doesn't know how to behave.

[@glibglorb1268]

Tell me you hate neurodivergent children without telling me you hate neurodivergent children

[@taneziamcadams7500]

I work in an industry related to schools and teachers and seeing the shortage in teachers at schools in real time is terrifying. Last summer, a coworker realized her 11 year old son basically missed an entire year of math because the school didn’t have a teacher and there was no long term sub placed there. So there were days where the kids were just given packets but no one could verify their work or even show them how to do it. But on the flip side, that same coworker had a daughter who then was coming out of kindergarten (so at the time, the summer before she’d go into first grade) and my coworker was ranting about how the school gave her child a “chapter book” for the kids to read over the summer. And she decided that that was too advanced for her little girl and wasn’t going to make her read it. When I didn’t respond (aka, I didn’t affirm that she was right to do that), she must have sensed my disapproval because then she added “well, she reads other things. She had lots of books in her room she’ll read.” And then every day we saw each other after she’d tell me about her 6 year old staying up all night playing video games or watching yt videos. Yeah, I trust you’re making her read alright. Her daughter is now having major behavioral issues, throwing full blown tantrums and kicking and screaming when she needs to leave the house. And my coworker is screaming at her husband to get melatonin gummies to give her so she’ll sleep instead of putting her on a consistent night routine. When I was her age, I was in bed at 8 every night (except Fridays and Saturdays where we could stay up until 9 lol), whether it was a holiday, summer, etc. We were on a schedule and there was no arguing. Millennial parents think having zero boundaries with kids is going to make us the traumatizing and toxic parents our parents were. The last time I saw my coworker, she was arguing with her husband because he gave up trying to get their daughter to leave the house for cheer practice, and he legit said “I don’t want to traumatize her.” Bruh, she is not going to be sitting in a therapists office ten or fifteen years from now saying she’s traumatized by her parents dragging her out of the house to go to cheer practice. A real therapist would explore why she felt the need to throw those tantrums as a child. These parents are so afraid of doing harm that they don’t even try. I’ve watched this same coworker undermine punishments her husband tried to give their daughter for similar behavior in the past (throwing tantrums and lying to get out of going to school) by letting her daughter have the very thing he banned her from. No routine, no discipline, no boundaries, and therefore they get no respect from their children. And then wonder why they can’t control them. My mother wasn’t perfect and def made mistakes, but the routines I had as a child allowed me to at least be a productive member of society once I became an adult. Can you imagine these kids as doctors or lawyers or even teachers themselves as adults? I sure can’t.

[@kasia2750]

The united front is the absolute minimum, what rules you teach is secondary, most important is that all adults in kid's life are on the same page. You can't create enviroment where child can or can't do specific thing depended who is watching, otherwise how will they know what is actually bad? 24h access to entertaiment is not great either. Sure we millenials spend some (a lot of) time in front of tv, but to watch your fav show/Cartoon you had to tune in on specific time, which teached a little pantience and also some time managment 😂In Polish public TV there was specific spot called dobranocka that was Huge help for parents, since it's end was widly recognized by little Poles as the call for getting to bed. People are giving kids tablets cause they think youtube or streaming is not really so diffrent, but the fact everything is on demand now and not squeduled programming is making huge diffrence. Kids have no boundries and delays of pleasure either from their parents or from the media, so how they can suddenly lit into tigthly time managed school life and not have problem with it.

[@davewriter100]

I don't know about you, but I trust I will no longer be here when this generation gets into the White House. THEN you people will no longer have a country.

[@violetgreer2443]

Forget being doctors or lawyers, it sounds like these kids won't be able to handle a simple cashier job

[@UltimaThe-mz8ih]

For the gentle parenting article, it should’ve mentioned that instead of punishments they use natural consequences. Like if you break your phone the gentle parent is not going to immediately go out and buy a new one, they’re gonna have you sit for a bit without a phone, this isn’t a punishment but a natural consequence. Gentle parenting is a great form of parenting and people are mixing it up with neglectful parenting/parents who can’t say no to their kids and want to be the “cool parent”

[@PlantyGeri]

I agree, I was a teacher for three years and my last class is what made me leave teaching completely. To this day, almost two years later, I still have nightmares about teaching. The behavior, the parents who do not discipline or guide their kids at all, and the sheer amount of disrespect makes me never want to teach ever again

[@alleebobally7177]

Teachers if these kids are putting their hands on yall or throwing WHOLE ASS DESKS and none of the adults want to discipline these kids, yall just gotta start pressing charges cause this is insane behavior.

[@aronsurakh1747]

Tbh I agree, kids want to act like that, they need to have legit consequences+ correctional rehabilitation because something is not going write in that development

[@generalcodsworth4417]

If I had a kid and they acted like that, I'd consider revoking custody and sending them off to an orphanage, because either I'm so hopelessly incompetent as a parent that I'm creating a monster or the kid was born as a monster and there's nothing I can do to make them a good person.

[@Mia_M]

I got kicked during summer school by someone who was actually removed from the school for the last month of school, and that was her final straw. They kicked her out after one week of summer school. As soon as she didn't want to do the work anymore, she started harassing the other students, trying to hit them with the broom when she wasn't riding around on it, hitting them with a yard stick, erasing everything off my board, trying to fight the other students, opening all of my band-aids and sticking them on her face, flicking kids with hand sanitizer. It was insane. It took me 4 days of requesting behavior support for them to finally say she couldn't come back.

[@blackout1734]

At this point bring back physical discipline for school- 🤧

[@Shellnbaby]

My youngest child is part of Gen Alpha. We have chosen the home education route, so she has never been to a public school. The biggest struggle we have is finding quality friendships with her peers. A lot of kids she meets are rude, emotionally immature, and GLUED to their phones. So many of them have very little skills themselves, and just watch other people do things online.

[@jjcika7504]

I wonder how much of these incidents are influenced by sex/gender... as in how many instances of violence against teachers are by male students. There's a lot of extremely and openly sexist content on the internet for anyone to find, and teaching is a female dominated field. I've heard a story from a teacher who had a student who openly said he didn't respect her because she's a woman

[@awuoroawuor]

this is a really central factor in my opinion. there is a significant rise in contempt for female peers, female authority globally. alongside a general sense that there is no value in how our societies are organised. In the age of access, I think boy children are also far too exposed to pornography to see women as anything more than maternal and sexual. additionally, going to school with boys as a young girl (im 19 now) was hell. The harassment and pressuring into sexual favours was pretty common so i can only imagine how much worse it has gotten.

[@LucentSky]

I agree there is the sentiment of "boys will be boys" that allows boys to never learn and to act crazy and aggressive because they are not taught no or how to respect other's boundaries or have empathy for others, and this creates an even larger problem as they become an adult who does not understand these concepts.

[@SailorSlay]

In my limited experience it very rarely a girl child causing extreme problems

[@gossip_girl_xoxo2003]

THIS THIS THIS 💯💯💯

[@introspectivevelociraptor8274]

As a Gen Z man, I can guarantee you it's mostly young boys being violent. Not entirely for the reasons you're thinking though. Young men have significantly more energy that young girls do, and it manifests in different ways. Ways that are incompatible with the school system. Being forced to sit down in a chair for 8 hours a day is awful for young boys. It hasn't been an issue through for one big reason, they had fathers that instilled in them control and discipline. Boys without strong MALE role models in their immediate life (in other words a good father) are Extremely more violent, more likely to commit crimes of violent or sexual nature, and more likely to drop out of school early. With single mother households at their highest rate in history, and add to the fact that parents are overworked at the highest point in history, it results in young boys not being taught how to control the crazy amount of energy they have. This will only get worse as they start going through puberty. Ladies, if you have sons, you only have ONE opportunity to give your child a role model. If you couldn't keep the father around, then your son will find his own role model. Whether or not it's the nuclear scientist, the gang member on the street, or Andrew Tate online. It becomes his choice after you kick the man out, and he'll latch onto the first "interesting" man he finds.

[@EneEri]

Let me be clear: the shortage is 💯 turnover. Newbie teachers want to leave but are stuck with their student loans, mid-teachers (5+ years) want to leave but are waiting out to get to year 20. Veteran teachers want to leave but have “golden handcuffs” (pay too good to start elsewhere but not that great for all the years; my district cap was 60k) and you get extra pay for staying an extra five years called “dip”. My first year, my entire grade level would sit together at the end of the day trying to strategize how we could get out of teaching. Everyday. I left on year 4 after politics and lack of compliance with laws started interfering with my morals, I had to go. I kept putting myself as the teacher to take the blunt of the bad students just because I’m a codependent and didn’t want to see anyone else struggle through it, I justified in my mind that I could handle it and therefore relieve some stress from their plate. I just burnt out in the process when it was “good” times and then moving districts and seeing the corruption enraged me. I didn’t work since Oct 2023 and just recently got a part-time job working 2 days a week back in June. My anxiety was 21/21 and my depression was 18/21. I had passive SI, would get up around 12pm or later everyday, really only to walk my dogs and then just faze out until my husband came home. Teaching and the aftermath was a nightmare. On another level, many MANY teachers are good hearted people who endured childhood trauma and want to protect children from experiences like those of their own, just to then be traumatized from those they want to protect. I know personally I was 5/10 on the ACES trauma assessment even prior to entering teaching, but it was the only thing I ever wanted to do since school was my home.

[@sunekun]

Depression means your testosterone is low. Testosterone protects against depression so you might wanna go to the doctor and get that checked.

[@silververnallbells191]

@@sunekun ?? Depression means the serotonin levels in your brain are low. I'm pretty sure OP is a woman, so she already has low testosterone. What might be true to males does NOT work for females.

[@idoitforchina]

Just want to say I have almost the same experience as you 💗💗💗 I’m so sorry you went through the pain and suffering too. We can recover and start fresh. Things will be better at a new job. Sending hugs to a fellow friend who found their home at school and had their heart broken by teaching.

[@twentynineteen4687]

Thank you for sharing this. So honest, so important. Those of us still on the front lines know your 1st paragraph is 100% true.

[@twentynineteen4687]

Thank you for sharing this. So honest, so important. Those of us still on the front lines know your 1st paragraph is 100% true.

[@1nsomn14c_]

I work at a school as a tutor. I used to be a waitress. The mental turmoil, anxiety, and the abuse from these kids is so much worse than it ever was when I was working at a restaurant.

[@_YonaChan]

Because of lazy ,irresponsible and incompetent parents , teachers have to be extra responsible and it's not how it should be. Also as a teacher myself gentle parenting is literally the parents trying to heal their inner child and cope with their own parents being unbalancedly strict to them. If you can't afford to follow and parent a child then simply don't have a child.

[@Sarah-qx4vz]

I HATE parents like that. My son gets to be a silly kid but he is most certainly disciplined and has manners. I don’t tolerate any BS when it comes to being rude. He’s such a sweet boy and I hate seeing parents just… NOT parent.

[@vanesasteves6922]

let's make the distinction tho, gentle parenting is NOT permissive or uninvolved parenting, it's authoritative. It's being there for your child, compassionate, helping them process and teaching them (including boundaries and respect)

[@BlairWytch74]

@@vanesasteves6922it isn’t working very well.

[@pinkrunt]

@@BlairWytch74it actually is, BlairWytch74. “gentle parenting” has been backed by research. most confuse permissive parenting with gentle parenting when they are NOT exchangeable terms at all. what you see in your daily life that you think isn’t working is actually just permissive parenting and neglect.

[@BlairWytch74]

@@pinkrunt I don’t experience squat when it comes to parenting as I’ve chosen not to. I don’t really care what you call it, label it or what category you put it in. The parents I observe, especially lately, are lazy and entitled, so it’s a good chance their kids will turn out the same, hence the initial decline of society. People have kids for kudos, not to take care of and be responsible for a whole other human.

[@chappytts5977]

One thing I do wanna add as someone who quit teaching for several reasons (student and parent behaviour, burnout, unrealistic expectations from management, chronic understaffing to the point of illegality) - some of the “bad kids” are just straight up being failed by the system. Example - there was a girl in my school who would often get into very nasty verbal fights with other children completely unprompted, would randomly run out of class and try to leave school grounds, and would steal food from other kids at lunch. I witnessed another teacher talk to her mother about her behaviour. Her mother YANKED her by the arm and started screaming in her face that she was a mistake, nobody could ever love her, and even called her a “f@t sl*t”. This girl was EIGHT years old. Suddenly all her behaviour made sense. We reported the mother several times to the local authorities and nothing was ever done. Broke my heart. So yeah, there are absolutely awful kids out there (trust me, I’ve encountered several who had zero excuse for their shocking behaviour, I literally have the scars to prove it), but some of them are displaying learned behaviour because they’re in ab*sive situations, and the system that helps kids escape those situations is horrifically broken.

[@morbidmanuscript9324]

Gentle parenting is not “punishment-free” it is CORPORAL punishment-free. There are several ways to punish a child and show them consequences for their actions without harming them

[@Flycatcher31415]

I was a teacher from age 19 (I graduated from college early) to 25. My third year of teaching, I unexpectedly won “teacher of the year”. The day prior, I got punched in the face by a student. My bruised face was all over the local news, but I tried to pretend to look happy for the camera. No one commented on the bruised. The next year, I transferred to a smaller school and quit mid-year due to politicking. I got my CDL, make twice as much as I did as a teacher, and EVERYONE in my life talks about how much happier and healthier I look and sound due to the career change. Even as a star teacher, this occupation nearly destroyed me.

[@JessicaEdwards-oo5zc]

Again, there is a difference between Gentle Parenting and Permissive Parenting. The website saying "no punishment" doesn't equate to "no consequences". Gentle parenting takes an enormous amount of extra work on the part of the parent. It's the parents that are permissive, that let the children run the roost, that are the problem. I had previously considered myself a gentle parent because I value my children being able to recognize their emotions. Once I saw the association with "all feelings are valid" and the claim that gentle parenting is causing all these issues, I've stopped claiming any part of the Gentle Parenting movement.

[@tinysey]

Oh I see, thanks for the clarification 👌🏾👌🏾

[@cadejust6777]

​@tinysey Why Are Parents Soley To Blame For There Children Failing Education When There Are Also Bad Teachers Who Are Also Responsible There Are Also Endless Examples Of Teachers Being Fired For This Fact By The Way?.

[@Mmax98406]

​@@cadejust6777Because these children are coming in to school not even knowing how to read. I'm Gen z and my parents actually taught me how to read and do basic math before I got sent to kindergarten. Now every Gen alpha kid I know can't even read basic books

[@RonniV2]

My aunt used to be a teacher aide in a public elementary school. She quit 8 years ago because the behavior was so bad THEN. She said a 7 year old stabbed her in the stomach with a pencil after she tried to get him off another kid who he was punching. She would regularly be cussed out by kindergarteners. Whenever the parents were contacted, the PARENTS would cuss them out for complaining about their child. It was unbelievable then, and it appears to just be getting worse. The biggest proponent appears to be the parenting (or lack of) being done at home. It's tragic because these kids seem to be set up for failure by the people who are supposed to have their best interest at heart.

[@kurjaesitys]

Oh yeah I easily noticed this wirh very young Gen Zs and gen alphas. I graduated this year but oh my god all the classes even mine was vile, but the lower ones were even worse because many kids who grew up during the pandemic couldnt write properly.

[@silververnallbells191]

@@kurjaesitys "grew up during the pandemic" - schools were closed for less than a year. This excuse is bogus.

[@hayleyhellbound9513]

I realized that fellow parents must be nightmares when, not one, not two, but THREE different teachers had tears in their eyes over the most basic acts of kindness (I literally gave them each a small bag of generic brand things for the classroom like wipes, paper towels, etc) and said yes to a social story about my daughter’s communication device being told in class so her classmates have a story to relate to her device for more understanding. That’s it. Also the shock on their faces when I ask if my kids behaved that day. Like I actually care and would do something about it… of course I would care! They can’t be disrupting their own or others education progress!

[@EntropyAndSingularity]

When I was small, parents being called was not only a threat because of any physical punishment (which was rare anyway for obvious reasons), but psychologically. Kids look up to their parents and teachers (or they should) because the big people are smart and strong and do cool stuff. Disappointing those adults makes you feel ashamed because you did something wrong and upset mommy and daddy. It’s an important lesson that teaches you that other people care about what you do and that can affect important relationships. The problem with Gen Alpha is that they have been taught that adults are not people to look up to. They don’t know anything. They’re old. They don’t understand you. They don’t care. This makes it so that calling parents is canceled out as an effective punishment. It’s like taking away material things from someone who doesn’t use them. Doesn’t do much.

[@I.am.SnailCake]

To be honest, I wonder how much of the troubles are trickle down from No Student Left Behind, where school funding got tied up in how many students were moving up the ladder 🍎

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

No need to wonder. We all talk about it. Yes. Yes it has a lot to do with it. Us teachers talk about it all the time. That guy who said he could fill the grade book with zeros and they’ll come behind you and change it was not lying.

[@I.am.SnailCake]

@@DaughterofDiogenes The road to hell is paved with good intentions

[@braixeninfection6312]

I failed so many of my school classes and still moved up grades. It wasn't until college did I actually try and made amazing grades. I believe in so many ways this policy hurts. Putting a student into the next grade with harder subjects with no knowledge of the previous subjects only guarantees further failures.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

@@braixeninfection6312 it also pushes teachers into the position of having to teach to a test instead of teaching the children how to be future adults. It’s bad for everyone involved.

[@kate287]

My parents called it “no child gets ahead” because moving to a new school, I wasn’t allowed to take math with the 5th graders as a 4th grader despite me already completing that level at my old school (3rd and 4th graders were mixed). I spent the whole year in math finishing my homework before class was even over, then dicking around and unintentionally distracting other students who were trying to learn. I have no idea why we insist on everything being done by grade rather than by skill level, whether that’s being ahead OR behind in a subject. Pushing kids through to the next grade when they’re not ready so they weren’t “left behind” helped no one.

[@marsoulini]

Gosh, people, if you can’t handle to go out of your way to actually teach your children how to behave and do your job as a parent, just don’t have kids.

[@hcapps7769]

Hate to say it, but a lot of them probably didn't plan to... 😶

[@just.a.guy324]

Unfortunately people have completely disconnected secks from having kids, so people are really just not being responsible about it at all and then they have kids they don’t want. Sad

[@lexezlao]

​@@just.a.guy324 also some straight up don't see children as people or as future people at the least, they're just little more than vanity accessories and thus they don't treat with little more care than a pet

[@Anotherhumanexisting]

Humans just need to stop breeding tbh. Life is guaranteed suffering. My generation and the ones that are following are just increasingly dealing with severe mental illness, physical problems like autoimmune disorders and chronic pain, neglect and abuse, etc, etc. and then coming of age into an economy of suffering and few opportunities to live a functional life. Like there’s no upside into bringing life into this world except for selfish and/or thoughtless reasons.

[@ShadowOfTheSPQR]

Demographically, this has been happening. What gets me is that the people who decide that already exhibit responsibility more than the ones who do and shit like this is normalized. Some of them probably would have actually bothered given the chance. It's bizarre.

[@EALoArt]

0:14 I try to get further in the video before dropping my two cents normally. I left a school because after dealing with literally everything she said in the clip, I went to admin and they explained to me why it was my fault. I mentioned that every teacher I've spoken to has the same issues with the same students. They told me it was because I hadn't cleaned my classroom well enough. I reminded them I'd been asking for a custodian to clean my classroom for two months. They told me they were tired of hearing me call 20 times a day, then the AP let me know they never heard me call. After doing extra work for them for free after work every day because "there was no one else to do it," as soon as that task was done they let me know they don't need me anymore, but I'm welcome to go to the job fair this weekend 😊. My coworker had a student tell her she knows where she lives and she has friends in a gang, she's going to send them to her house. We had HUNDREDS of deleted write ups. They're supposed to be a record of the students behavior, it is SUPPOSED to be able to be used for doctors for students as well. Our school let us know our only priority was making that number go down. Hence the hundreds of deletions. The admin that did it got a promotion at the end of the year. I couldn't sleep and was throwing up almost daily. I also still have nightmares. It's not even because of the kids. Middle school is miserable. I remember. What's inexcusable is the fact that the adults who are ignoring it so that they can focus on how good the numbers look. I sometimes almost hoped one of the kids would actually lay hands on me bad enough so I could have physical evidence along with a history of being ignored, sue, and never come back. I still cry at night thinking about some of the kids that are still there, getting beat up, begging someone to do something, getting lied to and told "we're working on it" I don't know how the fuck you can be in a school and not feel it eating you up inside that kids are being abused IN YOUR SCHOOL and you know and aren't trying to stop it. I almost forgot! After an assault in my classroom, I went to admin because they made it a minor incident and had the consequence as "discussion", when I went to talk to the admin about it, he told me there needed to be AT LEAST three incidents before there can be a consequence. When I asked him if that meant every student was allowed two assaults before a consequence, he told me to stay in my lane. 🍎 Thanks so much for making this video. More people need to be aware of how bad the school system is right now.

[@demo2823]

I tutored for 4 months. Gave up after a teenager stuck his hand up his shorts and played diddle diddle while I was sitting shoulder to shoulder explaining plants to him.

[@emiliap8790]

Horrible

[@Far7860]

What if you do online tutoring?

[@aronsurakh1747]

like what do you even do in those situations

[@MRCOPYGUY]

Ew what the fuck?

[@victoriasalcido2099]

Eeewww

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

I went to school in 2000s. The worst behavior was a kid talking to another kid while teacher was giving a lecture. After being asked to be quiet, kid went quiet. Again. This was the worst behavior we had back then.

[@Nayas_Scattered_Mind]

As someone born in 2002, I am inclined to agree, although I can’t help but think I witnessed some warning signs, because in highschool it got worse. I remember it wasn’t just talking anymore, it was outright ignoring the teachers. Hell, one of my teacher’s went out of the class room for five minutes and a few kids got up, one blocked the door with a desk, another went and drew and wrote on the board. Again, she was gone for like, five minutes and when she got back she was understandably furious because she could outright hear them talking and laughing from down the hall. It’s horrendous how things changed over time.

[@CoffeeaddictWriting]

As someone born in 2001 my school(mainly high school and the UK equivalent to middle school which is just early high school) was already like the gen alphas to the point where students were running around in class, dancing on tables and throwing chairs, swearing at teachers, but I lived in rural Scotland lol.

[@existential_horror5045]

i was born in 2004 so i went to school later than you did and i can agree that there wasn't a common culture of violence or disrespect, but some students did swear at their teachers or were violent with them (notably one kid i was in a class with in middle school threw one of those metal desk/chair combos at the teacher). i think the main difference is not what happens but the lack of action about it. when students see that they can do anything they want and not really face consequences for it, more students will act out. whenever people acted out when i was in school there was the threat of disciplinary action and schools were not afraid to suspend people. now, when the threats are empty, nothing changes.

[@Jessica-tk5kg]

As a teacher, I'd cry tears of joy if they stopped talking during lectures the first time they're told

[@Suited_Nat]

@@existential_horror5045yep.

[@galaxybrainz]

I still have a bite mark scar from last year. My body is covered in bruises from what I face daily. However, I do not blame the children. I work with little kids; they are unregulated, struggling to figure out how to exist in the world because of their home situation or sometimes untreated/unacknowledged development disabilities. I haven't given up yet; I adore these kids and my job, but I honestly don't know if I can keep going after this year. The hardest part is having parents ignore you or yell at you when you try to address their behaviors.

[@cayreet5992]

One point about actual gentle parenting is 'setting boundaries' with the children. These children aren't punished or screamed at, but they are taught that there are rules you have to keep to. I was raised in a similar way in the 1970s and 80s, as my parents subscribed to anti-authoritarian parenting. Instead of being beaten or locked up or told I was a horrible person, my parents explained the rules to me. 'Do not touch the stove, you could hurt yourself.' 'Stay by my side when we're out in traffic or you might get run over by a car.' 'Listen to what your teacher tells you, because they're there to teach you stuff and you need to learn things.' My parents themselves also came from a generation who had treated their children badly - most of their parents (in Germany where I'm from) subscribed to actual Nazi methods that told parents not to show empathy or love to their childen (because children who grow up without empathy make for better soldiers). They wanted to do differently and that led to them actually talking to their children, showing them both that they were trustworthy and that they weren't going to hurt them. That doesn't mean there were no consequences for bad behaviour, but they were embedded in the idea of still teaching a child why their behaviour was wrong, so it wasn't about screaming or beating a child (corporeal punishment has been illegal in the classroom here in Germany since around the time I was born). None of my classmates would have acted like Gen Alpha does. None of the teachers (or school administration) would have stood for it.

[@peytoncollins3962]

I hate to be that person, but social media is contributing to students' behavior, as well as peer pressure from other students in the classroom. Yes, it's not the entire issue and parents are an issue with it; however, there are still students who are on social media and not doing appropriate things on it, no matter what the parents do in order to restrict their access. Kids Under 16 shouldn't have social media and they don't need a smartphone at a young age. I'm Gen Z and survived without it as a teenager 🤷‍♀️ There are also quite a few students who are okay at home, but following what their friends are doing and acting out. I saw this in high school. Now it's not the majority but it's something that needs to be considered.

[@chappytts5977]

The “clout chasing” culture on social media has definitely contributed to bad behaviour. At one of the schools I worked at, there was a big scandal that involved a group of older kids (around 10 years old) going up to younger kids (5 or 6 year olds) on the playground and trying to convince them to say slurs or do things to hurt themselves, while the older kids filmed them. It was disgusting. But most of the parents of these older kids kicked up a fuss when we tried to take their phones away during school times, because “they might need them for emergencies”. Sure, Jan.

[@kurjaesitys]

We need to being back phones that are only for texting, so they can call their parents or friends at the veyr least. But they do not need social media.

[@Cheesecake-qt2qp]

@@kurjaesitysThat or parents can actually puts child protection on children’s phone. There’s ones that put the child’s phone kn screen time and see what apps there on

[@Ieatbatteries1]

I personally got a smartphone at 11, however content that I consumed was heavily monitored, luckily for me. I only got it for texting and calling, and mainly used it for that. But no way in hell should kids get direct freedom on a phone. I’m just lucky that I was an emotionally mature kid, and that my mom was strict. Parental controls should always be on and the phone should be monitored if they are given one, and they shouldn’t be allowed to be on any social media without restrictions. I personally wouldn’t be able to survive without a cell phone due to my constant paranoia problems, disabilities, and attachment issues, but everything should ALWAYS be monitored. And young children should only be allowed to play non social games on their parent’s phone/ipad (like toca boca games, word games, etc). When I was a kid I got very limited time on my mom’s iPad, which was always offline games. Some parents are just sick in the head.

[@Cheesecake-qt2qp]

@@Ieatbatteries1 exactly, and that’s how children with technology should be handled, they should be monitored. When I was little I was given technology and I wasn’t monitor for the first part, and that kinda messed up my mind and made me into weird stuff

[@divaglam92]

Too much screen time can stunt development, and unfortunately the pandemic made that worse along with parents losing motivation to properly parent. Our country is struggling with mental illness due to the pandemic and what followed like our economy and such

[@creed8712]

The problems were there before but the pandemic was almost like hitting an evolution switch and rapidly advancing the issue.

[@kendallschoen7129]

I was a high school teacher in a public school for 3 years. I loved my students, and I loved my school, but there were definite problems. I had a book thrown at my head one time. I had students cuss me out regularly. One student threatened to beat me up several times. One student made sexually inappropriate comments toward me and was eventually removed from my classroom. These are the worst examples. I have a lot more positive examples of my students than negative. That being said, I for sure noticed the increase in behavioral issues and a lack of parental involvement. I had several parent-teacher meetings where the parents told me "I don't know what to do with them. When they're at school they're your problem," which was really discouraging to hear. I'm not in the classroom anymore, I tutor and I teach at an after school program. The behavior issues are still there, but it's nicer to be able to have a smaller number of students to worry about instead of the 130+ I used to have.

[@foxes_of_venus]

I'm not a teacher, I'm a student, but wow. I DEFINITELY AGREE with the sexual comment one. This happened when I was in Year 7, a kid made a sexually (AND I MEAN SEXUALLY) INAPPROPRIATE comment to one of the female teachers, leading to him getting removed from class. HE WAS AROUND 12, AND HE WAS IN MY ART CLASS! Now I'm so fucking terrified to go back to school cause of the amount of disrespect, bullying and hostility at my school.. EDIT: I'm really sorry you had to experience that! 😔 🫂

[@maddi6081]

My teenage cousin is the product of gentle parenting and he is the most compassionate, confident and intelligent kid I have ever met. But not anyone does gentle parenting correctly

[@ActuallyAShrimp]

I was gently parented and people seem to think it just means "oh so u weren't hit?" In reality it's more about trusting yourself and those you love. I didn't need to be threatened or hit because I'd start crying as I told on myself😂

[@davidandfredslapfight]

I'm an older millenial (graduated in '03). At my old high school, students made a pregnant teacher miscarry by pushing desks at her mid section repeatedly. We've had male students over power and punch female teachers because the students were caught ditching class. It's been like this for decades.

[@user-vx3wc8yc9v]

Yeah it's kind of irritating seeing people act like this is new This has always existed, we just didn't have smart phones (handheld computers with ready camcorders) filming everything back then There have always been questionable kids and awful parents

[@heathpie5678]

These kids need something to lose. I tried hard because I was scared to lose sports or get grounded. You’d be scared of failing/being held back because you’d lose your friends or be embarrassed. These kids have no consequences and NO shame!

[@johninsalisbury2010]

don't forget about how principals are not doing their job but blaming teachers when the students go crazy

[@Plvsh_fox]

It’s honestly horrible, the ONE WEEK I went to middle school I was ganged up on by a group of girls (thankfully slipped away whilst they were shit talking me), had to stick up FOR A TEACHER (she proceeded to play it off like nothing and tell me to let it go, thankfully the kid stopped disrupting class), a fight after school broke out and about a DOZEN STUDENT left school for two weeks, kids were getting shoved in trash cans, some girl was getting it on in the bathroom with a HIGH SCHOOLER, and my dad was shit talked by the principal for pulling me out. Homeschool was the best decision of my life

[@aronsurakh1747]

what country is this? that literally sounds insane

[@Plvsh_fox]

@@aronsurakh1747 America, state of Hawaii, specifically Oahu

[@aronsurakh1747]

@@Plvsh_fox sorry you were in that situation, but glad you know those kind of behaviour choices are horrible.

[@Plvsh_fox]

@@aronsurakh1747 of course, unlike most kids, my parents are completely present and involved in my life

[@StayArtsy]

​@Plvsh_fox fr! Btw I'm also homeschooled ❤

[@rainebows]

my parents are teachers and there are two main things they haven’t seen anyone bring to this topic 1. that parents rarely take accountability in this situation, in most pre-covid circumstances, after reporting the student to their parents, the parents see the issue and then give the child consequences. however, that isn’t happening and most parents comeback aggressively and tell the principles. then the teachers are put into a situation where they can’t call on the parents to fix their children’s behaviour because they could get fired. 2. additionally, good children who don’t act out are being severely impacted by their classmates inability to learn. the back from homeschooling transition has been hard on many students but hard-working students with difficult classroom environments have not been able to remedy their grades to how they were prior to covid.

[@peiithos]

#2 is rarely talked about. like, in a classroom constantly held back or delayed by unruly children the ones who arent unruly get unfairly punished by their behavior. they spend so much time waiting to actually learn and have a hard time staying on top of grades because the teachers have such limited time to teach and such small windows it hurts those kids. its hard to learn in an enviornment full of people screaming and being violent both verbally and physically. and all of that plus the transition from homeschooling to the classroom? recipe for disaster.

[@kingriley6999]

I’m a SPORTS COACH for elementary schoolers, after school, and i can see the lack of education and home training and emotional regulation and general COGNITIVE FUNCTION in kids 4-11. There are a handful of kids who actually work and function like a regular 5-11 year old. So many cant count, cant spell their names, cant tie shoes, and some are the most rancid and most diabolical bullies i’ve ever seen.

[@Lee-tt2yb]

Please stay with it. The adults who helped my child the most in grade school - over and over, at every school - were the coaches. Why? Because they demonstrated leadership. They had expectations. Those expectations were clearly expressed. And by meeting those expectations, the children were affirmed and led further. (We eventually homeschooled. Maybe the coaches could help other teachers learn crowd management, organization, and that particular kind of focus and direction that coaches have.)

[@NelinhaDC]

What’s crazy to me is that I’m a sped para - I go to work everyday and expect to get hit. I’ve had blood drawn, glasses broken from punches, countless subluxed joints. But to me that’s sort of what I’m getting into. I tend to work more with behaviors and in programs where that sort of behavior is expected. The crazy part is that I’m hearing stories from TEACHERS, actual classroom teachers, that sound like the sort of stories I share from my jobs working in sped. Classroom teachers should not be experiencing or dealing with that. That is not their job, and the complete lack of support from districts nowadays is disgusting. Schools are STRUGGLING with what they have and their only solution is to lay off more and more as if that will help. What is happening? What are we doing as a society and how have we let it get this far? It’s so heartbreaking all the kids who aren’t being supported while teachers are being supported even less. It was my DREAM to be a teacher all through high school. so much so that immediately after graduating HS I spent a year teaching english abroad to dip my toes in the water and I was shocked at the absolute lack of respect from nearly every single student. It got to the point where I had to slap books down on tables just to get enough attention to ask the class to be quiet. It was appalling. I worked with every single grade in that school and every single one had not a single ounce of respect or interest in learning. This was a private school too. After being a sped para for a few years I decided fully I won’t get my teaching credentials. I’m going for an SLP degree now. Teaching is just too dangerous, completely unappreciated, and not worth what it once was to me… It breaks my heart to think about

[@Orangeeaterwithcream]

I can relate to this as a para myself! The kids who aren’t even in SPED have more intense and inappropriate behaviors than what I experience in my own scope of work. I work at an elementary school and a 6th grader has already formed a wanna be gang banging clique and has jumped a SPED kid. They pants him and when he reacted with punching the kid who pants him-the kids started jumping him to protect the boy who pants him. Poor kid managed to run away and jump the school fence and curled up into a ball. All of them including the kid who got assaulted were suspended for half a day. I guess the kid who was victimized got suspended because he jumped the fence… the admin here make no sense.

[@cynthiahowe]

I'm also a SPED Para, and you are SO right. Being physically abused and verbally harassed / threatened all day, every day, is considered part of the job.

[@MeganPinskey]

An educator was recently blinded by a student who threw a chair at her. The chair hit her in the eye and it was knocked out. Her doctor was able to reattach it but she’s now blind in that eye :(

[@Koolaidsgiver]

That’s genuinely horrifying oh my goodness I hope she’s doing well

[@DanaScully1997]

@MeganPinskey Omg I hope she is doing okay, but did she press charges against that devil who did it 😢😢

[@hellebore_59]

I remember when I was in grade 6 we had a teacher who was on crutches as he had a disability. Some of the people in my class were pretty feral and would make jokes about it, call him an ape etc. But the year below us, once they had moved up and we moved on to year 7, were EVEN WORSE. I don't know what the hell they did but there were reports that they drove him to tears and he quit teaching. I can't imagine how much worse it is now because this happened 10 years ago.

[@doid4354]

I have so much disgust for the kids in my class who used to openly insult and degrade our teachers. I NEVER disrespected my teachers even if I didn’t like their opinions or teaching style. And me siding with my teacher and trying to get a disruptive class to quiet down so I could listen to what was being taught, made me the bad guy. I have always respected teachers for doing what they do, because children can be so much to deal with. It’s so hard not to judge millenials for raising spoiled brats.

[@kittykatycupcake318]

Same. My brother had a history teacher in 9th with some sort of illness or disorder, I believe Parkinson’s , and he and the rest of the students would relentlessly bully her. It was insane. Students would insult her, curse, pick fights, record stuff in the classroom, throw chairs and other chaotic things. I understand being frustrated with a teacher who can’t teach but it’s sad to see young people being so cruel. My brother wouldn’t actively participate in the bullying p(so he told me) but he would still laugh and call her the r slur and hype up his friends who were doing the same thing. It’s really sad how little empathy and respect kids have for teachers or even anyone with a disability.

[@ten5h1]

These kids are going to tank when they enter the workforce. Unemployment is going to skyrocket because the workplace is not like school.

[@kl41256-p]

These kids won’t amount to anything. They won’t take a job that is needed for society for function and instead opt to become wannabe influencer filth bc the IPads that raise them told them so. We live in a society of idiots; idiots that embarrass themselves and say stupid shit and gets tens of millions for doing so. These kids will be nothing more than public nuisances. Now that I saw this video and seeing the irreversible damage irresponsible parenting, the school system, and the IPad, my conclusion is that Gen Alpha is a hopeless generation. They don’t want to be helped so we don’t help them.

[@candicefrost4561]

It depends. People who act like this can go far in some very toxic work environments.

[@creed8712]

You see that’s actually the worst part. These kids will basically be slaves because they have no other skills. And I do mean that literally as if the violent behavior is not quelled the incarceration rate will skyrocket and many of them will be the legal slaves we use in the prison system at least in America. The rest will be placed on the most bare bones jobs that require very limited cognitive skills and since they have no other skills they will be stuck there for a very long time until the next batch is ready

[@neilmcdougall4927]

0 cohesion between generations

[@sabrinahendershot3513]

That SpongeBob clip was perfect. I saw a post yesterday that kindergarten students didn't even know their name for rollcall.

[@domoru5264]

There’s always a SpongeBob clip for ANY scenario

[@ThatInsaneGamer-hp4gh]

What they don't know their own name bruh

[@vf1923]

I worked in schools where kids beginning school didn't know their name. This was 12 years ago. The school in question had a special program where kids coming to school for the first time (JK aged) learned basic life skills like communicating, dressing, cleaning themselves, sitting in a circle, listening to a story, etc. It was like remedial parenting. And I think it did have a positive impact, but obviously some kids by age 4-5 are already too messed up to be easily redeemable. This was generally in the UK an area with a very low income. The school was quite unruly and I did get a chair thrown in a class once and had to clear the classroom. There was a racism problem in the diverse school. But the actual problem was always a very small percentage. One genuinely unhappy child can cause a very serious problem in a classroom. Some of the kids went to specialist schools some of the week, but this generated problems when a bully and his victim ended up sharing a classroom, and the victim told me that he had been told he would end up in prison. This is not a new problem in the world, but it might be a new problem in the US. It requires a multi-pronged approach and a LOT of teaching staff.

[@mazzy2282]

my mom spoiled the hell out of me, i was lowkey a spoiled brat, but she also taught me love and acceptance, she taught me basic respect towards others. I was never mean to a teacher, and there was only ONE time i saw a student hit a teacher, it was in 8th grade and a kid threw a chomebook at her. she had to take the rest of the day off and i felt so horrible for her. I loved all my teachers, i treated them like actual human beings, i dont understand what changed from when i was a kid and how i was taught and now.

[@fair5075]

Even in my highschool I experienced a teacher be forced to take a leave due to having to get surgery after being hit with a door while two students were fighting

[@chappytts5977]

Also - we’re now seeing permissive parenting trends (aka rewarding children for bad behaviour) trickle into the school system. Where I worked, they decided that we needed to “respond with a positive approach” to bad behaviour rather than discipline students. “Bad” kids were sent out of the class with a teacher’s aid, but they were taken into the playground to play football. Later, they added another feature to this, where they got an “emotional support” dog which the “bad” kids would be allowed to pet and play with when they got taken out of class. The idea of this was to use up their excess energy and calm them down so they could refocus when they returned to class, especially in the case of autistic/ADHD students. Sweet idea on paper, right? TERRIBLE idea in practice. Because at the beginning of the year, you’d have maybe 2 or 3 kids who got access to this. Then, those 2 or 3 kids would come back into class and brag to the other students about how they got to have fun as a “punishment” for being bad, and soon enough EVERY child in the class would be acting bad in hopes that they’d get to leave class to play football or pet a dog. OBVIOUSLY that was always going to happen. But these kinds of things are thought up by people sitting in offices who haven’t actually been in a classroom for years, so they don’t get it.

[@idunnobutyay2520]

I get that restorative justice is a good idea, but sometimes it just seems like school admins either don’t want to do anything or they want to avoid the wrath of parents. I worked as a teacher’s aide and some of the kids I worked with were just terrible. One kid who was so bad went to the principal’s office and came back with candy- which made the other kids think that it was unfair.

[@razorrushh]

THIS!! i think that the “emotional support dog” idea would be great for students that suffer with adhd/autism like you mentioned but like.. shouldnt that just be for people that suffer from panic attacks or whatever? the amount of times that kids are just taught that by being bad theyd get a reward while the “good” kids just… dont get anything? its like the ipad kid problem where theyre just trained to know that being bad = reward

[@keewadium]

Not a teacher, but i worked around kids at a trampoline park. I don’t know if it’s a thing with the current generation or if kids have always been like this, but I had to quit because they were so disrespectful. I was hit, punched, had basketballs thrown at my head, had lasers shined in my eyes, was yelled and cursed at, and had kids latch onto my legs and their parents wouldn’t care. Zero repercussions. The parents would see these things and look away, the owners of the trampoline park did nothing, so the kids think it’s totally fine to use and abuse others

[@mochi.bunn7]

The best thing you can do is Call out the Parents. If the parents aren’t teaching their kids Morals and Self Discipline you’ve got to Call them out and let them know their kids are being neglected & are being disruptive.

[@juliesunnydaze]

Well said, " I parent more than I teach."

[@Evie-melrose]

Negligence, neglect, and incompetency are being masked as “gentle parenting.” Treating your kids with respect, patience, and kindness (the real goals of gentle parenting) is not the issue. Parents being either lazy, entitled, or overworked is the problem. They sit their children in front of the TV or give them iPads at age 2 because they’re either too tired from working 2-3 jobs or they simply do not give a fuck about their child’s behavior. Everything you’ve stated here is so alarming and rings true for a lot of educators. This system is not sustainable and it’s ruining these children’s future and society in general. I’m glad you’re able to address this on your platform, and I hope you are doing well now 🤍 Thank you for shining a light on this concerning issue

[@goopwithahat7142]

No it’s not. Nobody calls that gentle parenting. People have been fighting years so people will stop beating their kids just so other people can THEM the bad parents. Anyway I just hope anyone reading doesn’t think we have to bring back the rod 🙄

[@ur_missing_sock]

Genuinely feel so bad for teachers, my mom was a teacher and quit within a year because of how violent her class was . Her students attempted to strangle her, punched her , bit her and so much more. She would come home with bruises and bite marks everyday. Pay was horrible too.

[@00die00991]

I know of multiple former teachers who have quit due to repeatedly being attacked by students. Not only are they out of control but also parents fail to act and the schools do little to protect staff. 10 years ago attacking a teacher was an automatic suspension from the school and a likely expulsion if it was serious enough.

[@lalalshbs]

I am a school student, I had an English teacher in the past and she was so sweet but my classmates literally bullied her because she had an accent and they didn’t listen to her and made her cry a lot of times. It really made me sad

[@pikab8008]

I work with 1st graders and let me tell you… these kids are DISRESPECTFUL, I’ve been spit on and laughed at for the way I look. I had a student tell me that he’s just not going to do his homework because his mom will just do it for him.

[@theredcupcake]

i’m so sorry :( you deserve so much better, you’re real beautiful!

[@Mmax98406]

We have failed Gen alpha, parents just straight up neglect anything to do with PARENTING so these kids can't read, do math, have empathy. These kids are fucked when they turn into adults. I could also blame the government for gutting education, and the fact the most Americans have to have 2+ jobs and don't HAVE the time to raise their own children.

[@WorldTurndUpsideDown]

People are only raising their kids so that they can deal with them but they will not be there forever. They need to raise their kids so that other people are willing to deal with them.

[@kriskross6934]

I called it quits but one of the biggest moments that got to me was my first day with preschoolers. One of the kids decided to come up to me and tell me over and over “I’m gonna have my dad shoot you dead” while his friend went and sat on the floor and pissed herself. And the entire time I was trying to get help from one of the experienced teachers or even my boss but no one came. When I tried talking about the little boy I kept getting “oh he just says that” from my boss, and got in trouble for trying to talk to the parents about it. I hate working with kids now.

[@etaylor8028]

True. I was a former teacher. Ended up quitting. The kids are all sweethearts individually, but as a group, there is less of a "fear of authority". I can't tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing for society, but for teachers it's definitely a bad thing because if there is zero fear of ramifications then it becomes impossible to enforce rules. With no rules, then things turn into chaos. This summer, I worked at a summer camp. I figured this would be way easier than working at a school, because this time the kids would want to be there. It ended up being I would say even more difficult, because whatever modicum of respect the kids had for being in a school environment flew out the window. I don't give a flying duck if a kid likes me or respects me on an individual level. I just want to be able to do my job. My job is to teach these kids (and to make sure they don't hurt themselves). That's it. But I can't do it if it's constantly loud all the time. The kids themselves will even complain that it's too loud. And because it's loud, they then shout in order to be heard, so the noise just escalates. A lot of the kids had adhd/autism, and you could tell they were getting overstimulated. At my summer camp job, a lot of my coworkers and managers quit. One guy even quit two hours before the end of his shift on the last day (not for any particular reason other than he was just starting to hate the job). These kids are not "bad kids". But when you are put into a chaotic environment, then naturally you will act chaotic. I wonder if the root of the problem is their parents are overworked, so they plunk their kids in front of technology all day, and so the kids develop short attention spans and struggle to do anything that they don't find "fun". I remember when I was a kid, not everything was fun all the time. But that was life. With Gen Alpha, they feel like everything needs to be fun or they tap out. Their parents give in to everything their kid wants. Not all the kids (some of them were very respectful), but generally speaking. I don't think it's feasible to exist in a society where every individual gets "Marie Antoinette" privilege. It's not sustainable. I am not a slave that must give in to every desire of a child just because they are a child. My experience with children was so borderline traumatizing that I have decided to not have my own children. At least not in this country. And I have been with my spouse now for almost 10 years. The kids are just too entitled here, and I don't have the will anymore. These kids are straight up bullying their parents at times, all the while accusing the parents of being abusive.

[@Kkubey]

It's not really about authority, it is about respect after all. When the loud kid doesn't respect you, the usually nice kids will be ashamed of respecting you, too. People who were controlled by their parents in childhood try to raise their kids by telling them they don't have to do anything, so they don't learn to live among others. A similar reaction can be the result of especially emotional neglect, which is not always about a lack of time but can also be a result of not caring. Again, often a result of being raised in a way they want to compensate. The actual start of the problems dates back. And it is hard to say what the actual cause was. I suspect by now that it's about the loss of extended family. You no longer live close to the rest of your family, so the support and all the social interaction that used to be there is gone. In many places, neighborhoods don't know each other, either. In other places, having too many children has become a problem where it's just impossible to take care of every single child in the way they deserve while also living in a modern society where you go out and work, at least a part of the family. It's also sadly not a local problem, which is why I think the globalized world being constantly on the move is such a crucial factor.

[@secretagentcat]

rules and chaos are the same.

[@etaylor8028]

@@secretagentcat Ridiculous.

[@secretagentcat]

@@etaylor8028 sorry you don't understand it

[@maxwellllllllll-y5i]

I have seen first-hand how an ipad can quite literally ruin a kid if it is not monitored. I think apart of why Gen z was one of the last generations to be somewhat normal in school is because we had the first half of our education without the consumerism of technology to the extent it is today. I have faith however that Gen Z as parents will be more likely to monitor their children on the internet based on their own person experience with the internet in formative years. No 13 year old should be doing the stuff I was doing on the internet at that age, and furthermore I now share my experience with my mother in a very open and honest way because she had NO IDEA and left me unmonitored, I have two younger siblings and the first thing I said to her as soon as I could tell they were developing an interest in the internet, IS DO NOT LET THEM TALK TO STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET. Regardless of who, regardless of who they say they are or what age they say they are. Parents should have a ZERO tolerance for communication with strangers through the internet, they should be monitoring the frequency of technology use, and stressing that getting addicted to the dopamine from your phone or ipad WILL NOT MAKE YOU CONSISTENLY HAPPY but make you CONSISTENLY a boring human being as you get older. The amount of socialization skills, the amount of mental illness I was covering up and hiding from by talking to strangers on the internet is INSANITY. Genuinely if there's one thing these millennial and gen x parents of gen alpha can take from the Gen Z experience, it's that Technology is a great tool, but IT WILL NEVER supplement human connection with your child. If you are seriously giving them the ipad because you don't want to parent or hang out with your child, YOU ARE A BAD PARENT.

[@kamfrusciante]

My mom is a kindergarten teacher and she's been teaching for 20+ years. Recently she's been getting stressed and overwhelmed with her class, as special needs classes are dwindling so kids with behavioral issues are mixed with the regular classes and there's no available aides for her. She hasn't had over 18 kids and this year she has 27 as there is only one other kindergarten teacher. They've asked to hire another one to the principal, but she said there's no money. She also is having unknown health issues and has had to take days off and her doctors are saying nothing is wrong when they do tests, so I definitely think this is induced by stress. She has ten more years until she can retire, but I really don't know if sticking it out is worth her health. The system is really failing these kids and teachers.

[@Soggycheeseee]

I agree this is crazy man. There’s a girl in my class who yells at my teachers very single day and every day she gets her parents called on her. She complains that everyone’s so mean to her and she’s so nice to them. Meanwhile she said my teacher had a nose like the nile river

[@laurabutler264]

I remember, when I was supply teaching, I was teaching a Year 9 geography lesson (13/14 years of age) and the students were endlessly chatting, laughing, getting out of their seats and walking around. All their very easy worksheets remained blank (and it was a good and easy task too of designing a travel brochure for Australia and colouring it in!) I got so sick of it that I said they could leave early for break if they could remain completely silent and eyes forward for 1 single minute. I put a timer on the board. The reward was too good to pass up, so 99% of students gave it a solid go. It wasn’t even 10 seconds in that two boys at the back were looking at each other and laughing. Within 15 seconds someone had pretended to fall out of their chair, getting looks and laughs from most of the class. About half of them remembered the task and refocused. The other half had lost interest - chats started happening, phones came out. And that was only 30 SECONDS IN. Exams here in the UK are strict, turning and trying to communicate with someone (even non-verbally) more than a few times can get your paper shredded and you get a zero. These are the only official exams we take at 15/16 and will decide whether you get into further education or uni. And these kids just don’t feel it’s important enough to stop chatting. If I was an invigilator I’d rip it up in the first instance. But a parent would probably sue me.

[@kayleedalaba7094]

I once left a job where the behaviors described here were very common. The difference? I worked in an inpatient psychiatric facility. It is so scary that teachers are being faced with behaviors that we had specific training to deal with at the hospital. I also had an idea of what I was getting into when I took the job, whereas many teachers aren’t expecting this. This is probably a dramatic comparison but this is not how kids should act in school.

[@lesleysboswell]

It’s getting worse for us hospital workers, too, that’s for sure

[@Bea-xw1ri]

I currently teach freshman and sophomore college kids (late gen Z) and while the issues aren’t as extreme that is a TERRIBLE lack of critical thinking skills or even just the ability to connect one idea to another. With gentle parenting and the idea of “punishment free” parenting I think the miscommunication is people see “punishment free” as “consequence free” My parents never “punished” me persay (never was hit or grounded or anything) but I had to face the consequences of my actions early and often. I think punishment free without accountability teaches kids that as long as they don’t “get caught” (ie be called out or in some way made to answer for their actions) there is no consequence. You can see that A LOT with younger influencers too. Unless they face an actual backlash or threat to their position/wealth/influence/etc they really just don’t care. Even when those things are threaded there still isn’t a consequence so it reaffirms their views and continues the cycle. And gen alpha is taking in this content. IMO it’s coming from all sides teaching these kids that nothing has consequences. We’re gonna have a generation of young adults that will have a hard ass wake up call

[@Mangafan47]

I'm sorry I don't know at what age which school is typical in the US. Is it normal for 14-15yo (gen Z is 1997-2010) to attend college? I thought that high school is like 14-17yo. And college is like university so 17/18-25yo.

[@Bea-xw1ri]

@@Mangafan47 Yeah so most kids finish high school 17/18 and then go to college and university (which here are the same but with different accrediations or research grants) so I I'm teaching "early" gen Z. I guess I said later because they're older and in my mind the "later" because of the way I thnk about time 😬. I teach 18-20 year old right now and I teach Anthropology and Archaeology which to be fair not a lot of them are interested in or really want to learn about. It's tough to get them to engage or participate and the essays... It's not as bad as public school, not by a long shot. But trying to usher these kids from public "I don't care I can do anything I want" mindset to a "no we will fail you and you/your parents will be out tens of thousands of dollars" is a difficult transition for them to understand

[@rach7096]

i don't understand how these parents aren't embarrassed...it must be some crazy cognitive dissonance to think that your child talking back and being violent towards teachers is ok

[@The_Tomfool]

Student here- I had a math class last year (not gen alpha, although they were all on the young end of gen Z) and it was terrible. They weren’t just loud and disruptive to each other, but constantly insulted the teacher. They yelled and rolled on the floor (highschool freshmen), and they directly mocked this teachers accent. She tried so hard to be polite and deal with them, security was called daily, I’m her only trans student in that class and I’m so thankful to her- she took no shit in regards to herself or the class.

[@TravFam-m6m]

As a high school freshman, I'm sorry

[@Suited_Nat]

As a Gen z adult, Jesus. People need to learn respect.

[@valentinahblue5195]

Former summer Camp counsellor in Massachusetts…. These kids would single-handedly re crucify Jesus himself.