Tired of the Ford Fiesta ST? Try The E82 BMW 125i Coupe!

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Thanks to CarVertical www.carvertical.com/gb/landing/v3?a=JayEmm&b=38b26e3a&voucher=UK for sponsoring today's video.

[@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697]

Jay, is there any truth to 1 series burning through a lot of oil?

[@JayEmmOnCars]

@@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697 nothing specifically 1 series related. Depends on the engine

[@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697]

Thanks, I'm watching the vid now, just spoke to a mechanic the other day about buying one and he said the diesel just guzzle oil. Thanks for the second opinion :-)

[@420somewhereG]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🚘

[@Uvall127a]

@@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697 i do roughly 8k miles a year , i use a pint over the course of a year between oil changes.

[@spainter1985]

Noooo don't tell everyone, these are massively overlooked 😂

[@Bonkatronicks]

Yeah hate bmw there shit and always break down xD

[@theorangetriangle7316]

@@Bonkatronicks having owned over 5 bmws they are only not reliable if not maintained properly.

[@WhatsleftofTom]

@@theorangetriangle7316 I think you missed the joke...

[@theorangetriangle7316]

@@WhatsleftofTom I think you missed the part when I didn't ask

[@Zinbou1]

Yeah, everyone's laughing can't you see ?

[@6770connor]

I have much admiration for those who don’t follow the crowd when it comes to performance cars and choose something different or unique. It’s refreshing.

[@mro9466]

E82 coupes are very rare sadly.

[@acasserole9558]

@@mro9466 Since getting mine there's a fair few about in my area! Mostly diesels though

[@bensmithkent22]

125s rare these things were everywhere in 120d level. Had the pleasure or rather mixed bag costly ownership of a 123d coupe but an se spec on ridiculously skinny 205 tyres. Many problems with it dpf, and the top end turbo impeller went but it was a unique petroly ish diesel experience. Top end was something else for a 4 pot diesel. Golf 7 gtd i had after was a far superior car all round but couldnt live with the 123d above 85-90.

[@onepalproductions]

That's why I chose a Peugeot 107 this time.

[@zondabooze8422]

what would be considered following the crowd?

[@DrivenByLJ]

Watched this video about 18 months ago, and about 17 months ago, I bought my E88 125i. In that time, the starter motor is all that’s let me down within the last month but nothing a bump wouldn’t fix until I had time to get to the garage! I’ve serviced it, and done the rear shock absorbers and that is it. Now I’m thinking in the new year, more power, an exhaust, some nice wheels and just an all round spruce up is what she deserves. I’ve had an Audi S5 4.2 V8 manual which I loved, but not as much as this little 1 series. Currently have my 335i sat beside it now and well, the 335i is broken. I’ll say no more other than the love I have for my 125i, is that of wanting to keep it forever. Best car I’ve ever owned so far!

[@aa7h911]

I’ve had my fair share of BMW’s (E46 M3, E92 M3, E92 N54 335i, E92 N53 330i and E90 N55 335i) and now own a 125i. My only advice is if you want to experience the last of the NA engines ever made by BMW, grab yourself a 125i, install some M3 lower control arms, 135i backbox and remap and now you have a very well balanced, sounding and reliable 270BHP NA BMW with more than enough power for the road and track.

[@harrybatty5846]

Does the 135i back box make a worth-while difference to the sound ?

[@aa7h911]

@@harrybatty5846 It sure does. Mine has an N55 135i back box plus resonator delete and it sounds ace. Its loud when you need/want it to be, but can also be civilised around town. Lots of natural crackles/pops when you want, which is usually 2.5/3k+ rpm.

[@harrybatty5846]

@@aa7h911 cheers for the reply mate, thinking of getting it done. Did you buy the back box from breaking or did you buy it new? Sounds pretty spenny £ but worth it

[@aa7h911]

@@harrybatty5846 No worries mate. I got mine from eBay, but I do have to say, it took me months to find one at a reasonable price. It is a rare item and demand for these has gone up. If you struggle to find one at a reasonable price, find a decent exhaust shop and get them to modify your existing box to sound similar to the 135i or Performance boxes. Google it for more info, lots have done this on the forums.

[@18837ven]

How does the 125i compare to your 330i? Especially steering and gearbox feel

[@jmvfrva]

My 09 128i 6MT. Best car that I've ever owned for absolute fun driving. i'm 62 and I have owned 26 cars.

[@techncraig3713]

Could you tell me do 125i get timing chain failures ?

[@spikeblakemore]

@@techncraig3713 not as much as the n47

[@Szirmai4444]

@@techncraig3713 no, not an issue, really reliable car

[@oliverodonoghue5092]

I’m 20, last week I brought a 2006 325i manual. One owner 72,000 miles, full service history. 2.5k. Absolutely love it

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Congrats, great car

[@markpatterson1109]

Anyone else sit on autotrader looking at every car James gives a positive review of or is it just me? 😂 was close to buying an old Jag now I want a 125i convertible 😂

[@robertiddon]

Was looking at a tidy X Type AWD 2.5 V6 two days ago, now my brother's selling his 125i and i'm tempted!

[@GrooveTasticThang]

I have owned a 125i msport cab for 7years- came out of a 3.2 Boxster S- I’ve had the 280hp remap - they are great cars, very engaging and agile-engine sings and is smooth- doesn’t burn oil- easy to toe and heal- steering nice and direct- seats get nice and low- roof down and you still have plenty of space in the boot- I’ve kept it too long as it’s such a great little car- downsides are the ride can be crashy on the run flat tires and the upright windscreen makes it windy in the back roof down ( wind blocker helps front seats) - I think of it as a modern e30 125i

[@PatrickLindemann22]

@@robertiddon I think I’d go for It man! I like that this isn’t trying to be anything it’s not...not a race car, just a fun comfy enough car for the street. I’ve strayed from BMW after my current car (E60 550i, which the maintenance is absurdly expensive) but hopefully he’s right that the motor in this isn’t unreliable.

[@rb6978]

I had a 135 coupe for 5 years. Best car I’ve ever had

[@arrancooke5948]

Owned one for over 3 years now. The stock power leaves a little to be admired but there are maps out there that will bring you up to the 280hp that the hatchback 130i produces which makes it a joy to drive. A very fun car indeed and the noise is exceptional. Not had a single issue since I bought it.. solid car especially for its price tag.

[@milanvondrich9749]

Damn I plan on buying one, where can one find one of these glorious maps?

[@Rob_wheeldon2002]

Let me know what it’s like nowadays if still no problems? And are you open to selling?

[@carl-emilchristensen3738]

Hey i recently picked up one, and am a bit confused. Is all the car needs is a tune or do you also need the 3 stage intake manifold to upgrade the power? Thanks in advance.

[@mattdebyl8806]

@@carl-emilchristensen3738 you shouldn’t need to change manifold if you have a 125i. It was just factory detuned. If you have a U.S. 128i then yes, supposedly you do.

[@SteezyG]

One of these remapped in convertible form was always a hidden gem, straight 6, top down and 130i power unlocked very easily.

[@carl-emilchristensen3738]

Hey i recently picked up one, and am a bit confused. Is all the car needs is a tune or do you also need the 3 stage intake manifold to upgrade the power? Thanks in advance.

[@SteezyG]

@@carl-emilchristensen3738 it's a 100% copy of the 130i engine. Its only an electronically detuned

[@magnusdrives]

The N52 is an absolute gem. When with this over the 135i. No regrets. Previous owner was a bit cheap on maintenance, but we got everything up to speed. Runs perfect with no faults now. It's such a joyful daily. All it needs is a remap to get the DISA to work better.

[@carl-emilchristensen3738]

Hey Magnus, Have you figured out wether all the car needs is a tune (or you also need the 3 stage intake manifold) to upgrade the power? Thanks in advance.

[@magnusdrives]

@@carl-emilchristensen3738 EUDM/AUS 125i's come standard with the multi-stage intake (DISA). So a reputable tuner should be able to unlock some hidden power. But I've not done anything yet. These are pretty rare over here in Malaysia, so I assume none of the custom tuners here have had any experience with these. Perhaps a remap from AA, OE or Evolve makes better sense.

[@alexandrestarinsky1055]

I have had a convertible 125iA for 12 years now and I will probably keep it for many more years. Perfect all around car.

[@dougrobinson8602]

Nice overview of the one series coupe. Anyone interested in one must remember that there is no such thing as a cheap used BMW! You will pay through the nose for the maintenance the previous owner deferred. If the car was well maintained, the owner will know they have a better than average example, and ask for recompense in their price. It is worth holding out for a car with a manual transmission and the M-Sport package. The seats alone are worth it. They are very supportive, yet comfortable for long drives. An M-Sport will also have a rear sway bar and slightly stiffer suspension, with staggered wheels. I beg to differ on JayEmm's recommendation of staggered wheel fitments. The car as delivered from the factory has a tendency to understeer, and wider rear tires only exacerbate this. A 135i with it's higher torque needs a bit more tire in back, but the 128i (as it is named in the USA) does well with a square setup, unless you are only after acceleration, in which case you'd need a limited slip differential anyway. One of the coolest things about this car is the ability to easily install suspension parts from the E90 M3. The stock rear subframe bushings are a joke, which is why the car is dicey when pushed hard. A set of M3 bushings are worth the considerable effort of installation. You will have to drop that subframe to get them in, though. The 125i/128i have a rabid following. They are the last of BMW's legendary N/A straight sixes. The size of the car is perfect, the driving experience is excellent, and the reliability is quite good if you commit to regular if not frequent maintenance. Expect oil leaks and coil pack failures. The electric coolant pumps should be regularly replaced, as well. Other than that, they are quite solid.

[@Msalaspotja]

I’ve been waiting for you to review this car. Thanks James

[@cameronanderson8580]

Just bought myself a 125i convertible (E88), best decision I’ve ever made

[@samcourt6228]

I bought one for my other half in January. It’s a lovely little thing and I nick the keys as often as possible.

[@craigroberts3732]

I go the same, glad I did not get 135i (not reliable)

[@bwdrives]

me too! considering the remap though as it feels a little slow sometimes

[@klasseact6663]

There is NO alternative to that shirt James☺

[@miff227]

I did wonder what happened to my 6 year old's stolen duvet cover....

[@colinmeechan587]

It’s got ‘pyjama jacket’ wrote all over it

[@miff227]

I wonder if we made these shirts mandatory clothing for the incarcerated, would prisoner outcomes change for the better?

[@mabskha7917]

When I was 21 years old,back in 2004. I didnt know a single lad who had that sort of money 🤣 5k to 7k is alot of money. Times has changed

[@klasseact6663]

@@mabskha7917 I'm thinking James grew up in a different part of town and to that I say it's all relative. ☺

[@yankee2yankee216]

I feel the same about my 128i... which has the 6, a buttery smooth 6-speed and good reliability. Which is to say, I love it.

[@acasserole9558]

I think 125i's and 128i's are the same car but 128i is for the American market? Unless you know of any differences?

[@lordofkiwi5144]

@@acasserole9558 128i got the N52B30, no major differences with the 125i, something like 10 more hp.

[@GhostGhosty]

@@acasserole9558 128i is the US market version. It can come with one of two engines: - N52B30, has a 10.7:1 compression ratio, rated for 230 hp and 200 lb-ft torque at the crank. This version is the most common in the US. It can be bumped up to 250 hp by installing the 3-stage DISA intake from the single-year 2006 E9X 330i. - N51B30, physically the same as the N52 but with a 10:1 compression ratio (reduced to improve emissions). This version was sold in states that had the SULEV classification at the time (mainly California). It was fitted with the 3-stage DISA intake from the single-year 2006 E9X 330i to bump the power up to 230 hp and 200 lb-ft torque at the crank. They make the same power as a stock N52B30 engine. This is technically the lowest-spec E82/E88 sold in the US. The other spec that was sold here was the 135i which came with either the N54B30 (twin-turbos) or N55B30 (single twin-scroll turbo). We never got the 4-cylinder or diesel versions of the car, though we did get about 1000 examples of the 1M released only for the 2011 model year.

[@MetalHead1904]

I like these in coupe form. Reminded me of older beemers!

[@yugen0o]

I own a 2008 128i and it's still great fun without drawing any unwanted attention. Manual, M-Sport, leather. No iDrive, no exploding turbos, no electric steering, no car payments, cheap to insure, plenty of room in the backseat for the kids, a nicely sized trunk and these now sell for more than what I paid for it used ~eight years ago.

[@MVH198]

yeah, I fell in love with the design and started looking for anything from 120i and up, prices are pretty deep for honestly the little car you get... still want one tho

[@coastalrider1155]

I have a big soft spot for the e46 platform there still very good looking car even to this day

[@arthurveldhoen3932]

Your point about the M-cars is spot on. If you want a sportscar, buy a Porsche. If you want a sporty daily, get a straight six non-M bmw.

[@Psrrrraj]

Bmw 135 N54 owners... Well yes, but no... N54 owners reading this: well I change my oil every 5 miles and I’ve never had an issue blah blah

[@rileyfletch]

@@Psrrrraj Haha yea I think you've gotta prepare yourself if you decide to take the 135i over 128i, the maintenance is rough. I'm plenty happy w my inline 6

[@medstudent2667]

I dont think id buy another bmw haha, pretty happy with my 125i. i love the bmw NA variants, the only likely M car id buy is the m3 e92 with the v8, not a big fan of turbos.

[@ermanngies1914]

"oh, blimey" fund. Man I cracked up

[@timbutton4990]

Very sensible! talks sense

[@ClapOnNova]

Fun fact the 125i actually had the 3L version of the n52 for its entire life. Not an N53 like the 3 series.

[@johanwikstrom5671]

Same goes for the 130i. I always thought the 125i had the 2.5l N52 but apparently not

[@samcourt6228]

And it’s easily taken to 130i power with a remap. Unlike the 3 series, the power reduction is through mapping and not changing manifolds etc.

[@aa7h911]

@@samcourt6228 And because of its gearing (firs to second gear), when remapped the 125i is actually a litter faster (0-60) than a 130i.

[@aa7h911]

@Zombie Head As far as I know, LCI 130i uses MSV80 which is the same as the 125i. I've had my 125i remapped on a true dyno (not a happy dyno) and it made 269 which is more than the 130i. 272 is from the N53 which came in the 3 series and I suspect thats due to direct injection. But 1 series are about 80kg's lighter in comparison though.

[@techncraig3713]

Could you tell me some info on the 125i please I intend to buy one? Do they get timing chain failure ? What do I look out for when buying one ect ?

[@martinlaver007]

Sorely miss my 130i. That engine was a genuine masterpiece.

[@davidnichols1564]

Enjoyed the video. I've had one for 5 years now. They benefit from fitting the E90 M3 front Camber and Toe arms. Also the BMW Performance rear bump stops help settle the rear more. They allow more travel in the dampers, making the ride much better.

[@sonnynudds7962]

Agreed! My first ever car was an E92 325I. 2009 so had the N53B30A engine, absolute wonder, no mechanical issues and sung like angles at heavens gate, amazing to drive. Now i have a E92 335i. E92 are the most beautiful cars IMO

[@LeCrocTPMK]

I'm with you there💯🔥

[@alloush5995]

n54 or n55?

[@cohenday1377]

I just bought a 2010 125i 6 speed 3 weeks ago, my first car. It is just perfect.

[@tlennox53]

This actually is my first BMW too! Just taken it for a tour of Snowdonia. It's a superb mini gt & perfect for uk b roads. Thanks for the vids James.

[@samcourt6228]

These have aged superbly in my opinion and Le Mans blue is a gorgeous colour. They’re a nicely proportioned little thing. The N52 is a glorious thing and is easily taken to 130i power with a simple remap. They have a few weak points; electric water pumps are pretty expensive and they’re getting to an age where they start to leak; oil filter housing, oil cooler, rocker cover and sumps are the main points that your oil likes to escape. Removing the CDV makes a huge difference to the clutch feel and gear change and is free to do.

[@YocoWheelin]

Hmm, I haven't heard of removing the CDV. In fact idk what that is, but I'm going to look into it as I feel like the clutch feel is "odd" in mine.

[@p1fly]

@@YocoWheelin yes basically gets rid of a slow release clutch valve and brings with it a more positive clutch engagement and no clutch drag on quick changes

[@carl-emilchristensen3738]

Hey i recently picked up one, and am a bit confused. Is all the car needs is a tune or do you also need the 3 stage intake manifold to upgrade the power? Thanks in advance.

[@mommaduck79]

@@carl-emilchristensen3738you’ve probably got your answer by now - but the euro spec 125i already has the stage 3 intake. It’s literally the 130i engine and just needs a tune.

[@Tear_A2]

Great video! I personally have owned a 125i Coupe BMW edition for over 2 years now, and I absolutely love it. Not my first bmw , and having owned an M Sport 1 series 2015 in the past I can confirm that this car is miles more fun to drive on a B road or motorway cruising. Never had any issues with the 125i although mine is very low mileage and has full service history with a bmw specialist who’s known the car from new. There are very few cars I would swap my 125i for … maybe a 1 M Coupe of the E82 shape :D Some advice if your looking at a 125i , do not have run flat tires. They spoil the handling. Stick premium petrol in the tank once a month, my version performs really well with premium petrol in regularly. Get it service regularly also, don’t be cheap! It’s a very reliable block , it’s worth looking after as it will see you right into the future.

[@alexwright4430]

I can attest to the quality of those tyres. I put some asymmetric 5s on my 124 spider and they were transformative. Slightly cheaper than a pilot sports 4 and although they have less flat out dry grip, they're a more"fun" tyre.

[@jimboslice500]

Same here, transformed the ride for the better. Though cornering stability at speed was impacted.

[@giobarbarinimusic]

It's simple: I see a JayEmm video's up, I start watching it and hit the usually instant like

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Thankyou very much

[@StressKind]

I had one a couple of years ago and unless you regularly have to carry more than two people, this is near perfect. It's fun to drive in every situation - slow or fast and it looks (at least bit) sporty. For me it was the perfect compromise between sportiness and utility. It could carry my road bike with no trouble and would not complain about a trip to IKEA either. Also, fuel economy is not atrocious (as mentioned in the video). The engine is a masterpiece - I love it, so smooth, so much torque. However, I now drive a humble Kia Niro EV and sadly (only considering how power is delivered by the engine obviously) that makes even this wonderful R6 feel like stone age technology. Crazy...

[@ze4le937]

Provide the facts! The Diesel engines are perfectly fine as long as they have had regular oil changes. They’re very pokey too, and remaps can make them much more powerful than the 6cyl

[@acidmack1041]

Exactly...the online narrative always out ways the truth, there are far too many online horror stories about the diesel engines on this car without explaining the facts. As long as the car is well maintained with frequent oil changes like you stated then you shoudn't have a problem. Oil change every 7,000 miles and it will run well over 150,000 miles without issue. Also like you say with a decent remap a 118D will be just as fast or even faster than a 125i, sure the engines are a little louder but id take that any day over the extra £5,000 to £9,000 more you will pay for a 125i/135i

[@ze4le937]

@@acidmack1041 finally! Someone who respects the diesel beamers!! I have the 120d, and local tuning shops have quoted my car to get around 230hp from a £250 remap. With a new exhaust system and a DPF skin + stage 2 remap, you can get 260bhp and 350 ft lbs. pleeentttyyy for a little car like that. Think the highest tuned N47 diesel hit around 470bhp I think I read somewhere.

[@aa7n471]

Not necessarily. Yes regular oil does help the timing chain but the actual sprockets were the reason why the chains kept on snapping. An engine chain should not snap just because you didn’t change the oil. Hence, for new buyers I’ll stay well clear of the N47 and N43. I had my chain changed and kept the oil changes to every 6k or 6 months and after 3 years it started getting noisy with all the usual elongated chain symptoms.

[@ze4le937]

@@aa7n471 means your driving it too hard in 1st gear, or you have another problem.

[@MrScootmcg]

I looked for one of these about 6 years ago and they were rare then so must be like hens teeth now. Always liked the idea of a relatively large unstressed NA engine in a smaller car.

[@mitchellryan3762]

Try a 325ti compact with the M54. I’ve got a 6 speed sport and I love it. Always an occasion when it comes out of the garage and one of only a handful 6 speed sport models ever sold in the uk. 👍🏼I’ll never sell it

[@TheHesK9]

I so nearly got one of these, ended up with an M140i. But these still seem so interesting. Don't really care much about the power, it's the sound I like

[@dougrobinson8602]

Unfortunately the BMW performance muffler is no longer available. It sounds absolutely amazing at full song.

[@TheHesK9]

@@dougrobinson8602 I'm sure you can still find them on eBay

[@dougrobinson8602]

@@TheHesK9 Maybe, but they're asking stupid money for them. I love mine so much it will never be sold, unless the car gets scrapped!

[@ginj4ninj4180]

Yay! I just got a 125i E82 M Sport in Grey late February this year, to replace my Clio 200 and I'm absolutely loving it! It's a different car to the Clio for sure, and I miss the immaturity of the Clio, but it's great Edit: You mentioned not bothering with the I drive. I have the updated CIC idrive, and I added an android auto/Carplay box to it. Makes a world of difference to the usability of the screen!

[@cameronanderson8580]

What CarPlay box do you have? I’m looking for one now to update my current system in my 125i convertible

[@ginj4ninj4180]

@@cameronanderson8580 hey :) so do you have the CIC screen already? If so I got my box from Droid UK. It was £189. You can definitely get the same thing cheaper on AliExpress, but droid UK have a warranty/returns and their WhatsApp support service helped me great when I couldn't get mine working straight away. If you don't have the screen already they also have the android screens, but the prices aren't super competitive imo Edit: Also if you tell droid UK your car details like E81 and the year, then they'll set up the decoder for you. But if not, then on the little box flip decoder switch 3 and 4 on, with the rest off :)

[@simonlaland]

@@cameronanderson8580 I have a 2010 car with CIC and just installed the unit from Bavarian Automotive, only £189, delivered within a week, decent chat support and fairly easy to fit. Only had for 3 weeks, but works really well.

[@quoconut5788]

Is it better than ac128i & where can I find a good one

[@335DF31]

Got an e82 123d stage 2, quite fun at 260hp 460nm and 45mpg (19km/L). More fun than a 3series on the b roads

[@chrisogrady28]

BTW, I've extensively driven my 125i in the snow on P zeros in hilly sheffield and made way more progress than any other 'normal' cars. The trick is turn TC fully off and just stay in a continuous drift, it's very controllable and the N52 is quite happy to stay at high revs for long periods. My car is a cabrio so more rear weight than the other models, probably helped.

[@carl-emilchristensen3738]

Hey i recently picked up one (cab as well), and am a bit confused. Is all the car needs is a tune or do you also need the 3 stage intake manifold to upgrade the power? Thanks in advance.

[@chrisogrady28]

@@carl-emilchristensen3738 just a tune to get to about 260bhp, intake and exhaust can get to 280 I believe

[@mookmusik]

Ive gone the opposite way round...started with an E30 318i saloon then an E36 318i coupe then an E46 330 touring now i'm in a new ST! Very different driving experience. Don't regret it though, I was only getting 22mpg in the 330 compared to 38 in the ST (inc some spirited driving).

[@JordL98]

Have the same engine in my 3 series, absolutely love the N53 when it’s working as it should 🤣

[@MDjango]

In the 1series, its the N52

[@richardbentley1202]

Me too, I have a fat folder of receipts for mine but love it.

[@JordL98]

@@MDjango Oh fair enough I didn’t even realise there was a 3 litre version of the N52

[@JordL98]

@@DaleSteel power? Yeah. Reliability? No chance

[@valentijn9]

N52B30 is heavily overlooked as an engine in the E82.

[@ChrissyThePoo]

Jay, if you want another entry into this series give me a shout. 25 years old and I've just got myself a Megane RS 250.

[@bunkaaa8726]

How the hell are you affording the insurance at 25 haha

[@adampatterson4857]

@@bunkaaa8726 you must have done somthing very wrong if you can't insure pretty much anything at 25 lol

[@bunkaaa8726]

@@adampatterson4857 Broken family, severe depression and anxiety, almost no disposable income, low income family to start ?

[@jimmyjt16]

He's already reviewed a few 250's. Awesome car btw. I had one and loved it.

[@adampatterson4857]

@@bunkaaa8726 I can certainly level with you on the anxiety/depression front brother. Just have to stay in the fight i battle my demons everyday just trying to take it day by day really. I loved cars from i was no age, was lucky enough to have had a couple i always wanted i always found it was my little escape being able to get a little 'mod' done on one of my cars and getting a drive on a b-road to enjoy it. Just save what you can and keep working hard you will get the car you want, good luck 👍🏻

[@cvandenhaute]

I am in the US and here we had the 128i, with the N52 at 230hp. I believe that there is a significant difference with the 125i with the power steering. The 128i has a hydraulic unit while I believe that the 125i has an electric unit. The 128i with the sport pack and the manual was o e of the most underrated driver's car, an absolute joy to daily drive and did good on track days despite low power. Had it for 9 years... They start to go up in value here.

[@loneokami6560]

Pretty shure the 125i,135i and 1M are all with hydraulic steering

[@e28_m5]

Great overview on the E82 125i... bought one myself about 3 weeks ago and I'm absolutely loving it... Tax is a bit pricey and the current fuel costs are a bit painful when I fill it up but it's worth every penny- the N52 really dominates the whole driving experience, and I think makes it feel like a much more exotic and expensive car than it is. The refinement (you'd think it has start-stop, it's that smooth at idle) and the torque of the N52 makes it feel like a mini-GT at lower RPMs- and then you hit about 4000rpm and VANOS kicks in, at which point it just pulls, making the most incredible noise while it does so.... The fuel economy figures aren't horrendous either, I've been averaging about 30mpg in mine so far with a lot of driving around town and revving it out when I can. Insurance is silly cheap too, I'm 23, street park in the centre of Bristol, 6 years NCB and I'm paying £400 this year! One thing I will say- if you can get a car with CIC iDrive ('09 or later off the top of my head), it's well worth it. You can either fit a 'combox' (or buy an example with it as standard) which gives you full iPod/iPhone compatibility through a standard USB cable, (including album art, library search, etc) or you can purchase a box which will retain the standard iDrive but also give you Apple CarPlay/Android Auto functionality. Both really bring the car up-to-date, I feel for all the hate iDrive got the CIC iteration at least has aged incredibly well, and the function buttons and the controller make it one of the more ergonomic systems available- especially with manufacturers burying fairly basic options behind touchscreen menus...

[@bwdrives]

what company did you insure with if you don't mind me asking?

[@e28_m5]

@@bwdrives Sorry for the late reply mate... I'm currently insured with Admiral.

[@karmasutra12]

I have both the E82 125i and Toyota 86. Best fun Naturally aspirated rear wheel drive and reliable sports cars with light chassis that can be driven daily. Add the 10.25 inch touchscreen and 763M wheels.

[@G4meBust3rLP]

Which one is more of a daily driver? Are the backseats usable? I have trouble deciding which one of them I am getting

[@maxirwin7658]

my friend just bought one of these cars. Its a lot of fun. Im 6' 3" and I can't pretty comfortably fit in the back seat.

[@NMONEY56]

Ive had my eye on one of these for a very long time now

[@callumscott2650]

Due to this video I actually went on the hunt for one of these and I absolutely fell in love with the car. Found one with 55k miles, high spec and Edition Plus model too. That makes it, as far as I can find, one of only 72 in the UK that's an Edition Plus.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Awesome!

[@EdgyNumber1]

I do love this car. It reminds me of the E30.

[@MinerBill]

The heater must be good, ya still got ya pyjamas on 😂

[@time.dealer]

Funny you said that, cuz i have this car and the heater is blisteringly hot. The plastic coating on the climate vents is coming off

[@YocoWheelin]

Being that I own a '11 128i 6MT I can assure anyone watching this video or reading my comment you won't be upset with your purchase. I'm happy I got mine when I did though. Clean, stock examples in a manual are not only tricky to find (in the states) the prices have really gone up.

[@db9dbrs9]

Baby on the way. Just ordered a 125i plus a remap to replace my 2.7 cayman thanks to this video 🙏🏼

[@LITTLEMANADVENTURSES]

Best looking bmw by today’s standards in my opinion 👍

[@stefanbraem]

I understand the admiration for a car like this. It’s a daily companion that delivers consistent quality on many aspects, year after year. Call me a boring elderly, but if I’d had the money, I’d buy an E class estate with about 300 - 400 hp and loaded with options. A good ride, lots of comfort, safe and space. Lovely car!

[@Duncangafney1]

It's about cool cars for young people... your E-class would uninsurable and vastly more expensive to run..

[@J4cko999]

I had a CLS 500, was lovely but have a Fiesta ST now, way more fun.

[@Th3wobbler]

Almost as criminally underated as this car is this channel

[@jl2929]

Thanks for the review Jay! Owned one of these 125i for over 3 years now, great classic BMW feeling cars. Remap to the 130i power really changes the car for the good. Best 0 to 60 managed 5.4 - not bad for a 13 year old car 👍

[@bwdrives]

hey where did you get your remap done? And would you say it affects reliability at all

[@timmymallet3809]

How can you remap it and get to 130i power wen this car is n.a

[@bwdrives]

@@timmymallet3809 engine is the same as 130i but detuned on purpose so it wouldn’t compete with 135i on sales

[@timmymallet3809]

Bertie Wilkinson or Yh undrated are 130i love them don’t fink they will compare with 135i tho

[@jl2929]

@@bwdrives the engine is detuned from factory while being designed to take 270hp. Same engine/gearbox as 330i, 530i, 130i. Only difference is mapping, therefore reliability is the same. I'm based in UK so got it remaped at BW Chiptune, near Heathrow, London

[@rupertmiller4718]

I have had a love affair with BMWs since forever. My first and boy do I feel daft now for selling it, was a 1972 3.0CSI, many years later came a 328i coupe, 330i coupe sport and latterly a very humdrum 520d, which despite initial reservation has grown on me. I have loved them all. The 328 and the 330 were both more powerful, more fun and much more reliable than a company 944 I had in the mid 80s. The time has come for another one, possible a 325i or a Z4 maybe both! I'm not sure I agree with you about driving them in snow. I have driven all of them in snow on standard tyres and never felt too challenged. I think they have a reputation among people who can't drive rear wheel drives anyway. Yes a golf or fiesta might feel safer but not even a Discovery can defy the laws of physics as the one in the ditch on a bend half mile down the road from me duriong the beast from the east attested to; its all about feeling what the car is doing when you give it input and not hooning it when the conditions are poor.

[@neelparmar6690]

I have a 135i in the same colour, great car, mountains of power too!

[@time.dealer]

I have this exact car, but 128i automatic, cuz we have tons of traffic jams in my country. Nobody knows what it is, cuz everyone is used to seeing it as a hatchback and not as a coupe. A word of advice: make sure all the small trim pieces are still on the car before buying. They are super hard to find and cost a lot of money. 100usd for a 30cm door weather seal 😂

[@dc_0121]

I have a 128i with a manual transmission in crimson red, and I love everything about it, handles amazing, power is decent and with a muffler delete the n52 sounds beautiful

[@dougrobinson8602]

Sounds like my car. Crimson red manual with sunroof delete. I love it! It keeps me busy in the garage, though. Do the M3 rear subframe bushings. You will thank me!

[@Czechbound]

I drove 118i coupe convertible along the great ocean road in Australia. I thought it was great ! Living in Prague (best public transport system on the planet) I don't need a car, but if I move back to Blighty, I'd definitely buy a 1-series coupe. They're perfect !

[@georgeoprea3525]

Incredible review, Jay! The details on this clip are high standards and the honesty and great advices are almost illegal to share.

[@chrispaul220]

I have a 2013 128i in this blue color. It is a great car, reliable and fun to drive.

[@LuckMaker]

Used to have the 128i young and dumb I totaled it now I got a 135i and I’m so excited :)

[@bradcomis1066]

Test drove a 2009 128i a year ago and it was phenomenal. The dealer wouldn't give me the price I wanted so I wound up buying a really good example of an E36 328i from a friend and yet I have always regretted not buying that E82. 125i doesn't have DISA. That's probably why you're not feeling the torque you expect. The 130/330 has a 3 stage intake manifold that generates more power over a wider range.

[@magnusdrives]

Non-US spec 125i/128i are DISA ready. All you need is a tune to unlock 130i power.

[@geeteebloke1979]

And here's me thinking my old citroen AXGT was quick back in the 90's... young lads dunno just how good they have it now !!!

[@paulcs2607]

Oh Man! The AXGT. I loved mine and in those days a BMW was a dream.

[@theroddy]

First quick little car I got my hands on in the 90s. Absolutely bloody brilliant 😊

[@geeteebloke1979]

@@theroddy loved my old axgt's used to run a website called axgtworld many moons ago lol

[@LiamS94]

You're right about the snow thing. Don't go into work that day, just call in sick.

[@maddoxabernathy152]

I have an e88 128i convertible I love it to bits

[@seanfreeman7663]

I have my eye on an e82, however due to insurance it's only the 118d. But I still think it'll be a perfect and fun every day driver!

[@johnpathway8581]

Owned the SV8 you covered recently and I currently own a 125i coupe!

[@AlexanderCooper1]

I had the 330CI and it was in my eyes an amazing car and I miss it.

[@the8thvictim]

Diesel ones are an OK choice if you go with an N47D engine. I almost hit 200.000 kms with mine and it's perfectly reliable. One thing though, change oil every 10.000 kms, it's an essential part of the general maintenance, don't neglect it. During the winter months, especially if you live in colder countries, good winter tires are a must, this baby handles snow rather poorly, all season ones are quite okay too, but things might get sketchy. All in all, it's an absolute gem, highly recommended. By the way, in the case of a diesel version, soft remapping gives you a substantial boost in HP, however, try not to go too wild with it, as it will eventually strain the engine too much.

[@Uvall127a]

Im glad you did a piece of one of these. Im in my 5th year of ownership ( 59 plate ) and i adore it. And your review is very accurate also , MPG getting the run flats off etc. Only thing to watch on these is the gearbox. The Syncro's wear out and they bounce out of gear with a very loud bang. Thats a 2k repair. BMW wont sell parts so its a specialist rebuild. So if you test drive one , make sure you do a lot of stopping and pulling away a lot! Its something any BMW specialist garage will have good knowledge of . I drive mine spiritedly pretty much everywhere. Its been super reliable just keep up basic servicing. Its not over powered but keeping up at 5k and above its a lot of fun .. and how fast can you really go on British roads anyway. If you can pick a semi decent one up for 5k id take this over any hot hatch for that amount of money.

[@jonathanohagan1349]

thanks Jay, another reasonable and sound review.

[@robertiddon]

Has a hint of E30 about it, which I like

[@InertialDestiny]

Great review as always! Another car from this era I think is good value now is the Mk2 TT, in both the 2.0T and 3.2 VR6 guise.

[@clivebrackstone1896]

And frm 2010 the TT 2.0 ENGINE WAS MASSIVELY IMPROVED, YOU VIRTUALY GOT TTS POWER IN THE BASE CAR. AND MANY DNT EVEN KNW THAT FACT

[@TheMeagen]

I have owned a 2012 125i for about 8 months now and let me tell you, it is such a pleasurable drive. I have spent quite a fare bit of money to replace minor components in that time and there’s still a few things to be fixed so it’s really given me such a tough time but when it delivers, it really doesn’t compromise.

[@owenwishon9675]

Have you replaced failed parts or just preventative maintenance? Looking at getting one of these and trying to figure out general costs

[@TheMeagen]

@@owenwishon9675 I replaced the MAF sensor, the positive battery cable and the biggest thing I’ve had to replace were solenoid valves which I have heard can be expected after you pass 90km. Other than that a few electrical issues like the centre door lock and traction control button I’ve had problems with as well as some minor wiring issues. But all in all not too bad and loads of fun!

[@ShogunsDojo]

I would have had one when I was younger, but given that they had 3.0 engines from 2010 onwards they were a little difficult to ensure. Managed to worm my way into an M240i though so it all balanced out.

[@justinlawson1282]

I do much agree with vxr Connor , his statement hit the nail on the head !!

[@twistedsanity623]

Perfect timing on this video. I've been looking into getting one of these for the past 2 weeks because my friends are BMW fanboys and keep spamming me to get something like this instead of a turbocharged hot hatch like the Fiesta ST. This video and the fact that you can turn one of these into a 130i with just a remap sold it for me tbh. I've always been a little afraid of BMW because everyone says they are expensive to maintain and not the most reliable. After watching this video though and doing some further research, it seems that this is not the case with the older 6cyl engines, which I'm very happy about. The biggest challenge for me will be to find a manual one. The autos are everywhere but manuals are nowhere. Can anyone tell me if the autos are worth looking at?

[@acasserole9558]

Hey there, used car stock is slow in the UK currently so if you're patient a good car will come up. I waited about 3 months from this to come up after crashing my old clio. The auto's from talking to people they're reliable and good automatics however I drove a Mini with the same auto gearbox and really didn't enjoy it. If you can find any BMW or Mini of the Era to test drive you'll get a feel for the gearbox and can make your own mind up is my advice on that one.

[@twistedsanity623]

@@acasserole9558 thanks for the info. I'm sure I can find one somewhere to test drive

[@gerloczyek]

Don't get the auto please. No fun at all, makes the car very sluggish imo.

[@athousandtinycobras4349]

Love your videos mate, but the perfect first BMW is a MINI!

[@finnmarsh396]

had a 118d and adored it!!! traded for an r53 Cooper s, which met a tree, backwards.. and back in a 116i now. tip to anyone is definitely do NOT go for the 116! god I miss the 118

[@acidmack1041]

Ive got the 118D Sport Plus with a top spec remap...that thing can take on a 125i any day of the week 😂

[@ribbles1699]

When comparing this to an M car, your conclusion doesn't surprise me. I had a rwd 228i, loved it, figured an M240i (previous gen) would be a great upgrade. After a few months of getting used to the power difference, I realized how wrong I was. The _only_ time the M240 was more fun was in those rare 5-second sprints to "arrest me" speeds - the rest of the time I may as well have been driving a Buick. The 228i was a blast just running errands.

[@craigroberts3732]

I bought the 125i convertible as the 135i just does not have the reliability, so I agree with everything you said in the video (good review!)

[@zxgeorger]

I have a N54 135i coupe in Sedona Red for the last 6 years👌

[@acasserole9558]

Jealous - that red is insane, 135i's were the dream but they're double the price and can run into more issues having a turbo

[@smilepermile8165]

Enjoying these 'Fiesta ST alternatives for young guys' series. I wonder how the steering feel with this 125i compares with the hydraulic power steering in the E46 coupes... The N52 is appealing as the fairly lightweight block is made out of magnesium/aluminium. I don't know if its the exhaust design, but I prefer the deeper rumble from the E46 330ci's M54. Unlike modern BMW designs, I like how theres a single waistline that runs consistently from the headlight to the taillight. In the particular case with this 1 series coupe, I like how that waistline almost protrudes out and forms an angle like the old BMW 2002 and Lotus Cortina. Nice one.

[@lukebarber4904]

ive driven the 120dd m sport e82 with the n47 and that handles like a dream, can only expect the 125i.135i and 1m would be awesome. Perfect chasis weight distribution

[@smilepermile8165]

@@lukebarber4904 Thats great to know, must be a pretty fun car to drive whilst being able to not stop too much at the fuel station!

[@CM.243]

Ah, my first BMW. Was in 1996 e36 325tds. Great little car.

[@christianbohn9252]

Just bought a 3 series with the n52.. great motor, love it with the muffler and res delete ;)

[@Marcke-tb1hb]

I wish you were doing these when I was a first car buyer. Parents - insist your first-car kids watch James!

[@thomasbehr6952]

Thanks for reviewing this car. I really wanted one but could not find one that met my criteria and bought a 228i F22 instead. Still like this car though. Great review as always. I do enjoy your channel. Keep up the great work.

[@snoopdutt1985]

Hasn't the 130i gone now? I saw it pop up on a 130i forum with a new owner and then mysteriously disappeared as fast as it was posted.

[@mrmeredith5935]

yea there are no 130i e82 only e87 i think which is the hatchback version

[@snoopdutt1985]

@@mrmeredith5935 I was referring to James' own car he mentioned on the video and not the car featured.

[@mrmeredith5935]

@@snoopdutt1985 sorry, my bad

[@JayEmmOnCars]

Yes it has been sold

[@TimChump]

Wow that thumbnail is the cars best angle by far 👍

[@Bmwguy2011]

Extremely rare cars in the USA. I actually bought a 6MT with the M sport package, fully loaded, in silver/red interior. I think there are 224 of them made between 2006-2013. It’s a little bank vault on wheels, as one reviewer termed it. James did a brilliant job critiquing this car, spot on in all regards. Goodness, it feels as heavy and solid as a saloon 3 series, yet of course is profoundly nimble due to the wheelbase. It’s definitely a rare combination of quality fit, fully organic driving experience, but also very sedate too. The engine is, and ruminates, pure class, unrivaled by anything today, I feel. The new turbo 6’s like the b58 are technologically masterful. But you’re not enjoying the intake sound, exhaust rumble or responsiveness of a port intake / n/a manifold like this. I drove it home from Massachusetts to Colorado and had a blast. I hope never to sell it. I’m 5’7” and actually was able to fit in the rear seat without hitting my head, with no hat on. Someday I hope people will begin to appreciate this car as the last true organic BMW. It reminds me of what made life pleasurable before the globalists and environmental fear mongers ruined motoring, butter vs margarine, leather vs vinyl, 6 vs 4 cylinders, hydraulic steering vs phony electric, manual vs auto, rear wheel drive vs all, etc.

[@notroll1279]

This model looks like the legitimate grandchild of the 1970s BMW 02 series - and that's a very good thing.

[@pgr3290]

Petrol is king but for those needing frugality the E87 120d or 123d hatches are actually pretty nice. A 123d with a modest safe remap is 250 horsepower, well in excess of 300lb/ft torque. Rear drive offering up 45MPG real world economy plus only £155 road tax. Many have done star ship mileage which isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you find a nicely fettled one with 80k on the clock, might set you back perhaps around £3500-£4000. If you're aware of the timing chain issues and make sure you have a good clutch they are generally pretty solid- for a BMW!

[@marksmith7191]

Was waiting for this video. I was watching from the gully lorry. Good video. 👍👍

[@andrewodom6956]

Just got rid of my 123d coupe, some days I loved it some days I hated it. Probably the wrong engine. But a good looking car regardless.

[@GoldenCroc]

What didnt you like about it? I really liked mine. But I am not fussed about lag or revs.

[@andrewodom6956]

@@GoldenCroc mine had no service history and was a cat c I got it really cheap but I got too anxious driving it due to that niggling thought of the timing chain. Probably not the cars fault in the end haha!

[@GoldenCroc]

@@andrewodom6956 If you called BMW and talked to them, they did a cam chain inspection free of charge. Maybe not without service history though... They also put in a new updated cam chain tensioner at the same time, also free of charge. If the chain didnt measure to spec, they took out the whole engine and replaced the chain, also free of charge. This was in Sweden. On my two n47 engined cars, they only replaced the tensioner, the chains were found to be within spec. Too bad you couldnt keep it. Cheers.

[@RC-wb6gv]

Nicely done episode J 👍👌

[@originalrugsta3388]

3 Litre BMW. Anyone interested should probably check out the Car Wizard channel and his thoughts on these. Coil packs, PCV valves, Oil filter gaskets, Vanos, lots of expensive issues.. Having owned this engine I would suggest minimum full service history. Oil changes are vital preferably every 10,000kms. Avoid missing service history or anything thats just pootled around town with no/long oil change services. Without oil changes the oil-ways get clogged, pressure increases and you end up with oil leaks. Check the inside of the oil cap/rocker cover for sludge and walk away at any sign. Lovely but can be a money pit.