Titan vs Nexus | What makes the Nexus more expensive?

A comparison between our two top-of-the-range scopes, and a lengthly answer to a very popular question!
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[@realreviews2003]

Yep, I think that was about the most honest, informative and valuable explanation of these optics I've seen. I have to believe that very same principles would be true industry wide. This helps me a great deal in narrowing down exactly which Element optic I'm going to buy. Thanks!

[@tyroneclarke1666]

Explained beautifully Matt. 🇦🇺

[@timjohn2810]

Very pleased with my Nexus performance, ordering a second one come spring. Nicely done on explaining the differences. Thank you for taking the time to do so. From: Michigan, USA

[@rzage1]

I got the Titan as I don’t mind the extra weight , I love it , as the picture is super clear and it tracks great . Though I might have to get the Nexus as my Impact MK2 keeps getting heavier with all the add ons I keep adding . Lol ! Thanks Matt !!!

[@hotchihuahua1546]

Well presented , a few things you said leans me to the Nexus , the biggest is it’s manufactured in Japan ! Now to go shopping !

[@trulyhappy8855]

Brilliantly broken down. Great explanation

[@comeonsense2022]

Panther Hollow on KZbin has excellent side by side scope reviews and comparisons between scope brands. He is not one of the biased reviewers since he is actually a dealer for many scope brands he reviews and recommends at many different price points including Element.

[@drummerdavemax]

Thanks for making this video, Matt! At first, I thought the prices of the two scopes were swapped! ...Titan has higher magnification, & bigger turrets & tube, for 1/2 the price? But now, thanks to you, I know what's up! I bought a WildCat MKIII & Titan scope from Utah Airguns a few months ago & everyone was talking about how light the gun is, & I was like, "what is everyone talking about? ...this gun is a freaking tank!" Ha ha ha! ...that Titan doubled the weight of the gun, but I love it! It's the best scope I've ever used! Peace!

[@ksmha15]

Very good and clear explanation, thanks for that. To be honest, i now understand the difference but i do challenge if almost double the price Nexus is bringing enough to the table to make that difference pay off. As you say, some situations maybe and clearly when money is not a big priority. Getting the price lowered on the Nexus and getting it a bit closer to the Titan in my feeling will get the Nexus the better papers overall. Anyway, Merry Christmas and a safe and Happy new year from the Netherlands.

[@michaelguerin56]

Good video. Thank you, Matt. Many people fail to present such information with clarity. Good hunting.

[@noorhyattkhan5864]

Very nicely explained

[@jamesmooney5348]

Excellent explanation

[@karlm10]

When you just touch the Turrets, or the Parallaxeknob you just feel the Quality. Smooth as silk accurate. Also the Used Glastype is extreme good. In reallife, that means not a perfect bright sunny day and you dial up magnification, there is a loss of brightness but it is in very good acceptable range. Iam used to S&B PMII Standards and the Nexus is absolutly head to head with the Image quality, but for 50% off the Price. Very very lightweight and conpact. So if you want a real good lightweight compact fantastic imaging Scope, for a extreme fair Price the Nexus ist the choice. I use it on a AR-10 SPR .308 simply perfect up to 1000m in not laboratory-Benchrest conditions, that means carrying around and beeing flexible.

[@riccardocavaliere9737]

can you kindly tell me where you are getting the flip up end caps for the Nexus from please Matt ,as the Titan comes with them but the Nexus does not ....only a poor old cotton sock type thing, hopefully Element Optics are working on this as their flagship scope should have them. Great vids and content by the way.

[@20arda07]

Can you tell me what height acculite rings do I get for the Titan to just clear a full rail off the ESS chassis. I want the scope and the caps to be just clearing the rail.

[@PracticalTacticalAccuracy]

Being driven by air gunners, I'm curious if these scopes have a shallow depth of field like for field target shooting or a generous depth of field as needed to read mirage at longer ranges.

[@redrock425]

Seems a fair assessment to me. More choice is always better. I'll be trying a Titan out on my .308.

[@carlkubena6109]

can i get flip up scope cap for my nexes scope

[@royyoung5731]

I decided that I would go with the Titan since I bought the maverick sniper. the longer barrel meant I wouldn't have to walk as far so the extra weight of the scope didn't matter.

[@paullogan8329]

how is the eye box?

[@allenhaymond5934]

WHAT SCOPE WOULD YOU USE ON THE FX IMPACT 25CAL FOR HUNTING AND BENCH REST SHOOTING AND THINKING ABOUT COMPLETING IN MATCHES

[@goodboyringo9716]

What rifle brand is on the table ?

[@ellobo1326]

I have an Impact M3 ordered. I think I’ll go with the Titan. Hell, China has a rover on Mars now also. And I’d bet their assemblers don’t dare show up to work drunk, stoned, or hung over.

[@nhaep3899]

Làm cách nào để vn mua đc kính này vậy

[@barrysmith7409]

Mat just a quick question about the element optics scope I do a lot of night shooting so I was wondering if there is some sort of illuminated turret top that will help see the settings at night as I have to turn on my head torch to see and tgat alerts the rabbits

[@barrysmith7409]

Thanks for the swift responce

[@barrysmith7409]

I'm new to this air gunning but I have purchased a titan it's not arrived yet but I'm putting it on my walther rotex rm8 varmit yes I know a but 12ft/lb in England so will not be shooting long range yet just need to know what will the best mounts be to use with this gun and scope combination please

[@nathanwilkening]

I use the seekins presision rings on my titan and they work beautifully

[@mochahary3507]

How much in India prices

[@jackdaniels7913]

Well $hit... I was dead set on the top of the line "top shelf" but now I'm back on the fence because I don't mind that bigger size bell and tube "horsepower is my friend 😉 6.2L V8 in a GMC sierra Denali 1500" 😈 although my FX-Impact dose deserves the best... although it looks like I can't really go wrong either way!?!?! 🥃cheers🍻

[@m118lr]

Well...there IS a difference actually. JAPAN...or china?! Japanese ALL day long...

[@jackdaniels7913]

Such a valid point! Can't truly argue that one I can be retarded and try but really we both know that's a losing battle

[@aslanbosnakoglu8240]

why dont you make a straight power 10x42 with target turrets for like 200 300 euro?

[@iwanKENSHIN]

Wow 👍👍

[@commonsense5709]

Did anything regarding country of manufacture change recently early 2023? Are the Titans and Helix scopes now made in Japan? There seems to be some discrepancies regarding some Amazon customer reviews stating they are made in Japan and not China. Thanks for the clarification.

[@ElementOptics]

No, nothing has changed. Any reviews stating otherwise are misinformed!

[@commonsense5709]

Anyone else experience turret lock up or have extreme difficulty to turn them in colder temperatures?

[@lankymk]

4:15 psycho watches, guna have to keep an eye out for that watch brand 😛😋😉😁

[@UseVisine]

I had to rewind that. Lol. But yeah, glad to see Seiko mentioned even just in passing. Seiko (Grand Seiko), Nomos and Tudor are some of the best watches that are finally starting to get more recognition. Too bad it's raising the prices too.

[@stephenshelley5843]

I have 3 Element scopes. I have one Titan and two Helix scopes. I would like to put one of the Helix scopes on a spring piston power air rifle. Is this possible.

[@comeonsense2022]

They are supposed to be springer rated scopes and should carry hassle free lifetime warranties so go for it.

[@rammersandtwangers]

Yes have the helix 4-16x44 on both my rammer and twanger 🤠

[@stephenshelley5843]

Are the Element Helix scopes rated for spring piston power air rifles.

[@comeonsense2022]

They are supposed to be designed for airguns including springers so go for it especially since they should have hassle free lifetime warranties.

[@rammersandtwangers]

Yes, have them on both my rammer and twanger 🤠

[@henryhenry5897]

Are internals metal or plastic ? And would u say it comes close to a Nightforce nx8? It’s ist 1/3 Less than a nf I like the nexus for the more compact design for hunting really on the fence nexus or nx8

[@commonsense5709]

You should at least personally handle and look through both Nightforce NX8 and Nexus at the same time before making such expensive purchases. Nightforce has a long history of being reliable and durable scopes. Element is still relatively new. If you go for the Nightforce NX8, their 4-32x50 is much better choice compared to the 2.5-20x50 NX8. Personal preference, I prefer the 8x zoom magnification over 4x zoom scopes for more useable range of magnification. I also prefer 6x zoom magnification over 4x zoom as well. Just for having more useable range of magnification that gives the extra edge in the field. For example, I'd prefer to use my 4.5-27x Athlon Ares BTR instead of my 6-24x Athlon Midas Tac based on this reason and both have similar weight and equally superb glass. I also prefer my Tract Toric ELR 4.5-30x56 with 6x zoom over my two previous Tract Toric LR 4-20x50 with 5x zoom which I ended up parting with and prefer the 6x zoom and higher magnification capability as another example. The higher magnification Tract Toric ELR 4.5-30x had noticably nicer image quality compared to the 4-20x at mid magnification when they were compared side by side at 20x as well. If you go with the higher top magnification you can always back the magnification down at any time.

[@commonsense5709]

The Nexus is $300 less than the Nightforce NX8 4-32x50 when you buy from certain dealers that offer good discounted prices when you call them or make offer from places such as Scopelist and Eurooptics. Their difference in price isn't 1/3 it's only a couple hundred bucks.

[@cohibadad]

I was just about to Google Psycho watches, then it dawned on me.

[@TungLe-lv3on]

Now some reviews about that rifle please. Lol

[@modernshootinglongrange8131]

I hear the turrets on the Titan are mushy

[@kermit2999]

Horsepower all the way!

[@Docleegb]

BMW vs Dodge Viper

[@20arda07]

So is the glass in the titan from China entirely, please simplify

[@comeonsense2022]

The Titan and Helix are 100% Chinese through and through.

[@commonsense5709]

Don't knock made in China. The Athlon Midas Tac 30mms (but not the 34mm 5-25x56 due to QC problems) and Ares BTRs are fantastic Chinese made scopes as well as some of the Bushnells.

[@davidsutton7632]

I’ve just spent a lot of money in the UK to buy a Nexus Gen 2 … Look through the glass of both and you’ll clearly (get it😂) see the difference - This post isn’t needed 🤷🏼‍♂️😁👍🏻

[@Alis_Hunts]

Still the question is that why did you reduce the magnification on the nexus by 5 times ?

[@lankymk]

Officially, don't know. Unofficially, maybe it helps to keep cost lower because the Nexus will cost notably more to produce. I would suggest, the smaller front end usually means a smaller max mag (general rule, most manufacturers seem to do this, assumably for the following reason) plus more mag isn't necessary better, the titan at 25 mag has a 2.24 exit pupil but the Nexus at 20 mag has a 2.5 exit pupil. Be interesting what the official reason is.

[@patthewoodboy]

if you have a problem carrying the "extra" weight , you have serious issues , its less than a Kilo

[@rockyourfaceoff2]

When a seller has to spend time explaining why you pay twice the money for a marginally better scope, and keeps bringing up the size and weight as the main point along with man hours developing it. I feel like I was talked into it. Now I wish I'd bought the Titan. At least I'd have scope lens covers instead of a useless scope coat. BTW, I asked about buying a set of lens covers for my nexus. $129.99 but hey! You get free shipping. Sorry Matt, the nexus isn't twice Value of the titan. It's just my opinion ,others may see it differently.

[@ElementOptics]

That is unfortunately the “law of diminishing returns”, yes there is not a massive difference between the form and function of the two, but the small improvement is challenging to achieve and requires a lot of expertise, time and effort.

[@rockyourfaceoff2]

@@ElementOptics thank you. So far this is the most satisfactory explanation I've heard. I am mostly happy with my Nexus APR-1D. It is a quality optic. Though, if I were to stay within the Element family for another, I'd choose the Titan. I feel it's the "best bang for the buck" option. Cheers 🍻

[@chrxnohhxoxo3255]

Tract toric 4-20x50 is the best

[@comeonsense2022]

That Tract Toric is a very nice Japanese made scope with German Scott glass. I had 2 of then and later upgraded to their 4.5-30x56 and their 4-20x50 are priced closer to $1000 with law enforcement or military discount too. Still a fantastic value at $1294 regular price. I think the Brownells 5-25x has always been the best deal out there for a quality Japanese made scope even for its $999 regular price.

[@commonsense5709]

I was looking to buy an Element Nexus until a good friend of mine insisted I look through his cheaper Tract Toric 4-20x50 and Athlon Ares ETR before spending $1500 on a Nexus. He had a Nexus first and got rid of it after doing an extensive side by side comparison with the Toric and Ares ETR. He said it was night and day difference in regards to the optical quality and turrets. I would have loved to look through both to see what the big difference was for myself but he already parted with the Nexus and kept the Ares ETR and Toric. I looked through both of them and the Toric was still nicer.

[@commonsense5709]

I ended up parting with my 4-20x50 Torics and prefer the 4.5-30x56 Toric ELR which had much nicer image quality and a lot more total elevation travel. I also bought a Nightforce NX8 4-32x50. Enuff said.

[@lrighttobewhite]

They are both to expensive....!!!!🧐👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@james1795]

Opinions are like a$$ holes.....everybody has one.

[@comeonsense2022]

That's why many smart people do their homework before taking any expensive plunge. Go to your gun range make friends and ask to look through their scopes before making any decisions to buy anything. Most importantly, compare them with other different brands of similarly priced scopes at the same time. It actually saved me lots of disappointment by doing this.

[@commonsense5709]

Not when you buy them whenever they go on sale. They can actually be very competitive to the other good brands of scopes.

[@vannkaphanny4571]

How much brother ?$$

[@comeonsense2022]

$799 and $1500 and firstly, go and check out Panther Hollow on KZbin to help with your buying decisions. He is a dealer for Element and other brands of scopes. He does side by side comparisons reviews of several different brands of scopes. His scope cam comparisons are very helpful too.

[@hrxhamawandy7470]

😞😞😞😞

[@comeonsense2022]

Their Titan and Helix are both made in China while the Nexus is made in Japan.

[@nhaep3899]

Vietnam's

[@bsr7129]

What is the brand of the gun?

[@MrRockstar1968]

Shame the Nexus isn't 5-25.

[@comeonsense2022]

They probably wouldn't be able to compete with the Brownells version for $999.

[@MrRockstar1968]

@@comeonsense2022 I've never heard of Bromwells. I do know the Nexus is an exceptional scope for it's price though.

[@commonsense5709]

Have to disagree, certainly not at $1500 for a 5-20x50 scope with only a variable 4x magnification with much cheaper and better options available.

[@MrRockstar1968]

@@commonsense5709 The quality of the NEXUS which is 5-20x50 is far superior quality than the 5-25x50 TITAN, that's a fact as I have owned both. Therefore it is worth the money.

[@commonsense5709]

@@MrRockstar1968 Of course it should be better quality since it's comparing scopes made in China and made in Japan. Glad to hear you really like your Nexus. As a personal preference I prefer the Nightforce NX8 4-32x50 for a few hundred bucks more which has an 8x zoom ratio vs a 4x zoom ratio and weighs around the same and has more total elevation travel. I bought the Nightforce NX8 around the same time 2 of my other shooting buddies bought their Nexus scopes but it wasn't much of a fair comparison and I still own my NX8.

[@rudychavira5558]

price range was good for me, lost me at china

[@comeonsense2022]

Unfortunately most sub $1000 scopes are more than likely to be Chinese made. If you are specifically wanting sub $1000 non Chinese made scopes, the Japan made Brownells 5-25x for $999 regular price and the various much cheaper priced SWFA SS, Clearidge (very affordable Japan made scopes direct from Clearidge or cheaper from eBay) or Phillipine made Vortex PSTs gen 2 on sale almost half off at Midway now for $599-$679 regularly $899-$999 if you can make do with a 20 or 25 yard minimum side focus. There's also the Sightron STACs from Camera Land for half price sale now and made in Phillipines too and the ones without the zero stop are on sale for super cheap.

[@comeonsense2022]

If you want non biased scope reviews on both Chinese and Japanese made scopes, I'd recommend watching Panther Hollow on KZbin. He is a dealer for many different brands of scopes he reviews and compares them directly to each other and has scope cam videos of their image quality for side by side comparisons. He even rated some scopes he did comparisons with that doesn't even sell or make any profit from much better than the brands he actually sells. That's really honorable to me and worth watching based on honesty.

[@Schlumpfblau]

Titan made in China Nexus made in Japan

[@soundcrazy9802]

the difference is that your nexus is faulty. Period.

[@Levon0083]

In so many words Japanese are smarter then Chinese ya?

[@comeonsense2022]

Chinese are much smarter. They really know how to make a lot of profits. Japan is more quality oriented. It is the consumers' responsibility to do their own due diligence before committing to buying any specific brand. There are a wide variety to choose from and some may actually be worth the money well spent.

[@Pew_pewchronicles]

Blah blah blah Johnny-come-lately brand it’s all marketing. Get a Tract Toric and it will wipe the floor with element Optics