Titanic Conspiracy: The Full Truth | Part One

In the 1990s a new and explosive theory emerged, championed by an authour and enthusiast from England. Robin Gardiner proposed that Titanic never really sank at all; that in April 1912 it was actually the ship's sister, Olympic, that sank as part of a plot to cash in on insurance for the beleaguered owner of the liners, the White Star Line. Flash forward to today and the theory has picked up speed in recent years in online forums and social media; so what is the truth? What actually happened in 1911 and 1912? In this two part series we'll examine the facts as they stand; the photo record and plans to establish what happened to Olympic. We'll speak with renown naval architect and engineer Dr Stephen Payne, designer of many passenger ships, notably the Queen Mary 2. We'll try to set the record straight on Gardiner's theory and reveal the truth behind the great Titanic conspiracy theory; the greatest fraud in modern historiography.
LINK TO PART TWO: • Titanic Conspiracy: Th...
Research for this video was provided by authours and historians Bruce Beveridge and Mark Chirnside. With special thanks to Stephen Payne.
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0:00 Intro
3:57 The History of the Switch Theory
10:47 Analysing Olympic's Damage
19:11 Naval Architect Stephen Payne on Olympic's Damage
23:35 Analysing the Insurance Fraud

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

I hope you all enjoyed this video! 🛳🛳 LINK TO PART TWO: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHu3k5acfb5md7c

[@Irobert1115HD]

heyo good sir i know this is a weird question but do you know the surface area of titanics hull?

[@justinlynch3]

I just saw this documentary "Last Hours Of The Titanic - Titanic: A Dead Reckoning - Documentary". They posed that the idea that the mystery ship the Californian was blamed for being, was actually a ship called the Mount Temple. This seemed like a good place to put a comment. But what do you think of that idea that Californian wasn't the only ship near Titanic that night? If you go by what that doc says the Temple was close enough for people to see Titanic at one point, maybe even lifeboats too. But the Temple's captain lost his nerve and abandoned the scene. Apparently one of Titanic's officers reported seeing the mast lights of a ship where the masts were close together, an identifying trait of the Temple. I dunno if you've heard of this theory before, pretty sure it's my first time hearing about it, at least that I remember. It reminded me of this conspiracy video you did. I don't know if anything you'd be interested in. But I thought I'd mention it anyway.

[@lord_vader6545]

Hey! It’s our friend, Mike Brady, from Oceanliner Designs!

[@sydneymomma11]

Whaddya know, Mike Brady is *my* friend, too! Does that mean we should be friends, too?

[@Emperor.Palpatine]

​@@sydneymomma11 no

[@NonsensicalNauticalRambings]

This is the fourth time I’ve seen this comment reach the top of one of these videos comment section. Please, get creative. We all know Mike Brady is our friend from Ocean Liner Designs.

[@murph64]

@@NonsensicalNauticalRambings People are just havin fun

[@leighmenzie5904]

​@sueydneymomma11

[@rising_crust]

That guy who got his face in the photo of the Olympic’s damage probably never thought we’d be seeing it over 100 years later on KZbin. Iconic picture!

[@emmimiller3677]

I love that you say "probably" allowing for the small chance the guy did consider it being immortalised through a mass communication media un-seen at the time 😂

[@TheMysteryDriver]

"People are going to see this at home on their nickelodeon machines one day"

[@paulbolton2322]

He's an Olympic photo bomber 🎯 old school☝️

[@sabrinanascimento5248]

🚢🤔♻️🤔🚢

[@helenstillman-dk7jm]

Ahhh but author wasnt allowd2bring it out until he did 2 prevent any backlash - no-one ever forseen how now "no-one listens 2 the truth" how this new "conspiracy theorist" word would take over the truth

[@RipperSport]

"We can build ships from scratch but we can't patch this hole." - Harland & Wolff

[@pc_buildyb0i935]

This needs more upvotes

[@danielkirkland3366]

They could easily have fixed but they literally had no money left

[@pc_buildyb0i935]

@@danielkirkland3366 That is so far away from truth we're literally past the point of opposites. Harland & Wolff were in a gentlemen's agreement for blank cheques and modular schedules given by White Star, and White Star's net worth in 1911 was several million, which for the time, is in the black and adjusted for modern inflation is remarkably profitable.

[@timsimms65707]

LOL 🤣

[@iwanaGoFast2010]

No need to when you can just switch the ships. And if you question the switch like many do, my great great grand cousin was on the switch team. Code named operation switch.

[@rager1969]

The fact that the hundreds or thousands of workers involved would need to keep quiet sinks the theory.

[@naughtiusmaximus830]

Worked for TWA 800 and 9/11. A few people turned up dead. I don’t buy it with the Olympic though.

[@fmyoung]

That's right, just under 15,000 of them

[@yamato6114]

It’s the same thing with the moon landing. Y’all want to tell me that ALL those NASA workers were willing to keep quiet, and not one of them came forward to blow the whistle?

[@Kolonol1]

It's pretty easy actually....how do they keep thousands of people quiet about a shadow government for almost a hundred years? Yet it's finally coming out and CNN and NBC have admitted it and it's no longer a conspiracy theory. So why is this so unbelievable? Especially since the British government was involved and the royal family was invested. They have actually recently declassified several documents hinting at a switch with the Titanic and Olympic. I wish KZbin would stop censoring links or I would share them.

[@angr3819]

It wasn't very many, and the few it was did the change of portholes and who put the name plate on certainly weren't going to speak up. If not lynched, then prison. Although it seems at least guilt got the better of one or more of them and they told after all, but of course it was even easier still to smother the truth. Remember this because as we older people are buried, our learning and knowledge is often buried with us. I completely believe it was that it was swapped for the Titanic because the Olympic was damaged and there was no claim on insurance for it. Reportedly, a few men worked over the weekend to change the portholes and put on a nameplate over the word "Olympic". Indeed, at that time the name of the ship was always painted directly on to the sides. There might still be a video which was made of the wreck of the so called Titanic with the nameplate broken with one half fallen away and showing some of the name Olympic beneath. Look up the maritime accidents of the Captain. Why would they have put him in charge of the true Titanic? An alcoholic who had already damaged the Olympic and more. It seems it was his fault the Olympic and the ship it crashed into was previously damaged to the point of disrepair to meet sea worthy standards of the time. I read that a lot of the workers on board disembarked before it finally sailed for the US. They realised it was the Olympic. A call went out for replacement workers and the company lied they were striking for greedily wanting more pay. Unfortunately, many of those who took the jobs were foreign and didn't understand English enough when the original workers tried to warn them, and those who did understand English were told it was a lie to stop them taking the jobs. As for the deaths of those who were going to vote against the Federal Reserve, it was probably not intended they would actually die. Remember there was another ship close enough to reach them in time, but its Captain ignored the distress call because they were working for rival companies. The excuse was that the Captain of the nearby ship thought it was a ruse to divert them and ensure the "Titanic" reached the US first. Also there were enough lifeboats for the first class passengers, especially as the steerage passengers had been locked below! Many of the early boats were barely half full. It was pig headedness not to allow men or steerage passengers on the early boats with so much room to spare. Reportedly, a lot of the first class passengers wouldn't believe the "unsinkable" so called Titanic could sink until the situation was obvious, and that was why they wouldn't get in the boats at first. In addition, I read that it wasn't intended it would hit an iceberg. There was something planned to be done quite further along and a unexpected ship was seen simply not moving. Waiting to pick up at least first class passengers? Some accounts of survivors have said about hearing the "Titanic" hitting the iceberg. Others said they didn't hear it and didn't think it actually did hit it. Who knows what really happened? The bulk heads didn't go to the top as they are supposed to, so when not only one or two compartments were flooded with the water spilling over the top of the bulkheads, five of them became flooded. Probably cost cutting to not using so much metal to ensure water wouldn't spill over the top of one bulkhead to another. Not planned nor foreseen, as it was probably the same on a lot of the ships at the time. That the shareholders would die was probably not the intention. The delay would have been enough to ensure they weren't present for the vote. More likely it was a matter of not caring too much of they did die but it wasn't the explicit intention. Of course whether others died didn't matter to those who planned it. When the overly rich and far too powerful do a thing, especially a big thing, it is usually for more than one reason. Remember though that the shareholders who were going to vote against the Rothschild plans, weren't necessarily going to vote against because they had the public interest at heart. They might have had other reasons, such as the Rothschilds gaining far more power than they themselves would have. Perhaps they wanted a better deal for themselves. I doubt we will ever know their reasons but they were unlikely to have been very conscientious about the average Jo and Joanna Blogs. My 1920 father heard it was the Olympic when he was young. Of course his parents, my grandparents, were old enough to remember it when it happened, and word got around those days even without it being in the papers, and people not having TV's, radios or the Internet. From the way my father spoke, it seemed it was quite common knowledge but of course never officially admitted to. Reportedly, a number of very rich and powerful people mysteriously cancelled their tickets shortly prior to the sailing. The word was that they had received a warning to not go on. Didn't we hear a number of ()ewich people were telephoned on the morning and told to not go to work at the Twin Towers? Probably not all ()ewich people, not the poor and 'inconsequential'.

[@areoborg]

One of the biggest red flags for the conspiracy, at least for me, is that if the Olympic couldn't be repaired and made safe for travel, how did the Not-Titanic then get certified as being safe for travel before embarking on her maiden voyage?

[@Crazyman23]

Can't forget she outlived her sisters too. For being so bad she had to be scrapped she did float on for a while. Almost witnessing a second world War.

[@foxymetroid]

​@@Crazyman23She probably would have lasted at least a few more years had it not been for the Great Depression.

[@vincentsebastiano1058]

I was just going to post the same comment lol. Are we expected to believe the Board of Trade inspector was also in on the plot? The Olympic rammed and sank a German sub a few years later and wasn’t scrapped until 1935, seems like a very sturdy ship to me.

[@apt962]

That and literally every piece of machinery has a serial number engraved or stamped and in some cases cast in… and all serial numbers are part of final inspection/sign off. It would be impossible to swap everything out in less than a few months… even if they tried to change the numbers this is not a trivial undertaking that the tin hatter suggests…

[@Speckled_Jim69]

Corruption everywhere. White line would have paid inspectors off. If this did happen.

[@akshxu]

This theory is so silly. After all, Olympic would've just sank the iceberg...

[@wildsmiley]

🤌 The hypothetical audacity of this iceberg, really. Didn't it know that the whole of the Atlantic Ocean belonged to Olympic, and you best not get in her way?

[@Torentino_Ian_no_channel_2006]

Olympic: *to the whole Atlantic Ocean* I'm the Boss.

[@hans7500]

The iceberg will be the one having to close it's watertight compartments instead of oly

[@mithramusic5909]

This is the best comment

[@CoalChrome]

Virgin Titanic sinking from an iceberg Chad Olympic running over submarines

[@michaelimbesi2314]

I love how Dr. Payne is just quietly and politely demolishing the entire premise of this conspiracy theory.

[@Kolonol1]

Not really but ok

[@juliadagnall5816]

Y’know I think this theory only gains traction because the majority of people don’t understand that ships are not like cars. If your car is in a collision and gets more than very minor damage it’s totaled. If a steamship took damage they hauled it back to dry dock, patched it up, and sent it right back out again. The MV Stockholm, the ship that collided with and caused the sinking of the Andrea Doria in 1956, was repaired after the collision is still around today (although maybe not for much longer, she is 76 years old). The idea that Olympic would be impossible to repair after a relatively minor collision is pretty laughable.

[@Revkor]

dude my parents car got hail damage. so its dented to hell but all the innards are jsut fine. but the cost to replace the panels would cost more then the car was worth. so even though their is nothign mechanically wrong with it it was considered totaled

[@rizon72]

@@Revkor I always wonder how parts can cost more than the total car.

[@GAD00SH]

​@@rizon72it's not just the parts, but a ton of labour to fit all new panels properly and a new paintjob isn't cheap

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

The subject of Stockholm came up in another video chat room, she's out of service now and presumeably scrapped. Still you're point's made, Stockholm was repaired and had a long service life afterward.

[@fred6319]

it was not minor

[@RmsOlympic1913]

*The iceberg was paid handsomely for his part in the plot*

[@RipperSport]

"We have paid the iceberg to be at the location, just make sure to be there on time Mr. Smith."

[@ole5539]

Only the unseen portion.

[@sifridbassoon]

he spent the rest of his (admitedly short) life on the Riviera

[@Wintermute909]

It seems obvious to me that the captain (I'll have to assume he's like any normal person who recieved the memo shown @ 26:10 ) when told there was an iceberg screamed "I have immunity from [every] accident! This memo is more powerful than anything the ocean can throw at me! Bwhahaha! This memo..... makes me a God!" So I don't even blame the iceberg, I blame those innocuous few words!

[@SynicalBeats]

Then melted to ensure its silence

[@gokulgopan4397]

If they were so desperate for insurance money, it was much better and less suspicious for Olympic to "accidentally" catch fire during Hawke collision repairs.

[@tabithahallows6116]

And they would have avoided ruining their public image with the lives of passengers lost during the sinking

[@nightw4tchman]

I do enjoy hearing how people think the ship yard could have swapped these ships. I did a scheduled dry dock on a cruise ship and yeah... good luck keeping that quiet or actually being able to pull it off.

[@tabithahallows6116]

They really expect you to believe that the hundreds of men working in the yard never said a word 😂

[@EflowNivek]

The one thing I need to know is how White Star contacted the berg to be in the right place at the right time and also communications with the moon to dip out on its duties for a night and what they got out of this whole situation.

[@JunoCat91]

I swear 100 years or so from now, when hardly anything of the Titanic wreck will be left (or maybe even nothing at all) conspiracy theorists will claim that there never was a ship wreck split in two at the bottom of the ocean. They will claim that James Cameron invented the story to promote his film and all photos are photoshopped. 😂😂

[@Truecrimeresearcher224]

According to science titanic will be gone by 2040 at the latest if I remember correctly. So if that is true 2041 the conspiracy will start

[@jeffwenberg4321]

There are already people of younger generations, who didn't know that Titanic, as a movie, was based on fact except for the Jack/Rose story. Actually, I had one younger coworker completely stunned when the movie Apollo 13 came out. When she talked about wanting to see it I agreed and said I remembered it. She had no idea it was based on a true event!

[@robertstaples3256]

@@jeffwenberg4321 As someone who only fairly recently came out of the public education system as an attentive student in history particularly, I wholly blame the public education system for many people's general historical ignorance. It took my school district until junior year of HIGH SCHOOL to learn American history up to Reconstruction. Almost every year was just a bare bones repeat of the Revolutionary period. In all my public school years, only one class made it up to the Great War. World history was lumped into "social studies," and even that was mostly just the absolute broadest brush strokes, as in we learned what feudalism was but never actually dove into the complex web that is Europe's middle ages. Civics and political science were barely spoken of, additionally.

[@randomrazr]

the propellers say number 401 on the wreck. those bronze propellers will be around for a long time

[@Truecrimeresearcher224]

@@randomrazr right I was talking the iron of the ship like the boilers and propellers will be around a long time

[@jolo3118]

Aside from weekend and summer boating while growing up in the PNW, I haven't been super interested in ships, their designs, or even the history of the industry...until your channel randomly popped up in my recommended videos just over a year ago. I've learned more than I ever knew I wanted to and cant click fast enough! That's the sign of a great content creator!

[@ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming]

Lived in the PNW all my life. Now I will tell you that the late owner of the Titan and Oceangate was based out of Everett. Yet they still built a (pardon the pun) subpar deathtrap. Believe me, I was indignant when I discovered this, when the entire city is surrounded by technology and marine industry. Anyways, the switch theory is totally bunk, the nail in the coffin should be the clear 401 on Titanic’s propellers visible above the mud. Olympic’s yard number was 400.

[@jolo3118]

@@ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming Wow. I had no idea that Titan/Oceangate was based out of Everett! See? I still learn something every single time I come here! 🙂 For the record, I don't believe this switch theory either. Just too many things, both large and tiny would have to be meticulously traded out, covered up and I just don't see all of that happening. Just out of curiosity, can I ask what part of PNW are you from? I' was raised in Federal Way, Wa , just up the road from Redondo.

[@filmandfirearms]

From Seattle here. My dad and I were members of the Center for Wooden Boats when I was a kid. Even did a sailing school there. I don't have the time or the money now, but I want nothing more than to get back out in one of those little Blanchards on Lake Washington again. That desire was always there, but Mike Brady definitely reignited it for me

[@scabbycatcat4202]

Well I am not from the PNW , I'm from GSP myself. I don't think you quite understand the WGT if you come form the PNW because you people are always a bit FDT. Perhaps you should try some GHP to overcome your infliction ???

[@zackakai5173]

As someone who grew up near Mystic, CT (an old whaling port) and developed an interest in ships after a trip to the battleship Massachusetts as a kid, allow me to welcome you to our weird and extremely niche little corner of the internet 🤣 If you haven't already discovered them, I also recommend a channel called Drachinifel (the videos on the Battle off Samar and the Voyage of the Damned are fantastic), and another called Maritime Horrors (he talks mostly about wrecks, ships that vanished without a trace, etc).

[@JWRogersPS]

It's been mentioned multiple times that when shipping companies (especially back then) wanted to collect insurance on a no longer wanted ship, a fire at dockside with no passengers and only a minimal crew onboard would be much easier and cheaper than switching ships and staging a sinking.

[@duncanhamilton5841]

Well exactly. Assuming it wasn't insured when the Hawke TPAC'd it, then you'd have a welding fire, a catastrophic boiler explosion, or some other industrial accident in Dock.

[@fred6319]

fire at dockside would leave a ship to investigate

[@JWRogersPS]

@@fred6319 Who's going to investigate? Ship fires were all too common back then.

[@QP300]

@@fred6319- but in those days it was just a lot easier to get away with. They didn't have the knowledge, that we have today - in fact fire science were developed between 1900-1950, so 1911 were still early days and nobody would have been to able with certainty to prove where it all began. It would have been a safe pay out.

[@fred6319]

@@JWRogersPS the insurance company

[@Paracosm]

I’m honestly so glad to see how much better your production quality is getting these days, I feel like we’re watching the rise of the biggest maritime channel on KZbin!

[@swbigfan1]

For just a moment let's put aside all the excellent arguments put forth in the video and marvel at the insane suggestion that a liner of this size was sent out with a full complement of passengers to "find an iceberg & run into it in a manner that would believably sink the ship".

[@fyrequeene]

Yes--not just fraud, but willful murder? Remember, this happened before the utter carnage of WWI and WWII, and the Holocaust--people weren't accustomed to blithely taking thousands of lives in the name of profit or politics. Not even the most rapacious capitalist, back then, would have considered such a thing, let alone board the boat himself, as Ismay did. A ridiculous conspiracy.

[@tqsuited]

Actually, the plan wasn't to hit an iceberg.. the theory goes that they would deliberately let in water (not sure exactly how) at a specific spot/time with rescue ships relatively nearby (and possibly on alert?) so to avoid losing lives. Hitting the iceberg was accidental, thus why there wasn't rescue ships close enough besides the Californian.. who either were too neglectful to help, or.. they were part of the conspiracy and expected the ship to sink during daylight, so didn't think it was sinking as it did at night.

[@mvp019]

Don't be silly. The moon wasn't visible because Putin had Yuri Gagarin put a shroud over it.

[@haredr6511]

Actually, Titanic was far from full. This is indeed one of the most curious bits of circumstantial evidence. The N Atlantic route was busy, and ships usually went to sea full. The coal shortage made every available ticket a hot commodity, because so many ships were stuck in port. Why then, was the maiden voyage of the largest, most luxurious, most prestigious liner ever to go to sea, only about 2/3 capacity? It’s a question nobody has been able to answer, and a leading theory is that passage was restricted to minimize the chaos during the planned rescue, and to ensure enough space on the rescue vessel which would be much smaller. There are a great many curious and unanswered questions driving the conspiracy theory. There was very clearly a conspiracy, but the real question is whether or not a ship was sunk on purpose that night.

[@brodriguez11000]

Stunt ship.

[@AROBASPARK]

The theory makes no sense; If Olympic was damaged beyond repair and no longer seaworthy, then how was she able (disguise as Titanic) make the 4 day sail on her own power with no problems?

[@DefenderPuma]

If KZbin put a warning on it, there's probably truth to it lol.

[@zombiecheney4583]

​@@DefenderPumamoron

[@ketaminepoptarts]

@@DefenderPumathere isnt even a warning, its just the titanics wikipedia page lmao

[@anthonymorris2276]

What makes the story totally idiotic is the notion that White Star Line would totally destroy its own reputation by deliberately sinking a ship in the middles of the Atlantic at the worst possible location - with no other ships nearby - so as to maximise the risk and number of fatalities.

[@AROBASPARK]

@@anthonymorris2276 Not to mention it would put WSL ONE ship short of their plan 3 ship service; Britannic would not be ready for a couple more years, thus forcing them to depend on their outdated Big Four (and other older ships), which the Olympic class were meant to replace while Cunard, the German and French Lines would have teams of ships serving the NY route. Aquitania was on her way to aid Lusi and Mauri, and the Imperator was going to enter service the next year. The Switch theory is not just idiotic, but unreasonably stupid, cause it would put them at a massive disadvantage, plus nothing guarantee that the pay out would be good.

[@p.k.5455]

My young son was just talking about this at school. One of his friends told him they were switched and being only ten years old, he thought it was true. This video came out at a perfect time, and i thank you Mike!

[@nineteen8486]

more research

[@p.k.5455]

@@nineteen8486 for what?

[@oriontaylor]

Well done! How much eye-rolling and gritting of teeth was required to get through making this film in the first place? I wouldn’t have had the patience for it!

[@robertely686]

Like reading a newspaper - Saddams nuclear weapons, Assad gassing his own people or Pootin blowing up his own gas pipeline. The sad thing is that mainstream media conspiracies actually kill people but the people that fall for them pretend that they are virtuous

[@jacklempke7779]

Half hour video from Mike. It’s truly a blessed Sunday.

[@chrisbiszantz]

Right? I love his LF videos.

[@carlhallowell3421]

The frustrating thing is that every time Titanic makes the headlines (Ballard's discovery, the movie, the 100 year anniversary, the submarine implosion), the imbecilic conspiracies show up just as quickly, while the facts that debunk those theories seem to take forever to arrive.

[@user-yk9em3je6q]

Retired-boomers-with-computers may go some way to explain it.

[@sapphireseptember]

Doubt it, retired baby boomers have more sense.

[@jeffwenberg4321]

​@user-yk9em3je6q sorry, but as a soon to be retired boomer, the LAST thing I will be doing is spending my free time on the computer making up bullsh!t stories. Quite the opposite actually. I'll be spending as much time AWAY from computers, tablets, smart phones, and the toxicity that is social media and the internet!

[@ByWire-yk8eh]

@@sapphireseptember Agreed! I'm old enough to remember when the internet had relatively reliable info, before it got so inexpensive and pervasive that any ignorant, social media loving fool could post stuff.

[@brookeg5979]

I mean....Conspiracies take seconds to invent. Facts take time to research and unearth, and then collect in a linear manner. Anyone can make a dumb statement (the sky is made of gold!), but it takes a lot of work to explain why that's not true in a way that everyone can understand.

[@user-mq1ch8cr5o]

This is the most in depth and documented rebuttle of this "theory" I've ever seen ! Great Job ! Looking forward to see the second part.

[@julieputney4317]

Nicely explained, Mike! I am looking forward to part 2

[@Henri_Hilarious]

Same!

[@stevenlagoe7808]

And me!

[@MiggerPlease]

Bic😢

[@cowbanchalam9725]

The real fraud is Mike !!!! There is no part 2 😂 Just a 'subscribe' ploy! I'm always ready for any/all your future content

[@Henri_Hilarious]

@@cowbanchalam9725 same! He’s great! I think he should start a podcast

[@htilden42]

this conspiracy is basically just Steamed Hams but with ships: "Egads! My ship is ruined! But what if...I were to disguise Olympic as Titanic and purposely sink it to collect insurance money? Oh ho ho ho...how delightfully devilish Brucie!"

[@Alfmanist]

Brilliant!

[@DECODEDVFX]

Exactly

[@letsburn00]

If you've ever seen the video "steamed hams if it was a Netflix true crime documentary" that describes it perfectly.

[@eliel0503]

Fun Fact: Dan Van Der Vat, co-author of The Riddle of the Titanic, said on his own website that "The publishers were disillusioned when the theory did not stand up..."

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

Indeed. Van der Vat later distanced himself from the whole nonsense.

[@jaydee9593]

😂

[@straker454]

I'm glad you're doing this. There's a video that's like, less than 15 minutes that does a great job explaining the timing and the impossibility of the switch theory, but something more in-depth is most welcome. I look forward to watching this and the next video.

[@beckg7317]

i love this channel so much, found you after the unfortunate submersible incident and have stayed for the quality content and have learned so much! i appreciate all the effort you put into the videos, can't wait for part 2!

[@zammich3649]

"Oh no, our very expensive and time-consuming-to-build ship suffered totally repairable damage according to the standards of the time! What are I we gonna do?!?!? I KNOW, we'll take the absolutely massive ship that is the pride of the city and visible from all directions at all times of day and SWAP IT OUT for the next one with perfect teamwork and secrecy of many thousands of proud workers, then we'll sail it NEARLY all the way across the ocean (proving that the repair was pretty much an entire success) before forcing it to sink in an EXTREMELY rare and difficult to achieve collision, which will make a HUGE international splash when it kills off tons of extremely wealthy people with resources or their family members and get LOADS of media attention and an extensive investigation that's so impactful that it changes safety regulations forever. We'll do ALL of that instead of properly repairing the repairable damage."

[@Crazyman23]

Next thing you know they are going to say the britanic was the Olympic when it struck the mine and sunk just so their pride Olympic survived the war.

[@fred6319]

proving that the repair was pretty much an entire success SHORT TERM

[@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361]

AND we'll trust the hundreds of workers to keep the secret!

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361 Of course. Ulstermen are notoriously obedient of authority figures and noted for their secrecy!

[@zammich3649]

@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361 Thousands, apparently. I looked it up, and Harland & Wolff shipyard employed about 14,000 workers, of whom 3,000 were working on the Titanic... plus whoever would have been handling repairs.

[@livethefuture2492]

I still dont understand...no matter how damaged Olympic might have been... In what WORLD would it ever make sense to INTENTIONALLY sink Your OWN brand new ocean liner?! and with all the time and money spent, the enormous loss of life, damage to the company's reputation that would entail? Like what?! Im sorry, you had me at that...why on earth would anyone believe something so outlandish?

[@volktales7005]

Because the world is full of stupid people.

[@Revkor]

look at Boeing

[@willnoiles2001]

@livethefuture2492, bingo! Even without the implausibility of an insurance fraud scheme of this type, my thoughts went immediately to “how do you intentionally sink a ship out in the middle of the Atlantic in such a way that it would sink? And what shipping company would be honestly believe that this insurance fraud scheme would be worth the damage to the company’s reputation after so many lives were lost on its maiden voyage? Because we all know that the Titanic sinking nearly destroyed the White Star Line’s reputation and it most definitely destroyed its President, J. Bruce Ismay’s career and life. Are we to believe that the company would go along with all the documentation fraud necessary to change the two vessels when it would’ve been predictable that deliberately sinking the ship would lead to their president’s resignation? I’m convinced that this Robin Gardner guy sees boogey men under his bed!

[@castlebravocrypto1615]

Just because you and I wouldn't do something like that, doesn't mean they wont. Vietnam war and Gulf of Tonkin false flag were perpetrated by the same interests just decades later. Edit* as someone else just pointed out, Boeing is a terrific example in the modern world.

[@KarlTheExpert]

​​​​@@RevkorBoeing's crime is neglect, they haven't crashed any planes intentionally, terrible analogy. Also there were a bunch of higher ups from White Star Line and people closely connected to them on board. Plus celebrities and the superrich. It'd be kinda like Boeing intentionally crashing a plane with its own CEO, Taylor Swift and Bill Gates on board. Only to scam their insurance. But wait, maybe that was part of the cover-up...!?! 😮

[@andrewl3655]

I love Mike’s videos. It is a bit frustrating that Gardiner’s conspiracy theory is given more oxygen (I still regret buying the book all those years ago) rather than just being left to rot, alas much like the wreckage on the bottom of the Atlantic.

[@RCassinello]

I read Gardiner's second book which came out around 1999ish, and a lot of the first-hand quotes he provided were pretty convincing. Except... If you went back to the original sources of those quotes, you'd find that he had selectively removed huge chunks in order to deliberately deceive the reader. I'll put in just a couple of examples I noted from the chapter where he tried to prove that the layout of B-deck was that of Olympic's rather than Titanic's. As he discusses the lowering of boat 12, he makes this extraordinary statement: "As the boat was lowering, a French man jumped in from B deck, which goes to show how determined this individual was; B deck was supposedly enclosed at that point." To back up this story of the jumping Frenchman, he references page 153 of Col. Gracie's book. Here, Gracie paraphrases Able Bodied seaman F. Clench's testimony from the American Inquiry: "There was only one male passenger in our boat, a Frenchman who jumped in and we could not find him. He got under the thwart, mixed up with the women, just as we dropped into the water before the boat was lowered and without our knowledge." Clench's full testimony about this incident appears on Page 637 of the American Inquiry, and reads as follows: Mr. CLENCH. There was only one male passenger in our boat, and that was a Frenchman who jumped in, and we could not find him, sir. Senator BOURNE. Where was he? Mr. CLENCH. Under the thwart, mixed with the women. In fact, of course, we could not look for him just as we dropped into the water. Senator BOURNE. He got into the boat before you lowered her? Mr. CLENCH. Before we lowered her. Senator BOURNE. Without your knowledge? Mr. CLENCH. Without our knowing it. Senator BOURNE. How do you think he was able to do that? Mr. CLENCH. I could not say, that, sir. We were, of course, attending to the falls and looking out to see that they went down clear. Nowhere in either Col. Gracie's book or in Clench's testimony is any reference made to the Frenchman jumping in from B deck. Indeed, Clench doesn't even know where the Frenchman came from. Also in this chapter, Gardiner cites information from Steward Edward Wheelton as supporting the switch claim: "Also on B deck, but on the starboard side, Steward Edward Wheelton met Thomas Andrews who was looking into cabins to ensure that they were empty. Bathroom Steward James Widgery had already checked that all the passengers were out of their cabins and on deck before he went up himself. Wheelton noticed that boats 7, 5 and 9 were gone but that Number 11 was still hanging in its davits. Wheelton's statement tells us that the boats were visible from the corridor on B Deck, which of course they would not have been if the cabins on that deck extended right out to the sides of the ship." He references page 285 of Col. Gracie's book to support this, and at first glance it does: "As I made along B Deck I met Mr. Andrews, the builder, who was opening the rooms and looking in to see if there was anyone in, and closing the doors again. Nos. 7, 5 and 9 had gone. No. 11 boat was hanging in the davits. Mr. Murdoch said: 'You go too.'" But what Wheelton *actually* said was: "As I went along B deck I met Mr. Andrews, the builder, who was opening the rooms and looking in to see if there was anyone in, and closing the doors again. I went along B deck and used what we call the accommodation staircase, which goes through the ship, and is used by the stewards. I went down to the storeroom and I got a bottle of biscuits, and I carried them up to the main dining room, through the reception room, up the main staircase. I got onto the deck; the boats had gone. They were working at No. 7. I meant No. 5 had gone. I went to No. 7 and assisted in lowering No. 7. I think it was No. 7. "Mr. Lowe told Mr. Ismay to get to hell out of it, because I was the steward who stood back of Mr. Lowe. We worked at No. 7 and got her down, and then No. 9. Mr. Murdoch was there, and Mr. Ismay stood up by all of the boats I saw get away. I walked along when No. 9 went, and Mr. Murdoch, the first officer, turned around. He sent the assistant second steward down to A deck, and he said to me 'You go, too.' He got hold of me by the left arm and he said, 'You go, too.'" The story as Wheelton tells it himself is a heck of a lot different to how Gardiner would have us believe.

[@thomasackerman5399]

Not surprising for anyone who knew about Gardiner and always important to go back and look through original first sources as much as possible before accepting anything, even from very reliable historians, as even Walter Lord made mistakes, some of which he rectified in his "The Night Lives On" follow up. Gardiner on the other hand only doubled down as he had little to no incentive with the attention and money being thrown at him. As an aside, after the insurance fraud theory fell apart, so of course Gardiner just out of whole cloth claimed that White Star Line upped the TItanic's insurance, and of course there's no evidence of that. All in order to keep his scam theory and book sales going. Others who also look to cash in have since changed it to the most outlandish murder plot having to do with killing off three alleged opponents of the Federal Reserve. But on closer inspection, that one falls apart because such a bizarre plot requires not only the same precision of the insurance fraud theory, but it really requires that all the officers and crew be in on the plot and keep those men from just boarding a lifeboat or stop them surviving by swimming to one. The other problem is that one fails because two of the three men had no public opinion on the formation of a Federal Reserve, and one of the three, Isidor Straus, was actually for it!

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

Unbelieveable. The switch theory was rubbish from the beginning for anyone who's a student of the Titanic, the White Star Line, maritime history and oceanliner construction. But some people just aren't happy unless there's a "bogeyman in the closet" or a "monster under the bed," if you get my meaning. The only theory I've had doubts about is the "suction" theory of the mass of Olympic pulling HMS Hawke into her side. I forget which Titanic book I read this in (I've got a shelf full) but years later it was revealed Hawke had a steering gear failure which put her into Olympic's side. The RN didn't want to admit it at the time. And as we've found out recently there's nothing unusual about steering gear failures. Great video as always Mike! Looking forward to Part Two!

[@SuperShovelpower]

Any big event Will have its conspiracy theory and made up lies as evidence just to sell to the uneducated masses....

[@masterdynamo6457]

What I will say to this, is that the suction theory isn't a theory. The hydrodynamics of displacement hulls are complex and I have no particular desire to get that far into the weeds right now, but the important part is that there would be an area of low pressure in about the zone Hawke was in. This is a very real thing that mariners do have to be aware of. In fact, they often use it -- this is why when ships meet in opposite directions in a narrow channel, they will approach head-on and turn aside at the last second. The high pressure about their bows pushes the ships apart, the low pressure along the side sucks them parallel, and the low pressure at their sterns sucks them back over into the centre of the channel. The most likely course of events is that the suction effect began to pull Hawke in, but because her steering gear failed, Hawke was unable to counteract the force and steamed into Olympic's side.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

@@masterdynamo6457 Interesting! But like yourself I don't want to get into the weeds over this either. (Love that expression!) However that "ships meeting in a narrow channel" maneuver sounds a bit risky, especially if you remember "Murphy's Law" is always waiting in the wings ready to strike. I suppose meets like that are hard to avoid but I prefer the old mariners rule of "If you can see it it's too close, unless it's the destination!" Or more to the point "Stay the hell away from me!"

[@surferdude4487]

The most suspicious thing about the Olympic collision is that White Star lines was found to be at fault. The cheap-skate navy should have coughed up for those repairs.

[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

It's all so on the 'up and up' that YT needs a disclaimer - YT should be confident that some many lemmings are out that thinking everything is as told - get your injections a couple years ago ? bet you did - a long needle full of undisclosed chemicals - like a junkie - but that's just a conspiracy so no worries

[@mithramusic5909]

The whole thing doesn't even pass the smell test for so many reasons. The reputational damage was greater than the insurance payout. End of conspiracy right there. But if a ship had to sink, it could have been done during sea trials with only crew on board, or after Cherbourg. But I guess it makes more sense to sink her in an ice field they didn't know existed?

[@tprescott]

One thing that the swap theory people don't seem to take into account is, just how do you keep every single shipyard worker from talking about it.

[@KarlTheExpert]

That's what kills almost all conspiracy theories. People talk. See literally all actual conspiracies we know about.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

Everyone in the shipyard would know about it and the thing with a conspiracy is the more people involved the harder it is to keep a lid on it. Plus, it's hard to believe Quartermaster Hitchins would deliberately steer the ship into a collision. EVERYONE on the bridge would have had to be in on it too.

[@robertely686]

Well the media managed it with the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the Iraq nuclear weapons, Assad gassing his own people, Chinese weather balloons etc etc The general population who read newspapers or watch tv are incredibly easy to sell conspiracies to, and incredibly easy to hide conspiracies from.

[@jennierayner2152]

lol exactly...we're supposed to believe that not one of these dudes went home to their wives like "you would not BELIEVE what they've got us pulling at work right now" i mean weren't the shipyards the equivalent of a small town, in terms of the number of people there? and nobody talked? cmon.

[@thenextpersonontheright]

Exactly! Someone would talk. Someone would have sold their story.

[@bb55idvo]

Awesome video... can't wait for the 2nd part. Always enjoy Mr. Brady's videos. I found this one of particular interest because when I was in college I actually did a persuasive speach in my class on this very subject. Using Gardner's book I was able to convince the class that the whole sinking of the Titanic was an insurance scam that had gone terribly wrong. Then, during the question and answer portion of the assignment, my instructor asked me if I really believed it was a insurance scam. I then spent the next 5-6 minutes refuting my entire speech... using some of the facts Mr. Brady presented here. This video brings back fond memories. Keep the great videos coming sir!

[@jilliansmaniotto2326]

I love how every buffoon who stumbles across this theory on tiktok immediately pops onto every piece of titanic content to comment “☝🏻🤓 fun fact: the TiTaNiC aCkShUaLLy diDn’T SiNk because fEdErAL rEsErVe and J.p. mOrgan and btw I don’t understand how insurance works!”

[@drby0788]

Must be exhausting being these people..thinking everything down to your own birth is a conspiracy. People just like to be miserable

[@TheEternallyAggrieved1999]

What's really exhausting is when a great many "Conspiracy theories" are proven correct again and again and again. The elite frankly do not deserve my trust anymore.

[@brookeg5979]

I live in Colorado, and there are a LOT of consipiracies around our airport. One centers around two murals, The Children of the World Dream of Peace and In Harmony with Peace and Nature. The artists, a father and daughter and their partner, have been impacted by the crazy conspiracies about their mural but of course people believe what they want to believe. Anyway, in a recent documentary there was an interview with the daughter, Leticia Languma, in which she said "I think rumors like the airport conspiracies and the mural conspiracies, they really seek to destroy the human connection, the human spirit.” That really struck me, because while conspiracies tend to bring people together around a single (false) concept or idea, that concept or idea is usually pretty destructive as a whole and actually tears people apart in so many ways.

[@DonaldDucksRevenge]

Were you party to consideration of your own conception? By definition then, it impacting you the greatest with no input from you and agreement between two principals in secret first, it is a conspiracy. The only 'out' is "well the Holy Spirit knew" or "we told our friends we were trying." Still, the child is never let in on the discussion if there even is one. So yes, it is a conspiracy techically.

[@TheTonyMcD]

I think the conspiracies actually comfort them in a way. It's that feeling that you have a secret knowledge, you have a certain kind of insight that allows you to see what others aren't capable of. It very much makes them feel special. This is one of the big reasons that conspiracies are so attractive to some people.

[@KSparks80]

@@brookeg5979 It's not destructive at all if you just realize these peolple are simple idiots. If they weren't spouting some crazy bs, who would give them any attention at all? Just stating "they built a new airport with murals", "the Titanic hit an iceberg and sunk", or "the Earth is a sphere", wouldn't generate any of the clicks, likes, or comments (attention) that they need. Without it, they're forced to realize that their life consists of mom's basement and Cheetos. lol

[@majesticwerm7813]

I vaguely remember hearing about this crazy theory on a podcast or another KZbin video, can’t remember exactly but I thought it seemed like a wild idea. The information given in this video makes it seem like such a silly idea. Looking forward to part 2! I’ve only found your channel a couple days ago but I’m really enjoying the content!

[@Breakfastlizurt]

always exciting to see a new video from you, especially ones about the Titanic and her sister ships! i look forward to seeing part two when that comes out!

[@tuukkasilventoinen8961]

The reason they couldn't see the iceberg was that the government was changing lamp of the moon that night!

[@davidhatton583]

Love it!!

[@cplcabs]

I heard it was because they forgot to put 50p in the moon electric meter.

[@BenDover-rp5gp]

I can confirm that this is true (no i can't)

[@LoPhatKao]

the moon still ran on lamp gas back then, but the lamplighters were on strike

[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

Yes the Moon - that big rock floating up in a vacuum - a vacuum that normally means nothing would float - even water vapor stops floating if there is not enough pressure holding it together - how come a rock floats up there ? that's odd but we know they landed on it because we saw it on Television right ?

[@toddgrafton4070]

Hello all, it's your friend, Mike Brady. When I saw the title I thought, Oh brother. I can't resist tho. It is amazing how uninformed people are......but I love conspiracy theories even if I think they are silly. Love the channel. Great work, Mr. B

[@Th.G.M.]

Thanks for those beautiful and sharp pictures shown! Also, your illustrations, as well as the professional narration, make your videos something special. 👏

[@karenwiley9702]

I just saw your video of pat one of the Titanic Conspiracy. I was very impressed with it. I am looking forward to seeing part two of your video. Thanks for making great videos

[@mkendallpk4321]

Mike Brady, myth buster extraordinaire! The quality of your research and videos are excellent. And that is why I always enjoy your videos.

[@lifebehindbars68]

Mike, I cannot express the level of quality you bring to your videos. The editing, the commentary, the detailed research, the scripting. Your videos are on par with that of Discovery Documentaries. You make videos so worth watching. You're a credit to your craft.

[@AlexandruCarjan]

I hope the next part goes into detail about interior differences too not just exterior, and also the fact that everything inside and out was marked with their respective hull numbers making it even more impossible to swap

[@VanceWarren83]

I have been waiting a long time for my friend, Mike Brady, to cover this! Very pleased and can’t wait for part two!

[@Wildcat_Media]

Happy Easter to all the Oceanliner Designs crew! Also, I have to express my amusement at a point that the conspiracy theory tries to make - The Olympic was supposedly so badly damaged that even if she were repaired, she would still fail any inspections to determine her seaworthiness… but let’s pretend she’s a brand new Titanic (that has yet to undergo her own sea trials and other inspections) so we can sink her on purpose and collect the insurance money! Brilliant logic there… 🙄

[@fred6319]

Brilliant logic here swap the names after the inspections

[@N8Harris99]

@@fred6319 can’t just ‘swap names’ You’d have to swap every piece of woodwork, every piece of machinery, and all engineering tools on board, in the span of 9 days. Completely impossible. Not to mention, even if that garbage HAD happened, no way in hell there’s zero people who spill the beans about it. And don’t bother bringing up ‘James Fenton’ that’s a fictional character created by the author trying to push this asinine theory.

[@fred6319]

@@N8Harris99 no you wouldn't nobody would chek those but whatever floats your boat

[@N8Harris99]

@@fred6319 Yes, you would have to. The ships weren’t perfectly identical. EVERYTHING would have to be swapped. At the end of the day, if you choose to be wrong, whatever, I cannot stop you, and I will not beg you to be reasonable. Just trying to help you look less foolish is all.

[@fred6319]

@@N8Harris99what part of" nobody would chek those"dont you understand?and WHO would notice? but like i said whatever floats your boat At the end of the day, if you choose to be wrong, whatever, I cannot stop you, and I will not beg you to be reasonable. same to you and maybe the foolish one are you

[@barbarastanwyck4288]

holy crap is this really happening?! my wish has been granted! thanks friend. as someone who bought into the theory in my youth, i am so excited to see you deconstruct it.

[@robertely686]

Did you fall for the Saddams nuclear weapons theory from the government too? Which one do you regret the most?

[@barbarastanwyck4288]

@@robertely686 the wmd propaganda? no. that's where it all fell apart for me. not bad for a 14-year-old i'd say, so no regrets. only learning. i'm assuming by the tone of your comment that you've never fallen for any lies ever? you must be very proud of yourself. good job.

[@romad357]

Sounds like the Royal Navy lied in their "investigation results" saying the RMS Olympic was at fault. The Olympic was going straight ahead while the HMS Hawke turned to port. The Hawke had two shafts and two engines so obviously either the port propulsion system suffered a slowdown or the starboard system suffered a runaway acceleration. Thus any "cover up" was done by the Royal Navy.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

The decision on liability was made in court.

[@kari34b54]

​@@dovetonsturdee7033 And later (years) it was admitted that Hawke was at fault. Royal navy definitely arranged for the court to lean in their favor. They are both the same government after all.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@kari34b54 'And later (years) it was admitted that Hawke was at fault.' Really? The judgement from the time stands to this very day. I assume you have a credible source?

[@casandracrabtree2889]

This is totally the video I didn't know I was waiting desperately for. Lol 🎉 Awesome job! Very informative.

[@tredog884]

Well done, Mike! Thanks for the detailed study. It clears up many questions about the feasibility of rebuilding Olympic. 👍🏾👍🏾

[@jamesplymire5342]

There would have been too many mouths to keep shut to pull this off. 🤦‍♂️

[@Borninthe80s.]

Someone would have blabbed

[@nickh.4917]

Yes thank you. Benjamin Franklin said, “Three men can keep a secret when two of them are dead.”

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@nickh.4917 As best I recall, there was no mass increase in deaths among H & W employees immediately after the sinking.

[@fmyoung]

That's what I always thought too

[@megarollxrgmbroadcasting91]

Superb video Mike! I’ve been hoping you’d make one on this topic. Watching this one on the clock😎

[@lucieb.7991]

Off subject: your channel managed to awake an interest in me for historic ships and historic naval events, which I didn't have before. So, thank you for your good work!

[@ChickVicious237]

Thank you Mike for treating the people who are misinformed about the theory with patience and respect! It's not easy to see things through the eyes of the general public when you're highly educated in a particular topic, and so so many "experts" forget this. I hope others are able and willing to follow your example!

[@anthonymaslow798]

No, the thing with these people is that even if you patiently explain how patently absurd their conspiracies are, they will just roll their eyes and call you a sheep. They are thoroughly deserving of all the contempt one can possibly muster.

[@PointReflex]

@@anthonymaslow798 Agree, specially when they are the ones bashing the image of thousands of workers at Harland & Wolff by making them part of the conspiracy for the sole purpose of: 1) For the author to earn money out of bashing those people. 2) For the fans to go in an orgy off jerk-offs over each other. Long story short, screw this people, screw them with a bend Keel.

[@mjohans8767]

Quality content! Would love to see a video about the sinking of M/S Estonia in the future

[@annelisestarhope9334]

Knowing extremely little about ships in general, this is fascinating to learn. I appreciate your channel Mike. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@duanebarbic3786]

Thank you Mike Brady for putting that theory to rest. Your presentation is beyond convincing. As always another great production, looking forward to the day these videos are packaged for the History Channel or Story Channel.....hint hint !

[@SlurpySOT]

Happy easter mike Love yor vids so.. Keep up the great work🎉

[@user-et2xc2ww6q]

Happy Easter Mike . The Titanic conspiracy theories are such a joke . Love your channel . Proud of you .

[@jaynorris3722]

Hey Mike, I truly enjoy your videos. Thank you very much for sharing them. Looking forward to part 2😊

[@TheAlphahirogen]

Thanks for being a voice of reason and good research, instead of just another clickbait-type channel.

[@2003BMW325i]

Please do a video on why titanic didn’t capsize. I’ve never really understood that.

[@crptpyr]

Iirc it's because the flooding was really even, possibly combined with the list she had through most of the journey because of the coal fire. Because of the constant list to port, there was a good counterbalance to stop her listing too hard to starboard (where the damage occurred). The other factor of the even flooding was down to the way the bulkheads were designed, basically they allowed water to flow through the ship evenly between port and starboard with little impedement, this also helped in preventing a more severe list to either side from developing, stopping the Titanic from capsizing.

[@dylancloud97]

Complete luck lol, the iceberg damage evened out the list moving the coal from the fire created and by the time she leaned over the port passenger door opened and evened her out again. It's really crazy

[@KatlynJShute]

I’ve heard there were a few reasons that assisted with the even flooding which helped prevent the ship from capsizing. One reason was actually due to the coal fire that the ship had been dealing with for the entire journey. To help deal with the coal bunker fire the ships fire crew had moved tons of coal to the opposite side of the ship where the coal fire was burning. This made the ship heavier on the stern side (left side) which is opposite of where she was hit. This allowed the ship to be more balanced as she flooded so she was able to more gradually even out as she filled with water. Which helped her not capsize. There is also evidence that one of the gangway doors left open by accident. It had been opened to allow for some passengers to be loaded onto life boats from lower levels. However, this never happened* and due to the chaos during her final stages of sinking it was never closed again. This possibly also helped with allowing the flooding to take place at a more even pace which prevented the dramatic list that would have caused her to capsize. Please be aware I am by no means an expert but I do have a big interest in this tragedy and have watched many many videos on the sinking from both main stream documentaries as well as KZbinrs such as Ocenliner Designs, Part Time explorer, and others who I am forgetting the name of at the moment lol. So please don’t take what I am saying as fact, I could be 1000% talking out of my a$$ here lol. *I don’t remember exactly why, it may have been due to running out of time and boats being completely full by the time they were lowered to this level since they didnt have enough lifeboats in the first place. And due to the crew being told to abandoned their posts towards the end of the sinking the captain wasn’t able to confirm with anyone that the door had been closed. Or he may have been so busy with trying to save as many lives as possible that the door became a moot point and the topic was never discussed again with the remaining crew.

[@1940limited]

Why would it capsize?

[@KatlynJShute]

@@crptpyrhahaha wrote out my reply to the OP question before I read your reply as well lol. Sorry about that, you already answered the question and i basically just said the same thing you did but with more detail lol. Sorry about that. Good to know I was remembering the capsizing thing correctly. I was afraid I was totally wrong and was about to make a fool of myself lol.

[@oh4rrison]

I'm on your profile looking for part two!! Realise it's only 5 days old... keep making great content

[@lindawalker5396]

Love your thorough research and commentary! You deliver a fascinating story with superb photo images! So enjoyable!

[@christiantaylor6639]

Happy Easter Mike. Keep up the good work.

[@OpTiC_DaD]

I get so excited for Titanic month! Always great content! 👍🏻

[@christophermartin8366]

I only watched this 'conspiracy' due to the fact I like your channel enough that when you used the term, I had to watch....love this channel....subbed So well presented....clear, concise, even to a landubber like me.

[@Karagianis]

Leving aside all the practical reasons here. Would White Star REALLY be ok with further destroying their poor public reputation after MULTIPLE major accidents in the preceeding twenty years? The Naronic had just straight up VANISHED in 1893. The Suevik had run aground and had to be evacuated by lifeboats in 1907, and the Republic had sank in a collision in 1909, just 3 years ago. Loosing another ship so soon, especially your company's flagship, on its HIGHLY publicised maiden voyage would have crippled White Star's business even without the mass loss of life.

[@murph64]

Think this is the earliest I've caught an upload ha, lets gooooo

[@peytonbarber9983]

This is BY FAR the most frustrating conspiracy I have ever heard about the Titanic. It seems to me that every “average Joe” knows this theory and thinks it’s true, it’s insane! I can’t even put into words how mad it makes me! I’ve reported so many videos for false information because of this. All it takes is the smallest amount of research to find out that it’s complete malarkey. Thank you Mike for fighting the good fight and spreading the truth!

[@ryohoshi8445]

I'm just kind of baffled because wasn't one of the reasons people hadn't believed the initial reports of that iceberg was because it was in an area where icebergs were (to put it mildly) unusual? It would probably be vastly more profitable to sell your weather predictions, if you were able to predict an iceberg in an unusual place that accurate and that far ahead.

[@sapphireseptember]

I've only heard it in the past few years. Just seems ridiculous that no one would have noticed or talked about it back in the day.

[@karoleenascottage]

@@sapphireseptember A few did.

[@zombiedoggie2732]

it doesn't even make sense on the bare bones. i mean, even if you think they were twin sisters, which they wern't, imagion how long it takes to pack up to move to a differnt location. Now imagion it on the scale of the Olympic, tearing down her fine furnishings, and then moving it to the Titanic to set it up on her.

[@pc_buildyb0i935]

​@@karoleenascottageThere is no historical documentation of the switch theory until Robin Gardner invented it out of his ass and published it in his book in the late 90s.

[@jammieclaychristiansen8638]

That rumor was put to bed when Robert Ballard was examining the wreck in 1986. As he was examining the stern section, he took this picture of the propeller. If you look closely, you can just make out the number 401 on the blade. Titanic’s construction number was 401, meaning that this particular propeller was fitted specifically to the Titanic. Since no two ships are alike, even if they’re built to the same design, each propeller would have been unique to the specific ship it was mounted on - it would have been balanced and aligned to work properly only for the ship it was mounted on.

[@DRACONAR1US]

To add to this a little, as the first ship in the class, Olympic's construction number was 400. As the younger sister, Titanic was next in line with 401. These numbers weren't just engraved on the propellers, but on hundreds of pieces of equipment throughout each ship. If the switch was actually performed, one of two things have to have happened: 1) the builders somehow went through both ships and switched out propellers, boilers, engines, etc -- basically every single piece of equipment or machinery. This would have required essentially tearing both ships apart and rebuilding them, in 9 days. Physical impossibility. 2) the Olympic actually was construction number 401 the entire time, which makes zero sense given she was ordered, laid down, finished and launched 6 months to a year before her little sister. The switch theory really can't progress beyond this fact.

[@marksandland7124]

Great video and very informative I must admit I am a bit of a Titanic fan boy well old aged fan boy. I can not wait for part two to be pushed out.

[@wutang80oc39]

The guy who came up with consipiracy must think that ships are build like cars, where the outer shell or body is part of the overall load bearing structure of the ship. Ships are built more like 4x4s and trucks, where the frame carries the structure and the body shell is just a body shell, and also like a truck ships can be extended by adding a section to and reinforcing the frame.

[@oldgolfpunk]

If the prop shaft was twisted enough to damage the crank. Then there was massive forces placed upon the engine block. The massive engines were part of the floor of the ship so is quite possible this is how you could twist the keel. The problem with the twist no one speaks of is it would not sail in a straight plane. It would need constant adjustment for trim.

[@forevercomputing]

You can can modify cars by lengthening or shortening them as well.

[@oldgolfpunk]

I had a business doing just that. And the original car was gone, a new identity had to be made for it.. Its very simple.​@@forevercomputing

[@forevercomputing]

@@oldgolfpunk which country are you in? Depending on level of modification depends if identity can be kept. If all running gear is original, then it's the same vehicle. But that is the U.K.

[@oldgolfpunk]

I am in the UK. Legally through courts, if you modify a vehicle to any extent from its original plan, then it's a different vehicle. Now dvla don't bother to change anything for such matters as its to much hassle. If I take a motorcycle frame, cut it up shorter or longer, swap wheels suspension etc. I've created a new vehicle. Vosa would want to examine it if it was to be used in the uk. But most of my customers are outside of the UK so they register them privately. The original hennesey venom was a modified lotus exige. I'm not sure if what I said makes sense for you my friend.

[@bobbymartin7455]

I loved you doing the interview with ship experts as part of the video

[@firstnamelastname6216]

Great video Mike!!! I had never heard about this alleged conspiracy, looking forward to part 2!!!

[@gladams55]

Mike thanks for a good explanation, it’s maddening to me that people could believe something so farcical! Thanks for keeping the stories about Titanic coming, it’s amazing there’s still stuff to be learned. Happy Wednesday and I look forward to Part 2.

[@WelshBathBoy]

Surely if the ship was so badly damaged that they needed to sink it for the insurance, then they could have just claimed the damage on insurance without sinking it? like it make no sense to sink something that was already so damaged.

[@trekkie1701c]

...Honestly, if they wanted an insurance payout and were willing to sink the Olympic to do it and fake the repairs enough to convince people it was a new ship, then wouldn't it be easier to just not switch? Claim the ship was just unlucky. She goes out, does a voyage or two, sinks, hey insurance. Swapping the ships seems like a needlessly complex addition to a risky plan, even if nothing else about the plan was impossible.

[@TheHylianBatman]

I think the biggest revelation for me from this video is that you're friends with Stephen Payne! That's really cool!!! I've always relished dispelling this theory, and this video will definitely serve as great evidence for me to pull up! Thanks for another great one, Mike! Can't wait for part 2!

[@tdecker2937]

This is excellent, Mike. Looking forward to part 2

[@dannylukic6536]

Wonderful production. As always ❤

[@oldman975]

The scam theorists leave out one important point: every worker on both ships would know,and remember the old saying,” Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead”.

[@charlesjmouse]

Thank you for another excellent video. I look forward to part two. An example of how people don't like facts to get in the way of a good tale! I find it amazing, if perhaps unsurprising, that the Admiralty found against the Olympic for the collision. Of course I'm no expert but I find it telling that Cpt Smith not only kept his job but went on to be master for the Titanic's maiden voyage - White Star obviously retained confidence in him.

[@cowbanchalam9725]

Another great video. Immediately made me think of the concept - "is there any such thing as truth?" , or perhaps "are we even here?" I think I'll digest the video rather than tink

[@joecolanjr.8149]

Happy Easter Mike!!

[@Feline_Frenzy53]

Hi Mike. It seems to me (and I am just speculating here), that there simply wasn't time to finish the Titanic and switch the ships and jump through all the necessary hoops to achieve this fraud. What a goofy theory.

[@kenwilko]

Already looking forward to part two. I've read both The riddle of the Titanic & The ship that never sank. Although good reads they never stood up to my research either.

[@Hirundo-demersalis]

Thank you for making this video, and looking forward to the next part! You explained it very eloquently and concisely, and unfortunately, in this world where sensational conspiracies are contesting with historical fact, the truth is muddled to almost a farcical degree. Their line of paranoid thinking is insulting to the survivors, the victims and their relatives living and dead, and you're doing a good thing by making sure there's accurate information out there somewhere. Also, I like to think that if these people were sent back in time and met Charles Lightoller, he'd let them have it. The guy didn't suffer fools and ignoramuses lightly!

[@sledgehammerk35]

The mental gymnastics used to make this theory even remotely plausible makes my brain hurt.

[@VinyPalmer]

I guess 9/11 was done by the owners of the Twin Towers because it was too costly to repair a few windows too? Nothing about this conspiracy theory makes sense. Sending (somehow) their (or what appears to be) brand new ship to the bottom of the ocean is catastrophic for the White Star Line. The loss of life, the loss of money, the scandal and the bad press. All because it was too expensive to repair the Olympic? Come on. Also, and I’m very interested in the next video, it takes less than a second for someone to differentiate Olympic from Titanic. Fixing up Titanic’s B deck to pass it off for the Olympic alone would be ten times more costly than repairing the Olympic in the first place. Conspiracy theories are people with an active imagination (or low IQ) trying to find meaning in things that don’t make sense. Sometimes accidents happen. Sometimes ships hit icebergs and thousands of people die. And most of the time, there’s no evil mastermind with a cigar behind it. Just life.

[@erikdraven1731]

Very informative. I've never personally subscribed to the switch theory, but it is fascinating and I can't wait for part two. Although I keep asking myself why am I watching things about shipwrecks three weeks before I take my first Caribbean Cruise?

[@Mama_Tina_7325]

I’m so glad that you have done this. I didn’t realize what I clicked on when I picked yet another Titanic documentary a few months ago. I thought the whole theory was disrespectful to those that lost their lives.

[@TechTimeTraveller]

For me the conspiracy's credibility stops at the crew making a suicide pact to help save Harland and Wolff from a few bad financial quarters.

[@eddiecharles6457]

Conspiracy theories like this refuse to die only because they are more exciting and seductive to the believer.

[@gtt8428]

Like slavery?

[@MagnetOnlyMotors]

Hey Mike, love your forensic account of the events, fabulous work! 😀😀

[@SinisterMD]

Even as a child I was always fascinated by the Titanic and her story. Thank you for this video. I look forward to the next one.