That Heller spindle is one impressive piece of engineering.....the fixture was well thought out as well.
@donnelson81215 ай бұрын
A spindle bad already ? How could a shop afford to run a heller should bought a Haas
@innominatum99065 ай бұрын
@@donnelson8121 Stop being so obtuse 😩 This is just to show how easy a spindle-repair can be done on a Heller
@iDeLaYeD_o5 ай бұрын
That fixture is simple but it doesn't really need to be complicated to do it's job. Sometime simple is smart.
@iDeLaYeD_o5 ай бұрын
@@donnelson8121 Look at the old spindle, it looks brand new, this is just a demonstration. Having to work with HAAS, DN Solutions, Okuma, and Matsuura, I'd rather have the Heller over HAAS. HAAS is good for startups/small shops or to be replaced on a yearly bases otherwise they're too much of a headache compared to any other brand.
@sturmgesutz5 ай бұрын
@@donnelson8121 Unless you are joking such a statement is assinine How on earth could someone seriously compare a Hass to a Heller? also it takes a reaaly gigantic error to damage a Heller spindle. even a normal run of the mill crash is not going to damage it in the slightest. [ a crash that would totally wreck a Hass spindle ]
@Vankel835 ай бұрын
Would love to see to Barry fit inside the SYIL X5 to change the spindle.
@platin21485 ай бұрын
The question is can you replace it yourself.. i guess yes?
@nickthelebo5 ай бұрын
@platin2148 you can do anything yourself if the need is bad enough
@animus3d6635 ай бұрын
@@platin2148 got to check them out in person, everything in the machines seems very easy to get to including spindle. I mainly looked at the x7 but it looked like you could take some of the top sheet metal off and take the spindle out from the side. Would love to see a video on how to actually do it though
@platin21485 ай бұрын
@@animus3d663 I did wonder more if they sell them i guess they do. Yeah should be a thing they do as distributors.
@animus3d6635 ай бұрын
@@platin2148 I don't think TOCNC stocks them in house though, pretty sure all the spare parts come from the Syil HQ in Houston. But yeah I agree they should have some stock imo, especially the little things that will go bad sooner rather than later i.e. capacitive sensors
@alexmorton68185 ай бұрын
dont forget to check and set spindle orientation!
@tdg9115 ай бұрын
Awesome engineering there. Get what you pay for still applies.
@raguramspace5 ай бұрын
That was simple and super fast! Heller has been very thoughtful with the changing tool Great video Barry!
@Huvvuv5 ай бұрын
Man that Heller is one HELL of a machine
@bastian61735 ай бұрын
i see what you did there
@MakeItWithCalvin5 ай бұрын
I have seen HAAS techs "pull out" the spindle on VMC and put it back in to inspect it and there is something to be said for a cartridge-style spindle. Even if you needed a tech to do the swap, the ability to yeet the old one out and yeet the new one in is going to save a lot of time for the shop and give them a good chance at staying afloat! Here's to Barry and snapping spindles ;-)
@warmowed5 ай бұрын
That fixture is genius!
@amitgiribuwa49485 ай бұрын
Nice method sir, to remove and fix the spindle. It takes more person but you remove and fix single handedly...Boom..... 🙏
@Atlascm5 ай бұрын
Hope Tony reminded you to open the chiller valves back up after you were done ;)
@bazwabat15 ай бұрын
I was all prepared to call BS on how long it would take but that design is pretty neat. We had our Service techs replace the spindle in one of our Doosan 5100s and it took them a day. (And then had to come back as the CTS developed a leak from the valve in the back of the spindle!)
@lvxleather5 ай бұрын
A bad spindle sounds like a HAAS problem 🤷 That was like watching Barry deliver a baby, good job Barry 😆
@anusficker-hw2xe5 ай бұрын
this is a certified barry moment
@Schraubergott5 ай бұрын
Jes we are Heller. Ouer great Maschin from Germany. 😊
@barrysetzer5 ай бұрын
💪
@AugustZephyr5 ай бұрын
Wish our company planned this far ahead. Keep up the great work Titans :)
@corybrakebill73255 ай бұрын
Every production shop should know how to work in their own machines. Half of my cncs are production cncs and you better believe I will work in or change anything I have to to keep them going. Part of a good owner or manager over a production department is learning the ins and outs to be the man to keep it all going. That’s when your worth starts to become invaluable to a company.
@owenarsenault59555 ай бұрын
Our Health and Safety team would be having a major freak-out if they seen us in a machine that wasn't locked out.
@kerbalphysicist59095 ай бұрын
Literally my first thought. And OSHA's for that matter
@StefanoLinguanotto5 ай бұрын
Why? If it's in emergency stop...
@kevind18655 ай бұрын
@@StefanoLinguanotto "Why shouldn't I wave a loaded firearm around? If it has the safety on..."
@StefanoLinguanotto5 ай бұрын
@@kevind1865 Do you fear it could move while you are in there? Do you lock out a machine when changing a part? Looks to me that the spindle he is changing is not the motor, it has no electrical connections. Therefore it is a safe operation to perform like that in my opinion.
@tommays565 ай бұрын
I am quite sure it has a CATEGORY 3 redundant, dual channel safety system
@sheepman62915 ай бұрын
I believe in having an extra spindle in stock. I ask all my machine suppliers, "do you have an extra spindle I can buy." I also ask about their service. Brother machine tools with Yamazen are my ideal machine and service providers.
@chauvinemmons5 ай бұрын
I love YAMAZEN forty years ago we bought an MV-80 They did more good to keep us in business I can't say enough to praise YAMAZEN. Even through moving our shop they were there see the machine on the truck off the truck installed and running never a bill unbelievable. My father made me sign the check for that machine. It was between Mattsura and Moriseki the people at mattsura said no matter what Mori does they were going to beat their price. I was young my father had no idea what we were buying but it cost a fortune. He never did business with the bank always cash. Boys at Mattsura were devastated to say the least I'm surprised they did not commit seppuku right there on the shop floor. I loved my Moriseki and YAMAZEN. Best service we ever got from any machine tool dealer.
@sheepman62915 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. The Yamazen salesman made a house visit, and personally ran through all the details when selling us the machine. My wife was more than impressed. I have talked with at least 10 different machine suppliers none of them even bothered to make a house visit let alone sell my wife on buying a machine. Brother machine tools are the fastest, and the most power efficient machines on the market. The power savings that can be had with a brother can add up to $5k a year with one shift. A possible $10k for a double shift. This is not including the time savings in making the part faster. A max 9.5kva power draw means you won't possibly flip a city breaker like the school did next door with their Haas VF2. Our city has problems. 2 5-axis U500 Brothers can be feed with one feeedio robot and still draw less power than a single HAAS.
@Carl-fl6wl5 ай бұрын
That's was a nice spindle change out
@adamhayes25285 ай бұрын
Great video, simple but complex all at the same time. Nice job Barry and Ben
@greg23375 ай бұрын
Okuma tech took 3 full days. And it was warranted
@victorpaleari82535 ай бұрын
Where i work, the okuma guy took 5 full days, between Internet surfing, lots of coffee and actually doing the job.
@VenturiLife5 ай бұрын
What an amazing piece of hardware.
@markdavis3045 ай бұрын
Insane spindle. Beautiful🤩
@vaclavkolar67505 ай бұрын
Now lets dare Barry changing the spindle after doing the one chip challenge
@adammiller48795 ай бұрын
I don’t mean to be that guy, Barry, but they need to fuse a plastic bushing to the tip of the jacking bolts that remove the spindle, just a little advice from a guy that’s done a lot of bearing removal/install, I know replacing a spindle is a rare occurrence but you don’t wanna be marring the machine.
@MistahHeffo5 ай бұрын
I was in charge of a Mori-Seki FMS system, we were machining transmission bell and extension housings. I had an operator running one side of the line while I was doing some tool insert changes on the other. Well, I heard this God almighty GRRRRR noise, followed by a BANG, then silence. I ran around to see what happened and opening the door on machine A, I could see the tool was WAY deeper into the material than it should have been. I don't know HOW he did it, but the dude managed to an extension housing into the fixture backwards, got the hold down clamps to close, and the fixture to set up. The spindle spun up to cutting speed and pranged into the part at full rapid speed. Destroyed the spindle. And took MONTHS to get a new one shipped from Japan. The operator got bounced around a bit after that and was let go next available opportunity.
@bunchofaddicts24 ай бұрын
Love it when Barry says boop when the bolt comes out. I do this at work aswell
@KylieGranno5 ай бұрын
So can Barry add to his resume that he's also a service tech?! 😃 Great video and just another reason Heller is AWESOME!
@jimbobjoe4 ай бұрын
That is a nice set up. Way better than the NTC machines where the stator is part of the spindle...
@aintdatsnipes1775 ай бұрын
"Supply chain issues" nice way of saying. we don't make anything and have to wait on our masters from China to send us stuff when they get around to it. Thanks for that DC!
@Gnarfendorf2 ай бұрын
Thats on greedy corpos producing where its the cheapest, thanks to globalization and capitalism. So jokes on you, aint the guys in DC alone who are responsible for that shit...
@miketanner19205 ай бұрын
Love the videos brother Just wanted to say happy Easter God bless you and your's k 👍🏻🇨🇦😁 Just saying
@busykid24755 ай бұрын
I remember experiencing my first screw up it wasn’t my fault but scared me pretty good had a tombstone tip over inside a dmg mori nhx4000 that thing landed on the spindle and messed up the whole inside pretty darn good lol
@Obychenie_Tokar_20255 ай бұрын
And you are so great there, good luck to everyone in your endeavors! 👓👓👓
@davysprocket5 ай бұрын
Step 0. SOP review and lockout/tagout lest the power cycle to the machine and it initiates a homing sequence while sir barry is inside...
@max_eley5 ай бұрын
Its a good system, just like kesslers "easy change" spindles.
@shaniegust12255 ай бұрын
Great video Barry. Informative
@CraigHollabaugh5 ай бұрын
Is Barry available for engine swaps too? Thanks for the video, enjoyed it.
@barrysetzer5 ай бұрын
LOL I dont do cars
@mgk13975 ай бұрын
But you do Grilles for trucks? 😁@@barrysetzer
@CraigHollabaugh5 ай бұрын
@@barrysetzergood!
@evilgoatgarage41935 ай бұрын
Love replacing robodrill spindles hate doing nakamura spindles
@itzzmoritzz17075 ай бұрын
Crazy Engineering from Heller!
@Amoebaaaaaa4 ай бұрын
Dang. I dont know anything about CNC and will probably never need to but this is crazy intersting.
@alex_yates5 ай бұрын
Loving the new lid Titan 🔥
@13orraxАй бұрын
2:43 reminds me of the first alien movie doing the self destruct sequence
@Sara-TOC5 ай бұрын
Great video, Barry! I'm impressed by Heller's versatility. Say hello to Tony for me! 🙂
@tonymoll62654 ай бұрын
Hi Sara!!
@Sara-TOC4 ай бұрын
@@tonymoll6265 Hey Tony! You’re a rockstar!
@NerdlyCNC5 ай бұрын
pretty awesome
@MonkBonk-fg3qu5 ай бұрын
good video guys
@bigboy82855 ай бұрын
"suppy chain issues" i tend to call it "companies not caring about their customers as much as they used to"
@funwitharobot5 ай бұрын
Sure, you can do it yourself, but you void any warranty on the replacement parts and the machine from your dealer. Is it worth the risk?
@rb80495 ай бұрын
Impressive this can be done quickly and accurately without banging it up and using large hammers.
@aschnaub15 ай бұрын
No lock out tag out??? Dangerous even if just 2 of you!
@jeremymatthies7265 ай бұрын
@Titans of CNC wait, you mean Barry fixed something? 🤔🫣😁😂. Sorry buddy, Titan set you up for that in the intro and I couldn't resist. 🤣 @Titan so how many takes was it to say that intro about breaking spindles without laughing? Barry, you did an awesome, bang up job explaining the process.
@pupetxls25 ай бұрын
Can't belive you've used a steel hammer for the dowel pins
@bazwabat15 ай бұрын
Why? Thats how I've removed something like that.
@pupetxls25 ай бұрын
@@bazwabat1 you have no feel with a steel hammer, if its crooked it will go in, deforming the hole, it can also easily crack the threaded part of the pin (inner thread)
@nine0ten7715 ай бұрын
If it took half a day to change out the spindle, it would still be money in the bank!
@blah_z5 ай бұрын
7:22 in did we forget tightening sequence?
@tonymoll62655 ай бұрын
So easy, even a caveman (or Barry) can do it!! 🤣
@barrysetzer5 ай бұрын
LOL Tony
@tomaszkluska64195 ай бұрын
Thanks !!!
@ThoreE.5 ай бұрын
3 Weeks !? Never waited longer than 3 days.
@user-vn6hi2bi3g5 ай бұрын
How much does this spindle cost? How much does Heller spindle tool cost? Ray
@lumpygasinavacuum84495 ай бұрын
I would have been much slower on turning the bolt that brings the new spindle into position. However I have built injection molds and have experience with hyper precision mechanical seals and many other features of mold making that you can not smash the metals together when disassembling and pressure of threads can create when any resistance is encountered. Cheers earth is flat. No elevation angles to stars can be measured from a curving line and earths surface if a sphere would curve.😊
@mehmettemel87255 ай бұрын
Why not it's a tangent then.
@jonathansloan42055 ай бұрын
Threads hand tight before dowels?
@4418CARLOU5 ай бұрын
Why didn't you lube the seals?
@user-yp4th2lc6b5 ай бұрын
Lock out/Tag out! Safety?
@martinparik74385 ай бұрын
To ne, čas jsou peníze.
@mahmoudelraiis5 ай бұрын
Impressive and I hope the spindle was replaced to make a video not out of necessity otherwise I would be worried here 😂. How much is the heller replacement spindle for?
@innominatum99065 ай бұрын
I'd say at it would be at least 15k but Im just guessing with my lacking knowledge having seen prices on spindles for Mazak and DMG =)
@rncbmx24565 ай бұрын
i thought the same thing. why are they replacing a spindle already?
@mahmoudelraiis5 ай бұрын
@@innominatum9906 i would be surprised if so buddy. I’ve seen 30k and up… but most we use around here are Japanese.
@TheMoody8765 ай бұрын
I wonder what the price of that replacement spindle is
@Xphinity5 ай бұрын
Should have show cased the safety of doing something like this. Rapid overridden to lowest setting, E-stop in
@flikflak245 ай бұрын
Only 60 newton meter ? ( never changed a spindle myself btw ) And there I though it would be at least as hard as we had to as with out mk6 to capto c8 toolholder adapter witch is about 150 Newton meter but then agen the adapter only had one bolt well the spindle have 10 Well you lean something new every day
@jeffwinkelman65745 ай бұрын
How did a spindle go down on a 1 year old ish machine is the real question
@travistucker73175 ай бұрын
Boom!
@AlejandroPerez-pu5zc5 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Why are they changing it? Unless its damaged?
@travistucker73175 ай бұрын
@@AlejandroPerez-pu5zc its probably a demo for the heller guys
@verakoo61875 ай бұрын
They're a educational youtube channel. nothing visibily wrong with the old one he took out, if they actually broke a it we'd be seeing video of how Barry crashed first lol.
@mehmettemel87255 ай бұрын
Ahhh all those Kennametal tools pushing the machine to it's limits.😂🤣
@davids84935 ай бұрын
Barry, no digital read out 12" level? So it can be 0.0 accurate. 😂😂 Great job. I wonder how much the removal jig costs.
@nathanthomas81845 ай бұрын
No molly bond used? Titan keep on BOOMING on
@johnwick71754 ай бұрын
How often do spindles fail on these types of machines? I always thought they would "eventually" fail because of worn out bearing or something
@wildin135 ай бұрын
Now do it for the mynx... 😂 we've recently done it with our mynx 9500.... you're deff not doing that one my hand 😂
@samshebs36995 ай бұрын
Make sure and hit the e-stop.
@bonyobondov43645 ай бұрын
This happens when you push the machine to the limits and upload "never done before" KZbin videos 😢
@waldbar-80535 ай бұрын
Havin a extra Spindle is not cheap..... have not a spare Spindle at Hand in need... ohh boy now its gettin rly expensive.
@timch52274 ай бұрын
I wonder how this could be solved in a vertical spindle machine
@topshagy015 ай бұрын
Cool stuff as always guys. Shame i still haven't gotten a responses to my emails or messages from any of yall up there. In case theres confusion, the email address is the same as my name here. Seems pretty simple. Especially when yall do this kinda thing daily. Looking forward to response some day.
@gerrit21075 ай бұрын
What about spindle orientation calibration for tool changes?
@tonymoll62655 ай бұрын
If you install the spindle in the same orientation as it was when you removed it, It will be at the same orientation and no adjustment is necessary. Of course you always do a check to make sure.
@Jamasterjsa5 ай бұрын
That is a brand new machine what was the reason to replace?
@tonymoll62654 ай бұрын
It was only done to show how easy it was to replace. There was nothing wrong with the installed spindle.
@CSGATI5 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the price is it scary?
@brianbeland14825 ай бұрын
never heard threaded rod called "allthread" interesting.
@nicholasdeback9328Ай бұрын
Where did this spindle removal tool come from?
@jackabubba5 ай бұрын
How to spot a European designed and engineered machine! Effortless and precise!
@phillhuddleston94455 ай бұрын
Depends, their cars are over complicated and a PITA to work on, after 100K miles they are nearly worthless because they are too expensive to maintain once they start needing parts replaced more often, this especially applies to Mercedes and BMW.
@jackabubba5 ай бұрын
@@phillhuddleston9445 Not talking about cars. Engineering wise, no high end CNC machine shop runs Haas....
@phillhuddleston94455 ай бұрын
@@jackabubba Many of them do!
@user-gv4sv8bb5t5 ай бұрын
I use a 10000 grit stone on my face after I shave, like all good machinists do.
@leensteed78615 ай бұрын
Did the spindle really go bad already?
@MarioAPN5 ай бұрын
No. Just a promo.
@AChicken-sh1gc5 ай бұрын
this is much easier than changing an iPhone battery
@Yourmommaluvsme5 ай бұрын
Click clackiddy Duck, that was fast as FOOOk! Good job Barry
@paytonrogers53235 ай бұрын
What kinda wrench did you use snap on blue point I use to do spindle repairs for a company near me
@Nathan-vq9chАй бұрын
Pre load ? 1mill in the bar feeder getting ready
@rolandtamaccio32855 ай бұрын
If full ceramic bearings we are talking quite a few thousand dollar$ ,,, ?
@tonymoll62655 ай бұрын
Not ceramic bearings.
@dwaynesykes6945 ай бұрын
Ceramic bearings aren't actually good.
@rolandtamaccio32855 ай бұрын
@@dwaynesykes694 ,,, please explain . I've been told they can survive a crash ? ,,, Although I am skeptical ,,, !
@dwaynesykes6945 ай бұрын
@@rolandtamaccio3285 Ceramic is "harder" than steel, but is brittle. The bearing races will still be made of steel even on a ceramic bearing, so the benefit of the extra hardness is questionable. If a crash is bad enough to damage conventional precision steel bearings, it's likely bad enough to either crack ceramic bearings or damage the steel races on a ceramic bearing. That said, maybe there's some new all-ceramic magical technology I'm not aware of.
@rolandtamaccio32855 ай бұрын
@dwaynesykes694 ,,, that's why I said full ceramic . There are extremely expensive spindle bearings available with races and elements , made with ceramic ,,, !
@TheGriffon225 ай бұрын
I need to know! Did the level get dropped after getting the new spindle in?
@monsieurb245 ай бұрын
where is the o-ring between spindle and face mount for your coolant????!!!!
@monsieurb245 ай бұрын
on the spindle , nice ;)
@tonymoll62655 ай бұрын
Yes, the the coolant that sprays around the tool. It's M8 coolant.
@mikelawson40185 ай бұрын
Where is that spindle removal jig from?
@tonymoll62654 ай бұрын
It is custom made by Heller for this configuration.
@quadproper5 ай бұрын
slidehammer...we call it "wichser" (wanker) :D
@user-sv3re6wm7r5 ай бұрын
Did you reset up reference position axes after changing spindle?
@tonymoll62654 ай бұрын
If you place the new spindle at the same orientation as the one you removed, the reference point will be good. We always double check it, but usually no change is needed.
@KaeIthas5 ай бұрын
Hes broken alot but never changed a spindle XDDD
@loukola53535 ай бұрын
Stop crashing it and you won't have to do that. 🤪
@sumedhshahare18595 ай бұрын
Music name at 1:30 please
@BrilliantDesignOnline5 ай бұрын
Surprisingly easy.
@damientoomey11945 ай бұрын
Did u need to reset spindle orient position?
@funone87165 ай бұрын
You could save a lot of time with a cordless impact.
@Fullion-CA5 ай бұрын
You can strip alot of threads with a cordless impact too.
@funone87165 ай бұрын
@@Fullion-CA It's called Common Sense. Only talking about mechanics that know how to use them properly. Anybody stripping threads while repairing a machine tool needs to GTFO of the shop. I use an 18volt to change chuck jaws all the time.
@reynaldorosas41875 ай бұрын
How about spindle change on other machine... aside from Heller 😅