TJLC Explained: [Episode 31] If It's Not Gay, Then Why?

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TJLC Explained

TJLC Explained

Күн бұрын

If you don't believe the writers are going for a love story, a lot of things don't make very much sense.
TJLC stands for The Johnlock Conspiracy or the idea that the writers of BBC Sherlock have intended for John and Sherlock to end up in a relationship together since the start.
Sources:
1. SDCC 2016
• "Sherlock" Cast & Crew...
2. SDCC 2015
• SHERLOCK Comic Con Panel
3. Mark Gatiss on TPLOSH
• Mark Gatiss on The Pri...
4. List of awards BBC Sherlock has been nominated for or won
en.wikipedia.o...
(johnlock bingo)
tjlc.tumblr.com...

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@dex9499
@dex9499 8 жыл бұрын
ms. hudson is basically sherlock's mum, if she thinks he's gay then it's official
@kendra9002
@kendra9002 8 жыл бұрын
Can't two bros be jealous over each other's girlfriends, comment on each other's cheekbones, be mistaken as gay by their closest friends and other gay people and leave the other one's wedding early in a heartbreaking scene without it being romantic? Jeez.
@is0pod315
@is0pod315 7 жыл бұрын
Just bros being bros!
@ShiroWolfy
@ShiroWolfy 7 жыл бұрын
ριzzα нєιяєѕѕ lets hope the brohug this ep is followed by a brokiss next ep of s4
@cha5
@cha5 7 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
@D1sc0rd-
@D1sc0rd- 7 жыл бұрын
Can't a bro cut out and paste his best mates head onto the naked form of Leonardo Da Vinci's anatomically perfect male body without people calling it gay? Gosh
@VideoAulaslo
@VideoAulaslo 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but your life is a lie.
@story.struck
@story.struck 8 жыл бұрын
The fact that Sherlock's heart literally started again because of John is the gayest thing ever seriously there is no competition.
@julian_wolf
@julian_wolf 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@foxynonym6384
@foxynonym6384 9 ай бұрын
FR
@Raindr0psssssssss
@Raindr0psssssssss 8 жыл бұрын
I have literally no idea how you can possibly watch sherlock and not pick up on ANY of the gay subtext? ?? ? ?!
@Emilyweasel2023
@Emilyweasel2023 7 жыл бұрын
Lyra Melpomene. I noticed that too and I did wonder about what was going on! But then I thought about the fact my friends always called me a lesbian at school. I always vehemently denied it, because I was in denial and couldn't cope with the fact that I wasn't who I thought I was. I think this could be what's happening here in John's case.
@emilykinsella1110
@emilykinsella1110 7 жыл бұрын
Or it could be that he thinks his feelings are unrequited as suggested by many other observant awesome people. Or both. Something like that.
@D1sc0rd-
@D1sc0rd- 7 жыл бұрын
God, I can't believe I'm saying this. . . it's just heteronormativity.
@D1sc0rd-
@D1sc0rd- 7 жыл бұрын
I personally noticed it the moment they first met, but I'm not trying to brag. They make it so _obvious_ while also making it flow so _well_ that most people observe and think enough to notice it.
@SwedishTourist
@SwedishTourist 2 жыл бұрын
Hm… well here’s one take on it. The only reason that he reacts when people talks about women, is because with women, the stakes are higher. With them, it’s for real. With them, he’s at risk of having to face his biggest fear; feelings. Sherlock is an man who learnt at a young age that feelings only get you hurt. Being cold hearted is his coping mechanism, which has kept him from being hurt ever since he was a kid, very efficiently even. Therefore, his braniac image is all he cares about, he thinks that’s all he has. When he solves crimes he’s in control of his feelings, and when he gets complimented on his logic skills he loves it because that’s what builds up his self worth, his ego. Just like women way too often are reliant on their looks to feel worthy. Without his brain, he’d only be an awkward nerd with no social skills and no friends (which is why he come to value John so much). So… by forcefully explaining that he’s not dating women, he is just making it damn clear to himself and others that he’s not weak. For example: When he refuses Molly, the stakes are obviously high, because she’s literally a potential emotional trap, something he doesn’t want to come close to. His defense mechanism goes bananas, and he just cold heartedly shakes her off, and manages to do so without hesitation because he’s not even into her. Also he’s sort of a dick, haha. I can even go as far as saying that the fact that Sherlock likes Molly so much as a friend, tells me that he might have fallen for her if his mental health was better. However, when John asks intimate things like that, Sherlock is at no risk of becoming emotionally attached - simply because he’s not into men! And since Sherlock knows for sure that a man would never have any emotional impact on him whatsoever, he has no reason to put up any walls. He doesn’t need his guard to protect him against feelings when it comes to men, because there are none. In the end, Sherlock can calmly tell John that he doesn’t want a relationship. And the reason he does that is not because he cares what others think of his sexuality, but because he needs to justify and keep up his cold hearted self image. To him self, and to others. The writers just tried to make the story more entertaining by including this comedic suspense. It’s meant to keep us on our tiptoes, and it works because nothing about Sherlock’s inner world is explicit. Well, apart from his mind palace, that is. And it’s a genius draw to never have Sherlock brushing the rumors off, because it keeps us wondering about this mystery man. And about Irene Adler? Well, she’s not emotional at all, and does not need his feelings for anything, so he can stay detached. And that’s very easy to him; after all that’s what he’s successfully been doing all life. He gets off on Irene because she’s safe. And that’s his trauma wound right there.
@danamichelle9892
@danamichelle9892 8 жыл бұрын
The single thing that gives me the most hope is "If anyone still cares, I'm not actually gay....Well I AM. Look at us both?" There is no "bromance" interpretation you could POSSIBLY make for that.
@wandanemer2630
@wandanemer2630 4 жыл бұрын
No heterosexual way of reading it.
@yoonahkang7384
@yoonahkang7384 2 жыл бұрын
And add to that the silent stare of John.
@dzydzy101
@dzydzy101 8 ай бұрын
all these moments put together it's so obvious, like i first watched it all at once thinking it was a gay show cuz i hadn't heard of the books before.. like it was a great show but the queerbaiting is just sad kinda homophobic, just didn't wanna lose views
@treefish008
@treefish008 7 ай бұрын
@@dzydzy101wait you watched Sherlock without knowing the Sherlock Holmes books existed???
@ADreamerWithAPen
@ADreamerWithAPen 8 жыл бұрын
If it's not gay, then why can Rebekah fill a 45 minute video with scenes directly from the show that don't make sense if it's not gay?
@madefullmetalprobably
@madefullmetalprobably 8 жыл бұрын
the show doesn't make sense if it's not gay
@Thomas_Winters
@Thomas_Winters 8 жыл бұрын
it really doesn't
@Thomas_Winters
@Thomas_Winters 8 жыл бұрын
***** no actually. Im aware of the private life of Sherlock Holmes and im currently reading the original series...which are both amazing gay.
@Thomas_Winters
@Thomas_Winters 8 жыл бұрын
***** i didn't even know who wrote what but im honestly not lying. Well actually, im listening to the audiobooks on KZbin and reading Watsons journal. (Its pretty darn cool, too! It had letters and envelopes and stuff) And...i dont have enough space on my phone for Tumblr. I use Lineplay :D Its a pretty cool app btw. I would recommend it.
@madefullmetalprobably
@madefullmetalprobably 8 жыл бұрын
***** no, i just know how to read a narrative when i see one. Im not saying the cases dont make sense (though some of them really don't without johnlock). Im saying the acting choices, music, subtext, and dialogue dont make sense. John and sherlock are best friends and have already killed for one another so, narratively speaking, where does their relationship go? Staying best friends doesnt fit the way the story is being told. The show is centered around common romantic troupes and the acting is pushing a romantic narrative. All the people involved in the making of the show are award winning professionals. They can't be doing all this by mistake; they are the ones who wrote it, filmed it, acted in it. You can't accidentally write a story with that much subtext and accidentally have your actors carry the show like a love story.
@madefullmetalprobably
@madefullmetalprobably 8 жыл бұрын
***** i actually have read the originals and trust me, it has a lot of homoerotic subtext that had to stay subtext (cause you know, the late 1800s weren't exactly kind to the gay community). But honestly that doesn't even matter because this is a MODERN ADAPTION. In this modern adaption, sherlock and john can be anything they want. According to the show's narrative, what they want is each other. Or you could just go watch the rest of the TJLC Explained series where Rebekah explains in full detail exactly how the show doesn't make sense without johnlock, seeing as though you're already here.
@zest1513
@zest1513 7 жыл бұрын
As a medical professional, I can confirm that restarting one's own heart during fatal cardiac arrest would indeed require massive amounts of super gay love. It's just basic biology and studies clearly show that platonic bromance simply wouldn't be enough, scientifically speaking. Sorry naysayers, I don't make the rules here.
@robloxcontent7936
@robloxcontent7936 Ай бұрын
the fact this was 7 yearsago... doesntmatter.DO YOU KNOW HOW MCH I WANT TO SCREAM RN BUTS ITSLIKE 2AM. FROM EXCITMETN
@coffeeaddictedwriter
@coffeeaddictedwriter 8 күн бұрын
​@@robloxcontent7936three weeks later Im here screaming with you 😂😂😂
@robloxcontent7936
@robloxcontent7936 7 күн бұрын
@@coffeeaddictedwriter NJAFHAKJFASFKHUASHFKHUASFHUIASUIFUIASFUIASF YEAYHAHAHA
@fastafa
@fastafa 8 жыл бұрын
"He comes back from the dead for John... platonically?" AHAHAH it killed me thanks for these videos! hope you have a great day (:
@shelbygregg7666
@shelbygregg7666 8 жыл бұрын
What's real sad is that I'm the only one out of all my friends and families hat can pick up on the gay subtext of Sherlock. I rather think that it completes his character beautifully. Well as a bisexual person I happen to flirt with everyone and my friends are like "Why did he say that? He's not gay" and I'm over here in my mind like:"Common! You've watched the entire series with me and you haven't picked up that Sherlock's gay?! What's with your brain?!"
@Sunny-ek8sx
@Sunny-ek8sx 7 жыл бұрын
You know what they say, "It's a show about a detective, not a detective show."
@kendra9002
@kendra9002 8 жыл бұрын
What convinced me was that John could've easily said that he was straight and ended the possibility of a romance there, but instead he chooses to say he's just not gay and leaves the idea of bisexuality open. That way it's not the "if it's you, it's okay" trope which has been done too many times as it is.
@max_bayes
@max_bayes 7 ай бұрын
its been seven years...... why didn't sherlock tell john already 😭
@meteorofedwardssky
@meteorofedwardssky 8 жыл бұрын
HOW SHERLOCK IS SO SOFT IN ASIP WHEN HE SAYS "dinner?" GOD!!!!!!!!!!!! kills me every time also, awesome video. i feel like this is the first one i should show my mom to prepare her for january. this one and the romantic tropes i think will be the most accessible to her as a casual
@martinmarmalade1651
@martinmarmalade1651 8 жыл бұрын
without tjlc the entire show makes no sence. I am not even joking. Everything. Every speech, every scene, irene Adler and "look at us both"..or "you look sad when you think he can't see u". if it's not because they are in love..then why? At this point john living happily with mary far away from sherlock doesn't make any sence at all. and that's because we saw clearly that sherlock can't live without john anymore. the same for john. LET THEM BE HAPPY pls
@benjaminleonard9588
@benjaminleonard9588 6 жыл бұрын
*cough* *cough* Brotherly love *cough* *cough*
@RebekahRambles
@RebekahRambles 8 жыл бұрын
Obsessed with these videos, usually I wouldn't have the attention span to watch long videos, but these just have me so hooked
@casualukulele
@casualukulele 8 жыл бұрын
This is very me
@botanycumberbatch497
@botanycumberbatch497 8 жыл бұрын
The two types of long videos I watch, Sherlock and your videos :))
@khover4242
@khover4242 2 жыл бұрын
Sherlock's best man speech was his (barely adjusted) wedding vows to the love of his life.
@ladyblakeney
@ladyblakeney 8 жыл бұрын
So, no lie, I kind of hated Sherlock for a while because I thought it was a jumbled up mess with bad writing and I was so confused as to why so many people liked it. And then I found these videos and my entire body went "OH! YUP, OKAY." And suddenly everything makes sense . . .
@annalhoumeau7456
@annalhoumeau7456 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you finally watched it, welcome to the fam 💃
@botanycumberbatch497
@botanycumberbatch497 8 жыл бұрын
Can't see why you ever thought it was badly written to be honest!! Respect for watching Rebekah's videos when you didn't like the show though :)
@VioletEmerald
@VioletEmerald 8 жыл бұрын
yeah like botany cumberbatch said, it doesn't really make sense to me why you, ladyblakeney, would ever have thought the show was a mess or bad writing. generally even people who assume no gay stuff love the high quality show and careful writing, etc
@ladyblakeney
@ladyblakeney 8 жыл бұрын
Well, I mean. There were characters I didn't think were necessary to the show (Molly, Sally, Anderson, Dimmock), relationships that made no sense (Sherlock and John as friends is a very weird, destructive friendship, John and Sarah never seemed very invested in each other), cases that were brilliantly plotted but that got pushed to one side in favor of random subplots (most noticeable in A Scandal In Belgravia); it all sort of meshed together to feel messy and poorly written. *shrugs* I'm no screen writer, but I do write, and it seemed a little like the second or third draft of something, where you're trying to weave all these elements from previous drafts together into something whole. The high production values further confused me (because why would you throw money at a show that seems to have no real point?) and I stopped watching after "The Reichenbach Fall" because it wasn't worth putting up with that much confusion. I feel like maybe if I had watched "The Empty Hearse" when it first came out I would have figured it out on my own? Maybe? Basically, I wasn't expecting it to actually do the thing and have John and Sherlock's romance be the through-line that holds the show together. And if you pull that out of the story, the whole thing kind of crumbles.
@niftswift
@niftswift 8 жыл бұрын
I love that this is essentially a Johnlock highlights reel.
@agostinaalvarez9254
@agostinaalvarez9254 7 жыл бұрын
in A Study in Pink, when John asks Sherlock if he has a boyfriend and he says no, John says "unattached, like me" BUT in the Latin American version, John actually says "single, like me" ;D JOHN WAS ASKING HIM OUT JOHNLOCK IS SO REAL AND I SRSLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE WHO SAY IT'S NOT I MEAN WHAT MORE EVIDENCE DO YOU WANT IT'S ALL RIGHT IN FRONT OF US
@tiffanypersaud3518
@tiffanypersaud3518 2 жыл бұрын
I just find languages fascinating :).
@steemdup
@steemdup 7 жыл бұрын
I've thought this since the first episode - Sherlock seems smitten with John when they meet in the lab (I prefer the unaired pilot, btw). And yes, Sherlock finds nothing strange in inviting a complete stranger to flatshare, but most people would. But John says yes! Mrs Hudson mentions there's a second bedroom if they'll need it (John gets pissy) (she knows Sherlock is gay so she assumes they are together). Angelo assumes John and Sherlock are on a date. Some of this is canon, some of this is creative screenwriting, some of this is supportive of Sherlock being in love with John and John continuing to be in denial. Moriarty and Magnussen epitomize skincrawling villains, and Sherlock's weakness. Sherlock is not at his best when he's vulnerable. And I still want to know: why did Mary shoot Sherlock and let Magnussen go? I'm sure she didn't expect him to survive. And why did John stay with her after he found out? And yes, Holmes and Watson together forever is canon. And so is Sherlock and John. Some folks don't support or are offended by JL, but not me. It makes sense and the attraction between them is just too obvious to ignore. I hope S4 is better than S3
@wandanemer2630
@wandanemer2630 4 жыл бұрын
He stayed with her because she was pregnant with his kid? Quite probably? And because she's a dangerous assassin who would easily kill them all if he left her? And because he doesn't know how Sherlock feels about him, also... But, mostly, I think he did it to keep Baby Rosie safe, although we all saw he wasn't able to keep the act for much longer, after Rosie was born, and pretty much jumped into the first random romantic alternative that he saw. He didn't ultimately commint to actually cheating tho, because of his high morals, and ended it himself, but that alone was enough to cause him to hate himself, only agravated by "Mary"'s "death". And then he felt so guilty and disgusted with himself that he shut Sherlock out of his life and took all of his pain on him. (Also, proyecting his own guilt, about not loving Mary in the first place, and emotionally cheating on her with Sherlock). It's all a big mess for the poor man. Brilliantly executed Evil Plan, however.
@artie4529
@artie4529 8 жыл бұрын
thank god these videos exist idk how I would survive until season 4
@RosieReins
@RosieReins 8 жыл бұрын
OMG I CAN'T WATCH THE KITTY OR JEANINE SCENES I CRINGE SO MUCH!!!
@Supercrazystar95
@Supercrazystar95 8 жыл бұрын
Same, I like Jeanine but those scenes... I just hate them hahaha.
@flowerpower3011
@flowerpower3011 7 жыл бұрын
Morissa Z. The sound of that double slurpy kiss makes me want to puke. He looks so unenthused.
@nighthanpa601
@nighthanpa601 8 жыл бұрын
I get so happy whenever you upload
@stranger.grimes2534
@stranger.grimes2534 8 жыл бұрын
PHANDOM!
@clwyork5004
@clwyork5004 8 жыл бұрын
yo iz da fandom
@nighthanpa601
@nighthanpa601 8 жыл бұрын
+PotterlockedPhangirl +Userneim \o/
@saturnflavs
@saturnflavs 5 жыл бұрын
there’s no heterosexual explanation for any of this
@vero-kd8vg
@vero-kd8vg 7 жыл бұрын
If its not gay... then why does the show even exist? The puzzles, crime-solving and side characters are all great but we all know the real reason this Sherlock is much more beloved and successful than most other adaptations :P
@wandanemer2630
@wandanemer2630 5 жыл бұрын
This series made me feel all better, after watching Season 4. And, honestly, I still believe just as much as before! It's not over yet, guys! There's still Season 5, for the Moriarty reveal, the "Mary" reveal and, of course, the Gay Elephant in the room. And also, please keep in mind that Season 4 ended with Sherlock and John back in Baker Street, together, raising baby Rosie like a happy family! Don't give up yet... There's still a LONG way to go. :)
@pigeonwithswageon4102
@pigeonwithswageon4102 Жыл бұрын
...well that didnt age well
@misshobbity
@misshobbity Жыл бұрын
6 years later *crickets* 😂😂
@wandanemer2630
@wandanemer2630 4 жыл бұрын
I will still come back these videos. All of them are so clever and beautiful! And it all makes way too much sense, for it NOT to be right. I still believe, and will continue to believe, long after Season 5 and the whole show is over. We are not stupid, and we're not wrong. The curtain hasn't fallen yet, the Game is not over, and all of this beautiful work only proves it further. 💜💜💜💜
@rachelmcgahey6302
@rachelmcgahey6302 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll second all that
@khyati7733
@khyati7733 2 жыл бұрын
How are u so sure of season 5
@Miguel-zp5un
@Miguel-zp5un 10 ай бұрын
Welp
@samjam3440
@samjam3440 8 жыл бұрын
So I found your videos about a week ago, and I've been binge-watching them every spare moment I get in the days since my discovery. I'd just like to thank you so much for taking the time to do this. I've read all the original stories since I was small and have seen almost all previous film adaptations of the lives and adventures of Holmes and Watson, so the fact that you continuously reference these resources gives you invaluable credibility, engages as educates us as viewers, helps us look at things from alternate perspectives... Seriously, thank you for the time you put into this. These hiatuses kill me. As I know they kill everyone else in our fandom. And as you stated, a lot of us second-guess ourselves, we get nervous, we think it's not going to happen. You give me hope. And I'm actually thankful that I found these videos because now it means I can re-watch the show without getting devastatingly frustrated (of course I don't get that way with the pilot - the pilot is all-around beautiful), so there's that, too. Again, thank you so much. You're so dedicated and thorough and it means so much. Looking forward to your next videos. Keep up the fantastic work.
@SanamGoli
@SanamGoli 8 жыл бұрын
"what is a scene that is the most gay - other than all of them" 😂😂😂
@palomiis98
@palomiis98 3 жыл бұрын
Why does Ms Hudson think that Watson is ill when he is about to get married... Who on earth looks ill when they are engaged
@nuttemitstil
@nuttemitstil 4 жыл бұрын
why did they always bring up romance and lgbt in the interviews and then proceed to produce the shitshow season 4 was? was it really just a cheap gay joke after all?
@AlienZizi
@AlienZizi 3 жыл бұрын
either they're clowns, or we're clowns, but probably both. hard not to feel like they were spitting in our mouth
@giuliagiaccaglia5328
@giuliagiaccaglia5328 8 жыл бұрын
My first comment on youtube ever! but you're so worthy it. I've been binge watching your videos and now I believe. I feel really dumb for believing my cup-of-coffee-eyes ( see, I'm learning! ) and buying into the silliness of " they are just really affectionate friends". I actually see it for the beautiful love story it is and I want you to know that , even though I'm not the first nor the last person you have shown the truth, what you are doing is incredibly useful and does help those of us who lack the vision or are just plain ignorant to read behind the not-so-subtle lines. Keep up the good work! And on a totally unrelated note you have a very soothing and hearth-warming smile! you have an official italian fan now! =)
@malachorfives
@malachorfives 3 жыл бұрын
god I miss pre s4 tjlc
@khyati7733
@khyati7733 2 жыл бұрын
Same 😞
@KmiiVC
@KmiiVC Жыл бұрын
absolutely
@astylinsonbyadoption5681
@astylinsonbyadoption5681 7 жыл бұрын
I want to add to what you said in the beginning about if you believe a gay romance is going to happen you have to explain every detail. The sad part about that is having legitimate proof backing up your statements but then people go 'you're overthinking and turning nothing into something' like whAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!
@Spooni3
@Spooni3 7 жыл бұрын
Outright, in-your-face umambiguous confirmation in explicit text, not just subtext and inferences because they alone aren't enough with regards to being undisputed and also providing legitimized representation. And, especially, when taking into account that the repeated Word of God from the writers say 'No' to the question of Johnlock themselves. (And to which, TJLC believed them to be lying about that, until TFP, which unfortunately shattered and legit traumatized Rebekah and other TJLCers). Even the cornerstone belief that the writers deliberately aiming for the Johnlock endgame was completely shattered when the writers revealed that they were telling the truth that 'Sherlock and John would never get together in the show' and that they never meant the gay romance, only just 'flirting' with the homoerotic subtext and queer jokes out of tangent reference to 'The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes'.
@Miguel-zp5un
@Miguel-zp5un 10 ай бұрын
Welp
@bellavlad9802
@bellavlad9802 8 жыл бұрын
I'm crazy about Johnlock, if your crazy about Johnlock.... we can be friends forever!! Love the vid, kept it up. ;)
@anamimi5722
@anamimi5722 8 жыл бұрын
we are gonna be sisters then (?)
@varinkatherinehenriksen6167
@varinkatherinehenriksen6167 7 жыл бұрын
Don't they at some point in the series say that smart is the new sexy? Unless I'm mistaken, they do, and if that happens to be the case, then when Sherlock says that John is "smarter than he looks" and agrees when John (in Sherlock's mind, so it's really Sherlock) says "pretty damn smart then" he's basically saying that he thinks John is pretty damn sexy.
@Emilyweasel2023
@Emilyweasel2023 7 жыл бұрын
My mum has never seen an episode of Sherlock all of the way through and even she's calling Johnlock after seeing bits of it.
@malachorfives
@malachorfives 4 жыл бұрын
anyone else here in fucking 2020 losing their mind
@MoogieSRO
@MoogieSRO 8 жыл бұрын
The viewer count on this series is going to triple after s4 airs.
@geneva1895
@geneva1895 7 жыл бұрын
MoogieSRO rip
@MoogieSRO
@MoogieSRO 7 жыл бұрын
Yup. Of all the things I expected to happen, them tanking their own show was... not one of them. Oh well.
@elytra404
@elytra404 10 ай бұрын
also! at 5:55 john's eyes literally very obviously dart to sherlock's lips
@harrySTINKINpotter
@harrySTINKINpotter 8 жыл бұрын
At 13:14 you called Jeanette "Janine", which is surprisingly appropriate, given both are irrelevant 'girlfriends'
@ChristyRodriguez
@ChristyRodriguez 8 жыл бұрын
The title cracks me up. Wonderful video, as usual! Made my (slightly oblivious) husband watch this and by the end he was like - wow, this is so blatant! So thanks 👍😘👍
@holymothers
@holymothers 7 жыл бұрын
Aww you didn't mention that the "heart" Moriarty tries to burn is John in the bonfire???? That's significant??
@abcde_ghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz2188
@abcde_ghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz2188 2 жыл бұрын
I will say, though, that as someone who relates a lot to sherlock and really understands him, some of these moments aren't exactly queerbaiting. fx: sherlock was being "petty" towards/around john's girlfriend because that's his personality. he is usually very petty and always corrects people when they make mistakes. another example: when sherlock crashed john and sarah's date it didn't have anything to do with sherlock being jealous or anything. he merely found an opportunity (john's date) that would help him with his case and used it for his own good. i ship johnlock (or i think that sherlock is at least romantically interested in john) but i think it's important to take context and the nature of sherlock and john's character into consideration before you call any scene/moment gay/homoerotic. and i'm not trying to nitpick i just think it's important. sherlock also describes john's wedding as going into battle because there's going to be lots of people that he doesn't know very well and he has to make a speech about john in front of those people. this was a running theme in the episode, people being afraid that sherlock would panic because he had to make a speech in front of lots people.
@SionEoinPaytonJesse
@SionEoinPaytonJesse 8 жыл бұрын
Aww, I feel a bit bad writing this but I am excited to hear about your HLV pain? Having seen all of your videos up to now, I anticipate that you mean the kind of pain when you're empathizing with Sherlock and John's painful moments. When I started reading M Theory, I skipped down to HLV first (analysis of the relevant blog posts first, then the episode) because I had an idea of what it means to me and it made my heart swell reading it, made me love it even more. I think that because the romance is mounting from the beginning, HLV reveals a lot of their love for each other and seeing how far Sherlock is willing to go for John (he'd do anything) and that's why I like it so much. M Theory also gave me a lot more to think about in terms of sussing out what Mary's motivations most likely are, in addition to Janine's and Moriarty's. When I started to understand the things going through their minds, it seemed like the only thing left is the main story: that John and Sherlock are deeply in love with each other and circumstances keep driving them apart. As I've been watching your videos over the past few weeks and rewatching the episodes for the upteenth time, I've realized that I can't actually think of another story with this level of romantic tension. I'd fall back on X-Files but it felt like "I just know it's going to work out for these two" in the early years of that show (heteronormativity why you so omnipresent??). I didn't even think "John" the first time I watched the interview with Gatiss and he said the phrase "grumpy bisexual" but OMG YOU ARE RIGHT. It helps me a lot to have others act as the guide in terms of showing the way the writers change their tune in the interviews. When they pull the rug out from under the audience at large in the show, they could also still clearly say "regarding the misleading interviews: you should have seen it!" because they are telling us that they're intentionally misdirecting for the sake of the show. Because they love the show, and they take it even more seriously than we do (probably. maybe. possibly they take it exactly as seriously, hehehe). I've been a lot happier in my day to day since I stopped being deeply disappointed feeling sure that it was mindless queer-baiting. I have acute depression and any meaningful happiness in my life is a big help. I've even been tapering off alcohol (have to go slow because I have moderate withdrawal and we can't afford the inpatient detox copayment--and no, my doctor is not happy about it, but we already did bankrupcty earlier this year to clear massive medical debt for a surgery our son had and it will be bad for us to go into debt again if it can be at all avoided). I'm not saying my happiness hinges on BBC Sherlock (at all)--a lot of it comes from the support and validation I get from fellow trans and queer people every day in the support groups I engage with. But this helps too. It's really nice. :)
@Jack-gu3rm
@Jack-gu3rm 7 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Mrs. Hudson assumes that John is sick because he is a bisexual man who grew up in the 80s....she thinks he has HIV/AIDS. :/
@youtuber_boi7672
@youtuber_boi7672 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how the line "I like my doctors to be clean shaven" can be interpreted in any other way but gay
@EnderHeart5911
@EnderHeart5911 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, EVERYONE needs to see this.
@flowerpower3011
@flowerpower3011 7 жыл бұрын
Why is this so LOADED?! LOL
@fcy2569
@fcy2569 7 жыл бұрын
I am so much in love with your bookshelf and book collections🙈🙈🙈
@Theoingwersen7094
@Theoingwersen7094 Жыл бұрын
Sherlock might me bad with humans and interpreting their emotions..but he is also one of the smartest and most observant people ever So let me ask you: if the most observant man alive thinks that you're flirting with him..don't you think you might me flirting with him? Another thing is that Sherlock is obsessed with being right and he corrects everyone and everything (even the TV), yet he never attempted to correct anyone about him and John dating.
@sissisellitto6922
@sissisellitto6922 8 жыл бұрын
i already love this vid just bc of the title.
@gipsiusy
@gipsiusy 8 жыл бұрын
in the past days we had a discussion on a page talking explicitly about this I'M IN LOVE
@nerdcom-fk3nj
@nerdcom-fk3nj 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like when they finally get together there's gonna b loads of footage that they show of previous scenes but with added bits, like the grave speech will be shown with "I love you" at the end as well as a bit that's always been there but we didn't know about it!! Can't wait for the three garridebs ep
@aridine7elric
@aridine7elric 8 жыл бұрын
Fire exposes our priorities... like gun fire! Great video, I cannot believe this much gets past casual viewers!
@silviasalamino3395
@silviasalamino3395 8 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU SOOO MUCH THANK YOU FOR KEEPING JOHNLOCK ALIVE
@whiteorchidee7954
@whiteorchidee7954 11 ай бұрын
Ich sehe zwei Menschen die sich schätzen, über alles. Ich sehe zwei Menschen die das schlimmste und das beste voneinander wissen. Ich sehe zwei Menschen die Angst haben das zu verlieren und deshalb nicht weiter gehen. Was ich nicht sehe: wieso das Geschlecht eine Rolle spielt. Was ich sehe ist die Romantik
@ss0ggyfry
@ss0ggyfry 6 ай бұрын
Ja. Ja, ich stimme dir voll und ganz zu. Was Sie gerade gesagt haben, ist das, was ich rund um die Uhr denke
@peachmaze
@peachmaze 8 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful way to start the weekend
@Leindy3
@Leindy3 7 жыл бұрын
30:00 Sherlock Watson - I have tears in my eyes
@emz33
@emz33 7 жыл бұрын
"What's a scene that's really gay.............besides all of them *sigh*" Lol I feel the pain :)
@loveg4603
@loveg4603 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you specifically pointed this out, but in the scene where Irene reads all her texts to Sherlock in front of John, they all ended with "Let's have dinner", in which John directly makes the conclusion that she flirted with Sherlock. Meanwhile we have another character who also seems to ask about dinner a lot *cough*Sherlock*cough*, see where I'm going? Anyway, I'm really looking forward to your HLV video since it's my favorite episode (and the one who made me tear up a bit). So thank you for making these videos, you mean so much to a lot of us!
@treefish008
@treefish008 7 ай бұрын
2 bruhs saving each others lives living together constantly being mistaken for being a couple and running through London holding hands cause they’re not gay
@kayleegirard9231
@kayleegirard9231 7 жыл бұрын
*"hearts"*? As in more than one? Sherlock is a Time Lord!!!😁
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 7 жыл бұрын
I KNEW IT
@kayleegirard9231
@kayleegirard9231 7 жыл бұрын
SuperWholock confirmed!!!! ( Or just Wholock if you prefer it.)
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 7 жыл бұрын
Kaylee Girard .... what is the 'super'?
@kayleegirard9231
@kayleegirard9231 7 жыл бұрын
Supernatural. I don't watch it, but the original thing is 'SuperWholock' not just Wholock.
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 7 жыл бұрын
Kaylee Girard oooooh ok, thanks
@ilaydai5159
@ilaydai5159 8 жыл бұрын
I was just going to sleep and this popped. Fuq sleeping i am going to watch this 😍 i really love you and your videos rebekah 😊💕
@ilaydai5159
@ilaydai5159 8 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahah that last scene 😂😂 i am deaded
@rekindlefitness
@rekindlefitness 2 жыл бұрын
This is a phenomenal Johnlock video. You're amazing 😍
@LaurenceMills98
@LaurenceMills98 Ай бұрын
I think this video has aged better than you might think-in fact, it has aged far better than the series BBC Sherlock has or ever will, given its frankly ridiculous finale. Why did they include all of those "comedic" queer-coded interactions between Sherlock and Watson? Because, if they never intended for either character to be interpreted as queer, it just reads as cheap gay jokes-even by the standards of the 2010s. Truly, the TJLC literary interpretation of BBC Sherlock elevated it beyond its source material!
@alexprincegoudy8034
@alexprincegoudy8034 7 жыл бұрын
I was making my girlfriend watch Sherlock and I had yet to tell her about Johnlock, we got to The Hounds of Bakersville episode and when Jawn said "...with your cheek bones and turning your collor up so you look cool..." she looked over at me and said 'Who just causually mentions their best friends cheek bones...is this...something more?' Like come on I swear I didn't tell her and Ik something similar to this happened with some girl and her boyfriend but i swear I'm not making this up like #rainbows
@oswin9827
@oswin9827 8 жыл бұрын
Yes to it all! I'm going to begin placing bets with people who don't believe in Johnlock. Also, at around 13:15, it's *Jeanette, not Janine :)
@MK-moth
@MK-moth 8 жыл бұрын
I was literally trying to explain how gay Sherlock is to a friend in class and he asked me for proof. I couldn't think of anything at the moment but then you made this video. I need to make him watch the TJLC series because you explain it better than I ever could
@izzie2194
@izzie2194 8 жыл бұрын
While I agree with everything else in this video, there are three things I took differently. 1) "I wish you weren't whatever you are" might have meant "if only you weren't so crazy. If you were normal, I'd like you more." Not necessarily "If only you liked women." 2) When John keeps mentioing the dinner and how Sherlock has a girlfriend, I took that as just shock and amazememt. Sherlock is so...not openly into women, it's strange seeing him with one. Yes, that probably was jealousy, but there are many interpetations. 3) Same thing with the proposal. He just fake proposed to a woman that will be heartbroken. John is a kind person, a compassionate one. He can imagine what she will feel when she learns that was fake. And he is trying to understand why Sherlock is so detached from social norms that he thinks it's okay to do this. But anyway, the things you said about the wedding made all the sense in the world! I do believe John loves Mary...but maybe not as much as he love you know who. And at 35:25 I love how in the close captions it says, "heroic throat clearing" 😄 Anyway, really glad I found you. Gonna be binge watching all of your videos now!
@christinabeyer9298
@christinabeyer9298 5 жыл бұрын
Sherlock needed Janine only for the case "Magnussen" and he obviously didn't have fun with to fake a relationship. He felt so clearly uncomfortable in her presence. There wasn't any other possibility to get into Magnussens office, because Janine was his personal assistant. I have to protect him here. Janine knows, and it was not about Sherlock is crazy. I mean, they had a "relationship" and never sex, not even once? "I know what kind of man you are" meant she knews Sherlock isn't interested in women. Janine: "I wish you weren't, what ever it is what you are." Sherlock: "I know." She meant actually the same. Sherlock isn't detached from social norms, he only didn't understand them always that's why he needs the help from John to understand better how to deal with people.
@ReticentObsessive
@ReticentObsessive 7 жыл бұрын
Bless you for this! Exactly what my fragile doubting heart needed in anticipation of the final problem.
@nanoname
@nanoname 8 жыл бұрын
I just read the entirety of the Mofftiss sexual-identity post-SDCC interview and now I am sad again, and so I need to re-watch all your videos :'(
@strongsarah
@strongsarah 8 жыл бұрын
I've learned to avoid watching or reading interviews, maybe after the run of the show finishes, we'll get something honest out of them. Till then, stick to these vids and the show, and fic!
@notjamin
@notjamin 8 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite TJLCE episode. To me, it's the most convincing one and I've watched it several times.
@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863
@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I believe that Sherlock is bisexual. Mainly due to Irene Adler and him being able to fake a relationship with a woman. HOWEVER, I believe his attractions lean about 99.9% towards John. To me he BARELY qualifies, but IS bi.
@ShadowDreamersHorse
@ShadowDreamersHorse 8 жыл бұрын
So, I dont have a tumblr account or anything, so I'll just say what i think here. Season 4 so far seems to be markeded like an action movie, full of thrilling dark scenes. (I do think its gonna have a lot of action, but i also think its going to be very, very emotional.) So I think they want to keep the casuals close, epecially those who dont want too much emotion. Mofftiss is doing it right, softly, gently, so none of the casuals notice before its "Too late" (And everything explodes into rainbows and kisses and unicorns.) :)
@Thomas_Winters
@Thomas_Winters 8 жыл бұрын
i seriously think their hiding the romance by using that mega-dark super-action, lady-lovin' trailer.
@NA-wv7qk
@NA-wv7qk 8 жыл бұрын
It's impossible to answer all of these! Even if someone can answer one of these, you can't answer them all, barely any! I LOVE IT!
@analopes7384
@analopes7384 8 жыл бұрын
i'm dying lmao. why is this so obvious?????? also, antis please, answer all questions in this video, i need some fun
@Vidgirl8
@Vidgirl8 8 жыл бұрын
Hello again! :) I forgot to ask, what type of camera do you use? You've got brilliant resolution! (to go along with the brilliant deductions!) January can't get here fast enough!
@Oliver-vs1kd
@Oliver-vs1kd 8 жыл бұрын
you are the best!! Everyone who doesn't believe that Johnlock is real should watch your videos. I enjoy you talking, you are such a fun and entertaining person. I love your voice. THAT SHIRT THOUGHT
@iamjohnlocked2532
@iamjohnlocked2532 Жыл бұрын
19:57. Love how “ fire exposes our priorities” and Sherlock is rescuing John more than his own wife and johns focus is not on Mary, she’s blurry, but only on Sherlocks face.
@icecreamguru7584
@icecreamguru7584 7 жыл бұрын
HELP SEASON 4 IS JUST ANNOYING
@elenpena42564
@elenpena42564 8 жыл бұрын
I literally clap and giggle when I see the update on your videos. Rebekah, you´re awesome
@radishrain6738
@radishrain6738 8 жыл бұрын
[ Yess! A new video :D I recently found your channel by the video: 'Sherlock Is Gay' a few days ago, and I am very happy I did :) ]
@katharinakecht8748
@katharinakecht8748 2 жыл бұрын
I take 'Sherlock is a girls Name' as a code for a confession 💅🏻
@mori5509
@mori5509 8 жыл бұрын
I wasn't looking for answers but I still found them in TJLC.
@fifysky8587
@fifysky8587 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not an English speaker, so it could mean anything, but what's the use of "thank you" after John says it's all fine? To me, it means Sherlock blatantly thanks John for accepting his homosexuality. Does it? Because if you read the line like that, this is THE most convincing evidence!
@Worldbuilder
@Worldbuilder 8 жыл бұрын
A "grumpy bisexual" and a "camp gay"? Yeah. We know who they're talking about, don't we... :D
@iluvbaseball64
@iluvbaseball64 8 жыл бұрын
mark talking about tplosh makes me cry I am so weak oh lord
@RandomNexus
@RandomNexus 7 жыл бұрын
Rebekah, srsly, you make me smile so much with your descriptions/phraseology/humor in all of the vids, but this one really had a lot of fun moments. Also, not to be creepy-stalkerish or anything, because I know I said it in a previous comment, but I really do like your hair like this. Lovely. Enjoying all of these vids so much, and I'm dreading getting to the end, because they've been like little fixes for my Sherlock addictions, y'know? Thanks for all your efforts, and that of your sources and helpers, for making them!
@MrSpock-wt8py
@MrSpock-wt8py 8 жыл бұрын
Ok I thought nothing could top soundtracks/score, but then you did the princess bride and then I was like nothing can top this! And then I read the title of this (I haven't even watched it yet) and I'm like welp... i feel like this is gonna beat romantic tropes :P
@MrSpock-wt8py
@MrSpock-wt8py 8 жыл бұрын
Yep I was right.... they keep getting better :)
@MrSpock-wt8py
@MrSpock-wt8py 8 жыл бұрын
:)
@milo1728
@milo1728 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not gay if you say no homo
@ranncarlos
@ranncarlos 8 жыл бұрын
Why is Sherlock's happy place in his Mind Palace in the building where John first saved Sherlock's life in ?!!!?!
@ranncarlos
@ranncarlos 8 жыл бұрын
I agree! Somebody even posted a comprehensive bulleted list of all the "If Sherlock(the show) isn't a love story, then why did... " and I'm sure you've seen it (though I was wondering why it wasn't mentioned in the video) Don't worry, I trust you with all my heart! Thanks for your hard work again Rebekah!! 💓
@thatredpixie
@thatredpixie Ай бұрын
Jeannette also wearing the same cloak as sherlock 😭
@smileywatts8691
@smileywatts8691 8 жыл бұрын
Just this morning I was talking with my best friend about Tjlc on Tumblr and I was all like"You MUST READ 'EM ALL!!*referring to the infinite theories that proves its existence*,and here you are making a video on the last theory I read on tumblr.I love your video so much,thanks for making me and many other Johnlocker so happy and faithful ♡♡♡
@kasiaa521
@kasiaa521 4 жыл бұрын
watching this 3 years after s4 is painfuuuuuul
@greciayip
@greciayip Жыл бұрын
if they really care about lgbt representation why have they never stated it as much? either in the show, or outside. Why did moffat deflect so stupidly the question? and why do they advertise the show as a gay story, why has every character explicitly assumed they were a gay couple, only to never actually confirm it? that's like, textbook queerbating, and it's the only thing i don't agree with in this channel
@druidriley3163
@druidriley3163 8 ай бұрын
The show was based off the movie "The Secret Life of Sherlock Holmes" in which Sherlock is most certainly gay.
@MissGeorgiex1
@MissGeorgiex1 7 жыл бұрын
Johnlock is my all time favourite ship 😍 I adore them beyond all comprehension and I still believe in them despite TST :(
@thatredpixie
@thatredpixie Ай бұрын
I whole heartedly believe they where so adamant on wanting johnlock to be a surprise thats why it never became canon and the series ended unfinished. Had to come from a place of ego, especially since as the show progressed these interviews appeared to be more and more passive aggressive. Writers wanting to be more clever than their audience, as if their audience picking up on the clues they purposefully placed is somehow ruining their build up
@LaurenceMills98
@LaurenceMills98 Ай бұрын
I think that they were at least willing to play around with the idea, even if only in a joking manner-right up until the point where fans started to engage with the subtext seriously. Honestly, I just think they grew resentful of their large, vocal queer audience, so they decided to throw in the towel for season 4 and phone-in some random, tonally dissonant bullshit so they could get it over with and take home their paychecks 😂
@kayelleabajian5775
@kayelleabajian5775 7 жыл бұрын
This made me feel SOO much better. Thank you so much Rebekah for doing this you're awesome! :D
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