"Now We Have A Common Enemy" He Says

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Star Trek · The Next Generation · s05e03 · Ensign Ro
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@tjwparso 2 жыл бұрын
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@tjwparso
@tjwparso 2 жыл бұрын
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@Koowluh
@Koowluh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to think Starfleet qualifications for becoming an admiral are: A. Be a blundering fool. B. Be corrupt as hell. C. Both A and B are correct.
@UndeadGhostGirl
@UndeadGhostGirl 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Kirk was never corrupt! ... i dont think...
@cryofpaine
@cryofpaine 2 жыл бұрын
@@UndeadGhostGirl he was also only an admiral for a few movies. I guess stealing a starship isn't corrupt enough for Starfleet.
@Pizza793
@Pizza793 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why picard never became an admiral. He was too smart
@RandomAmerican3000
@RandomAmerican3000 2 жыл бұрын
The term "fail upwards" exists for a reason.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
or D: Be a bitch a****** like Satie and Nechayev...
@mikeprovost
@mikeprovost 2 жыл бұрын
Picard: "No, onscreen." Aka "I'm going to rip this admiral apart without even raising my voice, and you're all going to watch."
@jackmyers8687
@jackmyers8687 2 жыл бұрын
Public put down. Nothing like it for cathartic retribution
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 жыл бұрын
That seems to be Picard's speciality, verbally taking apart his superior officers without raising his voice. He did it to Satie and earlier, the admiral who wanted to take Lal away from Data and he did it here......
@flamingspinach
@flamingspinach Жыл бұрын
The communication literally came in on a "secured channel", it had to have been against some Starfleet policy to take the call in front of the entire bridge staff, lol. I'm surprised the admiral didn't just hang up on Picard!
@TheColSamson
@TheColSamson 9 ай бұрын
"Hold my wine, Number One. I'm about to dunk on this man in 4K"
@guillermoelnino
@guillermoelnino 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheColSamsonits the future so probably more like 64K
@tbeller80
@tbeller80 6 ай бұрын
"If that's your call, I'll support it." "I'm changing my mind." "Now I'm ordering you to do it."
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 4 ай бұрын
"Thank you for audibly stating that for the record. See you in court, sir."
@aggressiveattitudeera887
@aggressiveattitudeera887 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, there goes your career, admiral.
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's implied that he ended up at the same stockade as Ro Laren. I imagine the other inmates telling the admiral "You believed the Cardassians?! How naive can you get you moron! Even Ro Laren didn't do something as stupid as that!".
@TheNoiseySpectator
@TheNoiseySpectator 2 жыл бұрын
Throw him in prison for something he did not do deliberately? I doubt Federation law would work that way. But, I wonder what would they do with him? Recommendations?
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheNoiseySpectator He ordered Ro Laren to tell the Bajoran extremists that he'd have them armed to the teeth which was in violation of Federation law due to the Prime Directive, that was his big crime.
@JWMcLay
@JWMcLay 2 жыл бұрын
@@girlgarde bingo, that alone is enough to Court Marshal the naive and complacent dopey Admiral. Claiming ignorance is not enough to get you off in this case.
@awesomemccoolname7111
@awesomemccoolname7111 Жыл бұрын
Nah, this is starfleet, they like their admirals a little crazy.
@OptimusWombat
@OptimusWombat 2 жыл бұрын
Just another Starfleet Badmiral. Picard has guys like these for lunch.
@stevengalloway8052
@stevengalloway8052 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the Admiral's look there at the end. He suddenly realized that his beans were eaten by the Cardassians, and he didn't even know it... 😆
@Mortified42
@Mortified42 9 ай бұрын
Lots of beans
@brianthompson5672
@brianthompson5672 9 ай бұрын
Well played sir
@freddie-fucknmercury891
@freddie-fucknmercury891 6 ай бұрын
Oh beans
@Yashirmare
@Yashirmare 6 ай бұрын
Those were my beans Max! I was eating those beans!
@christophergolas9930
@christophergolas9930 5 ай бұрын
Then the Admiral is toast. 🙂
@Trek001
@Trek001 Жыл бұрын
You know, I just worked out why Picard wanted it on the main screen - the rest of the current shift would be witnesses and it would also be entered into the Bridge's procedural log
@deadturret4049
@deadturret4049 9 ай бұрын
Precisely. Any screw ups could just wind up getting classified if it was just between a captain and an admiral.
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. Wasn't just an opportunity for a public dressing down. This was AFTER Ro Laren had confided in him. Picard wasn't going to be caught in the same position.
@argvminusone
@argvminusone 6 күн бұрын
​@@szahmad2416 Also, Ro gets a front-row seat to the fruition of her clever plan.
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 6 күн бұрын
@@argvminusone yeah...although I think that's just a side benefit.
@StormsparkPegasus
@StormsparkPegasus 5 ай бұрын
I love that. "All hands lost?" "No sir." "Survivors?" "No sir, noone was on board."
@barnabusdoyle4930
@barnabusdoyle4930 4 ай бұрын
So the answer to All hands lost would be yes, everyone on that ship died. No survivors because no crew.
@gratux
@gratux 4 ай бұрын
​@@barnabusdoyle4930can one really die if they have never lived?
@matthewronson5218
@matthewronson5218 3 ай бұрын
Also: No one was on board
@fperri302
@fperri302 Ай бұрын
​@barnabusdoyle4930 pretty sure answer would still be no because Noone was on board and the ship was being flown completely by remote ....
@barnabusdoyle4930
@barnabusdoyle4930 Ай бұрын
@@fperri302 No, the answer would be yes. If an empty ship is destroyed, would all the crew aboard the ship also have died? Yes. All crew aboard the ship was lost. The fact that there was no crew aboard the ship is actually irrelevant to the question.
@jcortese3300
@jcortese3300 6 ай бұрын
I see an actor who can convincingly deliver a major monologue while staring at a prop showing nothing whatsoever. Wow.
@emeral311
@emeral311 5 ай бұрын
Star Trek brought elevated theatre to science fiction
@AzzleJazzle44
@AzzleJazzle44 3 ай бұрын
We all have monologues this good in the shower after the fact
@TheZetaKai
@TheZetaKai 2 жыл бұрын
Check and mate. Picard just schooled the admiral, both militarily and politically, all without firing a shot, AND while making him see the error of his ways. Don't try to outmaneuver Picard; it won't end well for you.
@david2869
@david2869 2 жыл бұрын
If you try to outmaneuver Picard, your shirt will be all over the place!
@teemusid
@teemusid 2 жыл бұрын
"...naive enough.." That sounds like a shot to me.
@jackmyers8687
@jackmyers8687 2 жыл бұрын
The REAL Picard maneuver...
@cologne2792
@cologne2792 2 жыл бұрын
This will henceforth be known as, " The Picard Outmaneuver "
@kellyweingart3692
@kellyweingart3692 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@JM.TheComposer
@JM.TheComposer Жыл бұрын
The shot of the Enterprise moving away whilst the Cardassian ships move in is truly majestic.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that was gorgeous.
@FLAME4564
@FLAME4564 2 ай бұрын
like the equivilent of a sci fi chess game :3 XD Enterprise D moving while the 2 galors move up to the way of 1 out dated bajoran ship and destroy that while Picard out smarts that starfleet Admrial. Soo indeed in Star Trek terms that is in essance 2 words. Check Mate Star Trek style.
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 Жыл бұрын
That look Picard gives Riker after "He's ordering us to withdraw?" Awesome acting by Sir Patrick without saying a word.
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 Жыл бұрын
Also I assume that this far into the series, the Picard Maneuver there was scripted.
@NeilFraser
@NeilFraser Жыл бұрын
I want to know what the shooting script said. Was this good writing, or were the words dropped on set due to the actors/director? Edit: Found the script. RIKER: He ordered us to withdraw? Picard nods silently. Riker looks back to the viewscreen. So the silence was in the script, but the actor/director dropped the nod.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 5 ай бұрын
"That fool is actually going through with it, Number One."
@stevenreichertart
@stevenreichertart 3 ай бұрын
I love the gestures in place of words. This was done many time on TNG with great psychological effect. Actions do speak louder than words.
@michaelmauch7914
@michaelmauch7914 5 күн бұрын
He says "yes, now watch this.... it's gonna be great" All without a word... just a nod
@Koulnis
@Koulnis 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like how this came across in this episode. Starfleet is built upon such a Utopian ideal, that a threat like terrorism is only seen through a lens of innocence and the absolution of peace. This was further emphasized through the Borg conflict, whose interest was singular and transparent. Out on the frontier, captains like Picard, and later on Sisko, provide Starfleet with the lens of complexity because races like the Cardassians will take advantage of that utopian naivete.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 9 ай бұрын
Picard was an extremely rare breed, a pragmatic idealist. He had principles he would never compromise, but he understood that much of the universe didn't share them, and as a consequence he had to prepare to make hard choices and face the consequences.
@evm6177
@evm6177 6 ай бұрын
El Capiton Pickard Rules.🤘Right well, it all makes sense now! Bajorans = The Taliban Cardesians / Admiral = American Military + Western weapons manufacturers.. (AKA Conspirators) Brilliant! 😎👍👍
@PaintGuru24
@PaintGuru24 6 ай бұрын
Well that sounds… relatable
@brothersofliberty2437
@brothersofliberty2437 6 ай бұрын
Sisko speech in DS9 season 2 about earth being paradise hit the nail on the head
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 5 ай бұрын
@@brothersofliberty2437For myself, always felt that Sisko oversimplified things on purpose. He was stressed, a friend of his had deserted Starfleet, and he was left with nothing but unpalatable choices. Sisko would later show he's willing to go to great lengths to save 'paradise'. And over the years he went from 'somewhat sympathetic' towards the Maquis to 'absolutely done' with them. Note that Sisko didn't give much of a damn when he learned that the Maquis had been pretty much wiped out.
@richtea615
@richtea615 2 жыл бұрын
How do you become a three pips admiral and not know that you need warp drive to reach another star system?
@rowlandbuck2703
@rowlandbuck2703 2 жыл бұрын
Probably just ASSumed..
@nuplanner5345
@nuplanner5345 2 жыл бұрын
Some people only see what they want to see.
@fivestar5897
@fivestar5897 2 жыл бұрын
when you were raised by your mama to be an enormous fool to one day give Picard something to play off of
@HighwaytoHoserville
@HighwaytoHoserville 2 жыл бұрын
He may not have known these bajorans had no warp capability. He sits in his office on earth. Being a bureaucrat.
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't know that Orta's ships didn't have warp capability due to lack of intelligence on his group. Orta isn't going to openly announce the weaknesses of his ships for all to hear just to provide some desk jockey like the Admiral here with accurate info to avoid possibly looking stupid one day.
@MasterofSpiders
@MasterofSpiders Жыл бұрын
Just realised Picard gave Kenneally an out and he didn't take it.
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 5 ай бұрын
If K is stupid enough to believe and trust the Cardassians, he's gonna be too stupid to see, or to accept, Picard's out.
@fivestar5897
@fivestar5897 2 жыл бұрын
Cliff Notes version: "Admiral, you are a giant tool. Picard.......OUT" {mic drop}
@develynseether4426
@develynseether4426 2 жыл бұрын
1. You'd think by now Admirals would know better than to go up against Picard. 2. So he got removed and replaced with Not-Care Nechayev. 😖 3. And this was the last time we saw Cardassians use pink torpedoes.
@JaredlS10
@JaredlS10 2 жыл бұрын
Hated Nedheyev but the actress played the role of Karen so well.
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Nechayev saw a wasted opening to destroy or at least hurt the Borg Collective and protect the Federation from harm hence why she yelled at Picard and was hard on him. She was a "look at the big picture to protect the Federation" type of officer and not a "remembering to be Human even if it handicaps you" type of officer. I wasn't fond of her either to be honest but I understand now why she behaved the way she does, to protect the Federation plus she's actually right sometimes.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 жыл бұрын
Nechayev was the only Star Fleet Admiral who came up against Picard and didn't leave tied up with a neat little bow. She deserves respect for that.
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 жыл бұрын
@@danieldickson8591 That's because she didn't do anything illegal and was careful as to what she attacked Picard on.
@thomaszinser8714
@thomaszinser8714 5 ай бұрын
@@girlgarde Yeah, say what you want about Nechayev, but she was a fairly competent and, surprisingly for a Starfleet admiral, possessed a good bit of integrity.
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc Жыл бұрын
You know that an admiral is bad when Picard calls them "sir"...
@Canyster
@Canyster Жыл бұрын
No wonder Kirk wanted to remain a captain!
@KenshiImmortalWolf
@KenshiImmortalWolf 5 ай бұрын
the amount of work admirals do leads them to slowly become blind to the galaxy. To quote mordin "to focused on big picture, big picture made up of little pictures, to many variables."
@OptimusWombat
@OptimusWombat 5 ай бұрын
I think it's that Kirk eventually became fed up and wanted to go back to being a captain. He was a young career-minded officer, fast tracked until he became the youngest starship captain in Starfleet. When he accepted promotion to flag rank after his Five Year Mission was completed, and especially with the Enterprise temporarily out of service for her refit, he probably accepted the promotion without giving it a second thought.
@FLAME4564
@FLAME4564 2 ай бұрын
Indeed Picard and Kirk have the smarts to remain in the starship game of Chess since theyre the true kings I mean common being captian of a starship is like being kings in a sci fi game of chess that even Kirk himself would know that all too well in the TOS era.
@jackcoleman5955
@jackcoleman5955 6 ай бұрын
“How many a$$holes do we have in this navy??” “Well, sir, how many Admirals are there in Starfleet?”
@trajan231
@trajan231 3 ай бұрын
"Yo!'
@nevadahamaker7149
@nevadahamaker7149 5 ай бұрын
4:19 The face of a man who has very quickly come to the full realization that his career is over, and he'll be lucky to stay out of prison.
@bustedsim
@bustedsim 5 ай бұрын
Huh... even though Picard was right here, it's also this moment that probably lead to the more involved peace treaty negotiations where Cardassia and the Federation had to give up various colonies, leading to the creation of the Demilitarized Zone, and the Maquis. This one moment sparked Wesley to ascend when he did, lead to the need for Sisko to take over DS9, the discovery of the Wormhole to the Gamma Quadrant and the Dominion, and therefore war, and lead to Voyager going to the Badlands and ending up in the Delta Quadrant. This is like, the second most important moment of this era.
@PeowPeowPeowLasers
@PeowPeowPeowLasers 2 ай бұрын
2:09 damn look how good the Enterprise looks in that shot.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Ro Laren reappears in a future DS9 centric reboot or sequel series. As seen in her TNG appearances, Ro is a survivor. I never believed she's perished alongside the rest of the Maquis when the Dominion War is over. In my head canon she's roaming somewhere in the galaxy until the right opportunity requires her to show up...
@lawnmowermanTX
@lawnmowermanTX 2 жыл бұрын
In my head she’s a Starfleet Captain on Lower Decks of a Nebula Class ship, and Worf’s secret lover..
@CtaEverett23
@CtaEverett23 Жыл бұрын
Well... you did get your wish
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir Жыл бұрын
@@CtaEverett23 Sadly not for long though
@romancernjak
@romancernjak Жыл бұрын
@@LGranthamsHeir in the alternate timeline. the ro we know and love is still out there somewhere, waiting to resolve her conflict with the real picard.
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir Жыл бұрын
@@romancernjak Right on! Based on what Terry Matalas said after "Picard" finale, we have not seen the last of Ro Laren yet. Of course, it also depends on Michelle Forbes.
@DaveXYZ369
@DaveXYZ369 9 ай бұрын
"Subspace Signal comming in from Starfleet Captain, Admiral Kennelly." "...On Screen...." "It is on a secured Channel Sir. In your ready room?" "...No. Here. On Screen" Oh Boy he is gone get it and everyone will see it :)
@someonesomewhere7587
@someonesomewhere7587 6 ай бұрын
Kitty Foreman watched this and started chanting "You're gonna get it!" at that part.
@moshiach2
@moshiach2 2 ай бұрын
Riker: He's ordered us to withdraw? Picard: Ah, I see you've read the script!
@Spacegoat92
@Spacegoat92 2 жыл бұрын
2:50 you can see the reflection of the boom on the lower right screen on Ro Larens console.
@shanedyer3230
@shanedyer3230 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idealism of the virtuous captain exposing the corrupt Star Fleet admiral, with expected consequences. On "Picard," Jean-Luc said it was no longer Star Fleet. A metaphor for so much of our society giving way to brutal greed. In my opinion. I wouldn't be a fan of Trek without those caveats on my own views.
@erzahler1930
@erzahler1930 9 ай бұрын
Those views seem rather familiar today, don't they?
@LGranthamsHeir
@LGranthamsHeir 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 - 2:30 How many of you wish either Gul Dukat or a certain Cardassian tailor had been in command of these Galor-class ships?
@jacksonheathen2092
@jacksonheathen2092 2 жыл бұрын
At this point in time (several years before DS9), I think Dukat would have been busy working Barjorian slave labors to death. But perhaps Garak was still a member of the Obsidian order and might have been aboard one of those Cardassian cruisers.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonheathen2092 No, the Obsidian Order wasn't allowed to have ships. He likely would've been on Cardassia Prime, interrogating some poor Cardassian to death.
@jacksonheathen2092
@jacksonheathen2092 2 жыл бұрын
@@3Rayfire Of course. The Obsidian order wasn't allowed to have military ships. But still, they likely had an "observer" from the order onboard (especially in missions along the border). But that's just my opinion.
@cwam1701e
@cwam1701e 5 ай бұрын
We just need to wait until George Lucas buys Star Trek and then he can do some special editions and edit them right in - no one could hate that, right?
@OptimusWombat
@OptimusWombat 5 ай бұрын
@@jacksonheathen2092 that makes sense. I feel like Cardassian ships would have "political officers" posted on them, like the way that the Soviet Navy did.
@jerradwilson
@jerradwilson 10 ай бұрын
I need to rewatch this series. I vaguely remember watching this as a little kid but didn't understand the plot.
@moboutmen
@moboutmen 2 жыл бұрын
Picard: Balls of TriLithium
@aggressiveattitudeera887
@aggressiveattitudeera887 2 жыл бұрын
More like duranium.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 2 жыл бұрын
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 Unless he's implying that Picards Balls cause Supernovas.
@moboutmen
@moboutmen Жыл бұрын
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 even better
@SamStuart07
@SamStuart07 2 жыл бұрын
Gee ST seems to make most of their admirals except maybe a select few quite corrupt.
@kadindarklord
@kadindarklord 5 ай бұрын
Interesting how quickly he hailed.
@Just_Call_Me_Tim
@Just_Call_Me_Tim Жыл бұрын
When I had the ‘Rona and couldn’t sleep these videos helped maintain my sanity as that b.s. was fought off. Don’t ever stop! Now, who’d like some beans?
@tjwparso
@tjwparso Жыл бұрын
glad i could help, hope you're well 🖖🏻
@erzahler1930
@erzahler1930 9 ай бұрын
I have two large ham hocs and a pound of dried lima beans. I'll rinse and soak the beans in cold tap water overnight, changing the water at least twice. Then I will put the ham hocs in my 6-quart crock pot, cover them with the beans along with some chopped potatoes and carrots, add some spices and seasonings, then cover the whole contents with a 50/50 mixture of water and vegetable broth until the water/broth is just below the rim, then add 5 or 6 bay leaves. For cooking, I set the crock pot to "Auto Shift." It will cook for 4 hours on high heat, then shift down to low heat so it can simmer for the rest of the day (“Low and Slow,” as we say down here in the Southland!). Check it once in a while, give it a stir, then add more water/broth if needed. With two hours to go, I will stir in some chopped celery. Then just before serving, I will make a BIG batch of cornbread. When all is ready, we will all sit down to a yummy supper of lima bean soup (flavored with ham hocs) and buttered corn bread, southern style! Beans and cornbread. Yum! 😋
@sztriki
@sztriki 5 ай бұрын
This clip just appeared on my feed right after I finished DS9 and while I liked that show a lot this is the perfect scene to exemplify the difference between DS9 and TNG and why I consider the latter something unique and DS9 just a good space opera series.
@szahmad2416
@szahmad2416 5 ай бұрын
It exemplifies why I can't take DS9 very seriously.
@klowen7778
@klowen7778 4 ай бұрын
Yep, and kinda more like 'soap opera' to be precise, although there'll always be folks who actually _prefer_ that sorta thing!
@jackmyers8687
@jackmyers8687 2 жыл бұрын
Long live Bajor
@FLAME4564
@FLAME4564 2 ай бұрын
Funny that Picard mentioned that outdated Bajoran ship was being remotely controlled from the ground? unless whoever is controlling that outdated old RC old bajoran ship must have aquired the skills to controll it
@CptRomulus
@CptRomulus 3 ай бұрын
This is what got me into TNG
@puntabachata
@puntabachata Жыл бұрын
The chimps were looking for a chump and they found him, Admiral.
@kalyana9705
@kalyana9705 5 ай бұрын
One of the reason why I'm beginning to like Orville even more than start trek - they depict a moderately competent top brass, while still having a good storyline
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 5 ай бұрын
And then Admiral Perry happened and it turned out that yes, the Planetary Union can have Starfleet Admirals too.
@OptimusWombat
@OptimusWombat 5 ай бұрын
@@hagamapama which one was Perry? Was that Ted Danson's character?
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 5 ай бұрын
@@OptimusWombat He's the one who tried to use the Krill and Moclans to wipe out the Kaylon. She gave Isaac and Charlie's design to the Krills so that it would be used and the Kaylon destroyed.
@OptimusWombat
@OptimusWombat 5 ай бұрын
@@hagamapama OK, thanks. It's slowly coming back to me now. My memory isn't what it used to be, lol.
@michaelgreenwood3413
@michaelgreenwood3413 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it's also The Orville, and will never be Star Trek on its best day. And that's due to its main character. Who literally photocopied TNG and DS9 Scripts and removed the parts he couldn't understand. I.E. everything actually intelligent and thought-provoking.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 2 жыл бұрын
At least this guy was just easier to fool and not straight up corrupt. Plus the Cardassians are deceitful, not just the Romulans. Not everyone can see through either races' lies.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 2 жыл бұрын
The admiral was also corrupt, because he was willing to abet the murder of civilians. A wanted terrorist leader is one thing, but collective punishment like that is quite shocking.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 5 ай бұрын
after all, I believe this is the time when the Obsidian Order was at its peak and this may well have been something put together by Tain and Garak before the latter was banished.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 5 ай бұрын
@@hagamapama I have to agree, that makes a lot of sense
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 5 ай бұрын
@@teleportedbreadfor3days For that matter we don't really know exactly whooooooooooo this "cardassian liason" really is. It might have even been Garak. Althoughh the operative was clumsy enough that I doubt it. Getting Kennelly sick with the virus wound up being a mistake and Garak was a bit too professional for that.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 5 ай бұрын
@@hagamapama lol
@CattoRayTube
@CattoRayTube 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately relevant in 2023/24.
@Brew78
@Brew78 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, there we go :)
@shiindaisuke3159
@shiindaisuke3159 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if dolts like him ever realize they all but confirm suspicions around them when they act like that before it's too late for themselves? Naivete, & ambitious are as dangerous a combo as alcohol, & gambling.
@Koulnis
@Koulnis 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like how this came across in this episode. Starfleet is built upon such a Utopian ideal, that a threat like terrorism is only seen through a lens of innocence and the absolution of peace. This was further emphasized through the Borg conflict, whose interest was singular and transparent. Out on the frontier, captains like Picard, and later on Sisko, provide Starfleet with the lens of complexity because races like the Cardassians will take advantage of that utopian naivete.
@John.S92
@John.S92 5 ай бұрын
Ensign Ro Laren, who here was but an ensign, later changed her name and was assigned to the colonial fleet, where she rose in prominence and rank to finally one day become Admiral, and the commanding officer of a ship of her own, though she had by then risen to the rank of Admiral, she was responsible for multiple ships, along with her flag ship, the (USS) Pegasus. BS-62. Admiral Helena Cain, CO of the Battlestar Pegasus. (Yes that was all just a joke, or "homage" to the actress who played both roles in respective franshieses)
@PaulCashman
@PaulCashman 5 ай бұрын
And she performed brilliantly in both roles. As flawed as Admiral Cain was, it took an actor of Forbes' ability to bring those flaws out seamlessly.
@ryanm7263
@ryanm7263 5 ай бұрын
That the admiral didnt know the Bajoran ships weren't even warp-capable is a gross dereliction of duty.
@Walrus1701D
@Walrus1701D 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the misguided, admiral criminal trope Star Trek loves so much! Even in the enlightened, Utopian 24th century, power corrupts! 😈
@argvminusone
@argvminusone 6 күн бұрын
And the Peter principle remains in full effect.
@develynseether4426
@develynseether4426 Жыл бұрын
As a kid I loved Starfleet and the Federation. As an adult I find Starfleet full of idiots and bureaucrats and the Federation an organisation with more wrinkles than a Zakdorn face.
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 6 ай бұрын
You can see why section 31 has it's place.
@develynseether4426
@develynseether4426 6 ай бұрын
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants I agree in principle there are needs for organisations who will do the dirty work others won't do in order to preserve our way of life but when those same orginisations undermine the integrity of that way of life it becomes much more complicated. Some would rather die than give up those beliefs, others would prefer 'freedom' even if it costs their soul. The problem is these organisations decide for the masses when not everyone would agree with them and who are they to decide what happens?
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 5 ай бұрын
@@develynseether4426 And yet, overall the Federation is a good place to live, and while there are certainly bad people in it, there's a lot of good people in it. And the vast majority still follows its founding ideals by 2500.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 5 ай бұрын
Section 31 won the Dominion War. I don't love them but they don't exist to be loved. They exist to do their duty and let the rest of us abide in the illusion that the universe is peaceful, because if it chooses not to be, Section 31 is there. @@develynseether4426
@tek512
@tek512 6 ай бұрын
Picard casually obliterating another admiral.
@nicholasemjohnson47
@nicholasemjohnson47 Ай бұрын
How could the Cardassians have not known the vessel was unmanned? Any decent scan would've told them there were no life signs.
@joshs4594
@joshs4594 2 ай бұрын
If only we had brilliant people like Picard in our government.
@taopilot2669
@taopilot2669 2 жыл бұрын
"Our mission has in fact BEAN to expose Orta."
@jacob7_7_7
@jacob7_7_7 7 ай бұрын
That was powerful
@peachesrambo4037
@peachesrambo4037 5 ай бұрын
The big picture only affects the little people.
@casey6556
@casey6556 6 ай бұрын
I aspire to one day achieve the sass level of Picard’s two “No sir!”s
@misterlau5246
@misterlau5246 Жыл бұрын
The goodness of the high command of starfleet😈
@2Scribble
@2Scribble Жыл бұрын
4:16 - I too identify as a Bah-Jah-Rahn xD
@MrPsychomonkey
@MrPsychomonkey Жыл бұрын
Everyone gets promoted to their level of incompetence
@williambagley5415
@williambagley5415 Жыл бұрын
Ensign Ro is fine 🌺
@stuartschiffman2581
@stuartschiffman2581 3 ай бұрын
Very few captains could speak like that to an admiral in front of witnesses.
@lesliechung79
@lesliechung79 5 ай бұрын
That look at the end where he knew the jig was up
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 3 ай бұрын
"If that's your call, I'll support it." so quickly turns into a direct order. 🧐 Unfortunately for the admiral, that's just what Picard wants (though judging by the look on his face as Kennelly ends the communication, he hates receiving this final proof that this is indeed the plot he suspects).
@elijahsdad
@elijahsdad 6 ай бұрын
Never, ever play chess against Captain Picard. You will ALWAYS lose.
@curiousgeorge5992
@curiousgeorge5992 2 жыл бұрын
And that folks is the problem with bureaucracies, incompetent manipulatable supportive of evil downtrodden good🙄
@WthIsThisRightHere
@WthIsThisRightHere 2 ай бұрын
Admiral, their beans are old and obsolete. They couldn't have eaten them, let alone love them!
@thebluestig2654
@thebluestig2654 Ай бұрын
He calls a Starfleet Admiral naive, in front of an audience. The inertial dampers were working overtime at that moment to compensate for his Jupiter sized clankers.
@ProperLogicalDebate
@ProperLogicalDebate 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that there aren't any such Generals and Admirals in our military. Are there, and how many are being pushed up the Chain of Command?
@Salty_Balls
@Salty_Balls 2 жыл бұрын
We know there are, all the way to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And it's nothing new. 30+ years or more of Pentagon corruption if you pay attention. Just look at what happened this year alone.
@XTRABIG
@XTRABIG 2 жыл бұрын
There are... At all levels. But there are also individuals like Capt. Picard who will act when the time arises.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 2 жыл бұрын
The Grayzone just had an article on a case of half the military being bought. Afghanistan was also one corruption business. The USA are a war-addicted business.
@Rhacman
@Rhacman Ай бұрын
Picard: In my century, we don't succumb to revenge. We have a more evolved sensibility... apart from those we place in the highest positions of trust and responsibility that is.
@residog1
@residog1 10 ай бұрын
I love beans too but there volcanic in nature hahaha
@stars9084
@stars9084 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who heard that last conversation with the Admiral and couldn't help but wonder if he had some personal connection to Solareon 4?
@girlgarde
@girlgarde 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he seemed to take the destruction of the colony on Solaron 4 quite personally. Perhaps he saw videos and pictures of the dead bodies of those slain by the attackers and eyewitness testimony about the attack. He may have even been reminded of something personal that happened to him in the past which triggered his temper here.
@romancernjak
@romancernjak Жыл бұрын
@@girlgarde that would be nutrek territory. starfleet officers in the original universe cannot afford to yield to personal feelings. they are mature, capable professionals.
@351cleavland
@351cleavland 4 ай бұрын
Federation Rehabilitation judge: Sir, you have 2 choices. one is go to prison for 10 years for embezzelment, corruption and blackmail. Two, apply for Starfleet command. Which shall it be?
@mckenziepictures
@mckenziepictures 5 ай бұрын
Patrick Stewart is an AWESOME actor, but, honestly, wouldn't it have been more believeable for an admiral to be the same age or older than Captain Picard? With this scene I am getting a vibe that either Capt. Picard was 'left back' from advancing in Starfleet or the Admiral is a super-genius who aced all of his tests and outmaneuvered every combatant in all quadrants of the galaxy.
@springerk2007
@springerk2007 5 ай бұрын
The vibe I get is the Admiral promoted his way through connections and not expertise.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 5 ай бұрын
He may not have advanced through fleet, starship, service, could've been a planet-bound or space station facility commander his entire life, then rose up to the admiralty level. Picard was a pure bred starship captain essentially his whole life, aside from some junior officer positions early on. Picard didn't want to trade all that in to sit at a desk. At least, not until much later in his life.
@boozypixels
@boozypixels 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Picard didn't try and resist becoming an Admiral. Seems like you either turn crazy or evil and there's no middle ground
@practicaltheory
@practicaltheory 5 ай бұрын
Sounds purty familiar.
@sachinz7118
@sachinz7118 2 жыл бұрын
Picard eats admirals for breakfast 😋
@nathanpont3831
@nathanpont3831 Ай бұрын
The primary problem of the Cardassian strategy was an obvious lack of Beans.
@jean-lucpicard5510
@jean-lucpicard5510 5 ай бұрын
Bajoran nose crinkle is different here than in DS9.
@Sentinello
@Sentinello 5 ай бұрын
Man that guy has a lots of beans on his collar
@akeel_1701
@akeel_1701 5 ай бұрын
Admiral's wants to say: The Cardassians have a right to defend themselves!"
@pauldockree9915
@pauldockree9915 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes A Great Notion
@moreforme74
@moreforme74 3 ай бұрын
This episode applies to what we see today. Star Trek always had the ability to place real world issues into their episodes.
@aemiliadelroba4022
@aemiliadelroba4022 5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@Otis151
@Otis151 6 ай бұрын
For a utopian society, the Federation sure does have a lot of incompetent admirals...
@jamesmarshall1520
@jamesmarshall1520 5 ай бұрын
Your right, it sometimes makes me wonder is being incompetent is 1 of the requirements for being A admiral in Starfleet that isn't 1 of the main characters
@tommcallister7647
@tommcallister7647 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the time Picard negotiated with the Klingon high command for a cloaked ship...
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII 5 ай бұрын
Starfleet would easily conquer the entire galaxy but to maintain balance in the known universe the position of *Admiral* was invented.
@longWriter
@longWriter 3 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to make a Star Trek fan-film where the admiral _isn't_ a villain/idiot.
@davidlewis5312
@davidlewis5312 2 жыл бұрын
Is no one going to point out that the outpost was probably hit by the Cardassians?
@DRKLCNS1
@DRKLCNS1 2 жыл бұрын
Picard did, in this very clip. or do you mean the one on the planet that they visited?
@ultramaximusreviews
@ultramaximusreviews 5 ай бұрын
Picard had some brass to throw salt into a superior officer's face LOL
@samsticka
@samsticka Жыл бұрын
Do you suppose Admiral Kennelly secretly works for Section 31?
@jiminut
@jiminut 5 ай бұрын
He didn't plan on Guinan.
@VideoHuman1
@VideoHuman1 3 ай бұрын
An important advice to Picard: Do investigate but do not invent.
@Yashirmare
@Yashirmare 5 ай бұрын
4:22 THX theme in the background?
@bartsanders1553
@bartsanders1553 2 ай бұрын
Itxs really stupid that the Federation didn't give Picard the rank of Admiral when commanding the flagship. That would have prevent this kind of meddling.
@chadsmith7075
@chadsmith7075 Жыл бұрын
That's weird, idk remember this one
@mattabraham3549
@mattabraham3549 5 ай бұрын
This is why the Bible says “Don’t grow weary in doing well”. Ppl get bored of doing the business they sign up for, and when an opportunity comes along to abuse their power in their little sphere of influence to engage in shenanigans that their betters have classified as “doing the right thing” they jump at it. Become puppets. And subsequently sell out the ppl in their charge. Don’t grow weary in doing well.
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 7 ай бұрын
Why did the incoming "call" go to Data? Isn't Worf usually in charge of opening and closing communication channels?
@Timberwolf69
@Timberwolf69 6 ай бұрын
As far as I can remember, this isn't the only time a call on a secure channel would end up on Data's console. There might be an in-universe explanation for it, but that eludes meright now.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 5 ай бұрын
My guess is that incoming calls go to both stations and whoever acknowledges it first will process the call request. In this case, it was a secure channel so likely had to punch in some security clearance codes just to look at it. Data would be much faster and "beat" Worf to it.
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII 5 ай бұрын
it was a secure communication and Worf is only trained to push buttons with his palm not do math science.
@pauldockree9915
@pauldockree9915 5 ай бұрын
Never Give an Inch - Sometime a Great Notion
@LarryDickman1
@LarryDickman1 Жыл бұрын
I love insubordination. Makes be smile when an Admiral with no skills in critical thinking gets his ass handed to him. Sort of like me when I was in the service. Except with my MOS, I could say, Sir don't confuse your rank with my authority.
@thiagodeandrade7081
@thiagodeandrade7081 5 ай бұрын
I suppose if one is "chair-bound paper-pusher", as Kirk described Commodore Stocker in TOS, the perception is not instinctive.
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 5 ай бұрын
Although to be fair, Stocker was by no means insane or even particularly means, and his actions were largely done in the hopes of saving lives.
@thiagodeandrade7081
@thiagodeandrade7081 5 ай бұрын
@@Ares99999 Sure, he has the distinction of being one of the few non-evil on-screen Starfleet higher-ups, but Kirk clearly didn't trust his judgment. Apparently, one can make a carreer at Starfleet without getting involved in the practical aspectos of space travel.
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 4 ай бұрын
@@thiagodeandrade7081 Someone needs to be there to make sur things run while the 'we are better than the rest of you' explorers go exploring. I don't see Kirk being really good at Stocker's job, to be fair.
@thiagodeandrade7081
@thiagodeandrade7081 4 ай бұрын
@@Ares99999 I agree. But a carreer "making sure things run" might explain the lack of certain perceptions the explorers introjected.
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 4 ай бұрын
@@thiagodeandrade7081 Absolutely true. But I also think that the 'maintenance and logistics' side of Starfleet personnel would point out that its because of such things that the explorers have ships to explore with. All I'm saying is that Stocker was a good man. His actions were foohardy but actually came from the right place. In fact, it was probably because he undertook these actions out of compassion rather than pride that Kirk seemed to not hold it against him in the end.
@steve--smith
@steve--smith 2 ай бұрын
BajAran..... hmmm... must be a peach embodiment.
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