I Wish To Be Candid With You Ensign

Star Trek · The Next Generation · s05e03 · Ensign Ro
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[@nnthayer]

Ro's sales pitch for Starfleet: "BETTER THAN PRISON"

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Both her and Michael Burnham :)

[@cohenworrior898]

I must try that on my next application. Perhaps I'll end up commanding a carrier?

[@rowlandbuck2703]

If you are brutally honest and somebody can’t handle it, that is THEIR problem, not yours. (Riker)

[@Shozb0t]

I wonder what percentage of Starfleet personnel are indentured servants.

[@HHh-qe2ch]

Tom Paris had the same approach

[@romarudarkeyes]

Got to love Data having no emotional hangups getting in the way of things. He treats Ro like another crew member so she can actually contribute

[@mckinleymac3452]

Hmmm nah, he saw her as another Tasha Yar. Just a potential sexual conquest to note in his black book, errr I meant circuitry. The guy is robotic horndog.

[@romulusnr]

Data is how I'd want to manage.

[@thefutureisnow7300]

He’s probably the only one that doesn’t care about her checkered past

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

Sometimes you gotta wonder if it’s the lack of emotions, or if it’s Data himself. But I’d hardly call that one instance of Data speaking to Ro… well, anything

[@daltysmilth]

@@teleportedbreadfor3days It’s probably a little of both. He may not have emotions, but his default seems to be to always treat people with kindness unless they give him reason to treat them otherwise.

[@randomrazr]

3:25 "well this ship is prepared to defend itself if necessary" - worf gives zero fucks about this whole situation

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

Worf speaking like he might not even notice if Bajoran weapons hit the shields

[@yaldabaoth2]

The only other being able to dismiss themselves from Picard's office must have been Q.

[@longWriter]

Makes me wonder how Ro and Q would've gotten along...

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@longWriter I'd love to see an episode where Ro and Vash would've become Q's companions. Should be....interesting.

[@3Rayfire]

Upon the contrary, as far as Picard's concerned Q is always dismissed.

[@Dowlphin]

She really underlines her statement that she knows the procedures of being Starfleet crew. 😏

[@literallyanangrymoose7717]

Frankly, it should've gotten her taken right to prison, where she was trying not to go. Dislike of the situation does not give permission to say whatever you damn well please to whomever you damn well please. P8card would've been well within his right to send her off his ship.

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

"I intend to demand the *highest* level of performance from her". Don't worry, Wil Riker. You're going to get it! 😉

[@LGranthamsHeir]

After all he's Will Riker - the horniest first officer in Starfleet - whose never met a woman, hologram, co-worker, amnesia-stricken crew member, or genderless androgyneous alien he didn't want to bone" (SPOILER: Ro's the 'amnesia-stricken' crew member)

[@Dowlphin]

That would have been a good title alternative. Definitely better than the phonetic innuendo with the missing comma.

[@ProtoFalcon07]

*COUGH* Conundrum *COUGH*

[@hotohori69]

@@LGranthamsHeir in 7 years, how did not end up with a love child? I thought it would've made for an interesting storyline if Ro had Riker's illegitimate son/daughter after the whole lost memories episode....Would've had something to bond with Worf over.

[@Parasmunt]

She probably ended up in one of Riker's special holodeck programs where that was true.

[@AzguardMike]

Ro "i refuse to assimilate with my name" Riker "i hate her already"

[@TheNitroG1]

It's also really dumb...because star fleet has no problem accommodating some absolutely ridiculous customs of alien species throughout the show. The idea that the bijorian people wouldn't properly introduce themselves via their own custom is beyond silly. If it's something forced on them by the kardassians then that would be something they would have abandoned immediately. Also it's kind of stupid in the context of how language works. So when I'm giving you an order I'm using your first name that could easily be confused with other people who have that same first name. Rather than the family name that would be unlikely to be replicated unless you are serving with family members. But when I'm talking to you on a personal level I'm using the family name that could easily cause my remarks to be confused with other members of your family that I also know...Think about what it would be like telling your girlfriend something when you have to use the same name used for her mother... It's this sort of out of place writing that makes me think, this isn't a story beat as much as it is a lecture in disguise.

[@MegaZeta]

@@TheNitroG1 Wrong. I've worked with more than one guy from a country where surnames come first who's just accepted the inversion of his name rather than correct people about it, and people who had guts enough to do so. This same inversion was also a common experience at Ellis Island. The show's example is drawn from real life.

[@Swindle1984]

@@TheNitroG1 Quite a few cultures, such as Japan, address people by their family name unless they're very familiar with one another. Many of these people assimilate into cultures that do it the other way around when they immigrate. It makes perfect sense that many Bajorans, who at this point were primarily refugees, would adopt a "when in Rome" attitude to make themselves relatable to the people they were trying to curry favor from, particularly when the Cardassians had been suppressing Bajoran culture and traditions for decades already and many of them didn't grow up with those traditions. The ones who did, like Ro, were the ones who obstinately stuck to their old ways mainly to spite the Cardassians and reclaim some of their identity. Notice Ro wears her earring on the left ear, not the right, indicating she isn't religious/doesn't believe in the Prophets but does wish to honor Bajoran tradition and culture.

[@abrahamedelstein4806]

@@MegaZeta Did he let people use his surname or did he invert the name order himself? Because it's generally not a big deal what name order is used as long as people have a clue which is the personal and which is the surname, of course it's easy for me to say because I live in a culture where names are flipped all the time depending on context and even close friends might refer to each other by their surnames.

[@PrincessOzaline]

@@abrahamedelstein4806 I have had a professor who gave specific instructions for us to use East Asian order of his name. So some people do care about it. I'm in East Asian studies and it's a bit a of a mix outside of language classes what the prof wants.

[@girlgarde]

I can see why Ro Laren was annoyed at how naive the senior staff was being in which Bajoran leader to meet. They needed to meet a leader who had influence and wasn't a blatant Federation puppet though she could've stood to be a bit more polite.

[@eternal_napalm6442]

That is why Picard valued her and respected her and gave her leniency at times. He knew she would cut through the shit and give real Intel.

[@DemoNinja79]

​@@eternal_napalm6442 doesnt excuse her insubordinate behaviour.

[@jaredfinley4986]

not at all. no male character could have gotten away with that@@DemoNinja79

[@scurvofpcp]

@@DemoNinja79 When people are determined to hate you you have two choices. You can do your best and let them find faults in your best, or you can give them some low hanging fruit to hate. With the latter option she gets to control the narrative and it lets them focus their hate on her attitude rather than her performance. And of the people in the room, I think Picard knew what she was doing and I think Warf understood it.

[@hobomike6935]

I never liked Ro. She did not deserve the uniform she wore. Kira’s character made more sense because she was a Bajoran militant officer, and had the right to be belligerent to Starfleet personnel. Unlike Worf, Ro did not respect that when you put on that uniform, you are expected to represent Starfleet command; not your personal interests.

[@willia451]

The character of Ensign Ro was a breath of fresh air to the entire Star Trek franchise. They should have found a way to keep it going much longer than was offered.

[@MrStonedOne]

I remember hearing tales that early ds9 concepts had her as second in command, not Kira, who was created after forbes turned down the role.

[@mdhofstee]

@@MrStonedOne Yep Forbes refused the role. Would have been interesting but as a Lt intially and then doubling down on her faith then when Sisko gets promoted she goes to lt Commander and then commander during the dominion war. Would have been a good story arc with her finally being elevated to capt of the station on the final episode.

[@AapoJoki]

@@mdhofstee I guess you could say she got it over with and then went her separate way.

[@Ares99999]

She was fun, but I never saw her character as particularly important.

[@foogod4237]

@@Ares99999 Yeah, that was the really unfortunate thing. There was actually a lot of potential in the character, but the writers apparently had no idea how to write stories for it, and by the time she came along, all of the important roles were already occupied by other people, so there was just no real reason for her to be there a lot of the time. As a result, they really just brought her character in every once in a while when they needed somebody to be "angry" for some reason, and it really trivialized what the character could have been if it were just written better and had some sort of purpose to it...

[@IIISentorIII]

It was on that meeting that Dr. Crusher and Ensign Ro became *very* best friends for life.

[@taopilot2669]

"Jazz" Holza? Riker is interested in meeting that guy.

[@TheSchaef47]

Just wait until he meets the guy's chief of staff, Trombone McGee

[@technofilejr3401]

I love that Picard and Ro got to really tell one another how they felt. He was the surrogate father she needed. She was the sulky daughter who challenged his complacency.

[@lilben4184]

She was the uppity feminist whom everyone lets disrespect them without consequence. That's a mere ensign addressing the ship's captain, for fuck's sake. Is this a military-grade exploration mission, or a group therapy session?

[@brianlevine249]

@@lilben4184 Haha I thought the same thing. And everyone bashing Riker. It's literally his job in the military to bring the hammer down on personnel issues.

[@user-bl1rr2il3z]

@@lilben4184 @brianlevine249 She gets her orders directly from the admiral and Picard and Riker believe they need her cooperation to complete the assignment. In addition she expects to stay on board only for a short time and then go back to prison. So she has a lot more power here or at least less to lose than a random ensign hoping for a career. Sure, they could bully her but that would only serve their egos, not the mission.

[@mingusmofaz5898]

​@@lilben4184Half the cast does that at some point you gigantic pussy.

[@mingusmofaz5898]

​@@lilben4184This whiny ass "waaaah waaaah feminists" ass dumbass seriously trying to act like gross insubordination isn't one of the most common Starfleet offenses that just summarily get forgiven afterwards lmfao.

[@ehstronghold]

It's ironic 30 years later Riker and Picard's positions towards Ro would be flipped. Riker being the understanding one and Picard wanting to shoot her with a phaser.

[@stevengalloway8052]

😳 Wow. Ensign Ro took her share of the beans and left without dismissal, just like that! 😆

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Michelle Forbes is known for playing strong bad-ass and no-nonsense female sci-fi characters. Her first few minutes playing Ro Laren does not disappoint 😉😉

[@stevengalloway8052]

@@LGranthamsHeir- Her last time doesn't, either... 😏

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@stevengalloway8052 I'm clinging to a small hope that as a Master spy, Ro managed to escape prior to her shuttle exploding. In a few weeks time we'd be informed that Forbes is gonna be the new lead of the upcoming "Section 31" series. One can only hope...

[@Ares99999]

@@LGranthamsHeirNah, she's dead.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

0:45 - 0:53 "It's an old custom. Most Bajoran these days accept the distortion of their names in order to assimilate. I do not!!' Another feature that puts Ro Laren in good company with Kira Nerys...

[@taopilot2669]

And pretty much every Bajoran we see on DS9.

[@nwahnerevar9398]

@@taopilot2669 She was probably referring to the larger Bajoran diaspora, it wouldn't make sense for Bajorans to "assimilate" while on their home planet unless they were collaborators with the Cardassians.

[@jfarrar19]

Because initially they were supposed to be the same character.

[@romulusnr]

Kira Nerys was supposed to *be* Ro Laren but Michelle Forbes said no

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@romulusnr That's my understanding as well.

[@colejohnson5026]

Ro was great. Almost every time someone came on the Enterprise, we had to hear about how they graduated top of their class in subatomicsuckmycock physics or whatever tf. Ro was one of the few times a complete jerk of a person that everyone hated came onto the ship. It was refreshing.

[@safebox36]

I know they're positioning Ro as a rulebreaker. But I kinda understand the thing around her name and Bajoran earring. Like of all the customs and accommodations made for other crew members, addressing someone by their correct title and allowing a religious artifact upon their person are very light asks.

[@theshlauf]

Yeah, after all they've been letting Worf wear his family bling and he started the series as only one rank above Ensign.

[@bookender]

If they wanted her to be really obnoxious she could insist on addressing everyone else that way.

[@TrackerNeil]

Riker is getting all self-righteous about Ro, but he's projecting all over the place. He's as guilty as she is, and perhaps more so. As you may recall, he helped cover up an illegal act involving an illicit cloaking device. So when he's fuming about how dishonorable Ro is, he's really upset about his own dishonor.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Michelle Forbes made an excellent first appearance as Ensign Ro Laren. Until today I consider one of the plot not taken in Trek verse was to continue her role in DS9, likely as the station's security chief.

[@josephhicks6445]

I forget the name but their is a book series which take place after the end of DS9. It reveals that after the destruction of the maquis Ro joined the Bajoran militia and became the chief of station security while Odo was in the Gamma Quadrant.

[@yadt]

Ro was going to be Kira, but turned down the role.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@yadt Yup, that's what I heard as well.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@josephhicks6445 Yup, I've read this post DS9 novel series. I wish someone had converted it into a Trek series or at least a 'short Trek' feature. I want to see Ro Laren back, even though the show-runners may have to recast her.

[@michaelbayer5094]

Ro Laren was a great character, and Forbes played her very well. For whatever reason, Forbes had no interest in any Star Trek series.

[@Martin_Hermann]

Was it ever revealed what orders she disobeyed, that led to the death of the away team?

[@arav13]

Yeah in season 8 epi 29

[@BigNoseDog]

Riker: There are officers who wait years to serve on this ship! Me: If only they were the son of the woman the captain wants to sleep with. Then they’d be fast tracked to a position on the bridge.

[@calanon534]

More like "quite possibly the Captain's bastard son, of the woman he fucked behind her husband's back, whom he was partially responsible for letting die, later." A semi-recent Mirror Universe comic made this pretty clear (and the Mirror Universe often shows what happened in the "prime" universe, but with more visceral-ness), though in the Mirror Universe, he intentionally murdered Crusher's husband to have her all to himself.

[@vanir23]

Lol brutal

[@andrewdevita629]

Ohhhh let's be fair. A superadvanced space manipulator told Picard Wesley is one of the most brilliant human minds to ever exist. That surely earned him a few points.

[@martinm.1967]

a pedophile@@andrewdevita629

[@ArmyJames]

15 year old kid, routinely flying the flagship of the Federation.

[@NickCBax]

Gotta love that the nose ridges are so high up.. they’ll migrate down Ro’s nose over the course of TNG, and the bit at the eyebrow line will go as well.

[@SonnyBubba]

The original plan for Deep Space Nine was to have Major Ro be the Maqui resistance leader. When the actress wasn’t available, they rewrote the script to give the part to Major Kira.

[@richtea615]

It's great that in a later episode it's revealed that Riker and Ro have a strong attraction to one another.

[@nb2008nc]

The line between animosity and attraction often flips. Just redirect the energy and presto.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Within a year Riker is pulling his famous maneuver on her while she was still having memory issues....

[@calanon534]

Hatesex is wild. Even more intoxicating is the slow bubble of displeasure mixed with animalistic attraction. Hating each other, all the while wanting to shred each other's clothes. Ah, high school...

[@roberthorne9017]

@@LGranthamsHeir He was having the same memory issues. So was the entire crew. Nice cherry-picking there to make him look like a predator, slimeball.

[@kerryedavis]

@@roberthorne9017 Yes, as I recall she was the aggressor in that situation. And then later, in all-too-typical female fashion, both Ro and Troi blamed HIM for it.

[@cernstormrunner7263]

I wish they had made her a permanent cast member.

[@ldkellandshaw]

Michelle Forbes doesn’t do permanent. Ever. She only ever plays guest characters, just like on Battlestar Galactica.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Yup. Ro Laren should've been the DS9 security chief but Michelle Forbes turned down the role....

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@ldkellandshaw Yet all her characters always kick some a$$ in the episodes they were on (both in TNG and BSG)

[@TheZetaKai]

It wasn't through lack of trying. The producers had the roles of Kira Nerys and Belanna Torres written with Ro Laren in mind, but Forbes had other ideas.

[@ldkellandshaw]

@@LGranthamsHeir Indeed. She's a fantastic actress, she just doesn't like to make long term commitments.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

I'd love to see Ro Laren reappears in a future DS9 centric reboot or sequel series. As seen in her TNG appearances, Ro is a survivor. I never believed she's perished alongside the rest of the Maquis when the Dominion War is over. In my head canon she's roaming somewhere in the galaxy until the right opportunity requires her to show up...

[@oddish4352]

I liked the non-canon story of how she eventually made it to Bajor and joined the Bajoran militia. When Bajor joined the Federation, the militia was folded into Starfleet, allowing Ro to return to Federation service for a third time.

[@calanon534]

*Pfft* She sprung Tom Riker out of prison, stole a Runabout, and made for the Typhon Cluster, along the way scamming and bullying a Ferengi "trader" into giving them some nondescript Ferengi shuttle with some enhancements.. I bet'cha they're smuggling beans, now.

[@oddish4352]

@@calanon534 Nah, with their talents, they'd have made a fortune by now smuggling Romulan ale, and bought a small moon somewhere. Now, they're banging like minks, raising rugrats, and living happily ever after.

[@RatchildUK]

Well I got some news for ya

[@-Terzetto]

@@RatchildUK 😂😂

[@Giraffinator]

Ryker's smile after she mentioned dancing lmao

[@MightySheep]

this was the episode where he got the "good lord didnt any body here" sound clip from

[@mjjoe76]

I thought it was from a S2 episode where Picard was surprised nobody made ships in bottles as kids.

[@marsgal42]

This episode showed the kinds of things the newer shows just don't do. Ro hated everybody and everybody hated her. With time they grew to respect her, as she grew to respect them. Character development. What a concept. We knew something horrendous had happened in her past but they never said just what it was. Nothing wrong with a little mystery...

[@rockhaze]

She got molested by Tomalak inside the bathroom of a Romulan Warbird.

[@MB-sq7yn]

What? Multiple of the ongoing shows had characters having friction with one another and developing better relationships overtime.

[@Mark73]

Newer shows just don't have enough episodes to give everyone enough character development.

[@jsnrvst]

Discovery started with the main character doing mutiny, and then having to start her way up again on a new ship where everybody distrusted her, and gain their trust again. Saru went from fearful, by the book science officer / XO to confident empathetic captain. Tilly also grew in confidence. Hugh died, and came back, and had to navigate that as well. Georgiou went from evil empress of the mirror universe to embracing at least SOME of the values of the Federation, to the point that when she had an opportunity to go back, she found that she couldn't live there anymore, she changed too much. People can and will criticize the new shows, fine, but this particular critique is nonsensical. Discovery has had more character development than TOS and TNG combined.

[@solarsoils7368]

Literally, after Burnham finds Starfleet HQ in the 31st century, NO ONE at Starfleet trusts her and she HATES how starfleet is pussyfooting about doing the right thing. They both have to deal with each other's BS since Burnham is the only one with a starship that can go anywhere, anytime, without using dilithium and Starfleet is the only humanitarian organizationleft with a heart. With time they grew to respect her, as she grew to respect them. Character development. What a concept. We knew something horrendous had happened in her past but this time EVERYONE knows it.

[@WarpRulez]

What an amicable and warm, welcoming conversation.

[@seanstoyroom7274]

Had the same kind with a former boss of mine. No one liked her and she was kicked out of the unit for writing false negative evaluations of us. And no one said goodbye to her.

[@rowlandbuck2703]

I dunno Ro. Star fleet prisons probably have cool video games.

[@dzerofox1586]

ive always wondered, which is bigger; the saucer section or the chip on Ro's shoulder

[@michealtaylor1946]

It has been my experience that people with bad attitudes have them is the result of other people's treatment of them. Noone has a naturally occurring "bad attitude". I was married to one such person for 8 years. She had severe cystic cancer caused by a type of cancer no one knew about. She passed at 59. RIP Rusty.

[@lilben4184]

🙄 "Unprovoked evil does not exist" This is your brain on secular humanist materialism. Any questions?

[@THEFlea1991]

She had a bad attitude and a chip on her shoulder. SHE is responsible for HER actions. No one else. And no one deserves her Bajoran “big-mad/little-brain” treatment, either. Especially the crew of this starship.

[@TheZetaKai]

I'm sure that there are some non-canon materials that cover what happened on Garon II, but we never got an official explanation for Ro's court martial and imprisonment. She must've done something very wrong to get this response from the crew.

[@Pygar2]

You know the little pillow tags that say "Not to be removed except by consumer"? She threw hers away without eating them! The *fiend*!

[@TheZetaKai]

@@Pygar2 My god, that crazy bitch.

[@55Quirll]

Perhaps it was advice she to the captain or head of the landing party that was dismissed which later got some of the landing party killed. A scapegoat was needed and she was the only Bajorian on board and she was selected.

[@JD-xh4yf]

@@Pygar2 Nice swerve at the end there.

[@calanon534]

Even Memory Beta has nothing. So, no licensed Star Trek work has ever covered the details of the incident. All we "know" is that she probably got most of the Away Team (8 people) killed when she disobeyed an order. Also that Leonard James Akkar presided over her Court Martial.

[@danielanderson8322]

Between this & her return to Picard, the positions between the three are switched: Ro is the guilty party at the judgment of Will and Picard (with Picard having to tone down Riker) and in Picard she is representing Starfleet and holding Picard and Riker liable for their actions with Riker having to check Picard a little

[@davidfulton179]

Everyone had a thing for 7 of 9, T'Pol, and Dax, but MY crush was and has always been on Ensign Ro!

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Michelle Forbes is known for playing strong, bad-ass and no-nonsense female sci-fi characters. Her first minutes playing Ro Laren does not disappoint 😉

[@williamkelly9628]

It’s a shame she didn’t take the offer to play Ro on DS9

[@LGranthamsHeir]

@@williamkelly9628 If I recalled it was because she did not want to be typecasted as an actress who can only do the sci-fi genre. How ironic that her two most favourable roles were as Ro Laren (in TNG and STP) and as Admiral Helena Cain (in the reimagined BSG series).

[@maxdamagus]

Yeah she has playing a spoiled 13 year old girl nailed.

[@GrumpyBearRawr]

She also plays hardcore power b**** roles really well like in Chicago Fire and New Amsterdam. She plays a totally different role in the series The Killing. I've never been disappointed in any role I've seen her in.

[@Hyper-M]

All she did was hand someone a bag!

[@teddybetts3254]

Sometimes, even I thought that the Federation and Starfleet needed a smack in the face for their own good. Q did it with their introduction to The Borg and Ro does it here.

[@THEFlea1991]

Yay! She got one good moment on TV. The rest of her character is TRASH. And Kira was the worst part of DS9. Constantly whining, moaning, complaining in the typical Bajoran “big mad, little brain” fashion. Bajorans have to be the most pathetic species in this series.

[@slyguythreeonetwonine3172]

I think what makes this story arch special is it's a story about people trying. And even back then when this was on the air I think we realized we live in a world where people no longer try. *Sigh*

[@jamessatter7418]

Good continuity from Beverly "the dancing doctor" Crusher

[@reghunt2487]

Such a great character. I only recently realized Forbes played a different character in an earlier episode.

[@DanielWright-np3fq]

I really relate to Ro; she is pragmatic and practical and does not buy into the "Happy Starfleet" line.

[@THEFlea1991]

Interesting…. Considering the rest of the crew are FAR happier and well-adjusted than she ever was 🤔

[@DanielWright-np3fq]

@@THEFlea1991 Or so they seem...(conspiracy music from X Files plays)

[@jesse_cole]

"The family name first, the individual's name second." TNG just called out every Westerner who thought every Korean's person's first name was "Kim."

[@eternal_napalm6442]

I'm sure all the North Koreans are loving collectivism over individualism 😆

[@almightyk11]

Ro: Has an abrasive personality, given a choice of prison or serving in Starfleet Bashir's Parent's: Broke a law created to avoid another Eugenics war, given 2 years in prison which was considered an extremely harsh sentence

[@knessing7681]

Ro was suppose to fill the role of Major Kira on DS9 but that didn't worked out. Since they've invented the Kira character, Ro was also suppose to show up on DS9 in a couple of Maquis centric story arcs but that didn't panned out either, instead we had Edington and Tomas Riker as the Maquis bad guys.

[@theshlauf]

So Ro was going to be spending an epsiode comparing Sisko to Javert?

[@eternal_napalm6442]

Eddington was damn good.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

'Star Trek TNG: Ensign Ro' or 'The one where Michelle Forbes kicks a$$ in her Trek debut."

[@nuplanner5345]

Perhaps Ensign Ro lacks the charm that would motivate a request for a dance.

[@TheSchaef47]

Death is an experience best shared. Like the tea.

[@vanir23]

That sass at the end!

[@Gzeebo]

I remember thinking it was odd that Picard didn't know about the Bajoran name tradition. Surely he had read Ro's file, and files on the sensitive mission concerning the Bajorans. Add to that, many cultures of Earth use the same convention, so you'd assume it wouldn't be seen as something unique to Bajor, and apparently they teach Bajoran history to children. I know it was just meant as [insert alien culture trope]. I just thought it was odd.

[@TheSchaef47]

You need a reason to say it to the audience.

[@vola-2899]

1:30 Damn, what an understatement. Federation must have millions of officers, and Enterprise has less than 1000 personnel on board

[@romulusnr]

"and he won't ask you to dance" Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn *snap snap snap*

[@jerryhenson3916]

God, I loved her. Teenage me was head over heels.

[@Dowlphin]

Wow, captain Jean-Luc and commander William know her so well, have a good basis for diskiling her, have read her file. 😏 And wow again, she dropped the word "assimilate" in front of Picard. That's really vicious. 1:55 Those looks are excellent. 😄 Also, my mind: _Dismissed. ... You are hereby dismissed. I officially dismiss you, while Commander Riker bears witness to the act. I intently cast my irrevocable dismissal upon you, that you shall leave this space where excellence holds council._ And it is of course also funny that she said she knows the procedures but then enters and leaves without requesting permission. So he very much does have to worry about her. 2:34 Witness the Starfleet uniform code in action. 😜 (Although, to be fair, Dr. Crusher probably has a medical condition where she feels cold all the time. ... And Worf... Well, he needs that aluminum cooler to keep his torpedoes in the bay and his comm badge from popping off.)

[@retluoc]

But Riker and I are gonna bang our brains out when we lose our memories 😄

[@LGranthamsHeir]

That's the origin of 'amnesiac stricken crew member' part in the "Will Riker: Horniest First Officer in Starfleet" line in the 'TNG: Honest Trailers' video.

[@blackromulan]

That shit would never fly on a Romulan ship, I'll tell you that much.

[@taumpytears6999]

Not gonna ask me to dance? Well.... its ok , my shoes are too tight anyway

[@TentaclePentacle]

You have forgotten how to dance

[@hrgirl26]

The one thing about Star Trek: Picard that I loved was resolving the Ro Laren story arch. She was a true hero, and an honorary daughter to Picard. I loved her ending and I felt it was better than assuming she got massacred with the other Maquis.

[@Ares99999]

The ONE thing? And yet you watched all three seasons.

[@phil-2725]

She is mind-bogglingly beautiful

[@NLaertes]

Okay who is watching this after Picard S3?

[@nesshane71]

such a great episode!

[@krakhedd]

Wow - I somehow completely forgot this is how Ro's TNG career started ("it's only been 30 years" - and I should re-watch the series cuz it's so easy to) - the writers expertly bonded them all very quickly

[@jaywilson4520]

I like how Ro immediately took Picard and Riker's barely-contained hostility (especially Riker) and threw it back in their faces.

[@kerryedavis]

Considering how much Picard had apparently studied the Bajorans before, it doesn't make sense that he wouldn't know about their names.

[@Teletheus]

I think Picard mentioned reading about ancient Bajoran civilizations in his fifth-grade reader. But if you think about what you might’ve learned about other civilizations at that age, it would probably be the biggest of “big picture” stuff. Maybe something similar to an American kid excited to learn about the existence of the Great Wall of China-like, say, knowing something vague about ancient Bajorans using lightships for some of the earliest interstellar voyages on record. It’s neat, and it might even pique a particularly curious kid’s interest in learning more. But it’s not anywhere near the level of detail for recognizing different name customs. But *after* this episode, Picard takes more interest in Bajorans and seems to make a concerted effort to learn things he didn’t know. Knowing him, I’m sure it was half out of respect and diplomatic interest-wanting to make sure he didn’t insult Bajorans by missing similar things in future dealings-and half out of Picard simply never wanting to remain ignorant about something once he knows he doesn’t know it yet!

[@kerryedavis]

@@Teletheus the lightships were impossible too, of course.

[@Teletheus]

@@kerryedavis You’re absolutely right! I didn’t even think about that, but at that point in time, I’m sure most of the Federation were “certain” those stories were apocryphal.

[@kerryedavis]

@@Teletheus And yet they went ahead and had Sisko do it anyway. Ridiculous.

[@AzaelVI]

That Admiral Cain to you.....Captain.

[@Carnutzjoe]

I love Ro!

[@JohnMinehan-lx9ts]

I had a colleague who used to say, "When you say 'Let me be honest with you,' you are notably honest all the time. What you really mean is 'I think you are way off and it could be costly.'" Good assessment.

[@stratfordbaby]

The old Bajoran nose ridges were very very pronounced compared to what they ended up with on DS9 and later.

[@MagicAl5F4781]

Apparently this bigger appliance kept coming unglued. With so much more Bajoran screentime on DS9 they had to make it lower-maintenance. Ro appeared with the redesigned nose for her final TNG appearance, after she hadn't been seen for 18 months.

[@bookender]

The opposite of what happened to Klingons.

[@Kontorotsui]

This sounds so hard to believe. An Ensign being so rude and to the Captain and the XO would be immediately relieved from his duties for insubordination, sent home packing with a scathing report and would lose her commission at once, and possibly, it seems, sent straight to prison.

[@lasergod]

Yeah, that’s my problem with this scene. There’s no way Picard would have tolerated that behavior and in no way would the captain be “stuck” having to deal with an ensign.

[@Wraithfighter]

Except that, as she puts it, she doesn't want to be there either, and views the assignment as only a bit better than prison. And Picard and Riker don't want her around either. Her being rude is a problem, but its like Problem 15 in their books, their need for a local guide is that important. You basically need to look at her not as an Ensign but a strong-armed informant.

[@AutumnCorvidae]

Picard is also likely keenly aware not only of the Admiral's direct interest in this mission going smoothly as well as the larger implications for Starfleet and the Federation if it does not. So, he is likely erring on the side of caution here because of the vital nature of the mission, the political problem of not wanting to deal with the Admiral if he makes it impossible for them to work together, and the realization that this is, after all, temporary, and he has nothing to prove to anyone by trying to crack down on someone who is already a pariah.

[@Kontorotsui]

@@AutumnCorvidae So he and Riker are basically putting up with this piece of crap officer because they are ordered to?

[@AutumnCorvidae]

@@Kontorotsui Remember Picard's line: "It won't be for long, Will." Picard is clearly showing he doesn't like this any more than Riker but.... yes, they've been ordered to bring her on this mission.

[@WinterSoldier79]

There were times on this show when Riker was so unprofessional I'm surprised Picard tolerated it. Picard was the only adult in that room.

[@mjjoe76]

I think it was his role as first officer to be like that. Put him in the captain’s chair and he probably would be different.

[@davidjones1619]

Ensign Ro had some swagger about her...👏🏽

[@geoffwilliams4478]

Riker: There are officers who wait YEARS to serve aboard this ship! Me: Will, cool your heels. The woman was talking.

[@ValseInstrumentalist]

If he were in the Star Wars universe, Jazz Holso would be named Jizz Holdo.

[@donaldbadowski290]

Talk about body language. Walk into your commanding officer's office with your arms folded across your chest, head tilted, little smirk on your face. Same thing during the meeting.

[@Diablo_Himself]

1:59 Riker's face! He is LIVID!

[@r.roberts]

Ro needed to get rid of the gigantic chip on her shoulder while on the Enterprise. Picard graciously tried to treat her with respect, and she kept throwing his efforts back in his face. Riker had the right idea: Dismissed Ro.

[@Sage2000]

This last scene is fantastic. It’s more or less how USA portrays it’s relationships with cultures they don’t understand. I am glad for the way Ro, once asked for an opinion, actually starts to speak. She was right, bloodshed was coming.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

If Ensign Kim was in the same room with Ro, he should've offered to resign as well since Starfleet's name designation policy discriminated against people from his own culture as well.

[@Sage2000]

@@LGranthamsHeir I don’t quite remember this one

[@theshlauf]

​@@LGranthamsHeir lol, "his own culture". Harry, son of John and Marry was born in South Carolina, USA.

[@misterlau5246]

Wonderful. I got clean of the Beans and.. I relapsed 😬 Would be a nice idea to binge these videos? Again Oh. Well it's just a question of having to do unimportant stuff like earning money thru honest work 🤬😅😅🖖🤓

[@xBloodXGusherx]

Love at first sight with this woman.

[@iamsam8446]

I like how ST:P brought back many smaller characters from the past, such as Ro Laren.

[@JoshDRivia4]

She'd have made a great Ripley in a pre-quel.

[@nostromo7928]

I wouldn't have thought of that but yes, she would have, especially after seeing her performance on BSG "Razor."

[@slavaukraini1991]

Can see early DS9 Kira all over her 🔥

[@LGranthamsHeir]

All of Kira's early traits - her childhood growing up in Bajoran concentration camp, war-time experience with the Bajoran militia, knowledge of Bajoran - Cardassian politics, are all inside Ro Laren's persona too. Hence I often wonder how DS9 would've been different had Michelle Forbes agreed to star in it instead of turning down the role

[@cubdukat]

Well, they had a chance to build up the Bajorans with her role, just like they did (ironically enough), with Marc Alaimo and the Cardassians.

[@kodiekulp]

If you know Bajorans, her name and saying with her chest is like "AND F THEM CARDASHINANS " Love me some DS9 too

[@CLxJames]

“I wish to be Candid with you” “If you are Candid, can I still be Ro?”

[@joshuaweston6531]

I forgot how much Ro had a chip on her shoulder

[@rdkap42]

Admiral Cain had a chip on her shoulder her entire career

[@Mr.Derogatory316]

We all cameback here after watching the 5th episode of Season 3 of Star Trek Picard

[@dorondavid4698]

Ensign roe... The angry teenager that never grew up

[@paulgibbons2320]

One to one. Person to person as it should be. Nothing clandestine. No MK ultra monkey business. A thing of the past.

[@mathewdeering]

I love MIchelle Forbes and what she brought to the character. I'm annoyed she decided against going into DS9, she would have been great.

[@THEFlea1991]

She was easily replaceable. We got Kira instead. A carbon copy. It’s an easy role, really. Just be big-mad with a little brain and you portray the average Bajoran

[@davecrupel2817]

"From this meeting onward Ensign, you will conduct yourself the way all your peers conduct themselves. And work with them in a far more acceptable manner. Or you will find yourself in the brig untill we reach the next starbase. Is that clear, ensign *Lara?"*

[@robyeone7976]

+tjwparso Keep ‘em coming with Ensign Ro👍🏿

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Any TNG episodes with Michelle Forbes in it is bound to be great!!

[@exeterjedi6730]

Michelle Forbes

[@caseyhayes4590]

Riker sitting sideways...

[@George_M_]

Its only because Nana Visitor was so good as Kira that I can stand Forbes turning down Ro being the Bajoran on DS9.

[@Hyper-M]

They should have sent ensign Ro to hand the leader a big salad

[@curiousgeorge5992]

A few of these people portrayed portrayed as real individuals satisfying real-world in fictional format oh, definitely not a politician

[@joshuajoshua2732]

She wasn't dismissed.

[@delavalmilker]

I noticed that Ensign Ro refers to "Bajora" as the plural for her people. I always thought it was "Bajorans".

[@stevechance150]

You know Riker wants to tap that

[@mitchellsmith4601]

Data should have said, “Ensign, to whom do you suggest we speak?” rather than ending his sentence in “to”.