For him to come into chat and say he wasn't cheating was the crazest part of that set 🤣🤣🤣
@ricardohumildebrabo12 күн бұрын
Some cheaters are just like this, in extreme denial. They think what they are doing "ain't cheating" and will justify with an encyclopedia of excuses. It's pretty crazy.
@johnmaco12 күн бұрын
They don't want to get reported
@jkdman200712 күн бұрын
Cheaters gonna lie for sure.
@Delpnaz12 күн бұрын
The first thing a cheater learns is to lie to himself.
@jkdman200712 күн бұрын
Cheating itself is a lie too.
@JohnSmith-yn9ju12 күн бұрын
Getting perfect electrics, not knowing any combos, doesn’t punish anything, trash movement and parry all lows. All these cheaters are the same smh.
@Geheimnis-c2e12 күн бұрын
They aren't even perfect electics.
@lel72012 күн бұрын
@@Geheimnis-c2eunless you are taking about the 13f, they are perfect, look at the inputs, 1 frame forward, 1 frame neutral, 1 frame down, same frame df2, there are only a few exceptions probably due to the script not running at the same frame rate of the game making it send additional inputs
@GhaliumHD11 күн бұрын
its not that they didn't know any combos, it was basically bm'ing.
@GhaliumHD11 күн бұрын
@@lel720 thats not a perfect electric lol.
@lel72011 күн бұрын
@@GhaliumHD read my comment again, i acknowledged that its not a 13f. the point is, they are perfect inputs regardless
@Babunki212 күн бұрын
Bro paid for microtransactions and is cheating??? 😂😂
@turquoise366312 күн бұрын
Pro participating in King of Iron Wallet Tournament😭
@lilbeastnb769812 күн бұрын
Forget the micro transactions. He paid 70$ not to play the game.
@Squary9412 күн бұрын
Just putting it out there that there are ways around having to pay for them since tekken 7 which is close to a decade now.
@Psygnificant12 күн бұрын
You can unlock everything with cheats
@Babunki212 күн бұрын
@@Squary94 that makes a lot more sense I had no idea lol no wonder they charging for stages 😂
@jmballes9912 күн бұрын
I ran into this guy a few weeks ago too, I reported. Idk how he hasn’t been banned yet.
@mikekingtaberna891712 күн бұрын
He's on tekken teams spreadsheet
@hands-ongaming718011 күн бұрын
Because tekken shop
@gabrielbeltrami14328 күн бұрын
prob setting up a ban wave at best.
@Monkey_Tree12 күн бұрын
An easy tell is that his electric input is exactly the same every time. Its also the 14 frame version every time.
@chevy842712 күн бұрын
Exactly. 1f for each input every time. Played someone like this on xbox the other day somehow
@Hachijo3GS12 күн бұрын
@@chevy8427you can’t cheat on Xbox
@jkdman200712 күн бұрын
He is a GOD rank, but he drops almost every combo and he has no movement.
@arthurdaffos149012 күн бұрын
@@jkdman2007 cheaters have always godlike inputs and timing for launchers but they never seem to correctly back dash or do optimal combos
@jkdman200712 күн бұрын
@@arthurdaffos1490 They can one button backdash or wavedash too, but this player obviously is a new cheater.
@flare720212 күн бұрын
Without the cheats this dude would be in green ranks by how he's playing.
@Acrophyllia12 күн бұрын
not even green rank lmao
@mikearsen458012 күн бұрын
Green ranks know combos
@tockutocku12 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Nathan-zd8ew12 күн бұрын
He would be in wood ranks bro. He was so bad.
@MrSnake199412 күн бұрын
bro, green know basic combo, sidestep, etc. This guy know literally nothing. I mean he cant even wavu wavu.
@frbrosch12 күн бұрын
The consistent 14 frame electrics instead of 13 had me dying
@rykehuss343512 күн бұрын
Heihachi cant do 13 frame electric
@kyllicks12 күн бұрын
@@rykehuss3435He can in this game.
@lxstfeelxngz985312 күн бұрын
@@rykehuss3435yes he can do you even play the game
@jkdman200712 күн бұрын
He can't do any combo as a GOD had me dying. He is a trash cheater and he can't even cheat well.
@sirdab9311 күн бұрын
@@rykehuss3435that’s a fat L right there
@OverlordDurash12 күн бұрын
12:04 "I'm 43, I've been playing longer than all of you." Might be true, theres an epidemic of middle-aged people cheating in videogames. Every other person I've encountered and admitted to cheating was way older. I've had a few older guys in extract shooters tell me they justified it by "evening the playing field" by using a soft aimbot and some ESP. Just loser shit TBH, if you're gonna disrespect the sportsmanship of other players, just play singleplayer games.
@HellonearthlABB8 күн бұрын
Funny cause everyone I've encountered was pretty young
@gstylerickyКүн бұрын
Today ran into a looser or two. Yoshimitsu killed himself every round. The other guy was not playing for 2 rounds and had block assistance he killed the vibe
@IAMOP12 күн бұрын
17:30 just look at the sequence of inputs lol
@Greenleaf_4 күн бұрын
>Gets teabagged at 1 health left for 10 seconds straight >Goes to chat "Haha GG's man" Yeah bro nothing weird there.
@Jacev_12 күн бұрын
I faced a cheater a few weeks back. He pretty much had no answer for when I started spamming Hwoarang's 3~4 against him. Like Anakin said, "I HAVE MIDS"
@nathan781412 күн бұрын
You know a master of the game when instead of moaning about a cheater they just start trying to figure out how to beat it, so cool.
@SHELBYGT64512 күн бұрын
watching inputs from replays gotta be the funniest shit ever
@rasifurefodi830612 күн бұрын
They really be letting cheaters get to GoD these days huh
@SupremeKuzushi12 күн бұрын
Unfortunately old news.
@spelllegacylikedeath995712 күн бұрын
@@SupremeKuzushiratio
@SupremeKuzushi12 күн бұрын
@@spelllegacylikedeath9957 Pardon?
@Geheimnis-c2e12 күн бұрын
People scum their save files to get TGO in Tekken 7. This isn't news.
@OverlordDurash12 күн бұрын
You could save scum or just straightup cheat in T7 too. There was also no real anticheat there too.
@BigDaddyWes12 күн бұрын
The 4 frame electrics every time is hilarious.
@johnnypericles135312 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the old Tekken arcade AI that would duck your highs for the exact amount of frames the high was on screen.
@Zachebi6 күн бұрын
Tkn 2 arcade kazuya was impossible, then the console version just spammed lazers
@SzyszuPL12 күн бұрын
at 7:54 when you are doing a get up low, you can see him trying to low parry for like one frame
@eggE6612 күн бұрын
5:17 too
@2wcp12 күн бұрын
Nice catch. I didn't even notice it 😂
@ADukesJustice4 күн бұрын
Shit was so quick, looked like he was glitching out lol
@Hype_Incarnate12 күн бұрын
bro the bot was mashing the fucking out of inputs that is crazy.
@rykehuss343512 күн бұрын
Just casually doing like 10 just frame inputs in a row
@djirukashi399210 күн бұрын
Dude is clearly a data bug and needs to be data drained asap before they infect the whole server.
@Plus_Frames11 күн бұрын
He even had a script to only rematch if you rematch 😭
@mrwu213512 күн бұрын
you know how scary you gotta be to have inputs at that speed? homeboy types faster than starcraft players lol. after parry or low block, like 20 inputs of a damage MOVE in 1 SECOND lol.
@MaskedGuyCh12 күн бұрын
This guy... lmao Imagine blatantly cheating, getting washed, then coming in chat and being in denial about your cheating. What a joke xD
@JohnSmith-uf3yn12 күн бұрын
Games 11 months in & they sold 4 mil & focusing on nickel & diming the player base. Unfortunately ranked now has longer que times, still has cheaters & 1 & doners & boosters. They won’t do anything it isn’t a priority to them
@UserDoesNotExist57012 күн бұрын
Agree 100% I been saying the same thing. I enjoy watching tekken 8 more then playing it it unfortunately. I had enough of the suspicious game play online. This game is too spammy & mash button friendly for me, way too many cheaters online that people are not aware of. Like it really is so obvious to tell. If you can never land a hit on your opponent & your mixing them up good, and he can land his hits, there you go. Even when I’m holding the block button back, I’m still getting hit, & I’m in neutral too. Smh.
@GKillaG12 күн бұрын
1 & Done isn’t on the same level as a cheater.
@yoshuv975812 күн бұрын
I dont mind one and doners as I, a lot of times do not want to rematch super tryhard dragunuv players or disrespectful players who ki charge after winning
@ensar411512 күн бұрын
I have given up on ranked. Its full of cheaters and rage quitters (Ultra narcissists). They make me feel demotivated to touch Ranked. They are like a cancer, vermin, a headache, a tumor or virus. If Namco does not clean up their st*pid act, after waiting for more than a decade, they can expect people to drop their game. Enough is enough.
@willevans4512 күн бұрын
Ive only experienced long que times after after Tekken king. Bushin and lower has great times
@RuTo9412 күн бұрын
I played this guy I knew he was hacking after the 5th parry low parry and just started grabbing him LOL
@jkdman200712 күн бұрын
He will turn on the throw breaking cheat next time. 😂
@zanshibumi12 күн бұрын
It's very disappointing that an important game with a long history, like Tekken, can't hire good enough devs to do ANYTHING about this for almost ten years now.
@DookJob12 күн бұрын
tell me a game that solved the current cheating epidemic
@zanshibumi12 күн бұрын
@@DookJob Follow one pro League of Legends player streaming. How often do you see a player with game breaking cheats who can crush a game with zero experience? Because I follow almost a dozen pro Tekken players and they face this bullshit regularly. Second example. Point to me a LoL player who actively cheats live on stream while explaining how to install and run the hacks. Because we had that in Tekken for literally more than five consecutive years.
@jkdman200712 күн бұрын
Now they can adjust the mode to not low parry 100%, to not punish 100%, to not break throws 100%, to not duck highs 100%...I mean it's harder to catch cheaters now. They often use cheat modes when they play ranked match, but they turn it off or use less cheat modes when they play player match. When you look at their profile they have 90+ defense number, but when you play them at player match, they can't block anything even the slowest sweeps.
@zanshibumi12 күн бұрын
@@jkdman2007 I don't have a solution. But I also don't believe it was impossible to find one in a decade if they had invested the most minuscule of efforts. The fact is they don't care because they can't monetize it. If they could sell an anti-cheat for $10 we'd have a working one by December.
@DookJob12 күн бұрын
@@zanshibumi LOL never had highlevel cheating, Maphacks, scripting, botting only get you so far, you still need to play the game. Also AI/bots still hasn't been able to beat a 5 man pro team, unlike FPS and fighting games where you can program a near 100% win rate against a human player. And don't bring up openai beating people, cheaters don't have that compute power yet.
@ettoreozzy993212 күн бұрын
24:46 is funny that it seems every time he gets hit or blocks 2 there is a 5 or 6 frame of d or db but because the guy is mashing it register a ws move or heat burst and he gets counter hit
@Saiche133712 күн бұрын
This guys banned now I'm pretty sure
@Hype_Incarnate12 күн бұрын
good, I hope they reset his shit as well.
@mikearsen458012 күн бұрын
They don't ban cheaters what are u talking about
@gtaocinematics12 күн бұрын
@@mikearsen4580 They do in Tekken 8 if the account has enough reports
@Saiche133712 күн бұрын
@@mikearsen4580You're actually right this guy isn't banned I was confusing him with a different cheater who has a similar name that is banned xd
@DeezNutzzzzzzzzzzz10 күн бұрын
@@Saiche1337that might be him as well lol you never know
@rykehuss343512 күн бұрын
I wonder why cheaters dont use Yoshi, flash everything and low parry everything and become unstoppable
@KDGFishing11 күн бұрын
"Recommended Sample Combos" enough said man, LMFAOOOO
@rhouy22-md7rg3 күн бұрын
most cheaters have no idea how easy it is to detect weird tekken gameplay lol
@60000L12 күн бұрын
Their input history is insane lol
@adventuretimewithjoe12 күн бұрын
I played this guy before. His win streaks are insane and his inputs are the most obvious detection for the latest hacks you find on the forums. There are 2 types of hacks, auto block/parry/combo and rollback scripts to cause delay on other player. Both hacks can be scaled so you can tune it each round
@HolySaviorL1ghtКүн бұрын
“Put that in that ai fool” had me tears gg
@ufd609 күн бұрын
The AI boy instantly duck after one electric😂
@maximilianoalcaraz73513 күн бұрын
that heihachi plays like me on a sunday afternoon, completely hungover from saturday night...moves like a slug, don't know what to do against mids, punishes nothing, barely does any combo lol
@foxsteve993712 күн бұрын
did not know anakin was john connor
@SaltyPipe12 күн бұрын
I love that u can see the second he toggles it
@gtaocinematics12 күн бұрын
What a scumbag, look at his electrics 1 frame for forward neutral and down forward then 4 frames on his 2 he also always has the 1+2, 1, 1+2, 2 pattern with the same frames. Imagine been so bad you need cheats for help and still loose
@johnsnowden376910 күн бұрын
This Stock_2k guy has to be trolling. Never heard of this guy before either.
@Elbow-FGC12 күн бұрын
“I have ms that’s why I hold down 😂😂😂😂
@LordPumperNickel_Real12 күн бұрын
When are you gonna do sparing with viewers?
@sandraparkinsonpaints8 күн бұрын
Is this exclusive to PC or do other platforms have these cheaters too? I'm lower rank but I see them a lot too.
@jinnosuke4463Сағат бұрын
Rematching him is diabolical 😂
@cenizen12 күн бұрын
“There’s a glitch in the systemmmm” 😭😭
@alidagreat3212 күн бұрын
Yo the Ronald McDonald skin took me out i died 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@maxchinchin25734 күн бұрын
Don't blame saying they are cheaters if you can't beat your opponents
@natohs12 күн бұрын
His back and his df inputs were so strange
@somethindarker12 күн бұрын
I hate Jack. I hate playing him. I hate fighting him. But watching a good Jack play is so much fun.
@tomorourke688512 күн бұрын
I’ve found a way to beat these guys with Steve, he has alternative rapid press enders to a lot of his strings where he’ll faint a high and hit mid, these autoduck low parry chrats react to the original string and get hit by the mid almost every time
@amadeoclemente842114 сағат бұрын
Based on my experience, I can only say that you should never trust a player with "demon eyes". It seems to be the hallmark of all toxic players (cheaters, ki chargers, rage quitters, one and doners...)
@Jax75712 күн бұрын
I can just imagine him updating his software looking like Dr.Boskonivitch trying to lame his way to success.
@kopamees783312 күн бұрын
he toggled in the 1st match at round 2 or 3 when he stood still, he also enabled 1 button electrics lol, someone who does a pewgfs does not just constantly do perfect 1 input 2, you usually have some buffering happening in the input list but his didnt.
@DameJayTTV9 күн бұрын
just looking at the cheaters inputs when he isn't doing anything but crouching is crazy lol
@Monolith_16 күн бұрын
And 10 October is the last time that account was used, after your matches 😂
@MisterTwit11 күн бұрын
The guy has to insist he's not cheating because he paid so much money to boost to that rank he'd be devastated if he couldn't sit on his golden toilet and mash against players that know exactly what he's doing
@hida_berserker14 сағат бұрын
16:00 it looks like the bot is mashing the down block. The game I play is also full of cheaters and don't get banned and are running free. I miss the good ole days before the internet.
@OctopusH2O12 күн бұрын
Cheaters also have no style on their customizations, or even worse no creativity to make a costume.
@77d33 күн бұрын
This dude is orange to green ranks without the cheats.
@gstylerickyКүн бұрын
Played today against one of the cheaters. They exist in low ranks
@kayoh816012 күн бұрын
Played this guy. Thought he was just goated w/ sauce. Shame.
@krullexneo12 күн бұрын
His fucking inputs are wild lmao but seriously, I'm, Kishin/Bushin with Kaz, Jin and now Hei. Started playing in T7 and went from character to character till I finally settled on Kazuya and oh boy... Learning Tekken with Kazuya is tough but it made me good and I think I'm good. Better than average for sure, especially most blue ranks I'd say. I've been noticing more and more of these low block/low parry script cheaters and it's getting a bit bad tbh... :(
@Zachebi6 күн бұрын
I noticed a massive surge when heihachi released, all pc players with sus af perfect inputs, deny pc players in ranked now
@krullexneo6 күн бұрын
@@Zachebi It's sadly even on consoles too, the Cronus or something like that allows people to run scripts, macros etc from what I've heard anyway. But at least that has a fairly high barrier to entry, the device is about $100 so it's there but far less common
@alidagreat3212 күн бұрын
Imagine cheating and still loose cheaters are so sad 🤣🤣🤣
@pharl412 күн бұрын
Almost all of his low blocks were held at either 12 or 24 frames CONSISTENTLY. There is coincidence but i don't even know the chances of that happening in 3 matches straight.
@the_gratefulgamer3 күн бұрын
So the real time virtual controller. Is something I've never seen before. But the placement of it here is terrible. Because it covers the Rtt numbers. I can easily gage whether the signal interference is happening in a glance. 2:50 See how it goes red on the end. That's not supposed to happen with a stable connection.
@JumpRecapped11 күн бұрын
How do you display the frame data...
@TheGreatAustino12 күн бұрын
25:39 frustrated after being tbagged 1st dan rage art behavior
@prod.byGats2 күн бұрын
Yea that’s why I don’t crossplay and why didn’t you report him after the games?
@HuanLingaming199610 күн бұрын
''maybe a cheating guy'' 😂😂
@Hdubs93312 күн бұрын
follows up landing 2 electrics into a backstep.. then low parries like he created the mechanic himself. Surely not cheating
@TriscoG12 күн бұрын
Theres a fair amount of cheaters even in red ranks funny enough. Some dont use autoblock but have something that perfectly counters or beats your timing
@DecksterGaming12 күн бұрын
So square and triangle are auto move for hoshi? All I seen you click literally entire clip
@Kross199512 күн бұрын
Thank Christ I play on console with cross play disabled lmao
@cursedcrow103312 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 He dont even know how to Tornado, like cmon bro
@duck140811 күн бұрын
You know youre on some crazy shit when you win a cheater lol
@jamaalchardavoine14535 күн бұрын
Why didn’t you report him?
@KROSEZ-u9b4 күн бұрын
His df2 was "held" for 4 frames on electric, in every electric he did. Even the ones he misses have this exact input such as 18:43 because the dumbass pressed his electric macro inside of crouch dash without cancelling LMAO
@AED_00112 күн бұрын
THE TBAG LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@dannicolas912812 күн бұрын
Built different
@RhinoGeee5 күн бұрын
That guy should uninstall after cheating and losing like that. Or have spent time training instead of looking up cheats.
@DeanExplains12 күн бұрын
1:30 how to evade those punches? it always gets me and I can't duck
@jordenbowen943212 күн бұрын
The jabs are confirmed for breaking your block with his homing move out of stance which can be ducked but in stance he has mix-up so you kinda just gotta pay attention to habits and guess accordingly. General rule of thumb though is he is more likely to go for the block break move out of stance if your back is against the wall because the jab string wall splats into really good wall damage combo
@geraldespinosa48611 күн бұрын
Hilarious.. Every single electric is also 1 1 1 4 frame electric macro every single time. I just came from ranked and faced a similar situation with another Hei. Why is it always Heihachi that cheaters use?
@mfpv_detroit818212 күн бұрын
That's why I stopped playing Tekken 8
@marklo628312 күн бұрын
This barely happens dawg
@Zachebi6 күн бұрын
This is why i get all fighting games on console and deny pc matches in ranked
@paulnguyen27412 күн бұрын
Hi Anakin, "The Last Chance Qualifier (LCQ) is scheduled for a capacity of 512 participants." Can I play the last chance qualifier if they exceed 512 participants ? round 3 has not been opened for registration yet. Thanks.
@krossk770412 күн бұрын
so im just bad at tekken i see
@Mercen-Airy12 күн бұрын
Ran into a Dragunov plugger..... I was using Lee.😂 Bandai isnt banning anyone except high followed streamers.
@rpgSORA12 күн бұрын
Bro dropped his age 😂 We don't give af your 43 bro lmao
@dannyrpt12 күн бұрын
Damn Heihachi being ONLY -10 on his 1+2 is so cheap... And also having his blocked hellsweep being ONLY -10 and with a staggered animation is so cheap man.
@marioster212 күн бұрын
Reina 1+2 is -10 too
@mongerponsky277912 күн бұрын
@@marioster2both of them should be -13!
@DownBadDad-iz9mp11 күн бұрын
@@mongerponsky2779 bears are -13.
@marioster211 күн бұрын
@@DownBadDad-iz9mp harada hates bears
@mongerponsky277911 күн бұрын
@@DownBadDad-iz9mp exactly
@Trinioutsider3412 күн бұрын
I’ll never understand cheaters that get involved with Fighting Games lol
@BigDaddyWes12 күн бұрын
I'll never understand people who say shit like this. Like wtf you mean you don't understand?? It's not complicated. Why do you pretend like it's some crazy impossible to grasp concept? Super frustrating when people act like it's just so far beyond anything they could possibly comprehend, as if their moral superiority just simply doesn't allow for the possibility. Think about it for more than two seconds I'm SURE you can come up with something.
@chad485812 күн бұрын
@@BigDaddyWes No I legitimately can't understand any reason you'd cheat a fighting game other than a completely broken brain or if you were cheating in tournements for cash.
@dogeeee60612 күн бұрын
@@BigDaddyWesrelax bro you sound unhinged lmao
@Trinioutsider3412 күн бұрын
@@BigDaddyWes Lol, man came in here looking for a fight. Calm down there don't pop a blood vessel.
@AngeloGene21 сағат бұрын
@@BigDaddyWesFound the cheater. xD
@bioswat9612 күн бұрын
If he plays like a noob on high ranks - he probably cheats. At least that's the first main sus thing
@meeese6_12 күн бұрын
GoD heihachi but never pressed 1+4
@madterps12 күн бұрын
How the hell can you do electric and not learn his combos? Definitely a cheater, it's a damn shame that Bamco is focusing on the collab bullshit rather than banning a whole bunch of these cheaters.
@Delta4Weapons12 күн бұрын
Probably has an electric macro too
@RichiePajooh-r8i12 күн бұрын
what makes you think his electrics are legit there’s a macro for that too man people don’t play the game it’s pathetic
@H1nted12 күн бұрын
his electric is cheated look at the input history always frame perfect electri 1f 1f 1f 4f LIKE ALWAYS, and then he mashes in combos x)
@BigDaddyWes12 күн бұрын
Bad take. Let's not pretend like the same people make those decisions. It doesn't serve anyone.cthe devs are on your side and you should encourage them instead of treating them like the bad guys.
@blackmask4046 күн бұрын
Only reason I don’t do crossplay either that or they plug 🔌
@nyji2612 күн бұрын
maybe i’m reaching but does this noob also have a auto rematch button?? literally all matches they insta rematched at the same time anakin did lol
@60000L12 күн бұрын
nah usually if one person waits for their points to be added, and the other presses Rematch, it'll look like its being pressed at the same time from the perspective of the person that waited
@rebar3312 күн бұрын
Heating in a videogsme is lame
@leemcgee516412 күн бұрын
2:04 they miss an electric, could still be cheating tho
@mongerponsky277912 күн бұрын
Yah that doesn’t matter they could just choose to not use a electric macro
@MrOrangeonion3 сағат бұрын
I play like this guy, I dont learn endless keep you in the air combos i just learn from myself, and i vs enough people depending on who i can block almost everything, im bad at punishing depending since i dont know the string combos that are go to meta. But whatever, i saw nothing bad with the guy, just a bunch of meta elitist expectations. I have only watched till 5 mins. So i dont know if something crazy happened later. Because i seen alot of low hits in the 5 mins and he didnt block it at all and wasnt in attack motion either.
@acidphoenix911012 күн бұрын
Can’t believe there’s hackers on tekken 8 now, has to be a pc user they always be on some bullshit
@mikekingtaberna891712 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying blue ranks are better than this guy, 💙 👌 😏.
@DevinMadison-kr8rx2 күн бұрын
You keep repeating moves, and when he catches you, you say see it's a bot. Maybe I'm out of the loop cause i dont see it. maybe he's just better than you... it happens
@Gwar-Deth5 күн бұрын
i fought one player 3 matches he lost really bad after talking crap then he goes to clamed the fights didnt even happen talk about sad cheaters ruin this game that loser went by the name cold-cuts and colddeuce you see this name prep for a cheater fight
@azteckjumbie934412 күн бұрын
Df 2..1 hold into dash Df2,1 stance..f1 easy 70 dmg .