Is War About to Break Out Between Rwanda and the DRC?

[@AloisAgos]

Born too early for the war in the Congo, born too soon for the war in the Congo, born just in time for the war in the Congo.

[@eduardoreyes441]

Bingo Bango Bongo?

[@langtonyeah9669]

@@eduardoreyes441 i’m so happy in the Congo

[@clashkingking6193]

@@langtonyeah9669y’all got mpox and this

[@LoniVI]

@@langtonyeah9669 oh no no no no no

[@BLACKSTA361]

The US and Belgium knew what they were doing when getting rid of Lumumba back then None of this would've even happened in the first place

[@KMS00000zero]

I hope I live to see the Congo one day not be completely terrible

[@MrBASShunt3r]

Don't hold your breath. 😢

[@notusneo]

You need to be reincarnated multiple times

[@darthkek1953]

Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh, wait, you're serious? In that case. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

You won't. Stop the false optimism.

[@thehuman2cs715]

It's first president was quite good and lead a stable government until he was assassinated by the CIA

[@thepax2621]

Sometimes, History doesn't repeat itself... it *loops* 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@i_luv_marbled_bread]

Isn't that kind of the same thing though?

[@TheDrawnCard]

​​@@i_luv_marbled_breadNot really, Repeating means that the same actors and time events keep happening the same way. When it loops, it means that actions keep feeding themselvse across time and allow a repeat of these events to happen. A war is started due to drought > due to fighting there is now less money and safety to build dams or places to keep water Also also, a repition can't be broken. A loop can. This is done by apply something external and extreme into the mix.

[@lionflame21]

Somalia is waving

[@thesalandarian3314]

It rhymes but doesn’t repeat

[@our10picks18]

I’m Kenyan and I pray for the day DRC will be peaceful and prosperous as ever coz it’s the whole continent that stands to benefit! DRC literally has everything needed to make Africa self sufficient and independent! Apart from the crazy huge mineral resources, the biggest hydropower dam in the world if implemented fully (Grand Inga Dam) has potential to generate 40 - 70 GW of clean energy enough to power several countries effortlessly! I love the Congolese people a lot coz they’re friendly, hardworking and entrepreneurial! But it’s a shame how DRC has turned out to be coz of the evil and selfish ambitions of some powers from within and outside the continent! 😏

[@domenico_ginny6164]

And those outside powers are?

[@Toonrick12]

​@@domenico_ginny6164Mostly mining companies and the whatever company makes the device you're watching on.

[@xkaiokenx10]

@@domenico_ginny6164 European and Asian companies, including Bangkok-based THAISARCO (a subsidiary of British metals group AMC), UK-based Afrimex, and Belgium-based Trademet have been buying minerals from the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) that are funding armed groups and fuelling conflict, said Global Witness in a report published in 2009. I’m sure if you do some research, there’s other influences besides private corporations

[@cqpp]

​@@domenico_ginny6164France probably

[@SussySussy-so7lq]

@@domenico_ginny6164 Belgium / King Leopold.

[@josephblow4992]

I sure hope war doesn't happen. I was just in Rwanda, including near the DRC border, and there are so many lovely people there. I met great Congolese people too. Praying for peace

[@renemanegu8554]

thanks dear.am leaving near Rwanda to. in Goma

[@heraldloshi1864]

AMEN 🙏

[@vachagan2007]

Bro I swear for my whole life I feel like DRC and Rwanda are going to war with each other

[@mansur8451]

There could be real war this time because the tutsi proxy that rwanda relies on is a small group and tutsis are a small minority even along the congo's eastern border. Rwanda has no other major proxies so if the conglolese military manages to make gains against the m23 rebels then rwanda will likely invade. Kagame has been preparing for years for this.

[@RuffinItAB]

They've been in a sort of proxy war for a long time

[@davidescristofaros2241]

Don't worry... Nothing ever happens

[@gmderek4620]

@@mansur8451if they can even defeat m23, which for Congo is not even possible.

[@FortuneZer0]

@@gmderek4620 plus south african help

[@user2kffs]

This cocktail has everything: natural resources, ethnicities, corruption, russia, poverty.. the list goes on

[@otis3744]

the west ? you think france is to be outdone in africa

[@natgenesis5038]

Russia or USA

[@davidk9382]

@@natgenesis5038 Africa.

[@Kret-o]

There's something so crazy about small little Rwanda slapping around the 2nd largest country in Africa

[@FictionHubZA]

I really don't understand why this is even happening. They're not that far off from each other in terms of wealth. Yet this country is menacing a country with ten times more people.

[@Anonymous-o6q6o]

​@@FictionHubZAsize of the DRC is the problem most of the population is on the west and the country is largely covered by the second largest rainforest in the world

[@LG0o0-y9k]

@@FictionHubZAGdP only tells you so much about a Nations capacity, while yes Ruanda is also very poor, the Gouvernement is fully capable of utilising State Power To Wage war effectivly, With effektiv follow through and discipline among troops. This is not at all the case in the congo and due to corruption troop morale is super low, battalions will somerimes not even try to fight m23 and the rwandan military and just retreat because of lack of morale. To sum it up, rwanda is one of the Most effectivly managed countries in africa, the congo is one of the worst managed This creates the at first glance confusing power imbalance.

[@Sp7033]

Rwanda has been backed by powerful western countries

[@pkhaloobonaccio9883]

doesn't mean shit when the other country has been in a state of near anarchy for most of its independence

[@malegria9641]

“First Congo, second Congo, when will third Congo come? Three million dead yet nobody’s won” - a poem I wrote in like 8th grade

[@hoppywern9057]

Deep

[@thelonewanderer2550]

Deep Bro 😔✊️

[@malegria9641]

@@thelonewanderer2550 in my defense we were asked to write a poem about a current event 😭

[@SnoweyLeopards]

"I don't know what weapons will be used in the 3rd Congo War, but I know the 4th will be fought with sticks and stones." - Sun Tzu.

[@abarette_]

@@SnoweyLeopards kek

[@ahorrell]

To TLDR: Thank you so much for covering this! I've spent years learning about the conflicts in this region, so I'm stoked to see it get some attention. You did an admirable job of covering something this complicated in seven minutes - I have a few quibbles, but this is possibly the best short summary I've seen on KZbin. Well done! To viewers: Here are some good books on the Congo conflict: - Dancing in the Glory of Monsters, by Jason Stearns: A good easy read that covers the same stuff as this video. A great starter - In the Footsteps of Mr Kurtz, by Michela Wrong: Focuses on the rise and fall of Mobutu, who ruled DR Congo until Rwanda removed him in the first war. Maybe the best-written book on Congo - she's a fantastic writer. - Africa's World War, by Gerald Prunier: Probably the best book on the second war. Prunier is a great writer and very funny, but this one book gets quite detailed in sections. - Congo, The Epic History of a People, by David Van Reynbrouk: Good background on the country. - The War that Doesn't Say its Name, by Stearns: This covers the conflict since 2003, including the M23. A bit more academic. Also, you can't go wrong with King Leopold's Ghost (about the colonial period) and Heart of Darkness by Conrad or the Poisonwood Bible for fiction. There's a lot of great books on Rwanda (the genocide, the war in Rwanda, the Congo Wars). My faves are: - Shake Hands with the Devil, by Gen Dallaire - Land of a Thousand Hills, Kinzer (take the praise for the President with a grain of salt). - Do Not Disturb, M Wrong (for a harsher view of the President) - The Rwanda Crisis, Prunier - Leave None to Tell the Story, Des Forges (probably THE book on the genocide - but long and detailed) Also, you cant go wrong with the movie Hotel Rwanda.

[@CharlotteDove]

I was just about to go looking for books about this subject after watching the video -- thanks for the recommendations!

[@rutonde]

Not to forget Stepp'd in Blood (by wallis 2019); The Media and the Rwanda Genocide (by thompson 2007); and Intent to Deceive (by melvern 2020). It would even be better to get a copy of the great compendium published in 1995 by African Rights.

[@pascualromero8245]

To solve this problem in my opinion they needed to undergo similar to Napoleon's government structure, where the commander-in-chief will be run by the President's most loyal ally but the most experienced and capable would be in charge of the rest. The government structure will also had to restructured where it would have bottom-up approached, invited rebels to be part of government like in a senior military position and also start making peace with the other hostile tribe.

[@ahorrell]

@@rutonde There's a lot of great academic stuff on Rwanda too, ay? Congo is tough, because a lot of good stuff is probably written in french

[@rutonde]

@@ahorrell That’s right although the literature on Rwanda is something of a myne field because it’s peppered with many denialists. Some go for the head-on approach while others are more insidious but both varieties are harmful to the country’s safety.

[@anneeq008]

Congo's story of so sad. Like Nigeria. It should have been so much better.....

[@divinefavour1289]

what are you talking about? it was never supposed to be better

[@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π]

​@@divinefavour1289the DRC is one of the most resource rich areas in the world so that would give it a great advantage. What exactly do you mean that it could not be better

[@divinefavour1289]

@@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π resources arent wealth and dont make people great. it is the talent and the actions of the people that makes them great

[@cegesh1459]

​@@divinefavour1289 It was always to be lot better. Grow up.

[@InugamiTheHound]

too many Muslims in Nigeria is killing all Christians and this causing a lot problems for the economy.

[@katynewt]

One thing's for sure, whatever happens there, the rest of the world will do its very best to ignore it.

[@scoobydoobers23]

It's not hard. When regions/states aren't integrated into the global supply chain no one has to care unless they want to.

[@chillout914]

yeah cause it is not our problem

[@Thetrendsafrica]

Ask Google what UN and France did in 1994 when here was genocide in Rwanda they just packed things and left 1 million peaples killed

[@scoobydoobers23]

@@ruzimabonieck6908 I mean, we can ask. There's just no reason for you to care. We tend to rely on buying the crappy old Soviet equipment those countries have. Or replacing it with a small number of decent American systems. That said, my point wasn't that we shouldn't care, just that it's easy to ignore if you (as a citizen) want to.

[@ruzimabonieck6908]

@@scoobydoobers23 sorry, I was responding to the main comment

[@EarlHare]

I always wondered why the Tory Government thought it was a good idea to send migrants to Rwanda. Now we know why Rwanda needs more young men.

[@wotkosk]

mfs would have flown to Rwanda on monday and on tuesday they would appear in east Kongo 😭😭😭

[@thebigmarvinski]

and why they needed Tory money.

[@xavmanisdabestest]

Rwanda is also where Russia has been recruiting new troops if you can believe. Turn those migraints anti West Real quick

[@jax2433]

@@wotkosk not at all, life feels like normal, it's not like Russia currently. Tbh, as someone living here in Kigali, you barely even know or notice what's going on because neither Government openly talks about it (unless its an election). The situation is not treated like how conflict and politics are broadcast on a daily basis in western media, governments aren't trying to radicalize people out here to join a pointless war.

[@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π]

​@@jax2433Paul kagame wouldn't want to reveal his secret dictatorship so he likes to keep things under wraps

[@caty863]

Among all the minerals you listed, you forgot *coltan* and it is the most important of all in this region.

[@mecalegrand3542]

*WE ARE FLEEING TO EUROPE WITH THIS ONE BOIS* 🗣 🔥

[@LazyRecap32]

Don‘t expect a welcoming experience, that train is long gone😂 too many people, not enough capacity to keep up, too many incidents with bad seeds involving violence/crime which ruins the reputation for all the real ones, higher prices/inflation and massive bottled up unhappiness waiting to vent out at someone to blame. Pretty sure we‘re all ending up like nomads to the next best countries after the own is slowly dragged down with problems especially with more future conflicts/resources scarcity and at some point morals are thrown away and people let out their own Trump with fu we‘re building a wall stay out 🤣

[@FictionHubZA]

The vast majority flee to other African countries. Uganda, Kenya, South Africa and Tanzania took in the millions who were displaced.

[@Mr_Oculus]

Tensions with Rwanda again? Man, the DRC can't ever catch a break huh?

[@fabriciogoodchild2659]

It never will until all the minerals are gone

[@stephenclark9917]

But the tories passed a law saying that Rwanda was a safe country to live in?

[@BS-jw7nf]

cant be wrong, it's the law

[@darthkek1953]

Rwanda itself is.

[@vincentmahon6423]

Shameful support for a country and government that does not respect international borders.

[@warsawtugger]

I live in Rwanda and it is remarkably safe, everywhere including right up to the border with the DRC. The Tories were trying to frame a law that gave them freedom to persecute people who were already fleeing persecution .

[@RedJadeArt]

I gather Rwanda *itself* is *currently* safe, but it’s basically being accused of involving itself with M23, which operates mostly in North Kivu, which is in the DRC but obviously M23 disagrees with the DRC’s government controlling these regions. How much Rwanda supports M23 is a bit of a question mark, they did support them up until 2013, the UN is alleging that they still do support them and Rwanda denies this. At the same time Rwanda is also accusing the Congolese government of backing the FDLR, which is an anti -Rwandan government paramilitary. Congo denies that. Either way it’s fairly volatile and I can’t really think of any similar comparisons in recent history? I think the closest example is during the Troubles where the Irish government believed Britain was offering covert support to unionist paramilitaries and vice versa - and while neither government *officially* did that, some number of rogue elements in both governments did, and it’s still an unsolved question as to who did and to what extent. It’s like that on a much bigger and more violent scale. We ultimately got through the troubles without the two official governments fully declaring war on each other but there was times when it came seriously close. Rwanda and Congo have already been to war before, the prospect of a round two over this is not impossible. If that *did* happen, Rwanda definitely wouldn’t be safe. And there is a prospect of that happening in like, the next ten years. It’s not the type of place I would deem an appropriate, indefinite safe home for refugees fleeing other conflict zones, because it might well be one before the end of the decade.

[@reneroux2391]

Three days after this video there was an incident on the border where a Congolese soldier randomly started shooting towards Rwanda things are escalating everyday.

[@user-zh1lz1rj6e]

No they are not, no one in Rwanda cares at all!

[@andrewklang809]

Wait-- Wagner Group is there too, "having been contracted by the different players"...which parties exactly?

[@teaser6089]

Wagner is all across Africa serving the highest payer

[@andrewklang809]

@@teaser6089 So the answer is "yes"?

[@عربيمسلمفيلندن]

@@andrewklang809Pretty much, actually.

[@mansur8451]

Wagner is mostly in french ex colonies where france has lost or is losing influence. Russia is neutral between Congo and Rwanda so its unlikely Wagner will play any major role

[@NovaHessia]

@@teaser6089 No it doesn't. Let's not pretend it's an actual mercenary force. It's a military instrument of the Russian state. They will serve whoever is supporting Russia, willing to become a vassal state, like Mali, Chad etc have. So the question is, which side would that be here?

[@neodenz]

Well, this will certainly help the East African Federation!

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

It most certainly helps tech multinationals looking for Tantalum at tantalizing price points.

[@blazer9547]

Always others' fault.​@@BatsiraiMusuka

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

@@blazer9547 not always. Much in the same way as l don’t expect you or anyone in this thread to have been in said boardroom. It’s just the complex world humanity has crafted into being. Much of what we live through is a bold bouquet of gray.

[@Vielenberg]

Wasn't the DRC just admitted to the East African Community with Rwanda?

[@filipe5722]

And the relationship has already broken down with DRC expelling EAC troops from the country. The membership never was an equal one with DRC being treated as a vassal by the others.

[@Vielenberg]

@@filipe5722 I still don't get why the EAC is admitting any state outside the core five. Every new, and unstable member (South Sudan, DRC, Somalia (!!!)) just makes the proposed confederation more and more unlikely (maybe that's the reason?).

[@thecafcl8409]

It's core 3 (Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania). The others don't belong and never will.

[@Vielenberg]

@@thecafcl8409 Fine with me. Takes care of the language issue as well. However they should act and act fast even they want to think about creating a regional power which they definitely should.

[@filipe5722]

@@Vielenberg Because the core is still in control and this way they gain access to resources and potentially (if things went well) would be able to help stabilize their neighborhood.

[@Swavy32]

Free Congo 🇨🇩🇨🇩

[@binancerwanda]

Congo must free itself

[@i.b3744]

​@@binancerwanda you said it well

[@marvinamann4969]

The world: we already have enough wars right now, maybe we should all take a break? Africa: I hear not enough conflict? Hold my beer

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

I wonder where a gorilla army like M28 gets sophisticated weapons from… As l type on my iPhone with components made with rare 3T minerals found in The Congo. 🥷🏾

[@orboakin8074]

As a Nigerian, i laugh and cry while reading this. Funny, sad and true

[@majeedmamah7457]

Its spelt guerilla ​@@BatsiraiMusuka

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

@@majeedmamah7457 Thanks. I always seem to default to the wrong one. Symptoms of growing up with peaceful people. 😂

[@TheWebstaff]

​@@BatsiraiMusukaFreudian slip?..

[@ismailadan556]

Peace peace I pray for my brother in both countries

[@maxlife459]

it was a mistake to draw borders.

[@HOSIAKE0723EM]

M23 are Congolese not Rwandese. Just because I am Tutsi doesn’t mean that I am a Rwandan.

[@nkurunzizaolivier7435]

all the issues that Congo has will always be there until the resources that the whole world even the UN is looking for are no longer there.

[@larryfoster8820]

People got too much energy for hate

[@Itgyrl909]

They sure do, sadly.

[@captainalex157]

right? man that must be exhausting

[@MiguelDLewis]

More like energy for rare Earth minerals. Hate is just a tool to that end.

[@4m4n40]

Yeah, it’s not like a rival country is housing and protecting people who genocided 800k people or something

[@captainalex157]

@Horus-j3f depends on how intensely you hate, try to keep a strong hatred in your heart for 24 hours, i challenge you! xD

[@kc10man]

Keep in mind that the Rawanda is much more wealthy now and has some clout in Europe that it did not have during previous conflicts. They could easily keep eastern Eastern areas of DRC as a "buffer zone."

[@RP-16]

Rwanda is barely reaching $1k gdp per capita. While it seems to be doing great, it is still very very poor. Congo is around $750. So it’s not that much poorer.

[@Jearrow]

​@@RP-16 GNI per capita PPP and poverty rate between both countries differ very much tho. And despite not being very wealthy, Rwanda is the 11th most prosperous country in Africa according to legatume institute, while DRC is at the very bottom. The disparity between those nations doesnt only appear in economy but also peace, infrastructures, healthcare, business, education etc

[@EstaJeanette-nk7fj]

​@@Jearrow rwanda is still one of the poorest countries in the world. It is also one of the least developed places. Wealthy countries in Africa are Egypt, south Africa, sychells, Mauritius, Botswana, Morocco, Kenya, Botswana, tunisia, algeria, equatorial guinea etc. rwanda is not even top 20

[@FictionHubZA]

Rwanda is not very rich. Zimbabwe is twice as rich as it.

[@RP-16]

@@Jearrow Rwanda’s gdp per capita PPP is only 3k. You can have a peaceful nation with a high growth rate but if your the base is so extremely low then it most certainly isn’t prosperous. There are plenty of nations in Africa that are going through economic or political turmoil but they are still far better due to the base standard of living. It’s like how the poor in America are much better off than the world average. as a wise man once said, “Productivity isn't everything, but in the long run, it's almost everything”

[@DK3Hunna_]

Thank you for talking about my country🙏

[@cakie_0933]

I'm surprised how much of Congos history not mentioned. Its great context

[@imvanotv106]

The story is not complete without explaining that Rwanda was divided and it's bigger party land has been given to DRC by colonialists. Those Rwandans that has been made Congolese people by Belgium has been denied their citizenship as Congolese government still see them as Rwandans. Well if you deny people it's better to leave them with their land.

[@1wun1]

And also that part of these Rwandans are the biggest enemies of the M23 rebels, since govt soldiers don't wanna fight.

[@imperialhistory6120]

That's simply not true. The borders of Rwanda existed before colonialism and are the result of the kingdom of Rwanda and its Kings conquests. Germany and Belgium didn't know anything about Rwanda and so kept the borders of the old kingdom.

[@1wun1]

@@imperialhistory6120 'Conquests'

[@kipapula6838]

​@@imperialhistory6120lies. The boarders of Rwandan kingdom cut across congo and big chunks in Uganda. Why would Uganda have Kinyarwanda named cities almost reaching Kampala if it wasn't the case. Same with tribes that share boarders with Uganda and Kenya, some have relatives in Uganda or Kenya because of being given to the other country. History is there and you can't change it

[@briandcarrelirunga1965]

😂😂😂😂😂😂you guys are really funny

[@nanahunter3808]

Beautifully explained!!

[@Happyman28778]

2020s: Hey remember that war you vaguely saw once on TV in the 2000s or read about in class? Yeah so we’re gonna restart like all of them and add drones and stuff to make it interesting

[@takudzwamlambo8726]

To be honest this is one of the best channels on KZbin especially for current affairs

[@R.E-k3w]

I have family in Burundi and nothing terrifies me more than a war in the region

[@darkfool2000]

Begin? I was never under the impression that the war had really stopped.

[@guylandry9257]

What I am really interested in is how powerful countries are involved. Because I can easily imagine how profitable the current state of central Africa is, given how rich it is.

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

You… are a critical thinker. A lot of comments on here are a beautiful display of shallowness.

[@Lin.Do.n]

The rest of the world probably just wants the minerals, and are not interested in sending troops to stop the war. I think the majority of mining company in the Congo us Chinese, but you have South African, Indian, European and Americans as well. Rwanda have also managed to have close ties with both the West and China at the same time.

[@ahorrell]

Less involved than you think. We westerners like to think that every conflict involves us, but the leaders of Rwanda and Uganda are not western puppets. They have their own agendas, and they're more than capable of acting on their own behalf.

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

@@ahorrell Oh! What a relief. I was so worried. At least the problem is less complex than l initially thought (and less funded). The world is simpler today than it used to be. There’s hope.

[@leroydanny4072]

​@@ahorrellthink all the electronics your country produces, probably the crucial elements needed for it to work comes from Congo

[@rue2003]

great video young man!As an African, i appreciate your objectivity

[@Kris_96]

"Rwanda, a safe third country" - Rishi Sunak

[@graceneilitz7661]

Rwanda is relatively safe, and for African countries it’s great. It’s called the Singapore of Africa for a reason.

[@FictionHubZA]

​@@graceneilitz7661This all hinges on the idea that the fighting doesn't spill over to them one day.

[@graceneilitz7661]

@@FictionHubZA I’m not saying Rwanda is super safe, but if we take the example of the second Congo war, most of the fighting occurred in the eastern Congo and not in Rwanda.

[@Sp7033]

@@graceneilitz7661 Pure propaganda. Have you been there?

[@graceneilitz7661]

@@Sp7033 I can read statistics. It’s not Iceland by any means, but it’s not Burkina Faso.

[@Jadot7]

The center of all the problems in Eastern Congo is the constant discrimination/killings of Rwandophones. Due to colonial borders there are Rwandophones across the region who are citizens of those countries that inherited their land from colonial powers. Only DRC has issues with accepting the fact that these people are Congolese despite being culturally Rwandans.

[@geofflepper3207]

I once heard the claim that the reason why the previous Congo war got so little attention (even compared to some other conflicts in Africa) was that it was just too dangerous for journalists to enter the war zone to report. If that is true would that be repeated if there is another major war in the Congo? Every life is precious and matters. Not just the lives of some people in some countries.

[@CuracaoRevisited]

DRC: a beacon of democracy in this hostile world

[@keithfarrell3370]

Thanks for the knowledge

[@kagabopaul3126]

False knowledge 😅

[@beyondeconomics]

Sadly, the true Black Pill is realising that in human history, wars are the norm and peace is the exception.

[@mikicerise6250]

That pill was swallowed by historians ages ago.

[@richardyong535]

Let's hope this doesn't start another continental war

[@fromthehills814]

The problem in Congo is M23 is a bunch of Congolese militants, and the Congolese government keeps asking Rwanda to sign peace deals. Its stupid on Congos behalf. Imagine if Israel came after Iran rather than Hamas after October 11th. Its just noise.

[@EstaJeanette-nk7fj]

You missed the point where m23 are rwandais and Ugandan troops. According to the UN, USA, and the victims of this conflict. Even the their rwandais president says that they are rwandais troops in eastern DRC.

[@fromthehills814]

@@EstaJeanette-nk7fj that's been based off language

[@jacobgsutton]

We never hear about this in the US and it seems like one of, if not the most, deadly situation in the world.

[@InugamiTheHound]

wars in africa are so sad because it seems like africa never catches a break. This cause more need for humanitarian aid and more refugees to europe (europe doesn't want them and will send them back) I feel like botswana is only African nation that is able to move forward and improve themselves and their own country unlike the rest of Africa.

[@GamerZz-yk3mf]

Then you gave no idea

[@abarette_]

wdym "about to break out" bro it has virtually never stopped

[@darthmorgoththesecond9990]

I’m staying out of this war

[@Nachscrach]

I had to watch this twice in order to properly understand all the alliances and rivalries

[@JenniferLucas-o7p]

I'm favoured, $27K every week! I can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless Sonia bless America.

[@GurusharanDas]

Me too I really need help 😢

[@JenniferLucas-o7p]

She's active on What's Apk

[@JenniferLucas-o7p]

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[@JenniferLucas-o7p]

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[@JenniferLucas-o7p]

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[@fullcirclehistory]

3:21 I just want to point out, the FDLR is not an “anti-Rwanda rebel group”. It is a Hutu suprēmacist anti-TUTSI rebel group. It is made up of Rwandan Hutu refugees who took part in the Rwandan gēnocīde.

[@NickBoroto]

FDLR, let's talk about them They arrived in Congo in 1994. How old were they then? How old are they now? Do they recruit new soldiers? Where do they train? How do they get any equipment? Do they still have any base in Rwanda??? If you believe that FDLR still exists, them you have been mistaken big time

[@KJ-be5xx]

@@NickBoroto actually yes. first of all FDLR is an ideology not a group of people. the ideology is to eradicating all tutsis. so yes they are there and they are still recruiting more terrorists and feeding their own children the sick ideology. by the way the government of DRC themselves accepts that the FDLR is still there and they are armed by some congolese elements in power who doesn't like the leadership in kigali. the so called mobutists are the reason why every single process that has been tested to solve the issue never worked cause they do their best to undermine it. tchisekedi was working great and peacefully with the government in kigali until 2022 when the FRDC and FDLR started shelling bombs on the rwandan territory in kinigi(musanze) so that countries would refuse attending the meeting and to undermine the idea of rwanda being safe. that's when M23 started making gains and fighting formidably and gaining land and victories. one thing about current Rwanda is security is at the center of every progress they are making. so any attempt to undermine that they are willing to go crazy to make sure that does not happen at all. and fairly that's how every nation in the world does and should do it including our nation the DRC

[@kagabopaul3126]

​@NickBoroto genocide is ideology my friend And why can't they be sent to Rwanda if they're old and congo aware them?? Crime never be expired

[@NickBoroto]

@@kagabopaul3126 Did you forget that The rwandese Army chased the FDLR from the East to the West of DRC? Did you forget that during the time of Joseph Kabila, the rwandese was invited to look for FDLR? Did you follow an interview of Karega while rwandese ambassador in Drc, he said that that there was no longer an FDLR in Congo... I think we should stop this nosense and come together as Africans, stop killing each other and distribute african wealth - because that is what is all about- and stop empowering the non africans that don't care about the life of us africans. Just a thought my friend...

[@mooniebo2752]

corporations got these people fighting while their resources are stolen.

[@Butdrjyfg]

Bro am Congolese myself, I grew up on the east of Congo, near djugu,dele , the major problem is corruption bro, our government is filled with incompetent people, am surprised to see non Congolese people at some high ranks in our army ,how they got there? I don't know, every 5 year the election is tricked, you're giving us a president who didn't even grew up in Drc, most of our generals are corrupted, 😢 how can you give soldiers ammo that does not fit the gun, soldiers aren't even paid well , it's only grace to Jesus that we're still leaving here

[@vicky-j4p7c]

Are you sure you are Congolese because most of Rwandese like to pretend to be Congolese

[@Butdrjyfg]

@@vicky-j4p7c am Congolese born in the town of Kisangani, hospital saint joseph, I grew up in the capital Kinshasa, quarter North salongo, went to homosapiens primary school, we went to live in the east in 2013, finished secondary school there, I left the town to pursue university studies

[@Butdrjyfg]

Na lobaka lingala malamu penza mais oko comprendre te, biso nyoso toza Bana ta kin, Bana ya mboka, yo moko oyebi ndege tolabaka, RDC eloko ya makasi

[@Butdrjyfg]

Mina simuzaka Swahili vile, lakini si sumuzake musuri sa lingala

[@Butdrjyfg]

J'ai grandi au Congo donc bien sûr je parle bien français, j'ai grandi dans la langue française donc c'est normal, si tu as d'autres questions balance, mais bro je suis vraiment du Congo, peut-être que j'ai juste un IQ élevé, MDR

[@SpamMouse]

Freedom !

[@mal_ed]

Despite its small size, Rwanda has proven superior over its giant neighbour DRC.

[@binancerwanda]

Absolutely 💯, I don't get the logic of how small Rwanda 🇷🇼 that can be swallowed by DRC can threaten it 😂😂

[@christianmpassi3450]

Superior in ruthlessness and malevolence

[@Van-co1dl]

Basically the more stable is continuing to destabilize and take advantage of the more unstable country. Size of the country was never the matter

[@vicky-j4p7c]

The answer for that is because Kagame is a west puppet

[@AmaniDjumaineAlex]

Western élite s financial support with weapon and tactile intelligence gives Kagame force RDF to resist against DRC army FRDC. Without that support Rwanda army is poweless infront of DRCongo army. Why are they unable to take over Goma as it happened during the 1997 war? This war will end with the collapse of Kagame s government as the economi of Rwanda is falling appart. Now 200 army officers and commander sucked by Kagame this is a fear of coup d'etat. Uganda is heavily involved to solidarize with Kagame Miseveni and Kagame are both fearing the coup d'etat that may be supported by DRCONGO. More than 200 militia operate in Eastern Congo nourished by mineral sold to Uganda, Rwanda and Kenya. So these country benefit more when the militia supported by the élites of these countries creat chaos. Somalian, Eritrea, Tanzanian etc are among militia too. And most of the head of militia lives and have their wealth in Rwanda, Uganda, Kenya. That's the reason why the force of SADC cames in under support of South Africa and UN. The Congolese army is stronger despite long war they're fighting for decade, they are good in gorilla war. Their weakness is corruption and infiltration of foreign army in DRCONGO army which is now being fight by actual government. We shouldn't be surprised to see war goes back inside Rwanda which Western elites doesn't want it happened, thus pushing the negotiations between Rwanda and DRCONGO without including M23. As MR23 are considered to be DRCONGO problems and they should be disarmed without integrating the DRCONGO army. Because the army of DRCONGO doesn't want the infiltration of Rwandan military in it command. About the resource of DRCONGO, this country should be neutral like Switzerland in order to accommodate Western Power and Eastern Power (Russia- China etc) for it stabilities.

[@1.4142]

Pity, as economic growth has been going pretty well in rwanda and DRC

[@97Corvi]

My .... Head...... Huuuuuuuuuuuuuurts !!!!!!!!!

[@bbenjoe]

From Europe it's hard to grasp this. On the map this would be like Italy and San Marino going to war agasint each other.

[@mitchmazamez1989]

It’s hard to grasp precisely because it’s untrue. In reality it’s like Italy trying to push part of its population into san marino with ridiculous claims that they aren’t Italian. Yet the land they are being cleansed off has been their property and residence long BEFORE Italy EVER EXISTED as a country. Then when they resist such daylight robbery, Italy regime screams that it’s not them resisting but rather san marino doing it. A boldfaced lie sometimes repeated by lazy or malicious media with zero verification on the ground.

[@alanir6802]

I will say this millions of times, Congo will always have ghost presidents

[@righthandstep5]

Oh no. Not again.

[@AllanMasiga-cg9qq]

Uganda's presence in the DRC is limited to only the Ituri region. UPDF and FARDC forces are jointly fighting the Ugandan ADF rebels. M23 doesn't operate from Uganda's soil militarily. DRC would have every right to protest this and even go to war with Uganda! So many of these falsehoods out there only work to bring more chaos to the DRC. Just, how would Uganda successfully be able to work with both M23 rebels and the DRC govt ????

[@tealsquare]

The UN report implicated Uganda though

[@Fujitora-ve5dz]

Multiple reports say otherwise

[@NkubaShyerezo]

@@tealsquarethe UN reports are biased

[@mansur8451]

Uganda is an ally of Rwanda and yes they can help indirectly by tying up Congo's army in the north while Rwanda backs up the M23.

[@user-ci4hi2ui2k]

ADF Is an islamist forces wich Is indipendent from Uganda goverment and the m23 and the tutsi militia

[@oker1111]

Please make a video on Sudan

[@jasongrundy1717]

Yeah, but how can we blame this on Westerners and/or oil?

[@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π]

Colonialism and mining not oil

[@clashkingking6193]

@@Μ.Ζ-ρ4πthose days are far gone

[@Toonrick12]

​@@Μ.Ζ-ρ4πSame thing.

[@davidjennings2179]

Not just western countries - everyone more developed is taking advantage. Russia, china, India, all chipping in on the great example set by their western predecessors in how to manipulate the best profit out of African countries.

[@EuropeanEmpireEU]

They will somehow find a way to blame white people again. Africas greatest invention is making people believe it’s the white mans fault.

[@peao010109]

It is ironic, but people tend to learn their lessons best when their fellow men die or suffer terribly. That is what pushes a collective towards improvement, and it seems like congo and rwanda needs a fat dose of that. This is not a quick process, it might take decades, in some cases centuries.

[@bigbootros4362]

Oh my poor Congo 💔🇨🇩

[@alphacentauri7468]

Wait , is Burandi the poorest country in the known universe ? They still can go on wars.. something wrong with these countries 😮

[@jeanjauresndemeye7620]

yeah they were promised minerals by the congolese government if they can defeat the m23.

[@alphacentauri7468]

@@jeanjauresndemeye7620 promised enough “blood” money to buy more weapons… why they are a country at first .. they can all of them be one country so no region wars , oh wait : ethnic wars in the menus too ..

[@antoniojosemartinezsalas6463]

Marty McFly: "Hey, I've seen this before. It's a classic"

[@buglerplayz7497]

Will they recruit the migrants sent by the torries to help Rwanda

[@The-Heart-Will-Testify]

War is about to break out in west Africa, central Africa, east and north. I feel sorry for the children. Stop the war and come to the tables. We have enough land and resources, why fight?

[@marvinkarenzi7462]

Starting the video by calling it the "Rwandan Genocide" tells me all I need to know about this video. For your information, it is the "Genocide against the Tutsi".

[@imvanotv106]

Tutsi extremist!

[@Yefro72]

Hutu genocide of rwanda from 1990 to present day by the tutsi government of rwanda.

[@theawesomeman9821]

This is like David versus Goliath

[@NoOne-ix7dg]

Weren't these two countries going to unite in East African Federation?

[@mansur8451]

Lol no. African unity is something that idealistic folk talk about but it just don't seem like happening. East, West and Central Africa are gonna see many bloody conflicts like this spring up.

[@joke_d]

They can barely hold their own countries together, EAF is just a fantasy.

[@jax2433]

EAF is probably the best thing for these nations because Europeans moved in, created these borders, killed a ton of people, destroyed generations, then dipped.

[@eldios831]

Easier said than done

[@JcoleMc]

Yes but not in the way you think

[@natedcarr6148]

I hope for peace in the Congo, but everyone seems intent on killing one another. So I don't know.

[@tealsquare]

No peace in the Great Lakes region as long as Museveni and Kagame still breathe

[@tbando2253]

Silly Bantu

[@Junje-ri9jo]

​@@tbando2253⚪️🗑

[@windoak2113]

Hes not wrong in the slightest though.​@tbando2253 and why the bantu? Weirdo.

[@villz1268]

@@tbando2253😂😂

[@EA-dweller]

Was there peace under Idi Amin and Mobutu?

[@alejandroarroyo5124]

Ah, shit. Here we go again.

[@GAZAMAN93X]

RIP Patrice Lumumba

[@josephkalusokoma1378]

So sad God heal africa

[@yellow01umrella]

Somehow this will be blamed on Leopold II of Belgium I guess.

[@NicolasTheondine]

Of course, Africans are innocent. For ever.

[@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π]

Yes because he absolutely destroyed the Congolese economy and stoped the already di industrialized congo from industrializing. Also he made a huge country with ethnic groups wgo didn't get along.

[@yellow01umrella]

@@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π Yeah when africans are fighting each other in 200 years it will be again his fault.

[@yellow01umrella]

@@Μ.Ζ-ρ4π Remind me in 100 years when they are still poor and and war.

[@ChristiaanHW]

they will keep blaming Europe until the sun stops shining. it's way easier to blame everyone else than put in the work to make your surroundings better.

[@Nene..93]

What makes me sad is that its Congo's neighbors that are responsible for this crisis since the 90s.

[@elijahsokoni7997]

Which neighbours?

[@bwenge]

Congo leaders have been responsible since the death of Lumumba!!

[@JosuéBolamu]

​@@elijahsokoni7997 Rwanda, Ouganda and Burundi

[@rutonde]

Congo has been threatening rwanda’s tranquility since 1960. “In *October 1960,* Congolese soldiers positioned themselves at the border, and fired sporadically towards *Rwanda.* The belgian paratroopers were ordered to shoot back only if the Congolese crossed the border, or if their shots made victims on *the Rwandan side.* Insecurity became permanent in Bukavu when the Lumumbists took control of the city in *December 1960,* under the direction of kashamura. The Belgians were taken hostage, and some were even s hot ded. Soldiers of *the Congolese National Army,* who had switched to the Lumumbist side, attacked on December 16th 1960 the UN troops in Bukavu, notably mistaking an Austrian UN medical team for disguised Flemish paratroopers. Realizing that the Austrians can be shot at any moment, MONUC soldiers from Nigeria are sent directly to free them. After having evacuated the Austrian team *to Rwanda* with many wounded, the Nigerians, in turn surrounded, call for reinforcement. The Belgian authorities are hesitant to give it to them, fearing that the incident will *spill over to Rwanda* and cause widespread looting there since the Bukavu region has been without flour for a week. The Belgian paratroopers, who were sent the next day as reinforcements to Bukavu, remained on the Rwandan side of the border, in Cyangugu. The conflict is finally resolved by conciliation between Congolese soldiers and UN troops, but the toll is heavy with around sixty ded, including a Nigerian soldier from MONUC. At the same time, other peacekeepers are also surrounded in Goma by Lumumbist Congolese soldiers. Again, the Belgian authorities fear that this is the starting point for a Congolese *at tack on Rwanda.* Tshomba, a former Kivu minister who has taken *ray fuge in Rwanda,* asks Harroy's replacement (Harroy is then in Belgium on official business) to authorize Mobutu *to at tack the Lumumbists in Bukavu from Rwanda.* Negotiations take place between Leopoldville, Brussels and Bujumbura to transport a detachment of Congolese paratroopers by air via Bujumbura airport, then by road. With the agreement of the government in Brussels, the Congolese paratroopers are transported from Bujumbura to the Congolese border in twelve trucks, led by Belgian soldiers dressed in civilian clothes, and followed at a certain distance by a platoon of other Belgian paratroopers in charge of collecting them in case of failure. When requested, the commander of the Belgian Metropolitan Forces in Rwanda and Burundi refused to lend machine kuns and more tars to Mobutu soldiers. Was the operation under the direct command of Belgian officers, as an American source claimed? In any case, Colonel Logiest and Colonel Laurent, commander of the Belgian airborne battalion, are watching the troop movement from the bottom of the Rusizi valley. The Belgian chief of the secret police, Major tulpin, who is by their side, wrote shortly before a letter to vanderstraeten [the Belgian chief of staff], in which he declared that he regretted not being able to participate in the operation "to send some well-known Lumumbists to heill. Because I will never have inner peace until I have avenged the honor of the wyves of comrades who were ray ped when Lumumba was in charge.” The adventure quickly turned very bad, however. Congolese paratroopers who aren’t immediately kyl led quickly *retreat to Rwanda.* According to the MONUC report, Lumumbist members of the Congolese National Army were warned of the imminent operation by Mobutu’s leaflets, which he had dropped the day before from airplanes to demand the surrender of the rebels. Thus warned, the "rebels" had time to prepare their response. As for the Nigerian peacekeepers, they had apparently been ordered not to join the battle. While Mobutu's soldiers disband *towards the Rwandan border,* some heavy fire is directed towards logiest, laurent and tulpin [all of them belgian officers]. They have been observing the operation from the bottom of the Rusizi valley in the company of a fourth Belgian officer, as well as a Belgian non-commissioned officer of the Rwandan Territorial Guard, and two belgian ci vilians: Regional governor Kirsch, and the agronomist Renaud. The group, which is lying flat on the ground, is without real protection despite the fog. Agronomist Renaud and his Rwandan assistant are kyl led instantly, while Kirsch and Tulpin are in jured. Logiest and his other companions were not freed from this difficult position until three hours later by a platoon of belgian paratroopers who came by jeep, launching smoke grenades and directing ma chine kun fyre towards the Congo. The rescued Mobutist soldiers are disarmed and returned with the wounded to Bujumbura, and then repatriated by airplane to Luluabourg in the Congo.

[@simonmuange2163]

Perspective from a Congolese, Congo is struggling because of a system that was installed in 1885 during the CONGO CONFERENCE aka THE BERLIN CONFERENCE. Congo was formed for plundering and exploitation and it continues today by proxies like Rwanda and Uganda. Congo has 3 enemies, each enemy collaborate with each other to keep Congo in the state it’s in. The first enemy is the Anglo Saxon leader and politician, multinational corporations, and European Unions. Mainly any country that set on the table during the Congo conference in 1884. The second enemy is, regional and neighboring countries. Rwanda and Uganda, this includes Kagame and musuveni government (not the people) who are the poster child of Congo conflict. You can also include Kenya and South Africa. The third enemy of Congo is, the Congolese government ruling elites, political, cultural, and religious elites plays a role in keeping Congo the way it is. This even includes the opposition parties, they all have some kind of connection with the first or second enemy of Congo and take order from them. Another war that Congo is suffering from is the war of communication and narrative. The western media portray the conflict in Congo as a minority group called the Tutsi defected from the military because the government didn’t respect their agreement and people in Congo mistreat them. The reality is, Congo has 450 tribe and ethnic group, everybody is a minority, there’s no majority ethnic group in Congo. The second thing is there’s no ethnic group in Congo called the Tutsi, every ethnic and tribe in Congo is well documented and recognized based on their land and languages. The Tutsi speak Kinyarwanda and until today they’re fighting for land, while in Congo, there’s no tribe or ethnic group that’s fighting the government for land. (There’s land dispute, among tribes, but no one is taking arm in Congo) The M23 is not a Congolese rebellion, it’s a military branch of Rwanda in Congo, something that the western media failed to cover. Another form of war imposed on us is, economic warfare. This includes the plundering and exploitation of Congo resources from many foreign countries and companies.

[@Justanotherviewer..-ls4fj]

Bravo my guy tell them!! tell them!!

[@tobiasschoof271]

Isnt Tribalisme on of the biggest issue Problem in Africa. Besides uncontrolled childbirth in some African nations and curroption. I mean a country with 450 tribes is insane. Well a démocratic system can never work with sooo much different opinion,languages and cultures . You need a majorité. Splitt up the kogno in smaller indépend nations. Maybe helps.

[@gautheuil6210]

Europe and the US together represent about 10% of Congo's export, how exactly does the big bad west plunder you when they get barely anything at all from you? Sounds to me like Africa will stay a shithole for quite some time if africans prefer blaming others over developping their economy.

[@EstaJeanette-nk7fj]

​@@tobiasschoof271 countries in Asia not just Africa have hundreds of tribe. Have you ever heard of Papua new guinea. Also 99 percent of the time Congolese tribes get along just fine

[@tru7hhimself]

@@tobiasschoof271 it works in other countries like china, india, brazil or russia. "chinese" or "indian" are terms that are just like "european", not like "norse" or "greek". even a small country like laos (with less than 8 mio. people) functions fine as one country with 160 officially recognised ethnic groups. the real reason is that the congo as a country has been sabotaged from the beginning by the west. it begins with borders drawn by colonial powers, then moved on to the u.s. and the u.k. quickly deposing of the first democratically elected leader because he was too left wing and wanted to curb the exploitation of natural resources by western companies and that same thing continues today. profits and cheap resources come first, people and peace don't matter.

[@jason4275]

I'm just glad no one has nukes in this conflict.

[@IbnShahid]

I used to think Rwanda’s Paul Kagame was a hero. Turns out he’s another murderous villain. Don’t take it from me, read the book “Do not Disturb: the story of a political murder and an African regime gone bad” by Michela Wrong.

[@ManziBruce-m5g]

And you believe someone whose name is wrong 💀

[@kagabopaul3126]

😂😂 Funny how one person lie you and take his lies 😂😂 keep dealing with false propaganda KAGAME WILL ALWAYS BE A HERO

[@gojb1998]

Rwanda's aims, and actions, are perfectly legitimate: The FLDR consists of Hutu extremists (and young new recruits who are taught the same ideology) who, if they had enough military power, would enter Rwanda with the intention of continuing the actions of 1994. The Rwandan government has every right to stop the FLDR by indirectly supporting M23, to prevent further genocide in Rwanda.

[@arjunghanekar6140]

Interesting cool to know

[@Fujitora-ve5dz]

Sure but why can they not stop them at their border? There are few reports with actual evidence showing the DRC is working with FDLR and the Congolese government isn’t chasing men into Rwanda to hunt down M23. If their goal is to also prevent genocide why is it they are also extracting material Remember I’m not making stuff up here, there’s the UN report with videos and images evidence

[@Yefro72]

Lies lies lies and more lies .

[@binancerwanda]

You are right sir

[@mareksicinski3726]

6:36 that is a de facto state actor

[@swiftsabre28]

Safe country btw

[@moonshot9056]

We are no longer going to be a safe country soon, We'll have to send them out of Europe to be safe.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Heart of Darkness for 150 years...

[@platinumofthesouth9557]

I support Rwanda because Congo is way too unstable and those mines are being wasted. Rwanda's access to these mines will be beneficial to its economy!

[@iranzi-t2d]

This guy genius

[@samuelatenda1100]

nit's not rwandan use your own minerals instead of stealing

[@samuelatenda1100]

DRC can waiste its minerals like they want cuz it's theirs

[@christianmpassi3450]

A thief accessing mines that do not belong to him and using proxy rebels. Your logic is so marvelous indeed

[@FictionHubZA]

Give your house and assets to a company so they can make good use of them. According to your thinking.

[@allu717]

3:52 I think the graphic meant to say x1000 instead of x100

[@miscellaneoussarnian5282]

Belgium: Can you stop being in conflict. FOR 5 SECONDS!?!!?!?!?!!!!!?!! DRC: You were the one who made me like this, dad!!!!

[@Burito-tj5ry]

how long will Belgium be responsible for what is happening in the Congo?

[@darthkek1953]

Black-on-black African genocide goes back to the era of Homo Erectus and Homo Habitus.

[@yofedstyhrega4594]

​@@Burito-tj5ry For real im not even European and I'm looking at this shit like it's your own leaders stop shifting blame

[@TheAtozed]

The Congolese leadership is responsible not Belgium, that may have been true immediately after independence but not now.

[@riojose5745]

@@Burito-tj5ry for its entire existence .. colonial bastards legacy is so bad it can never be solved .. bec they drew lines accross map and took the land .. w/o any idea of cultural ties existed for centuries

[@chrisnewhard5863]

Informative video!

[@IMANISMO]

Nobody can deny that there is Genocide Ideology against Innocent Tutsis Civilian in Both Congo and Burundi These two Countries need to be taught a heavy lesson wether Their Masters ( The West ) Support them or not

[@azleadam9239]

this conflict already complicate for me to keep up. is it a fight between 2 side or 3 ?

[@NickBoroto]

Its a war imposed to Congolese in order to steal their minerals

[@mitchmazamez1989]

UN Press Statement - November 30, 2022 The UN is “deeply concerned about ongoing inter communal violence in Western DRC between the Suku, Mbala, Yansi, Songe, Luba, Kongo, Yaka and Teke ethnic communities. Several people have been injured and killed, numerous homes looted and burned and the FARDC have been attacked.”

[@mitchmazamez1989]

*_“Mass-graves_*_ found of at least 535 killed during ‘organized and planned’ attacks in _*_western_*_ DR Congo”_ (UN News 1/30/19)

[@mitchmazamez1989]

_”UN peacekeepers discover _*_mass graves_*_ in _*_Ituri_*_ province”_ (here on y-tube, 1/20/23).

[@mitchmazamez1989]

_“Nearly 20 people were shot dead in the early hours of Monday, June 26 by militiamen commonly known as Mobondo, in the territory of Kwamouth _*_[Western_*_ side of the Congo].”_ (Okapi, the UN radio station in the Congo, on 06/27/2023)

[@uplink-on-yt]

Imagine if the Conservative plan to ship asylum seekers to Rwanda had worked: 1. Send refugees to Rwanda 2. Rwanda goes to war 3. Refugees from Rwanda come to the UK Sysyphus would be all like "Which part of my punishment confuses you that makes you want to do it too?"

[@dingus6317]

@atlas5653Exactly, there are closer countries to Rawanda for them to flee to. Why does he assume they would go to the UK?

[@kagabopaul3126]

😂😂 my friend Rwanda had one war on it's soil no more war Rwanda is small there are plenty areas to fight in not in Rwanda to disturb Rwandan population

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

I should note Burundi was arguably responsible for setting off this whole chain of events in the first place. After independance they kept their Tutsi Monarchy for a while(whilst Rwanda was trying to get a ethnically open democracy started up), and in 1971 following an attempted uprising around 250 thousand educated Hutu were killed and another couple hundred thousand either imprisoned or driven away in order to protect the monarchy. This genocide is known as the Ikiza. This in turn lead to hundreds of thousands of young Hutu who had been driven from their homes and lost family members in Burundi to the Tutsi Monarchy fleeing to Rwanda, and collapsing the government there as they refused to cooperate with Tutsi's. Many of the Hutu Refugees or their children would be the ones leading the Rwandan Genocide 20 years later.

[@Hession0Drasha]

Bros trying to sound tough, choose to name themselves after a motorway 😅

[@tealsquare]

Your world view must be very narrow

[@Hession0Drasha]

@@tealsquare it's at least 4 lanes wide

[@NkubaShyerezo]

They full name is ARC( Armeé Revolutionaire Congolais) originally were CNDP( Congress National Defense of People) They signed agreements with the Congolese government in 2009 March 23( the name M23 comes from those agreements that were signed on March 23) which the Congolese government didn’t respect and started to kill one by one till they Rebelled again and this time it looks like they are stronger than ever. For the past two years they have been taking territories swiping off Congolese army out of the way easily) They are well combat experience that’s for sure and with Rwanda support those rebels are unstoppable neither SADEC or the useless Monisco are able to stop them. However they seek peace. The Congolese government is just incompetent they can end that war in a day with just a pen. Because militarily The Congolese army nor any other army that is in Congo can defeat the M23s at all.

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

@@Hession0Drashathe scale sounds just about right👌🏾

[@A-Grat-A]

You are stupid, sir.

[@EbM0725]

At this point if War is the way out to peace in Congo let it be!

[@That_OneGuy46]

I have missed the part of why they are doing this. Seriously, what do either of these countries have to gain 😑I'd call for the UN to do something about this but they can't do jack and wouldn't if they could🙄 I'm so sick of wars, tf is wrong with the people who are starting these wars

[@andrzejnadgirl2029]

Rwanda secures Congo resources for themselves, those resources are later on sold to Europe as well.

[@thehuman2cs715]

They're mostly fighting over access to mines that sell materials like cobalt

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

Good question, as long as type on my iPhone with components made from Tantalum. So sick of wars.

[@That_OneGuy46]

@@andrzejnadgirl2029 ty

[@That_OneGuy46]

@@thehuman2cs715 ty