TMM Do You Recommend Kazuya For Beginners?

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[@nehemiahdick3714]

Regardless Kazuya is hard or not hard for beginners, I love playing Kazuya.

[@basedpan5281]

Same bro kazuya is the main reason I love tekken

[@CJ-cf6kv]

Me too

[@AhsanWasim]

I just got good with kazuya hellsweep

[@JungleBadMan]

Doriya

[@turabnaveed9765]

As hard and demanding kazuya is a character ... Nothing beats the feeling of whiff punishing with electrics and sidestep electric DORYA to all kazuya grinders out there ⚡⚡

[@EdgyEmoLoliconBoy]

Man I personally started with Jin because I thought to myself he looks cool in tekken 5... and so i started spamming electrics to look and feel cool

[@TKMacsta]

Same

[@BEER-OTFG]

Accelerator is it from range 5 though? if so tendo approves

[@parikshit28]

Cool

[@shutupisaac4977]

Tekken 4 with me but same story lol...except I couldn’t do electrics until Tekken 7 😭💀

[@aminaV_]

Still today I don't even know how to do the EWGF

[@kuntahouen3835]

I just started playing T7 and I really like Kazuya. I feel like I am learning way faster. The fact that he really only has 10 moves is less intimidating as a noob and lets me focus on actual game plans and reading the opponent.

[@CallousCyclone]

Sheer determination was my experience. No understanding of frames etc when I picked him up in TTT2 since childhood T3. Win rate was around 32% iirc. ALOT of asswhoopins. But. When it clicks and you engage brain, the feeling and reward for your efforts is like the gift that keeps on giving. Nothing really to add, great analogy and breakdown. 1st thing said defo the most important thing to consider. "How serious are you about Tekken?" - cuts straight to the meat of the subject 👌

[@disruptor6550]

Just noticed that I forgot to reply to your old comment a few weeks ago when I asked you how you were doing and you replied. Sorry bud! I've not been too great, some personal problems but life goes on! Otherwise I'm ok. From what I know I'm healthy at least haha. And to your comment, I 100% agree. I personally picked up Steve as my first character (I used others in Tekkens before he got introduced obviously, but Steve was the first serious one) and I didn't even know he was one of the hardest characters in the game. It's no surprise that him and Kaz have amongst the lowest win rates online, because as a beginner and intermediate they are just hard as fuck to play, as TMM explained pretty well. I got my ass whopped a LOT (and still do) but due to Steve being my first, it made me learn proper Tekken. There was no easy mode with him. Just like Kazuya Steve works a lot with timing, so knowing the matchups is vital for success, since you need to know when and where to place your counter hits. But I love the challenge and never gave up. I fell many, many times, but always got up and improved. And I don't regret picking up Steve for a second. It is really a matter of how serious you want to get into Tekken, or how much effort you plan on putting into it. If you are ready to work your ass off, then Steve, Kazuya, Bryan are excellent picks. It feels very rewarding when your hard training finally pays off and you see some results. But if you want instant gratification, then those are not for you.

[@CallousCyclone]

@@disruptor6550 Hey Nx Worries! Sorry to hear you've been thrown a few curveballs lately chief. Glad to hear your still grinding away at the o'l wheel of life amidst all the negative stuff going on in the world tho. Was gonna say 'Samsara' but we don't want people taking you for a filthy u4 panic mashing DVJ 😉 *Very aptly named move when you look into after losing a match to a high/low crush from it* 👍 Hat off for the Steve, took me a LONG time to appreciate him. My mate knows only too well I was probably more toxic than I'd like to admit in the matchup, needed ALOT patience than I gave credit for 😅 Lots of CHs were ate but he's now one of my favourite matches as most of his useful tools are -13 and -14 so great for FC pewgfs and otherwise, learning guard animations and timings. *holds hands up* Learning Bryan still has me scared. That feeling of when you find someone who almost never fails the tech catch, (whether you delay it or not) Ooft! Luckily I have a multi-char sparring buddy who picks up even Nina's butterfly cancels in just a few days and rarely drops them. It feels cheap to vs someone with that level of consistency but its one of those thing's where I dont think you can truly appreciate til you try it for yourself. I used to think it was a cheap wallcarry gimmick but now its the same with seeing b2 Lee combos, really just left in awe at the execution. So many characters have advanced levels that you can't 'just pick up' without having some grit in you to persevere. It really is testament to how diverse the roster is. Characters that are played in completely unique fashions while still having flexibility. Recently been learning Kuni from Fergus' vids and it's amazing how much love they put into animating a character that never even made the cut for T7. Such a fun and fluid character tho I think she's lacking alot of portable moves that can animate the Corkscrew so will probably need a hefty redesign to bring her up to date - time will tell.

[@CallousCyclone]

@@malk2good indeed. I was meaning with regard to playing Tekken when you were barely into double digits as a kid (prior to the internet) VS rediscovering the game 15 or so years later and learning how to play the game and using online content like TMM to get up to speed. While growing up we used a TV show in the UK called 'Gamesville' - with a segment called 'Ask the games guru' (was for old style cheat codes and stuff like that etc.). I used to watch hoping someone wrote in asking just the hell '⭐' meant. It was always in the manuals of the PS1 Tekkens but it never explained what it meant... Anywhere. Was the first thing the 20 yr old me looked up when I learnt Tekken had survived all these years I'd been away. Truly a face slap moment but I was just a kid and to me it was a hidden move. I'd still never have learnt unless the internet was a thing. Imagine loving Kazuya and never knowing how to EWGF or HS 😅👍 But from total bambi to where I am now a few years later. Plenty of online humility along the way ofc but once you find the value in that, your pretty much there mentally to stick it with your chosen character whoever you pick and whatever your skill lvl.

[@heavenlyweather117]

Im a kaz player and i relate so much to this

[@disruptor6550]

@@CallousCyclone You absolutely nailed it there mate. As you mentioned, things like Nina's butterfly cancels/combos, Lee's b2, etc (insert any similar stuff here)... you just tend to not appreciate those that much, until you eventually try it yourself. It's really easy to label someone or something as gimmicky or cheap if you only look at it from the outside. But many things that look easy, and often piss you off online, gain your respect after you try them out yourself. I'm not a Nina player (never was, and never will be) but I was curious about those fancy combos of hers and I couldn't pull them off for the life of me, even after some practice (I mean, I managed to pull them off, but the success rate was ridiculously low). Maybe it's because my execution is far from insane in general; it's probably average, but I'm definitely not terrible and not the only one who just can't pick those things up in an instant. After trying things like these out, I appreciate and respect them whenever I see people pull it off against me online or during matches I watch, because I know that they are by far not as easy at they seem to be. I wish more people had such a mindset and went out of their comfort zone to try these things out instead of judging them without even having a single minute of experience with it. I'm really tired of people calling characters like Steve or Kazuya easy, cheap, braindead, when they haven't even played them for a minute. Because if they did, they would take those words back easily. They probably lost to them online and now think they know the character. People just need to get out of their shells and discover the variety of the whole roster. Instead of being toxic, we need to learn to appreciate and respect each other, in order to create the best possible fighting game community ever :)

[@pungaaa]

Imagine playing a character with a steep learning curve LMAO This post was made by yoshi main gang

[@TayloredRedWing]

Def easier to play against Kazuya than Yoshi so in that way Yoshi is a lot easier. Straight Lab Character

[@TimeTripper79]

Hissatsu!

[@theparkers9656]

Difficulty Yoshi > kazuya

[@KeenanRuffinEl]

@@TayloredRedWing yoshi has the worst frames in the game.

[@john-tobeymaguirecena]

Kazuya was my first character that I actually learned inside & out. So I owned & played every tekken since Tekken 2. However I didn’t know the depths of the game until the 6th installment. From tekken 2 to 5, I was younger & didn’t even know about juggling & combos outside of the 10 hit combo. I knew the concept of punishing but didn’t know the term for it, I just simply knew how to block & attack back lol. But Tekken 6 was a year that I was a bit older & actually sat down & learned the command list. They had the sample combos at the bottom of the list of course & that was back when you couldn’t see the inputs for the sample juggles so you had to know the moves by memory. Tekken 6 also started the juggle off the ground animation which is when combos really started to get insane. I picked Kazuya because I have memories going back as far as I can remember, as being a little kid & always losing to a guy with black hair, a red eye, lightning kicks, & a spinning lightning uppercut. So jump years later when I sat down & learned Kazuya, I realized that Kazuya was the character I have strong strong memories of. (My memories are also mixed with Jin from tekken 3 since he resembles kazuya a lot & literally still does the Mishima-style karate.) & MainMan I’ve been watching you since Tekken 6 man. Lol. I wanted to get better at kazuya & KZbin was already going strong at the time so I looked into it & there I found you. Teaching me about EWGF. Now we’re both fathers... playing tekken still to this day👌🏼💯🔥

[@zema7777]

"Everyone thinks its easy but no one spends time with the character." You talking about Eliza?

[@bisquits8175]

Im new to this comunity, why eliza keep getting bullied

[@revenant375]

@@bisquits8175 Eliza is a very hard to play character that requires a lot of execution that even if you master she is one of the weakest characters in the game. That's the Eliza story basically. Which is sad since I love that character so much.

[@emanuelegrooren8418]

Eliza is a good character, is not easy and this makes her funny to play, l still have hard time to do her combos, only because 2D stuff are very technical, but in tekken revolution for example, she was super easy to play.

[@TheLenny655]

He's the easiest mishima to start with to get a good fundamental foundation of how the game works. But will get extremely harder the further you excell. Whereas Devil Jin it gets easier once your execution and fundamental are solid. Heihachi is just all round hard due to no great lows to enforce mixups and rely mainly on frame pressure traps.

[@justaotter2085]

I think heihachi is best beginner Mishima because well good no of ch launchers best pokes of any Mishima a 12 frame panic move (same with Jin ) stance utility that isn't demanding as b3 f 1 microdash with Jin and I believe Jin is good for same reason to start Kazuya is definitely better once you have hang of Mishima playstyle and honestly the king of punishment especially the devil adds flaiz to kazuya

[@KoufalKoufax]

@@justaotter2085 i agree with you

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

I think Hei's lows are good low level.

[@marcusmuntean]

Kazuya is hard to be good with, but damn he sure is fun to play with though.

[@IKI-KIKI]

Nice to hear Shaheen being recommended, he’s definitely a good character to learn the game with. You can focus on the matchup and not on a gigantic movelist. Having a fast slide takes some execution as well if you’re in to that.

[@BiggestChungus21]

Jin is the best character to learn the game with. He requires some execution so if you're serious about him spend a day or 3 to master the electric, kbdc, and learn some combos and spend another half day watching pros how they play the character. Jin is great for newbies who really are determined to learn because he has all the tools needed

[@karlobicierro7081]

So true unlike kazuya he has good pokes which is a basic tool to master, whilst having pseudo electric for heavy punishment. Basically a whole package. Oh yeah and a stance for mixups as well

[@-calitros-6792]

Jin just has that smoothness in his gameplay that no other Mishima can match. Despite having a slightly worse electric, he’s the full package

[@subrezon]

I recently added Kazuya to my roster, which consisted of Jin and Eddy. Now I feel like Kazuya is basically Jin-supercut, and feels extremely simple to me. With Kazuya you use like 10 moves, while in order to get results with Jin you pretty much have to utilize ~25 highly situational moves. I enjoy Kazuya a lot, but he is far from Jin in terms of being hard to get into. But at the same time, you can only win with Kazuya by playing the correct way, while Jin has some bullshit you can cheese people with to some degree, but it tops out much sooner than on bullshit-focused characters, and then you have to start playing correctly.

[@Ty1350]

I agree that Jin seems harder at first, I think Kazuya can be a bit harder for matches against people who know what they’re doing because they know how limited his moveset is and plan accordingly. You have to think more about what move to use with Jin but the timing is a lot more forgiving

[@flurple6921]

tmm's explanations are actually so well done, i've learned tekken (especially kazuya) just by watching him often

[@BabyBoyJr.]

Kazuya is a very technical character. Very hard to master. Its true what TMM said, if you Lab Kazuya, you don't lab him, you lab the opponent/dummy that you will chose to practice. Frame data is extremely important to Kazuya because he needs to maximize whiff and block punishes. Once you get good at Kazuya, he for me is the most satisfying and rewarding character in the game.

[@HumbleHurricane]

Awesome video my brother and picture perfect breakdown of Kazuya, Tekken overall, Time demands, Pros and Cons, thought and training process etc I love the shout out to Bryan as well for being so difficult to master. That's MY guy and has always been my Secondary character. The passion for something can completely over shadow the hardship in many cases. I never saw Bryan as difficult to learn for years, but as people who asked me for advice that were losing started to approach me, I started to understand views I never thought about. While it felt natural for me to pick him up, actually explaining his game plan in comparison to other characters made me realize how hard he had it. Me loving him and enjoying him so much made me not feel the struggle at all. However, the more you understand, the easier it is to see the struggle haha. Makes me love em even more though because it makes you respect great Bryan players for the work they had to put in. Great video once again my man. Keep up the great work.

[@karlobicierro7081]

"Kazuya is one of the most misunderstood character in forums" *SAD DORYA NOISES :((

[@cis4cookies]

the best character ever (for me though)

[@ShaunDelier]

Not the best, but one of the greatest.

[@nicolo7789]

@@vinchester047 he clearly put (for me though)..

[@miiboi238]

Thanks alot MainMan you've given me alot to think about myself as a Tekken player

[@tyseanisaac4568]

I know your not gonna see this but thank you for the truthful insight and being blunt I won't rage or quit anymore and ive found my patients im striving to be like you with kazuya

[@jojoscar6368]

I have played law my whole life and when my brother and I battled, he always had a significant lead. I am pretty good with law, but I decided to switch things up a bit. I changed to Kazuya for 2 days and something clicked. He is my new main for now and I love him. I battled my brother today, and won for the first time. I will definitely be watching tmm’s Kazuya tutorial vids more now!! TMM, if you see this, thank you for being a huge inspiration to me, and everyone else here!! Keep doing what you are doing!! :)

[@SonataNoKami]

You still winning tho?

[@jojoscar6368]

@@SonataNoKami little update lmao. I played Kazuya for a little while (around 3-4 months). Was doing well until I saw a video of heihachi gameplay and was instantly hooked. I still use the old bastard to this day and I reached raijin with him now. My brother stands no chance 👌👌

[@SonataNoKami]

@@jojoscar6368 ay nice, you don’t really see too many good iron grandpas

[@jojoscar6368]

@@SonataNoKami haha yeah they get rarer the higher you go!

[@rtsa4633]

This was my exact path lmao. I played Law then played Kazuya and something just clicked. It gets painful though but forces me to think about fundamentals and match ups.

[@SSAS939]

I think every beginner should give Jin a try His tools are very encouraging at beginner level ~Safe rage art that no one ducks in beginner ~Rage drive that does more damage than his rage art(basically) ~B 2,1 does wonders at beginner level ~Bread and butter is easy and does decent damage (can be done from majority of launchers) ~Very compatible with intermediate and higher level of play so you don't have to change character ~Permenant Character ~Up back 3 panic move ~Combo potential so you'll not get bored of doing same combo over and over not to mention stylish ~Electric is an option but not a necessity ~general poking is solid ~Launching Hell Sweep ~ He is the protagonist for god sake So yeah give him a try

[@carljohnson4285]

I basically RE-LEARNED Tekken from you bro. Great vids

[@hands-ongaming7180]

The Jin way

[@ShaunDelier]

I feel proud picking up Kazuya as my main.

[@thenube23]

I main garen in league and just switched to TEKKEN and I find kazuya is a lot like garen in the fact that he does a lot of damage but doesn’t have a lot of tools for outplay so you need to just be better at the match up and I love it. So much fun, every win is just you countering

[@nicholasperry1334]

Thanks for the vid bro. Huge kazuya fan and the vid did clear some things for me however I will continue. Managed to grab a brawler rank which as a casual is awesome for confidence. Keep up the good work

[@Wonduhs]

I don’t mind the difficulty of Kazuya, it is frustrating how bad his b1,2 can be against some characters when trying to punish though. I wish it had more consistency like dvj or kings version of b1,2

[@king_killshot2322]

Could not agree more. It's inconsistent af. Also his b2,1 randomly drops for no reason and it's annoying af

[@Pinoquai7064]

Thank you I've started with Kazuya because at first he was the first than I meet in 1996 when I had the first Tekken on PS1. I've played him in these years of explore, after came the two and I could play him as secret boss, he were cool but I think I was for the Tekken two a versatile player, I 've enjoyed most of all the carachters in the second opus. After came the Three, it was awesome with Jin players, Eddy, Bryan ... but Kaz. wasn't there. That 's most of my memories, my youthness and all the things that goes with it. I've played the four but from this one I've starded to interest for other things. And so I'm back to Tekken 7 maybe 20 years after this, so of course I started to play Kazuya, after more than 1180 wins I'm still Juggernaut , You gave the answer, I have to left him now and using another carachter, the step is difficult to admit but I have to do it and I swear i'll be back to him later. Thanks for what you're doing for the Tekken communauty.

[@SalveASMR]

I love learning fundamentals with Kazuya ☺️

[@SuperNero791]

I started with Akuma and picked up Jin for other matchups, they're both really hard, but I also think they're really fun to play and I've been enjoying the game 7 months in.

[@niccolorughetti7063]

Very motivating, thank you mainman!

[@omni1130]

0:22 Hello me from twitch.

[@MuzzYADam]

I know this might sound weird but I like to play Kaz to chill out, because of his simple gameplan and only having 5 moves. Even more so if you are not worried about ranking up. Also If you want to have the right to shout MASKU then yes go with Kazuya.

[@philipkarovski281]

Same man I'm a Hwo main and he has so many ways to approach a situation and I'm always thinking a lot during a match, and I play Kazuya because his gameplan is very simple and very satisfying to play as well especially when you nail your opponent with a 3x EWGF

[@lifealpha]

True that. I gave up on ranked and living with Kaz on casual. Its less stressful

[@benjimack7681]

@@lifealpha come back to ranked once you are feeling more confident. (hopefully no longer stressing you, which is important) trust me it's worth it. I did the same with AK. Now I have almost 1100 ranked wins.

[@dereban5654]

I think more videos like this would be cool, I'd like to see something like this for Armor King or Devil Jin.

[@Dinorex01]

As a controller player, do i have any hope of ever hitting consistent ewgfs without crazy controller setup shenanigans? I might hear dorya maybe once ever 10 tries

[@bystander5278]

I am really interested into becoming a Kazuya main and this video was really helpful since I used to play a lot of Tekken 5 as a kid mashing buttons and played TT2 very casually as a teenager. I just picked up Tekken 7 thanks to the discount on the PS Store and I am willing to put more effort into learning the game possiblymaining Kazuya. I was just wondering, when people talk about electric and Mishimas and Kazuya having the worst out of them are they simply referring to attacks that incorporate lightning? If so do they have any special properties? Thank you!

[@foresttaylor7850]

I got into Tekken through Kazuya because he was so fun in Smash. Learning to EWGF consistently was super fulfilling

[@doctor_mayooo]

Bro can you eplain how you're doing EWGF in tekken ? I know how to do it in smash but itws impossible in tekken 😂😂

[@foresttaylor7850]

@@doctor_mayooo faster

[@doctor_mayooo]

@@foresttaylor7850 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@sopheakmao5143]

Nothing more satisfying than landing an electric... DORYA! With that said I play with Josie when I wanna boost my confidence 😂

[@BennyOnZrouZ]

Its juday, what re you talking about

[@RaVen-pm6vq]

I first started Tekken 6 and my first character was Devil Jin. It was hard at first, and I got to slowly learn the matchups and how to do his mix-ups gradually. Wave Dash was one of the hardest to master during that time. And beginner me was just spamming df2 or uf4 as launchers. Then I tried Kazuya for one and it was hardest than Devil Jin. The mix-ups of Kazuya was harder to execute considering the frames, and the amount of times you will spend to know the matchups and timings will eventually pay off in the long run.

[@PinkManGuy]

I play Marduk because the lack of panic moves, and the fact that I always give my turn up on block forces me to get better with my movement and blocking skills. Once I get better at execution I plan on switching to Kazuya. This is all great advice, thanks!

[@jeetkundough6224]

Good advice TMM. Timing beats speed.

[@dangerfumes]

Why there is no law or paul with big tournament players? Which player is good to learn tekken from level 1 ?

[@esourteric412]

Bro you know I been grinding that kazyua all 7

[@TheSacredMercenary]

I’ve finally got into yellow ranks after switching to arcade stick. I also think it’s important to add that since some of the harder characters require mastery of execution maybe playing pad will hold you back considerably when playing Mishima characters

[@RobertoGuillermoGOAT]

Yeah playing on stick is a whole lot easier than a controller ans you don't get fat fingered lol

[@shadowsage6253]

True man but sticks cost so mutch for me😔

[@Davidtk2001]

Nah man is just preference tbh stick wont make you better

[@kinghadu9611]

@@Davidtk2001 Hit Box is far superior to any stick

[@genesishandboards]

@@kinghadu9611 it's all preference honestly. Hit box is great for consistent clean inputs, and side steps. But for me I find my movement is 10 times better on stick. Both are great controllers tho 100%

[@johnderekas7242]

My first main in tekken 7(I haven't played any tekken games before) was Kazuya.I actually learned quite a bit of movement from my time maining him due to Mishima playstyle. Now I'm a Jin main and I'm really glad I had mained Kazuya because now I'm pretty good at movement making me playing SOLID with any character I tried. Anyways, what I want to say is that I recommend mishima's to beginners because you'll learn fundamentals quickly but be warned...get ready to lose A LOT.

[@BIGB0SS23]

I used to play very casual Tekken with friends since Tekken 2, i played Paul the whole time. then Tekken 7 came and i really wanted to learn yo play the game and i started with Kaz, never regret it, i started losing all the time but now after all the time i can play a properly Kaz, It helped me to learn other characters too and how the game works. TOTALLY WORTH IT

[@patrick-cw5px]

Would you consider jack-7 a good character to learn tekken and match ups ? Or is he all gimmicks ?

[@Gamegamergamerino]

I like how TMM turns into the angry strict teacher somewhere around 6:30

[@TheSLashera]

What a nice answer TMM. Just today I was thinking what would I answer to a question of what hero is recommended for beginners. Indeed the hardest characters are the greatest if you really want to learn. I am so happy I chose Bryan and Armor King as mains. Just badass characters.

[@shazich7266]

I love ur kazuya playing style that's why my main character game is bryan and kazuya

[@Tyranno136]

I just got tekken 7 a couple days ago. Used to play tekken 4 as a kid and Kazuya and Hwoarang were my favorite. I played a couple ranked matches and went 4-3 with him using the basics I learned from a guide, even if I only understood half of it. He does feel really difficult but I hope to keep getting better

[@mikeg4490]

It was a hard journey. I could of followed everyone's advice and picked Kazumi or Shaheen but I stuck it out. I play 12 characters all because I was able to learn fundamentals, remember which moves were punishable by 112 or twin pistons so that made learning frame data easier. Definitely worth it oppose to paying to win with some of the DLCs we have nowadays

[@deanmoodley7514]

I absolutely love this character strictly for the nostalgia and memories he brings , my brother had a PS1 and I used to beg him to play tekken 3 every day and lose every day, he used to play with Kazuya and I’d play with Jin I would love seeing the electrics and heelsweeps. Fast forward through T4,T5 and T6 ; tekken 7 is where I fell in love with the character again. Although recently I discovered that Devil Jin is basically tekken 3 Jin and I’m trying to addd him to the roster . I will forever love kazuya he teaches you how to play tekken the hard way and I’ll always remember that

[@soulist8224]

3:53 only kazuya? Other hard characters like geese, akuma, mishimas?

[@cpt.zangscarlet1898]

Came from Street Fighter in 2018, no prior Tekken experience but always told myself if I ever tried it I'd play Kazuya. It's now 2020 and I've only played as Kaz until recently. Stayed in Green for a long time, floated in yellow for most of last year, and now I'm finally in orange. Some days I'm really "on" and can even hold my own(or straight up beat) players in red and above, while days that I'm sloppy or compromised has me falling into flowchart/yellow rank habits. It's a constant struggle, but learning this game with Kazuya has been a real joy, because every inch of progress feels earned, tooth and nail. I might not be the best Kazuya at 2 years in, but I'm really satisfied with the progress I've made up til now, especially since I feel like I'm at another plateau that's just waiting to be demolished by some new revelation or bout of training.

[@king_killshot2322]

It's been the exact same experience for me 🥲. Glad to see I'm not the only one like this

[@KoufalKoufax]

I can relate to this

[@Smoothalcoholic]

Been playing kaz for about two games(on and off) he’s all about fundamentals, he’s offensive is easy to anticipate and he has clear weaknesses. 80% of he’s moves are complete garbage but he does have really strong block punishment and juggle damage hidden by behind a huge execution barrier and I frames input.

[@ChiefMIZZY]

I just started trying to learn Kazuya and it’s because of watching you lol. I main Lars tho. He was the only “Mishima that I play” (even tho he isn’t quite exactly a Mishima) but yeah I just don’t like how the Mishima work.. only one I like is jin and he is very difficult to learn, but now I’m on Kazuya and wander if u could coach me. Do I need to pay you or something for u to coach me? Or is it free

[@guidoscialo2681]

Payment required, worth it if you love tekken tho

[@Intellyellthismyoldchannel]

Just pick whoever you want honestly, just have fun and don't give others shit for playing their fav character either.

[@sparfRF]

there is no respect for leroy mains and I will give them shit

[@shinolight3685]

@@sparfRF what character do you main?

[@geezustempest]

Holy shit this video hit me hard I'm 1 year full on Kazuya and you don't know how many times I rage, felt euphoria and the thousand other emotions this character makes you feel I. started taking the game serious with Alisa transition (blue ranks) to Josie (yellow) but then I noticed that I was just mashing my way into ranks instead of learning fundamentals and movement so I've switch to Diablo Jin cause at the time Qudans was my favourite player and mishimas was I dream of mine to play but was scared on how much it requires to play them and have fun from there my defence and knowledge of the game improved vastly but it was really hard (stuck on greens) with 200+ matches but was very proud I was improving slowly but I never had this much fun before and change my perspective completely on how to play tekken, even tho I was losing a lot Ive always had an eye on kazuya because he looked cool af with the smooth ass matrix looking jacket and ofc combos, wavu, pewgf (which I was very good and learned very fast) but there was also something about how hard he was to master and the dedication you needed, but by watching tmm and tournaments I just got trapped and started to play him, even tho I was doing better than when I was playing dj... Wow there's just days were I just want to straight up uninstall the game or even quit forever cause it was a struggle mostly when I was on yellow ranks plus myself being a defensive turtle well he struggle against cheese or string heavy mix ups was deadly but thanks to that he made me push myself and even have more knowledge than ever and now I am at seryu (red ranks) with him with a 879 wins (49.8% ranked win ratio) and still got a lot to improve even now there's times that I feel hopeless because you WILL get on a massive lose streak even against players on which you know exactly how to punish and you know you can totally win but if the execution is not there, your not focused or your defence is lacking Kazuya I not forgiving he will make you suffer but when you do well the feeling its just amazing even tho I still struggle I don't regret maining Kazuya when I feel off I tend to switch and get pretty easy higher ranks with other characters I like because tbh I like playing all the cast (that's al thanks to my good fundamentals learned with mishimas) my goal will always be present on my mind with kazuya and the mishimas that is to one day reach a level on which I could say to myself that I mastered the Mishima play style. (sorry for the essay and grammar)

[@aleifr3967]

Ok

[@beeteemo7943]

I would use kazuya for my beggining experience and watching your kaz vids makes me wanna play kazuya

[@wrasslinburner7904]

Here because I want to get a headstart with his inputs and stuff for smash bros lmao

[@SolidSonicTH]

I started Tekken playing the Mishimas because they were the main characters but over time I went from just playing Mishimas as a personal preference to playing them for real (I would say around the time of Tekken 5, although I had a long way to go to become a serious player in general).

[@prestigesmccartimarpasay7190]

mainman your my inspiration for kaxuya but my first main is king and my inspiration for king is lil majin i just mained king for 3-5 weeks and then i saw your channel and yeh my main changed to kazuya so thanks

[@comi6597]

I started the game with Kazuya and I honestly don't regret it.

[@perfectgodfist]

Great explanations TMM,your knowledge about kazuya is excellent,kazuya is hard to play for beginner if they wanna win.

[@s8bre101]

I find that it’s either someone is really good or really bad with Kaz there’s no in between

[@Yukina_0059]

Ever since I got psp years ago, I got hooked onto tekken 6 that time, I've always really liked playing Kazuya. Just a bit sad my dad had to sell the psp since we weren't really that well off in life that time. But 2yrs ago I got an old Nokia phone that was able to emulate some games so I started learning Kazuya and Jin, I've made a bit of progress with both of them though sadly I'm still nowhere decent enough especially with kaz :')

[@ChisponGroxo]

So true, I picked Kazumi as my second character and I'm still stuck in light blue rank with 150 wins, always about to reach green ranks but I have to face a toxic Hwoarang, Dragonuv, Shaheen or Noctis...

[@abirneji]

I'd say jin and kazuya are the same difficulty, but jin just gives you more of a reward once you cross that barrier also idk if ling and yoshi are good in beginner ranks, they can confuse the enemy but since everyone is just mashing, it's gonna be pretty even the characters who steamroll at the beginning are string characters and power characters

[@2000Doriyas]

Jin being less difficult in lower ranks would come from having strong pokes like df1 b21 d4 f4 f3 and good pressure on block strings while having an easy 15f launcher in d3+4, a launching hellsweep and being all round in general with great block punishment and whiff punishment but obviously his execution is nearly or just as hard as Kazuya, just that he has a complete kit of fundamental tools to use where kaz does not.

[@Carsu12]

There is also what was mentioned here about Kazumi and Shaheen, Jin has access to generic tools with good frames

[@cloude8496]

What do you mean by power characthers?

[@abirneji]

@@cloude8496 heavy hitters like paul, fahk, and marduk, even without true combos their individual attacks can really hurt

[@guitarhero661]

Jin's difficulty is so overrated. Yeah hes harder than your average character but he doesnt come in the same tier as bryan, kaz or the other mishimas. He just has too many good tools and a lot of stuff that helps him in lower ranks. Mastering his parry or his optimal combos is whats hardest but you can do so well without them.

[@fatalfury28]

Exactly why I started picking up Kazuya (I'm a Gigas main at heart), like what TMM said, damn dude is really gonna force you to learn matchup, punishments, basically the fundamentals of T7. Just a week playing Kazuya (mostly losses lmao) helped me a lot with my Gigas, wished you can wavedash with Gigas lol, but everything else is a plus for my main.

[@kronksstronkstonks6360]

Gigas wavedashing at you is just a horrifying image. Shout out to you for being one of the few Gigas players though. I've only fought one deidacted gigas player before.

[@kyratuk2637]

I just picked up T7 and started playing bryan and its quite a drain but sometimes fun

[@thoraero]

Agreed. In low or even mid ranks, Kazuya was the easiest opponent for my Lee. Generally, their attacks were straightforward and defenses were weak under jab pressure. But I do respect these players taking a harsh route instead of braindead characters such as Noctis.

[@Harrisui]

well what i did is from tekken 6 first learned law but all i did was spam then went to lee (also spam) then went to lars then created an easy staple combo but switched to kazuya to learn execution properly but went on to learn other mishimas like heihachi because i got used to it for 2 years i think then went on to tekken 7 maining kazuya still but switched on to devil jin because i thought that he was easier to control after you learn proper execution and has better 50/50 all in all just get used to it no matter what character it is it depends on the player

[@Scrabble12]

can you rank the most to least realistic fighters

[@Vito-tn2yn]

hey mainman, can u pls answer me why, u deleted ur old TTT2 One Hour Ranked Jin & Devil Jin battles? thx buddy 🙏🏽😔

[@DeadlyDAssassin]

I think he even deleted his other TTT2 videos even revolution I used to play with him back in ps3 days I was his friend at some point i wonder y he deleted them as well

[@Vito-tn2yn]

@@DeadlyDAssassin mainman's use of the two (jin & devil jin) amuses me, since jin kazama is quite tricky to use, but perfectly balanced by devil jin i just wanna remember his combos, thats all o yeah, and also show my brother his moves with the two... 😔

[@yousufhellsing581]

Thank you dio for the video 😍 For me nina is a good character for beginners she's not that hard to learn fun to play as nina and asuka she's good for beginners so try them

[@terminhaider9695]

Tekken Tag 1 my first fighting game ever. I spammed kicks to get through fights on low difficulties as every character to get all the endings until I realized the practice mode. It was there I decided Kazuya would be the first character I want to learn how to actually play because he had the best goddamn drip in that shiny purple tux. when I found out how to use those advanced Mishima command inputs and some combos, that was when I realized what made fighting games as a whole so enjoyable and I've been hooked on the genre since. Tekken of course being my most played mostly for Kazuya because he made me bisexual. As difficult as he is to play, I've simply gotten used to his playstyle and simply don't enjoy playing the actual "beginner friendly" characters so I'll take those Ls because he actually makes you learn every other character in the game anyway when you need to analyze the other player arguably more than with any other character and go for outplays.

[@tensa-]

I purchased tekken a month or so ago, I’ve decided to main kazuya and I’m loving it so much. Been learning a few combos, wavedash, ewgf, hs, hl I love all his moves and his aesthetic. I’m glad I found tekken and kazuya

[@Angelo-kd6nd]

Wanna spar mirror kaz?

[@tensa-]

@@Angelo-kd6nd I'm on xbox1

[@one-wingedoreo]

All I needed to know. I don't care how many times I lose, I love Tekken and I love Kazuya. I grew up playing Tekken 6 as an Alisa player and ever since Kazuya dropped in smash I recognized him immediately. I absolutely adored him in smash and it inspired me to play Tekken again and learn Kaz. Alisa/Kazuya are my characters and I will press on and learn the game with them no matter how many ass kickings it takes for me to master them and master the game.

[@matejstemberk8110]

People in the chat look like they watch the streams just to flex about knowing what frames are or what frames does a specific move have lmao

[@lmin9890]

I got the game 6 months ago and started with Devil Jin because he is goddamn awesome and it took me 3 months to get a reliable electric. Im a masochist and I like the fact that time and effort is required in order to be successful with the Mishima boys.

[@Sean-kf1hk]

Me and my homie Kazuya killing it since tekken 1

[@bennybro121]

I just started and i play kaz!

[@KazzaIsTheWay]

Who is the Top 10 hardest characters to use?

[@SoggyHotDoggy]

I chose to start playing Kazuya solely because I knew playing him would *force* me to become better at Tekken. It’s worked in some ways and helped me scout out some bad habits, but man.... this shit is something else. Especially since I always choose to play on the left side. I can wavedash from the right, left is a struggle for me. But it’s still worth it cause hitting people with Kazuya feels damn good

[@SirePuns]

Been casually playing Kazuya since T2 (played a lotta Jin in T3 and didn't touch T4), imagine me finally reaching a point where I can sorta land electrics near the end of Tag 2. Still enjoy playing Kazuya, but unfortunately I always gravitate towards characters with a low execution bar (cuz I prefer focusing on the game than the character) over the more complex ones. So he's just there for me to play when I wanna fuck around.

[@mikaela5938]

i used to like playing mishimas and Jin the most but i think playing other charas like Lili, Eliza, and Noctis are more fun bc i can't do electrics consistently, i still love those guys though they're super cool villains

[@euvericetv5257]

Can I ask for a similar video like this for Mr.Excellent

[@PrinceK..]

Yes

[@yudcrazy4964]

I would say a good character for beginners who wants to learn fundamentals would be jack... at the very least, jack has brain-dead execution minus the ONE combo (tho it can somehow be replaced with db 2 except for tip range). So you can focus your mind solely on the fundamentals. And what's better, jack doesnt have any panic move so Jack strictly requires good fundamentals which forces the player to be actually good in tekken

[@ewgf_jfsr_uk1391]

Bro would make a tutorial bout kaz gut counter in wavedash? It’s fd1

[@michaelhernandez7568]

Do you recommend Noctis for beginners? because I love final fantasy XV and the character of Noctis

[@guidoscialo2681]

Absolutely. Is a very easy character, but it feels really good playing it

[@chasinghaze0962]

Yes. You can learn basic tekken stuff without worrying about execution.

[@TayloredRedWing]

So many Kayuzas at Green and Yellow

[@vivisbestie4647]

Kazuya and him are so fun to play for me

[@bigdsweet]

Kaz has a great 10 frame punish which is great for online.

[@waffles9373]

i started the game a few days ago and for the first character im trying to learn is eliza i didnt realize in tell later that she is hard

[@kaprikorn16188]

I've been playing Tekken since the first part. And since the first part I play Kazuya; but not aggressively online and competitively. The character is, in relation to other characters, very focused and - I always say - limited in its possibilities compared to other characters. If you want to play Kazuya, you have to learn how to block first. There are a couple of tricks you can use that make the gameplay super fun. I'm currently playing my way up the Treasure fight for the second time and enjoying it. With Kazuya you have to let the opponent come, at least I always do best with that tactic. Whether I could and would play a real tournament with him I don't know. I only know that it is worthwhile to deal with the character. What also helped me was to play Kazuya repeatedly from the beginning, from T1 to T7, to get a better feeling for speed and moveset. I don't understand any of the tournament talk ☺️ but yes, Kazuya is difficult, quite ponderous and certainly not the best choice for beginners. I love him.

[@joanforero1151]

I learned firsts with armored do and know I want to go with kazuya

[@amirhossein1817]

JDCR says mishima's wave dash game doesn't transfer over to other characters, and only gets you nasty habits when playing other characters. That's why he recommended playing a well rounded character like paul or Marshall, so you can learn everything about the game and have an easier time picking up the specialist characters later.

[@BigBoss64MV]

I suck with kazuya but hes cool AF same with Jin and Heihachi