How much RAM Do you ACTUALLY Need For Gaming? (2025)

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@YZ_Will
@YZ_Will 2 ай бұрын
gskill is top tier
@Jigaboo1929
@Jigaboo1929 2 ай бұрын
I love g skill
@Classikh
@Classikh 2 ай бұрын
TridentZ >>>
@slactweak
@slactweak 2 ай бұрын
Yep. I've been using RipJaws RAM for at least 10 years. I have never had a problem with RipJaws and I've installed it in all my machines and in the machines of several builds I did for family, friends, and customers.
@reinekewf7987
@reinekewf7987 2 ай бұрын
it dosent really matter what brand you use today because 95% off all RAM Chips are one of the 4 big player Micron, Samsing and Hynix. Also the memory training algorithms of you memory controller are way better as it was at DDR2 and DDR3 as it was introduced the first time. But as long your Manufacturer of that Stick doesn't screwed up with the PCB and their Configuration controller aka SPD = Serial Presence Detect, this tells your System everything that is needed to work properly and based on this information RAM testing and training works its magic and may or may not improve things. i have never tested if this does something but is annoying anyway waiting 10min for 64gb ram and i personally run RAM on JEDAC settings because of stability under constant High bandwidth. I do work with my PC for the most time, and sometimes it runs a singular workload at 90% CPU and constantly accessing 20gb to 58gb RAM. XMP sucks if you do that type of workload, even your program could run faster but utilizing 30 threads at one with a 4 times overprovisioning, because disk IO times therefore reducing CPU idle time, this means i run about 120 threads at once. Sometimes over Days. but back to the RAM it self. Cheaper brands using the same chips so the quality on RAM is the same, But temperature managing or signal integrity can be a problem on them especial on those RGB junk. In fact RGB slows your system down, for 2 reasons. 1. CPU usage, you have to actively write to a certain memory address on the RAM. 2. Rank blocking, you can only read or write to the ram if your rank you try to access is available and only one task per cycle has access. Rank interliving is the reason why 4 sticks are slower as 2 stick on a dual channel system, also the bandwidth stays the same. But this isn't fully true, it depends on if you use Single Rank or Dual Rank RAM. Your Memory controller can access 1/2/4 ranks per channel. The reason is address bus bit size. Usually DDR4 is 65bit wide bus, but some Single ranks use a 128bit wide address bus those are double-sided, there are perfect for big files. In this case, only 1 task can access the RAM per channel. if you have a Single Sided RAM this doesn't change even with a second stick, the reason is both using the same data lines. Dual rank RAM is the most common type and uses both sides of a Channel, therefore your memory controller can access both Ranks at the same time. If your Memory controler supports this you could use 4 Rank modules, but this cuts your data lines in half. the Benefits of this is you can have 4 tasks access the RAM at the same time bit the data chunks are half in size as well. This is perfect for databases who handle small 1kb or less files. Your memory controller has a limitation of how many ranks are addressable in one channel, but this doesn't change the bandwidth, only the potential Capacity and the performance depending on your workload. The numbers of Channels on the other hand increases the bandwidth and how many tasks can access at the same time, but more channels means more space is needed for your RAM controller on your CPU and this doesn't scale well, that is why consumer PC have only 2 Channels and 4 Ranks per Channel (2 slots per Channel). but you can access only one slot per channel, therefore your system constantly switching between slots, the faster you update your pretty RGB, the less possibility has your program to access your RAM and your CPU decides holding your thread in one core for processing and fewer cores are now available for your program as well. In the end, the slower your whole system is, the more impact on performance it has.
@SmokeDaily420
@SmokeDaily420 2 ай бұрын
i love my gskill 2 Flare X5 DDR5-6000
@miri3602
@miri3602 2 ай бұрын
Minimum 128gb cant even open 500 chrome tabs
@Gargentwitchongargee
@Gargentwitchongargee 2 ай бұрын
I can open 500 edge tabs with 16gb easily
@miri3602
@miri3602 2 ай бұрын
@@Gargentwitchongargee yea edge doesn't load any tabs unless you click on them so it's like having none until you press it
@zetahalo
@zetahalo 2 ай бұрын
​@@Gargentwitchongargeebut its edge tho. Chrome tabs are the real benchmark
@BREEZYM6015
@BREEZYM6015 2 ай бұрын
Can you even get two 64GB sticks on RAM? 32GB is plenty.
@Gargentwitchongargee
@Gargentwitchongargee 2 ай бұрын
@@BREEZYM6015 yes you can i think so
@i-donnt-like-pickles
@i-donnt-like-pickles 2 ай бұрын
32 for ddr4 is kinda my recommendation
@Aggressive_Splooge
@Aggressive_Splooge 2 ай бұрын
Yup! That's what I have right now and it's fine.
@Potential2006
@Potential2006 2 ай бұрын
@@Aggressive_SploogeI have 16gb ddr4 and it’s good
@JBrinx18
@JBrinx18 2 ай бұрын
​@@Potential2006I mean, for 2006 it's amazing. But there are a couple that break into 32 gb
@Potential2006
@Potential2006 2 ай бұрын
@@JBrinx18 yh
@Lurch-Bot
@Lurch-Bot 2 ай бұрын
That's enough for 273 open tabs and running a video export while playing Cyberpunk at 1440p high refresh.
@bauer9101
@bauer9101 2 ай бұрын
I got 32GB as it was cheap and I don’t want to think about it anymore.
@Jeff.78
@Jeff.78 2 ай бұрын
^^^This^^^ 32gb of DDR4 is under $50. 32gb of DDR5 is under $90.
@MackDaddyVic
@MackDaddyVic Ай бұрын
I literally just purchased 32 gigs of RAM for my DDR5 right now because of this lol
@DenDGLegionhardhouse
@DenDGLegionhardhouse 28 күн бұрын
Same here, got 32gb DDR4 for 60 euro's (3600mhz)
@TimmySensei
@TimmySensei 18 күн бұрын
It’s what I got and I don’t feel like it’s enough with 3070 8Gb when I have tabs open like KZbin videos on my other monitor my game I’m playing stutters so bad
@KinglyMisfit
@KinglyMisfit 14 күн бұрын
omg I feel this
@MtlkatRacing
@MtlkatRacing 2 ай бұрын
you did this test wrong fo a couple of reason. 1. different gpus with different amounts of vram. A video card with 8gb will offload more to the system ram than a 12gb card will. Shouldve used the exact same card in the systems 1a. You used different brands of gpu. Nvidia and AMD cards work completely differently to each other in regards to how their specific type of ram works while using dlss or the amd equivelant. 2. you didnt mention if you used dlss/ray tracing or not. 3. what speed was the ddr4 and ddr5? top speed ddr4 will outform low speed ddr5. 6. What timings and frequencies where was the ram running at?
@jeffleecust
@jeffleecust 2 ай бұрын
They made it clear they weren’t comparing the DDR4 to the DDR5. So all DDR4 comparisons were on the same rig as each other and all DDR5 comparisons were on the same rig as each other. What’s the issue?
@darkblade732
@darkblade732 Ай бұрын
@@jeffleecust Basic scientific method rules. You don't want more than one variable that would affect the testing of your theory/question. Especially with PCs you'd want the highest GPU possible to prevent any limitations. Honestly Im surprised @cameronliddell9533 didnt mention not using Intel Cpus due to their ability to use both DDR4 & 5 for the same reasons prior.
@Pyro.ae1
@Pyro.ae1 29 күн бұрын
Yes, was honestly just disappointed that the card I’m planning on getting, the 4060, wasn’t even tested with ddr5.
@EdwardCourtney-q4f
@EdwardCourtney-q4f 7 күн бұрын
@@jeffleecustI know but I was still confused and thought they were so I’m like u get an extra 100 fps I forgot thy said that
@mickhunt1952
@mickhunt1952 6 күн бұрын
Don't get 4060​@@Pyro.ae1
@darrkstarg
@darrkstarg Ай бұрын
I'm honestly really happy with 64GB. It lets me keep my chrome tabs open and play games at the same time. It also lets me run virtual machines while doing other things.
@ekkla85
@ekkla85 Ай бұрын
Thissss!!!
@Alienvisitor007
@Alienvisitor007 Ай бұрын
I have 64gb too but I still close everything to play games. I guess im old fashioned 😂
@ekkla85
@ekkla85 Ай бұрын
@@Alienvisitor007 😄🤣😂 guess it's time to move to 128gb
@k5elevencinc0
@k5elevencinc0 6 күн бұрын
​@Alienvisitor007 Same here. After years of struggling on a low end stock PC. 😂
@gr8b8m85
@gr8b8m85 Ай бұрын
Pretty insane that we need 32 GB now just to have discord and a game running. And it's for sure 32 GB minimum because modern games will just get more demanding from here.
@verrat3219
@verrat3219 12 күн бұрын
Ddr6 will come out before we start needing more than 32gb ram
@mattlamb8084
@mattlamb8084 2 ай бұрын
you probably should've used the same gpu on each system so that there isn't any confusion for the ppl who don't necessarily understand what to look for, and at the same time you'd be showing the benefit of going with a newer platform.
@buildyourcomputer
@buildyourcomputer 2 ай бұрын
it would eliminate variables, which is always good.
@mattlamb8084
@mattlamb8084 Ай бұрын
@@buildyourcomputer For sure, and also one GPU has 8GB Vram while the other has 12GB, which can heavily influence 1%, .1% lows from what ive seen, often more than the amount of system Ram
@Mr99gsrteg
@Mr99gsrteg Ай бұрын
I agree with this, its not really a fair comparison when most everything is completely different. Or at least use an RX7600 since its most comparable to the 4060.
@tomofthepops
@tomofthepops Ай бұрын
Yeah the comparison makes absolutely no sense if your aren't using the same hardware.
@PuddingTaToRnAtOr
@PuddingTaToRnAtOr Ай бұрын
Thank you for saving my time, I was a minute in when I came across your comment and I’m so glad I did 💀🤝🏻
@LatitudeSky
@LatitudeSky 2 ай бұрын
Just took my gaming PC from 32 to 64GB. Because I wanted to. Have yet to find a single use for the extra memory, other than just being cool to have more RAM than I've ever had before.
@tiagonascimento4386
@tiagonascimento4386 Ай бұрын
classic example of bigger is not better if you dont know how to use it lmao😂😉 Have fun
@Sweetguy1821
@Sweetguy1821 26 күн бұрын
I just wanted to fill all 4 ram slots in my new pc since it looks better 😂
@AhuizotlXiuh
@AhuizotlXiuh 25 күн бұрын
​@@Sweetguy1821 filling all the slots can slow down your memory. It's best to use the two slots listed in the manual. They even sell dummy sticks you can use to fill the slots for aesthetics.
@Mr.-Toad
@Mr.-Toad 16 күн бұрын
Try looking into Virtual Machines
@LulzSecvirusinvader
@LulzSecvirusinvader 16 күн бұрын
Try flight simulator in VR. 32 it nothing
@shawnmorrow8350
@shawnmorrow8350 2 ай бұрын
16GB minimum, 32GB is nice to have, 64GB or more if you are running NASA models and have a supercomputer. I run 16GB in my HTPC and 32GB in my 2 other machines. Most of the games I play are older anyways, new games kinda universally suck. lol
@hawkeye7527
@hawkeye7527 2 ай бұрын
Cyberpunk is the only "new" game I play. I have hopes for Space Marine 2 (can't afford it yet). Otherwise, Warhammer 2, Rome 2, and the like for me.
@yudi8204
@yudi8204 2 ай бұрын
@@hawkeye7527 And It's released 4 years ago, BMW is the only decent new games
@DROCKTECH
@DROCKTECH Ай бұрын
Didn't watch the video? Typically. 16gb doesn't work well if you have discord open, share ur screen, have more than 1 monitor, have open internet tabs or anything. Just diagnosed a pc with stuttering during tarkov and Microsoft flight sim. The cause. 16gb of ram and discord open while playing. 32gb is minimum for gaming now.
@Zakinaator
@Zakinaator Ай бұрын
My Warzone running 32g ddr5 6000mhz, 20000mb, 4k OLED 65" 120hz + Windows11 and more.
@yxon1ph
@yxon1ph 21 күн бұрын
16 gb rn is not minimum lol
@svingarm9283
@svingarm9283 2 ай бұрын
Staying with ddr4 for a few more years :) Because everything I play runs perfectly with ddr4, and it's the same with my 4060 card, it can run everything I play perfectly and at max. I'm also not one of those people who just change because something is better, when what I have now just runs well :) But there are always some crazy people who want the newest and fastest all the time, so they can show a go score to their friends and brag a bit about the fact that they have now wasted a lot of money on something they absolutely DO NOT need
@caliginousmoira8565
@caliginousmoira8565 Ай бұрын
at least you said everything you play and not 'it runs every game at 4k max settings at 120+ fps'
@Me-eb3wv
@Me-eb3wv Ай бұрын
Yup, I love PC gaming as much as the next guy, but I love sticking with my hardware for as long as I can. I’m running in 6gb of vram and it’s still useable in 2024 Also, I never really understood the people who are constantly upgrading to the latest part the second they’re announced
@GoldenKnight702
@GoldenKnight702 Ай бұрын
I have the same and it does everything I need and more
@Jason-fv5my
@Jason-fv5my Ай бұрын
I like my games to run good and also look good so I spend more lol 32gb of fast ddr5 with my rtx4070 super TI is perfect for me 🤷‍♂️ I gotta have max settings everytime
@ChristianSander1969
@ChristianSander1969 Ай бұрын
Agreed.. I will stick with my trusty old i9-9900k and 32Gb DDR4@3200MHz.. Only upgrade I have made for years, is a change from a ROG STRIX 2070 to an ASUS TUF 4060Ti As long as I can play the games I play (Destiny 2, Warframe, Diablo 4, Helldivers 2 and BF2042) at high to ultra settings and still get 60+ fps I am not changing..
@metalguitarman01
@metalguitarman01 5 күн бұрын
Each to their own but when 16 gig was the standard I started buying 32 gigs. When I noticed that some games with a few things running in the background started taking 22-25 gigs I moved to 64 gigs and have been there since the 9900k lol
@heyabro-p2b
@heyabro-p2b 2 ай бұрын
I've got a dual kit of 32 Gb Corsair Vengeance @6000 MHz DDR5 RGB in my main PC, and it's been very solid. I originally only had 16 GB of T-FORCE Vulcan @6000 MHz, but I decided to upgrade just because I had the extra money and I'm glad I did. I have used 16 GB for a past system @2666 Speeds, and it was terrible. so, the jump from 2666 to 6000 MHz dual channel was quite noticeable. like I mean... REALLY noticeable. love this kit of 6000 MHz ram from corsair so much.
@SilenceAtMidnight
@SilenceAtMidnight 2 ай бұрын
For fortnite specifically you can enable replays that capture the game and avoid run to run variance by benchmarking the replay, if you go to career and then replays you can just play the same game over and over.
@frankiepoindexter445
@frankiepoindexter445 2 ай бұрын
I just built a PC with 64gb of RAM and with all of the games I've tested the PC is only using about 20% of that at peak usage. The GPU is getting a lot more utilization.
@lucas_m1740
@lucas_m1740 2 ай бұрын
This makes 32gb a good option
@kurtoskalacs9116
@kurtoskalacs9116 2 ай бұрын
Depends heavily on games you play, me personally I am playing a old MMO where multiboxing is allowed and run the game with several instances (daily 6 at once and a couple of times a week with 30+ clients) using up around 70% of my RAM usage along with my 5950X almost maxed out.
@lucas_m1740
@lucas_m1740 2 ай бұрын
beamng pretty much eats through my 16gb at the moment. Around ~13ish usage.
@Gutimine2004
@Gutimine2004 2 ай бұрын
@@lucas_m1740usually in idle computer uses around 3gb of ram. It only uses 13gb cuz that’s the amount left for it to use :) I had the same thing happen to me until I added another 16gb
@jordan-mn6yy
@jordan-mn6yy Ай бұрын
My pc is w10 and running with ~6 gb ram usage during idle. I count steam app open as idle
@MechArenaEno
@MechArenaEno 17 күн бұрын
Props to your sponsor when I was building G skill 0:51 was the best value. And those Trident memory sticks were fast as could be. ❤
@matthewkendall5235
@matthewkendall5235 10 күн бұрын
For gaming 32 GB is a Great start - for astro photography - 132 to 256 or 512 GB is fairly common. Your hobbies determine your needs - and if your gear has his much capability - you can do a lot more than simply play games. Modern GPUs with their abundance of CUDA cores can really streamline tasks that take a while. Sharpening a 73MB image of a nebula takes 16 minutes on my 36 core dual Xeon workstation - but when I used GPU rather than CPU based CUDA this task on my RTX 4070 shrinks to a minute!
@sunewjenkuzo2835
@sunewjenkuzo2835 18 күн бұрын
I wanna feel safe with 64GB of DDR5 I know its not needed but vrchat does eat up a lot of the ram and I like to have many programs open I do stream on twitch sometimes and would like the extra ram space since I know sometime in the future things will get more demanding.
@Idkmanlemmeedit
@Idkmanlemmeedit 7 сағат бұрын
Nothing wrong with feeling safe
@colemayes443
@colemayes443 26 күн бұрын
32 is becoming the normal and I plan on keeping my 4080 laptop for quite a few years, so I went from 16 to 48. Couldn’t quite justify 64
@notavailable9919
@notavailable9919 2 ай бұрын
As long as your total system usage is less than your total ram capacity, there is zero benefit to having more ram. The thing that really matters is Frequency and timings.
@CherryColaWizard
@CherryColaWizard 2 ай бұрын
True.
@Lurch-Bot
@Lurch-Bot 2 ай бұрын
This is why scraping your way onto AM5 is a bad idea. You end up with cheap DDR5 that performs worse than some average DDR4.
@yudi8204
@yudi8204 2 ай бұрын
@@Lurch-Bot Can you elaborate? might help me to decide between 12400f(dead LGA1700) build or 7500f (AM5)
@notavailable9919
@notavailable9919 2 ай бұрын
@@yudi8204 AM5 is the only way to go if you want any longevity and an upgrade path.
@dolpoof2335
@dolpoof2335 2 ай бұрын
@@Lurch-Bot unless you get a bundle from microcenter ofc.
@SovereignKnight74
@SovereignKnight74 6 күн бұрын
I'm using 64GB ClL28 5600 (32X2) on a 7800X3d . I use 24GB for the Primocache game drive, and the rest available for the system/games. Primocache is being used to accelerate access times/load times for maximum performance, 5600 Cl28 is basically = to 6000 CL30 (10ms) latency for both.
@gibbysg8143
@gibbysg8143 2 ай бұрын
I went from 32 GB to 4 sticks 64 GB purely for looks. It was worth it. Have had no stability issues on a asrock x670e lightning and 7950x
@reesesman8821
@reesesman8821 2 ай бұрын
Great video guys as usual great to see this video on a nice slow sunday
@lancegallant3647
@lancegallant3647 Ай бұрын
2 x 32 gig corsair vengence 6400mhz Wd blackseriea 4tb 850x hd 4090 I7 13700k runs absolutely mint
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
In reality, unless you're doing content creation like 3D rendering (DAZ Studio) image editing, (Adobe Photoshop) video editing, (DivVinci Resolve), or 3D model creation, (Unreal Engine) you only need 16GB of RAM. It's always wise to check the RECOMMENDED specs of your games and not the REQUIRED specs of your games. A GOOD graphics card is your greatest ally when it comes to FPS performance, not RAM.
@brucevandermescht6957
@brucevandermescht6957 24 күн бұрын
Actually a good CPU is your ally for high FPS, but try again.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez 24 күн бұрын
@@brucevandermescht6957 Unless the CPU has the GPU built in, (Intel Inegrated Graphics, for instance) you're absolutely wrong. If your GPU is handling the graphics processing, (that's why it's called a GPU) then that task is left to the GPU, not the CPU.
@lollol-uh1st
@lollol-uh1st Ай бұрын
Been running 64GB (3600), with 16 core on AM4 since Jan 2020.
@BladeCrew
@BladeCrew 2 ай бұрын
I upgraded a year ago from 16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 to 32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16. Since I upgraded my cpu 1-2 months ago from ryzen 5 1600 AF to ryzen 5 5500, now I can run quad channel xmp. I have 4 kingston fury beast 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16.
@jordan-mn6yy
@jordan-mn6yy Ай бұрын
Dual rank ram isnt quad channel but some say it is.
@brianwalker7771
@brianwalker7771 2 ай бұрын
The amount of ram you NEED varies greatly on what your doing. Starfield for example will run with 16gb but of course runs better with 32gb. The Starfield Creation Kit however REQUIRES 32gb and recommends 48gb or higher. When building a PC or buying a pre made one find out how many slots you have and your maximum potential of your board and CPU. That way You have a future upgrade path that way no matter what you choose.
@deterpeter11
@deterpeter11 2 ай бұрын
Is the shop open for the public? Ive been watching the videos for awhile now but just realized that you all are right across the bridge. Keep up the good work and great videos
@ToastyBros
@ToastyBros 2 ай бұрын
Yes! Google PCBros for hours and address
@arch1107
@arch1107 2 ай бұрын
its a shop you visit to buy pcs, in the night is visited by thieves, as reported months before
@CyberPunk-ow3gi
@CyberPunk-ow3gi 17 күн бұрын
going to 32 is going to help my GTX card out a lot. going from 140 to 180 may not be a lot for you but for me, someone who is experiencing stuttering it will smooth everything out. I struggle to maintain 75fps cause my lows are looooow. Rams in the mail. next upgrade will be GPU
@cebuanostud
@cebuanostud 2 ай бұрын
I initially had 16gig(2x8) then after few months I added two more sticks of the same brand so now it's 32gig (4x8). Pc feels to run much smoother, less hiccups lol and I can remain few apps open while gaming. You can't go wrong with adding more ram to your pc.
@TriggeredMonkey
@TriggeredMonkey 8 күн бұрын
32gb RAM here. I have a very modest system, but Diablo 4 was consuming outrageous amount of RAM (22GB) RAM is cheap - it's the most logical way to update your system
@flyinghigh1868
@flyinghigh1868 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommend more than 32GB for RAM, especially for DDR5 unless you actually really need it. Reason? Because the higher your capacity, the slower your RAM MT/s and CAS latency speeds will be. Also, higher capacity usually comes with more than 2 sticks, which will in turn, force you to use lower speeds and timings (unless you really get lucky). Issues like crashes or failure to boot are common signs that for your capacity, your speed is too high (even if it is normal for 32 or 16GB).
@bigfootrobot2115
@bigfootrobot2115 Ай бұрын
Depend on resolution & how heavy the in-game world building. The bigger the screen, bigger the world, bigger texture = More ram.
@Zakinaator
@Zakinaator 14 күн бұрын
Yes!i have ddr5 6000mhz, 4k oled 65" COD Warzone need 17000-20000mb. Plus windows 11 and another programs.
@Jeffmd2020
@Jeffmd2020 19 күн бұрын
I have 32GB trident g skill z5 neo rgb and my PC is fully optimized by the founder of FPSHub and they told me going to either 4 sticks or even 2 stick of total 64GB would be to much and more then likely slow me down cause I’d never utilize that much ram
@johnjoy6374
@johnjoy6374 Ай бұрын
Do the amount of dimms matter??? I was thinking of getting the recommended ram for my new AMD Ryzen 9800X3D that is going on my new AsRock X780E motherboard, but unfortunately it only comes in 2 dimms of 16GB for a total of 32GB. I need at least 42GB for Star Citizen for it to play well. So I was thinking of getting two packs, which would be 64GB over 4 dimms of G.skills Royal 6000 28 latency. Should that be okay??? Or should I find a different ram kit that has 2 dimms of 32gb for a total of 64gb???? Thank you for you time and I will like and subscribe
@rodrigolbrigante
@rodrigolbrigante 27 күн бұрын
several tests prove that both intel and AMD struggle to handle 4 dimms. When using 4 dimms, usually the frequency of all of them drop to the minimum, so if I were you, I would go with a 2x 32GB to have 64GB total, and still get high frequency. For example, 2x 32GB would run at 5600mhz while 4x 16GB would run at 4800 or lower (even though each dimm individually could go up to 6000 or more). If amount of RAM is more important to you than frequency speed, then go for 4 dimms, but if higher memory frequency matters, then try as much as possible to stay with 2 dimms to make sure you are getting the max frequency possible.
@johnjoy6374
@johnjoy6374 27 күн бұрын
@ yeah, I did further research and I since I purchased a 9800X3D, Asrock Taichi X870E, I ended up going with the AMD recommended 2 dimm set of G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000 (2x32) for a total of 64gb. The reason I went with 64gb instead of 32gb, is that watching a reviewer I trust showed that for Star Citizen (the game I play the most), you need a minimum of 42gb of ram to get higher stable frame rates. I also play a lot of Helldivers 2, which only needs 32gb, but Star Citizen is my focus. Thank you very much for the information, I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to get back to me.
@tylerthere5832
@tylerthere5832 12 күн бұрын
32gb is the best bet to avoid those really big 0.1% stutters right now, plus a potential 1% lows improvement.
@realpinkpanther2935
@realpinkpanther2935 27 күн бұрын
and here i am going in to 2025 with my Ryzen 5 2600 48GB DDR4 with Radeon RX 590 8GB why do i still feel so cool sorry i am OK
@turboboy0
@turboboy0 2 ай бұрын
i have 16gb ddr4 in 2 laptops, 32gb ddr4 in a 3rd laptop, 32gb ddr4 in 1 desktop and 64gb ddr5 in the 2nd desktop. only 1 of the 16gb laptops isnt for gaming and is super old but i still use it for watching videos and surfing the web (all its good for anymore). i tend to have 10+ tabs open at all times even while gaming.
@TronixGuy93
@TronixGuy93 2 ай бұрын
The minimum anomaly @ mid sets 32 is due to the allocation refresh time of each strobe. More columns and rows to charge discharge. You should also test 24 and 40 MB to discover parity between odds and include soe stats for budget gaps between standards.
@Jeff.78
@Jeff.78 2 ай бұрын
99% of everyone who reads this has no idea what you're talking about, myself incuded.
@TronixGuy93
@TronixGuy93 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry they feel that way.​@@Jeff.78
@HawkBryant
@HawkBryant 2 ай бұрын
We recommend 32gb ddr4 and ddr5 are perfectly a lot of triple a titles and competitive games without micro shutters.
@jonpeley
@jonpeley 2 ай бұрын
Between 16 and 32. The first as a minimum and the second for future proofing. Have 4x8 Gb G-Skill Tridentz 3600 C16 and they're quality. But I don't like that you can't disable RGB forever in BIOS.
@Dr.Kryptanical
@Dr.Kryptanical Ай бұрын
for gaming maybe 32gb is enough for alpha testing Star Citizen I reccomend more... you can get by on 16 or 32 but like I said I reccomend more the cap off i've seen people mention having at the worst case scenario of a memory leak is at 48GB's when a guy had 64GB's of ram he was playing on max settings 4k without dlss with a top intel system oced! from what people have gathered when this effect seems to occur it will change depending on how much hardware ram memory they have... that being said I got 3200Mhz 2 x32GB kingston sticks and the usage has never gone above anything higher than 30 (but I used DLSS on quality and have my res set to 3264x1836 it's the res just below native 4k) I also have clouds on high not very high or photo least for now I got a decent enough system but i'm upgrading my motherboard, cpu, ram and nvme next year which will hopefully give me a boost in many games! most notably my 5600x and pcie3.0 motherboard is seriously bottlenecking my strix 4070ti OC edition!
@inf0g
@inf0g Ай бұрын
You tell about AM4 for gamming in 2025? Seriously? AM4 was released in 2016, AM5 in 2022. I will of course be playing on my Core 2 Duo in 2025, but there are builds for 2K on ultra settings.
@1BadVan
@1BadVan 2 ай бұрын
Love my G.skil Trident Z rgb ram. 32gb DDR5 6400mhz kit, ran perfect right out of the box on xmp
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 2 ай бұрын
None those Corsair shenanigans where they sell you PC4800 to overclock.
@drbrofessor7956
@drbrofessor7956 4 күн бұрын
So is Ram fixing stuttering? i play on a i7 7700k (4,9ghz oc) and a 1080gtx. I tweaked the shit out of my computer and the game. I get +230 fps but got bad stutters to 60 fps randomly. Game is not enjoyable
@nickbiales
@nickbiales 2 ай бұрын
I don’t wish to be a downer but shouldn’t you have used a cpu that can use both ddr4 and ddr5?
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 2 ай бұрын
They’re not comparing the two systems to each other. They’re citing two examples of three different sizes of RAM for each.
@rickgeller6043
@rickgeller6043 2 ай бұрын
Do your own test and post the video.
@nickbiales
@nickbiales 2 ай бұрын
CPU architecture to CPR architecture uses ram different ram is different. I’m saying remove all the variables. I see it kind of like you’re putting premium into one car and regular unleaded into another of two different sized engines.
@ToastyBros
@ToastyBros 2 ай бұрын
The video is not comparing DDR4 vs DDR5, it’s how much you need for each platform independently. We do have plans to make a video discussing if DDR5 is worth it, but honestly all new platforms will have DDR5 only soon so it really isn’t a choice anymore Also with your car analogy , we are not racing those two cars against each other ;)
@euphobone
@euphobone 2 ай бұрын
But they would still need to change motherboards anyway. DDR5 does not fit in DDR4 slots.
@DANIDANI310
@DANIDANI310 Ай бұрын
64gb of ram is an overkill for desktop pc's and daily use like gaming and watching some 'youtube'. 32gb is really the sweet spot for a pc if you don't work with it too hard with heavy programs. And if you really on a budget 16gb will be just fine in most cases, just take in mind that there are PHONES nowdays with that amount of ram.
@safn1949
@safn1949 2 ай бұрын
I routinely run 32gb in my desktops, my Z2 G4 will run 128gb, but that's a little much for what I do, I can get 64gb used here in the Philippines for about $85.
@beowulf885
@beowulf885 6 күн бұрын
Seeing the min fps in black myth wukong is the main reason why 48gb is the reccomended ammount of ram in 2025 for me.
@oldschooldude8370
@oldschooldude8370 8 күн бұрын
16gb is all you need for gaming. It also allows you to lower timings & makes o/c easier.
@anthonyclark2873
@anthonyclark2873 14 күн бұрын
I just install some G.SKILL Ripjaws. I am going no RGB for the First Time. Ripjaws look good and you do get more for your money as far as specs. I just always saw these as Budget Build Stuff. For the look I am going for I'm happy. We are at the Transition Point, with RAM. 16G, is JUST enough, now. I have been on, 32g for Two Years, wondering when we would get here. It's the Spikes, I try to avoid. I don't want an Application, to all of a sudden need more Memory, than is Free, and Crash.
@lolcatmaroon
@lolcatmaroon Ай бұрын
Very few creators mention a huge factor... You noobs forgot too...its how many RANKS the module has. The optimum for a new 2024 build is 2x 32GB DDR5 6000 using SINGLE RANK modules. Lower latency and better fps.
@davidhines7592
@davidhines7592 2 ай бұрын
diablo 4 demands (for ultra settings) 32gb ram and 16gb vram. but... i have 32gb ddr4, play at 1080p medium settings or lower - and memory leaks fill it up slowly. i tried 48gb by adding back the old ram and d4 just nommed more ram than 32. so d4 vessel of hatred is pretty much pointing to 64gb ram soon becoming recommended for games, along with 16gb vram. partly because more people getting 4k monitors and gpus i suspect.
@AetherPrimeML
@AetherPrimeML 2 ай бұрын
I already have 2x Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 CL32 38 38 96 1.35V AMD EXPO, does it work with intel motherboard MSI Z790 GAMING PLUS WIFI, Socket 1700, ATX, Wi-Fi ? I dont want to overclock anything, just need to know, are they compatible ?
@Jeff.78
@Jeff.78 2 ай бұрын
Is your board DDR5? That will answer your question. ✌️😎
@AetherPrimeML
@AetherPrimeML 2 ай бұрын
@@Jeff.78 Thank you for your answer. Yes, it supports DDR5 and sorry if it was a silly question, i have very little knowledge about PC components.
@zachsilby4569
@zachsilby4569 2 ай бұрын
I got two 16gb kits, and after setting the bios to run at the lower speed they were both able to run at, I've got 32gb, pretty nice
@montgomeryfitzpatrick473
@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 26 күн бұрын
Most games really don't need 32gb, if you did some benchmarking on your most played games you'd probably find better fps with the faster 16gb kit than 32
@zachsilby4569
@zachsilby4569 26 күн бұрын
@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 To be honest, I haven't noticed a difference, I just put it in to see if it would work. I'm just waiting till going back to my storage shed to grab my other DDR4 system to put the spare sticks into so I can sell it
@worstmkplayer4505
@worstmkplayer4505 2 ай бұрын
The faces Jackson makes when Matt is talking are funny 😂
@BigBerias
@BigBerias 20 күн бұрын
you should have tested different resolutions in order for this video to be accurate. At 1440p 16gb isnt enough in half the games i play, theres always 15.7 gb of the 16gb in use when i play more intense games while in 1080p, 16gb is plenty. Cool video idea, but i feel like its lacking information
@JustGiverEHD1
@JustGiverEHD1 14 күн бұрын
would 64gb 16x4 6000mhz cl30 with expo enabled work properly? paired with ryzen 7600 and msi b650 tomahawk
@kingdramanyz
@kingdramanyz Ай бұрын
32 gig gskills with a 4090 strix on a extreme z790. 4k 144hz panel when my girl played hogwarts....ram usage was at 90-95 % any adobe tasks quickly shoot up and past 32 gigs. Ai stuff..... my next build cannot and will not be 32 gigs. Definitely 64 but maybe 96.
@TheMacksterz
@TheMacksterz 4 күн бұрын
32gb is perfect for ddr4, gaming the most ive ever hit was like 21gb at the max. i avg about 14gb to 17gb of ram. so 16 can work
@MoominBoomin
@MoominBoomin Ай бұрын
You should dive into the difference in performance between different memory dies! we! love! HYNIX!
@dabbzgaming
@dabbzgaming 2 күн бұрын
I've been using a Rog Strix b760i with 1 fucked DIMM slot for almost a year now and have been wondering how much my 16gb would be boosted if the other DIMM slot worked lmao
@jeffleecust
@jeffleecust 2 ай бұрын
I went with 32 gb DDR4 (4x8) because I liked the way it looked with all ram slots filled. It’s accidental that 32 is way to go.
@rickgeller6043
@rickgeller6043 2 ай бұрын
I didn't expect a video drop on Sunday. Well 32 GB's of RAM for DDR4 or DDR5.
@geraldsaved
@geraldsaved Ай бұрын
was this in dual channel or quad?
@jasonwestwood7092
@jasonwestwood7092 12 күн бұрын
I think 7000 series only support Dual or single Channel.
@AlexanderBunra
@AlexanderBunra 13 күн бұрын
10700K 2080S 16GB I get crazy stutters and I like gaming with music so having KZbin in the background with the game open i can see chrome lagging so from my experience I think 32GB is the way.
@beezienkirsten
@beezienkirsten 16 күн бұрын
Plan on getting a rtx 5090 custom desktop from Origin. Think will go with 64gb or more for future proofing. If do 64gb is best to do 32gb x2 or 16gb x4.?
@alastairgames_
@alastairgames_ 2 ай бұрын
I wish you would’ve matched the timings on all your ram kits…
@arch1107
@arch1107 2 ай бұрын
the goal was show how well it does the more ram you have, not how well it does the timings you want, keep in mind that most people never touch timigs to avoid stability problems, it is wasted time to play with those settings for hours and discover days later the pc is still unstable but you were sure it was
@last_kissyoo8987
@last_kissyoo8987 18 күн бұрын
I can’t play on full details on warzone with 32gb ram it’s us 87% of my ram game turned off straight away
@last_kissyoo8987
@last_kissyoo8987 18 күн бұрын
Im using i9 13900k and GeForce 4070ti super by the way
@LilLayne11
@LilLayne11 Ай бұрын
I'm curious, why did you guys chose not to have the same amount of ram minimum and maximum? With ddr4 you went as low as 16gb and with ddr5 you went as high as 64gb.
@victorjosealvarezhane6733
@victorjosealvarezhane6733 2 ай бұрын
What about 24gb ddr5? I just bought a new gaming laptop with the rx 7700s and dual channel 16gb ddr5 ram. Im planning on replacing one of the 8gb sticks for a 16gb for a total oh 24gb at 4800mhz. Is it a good idea to go with this config? Also another question. By having different ram sizes would it affect the dual channel functionality or it wouldn't affect it at all?
@ThatGambitGuy
@ThatGambitGuy Ай бұрын
Hi so I just upgraded my old shit box I uypower from 8 gb ram to 48gb. Found some good cheap ram on sale ddr4 b360mb. I was wondering actually it’s running at 2133 lowest speeds. How do I get them to run at a higher speed. Is there a way to do this any help is appreciated thanks
@yourhandlehere1
@yourhandlehere1 25 күн бұрын
I bought 2x32 Corsair vengeance...died after 3 months, won't run XMP, won't even run normal. It does 2120 15-15-15. Supposed to be 3200. I hate having to send stuff back.
@ShutterSpeedGaming
@ShutterSpeedGaming 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for saving me money! 💰 I had Corsair vengeance in my Amazon cart. Going to go with a different brand.
@chad6
@chad6 Ай бұрын
Currently have 32gb 4800mhz on a 13900kf and rtx 4090. Thinking of upgrading to 96gb of 5600mhz. Would I be better off getting that in 4 sticks or 2?
@pimpinpenguin6973
@pimpinpenguin6973 Ай бұрын
2
@rodrigolbrigante
@rodrigolbrigante 27 күн бұрын
several tests prove that both intel and AMD struggle to handle 4 dimms. When using 4 dimms, usually the frequency of all of them drop to the minimum, so if I were you, I would go with a 2x 48GB to have 96GB total, and still get high frequency. For example, 2x 48GB would run at 6000mhz while 4x 24GB would run at 4800 or lower (even though each dimm individually could go up to 6000 or more). If amount of RAM is more important to you than frequency speed, then go for 4 dimms, but if higher memory frequency matters, then try as much as possible to stay with 2 dimms to make sure you are getting the max frequency possible.
@jordan-mn6yy
@jordan-mn6yy Ай бұрын
What if you get fast 2x16gb pair now for 32gb of ram and if need be get another of the same pair later on, would the cpu have a problem running the same speeds on 4 sticks? Cause ppl say that amd cpu having that issue.
@kravenfoxbodies2479
@kravenfoxbodies2479 2 ай бұрын
I don't know the difference between 2 x 16GB vs 4 x 8GB on B550, the only way I could get the DDR 3600Mhz Cl 14 stuff was in 8GB sticks made by Muskin Redline, they are paired with a 5700x also.
@ohhaisman
@ohhaisman 2 ай бұрын
Depends… speed, type of RAM, how much RAM, how many sticks you’re using, what games you’re playing, etc…
@zetahalo
@zetahalo 2 ай бұрын
How much for tetris and drink beer simulator?
@BREEZYM6015
@BREEZYM6015 2 ай бұрын
​@@zetahalo8GB😂
@lucas_m1740
@lucas_m1740 2 ай бұрын
2666mhz?
@raulhidalgo6817
@raulhidalgo6817 2 ай бұрын
I feel like to really show how much ram is needed for ddr4 and ddr5, the testing should have been done on 12th-14th gen intel systems with the same cpu, same gpu and heck maybe even the dame motherboard just the ddr4 and ddr5 versions
@Jeff.78
@Jeff.78 2 ай бұрын
To quote a legend: "There's not enough of a difference to make a difference."
@films4life69
@films4life69 Ай бұрын
In fortnite you can use replay mode to test the frames in the same scenario
@unnamedchannel1237
@unnamedchannel1237 28 күн бұрын
Easiest way is monitor what is being used. If the RAM is maxing all the time you need more . Simple as that
@mbf6160
@mbf6160 Ай бұрын
Had 16 gbs for yrs finally jumped to 32 gb ddr4 well worth it 😎🤙🏾
@Isrk786ashfaq
@Isrk786ashfaq 2 ай бұрын
32gb is enough but you also need a enough vram of gpu...at least 12gb
@jasonwestwood7092
@jasonwestwood7092 12 күн бұрын
12 Gb Vram Minimum 16 for 2K at Max settings and 20GB ideally for 4K or more.
@mzulhilmi4506
@mzulhilmi4506 2 ай бұрын
I have 2x 8gb = 16gb. If i just remove one and add a 16gb for 24gb. Does that makes a difference? Or will it be an issue due to different ram capacity?
@FJ1903
@FJ1903 26 күн бұрын
dont do that, only use pairs that you bought together
@mzulhilmi4506
@mzulhilmi4506 26 күн бұрын
@FJ1903 noted. Same brand. But can a 24gb ram cause any issue? Or should should we just follow same speed and capacity as well?
@FJ1903
@FJ1903 25 күн бұрын
@@mzulhilmi4506 you can mix and match, but they Will operate att the slowest speed. It might cause issues so that’s why I always go the safe route and use the same ram sticks
@PLMassTahh
@PLMassTahh 27 күн бұрын
As much as I like the style of the video... not showing 0,1% Lows and 1% Lows kinda defeat it's purpose. This is where higher capacity shows benefits. Who cares about few FPS average drop if you can have butter smooth experience without annoying stutter when you progress from area to area. Open world ARPG games are especially sensitive to that.
@DDjokovic
@DDjokovic 20 күн бұрын
why would u pair 7700xt with 7700x, 7600x is better and cheaprer option for 7700xt :D in my opinion :D keep with good content
@Zakinaator
@Zakinaator Ай бұрын
32g is minimum. My Warzone running 32g ddr5 6000mhz, 20000mb, 4k OLED 65" 120hz + Windows11 and more.
@chewyguru
@chewyguru 28 күн бұрын
Slow refresh rate for all that money you already threw at your PC
@Zakinaator
@Zakinaator 28 күн бұрын
@@chewyguru It's none of your business what I do with my money.
@fredsmodel3n192
@fredsmodel3n192 Ай бұрын
Question: does DDR-5 work in a AM4 system like B550? Thanks
@bruhgod5000
@bruhgod5000 2 ай бұрын
question and I don't want to sound dumb but will you get better performance with ray tracing with ddr5 ram
@festivejarate
@festivejarate 2 ай бұрын
Why does the title say 2025
@stevejr777
@stevejr777 Ай бұрын
I may have missed it but are you using the same cas latency on all the ddr4 16, 32 and 64 and same with the ddr5?
@SpiderWaffle
@SpiderWaffle 27 күн бұрын
What CPU cooler is that?
@davidbeenjammin
@davidbeenjammin 2 ай бұрын
Why don’t you guys try and keep the test systems as comparable as possible to keep the numbers consistent?
@arch1107
@arch1107 2 ай бұрын
because they were showing the effects of more ram on both technologies, not the cpu handling those technologies, in case you didnt got it, go for 32 gbs, on ddr4 or ddr5.
@davidbeenjammin
@davidbeenjammin 2 ай бұрын
@@arch1107 Right but using different GPUs means variances in VRAM and performance. Who's to say if you paired the 16GB of DDR4 with a 4090 that it wouldn't perform just as well as 32 or 64. Point being eliminate the bottlenecks so that the only variable is the RAM and not the other components. Perhaps doing this with an Intel CPU would have worked better as well as they support both DDR4 and DDR5.
@arch1107
@arch1107 2 ай бұрын
@@davidbeenjammin the point is how bad is less ram, how good is more ram we are not living in a age where motherboards support both, that era passed accept the information shared or go make a video about ddr3 vs ddr4 on a intel cpu on the worst pos mobo
@davidbeenjammin
@davidbeenjammin 2 ай бұрын
@@arch1107I can tell we’re not gonna see eye to eye on this so this will be my last post here and then we can move on. Never said the mobos supported both, I said the CPUs did. Get a Z790 DDR4 board and a Z790 DDR5 board, latest microcode, keep all the other components identical and as high end as you can get.
@uscrunch
@uscrunch 10 күн бұрын
I had 16gb with a 2060 would stream and play games worked perfect
@bluecollarwatches7048
@bluecollarwatches7048 2 ай бұрын
I have 32g ddr5 and my system has never come close to using it, but hey it came with my microcenter bundle.
@jasonwestwood7092
@jasonwestwood7092 12 күн бұрын
TRY Starcitizen heavy modded games will use more than 32Gb and Microsoft Flight Simulator in some scenes 36 to 37Gb but that's rare and at 4K Maximum settings.
@VzTecYT
@VzTecYT Ай бұрын
In these days in age if you plan to play stuff like CSGO, 16gb is required but 32gb is also always good but if you use 8gb don't plan on playing any top titles
@JackOKingVR
@JackOKingVR 14 күн бұрын
If my pc has 16GB can I get a 32GB kit and use them together?
@johnchristianson515
@johnchristianson515 7 күн бұрын
My gaming laptop has 32 and my new gaming tower that I am slowly sourcing parts for will be 64
@yudi8204
@yudi8204 2 ай бұрын
(2025) Yeah, I definitely trust a guy who deliberately type a wrong year in his video's title.
@Jeff.78
@Jeff.78 2 ай бұрын
Considering the year is nearly over and it's a relevant question going forward, I doubt it was a typo. Even if it was, nobody else has their knickers in a twist.
@Griz_827
@Griz_827 10 күн бұрын
yall are testing ram but use a 7700xt which is 30+ percent faster than a 4060 which also makes a difference in fps so im not understanding your test results
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